1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two holiday edition, 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: President's Day. I hope all of you are having a 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: fantastic start to your weeks, especially if you got to 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: use this day as a vacation day. We are down 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: in Palm Beach tomorrow we will be live from Mara 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Lago with President Trump right off the top of the show, 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: and I guarantee you one of the things that we're 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: going to be talking about him with is everything going 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: on in Canada right now and Buck, throughout the entirety 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: of the weekend, the amount of force brought to bear 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: on truly peaceful protesters who were actually not creating any 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: substantial threat to anyone was off the charts. And there's 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: a couple of things that to me are terribly frustrating 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: and also create a great deal of fear going forward. 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: And that is, first of all, they have seized so 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: many different bank accounts, millions of dollars in bank accounts 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: based on people donating to the Canadian Trucker protest. This 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: is an unprecedented overreach of power that has been embarked 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: upon by Trudeau under his emergency powers acts that he undertook. 21 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: And the second part of this is Trudeau had two 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: options to me buck really two options here at its essence, 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: he could do what a lot of democratic governors have done, 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: look at the data coming out on COVID and make 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: a decision to eliminate masks and vaccine mandates and claim victory, 26 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: even though many of us out there who have been 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: watching this data know that it didn't actually occur, that 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: all of these restrictions led to COVID disappearing. Okay, So 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: that in and of itself was one option, and that's 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: the option that honestly, he is kind of a rational option, 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: even if you don't want to admit you were wrong. 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: He chose the other option rather than relent and start 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: to dial back all sorts of issues in Canada and 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: by the way, United Kingdom, Boris Johnson is coming out 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: in the near future here and effectively announcing all COVID 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: restrictions are over, even though, by the way, ninety five 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: year old Queen who of course wish Well is evidently 38 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: doing fine with COVID in England right now, handling light duties, yes, 39 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: still actually working even while she has COVID and the 40 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: other option he had so he could have been rational. 41 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: The other option was crush this protest like a totalitarian dictator, 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: and he took the second option here, and he's even now, 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: I believe we have audio of this buck even now, 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: he's not saying it's over. They're going to treat these 45 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: protesters like it's January sixth and follow them to the 46 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: ends of the earth. Listen to this. As I said, 47 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: the Emergencies Act is not something to undertake lightly, and 48 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: it's something that needs to be momentary, temporary, and proportional. 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: That's why every single day I'm receiving briefings and we 50 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: are reflecting on how much longer the Emergencies Act needs 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: to be in place. We don't want to keep it 52 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: in place a single day longer than necessary. But even 53 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: though the blockheads are lifted across border openings right now, 54 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: even though things seem to be resolving very well in Ottawa, 55 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: this state of emergency is not over. There continues to 56 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: be real concerns about the coming days. But we will 57 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: continue to evaluate every single day whether or not it 58 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: is time and we are able to lift this state 59 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: of emergency. He is the absolute worst, to start with, that. 60 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can make a very strong 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: case that he's the worst politician in North America right now. 62 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: And I mean that based on his character and on 63 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: what has happened as a result of his decision, making 64 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: any his or her, any any politician across North America. 65 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: He's an absolute joke to anybody who thinks that Canada 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: is a place that values liberty and freedom at any level. 67 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau has really made that look like a farce. 68 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Beyond that, though, Clay, when you see what's happened here, 69 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: there are far reaching implications of this kind of decision. 70 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: You have seen the mobilization of a Western democracy and 71 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: really really our closest ally, I mean almost an adjunct state, 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: America junior, whatever you want to call it, America's top half. Yea, Yeah, 73 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: you have seen a mobilization of what is effectively either 74 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: counter you could say, counterinsurgency or counter insurrection powers of 75 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: the state to suppress a peaceful political protest. Now, people 76 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: will remember that it wasn't long ago that there were 77 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: actual in this country, not really in Canada so much, 78 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: but in this country there were riots, ongoing riots causing disorder, destruction. 79 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: Did they try to burn down a church across from 80 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: the White House, right, I mean, we remember what was 81 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: going on. They're pulling down statues, they were destroying neighborhoods, 82 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: burning down police stations, trying to burn down a federal 83 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: courthouse in Portland. And the apparatus of the left was 84 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: furious with the notion, furious with the notion that Trump 85 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: was sending in any additional law enforcement resources, writing that 86 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: was thuggery. Those were you know, jackbooted fascions going into 87 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Portland or DC or wherever. And now look what Trudeau 88 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: has done, I mean, clay, They sent guys in full on, 89 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: head to toe tactical gear with long guns to pull 90 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: guys out of trucks who had spent the last few 91 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: days handing out you know, sandwich and playing ice hockey 92 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: in the streets and saying can we go back to 93 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: our normal lives. The mobilization of a state of emergency 94 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: in Canada to break a peaceful protest that is a 95 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: righteous protest with demands that should be clear to everybody 96 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: as the way forward is something that I think we're gonna, unfortunately, 97 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: be dealing with the ramifications up for a long time. 98 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: You think they're only going to use it against the truckers. 99 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Anytime now there's a protest that seems to come from 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: the right, they may decide, oh, this is look at 101 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: the stuff they said, Neo Nazis, trumpist insurrection. They lied 102 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: about the movement in order to justify what they did 103 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: against the movement. It is. I don't want to say 104 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: that America did well with COVID, because we certainly didn't. 105 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: But if you look at New Zealand, and you look 106 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: at Australia, and you look at Canada, three countries that 107 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: I think most Americans pre COVID would have characterized as 108 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: relatively easygoing, relatively moderate in the politics and the perspectives 109 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: that they adopt, they all three lost their mind. Frankly, 110 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: in a way we did not, and I think to 111 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: a large extent that is because of our federalism, because 112 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: we had governors, in particular Rhonda Santists, who were willing 113 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: to look at the data and take risks. And while 114 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: that might have upset the Blue check brigade out there, 115 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: what it did was it encouraged the other side of 116 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: the country, and so we had less of a pervasive 117 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: anger in the United States compared to I think what 118 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: happened in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. They kind of 119 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: leavened it by based on federalism. This is why the discussion. 120 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: You're totally right. I think you said this a couple 121 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I've shared this with other folks too, 122 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: attributing it to you, of course, but that where was 123 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: the American trucker protests for the most part, Well, the 124 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: truckers who live in Texas, and the truckers who live 125 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: in Tennessee, Florida, and the Dakotas and you know, Montana 126 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: and Wyoming, they're like, we're kind of okay, you know, 127 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, they haven't been put through the same degree 128 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: of what you've seen in Canada. And I mean, as 129 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: for those other states you mentioned, really the what we 130 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: used to call the Anglo sphere, although people don't just 131 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: for the English speaking nature of it, the US, Canada, 132 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: New Zealand, Australia, Great Britain, there was a madness that 133 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: covid unleashed, a really a mass hysteria, and I do 134 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: think that it was very much it correlated with the 135 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: degree of socialism in those countries we had thought of 136 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: socialists in the past. Is oh, they just want free 137 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: healthcare and well, but there's also a mentality. Socialists believe 138 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: in effectively creating a religion of the state, and that 139 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: if you just give them enough authority and power, they 140 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: will create a de facto utopia. And that means that 141 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: also in the event of an emergency, the same people 142 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: that believe the government can create perfection think the government 143 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: is in a perfect position to deal with a you know, 144 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: deal with a threat like this, but you just have 145 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: to give it all the authority that it wants. So 146 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I think that's why you saw countries, you know, I 147 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: do like Australia as East Germany with Koalas, and that 148 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: started to catch on a little bit because I think 149 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: it's true. You saw people recognizing that the socialist mindset 150 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: in times of dress lends itself. All of a sudden, 151 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: the benevolent authoritarianism of a big government socialist state doesn't 152 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: feel so benevolent anymore. And what's interesting is England today 153 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: is effectively ending all restrictions. Australia has now opened back 154 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: up for tourists. New Zealand is acknowledging that zero COVID 155 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: is no longer a reality. And I believe we were 156 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: talking about during commercial breaks, their COVID cases have now 157 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: surged twenty four thousand percent or something such as that, 158 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: when they stopped being able to isolate themselves and keep 159 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: everyone else from coming in the country. And even with 160 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Biden as a disastrous leader, I feel in many ways 161 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: as if you compare us to all of those other 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: countries that we would ordinarily have considered to be our 163 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: peer group, that things have gone better than we could 164 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: have hoped relative to places like Florida. By the way, 165 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: we got breaking news that's gonna be coming any moment 166 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: as we are talking to you. Vladimir Putin is going 167 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: to be making an announcement about Ukraine on Russian television, 168 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and reports are we're looking at Fox News right now 169 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: that Putin is going to declare Eastern Ukraine independent exactly 170 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: what we just talked about Johnson's and they're gonna say 171 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: the separatist regions are now effectively part of Russia. They're 172 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna dare the Ukrainian government to do anything. This is analysis, 173 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: that's not the breaking news, But we're an allowed you 174 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: know what. We'll come back into this in a second 175 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: because we're gonna need more time on it. But the 176 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: headline right now up on Fox News Putin to declare 177 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: Eastern Ukraine independent is exactly what we were expecting here 178 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: we talked about in the last hour of the show. 179 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: We'll bring you up to speed on that one. But 180 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, if Putin's supposed to make 181 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: an announcement at any moment, and that is also that 182 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: is also supposed to be reported on shortly. Here he's 183 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: not saying it's pieces. He's not saying it's piece in 184 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: our time, friends, that's for sure. We'll talk more about 185 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: this in a second. 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The declaration 221 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: here is that they are independent and the assumption that 222 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: goes along with this would be and now effectively part 223 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: of Russia. So in much the same way as there 224 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: was a referendum in Crimea to make it a part 225 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: of the Russian Federation, and then there was this in 226 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: this military incursion by Russia into this part of Ukraine 227 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen, they created a beachhead there for 228 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: what is now the official declaration of the independence of 229 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: these East Eastern Ukrainian breakaway state. Let's now look, it's 230 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: even the language you use here, you'll see it all 231 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: goes to the Russian Mazkarovka, the war through deception component 232 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: of this they want us to be talking about these 233 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: breakaway This is Russia seizing parts of Ukrainian territory effectively, 234 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: that's what's going on. According to Russian TV. Putin has 235 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: declared Eastern Ukraine independent, and he has also told his 236 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: plan to EU leaders. We don't have more details on 237 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: that yet. We will, but Clay, here's what I think 238 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: is happening right now. So we've told the headlines, and 239 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: now the next steps are, let's say they just leave 240 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: it at We'll call it the Dunbas Eastern Ukraine. If 241 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: they just have this now as part of Russia, the 242 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Russian military, the Russian military situation around Ukrainian borders is 243 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: such that they could still deal some kind of a 244 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: knockout blow to the Ukrainian military if they choose to 245 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: do so. So this may essentially be a provocation to 246 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: get some kind of response from the Ukrainian government, because 247 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: let's say Ukrainian military goes into dun Boss and says 248 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: these are not this is this doesn't fly. Then the 249 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Russians go in and say, you're attacking Russian speakers, you're not, 250 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're violating their sovereignty, and it just becomes 251 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: this big mess of lies. That's one possibility. The other 252 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: possibilities are, don't even wait for that kind of a 253 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: movement from the Ukrainian government, create a false flag inside 254 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: of and we're talking about the Russians. By the way, 255 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: they do do false flags, that's not this not conspiracy stuff. 256 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: They've done false flags in checking how they do false flags. 257 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: But Clay, I think that's another possibility where they'll act 258 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: like they are just waiting and they just want these regions, 259 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: and then if there's some kind of a conflagration, they say, oh, 260 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: they forced our hands. And the question that will be 261 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: out there is how long does this form? If if 262 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Ukraine is going to accede in some way to the 263 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: loss of this territory and they have been fighting there 264 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: since like twenty fourteen, right, so, I mean this has 265 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: been a tumultuous region to say the least already. To 266 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: what extent does this end this story? How long does 267 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: this will he or won't he element of the Ukrainian 268 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: invasion continue in the wake of this. If again Putin 269 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: is going to declare Eastern Ukraine independent, theoretically, then all 270 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: of Eastern Ukraine becomes a part of Russia. If that occurs, 271 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: are we talking about this border region continuing to be 272 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: on tenter hooks for years to come, or does this 273 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: dial back the tension here and lead to a resolution 274 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: for both sides in some form or fashion. Think about 275 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: what we would see. Let's assume that it stops more 276 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: or less here, and that the dun Boss or something 277 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: roughly analogous to the dun Boss, which is really the 278 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: eastern and eastern region of Ukraine, obviously all along the 279 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Russian border Clay. They could just say. Putin could say 280 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: this is it, let's leave it here. And what he 281 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: would have is essentially in the eyes of not just 282 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Putin the Kremlin and the people support him from within 283 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: the military complex there, but from his supporters inside of Russia, 284 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: he will have stared down NATO and taken a chunk 285 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: of lost territory without really any I mean, there's been 286 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: some shelling and minor no significant loss of life or material. 287 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: He will just have said I am Putin, hear me, 288 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, hear me or else and taken off a 289 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: big chunk of Ukraine without having to actually even go 290 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: to war. That I think where we are right now, 291 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: is he will Is that actually sufficient? Well? I think 292 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: And for a lot of people out there, how would 293 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: the Biden administration respond to this? They probably would let 294 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Russia in theory take this small region of Eastern Ukraine 295 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: and then hope that this thing just goes away. Yeah, 296 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean right, I mean because the last thing they 297 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: want is this to linger. They'll put maybe they'll put 298 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: some sanctions on it and things like that. It doesn't 299 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: remind me for those who remember the great Tom Clancy 300 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: in Debt of Honor, if I recall, the whole point 301 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: is that the Japanese and an imperial Japanese resurgent right 302 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: wing Japanese military strike to take back lost territory from 303 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: World War Two, and their whole thing is where they're 304 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: going to take it so fast, Clay that why fight 305 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: over it once it's been taken? And it reminds me 306 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: a little bit what's going on here? Why why it's 307 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: already done? Guys? Why fight over this with us? That's 308 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: the idea of that. 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Welcome 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: back into the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Thanks 328 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: for being with us here. Putin is speaking right now 329 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: on Ukraine. They're calling attentions of what Fox News here 330 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: is the situation. Just to bring everybody up to speed 331 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: as we are seeing this in real time too. Putin 332 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: is talking right now about the area of eastern Ukraine 333 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: that has been the site of Russian incursion, invasion, and 334 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: the creation of two separatists non recognized separatists republics of 335 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Luhansk and Donets. This area in the eastern part of Ukraine, 336 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: the far eastern part of Ukraine is known as the Dunbas. 337 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: And right now we're hearing from Vladimir Putin, as it 338 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: seems he is declaring independence of these regions. Now, this 339 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: is a much lesser right now escalation than what was 340 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: perhaps thought would be happening if we had the opening 341 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: of hostilities, given the size of the Russian military force 342 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: a raid along Ukraine's borders. That doesn't mean that this 343 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: won't escalate very rapidly, though, What will the Ukrainian government 344 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: do in response? Clay, there is a very real chance, 345 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: as we see this unfolding, that Putin essentially created a 346 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: situation where this will look like Remember there was all 347 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: this talk about by putting all of the soldiers, putting 348 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: all the military assets in place, maybe it was a 349 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: headfake to get concessions. Well, maybe he put them all 350 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: in place, because the head fake in a sense is 351 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: a massive invasion when the actual desire is to just 352 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: take this eastern portion, and it will seem to everybody like, well, 353 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: at least this didn't turn into open conflict and warfare 354 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: the way that we thought, so this may defang again, 355 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: this is we don't know yet, We don't know what 356 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: their future plans are. But as it stands right now, 357 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: this could be a move by Putin to out maneuver 358 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: and outplay the European and American response, because if it's 359 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: not open war, if it's just the declaration of this 360 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: official recognition, and the Ukrainian government doesn't move against them 361 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: and the Russians don't escalate, then this becomes a day 362 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: factor reality in the ground. They've been giving out Russian 363 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: passports in this region four weeks already, so they're creating 364 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: a reality on the ground of these are Russian speakers 365 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: and Russian citizens and we leave it there. That's what 366 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 1: could be happened. And to be fair, a lot of 367 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: these people might well prefer to be Russian right in 368 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the border region. I mean something like eighty five percent 369 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: consider themselves to be of Russian ethnic origin as opposed 370 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: to Ukrainian. And so if he has been selling the 371 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: idea of I'm going to take over the whole country 372 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: and provoking all of this, all of this fear that 373 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: this was going to spiral into something far larger, and 374 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: then ultimately this is the price to pay. I mean, really, 375 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: the question is how is Ukraine going to respond now? Right? 376 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Do they have any recourse here? Because I can't imagine 377 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: that they are very appreciative on having part of this 378 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: part of their territory just taken away. And the question 379 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: is is this going to be enough or is this 380 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: a prelude to something more significant going forward? But again, 381 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: as we are as we are watching, will eventually have 382 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: official translation of this. But Putin has been declaring independence 383 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: for parts of Ukraine, and we need to check and see. 384 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to check buck is 385 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: what is the reaction of the stock market in general, 386 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: because initially on reports of this potentially occurring, the obviously 387 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: the stock market is closed today for President's Day, I believe, 388 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: but the futures on the stock market had declined pretty 389 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: precipitously in the last hour or so as people became 390 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: aware of what might be taking place. So there is 391 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: something of a playbook for this. The Russians have run 392 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: this before at the very end of the Bush administration. 393 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: So you're going back to now, I think what was 394 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: in August two thousand and eight. You had this escalation 395 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: that in a region of Georgia, the country of Georgia 396 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: where you had breakaway republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, 397 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: and the Russians did it was very similar. There were 398 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: some shelling and some we need to step in here 399 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: to protect the Russian speakers in the region. And you 400 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: had these little breakaway republics. And keep in mind that 401 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: the Russians effectively got their way and got away with this. 402 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: This is what actually ended up. This is this was 403 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: from their perspective of success. So it is not really 404 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: surprising that there is a similar campaign going on here 405 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: or a similar play, it seems being made. As Putin 406 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: is officially declaring now, as he said, as Fox is 407 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: translating this, uh, you know the western news outlets of 408 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: translating this in real time. Putin has declared and he 409 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: says that Ukraine has always been a part of Russia, 410 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: that these eastern regions are now independent, Lohanska, Donetsk, Fastening Clay. 411 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: There there has been some reporting on in the past 412 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: who who were some of the top officials of these 413 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: non recognized now recognized by Vladimir Putin. Of course breakaway republics, 414 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: there was actually a dog catcher and a former mall 415 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: Santa that were running the governments in essence or at 416 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: the very top of the governments of these breakaway republics. 417 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: The point here being the Russians are running them. They 418 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: just found local people to pretend to be the the 419 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: Russian puppets, if you will, and try to get all 420 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: this set up for what we're seeing right now. Do 421 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: you believe this lessons or increases tension going forward based 422 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: on this news happening literally as we are talking at 423 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: this moment, Is it your indication of because I'm looking 424 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: at the stock market. The stock market is down around 425 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: two percent, the nasdak is, the DAO is down a 426 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: little bit over a percent. Obviously that's not those aren't 427 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: monster moves, but it suggests discomfort with what's going on. 428 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: So you can look at what did we do in 429 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: response to Crimea, What are we do in response to 430 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: Abkhazia and South Ossetia, What are we do in response 431 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: to the initial incurasion in Eastern Ukraine? Some sanctions, but 432 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: did we do? Was there? When I say we By 433 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: the way, let's prefer to I don't just me in America, 434 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean in NATO, Europe, the West, not a whole 435 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: lot clay. If it stops here, If it stops here, yeah, 436 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: they'll be sanctions, they'll be diplomatic wrangling. But Putin gets 437 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: this part of Ukraine back for the Russian Federation without 438 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: actually having to fight, which is a huge win for him. 439 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: So what are what are the responses going to be here? 440 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: Diplomatic and sanctions? That's it. Obviously, no one's suggesting right 441 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: now in this country NATO is going to go in 442 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: and do anything about these breakaway republics. If they leave 443 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: it here, Putin might walk away with a win. But 444 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: then the question is how long lasting? How long is 445 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 1: that last? What's the next stop? Is he? You know, 446 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: is the alligator gonna want to bite off more of 447 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: Ukraine next? That's the problem of the Russian bear as 448 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: the case may be that, that's the question that will 449 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: be faced with. But if he if it stops right here, man, 450 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: this might be Putin out playing as Western counterparts and 451 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: getting his way like a cunning thug. We'll have to see. 452 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: We got Rand Paul Senator Rampaul joining us here in 453 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: a few minutes. We'll ask him about this, by the way, 454 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: because Centat Rampaul is always a sound mind on foreign 455 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: policy matters. What's going on in Ukraine as he sees it, 456 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: plus the CDC and FAUCI, you know that's gonna be fun. 457 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Stick around for it. Still going strong here, third hour 458 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, and we 459 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: have the big breaking news from on the other side 460 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: of the world. Tier Ukraine now has two breakaway republics 461 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: that Russia is recognizing as independent. So the situation they're 462 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: continuing to heat up. We've also got our friend Senator 463 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: Rand Paul of Kentucky with us now to talk about 464 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: this as well as COVID, the CDC and all the 465 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: rest of it. Senator Paul, we always appreciate you making 466 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: time for us. Thanks for having guys. Let's just start 467 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: with what do you think happens now in Ukraine. We 468 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: just had putin giving his address. He said Ukraine is 469 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: historically part of Russia. He is recognizing these self declared 470 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: independent regions of effectively the dawn Bass area of East 471 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: Ukraine as well independent really being a part of Russia 472 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: in this context, So what do you think happens here, 473 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: Senator Paul, what do you see going on? Yeah, I 474 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: think it's the same recipe as what they did in Georgia. 475 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: If they quickly move in and occupy that part of Ukraine, 476 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: it's difficult probably to conceive of anybody dislodging them. I 477 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: think the bitterness and the civil war that will ensue, 478 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: though won't end quickly. I think Ukraine is more formidable 479 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: than than Georgia. They may not be able to dislodge 480 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: the Russians, but I think there's going to be more 481 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: war than than many people would like to see. The 482 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: only people that really economically have the ability to punish 483 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: poodin as Europe. And the question is whether not Germany 484 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: will actually um you know, actually make make their resolve known. 485 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, they said they would do they would not 486 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: let them use natural gas as a weapon, that they 487 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: would They weren't explicit about turning off in Orange Stream too. 488 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: But we'll see what they do if they do very little. 489 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: I think it's just in pudent morm Senator, that's obviously 490 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: breaking right now, major story with Ukraine. But I'm sure 491 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: you read The New York Times had a story that 492 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of attention finally getting around to 493 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: covering the fact that the CDC is not releasing all 494 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: of the data that they have relating to the COVID vaccine, 495 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: relating to COVID overall. I'm sure you've read that piece. 496 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: What was your reaction to it? What can we do 497 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: to hold the CDC more accountable in terms of sharing 498 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: this information which is so necessary to allow us to 499 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: have the best possible public policy. You know, I would 500 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: describe it as dishonesty. They have a conclusion they've come to, 501 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: and it's universal vaccination, and so they don't want to 502 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: have anything that contradicts the narrative. And really that's dishonesty, 503 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: that's not science, That truly is dishonesty. So part of 504 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: the things have been withholding is that the group eighteen 505 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: year olds to forty nine year olds, basically a booster 506 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to help them at all, That they're fine 507 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: without a booster. I think this is also true under 508 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: eighteen as well. But they just want universal vaccination. They 509 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: don't want it two times, they want it three or 510 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: four or five times, and bigonolic. The facts don't matter, 511 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: and if the facts getting the way of what they 512 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: want done. What their policy prescription is, they'll hide the facts. 513 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: This is the the same that's true with previously infected people. 514 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: So I'm unvaccinated but previously infected. They finally release something 515 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: about three weeks ago that says that the chances of 516 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: me going to the hospital are fifty five times less 517 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: than someone who hasn't had the disease, but also two 518 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: and a half times less than someone who's been vaccinated 519 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: but hasn't had the disease. So they've been dishonest about 520 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: previous infections. They're being dishonest about boosters, and I think 521 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: it leads to more hesitancy. You wonder why some people 522 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: don't trust the government and think the vaccine might do 523 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: all these bad things to them. It's because the government 524 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: isn't honest, so they distrust the government even more because 525 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: of this dishonesty. It's being a Senator Rand Paul of 526 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: Kentucky and Senator that's just a follow up to what 527 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: you're discussing there with the data, the numbers. When it 528 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: comes to COVID natural immunity, the protection that is given 529 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: or not really given to those who are at low 530 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: risk because it's so low that the protection they have 531 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: is so low that it wouldn't even statistically show up. 532 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: It seems now that we're at a place that the 533 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: federal government under the Biden administration, as well as many 534 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: state governments, have fired thousands of people, including medical personnel, 535 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: including members of the military, law enforcement officers, from their 536 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: jobs when there was no scientific basis for those firings. 537 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: As in those individuals in many cases, if they had 538 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: natural immunity, would have been safe or safer to be 539 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: around than the vaccinated. And in other cases they were 540 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: at low risk and therefore no different in terms of 541 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: the risk they post the people around them because of 542 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: their age. I mean, is it fair to say that 543 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: these people were fired for no actual scientific reason, but 544 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: for policy and political reasons without question? And see I 545 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: told the secure team protecting President Trump early on that 546 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: what they should do is put people around him. This 547 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: was before the vaccine was available. I said, put people 548 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: around him who've already recovered from the disease. Then, yet, 549 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: do you have a barrier to the disease. They'll be 550 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: the best protection you can have. The same with hospitals 551 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: and nurses that they've already had the disease. They're actually 552 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: better than someone who's been vaccinated. And to show you 553 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: how grotesque this is. In the recent omicron we had 554 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: so many doctors and nurses sick. They were sending them 555 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: back to work while they were still shedding the virus 556 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: and just saying, oh, wear a mask. Meanwhile, they had 557 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: fired people who had immunity, who weren't getting sick again, 558 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: who could have been helping in this instance. But it's 559 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: really about this impulse to authoritarianism, and it's in the 560 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: medical establishment as well as the political establishment. But it's awful. 561 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean nurses every day around Kentucky and doctors who've 562 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: been let go from their jobs even though they've already 563 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: had COVID because they didn't think it was wise to 564 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: get vaccinated. Yeah, Senator Paul, what should happen in your 565 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: mind going forward? At this point? We know we got 566 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: to stay of the Union. On March first, Bucket Eye 567 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: are down in Florida right now, we continued the ridiculousness 568 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: of having to put the kabuki theater masks on we 569 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: get on airplanes. Let me just ask you that directly, 570 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: how do we end masking in both schools and airplanes 571 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: as such a huge signifier of a lack of normalcy 572 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: in our country. I know some kids are able to 573 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: some kids are still not, and also do away with 574 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: this absurd mandate for airports as well. First of all, 575 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: realize the airlines lie to you every time you get 576 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: on the plane. They get on the loudspeaker and they 577 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: say this is mandated by federal law. That is not true. 578 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Laws are passed by legislatures and signed by the president. 579 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: The mask mandate came from the CDC, and the CDC 580 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: has no power to tell you to wear a mask 581 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: on a plane. They do not have that power. They 582 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: were never given that power. The CDC also was the 583 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: organization that said you don't have to pay your rent 584 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: or your car payment if COVID's bothering you, and the 585 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: courts have struck that down. So for the airline to 586 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: say that, oh, this is a federal law, it's not 587 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: a federal law. But I am putting forward because it's 588 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: a regulation that was put forward by the CDC. When 589 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I get back, not this week, but next week, I'm 590 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: going to force a vote on overturning that regulation by 591 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: the CDC. It's a privileged vote, so it will happen. 592 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: I think we'll get every Republican to vote for it. 593 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: The question is, is one of the Democrats gonna you 594 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: realize how much the public hates these mandates and also 595 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: doesn't believe that the mask work. Senator Paul, is it 596 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: possible to reform the health bureaucracy at the federal level, 597 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: at least in this country, so that we wouldn't see 598 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: something like this again? I mean, what is your desire 599 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: going forward as a as a policymaker as was a legislator. 600 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: I should say both to actually deal with the fact 601 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: that the CDC has lost a lot and should have 602 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: lost a lot of people's confidence over the course of 603 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: this pandemic for what seemed like obvious political reason. Yeah, 604 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: it's not just the CDC, it's it's infiltrated that all 605 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: of the group think of hospitals and universities. And the 606 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: most important things your listeners can do is if your 607 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: loved one gets sick, don't just blindly go in there 608 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: and say, oh, do whatever you think is best. Ask 609 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: the doctor questions, ask the doctor for alternatives, discuss the alternatives, 610 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: read up on it yourself, because they're not being honest 611 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: with us. And then the doctors are basing this on 612 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: the information they're getting from the CDC. The one thing 613 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: that Fauci could have said that would have saved tens 614 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: of thousands of lives, and he's never said, this is 615 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: the monoclonel antibodies work, but you have to get in soon. 616 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: He's too busy with his head stuck in the sand, saying, Oh, 617 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: everybody's going to be vaccinated. We got to grab your 618 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: newborn and vaccinated before they'll leave the hospital, instead of saying, look, 619 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: you might get sick if you've not been vaccinated. You're 620 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: probably a little bit less likely to go to the 621 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: hospital if you've been vaccinated. But if you get sick 622 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: with either one of them, you have to be treated 623 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: in the first several days as you're getting sicker. If 624 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: you're high risk either through age or weight or other diseases. 625 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: I never hear that. Fine. The only person that really 626 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: prioritized this was a few Republican governors, namely Ron de 627 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: santist down on board. It probably saved thousands of people's 628 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: lives by making monoclon alantibodies very available. Senor Paul, what 629 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: do you expect you just mentioned doctor Fauci. We've been 630 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: arguing on this show and I want to reiterate it 631 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: as well. You need to give the Democrats a real 632 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: whipping and hold them responsible in the House and the 633 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Senate in the midterms coming up for what they have 634 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: done and the failures they have implemented. But what do 635 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: you expect to see from doctor Fauci as we get 636 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: closer to the spring summer? Do you expect him to retire? 637 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to sit around and allow 638 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: himself to remain a government employee With the House potentially 639 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: and the Senate flipping back to Republican control. What's his 640 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: game plan here? I don't know for certain, but I 641 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: can't imagine if he'll stay through the election because the 642 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: right on the wall that I believe Republicans will take 643 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: either the House or the Senate or both. And I've 644 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: already pledged that if I'm chairman of a committee after November, 645 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: I will use every resource and leave no stone unturned 646 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: to investigate where this virus came from. We'll interview the 647 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: scientists who tried to cover it up. That includes Fauci, 648 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: a lot of his colleagues. The email trails that are 649 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: all redacted, you know, we're going to get to it. 650 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: We will see every one of those emails, and we're 651 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: going to see all the words, not the redacted for him. 652 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: We're going to see what went on and why they 653 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: chose to cover it up. Some of it we already know. 654 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: Fauci and Collins went back and forth saying, this will 655 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: damage science, and you know we are science, and it'll 656 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: damage government, and it'll damage people's belief in that government 657 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: is doing the right thing. So they basically told us 658 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: it didn't come from the lab and they had to 659 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: come from nature because they didn't want to damage who China. 660 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: The didn't want to hurt the feelings of the Chinese scientists, 661 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: and they didn't want us to know that they'd been 662 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: funding this research in China. Senator m All of Kentucky. Senator, 663 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: we always appreciate you, Sarah, thanks for being with us. 664 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, world events far beyond your control have a 665 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: way of affecting our stock market and your savings plan. 666 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: Just look today, market down a bunch. 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Welcome back 690 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Tomorrow we will be 691 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: with forty five himself, President Donald Trump from Mara Lago. 692 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: Today we are in Palm Beach doing the show President's Day. 693 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are out and about. 694 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: I was kind of blown away by how many people 695 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: all over this area. Kind of makes sense. I guess 696 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: the weather's perfect down here, and so many have used 697 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: President's Day as an excuse to get away for a 698 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: few days. But I mean it was crowded, lots of 699 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: activity down here. I'd never really notice President's Day as 700 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: being particularly that buoyant where I live up in Nashville, 701 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: but it was super busy down here and remain so 702 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: that should be awesome. Tomorrow President Trump will be with 703 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: us right off the start of the program, so right 704 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: at noon eastern nine am on the West Coast, make 705 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: sure that you are dialed in and hanging out with 706 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: us to be able to hear that conversation. But we 707 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: went to break talking about the New York Times story 708 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: on CDC data that's not being released. And I saw 709 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: this over the weekend and absolutely loved it. So many parents, 710 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: moms and dads, but particularly moms, have been willing to 711 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: speak out against all of these mask mandates, which has 712 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: become sort of the cultural flashpoint surrounding COVID more so 713 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: than anything else, because if you can remove masks from schools, 714 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: every other restriction, it seems, crumbles around it. And this 715 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: was Montgomery County, Virginia. A school board member goes into 716 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: a fit when a mom says, hey, we need to 717 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: do away with masks here in schools. And oh, by 718 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: the way, I've got pictures. I got receipts of school 719 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: board members who have been caught out in public without 720 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: wearing masks. This is what it sounded like in Montgomery County, Virginia. 721 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: Mom was ready miscass. You also yelled at me the 722 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: last time I was here for taking off my mask. 723 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: But here's a picture of you right here on Facebook 724 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: with a crowd of people. That's it, with no mask on. 725 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: This is my time, and I don't know you. Here's 726 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: another picture though, with you with a new mask on. 727 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, miss Vaught. You are done. If you are 728 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: going to sit there and disparage a member of our 729 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: school board, then you can sit down. Can we have 730 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: a police officer please? He should be able to say 731 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: her piece. I've had to listen to people come and 732 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: criticize me. People came here and they talked about your 733 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: mask to your face. They showed pictures of your family. Yeah, 734 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: they did work. That's my family. That is all been fine. 735 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: Do you think about her? I am not our family. 736 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm done. I think this is fanta amazing. Is this 737 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: is the best. First of all, you're seeing right away 738 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: from the school board member, the tyrannical, fauciite impulse with 739 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: you be quiet, you're let's get the police in here. 740 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: This is over masking, right, I mean, this is over 741 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: such a It's a public forum. It's not like this 742 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: woman just stormed. If you watch the video she's talking 743 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: for her two or three minute windows show up in 744 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: this woman's living room or something. She's not trespassing, she's speaking, 745 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: but the school board member obviously doesn't like it. But 746 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: mask hypocrisy. Look, one of the things that the Democrats 747 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: did very early on is they really embraced the whole 748 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: notion of wearing the mask as a virtue signal. Right, 749 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm a good person, I care about the community, and 750 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,479 Speaker 1: people can get addicted to that over the over time, 751 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: they can realize, oh, all I have to do is this, 752 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: and I'm one of the good smart It's like saying 753 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: I believe in climate change, like you're one of the 754 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: good smart Knights people. You've done nothing. But that's what 755 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: the masking was for a lot of people. And obviously 756 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: the school board member who does mask up a lot, 757 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: Clay is one of them. Oh, she was phenomenal And 758 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: if you want to watch that video, it's out. You 759 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: can find it at Clay Travis. But there have been 760 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: so many what I would call heroes, parents who have 761 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: been willing to stand up against this. And you saw 762 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: how quickly so many of these school board members fold 763 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: and or demand protection when their own hypocrisy has pointed 764 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: out to them. I mean, the school board member posted 765 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: these photos on Facebook. 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