1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that enough. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: No, I put too much in. 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 3: I didn't put me. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: I said this will help me a great deal. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 4: The lemons too much in their gem. Oh I'm gonna. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Have the gin because this is killing me. 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh God almighty, and welcome to No Dunk's probably a 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: part of the Athletic podcast Network. 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: It's April eighteenth, twenty twenty three. I'm your host, Tray Kirby, 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: and alongside me as a man who's wearing a V 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: neck T shirts. 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I decided I needed to tan my upper chest. 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: I actually sincerely grabbed the wrong T shirt from my 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: little cubby, and I decided after I was basically close 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: to my car. I'm like, I got no time to 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: come back. You guys know I'm late every day. 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: You just show up at on your own pace. V 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: neck Sometimes I must have reached it into the closet 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 2: from twenty twelve. I can't believe. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 4: Come on, come on, you're you're actually sort of wearing. 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: It's a button down but a camp collar, the V 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: neck of the button down shirt world. We've also got 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: the man making the magic happen wearing a hooded sweatshirt. 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 4: Test. 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I forgot my V neck I forgot today was 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 5: V neck day. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Do you get dressed in your driveway? Test like that? 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: I was close to my car, Yeah, I was, Yeah, 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: essentially quite honestly, pretty damn close right to. 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 5: The driveway, unplugged the car, put on your shirt, get 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: in the car. 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: No skeets today though, unfortunately, I believe he's cycling the 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: Tour de France today, Boston Marathon Monday, Tour de France 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. He's trying to knock out all of the 35 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: important endurance contests around the globe. 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: He should do it in a V neck the French 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: like VNX. 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that'd be pretty nice. Actually, you know, 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: chafing around, uh the clavicles, which could you know, it's 40 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: certainly a risk that you have to take. Hey, check 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: out no dunks dot com. I think we got to 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: drop a V neck after beach step in V neck cool, 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: very very cool. 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 4: No collars, No that's a collar. Just trying to think 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: what it's going to say on it. Just no ducks, yeah, sure, yeah. 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: No ducks. We like v NEX sometimes light schedule and 47 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: the NBA last night only two game two's for us 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: to peruse. But the NBA never disappoints. Still a lot 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: to talk about. So let's play some true or false 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: so we'll never guess how this one works. Give you 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: some infotask and we'll talk about whether it's true or 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: if perhaps it's false. Bean boys mount up, Aaron Fox 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: and Demonas Sabona score twenty four points a piece, while 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: the Warriors could not stop falling and turning the ball 55 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: over as the Kings light the beam once again to 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: take a two to zero lead over the defending champs. 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: True or false tasks, The Kings are sending the Warriors 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: home early. I think it's happening, Trey. It sure looks 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: like it. 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: What were the questions before this series started? Can the 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: Kings keep up defensively? And they have shown that they 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: want a guard, especially their guards Fox, Monk Herder and 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: Davion Mitchell. Those guys are getting out nearly to half 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: court on some possessions trade. They are turning over the Warriors. 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: They are just dedicated to the task. This isn't an accident. 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: They are ready to go and I think it's clear 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: after two games the Kings are just a really good 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: matchup for the Warriors. It's nice, it's a nice matchup 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: for them, considering the Warriors aren't all that big. That 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: helps with the King's lack of size and Sabonus being five. 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: The Kings want to run like the Warriors do, so 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: they are keeping up that track meet Kings. The Kings 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: are right there with them every single possession, and there's 74 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: a fair amount of questions. I think the Wars here 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: we could win this series. But I think the Draymond 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 4: Green ejection and potential potential suspension that we'll get to 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: that we're not gonna start with because we want to 78 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: talk about basketball, because this is what we do. The 79 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: basketball is more important. I think it's a bit of 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: a body blow to Steph. I think if you look 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: at it from a negative point of view, you could say, oh, 82 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: Steph from his perspective, he gets dray gets ejected. It's 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: got to feel like this is Game four of the 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen finals. Another punch to the nuts, Like that 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: was a punch the nuts Lebron, he gets suspended. Oh 86 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 4: that's got to hurt. Now. Steph was sort of smiling 87 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: as dre got ejected. Maybe that's we got this, you know, 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: And and the rest of the game, they nearly pulled 89 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: it out with their bench pointing up to the King's crab. 90 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: They were into it. They've done this before. So can 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: they win four or five for the first time under 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: Steve Kurt? Yeah they can. I think there's fair questions 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: on both sides, but they are holding up incredibly through 94 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: two games. A resilient bounce back for some bonus in 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: game two I think was really really really important to 96 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: show how good that he can be. But I think 97 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: it's also a question of how he will hold up 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 4: through a series. Not because physically he got his ribs 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 4: smacked multiple times and had to have X rays, but 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: this is just the first time he's ever had to 101 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: do this, sure as as a real lead guy. So 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: questions on both sides, But gotta feel good. I had 103 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: Warriors in seven. I think Kings and seven is totally reasonable. Now. 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it still feels like this could continue to be 105 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: a long series because even though it feels like the 106 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: underdog has stolen two games on the road, it is 107 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: the Kings protecting home court advantage. That's why you saw 108 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: the Warriors post game. We're still pretty confident saying that's 109 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: what the Kings are supposed to do. They're supposed to 110 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: win their two games at home, and the Warriors have 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: definitely been right there. So it's not out of the 112 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: realm of possibility that Golden State wins four out of 113 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: five to win this series. But in back to back games, 114 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: it's really stuck out to me that the Kings don't 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: look like the younger team, they don't look like the 116 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: inexperienced team. They look more poised in these fourth quarters. 117 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: A lot of that is Darren Fox. Another great one 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: from him last night in the fourth eleven points, five 119 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: of nine from the field, three rebounds, three assists, no turnovers. 120 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: He hit that huge three to go up six with 121 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: two minutes and fifteen seconds left. He basically outplayed Steph 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Curry in the fourth quarter. That's it super impressive. But 123 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: also the Kings are showing some incredible resilience. You saw 124 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: Klay Thompson hit back to back threes. It's a one 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 2: point lead for Sacramento just under four minutes to play, 126 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: and they go on a twelve five run to end 127 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: the game. Because they're playing defense, they're getting stops. Fox 128 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: is doing his thing, They're getting some great clutch plays 129 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: from Harrison Barnes hitting the glass drive into the rack 130 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: throwing down dunks. You're right, the defense was a concern 131 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: coming in that has not yet been a problem for 132 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: the Kings. They forced twenty two turnovers last night, five 133 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: each for Steph Curry and for Draymond. It's like Mike 134 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: Brown has locked in the secrets to the Steph and 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: Draymond two man game and said here's how you can 136 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: take it away. And it's actually working for the Kings. 137 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: And then the other question was they're going against a 138 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: dynasty team that's won four championships. How are they gonna 139 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: deal when? How are they going to deal with things 140 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: when it's a tense situation And the Kings are keeping 141 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: their heads and the Kings are able to stick to 142 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: what they want to do when it really comes down 143 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: to it, and the Warriors absolutely have not been able 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: to do that. So another awesome win for the Kings. 145 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: This was another incredible game. Hopefully this goes seven games 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: because they're incredibly fun to watch. But the Kings about 147 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: played the Warriors in two fourth quarters in the first 148 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: two games of this series, and that is super impressive. 149 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're getting it from everywhere. You mentioned a bunch 150 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: of names. They're the deeper team right now. They've got 151 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: the far better bench right now, and there's stars are 152 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: performing when you get Sabonus Bouncin back with twenty four 153 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: and nine like that, and obviously getting hit over and 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: over and over again. And to think that he flopped 155 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 4: at any point or was lying on the floor at 156 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: any point because he was milking it. Just you haven't 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: watched or heard about him playing with a broken thumb 158 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: basically all season long. This guy has been extremely tough, 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: and yeah, I was. I am just extremely impressed with 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: the way they come push nearly at half court, like 161 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: guys like Malik Monk. That block early in the fourth 162 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 4: quarter on the perimeter, that was a monster block, I think, right, Yeah, 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: it was quite a bit of hype. Yeah it was 164 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: Toyoto towards the end of the possession. But he's just 165 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: taken after Darren Fox, who's had those two steals early 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: set the tone within a minute. He had two steals 167 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 4: in the first half of the first quarter, and they 168 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: caused thirteen turnovers in that first half. Because they are 169 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: playing so ridiculously hard. I just didn't know that this existed. 170 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: They are literally so confident, yes, so much, so much 171 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: credit's got to be given to Mike Brown. He better 172 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: win Coach of the Year on Wednesday when they handed out. 173 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: Everybody in the King's Arena has got to get that 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: Mike Brown face tattoo that we showed. 175 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: You a smiling guy. 176 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 4: Smiley, Yeah, smiley, my Brown face. 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, great timing awards wise for the Kings 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: because clutch player, I think is going to be awarded tonight. 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: We've seen great clutch games from Darren Fox, and Mike 180 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Brown is going to win Coach of the Year, I 181 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: guess on Wednesday, that's when they're announcing that one. Yes, 182 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: And he looks like the coach of the year through 183 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: two games beating the Warriors because incredible performances, like you're 184 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: saying from Monk. We tabbed him versus Jordan Poole as 185 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: a swing matchup heading into this series. Thirty two from 186 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: Monk in game one, said yesterday, it's all right if 187 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: he doesn't have thirty two again game two, as long 188 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: as he's able to negate what Pool's doing. Monk went 189 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: for eighteen in this one. Three assists, had a really 190 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: great run just getting to the hoop, and he's looking 191 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 2: like more than just a three point shooter. Every time 192 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: he's on the court. He is a difference maker. Jordan Pool, 193 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: on the other hand, terrible game like he the last 194 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: minute of the third quarter really did it in for 195 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: Jordan Pool. The Warriors are on a run. It's now 196 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: a six point game. He has a brutal turnover on 197 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: a pass to the corner that went eight rows deep. 198 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: There was nobody to catch that pass. The Kings go down, 199 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: shoot a free throw, they come back. The Warriors do 200 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: heat check three from Jordan Pool. Not even close. So 201 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: he got benched for the fourth quarter. And then you 202 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: see him on the sideline celebrating with his shirt over 203 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: his head, smiling and putting us in Dick Nixon tricky 204 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: Dick fingers. Pretty weird stuff to see from a guy 205 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: who got benched in the fourth quarter and isn't doing 206 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: anything yet in this series. So major coming out party 207 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: from Malik Monk and Davion Mitchell was a game changer 208 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: last night. The defense was great, making Curry work off 209 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: the ball, pressuring Curry when he did have the ball, 210 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: but the shot making is what was able to keep 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: him on the court. Finished with fourteen points, went five 212 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: of ten from the Field hit two threes, including a 213 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: dagger with about a minute and seventeen left, put the 214 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: Kings up nine, and that was kind of the game. 215 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: This guy has crazy arc on his jumper. Man, it 216 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: goes like straight up and straight down. I don't know. 217 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: One of these McDaniels was talking about they needed a 218 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: forty seven percent angle to be a three point shooter 219 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: or something like that. Davion Mitchells is almost ninety. It 220 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: just goes like what, straight up, straight down, even on 221 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: his free throws. I thought he was really great, especially 222 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: in the second quarter. We had seven points, a couple steals, 223 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: hit a three then and Malik Monk in the second 224 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: quarter also eleven. They really swung the game, turned things 225 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: around in the second so great role player performances thus 226 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: far from the Kings in both games. Alex Lenn had 227 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: a nice run in this one as well. People are 228 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: talking about him being the best pick in the top 229 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: five of the twenty thirteen. 230 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 4: Sorry I'm not a star studded one. 231 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: But it was Monk and Lyles in game one. It 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: was Lenn, Mitchell and Monk in game two. Not to 233 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: mention Harrison Barnes making plays the Warriors from all of 234 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 2: their vets. They're not getting anything. They've got five guys 235 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: they can play. It almost feels like Curry's gonna have 236 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: to go forty eight minutes for them to have a chance. 237 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: But this has been quite a first two games for 238 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: the Kings. Now they got to go on the road 239 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: and do it, but they got to be feeling confident. 240 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: You remember last year's playoffs, there was some Jordan Poole 241 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: talk maybe he should be yanked from the rotation. Yeah, 242 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: I think you can bring that up now. But at 243 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: the same time, number one there isn't the support that 244 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: the Warriors feel like they had last year to even 245 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: think about that. But number two Pool did bounce back 246 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 4: last year, and did bounce back after all that that. 247 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: He didn't look really good against the Boston Celtics, who 248 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: had a bunch of great perimeter defenders to slow him 249 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 4: down and just too many scoring options on their perimeter 250 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: for him to stop. So this is a similar scenario. 251 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: It's odd to think that the Kings in those four 252 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: guards really that they're playing in Fox, Herder, Monk and 253 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 4: Davion Mitchell are anywhere close to the Boston Celtics perimeter guys. 254 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: But right now, they're absolutely ballun traded that the Davion 255 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: Mitchell minutes were so big, just stepping into his shots. 256 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: His first one was a free throw line jumper. It 257 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 4: went down, and then the confidence was there for him 258 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: to take threes. Too many performances from the Warriors really 259 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 4: to handle. They got Gary Payton, the second off the bench, 260 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: who was playing really well, and some talk about him 261 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: potentially entering the starting lineup for Game three amongst Warriors fans, 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: which it makes some sense. I don't think that the 263 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: Warriors make another change after inserting Andrew Wiggins into the 264 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: starting lineup for Game two, who I thought got better 265 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: as the game go on. He just started to realize 266 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: I can be an offensive player too. It was a slow, 267 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 4: slow climb for Wiggins, but he started to look good 268 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 4: out there. Twenty two points in thirty nine minutes. Now, 269 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: now the rebounds have to come, and that's the scary part. 270 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: Wiggins isn't quite himself and last year he was their 271 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: second most important player and he had to board real 272 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: hard for this team. And right now the Kings are 273 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: smashing them in that regard. I mean smashing a tough word. 274 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: They played it even but the big ones are going 275 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: to them. They get more, they had more offensive rebounds. 276 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: They won a game Trey, I think is the important 277 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: part here, where they shot fewer threes, made fewer threes. Yeah, 278 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: they won an ugly game. Yeah, Fox performed in the 279 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: fourth quarter, he got help. I thought the Harrison Barnes 280 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: eight points in that fourth quarter were so key, going 281 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: at Clay to dunks in the first quarter for Harrison 282 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: Barnes just going back like this, gotta feel so good. 283 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: You let me go after he won a championship and 284 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: now he's doing that. But that wasn't, you know, somewhat 285 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 4: of an ugly win. It it wasn't super pretty, It 286 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: wasn't it was the a ton of threes weren't falling. 287 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: They shot twenty three percent from three, and they won. 288 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: They won a gritty playoff game. And so it's hard 289 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: to even question who these dudes are anymore. It's we 290 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: always never want to say the dynasty is dead because 291 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 4: it's hard to predict when a dynasty is dead, and 292 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: you know, dead's a strong word, but these guys have 293 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: there's no reason to not believe in the Kings now. 294 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: And again, it's a pretty damn good matchup for them 295 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 4: if they're going to play this hard. 296 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. First time the Warriors have been down 297 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: two to zero with Steph curray in the playoffs. Incredible stuff. 298 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: You got anything else with regards to on court basketball. 299 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: We didn't even this game. We didn't even get to 300 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: Draymond yet. 301 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't even we haven't even got to Raymon. 302 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: We're talking specifically basketball. 303 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we can do that now. 304 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's time to talk wrestling because it ain't 305 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: the playoffs if there isn't some Draymond controversy. With seven 306 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: minutes left in the fourth quarter, Draymond and Demnta Sibonis 307 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: got tangled up after a rebound Bonus grabbed Draymond's ankle. 308 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: When Draymond turned to run up the court, Draymond freed 309 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: himself by hitting some Bonus with the seth freaking rollins 310 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: curb stomp to the chest. A skirmish ensued. Refs took 311 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: a look at things, gave the Bonus a technical for 312 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: the ankle grab, and they gave Draymond a flagrant too 313 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: for the stomp, which comes with it an automatic ejection. 314 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Draymond then cut a promo to the crowd basically screaming 315 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: at the King's crowd as they were as the referees 316 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: were reviewing everything. So the question tasked true or false 317 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: Draymond should be suspended for. 318 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: Game three False. I don't think he should be suspended 319 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: as bad as some of those angles are. When you 320 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: look at it in slow mo, it ain't a step. 321 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: It's a stomp. 322 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: He's step. 323 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: It's a stomp, I will say. At the same time, 324 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 4: though it's obviously initiated by dematas Bonus, he grabs his 325 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: ankle and from some angles you can say Draymond sort 326 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 4: of lost his balance. He said after the game. I'm 327 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: not that flexible, and he's grabbing his his one foot. 328 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 4: He's trying to get his balance, and so he comes 329 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: down on Sibonis, but he does come down on him hard. 330 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 4: I'm totally fine with the ejection. He doesn't get the 331 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt because he's Draymond Green. I think 332 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: that's totally fair, and I don't think Demanta Sabonis was 333 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: milking it at all. He's lying on the ground there, 334 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 4: and then when Curry ran into him at the two 335 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: minute mark, he was grabbing his ribs again, and then 336 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: he got the X rays after the game. So I'm 337 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: totally fine with the injection, but I don't think it 338 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: really warrants a suspatchion. And I'm being slightly selfish. I 339 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 4: do want to see I do want to see a 340 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: full warrior squad, but this is I do think that 341 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: there is a little gray area with with what happened. 342 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: I don't I do think he kind of lost his balance. 343 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: That's what it looked like. That's in live action, That's 344 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: what it like. 345 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: And then basically every replay I thought looked the complete opposite. 346 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: It looked like Draymond was doing Michael Flatley, Lord of 347 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: the Dance. The way he jumped up off Sabonas's chest 348 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: and like clicked his heels. That was a crazy part 349 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: of it, jump up and click your heels. To me, 350 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: I agree. I think it was handled right when it happened, 351 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: like Sabonis deserves a tech. He grabbed Draymond's ankle. You 352 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: can't grab an ankle fair enough. Draymond escalated it. He 353 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: stomped on Sabonas's chest. That's a flagrant too. Ejection is 354 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: the right call, But I kind of agree that he 355 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: won't be suspended because this reminded me a lot of 356 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: Matthew Delavandova locking up Taj Gibson's legs in the twenty 357 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: fifteen playoffs. Taj kicked Delavadova kind of in the butt cheeks. 358 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: I guess maybe the leg. He got a flagrant too, 359 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: and he was ejected. Nothing for DELI literally no penalty 360 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: for grabbing with the legs. So maybe that's the key 361 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: for Sabonis. But Taj was not suspended for I think 362 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: it was gonna be Game six of the Bulls Calves series. 363 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: The differences are back versus chest. It definitely looks worse 364 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: what Draymond did, stepping on some bonus's chest, also egging 365 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: on the crowd afterwards. I can't imagine goes over well 366 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: with the league office. And then, like you're saying, it's Draymond. 367 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: The guy's got a reputation and a track record now 368 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: of things happening in big moments and him pushing the 369 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: envelope because nobody wants to see a star suspended in 370 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: the playoffs, so I kind of don't think he will. 371 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: But it looked bad and the way he reacted to 372 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 2: it making it even a bigger deal. I can't imagine 373 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: that plays well. With the league office, but I think 374 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: he'll be there for Game three. 375 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the League office sitting there in the crowd with 376 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: Adam silver watch. He was there to watch it. It 377 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: is hilarious though. I do take your point about the 378 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: clicking his heels because on one side, you can say 379 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: he looks sort of off balance. I mean, he definitely 380 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: he definitely stepped and stomped on him, but also you 381 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: could say that he was almost dancerlike, like he almost 382 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: looked like he had flexibility because of he didn't have 383 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: flexibility because of the way he was able to leave 384 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: the scenario or you know, to to leave the skirmish. 385 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: That he was able to pop out and almost do 386 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: you know that uh somewhat of a splits in the 387 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: air to to run away. So that was wild. The 388 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: egging on the crowd was wild. But I think it 389 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: was even more surprising that when he was actually thrown 390 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: out of the game, he got the word from the 391 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 4: official and he just ran off into the tunnel. 392 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: He didn't say a thing. 393 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 4: To the crowd after he was after he heard it, yeah, 394 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 4: like the referee game whatever he said, and then he 395 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: was gone. And another weird thing, this is this is 396 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: super ridiculous. Mark Spears tweeted after the game he that 397 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: Draymond Green actually asked to have his ankle X rayd 398 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: what like like, so, so Green is sitting active procedure man, 399 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: Come on, So Green sitting in the locker room. He hears, 400 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 4: I guess that Sabonis is getting X rayed, and he says, 401 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: you know what, put it out there. Put it out 402 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: there that I want my ankle x ray because there's 403 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 4: absolutely no reason for his ankle to be X rayed. 404 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: And he is. He is angry that he got his 405 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: ankle grabbed in game one by Malik Monk. Sure, okay, whatever, 406 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: but there's no reason to have his ankle x rayed. 407 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll miss game three with a oh broken ankle. 408 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have actually actually what the results are. Yeah, 409 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 4: that's the funny part is that he requested an X ray, 410 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: according to Mark Spears, but there wasn't one administered by 411 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 4: all accounts, they said, no, you're fine, Yeah, you're fine, 412 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: but but put it out there. I mean, this had 413 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: to come from Draymond Green himself. Put it out there 414 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: that my ankle hurts too, Like, okay, there's obviously that's 415 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: some sort of gamesmanship. Or whatever, but has far as 416 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 4: the basketball play, sabonas stepped up. He stepped up big 417 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 4: time to be extremely tough in this game. I mean 418 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: I counted at least six times that he was on 419 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: the floor and he got hit in the face by 420 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: that Steph Curry leg. That was a weird player. Yeah, 421 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: and the Kings wanted a foul. I don't know how 422 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: you get a call foul on a straight leg that 423 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: was just sort of around and he was checking his jaw. 424 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: I mean he was literally like, what's going on with 425 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: my jaw? He took it in the chest. I mean 426 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: he was a boxer. He was getting body blows, he 427 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 4: was getting it in the face, but he kept coming 428 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: back and he's extremely banged up. A ridiculous performance from 429 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: that guy, eight of twelve, both from the floor and 430 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: from the line, doing everything really yeah. 431 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean he got Draymond and Looney into foul trouble 432 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: as well, which definitely played a part in that third quarter. 433 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: They went on a huge run and they were in 434 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: the Bonus from like the ten minute mark on. That 435 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: is another Della Vadova parallel for me is how much 436 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: the Bonus is getting beat up in this series he's 437 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: like chest face everything. The guy is just he's taken 438 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: shots from Draymond. And there's that clip going around of 439 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: j R. Smith on the JJ Reddick podcast where like 440 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: he almost died trying to guard Steph Current. That is 441 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: what it feels like Sabonis versus Draymond and Looney. So yeah, 442 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: he looked like he was in a ton of pain, 443 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: went to the free throw line, missed a couple of 444 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: free throws after the flagrant, So surely something going on 445 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: in his abdomen as well. I assume he will be fine, 446 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: but we will see what happens with Draymond here. We're 447 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: getting dragged though by the stream team test. They're hating 448 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: this take. 449 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: They're hating that you should be suspended. Yeah, of course 450 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: you look at the slow mo and you say, what, 451 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: what the hell? What the hell? And if you watch 452 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: the Kings broadcast replays, they're even they're different than the 453 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: national broadcast. They they look even worse. Actually, they're they're 454 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 4: sort of the Sabonis grab is blocked off because there's 455 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: one from the angle where you can't even see saboniss grab. 456 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: So you just see a guy stomping on another guy. Yes, 457 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: but who initiate it, clearly Sabonis. If Sabonis doesn't do that, 458 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 4: and Green stops, of course suspension, But we don't know 459 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: what would have happened if Sabonis didn't grab him and 460 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: hold him there. And Sabonis he gets away with with 461 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: what he did because he's not a dirty player by 462 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: any means. But he was asked about it after game, 463 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 4: Hey did you grab it? And he just kind of 464 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: basically said, like, I was on the ground and I grabbed. 465 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: I didn't grab I was just on the ground doing 466 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: whatever I did, and my arms just happened to go 467 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: in that in that direction. And he wouldn't take the 468 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: bait on the repeated question, but he did that first. 469 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: And where was Green gonna go? That was a good grasp. 470 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, where was Green gonna go? But 471 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: people say he could have stepped over him. I don't 472 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: think he could have stepped over him. There was a 473 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: it was a body like really sort of in the 474 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: fetal position towards him. There wasn't a lot of room. 475 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 4: I don't think is that very flexible, and he's not 476 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: very flexible. 477 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: He can't reach his leg another one foot over That 478 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: would be ridiculous. But even if his foot lands on 479 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: Sabonis's chest, you could push off the other foot, you know, 480 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: the one that's not on his ribs butts. 481 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was hopping with that foot because he 482 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: was trying to get it away from Sabonis's Like he 483 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: stopped too hard. 484 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: Stop too hard. Yeah, yeah, he escalated it. Absolutely, he 485 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: deserved the ejection. 486 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't doing a one hop you know kids 487 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: want one hop on your one foot. He was doing 488 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: like a sort of a line dancing thing like we 489 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: talked about. It was a stompy stomp, you know. He 490 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 4: was ready to twirl and to tip his cowboy hat. 491 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: For sure. There was there was more to that move, 492 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: like it could have literally been a dance. He literally 493 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: he put that foot down with a little authority, if 494 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: we're getting into the nitty gritty with authority, But it 495 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: was caused by a guy grabbing the other leg. You 496 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: only got two legs. He had to put one down, 497 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: and yeah, maybe thirty percent too hard. But Sibonis was fine, 498 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: even though he's hurt, but he's fine. 499 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: He's a tough guy, a tough Yeah. 500 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: The dude is played with an injured thumb all season long. 501 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: I do want to see Green comeback. I think there's 502 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: a respect level on both sides. Because Sabonis was battling 503 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: through and he wasn't faking on the ground. I get that. 504 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: There's there's no doubt about that he got tossed. 505 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: I'm good with it, all right, Start bench cut, Draymond 506 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 2: playoff incidents, kicking Steven Adams in the nuts on a rebound. 507 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: But what's hold on? What's the criteria? Start bench cut? 508 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: You're just ranking them? 509 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 4: Okay, whatever you want. 510 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: It sounds more like a basketball thing if I say 511 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: start back. 512 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. 513 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: Kicking, kicking Steven Adams in the nuts on a rebound, 514 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: punching Lebron in the balls in the finals, or stomping 515 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: on Demonta Sabonis's chest only a first round. 516 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: Matchup, obviously starting this kick to the testicles. Yeah, great picture. Hilarious, 517 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: hilarious picture, most emphatic. Where did I see the artwork 518 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: done for this? There's there's there's also artwork of Draymond 519 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: kicking Steven Adams. It's it's because he's going at him. 520 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: You're talking about a wrestler. I mean, that is just 521 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: a ferocious kick. I assume you got to start that 522 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: as well, right, and then I'm. 523 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: Going with I'm going with the picture is amazing. 524 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I go with chest stut because that was far 525 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 4: more This is far lethal what's the word aggressive than 526 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 4: the punch to the nuts. That's not a lot there. 527 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 4: There's not a lot there, and the camera footage sucks. 528 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 529 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so go ahead. I got something to say about 530 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: the Deli comments afterwards. 531 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: No, I think yeah, I think you're I don't know, 532 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: the effect of the Lebron punch was so massive, you 533 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: know what it did sprawn the first three to one 534 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: comeback in NBA Finals history. But the fact that Draymond 535 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: actually got suspended because he accumulated flagrant foul points I 536 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: think been forgotten to history. And maybe that's something that 537 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: actually plays a factor if the Warriors find a way 538 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: to get out of this series. Because there was a 539 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: Draymond like slamming Michael Beasley in the first round of 540 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: that playoffs. 541 00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I got that. 542 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: That was like a huge reason. Yeah, rockets Beasley a 543 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: huge part of the reason why he accumulated those flagrant 544 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: foul points. They add up. 545 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 4: Let me just say let me just say that about 546 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 4: del Vedova you said he was on JJ Redick's podcast. Sorry, 547 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: Jerr Smith was on JJ Redx podcast talking about Matthew 548 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 4: Delvodova guarding Steph in the twenty fifteen finals and he 549 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 4: almost died it and literally, if you remember back, he 550 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: had to go get ivy and he went to the 551 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 4: hospital because he was low on fluids and he was 552 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: in the ice bass. And Jered Smith said, mad respect 553 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 4: for Matthew Delvodova, He's one of my favorite people. We 554 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: have footage of him taking ice bass. What are we 555 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: waiting for, like maybe there's going to be a Steph 556 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: Curry doc twenty years from now, and that he almost 557 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: murdered this man on the basketball floor. But if you 558 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: have any sort of footage, like maybe he misspoke because 559 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: there are some some foggy photos of Deli in the 560 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: ice bath. But the NBA does some good things, but 561 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: they wait too long to release footage. We would eat 562 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: that up. Like the athletic writes a book after every 563 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: championship for every team. It's it's a coffee table book. Okay, 564 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 4: video is different, but you could release We got our 565 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: manager room, we got our man j D. We could 566 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: compile something decent in months after there's footage, we gotta 567 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: wait for like the last dance for twenty four years 568 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: or whatever it was. 569 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: We want to see Matthew Delvedova in an ice pad. 570 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: Okay, totally send. 571 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: The footage to us and we will edit it exactly, 572 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: not me specifically. Jay, you'll do it, Jerome will do 573 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: it something to make it into a short. This is 574 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: what Matthew Delvdova looks like in an ice bath. 575 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: Send it to JJ Reddick. I mean they had a 576 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: great interview. Jay was awesome on there. I can't wait 577 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: to watch Jr's documentary on Amazon Prime. Actually we should 578 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: do a film session for that, but it's about him 579 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: going back to school. I'm looking forward to watching that. 580 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 4: So you can make something you can make footage about 581 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: or a film about Jay or Smith going back to school. 582 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: We can make a film about Delhi most dying literally 583 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: had to go to the hospital if you remember that. 584 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: The hospital. Yeah, so that was pretty neat. Let's get 585 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: that footage you going. 586 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: I we'll see it someday when Lebron makes his documentary. 587 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: There's still another basketball game to talk about. A little 588 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: less drama though. In the Eastern Conference game, after a 589 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: slow first half, the Sixers solved the Nets defense to 590 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: take a two to zero lead over the Nets thanks 591 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: to big games from Joel Embiid, Tyres Maxi, and Tobias Harris. 592 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: True a false test. The Sixers are going to sweep 593 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: the Nets. 594 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: I say no, I say that's false. I do just 595 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: hold out hope. Really it's a game that they're going 596 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: to get at home, just because the Sixers give up 597 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 4: a game. Now, the Sixers have obviously done their job 598 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: and won both games at home, and em beads way 599 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 4: too much of a problem for this Nets team. End 600 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: of story. That's what we thought going into the series. 601 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 4: That's what's happening now. They're just too small, the fronting, 602 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: zoning and going small away from Nick Klaxon, the only 603 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: guy who can think about art, Joel Embiid worked for 604 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: a half. Nick Claxton sat on the bench and they 605 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: literally played five wings, guards and wings out there. Claxton 606 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: the only center to play last night. He was minus 607 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 4: nine in the first half. But somehow the Nets were 608 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: up five at half because of just how relentless they were, 609 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: and because the Sixers, until Doc rivers inspirational speech, just 610 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: weren't getting him. Bead. The ball, and Doc said, come on, 611 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 4: give him the ball. Give them the ball. 612 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: Will be good if he can touch the ball. 613 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: Miked up. Yeah, he just continuously said come on. It 614 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: was as easy as that. 615 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: He just said come on a lot of times. 616 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. In the third quarter they decided to get him 617 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: the ball in the middle of the floor. The devils 618 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: started coming and Embiid's passing is out of this world. 619 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: He's throwing forty foot passes from the top to each 620 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: corner wherever. He just knows the guys are there and 621 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: he's firing away. And so they dismantled them in the 622 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 4: second half. Yeah, the Nets could win just because they 623 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 4: I think it's more the Sixers not playing to their capabilities. 624 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: But this is rough. I mean, they tried, and if 625 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: they shot a little better in game two like they 626 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: did in Game one, then they win. The three balls 627 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: just weren't going down. I did want to see Cam 628 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: Johnson after a twenty two point first half get some 629 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: more shots in the second half that kind of went away. 630 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: But that's it. 631 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: That's all the analysis I got for you. True. 632 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there is potentially a world where the 633 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: Sixers get up three zero and give up the classic 634 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: game four gentlemen sweep game, not giving a full effort 635 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: against the Nets. But this thing is completely jover. The 636 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: Nets played perfect, I thought in the first half, did 637 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: exactly what they needed to do to pull any kind 638 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: of an upset. You mentioned it. The smaller lineup had 639 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: the Sixers flustered. They were just trying to get the 640 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: ball into Joel Embiid in the post, and nobody wanted 641 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: to throw an outlet or throw an entry pass to Embiid. 642 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: They just couldn't figure out a way to get them 643 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: the ball. They were creating advantages. The Nets were shooting 644 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: threes eight of twenty two in the first half. Sixers 645 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: meanwhile four of sixteen from three twelve turnovers. You mentioned 646 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: Cam Johnson was on fire. He had twenty two in 647 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: the first half, nine to thirteen from the field that 648 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: monster dunk on Embiid. But in the second half, Doc 649 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: Rivers gave his come on, come on, come on speech 650 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: and then moved Joel Embiid to the top of the key, 651 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit over towards the left elbow as well, 652 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: and it was so easy for him to see where 653 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: the double teams were coming. And then occasionally triple teams, 654 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: which was not working out well for the Nets because 655 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Embiid was in distributor mode, being able to see the 656 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: double team. He just whipped the ball to the opposite 657 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: corner usually, and then it was Tucker in the corner, 658 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: Maxie in the corner, and Tobias Harris, who I thought 659 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: had an awesome game, kind of lurking down in the 660 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: dunker spot for a long time. In the third quarter, 661 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: it felt like the Sixers were either getting a dunk 662 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: at the rim or a wide open three, usually from 663 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: the corner. They knocked down a ton of those. It 664 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: got to the point where the Nets could no longer 665 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: double Embiid, so he was going one on one and 666 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: they obviously don't have any sort of matchup for Embiid. 667 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: One on one. He was scoring time and time again. 668 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: Sixers came alive from three in the second half, they 669 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: hit seven. The Nets only hit five. They stopped turning 670 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: the ball over. Only seven. Much more manageable in the 671 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: second half for the Sixers, and like you're saying, Cam Johnson, 672 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: they took him out of the game. Six points on 673 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: six shots in the second half. That was impressive from Embeid. 674 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: That was a game where you would say the Nets 675 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 2: took him out of the game at least for a half, 676 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: and he finished with twenty points, nineteen rebounds, seven assists, 677 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: a steal, three blocks, which he says should have been more, 678 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: and he may be right. Also eight turnovers because there 679 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: were problems, certainly in the first half, but the guy 680 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: is owning the lane on both ends of the court 681 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: and there's nothing the Nets can do about it. So 682 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: unless the Sixers have a moment of slack aitude in 683 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: game four. 684 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: I think this one is done for slacketudo slackitude when 685 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 4: your slack alert goes off the wrong time scut an adage. 686 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: Like when you get upset that you're getting a slack 687 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: thing you weren't expecting. 688 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: Maybe that's nice. 689 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when I said JD sixteen pictures, yeah yesterday 690 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 2: for today's show. It just hit me with a salute 691 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: face slackitude. 692 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: What did you want? Oh, thank you, thank you for 693 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: the extra work, thank you. 694 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 2: Just trying to think of a recent slack interaction I had. 695 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: I had a pleasant one with task this morning. We 696 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: were agreeing on things. 697 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 4: I've got a better one from JD. The dead silence 698 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: on slack. Oh, oh, well, that's slacktitude without saying anything. 699 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 4: When when did I not respond? Let me count the way, man, 700 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: I turn off my phone and I put it away. 701 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: That's okay between three and four p Yeah, usually that's 702 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: my nat. You know what it's it's hard, but that 703 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: in playoff mode, when you're in playoff mode, that is 704 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: the time for us. Yes, you got to gear up 705 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 4: for the evening. You're obviously up really early. It's hard 706 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: to turn it off. It's hard to turn off at 707 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: that time. Maybe I got it. Maybe I am glad 708 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: we had this talk. Maybe I got to go do 709 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 4: not disturb folks mode or wherever the hell these phones do. Anyway. 710 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: The thing about Nick Clackson, he's just just quickly. I know, 711 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: we don't have to talk much more. Nick Clackson got 712 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: some defensive player of the Year chatter earlier this season. 713 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 4: He can't even be on the floor with Joel Embiid 714 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 4: for them to win. Yeah, it's it's obviously a testament 715 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 4: to Joel Embiid. It's just the size. The size is 716 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 4: too much. Clason's large, six eleven, but he's he's he'll 717 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 4: get bowled over every single time. And you saw that 718 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 4: when you said when the ISOs happened, when the one 719 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 4: on ones happened, he just embid can get to wherever 720 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: he wants without getting called for offensive fouls. He's he's 721 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: that skilled. His footwork is that good, his handle is 722 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 4: that good, his even just his handwork is that god like. 723 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 4: He had some low dribbles to be able to divert 724 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 4: away from some hands from the nets. It's just odd 725 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 4: that guy gets Defensive Player of the Year chatter and 726 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 4: then can't literally can't stay on the floor. I just 727 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 4: quickly said, Harris, two great games back to back, and 728 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 4: just having one good game from Hard and then one 729 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 4: good game for Maxi is enough for this team to play, yeah, 730 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 4: and hold the Nets to eighty four points. That's that's 731 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 4: the weird thing. They had a way better shooting game 732 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 4: in game one to get to one hundred and one points, 733 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: but this one felt a lot closer even though they 734 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 4: couldn't score. 735 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's crazy to see that at the end 736 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: of the game, the Nets finished with eighty four points. 737 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: I guess only ninety six for the Sixers, so a 738 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 2: little bit more of a nineties styled game, But yeah, 739 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: Maxi definitely the beneficiary of the game plan. For the Nets, 740 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: getting the ball out of Embiid's hands, making Harden a 741 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: playmaker as well, and thirty three for Maxie, including six threes. 742 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: For the longest time, all he had was points, no 743 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: rebounds or assists. Unfortunately grabbed three rebounds, but a great 744 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: line from him. And then Tobias Harris, like you mentioned 745 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: on playback last night, all we just kept saying was, 746 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 2: don't forget Tobias is Harris. Harris is on the Sixers. 747 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: It's easy to overlook him, but he made a lot 748 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: of plays last night. Finished with twenty points twelve rebounds, 749 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: which I thought was really key for the Sixers as well. 750 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 2: They played well. The only guy who had a stinker 751 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: was James Harden. Eight points for Harden last night, three 752 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: of thirteen shooting from the field, two of eight from three, 753 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: He had seven assists, He had five turnovers. You told 754 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: me he was gonna have his best playoffs ever yesterday. 755 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: Man, you lying to me, I hope maybe it could. 756 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 4: It will it It's there's a still a chance. There's 757 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 4: absolutely a teeny tiny chance he gets away with this one. 758 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: No one really is gonna remember. Yeah, but he does 759 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 4: have bad game twos, Yes he does. Forgot about that, 760 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 4: forgot about Tobias Harris being on the Sixers roster every 761 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 4: time we mention it. Oh yeah, don't forget about Tobias Harris. 762 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: I forget about it immediately after. And I forget that 763 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 4: James Harden had a bad or as bad at Game twos. 764 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what this team is. 765 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 4: Harden waiting to pick it up in round two, three, 766 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 4: and four. I do think it is best for them 767 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 4: to get it over with as fast as possible. Yes, 768 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 4: because their opponents in the Boston Celtics, most likely they're 769 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 4: probably going to get it done pretty quickly too. 770 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 2: Yes, both seem to be pretty short series Boston and Philadelphia, 771 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: and should be an awesome matchup in the second round 772 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: assuming they both get through. Nothing is done. 773 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 4: That's a good way to put it. You got to 774 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: say that, But I held out hope that the Hawks 775 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 4: could win a couple of games. They gotta do something tonight. 776 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: Series doesn't start till the home team win, that's what 777 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: they say. So series is starting Game three for Nets 778 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 2: versus six Ers later this week. Anything else about the 779 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 2: sport of playoff basketball quickly? 780 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 4: Don't want to jinx anything. I think the officials are 781 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: doing pretty well. Okay, three nights in, haven't been a 782 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 4: story yet, haven't been a story yet. Whether you want 783 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: to call them a story regarding Draymond Green's foul thing, 784 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 4: that's up to you. But I will say a lot 785 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 4: of griping yesterday on both sides, on the Kings and 786 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 4: the Warriors. Both were right. I logged like six seven 787 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 4: fouls and it's pretty even. They screwed up for the Kings, 788 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 4: they screwed up for the Warriors. Very difficult calls. I think, 789 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 4: even though they were letting them play, there was a 790 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 4: little bit of overreaction I think to some physical play 791 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 4: on the perimeter. Let them bump a little bit. But 792 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 4: so far, so good, Tray. They've kind of stayed, they've 793 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 4: kind of stayed out of the way. They've called the 794 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 4: movement screen here, they're called the travel on Stars there. 795 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: So I'm yeah, that's all I gotta say. I just 796 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: feel like we have to say it because we do 797 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 4: the other things a good point the other side. Otherwise, Man, 798 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: we were watching playback or watching Sixers nets on playback 799 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 4: the early game, and we said, if the Kings can't 800 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: be up two to zero at the end of the night. Wow, Wow, Wow. 801 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 4: The dynasty it could be crumbling finally, and that's what 802 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: we're getting. Yeah. Yeah, we chose to get a little 803 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 4: bit of sleep and not go all out and watch 804 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 4: the Kings and Warriors on playback. And you know, we're 805 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 4: a little selfish and did the early game here on 806 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 4: the East Coast and want to go all out. But 807 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 4: everybody's got to be happy in terms of this series 808 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: being the best series so far, it's obviously it's paid off. 809 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 4: We all expected it to be the best series. That 810 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 4: doesn't always happen. It's happening right. 811 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: Now, Absolutely happening right now. Remind me to ask you 812 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: about referees later in the C block. 813 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha. 814 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: For now, we're gonna take a break and when we 815 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: come back, it'll be the B block back with no dunks. 816 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for getting involved in the 817 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: heated discussion about Draymond Green for Game three. Leave your 818 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: comments down below. Let us know what you think about 819 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 2: those takes. People are loving those. 820 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 4: Takes more like hating. But yeah, yeah, hate and love. 821 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 2: It's very similar emotions, very strong emotions both ways. 822 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: We love the passion though, we love the passion. 823 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 2: I saw people saying people contain multitudes and podcasters are 824 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: people too, which is something I'll always remember. So thank you, 825 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: Pierre Publico. Big thanks to you. It's award season, y'all, 826 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: and we got our first announcement last night as the 827 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies Jaron Jackson Junior was named twenty twenty three 828 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: KIA Defensive Player of the Year. Triple j led the 829 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 2: league in blocks this season, and he led the voting 830 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: in a big way, finishing with fifty six first place 831 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 2: votes to top Brook Lopez and Evan Mobley, the other 832 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 2: finalist in the awards. They finished second, third, respectively. Test 833 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: any surprise here that Jaron Jackson Junior gets the DPOY crown. 834 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 4: No surprise deserving. I think I had Brooke at the 835 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 4: end of the day, But for the beginning of the day, 836 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 4: I was definitely in the corner of Jared Jackson with 837 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 4: his impact all over the floor. Evan Mobley a good 838 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 4: case in terms of being all over the floor and 839 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 4: how he affects three point shots when you're looking at 840 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 4: a big and you gotta split hairs. I think that's 841 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 4: definitely one reason why you could pick them mobile. But 842 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: Jared Jackson Junr. Is sort of in between these guys. 843 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 4: He definitely guards at three point line off, obviously leading 844 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: the league in blocks. Guards the rim is probably the 845 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 4: biggest deterrent, the best rim protector amongst these three guys. 846 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 4: This is the scariest of them all. The argument against 847 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: Jared Jackson Jr. Is that he doesn't play enough, not 848 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 4: a lot of minutes. Twenty eight minutes. But you can 849 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 4: turn that around and say, well, that's how effective he is. 850 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 4: Imagine if he played thirty five minutes. I guess it's 851 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 4: the Steph Curry argument early in his career about being MVP, 852 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 4: doesn't play it enough minutes, didn't have to play in 853 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 4: a lot of games because they blew them up. Well, 854 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 4: it's also a factor of the Memphis Grizzlies coaching staff. 855 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: They just say we don't want to play our stars 856 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 4: all that much. Not it's not just Jaron Jackson Junior. 857 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 4: You look up and down their roster. John Morant doesn't 858 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 4: even play thirty two minutes a game, and it's between 859 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 4: thirty two and twenty seven for Steven Adams. So that's 860 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 4: where Jaron Jackson Junior is. I think we have the 861 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 4: board there. JD. 862 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all their starters are like under thirty two minutes 863 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 2: a game. 864 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it fits right in. I mean, that's just 865 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 4: what they do on that team. So part of it, 866 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 4: a tiny part of it is foul trouble and that's 867 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 4: what people will get only, but also it's they want 868 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 4: to sit him and so keep him fresh, and that's 869 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 4: what they do with their entire roster. You're watching it now, 870 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 4: you're you're looking at graph paper now if you're with 871 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 4: us on YouTube, Morant under thirty two, Bye under thirty two, 872 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 4: Brooks at thirty, Jaron's Action Junior at twenty eight point four, 873 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 4: and Steven Adams at twenty seven. Those are their five starters. 874 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 4: That's what they do. They play their guy's lights. So 875 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 4: you can't fault him for that. You got to look 876 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 4: into the numb and I think that's a fair way 877 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 4: of saying that, yes, he doesn't play a lot, but 878 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 4: there's a reason as well. 879 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that if the minutes increased one 880 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: point six minutes per game to the fact that there 881 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 2: would just be a three in that first column instead 882 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 2: of two, I think that would change everything and it 883 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 2: wouldn't really be an argument because to me, defensive Player 884 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 2: of the Year feels a little bit minutes proof as 885 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: an award. In twenty fourteen to fifteen, Kawhi Leonard one 886 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. He played sixty four games, 887 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 2: played thirty one point eight minutes per game, but he 888 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: was clearly one of the two to best defenders in 889 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: the league. It was him and it was Draymond. Kawhi 890 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: got those couple of awards right in a row, and 891 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 2: it's just kind of like, who is the best at 892 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: defense this season? As long as you've played enough to 893 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 2: qualify for the award, I'm fine with Jaren Jackson Junior 894 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 2: getting it, though it is weird that brook Lopez had 895 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 2: the exact same case this season that Marcus Smart had 896 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: last season. Yeah, for the Celtics when Smart won it, 897 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: it was Smart and Robert Williams were two leading candidates 898 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 2: for the award because the Bucks had the absolute or 899 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: the Celtics last season had the best defense. I think 900 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 2: that's the same case for brook Lopez. He missed all 901 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: of the twenty one to twenty two season for the 902 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 2: most part, came back played a great year for the Bucks. 903 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: They have the best defense in the league. You can 904 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 2: see the impact that Brooke has, but the narrative changes sometimes, 905 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 2: so he may have been hurt by Smart getting it. 906 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 2: He may have been hurt by Smart getting it. And 907 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: you know, Jared Jackson Junior, I think had probably a 908 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: stronger candidacy season than anybody else last year, especially if 909 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: the number two candidate was on the same team. But 910 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 2: Jackson finished first, Lopez second, mobilely third. I kind of 911 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,240 Speaker 2: thought he was going to get more than eight first 912 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 2: place votes because I think he had six on the 913 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: tracker from the guy on Twitter, like he had six 914 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: first place votes that had leaked to be a podcast 915 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 2: and article Ride Ups made its way to Max Crows 916 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: I believe is his name crows Fire on Twitter. So 917 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 2: he had six public votes only finished with eight. So 918 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: I guess the Mobley voters were just happy to get 919 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: their votes trying to influence the proceedings. 920 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 4: They were getting excited and talking about Mobley, who is 921 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 4: It's an interesting scenario there because he's playing with Jared 922 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: Allen and Brook. Lopez didn't get the Defensive Player of 923 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: the Year award even a few years ago when Yanni 924 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 4: Stetakopo won it. Yanny scot it Evan Mobley's case is 925 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 4: somewhat like Yanni swear He's not the back line defender, 926 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 4: but he's the most dynamic defender guarding everywhere. Evan Mobley 927 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 4: had the most three points shots contested this season of 928 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 4: anybody in the National Basketball Association, which is pretty wild 929 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 4: to think that he does that. But yeah, it's it's 930 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 4: fun to look at the Max Froze Twitter account that 931 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 4: the Twitter heat is. It is a fire account. It's 932 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 4: fun because I started looking at a head to the 933 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year balloting and that there is one 934 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 4: voter who gave a vote, a first place vote to 935 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 4: Walker Kessler with the Utah Jazz. It's a flashback to 936 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: our man, Chuck Swirsky given Barneyani a vote over Brandon 937 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 4: Roy Blank Carrow should be the guy. And I'm totally 938 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 4: fine with Triple J getting it to circle back here. Yeah, 939 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 4: I think I think Brooke is sort of hurt by 940 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 4: the team award given to Smart last year because it 941 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 4: would feel like that a little bit with Brook two, 942 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 4: because you'd probably say Ganis is the best defender. That's 943 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 4: why this is this award. It is a team award 944 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 4: a lot of the time. But Jared Jackson Junior I 945 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 4: leading the league blocks two years in a row. 946 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 2: And the Grizzlies were bad on defense until he got 947 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 2: healthy and then they were suddenly great on defense. 948 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 4: Turned it around. You Yeah. 949 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 2: Others receiving first place votes Draymond Green got three, bam 950 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: Adebayo got one, Joel Embiid got one first place vote, 951 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 2: and then others on the list are Giannis, Ojiannaobi, Drew Holliday. 952 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why Brook Lopez didn't win, because there are 953 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: three Bucks in the top ten for Defensive Player of 954 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: the Year voting split in some votes there, so Drew, 955 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: then Nick Claxton, Alex Caruso, and Jimmy Butler all made 956 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: the list. Cool, those guys are good at defense. We're 957 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 2: ten games into the playoffs. So far every team has 958 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: played at least one game, so we've seen playoff gear 959 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: and slogans from all sixteen teams who were still in 960 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: the mix. I thought it'd be fun to rank the 961 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 2: playoff Mantra shirts each team is wearing on the bench. 962 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 4: There's a bunch of them, tasks sixteen. 963 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 2: There's even more, actually a weird number, what seventeen? There 964 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: are seventeen playoff Mantra t shirts available at Nike. Right now, 965 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: I'll start you with the honorable mention. So the Chicago 966 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 2: Bulls and the New Orleans Pelicans. These ones are tabbed 967 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: as coming soon on the website, A c red for 968 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: the Bulls, A one NOLA for the Pels. They did 969 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: not have these for the Raptors or for the thunder 970 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I guess you gotta. I don't 971 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: understand how the Bulls and the pell Plicans got theirs mate, 972 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: but they didn't make the real playoffs. Ergo, they are 973 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 2: only honorable mention. But if you want to honor the 974 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls becoming the first ten seed to ever win 975 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 2: a play in game, that's how you do it. 976 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 4: And they weren't worn, they weren't handed out at the plane. 977 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know if they were 978 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: wearing them. 979 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 4: Then I guess the Bulls were on the road, so 980 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter both times, right, Yeah, but these. 981 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 2: Are what they wear, like on their benches, like the 982 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 2: teams are wearing them as warm ups or any something 983 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: like that. 984 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't wear this, no, I mean 985 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 4: that's so that's okay. So I guess there's eighteen tray 986 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: eighteen shirts. 987 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 2: You would think so, because coming in number sixteen on 988 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: the list, the Los Angeles Lakers, they didn't make a shirt. 989 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 2: They didn't make a shirt this year. The only team 990 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: that doesn't have one who is in the playoffs. So 991 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 2: as you're seeing here coming in at number fifteen, the 992 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies. Apparently their playoffs slogan this year, Memphis Grizzlies. 993 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: That's all it says on the shirt that was crazy. 994 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 2: That was the one that was labeled as the Mantra shirt. 995 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: I did find this on the Grizzlies store on like 996 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 2: stored at NBA dot com or something like that, with 997 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: US on a plain white T shirt. I think that 998 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 2: with US is actually their twenty twenty three playoff motto. 999 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 2: But that is a pretty lackluster shirt, plain white T 1000 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 2: shirt with US twenty twenty three playoffs number fifteen. 1001 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 4: That's bad enough to make into a v neck. I 1002 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 4: think I could right, yeah, you could see that in 1003 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 4: a crappy T shirt store where they just put every 1004 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 4: type of apparel and throw that logo on there. 1005 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: It could be a Hoodie, Red Bubble or Zazzle or 1006 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 2: those like the like make your own T shirt websites 1007 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 2: that's what this looks like to be. 1008 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 4: It's unfortunate. 1009 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we're getting into official official shirts starting now. 1010 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 2: Number fourteen on the list, the Cleveland Cavaliers black shirt, 1011 00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 2: white writing, let them know. That's the slogan. Not very 1012 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 2: Calves to me. Nothing about this screams Cleveland Cavaliers. This 1013 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: very much looks like a free T shirt you would 1014 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 2: get on a Yeah. 1015 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 4: An argument yeah for the black would be that though, 1016 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 4: that it's in an arena. I think it could be 1017 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 4: a little intimidating for the opponent to have eighteen nineteen 1018 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 4: thousand in a dark color all together. And and the 1019 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 4: fact that it's probably not matched by the opponent's jersey. 1020 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 4: That's the important part. 1021 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: That's very important part. 1022 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking at. I'm starting to evaluate these 1023 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 4: by how they look on TV in an arena, and 1024 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 4: if they match the opponent's jersey. 1025 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, this one's very readable. It's a heavy font right there. 1026 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 4: That is heavy. It's not calvesy, not Calves at all. 1027 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 2: And that is a similar complaint I have for our 1028 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: number thirteen team. Bring it in. That's the Denver Nuggets 1029 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 2: playoff logo. Another black T shirt, basically white writing, bring 1030 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: it in. But the reason I have this one a 1031 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 2: little bit higher than the Cavaliers is because there was 1032 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: at least some Denver Nuggets Flare thrown into it with 1033 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 2: the pickaxe logo, and they threw a random snow capped 1034 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 2: mountain on the eye for some reason. But this one 1035 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 2: just seems like a four percent step up from the Calves. 1036 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 4: I'm not really happy with the team name underneath it. Yeah, 1037 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 4: from everything, that seems to be the general style though. Yeah, 1038 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 4: it's I that's the thing they all, I guess everyone communicated, coordinated. 1039 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 4: We're throwing this on every single shirt out there. 1040 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: Bring it in. 1041 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine, bring In's fine. At least there's color 1042 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 4: on this way. At least there's color on there. Yeah, 1043 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 4: it's a it's got a little bit more to it, 1044 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 4: I think than the Calves one. At number twelve, the 1045 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 4: Atlanta Hawks shirt. It's a black shirt. 1046 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 2: Once again, you got together four oh four and yellow 1047 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,240 Speaker 2: and red, and then for some reason it's mirrored upside 1048 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 2: down with an upside down four oh four together. Just 1049 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 2: a lot going on on this one. 1050 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I initially thought, and then I thought, 1051 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 4: you know, we're we're bold enough to say that we 1052 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 4: can have a lot going on and we're okay with that. 1053 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 4: I would like the mirror to be a little bit faded. 1054 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's grey, Yeah, it could be faded more. 1055 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. Together four oh four yeah, I like 1056 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,479 Speaker 2: it because I have a four h four area code. 1057 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 2: But that's about it. 1058 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 4: I hear you. 1059 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, to me is another freebee presented by 1060 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 2: a bank somehow. Right at number yeah, we're in the 1061 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 2: bank shirt segment, right, yeah, I would say at number eleven, 1062 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 2: all hands, that's a Clippers shirt. The la is in red, 1063 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 2: which is a nice touch. But I wasn't a big 1064 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 2: fan of this because when I hear all hands, I 1065 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,479 Speaker 2: don't think all hands on deck the way you would 1066 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 2: on a Clipper ship. I hear all hands meeting at 1067 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 2: twelve o'clock noon. Zoom link to follow. 1068 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 5: How much anxiety would that provoke? An email from Steve 1069 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 5: Bomber got an all hands meeting company. 1070 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 2: All hands shirts. 1071 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 4: I think Steve Bomber's meetings are a lot more entertaining 1072 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 4: than other company meetings. Maybe it's announcing that we got 1073 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 4: an arena going. We've decided on all our eateries in 1074 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 4: the new Clippers arena exciting stuff. Yeah, there's a color here. 1075 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 2: There's a color here. 1076 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the blue, which is good. 1077 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 4: We just had like back to back to back to 1078 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 4: back to back to back blacks, right, we had a 1079 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 4: lot of blacks there. 1080 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 2: People are saying this is a Kawhi Leonard reference because 1081 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 2: his hands are so big. Okay, I like it a 1082 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 2: little bit more. 1083 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 4: Now. 1084 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 2: You sold me on this one handsy team, and you 1085 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: anti sold me stream team on the Hawk's four oh 1086 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 2: four shirt, which I think maybe should move down even 1087 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: more because everybody in the stream team is saying four 1088 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 2: oh four wins not found that like the status message 1089 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 2: you get when you log into a bad website on 1090 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: the Internet. 1091 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 4: It's a good point, all right. 1092 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: At number ten, saw this shirt last night for the 1093 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 2: love of Philly seventy six ers mantra T shirt the 1094 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 2: City of Brotherly Love. Okay, but that's a big old 1095 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 2: font on this shirt, and it makes the seventy six 1096 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: logo look very tiny inside that. Oh don't love it? 1097 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, this seemingly it's not as big as the four 1098 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 4: h four error shirt, But I think I like the 1099 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 4: four or four aero shirt more than this one, just 1100 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 4: because there's it's stacked this this font. 1101 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's too much, too much fun going on here. 1102 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. 1103 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 2: I thought of probably this could have gone below all hands, 1104 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 2: especially now that people got me fired off about the 1105 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: KWHI Leonard tie in as well. Yeah, but that's why, 1106 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 2: that's why people do tiers, because I would have all 1107 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 2: of these in the bank shirt and Tiars segment together. 1108 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 2: But we're knocking on the door of better shirts. 1109 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 4: I think you got to lower your expectations here. Just overall. 1110 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 4: I think you just gotta I know, somebody actually put 1111 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 4: work into all these, but think of them. Yes, freebie shirts, No, 1112 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: these aren't. 1113 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 2: Free, man, you're paying thirty five dollars plus shipping. 1114 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 4: I ain't, but I would. What about But are these? 1115 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 4: Are they is going to be in the arena for 1116 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 4: some of these? Probably? 1117 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: No. This you would have to buy from a team store. 1118 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 2: I bought the Bulls one last year. It was the 1119 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 2: exact same. It was c red, but it was red. 1120 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 4: Are you telling me the freebies that they're gonna give 1121 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 4: out are worse than these? 1122 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: Indeed? Indeed they are. Yeah, I'll say, like fly with 1123 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 2: us for the love of Philly. Maybe it'll say ding 1124 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: it that's actually a good one. 1125 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really better than this. 1126 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 2: All right, next tier, we're moving up number nine. Brooklyn Nets. 1127 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 2: Their shirt is just a black shirt that says the 1128 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 2: Brooklyn Way. This one is boring too, however, the Brooklyn 1129 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 2: Way is a phrase associated, yeah with the Nets, with 1130 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: the notorious big and just the thing that people say 1131 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 2: about Brooklyn in general. So that to me, this just 1132 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 2: looks like a Brooklyn T shirt you would get, maybe 1133 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 2: not Nets specific, but it's just a standard OK T shirt. 1134 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 4: The font is also the same font that they use. Yeah, 1135 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 4: it screams everyone against Brooklyn or whatever those shirts. 1136 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exact Brooklyn versus everybody something. 1137 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, this will sell well. But it's it's plain, 1138 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. 1139 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,959 Speaker 2: It's plain but not offensive the way the other ones. 1140 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 2: I think it can be a little. 1141 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah it fits this one. 1142 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: It makes you. It's really glaring. 1143 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 5: The little subtitle that they have at the bottom, like 1144 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 5: you left the captioning on or something with the trademark 1145 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 5: and the watermark, Like. 1146 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: Why get rid of all of them? 1147 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 4: That whole thing is that doesn't make it. 1148 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 2: You don't like the Dayton time stamps. 1149 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah your team? I don't print I printed and I 1150 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 4: got the U R L on the bottom of the paper, 1151 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 4: like crap, I don't want that. I don't need to. 1152 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 4: Don't show foot, please, you gotta turn. 1153 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 2: Off shirt wear this. That's very funny, all right. At 1154 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 2: number eight, we're staying in New York. This is all 1155 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 2: in all one, a Nick's shirt. They've got the five 1156 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 2: burrows listed around it. It's a blue shirt. They basically 1157 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: turned the NIXT logo into their slogan all in all one, 1158 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 2: and so that's why I have this one ahead of 1159 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 2: the nets. That looks cool. They turned the next logo 1160 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 2: into some more words. That's something we would do on 1161 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: a T shirt. 1162 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 4: So prompts the Balls to put Brooklyn on their shirt. 1163 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 2: That's a good point, damn, like in your face. 1164 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:26,439 Speaker 4: That's that's bold. I like the colors. Actually, yeah, it's okay, Yeah, 1165 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 4: I think. 1166 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 2: That's all right. That's all right, right in the middle, 1167 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: right in the middle. Number eight at number seven, had 1168 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 2: this one higher before I did my final review here. 1169 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: It's the Golden State Warriors black shirt says gold Blooded 1170 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: in gold on the front. I think they wore similar 1171 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 2: shirts last year. It's okay, you know, I think it's 1172 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 2: a striking look. Interesting font, but strengthen numbers will always 1173 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 2: be the Warrior's motto. 1174 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 4: To me, a very neat font, though I do like 1175 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 4: the way it's it's drawn. So I think this one 1176 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 4: as much as I uh diminished earlier shirts that no 1177 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 4: one should pay for them, this one it's payable. It's viable. 1178 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 4: It's a viable sailing. Yeah, the store, it's reasonable. It's 1179 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 4: a reasonable design to sell. 1180 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 2: It's a reasonable design. Yeah, black, black and gold. 1181 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of. 1182 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 2: Black shirts here in the mix, which you know, it's 1183 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: a great shirt at number six. We've seen this logo 1184 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 2: and this slogan for quite some time. It's a Milwaukee 1185 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Buck shirt and you're never gonna guess it says fear 1186 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 2: the Deer on it. They found their they found their slogan. 1187 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 2: They're like, we're sticking with it. We still want to 1188 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 2: be scary. 1189 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 4: Why so high? Tre good? 1190 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: It's green, it's good. I suppose this is in the 1191 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 2: mid tier all things considered. 1192 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: But it's not bad. 1193 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,439 Speaker 4: No, it's not bad. 1194 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 2: They got a good logo, they got good colors, they 1195 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 2: got a good slogan. They've probably done a similar shirt 1196 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 2: to this every year they've been in the playoffs with Yannis. 1197 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 2: So it's just a matter of moving that deer head 1198 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 2: around and moving those words around. 1199 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 5: They need to move the This side by side for 1200 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 5: the audio listeners is the big deer ahead on one 1201 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 5: side and the fear of the deer. It kind of 1202 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 5: looks like the last of us uh like logo, like 1203 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 5: the last of us words when you see it on 1204 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 5: the video game. We're in the show, but I hate this. 1205 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 5: Put put the put the deer in the center and 1206 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 5: then the fear of the deer around it, which we've 1207 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 5: seen before. 1208 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: But this is I don't like this. This should be 1209 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: way lower. 1210 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't like the side by side lookt. 1211 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Not to get all the stream team on you, but 1212 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: come on, try is. 1213 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 2: My worst take ever? 1214 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: What are your worst takes? 1215 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 2: Okay? I've been wearing a lot of green shirts lately. 1216 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 2: I was wearing a green shirt yesterday when I made 1217 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 2: the list. Something that influenced Yeah. 1218 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Green, is this good T shirt coming? 1219 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 2: I would rank it very highly on my list. Would 1220 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 2: it make top five? I don't know, but this one 1221 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 2: did from the Boston Celtics black shirt of course, Unfinished 1222 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Business in however, the I and the S in Unfinished 1223 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 2: is made to look like a gold eighteen because the 1224 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 2: Celtics are chasing their eighteenth championship. Nice pun. That's cool, Yeah, 1225 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 2: it's cool, classy, simple. 1226 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 4: Well, what I will say is neat idea, neat. 1227 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 2: Neat idea. 1228 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 4: What I will also say that eight it's an eight some. 1229 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 4: But if it's one of those uh optical illusions, like 1230 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 4: sometimes I look at it and I see it's all 1231 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 4: s like, I don't either see an eight. Then I'll 1232 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 4: look at it a different way and I'll see an eight. 1233 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 4: I'm not a designer, so I'm sure it's hard. But 1234 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 4: now I see an eight. Now I don't see it. 1235 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 4: It's it's one of those things that I just have 1236 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 4: to look at it the right way. So it's up 1237 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 4: to you, I'd argue. 1238 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 5: That's what makes it cool though, that's what makes it 1239 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 5: makes you think design because it is an I and 1240 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 5: it is an eighteen, and if you see it one 1241 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 5: way one one time and then the other way the 1242 01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 5: other time. 1243 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 4: It's executing both. You're right, You're right about that. 1244 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: I'm happy though, that the Celtics have these because for 1245 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 2: their Game one against the Hawks, they were wearing like 1246 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 2: a marathon themed shirt. It said one Boston on it 1247 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 2: and like the Boston Marathon branding is blue and yellow. Yeah, 1248 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 2: so they were wearing blue and yellow warm ups. They 1249 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 2: were playing on their standard light green parquet court, and 1250 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 2: they were wearing their dark green and black jerseys. That 1251 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 2: was way too many crazy colors going around, so I'm 1252 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 2: happy to see they simplified it here. And you know, 1253 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 2: I like the Celtics kind of putting it out there. 1254 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 2: We lost in the finals last year, so we're trying 1255 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 2: to win it this year. So that one is at 1256 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 2: number five. At number four, feel the Rule. This is 1257 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 2: a Sacramento King's shirt. We've got a big gray lion 1258 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 2: in the background and a little tiny cute gray lion 1259 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 2: in the foreground. It says feel the Roar in white. 1260 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 2: I think this is a cool looking shirt. I appreciate 1261 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 2: the tie in from the King of the Jungle to 1262 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 2: the Kings of Sacramento, but come on, everybody knows the 1263 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 2: slogan this year is Light the Beam. They were in 1264 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 2: a tough spot. Maybe Light the Beam is trademarked specifically 1265 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 2: by the King's franchise and they didn't have access to it, 1266 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 2: but still cool could have been better. 1267 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 4: Who doesn't have access to. 1268 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: It, Nike, I don't know. I don't know, keeping the 1269 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 2: beam to themselves little. 1270 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cool design. I would I would run 1271 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 4: with the beam if you could. Why the heck not. 1272 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 4: But at the same time, the Kings can do no 1273 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 4: wrong this year. Yeah, I'm pretty good. 1274 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, A little purple, yeah, I guess like a 1275 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 2: purple feel the roar in the background as well. I 1276 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: used to have a gray cat named Boots. We would 1277 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 2: shave her and just leave her lions mane and call 1278 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 2: her the elusive Gray Lion. So I'm very excited to 1279 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 2: see the Kings honoring her with a T shirt at 1280 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,439 Speaker 2: number three. Had this at number one for a long 1281 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 2: time until I did my last edit. Miami Heat the 1282 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 2: only white shirt in the mix. It says white Hot 1283 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 2: Playoffs in a Sarah font, which I think is just 1284 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 2: a classy look. Looks like a Vogue magazine. You got 1285 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 2: a tiny little heat symbol on there. But the reason 1286 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 2: I ended up knocking it down to number three was 1287 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 2: when I looked at it, I did not like the 1288 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 2: way twenty twenty three was written. Looks like a Papyrus 1289 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 2: font or something on those lines. 1290 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 4: Nice. 1291 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this one is maybe a little too playoff 1292 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,919 Speaker 2: thing because it says playoffs on there real hard. 1293 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 4: So if you go to wear this game to game 1294 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 4: one of next season, you're feeling dated. Man, are you 1295 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 4: telling me that this isn't handed out for free? 1296 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Sam out Of is wearing this. 1297 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 4: Wow, holy jumping crazy. 1298 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 5: The best thing about this is the white subtitle, like 1299 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 5: the that's the word the gray on white, So. 1300 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 4: It's that's muted. That's nice. I totally agree with that. Otherwise, yeah, 1301 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 4: it just it feels like, yeah, next year, you're useless. 1302 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 4: These are useless. 1303 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Useless. 1304 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 4: It says three right in the middle. 1305 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a That one is getting dated pretty quickly. 1306 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 2: But good thing that the heat won one game at least, 1307 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 2: so maybe you can wear the shirt a little bit longer. 1308 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 2: Sounds like I made the right call though, bumping it down. 1309 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 4: And you guys, I think would bump it down even further. Yeah, 1310 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 4: it's it's mistaken. People should buy it. I think it 1311 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 4: will look good in the arena because they Yeah, that's 1312 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 4: a good point. Yeah, they do wear white in the crowd. Okay, 1313 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 4: But now the top two shirts at number two rally 1314 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 4: the Valley, Oh, very nice. 1315 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Phoenix Sun's shirt. You got a nice gradient from yellow 1316 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,880 Speaker 2: or maybe that's an orangest to purple on rally the Valley. 1317 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 2: It's got their cool valley font on it. You get 1318 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 2: the little sunburst. You of course got the Dayton time 1319 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 2: stamps as well. Yeah, this one just I think looks 1320 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 2: like a cool shirt. Even if this was the free 1321 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: T shirt, if they gave you this as a free 1322 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 2: T shirt at a game, you would wear it another time. Yeah, 1323 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: which is a huge compliment to a free T shirt. 1324 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 2: This one is good. 1325 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. It fits all of their previous branding as well, 1326 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 4: all their their city edition fonts. It fits the same. 1327 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 4: It's exactly now worthy. This is also worthy of a purchase. 1328 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,919 Speaker 4: It's just nice. Yeah, it's nice. 1329 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 2: It's a cool one. 1330 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to rally the valley. 1331 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 2: I'd love to rally the Valley back. And that to me, like, yeah, 1332 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 2: you got it in twenty twenty three, it says it, 1333 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 2: but you could wear that next year, any year hence exactly, 1334 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 2: because you're still trying to rally that valley. But the 1335 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 2: thing that threw me off when I was like trying 1336 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 2: to type this in my notes, there's no E. 1337 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 4: In Valley r A L. L. 1338 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 2: E way. I kept typing like a fool because Valley 1339 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 2: has one. Anyway, JD. I know you love the Valley. 1340 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: I love it. 1341 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 2: I love val number one, our number one shirt. It's 1342 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Oh, they put three wolves on their shirt. 1343 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 2: It says we're all raised by wolves on it. It's 1344 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 2: all black and white. Even the Timberwolves logo very subtle, 1345 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 2: to the point where they put it on one of 1346 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,919 Speaker 2: the wolves in the foreground and I had to zoom 1347 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 2: in to see if they were doing that thing like 1348 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 2: where you hold up a record cover to where the 1349 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 2: photo was taken and it blends in perfectly. I thought 1350 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 2: that's what the wolf was doing on its leg. It's 1351 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 2: just a wolve's logo. The saying is weird, we're all 1352 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 2: raised by wolves, but I like that they put we're 1353 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 2: all very small, so raised by wolves looks big. This 1354 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,799 Speaker 2: just looks like a shirt you could buy that happens 1355 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 2: to be a timber Wolf shirt. It seems like a 1356 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 2: shirt that you'd wear. 1357 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 4: JD. Not offending you by any means, i'd wear it 1358 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 4: as well, but I like it. I like it. 1359 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 1: It's this is the best of them all, I would, 1360 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 1: so I agree with you, hikay nice. I don't know what, 1361 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: why do you need? We're all raised by wolves. 1362 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 5: Is cooler, and it does have vibes of like, you know, 1363 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 5: one of those cheesy sweaters you see on awkward family photos. 1364 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a wolf sweater or T shirt. But yeah, 1365 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 1: i'd wear this. 1366 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very reminiscent of like the famous three wolf 1367 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 2: moon Well, yes, which surely was the inspiration. But I 1368 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 2: think they nailed it, so I guess we'll see those 1369 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 2: on the bench as well. Those are your what seventeen shirts? 1370 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 2: I think we ended up at. I guess eighteen if 1371 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 2: you include that weird Grizzlies one. But yeah, Lakers fans 1372 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 2: are saying we've got such a legacy, we don't need 1373 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 2: to do T shirts. 1374 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 4: Too good for it. I like that. 1375 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Tell that to the Celtics. They did a T shirt. 1376 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 2: They did two T shirts. They put a number on it. 1377 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: They like, they put a number on both of them. 1378 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 2: Was one one was on the eighteen? Wasn't it is? 1379 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Stay tuned after the break. It's that 1380 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 2: sea block we've been talking about back with no dunks. 1381 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 4: The vibes are good in here. 1382 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 2: The vibes are good with the stream team again. They're 1383 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 2: feeling a lot more joy after that last segment talking shirts. 1384 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 2: People just wanted to talk shirts, not chests, the thing 1385 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 2: that goes on your chest. It's time for tweet of 1386 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 2: the night. 1387 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 4: Treed over now. Wow, I'm not sure how excited the 1388 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 4: stream the podcast listeners will be with this tweet, because 1389 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 4: will they be excited with an in season tournament? 1390 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,559 Speaker 1: Is here? 1391 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 4: It is real? More details from Adrian Wojanowski and Bobby Marx. 1392 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 4: The tournament, which starts next year, is expected to include quarterfinals, semifinals, 1393 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 4: and finals in early December. That's when it's happening within 1394 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:30,839 Speaker 4: the season. Woj and Bobby then break down the winnings 1395 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 4: because there's prize money five hundred k per player on 1396 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 4: the winning team. But there's more. You also went two 1397 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 4: hundred k per player on the runner up, one hundred 1398 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,360 Speaker 4: thousand if you're a semifinal loser, and fifty thousand per 1399 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 4: quarterfinal loser. I like how I wotrote that? 1400 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that was like, at least for me 1401 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 2: on Twitter, My first comment that I saw as a 1402 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 2: response was a mere blueman field. 1403 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,639 Speaker 4: Ask me too, say fifty k per loser loser twenty 1404 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 4: five K per loser. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is like 1405 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 4: five cents for most of these players. For some of 1406 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 4: these players, winning five hundred k is humongous. It's actually 1407 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 4: bigger than their salary if you win this thing. 1408 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely for like the lower two ways, less 1409 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 2: are known players on the on the bench for sure, 1410 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 2: the way we making multiples of their entire contract. But 1411 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,600 Speaker 2: for the best players on the team, that's like a 1412 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 2: game check. 1413 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 4: It's five hundred K for a w but I don't know, 1414 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 4: it's happening. 1415 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 2: It's happening, And the play in tournament has been awesome 1416 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,560 Speaker 2: and definitely a win for the league. I thought this 1417 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 2: year was maybe the most entertaining that the games have 1418 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 2: actually been, So I'll give a benefit of the doubt 1419 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 2: to this in season tournament, especially because the first few 1420 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 2: months of the season it's like very exciting. The first 1421 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 2: month everybody's playing again, We're getting to see the new teams, 1422 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 2: how everybody looks. I then there's definitely a lull in 1423 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 2: the middle part of the season before we get to 1424 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 2: the stretch run, and maybe this will spice things up 1425 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 2: a little bit in December, but it's all going to 1426 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 2: be a matter of do the big name players treat 1427 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 2: these games just as seriously as they do a play 1428 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 2: in game, which they treat like a playoff game. For sure, 1429 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 2: and we've definitely seen the differences in the regular season 1430 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 2: and the postseason this year. It is quite dramatic. I 1431 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 2: wonder if in season tournament this early in the year 1432 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 2: is going to be more like regular season basketball. 1433 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 4: I assume so, yeah, totally. They obviously waited where they 1434 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 4: put this in terms of ratings, in terms of fan 1435 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 4: interaction with the league over all, I'm sure they're checking 1436 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 4: the socials. I thought it would be more of a 1437 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 4: January thing because it'd be more sure. The lull feels 1438 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 4: more real for us because I guess we were high 1439 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:52,800 Speaker 4: until December until Christmas. But that's how it all factored out. 1440 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 4: I'm sure for the National Basketball Association, the money, not 1441 01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,919 Speaker 4: only for the players, is coming in from the sponsor. 1442 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 4: You are positive, that's wonderful. You're relating it to the 1443 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 4: to the play in tournament. I don't know if I've 1444 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 4: just become more American from being here, and I just 1445 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 4: can't see this soccer thing working, this idea working now. 1446 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 4: It's kind of working in the WNBA with the Commissioner's Cup. 1447 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 4: There is excitement around that. When it comes to their season, 1448 01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 4: players play for it. It's on the schedule. I still 1449 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 4: am a little confused as to how these games work 1450 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 4: because they're part of the regular season except for the 1451 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 4: championship game, which would mean if you're in that game, 1452 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 4: you're playing an eighty third game, but the rest of 1453 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 4: them are regular season games. If I'm not mistaken, I 1454 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 4: think that's correct. We're gonna need a follow up tweet, 1455 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 4: but I think that's how it works. I think somehow, 1456 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 4: these quarterfinals, semifinals, it's not just a tournament. In addition, 1457 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 4: all these like if they. 1458 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,559 Speaker 2: Count, You're right, they count as games as well. That's 1459 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 2: how the w does it, and that's how the G 1460 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,600 Speaker 2: League does it as well. When they do what is it, 1461 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 2: they're G League Showcase or whatever. The games count as 1462 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 2: regular season games, but they also count and these other 1463 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 2: standings as well. So yeah, I wonder how they will 1464 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 2: do the championship game kind of stuff, and the whole 1465 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 2: and the whole thing and finding the stats. Finding the 1466 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 2: stats will be hilarious, of course. 1467 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if those stats will exist, but 1468 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 4: it's great. You trust in Adam. Adam has always always 1469 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 4: always believed that that that model, the football model, would work, 1470 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 4: And here we are. I guess you gotta give them 1471 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 4: a little benefit of the doubt. 1472 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. 1473 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 4: At least we'll see how it goes. Really if if 1474 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,599 Speaker 4: if let's say I didn't even know that this mid 1475 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 4: season tournament existed, I just go into next year wearing 1476 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 4: my twenty twenty three playoff shirt getting all excited, and 1477 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 4: these games happen, because that's that's to me, that's how 1478 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 4: they're sort of going to feel like these games are 1479 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 4: kind of happening in the background like they do in 1480 01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 4: the WY They kind of they're listed neath the score 1481 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 4: schedule as a tournament game, but it's part of the 1482 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,719 Speaker 4: regular season. I would be like, Okay, they're they're games, 1483 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 4: but they're part of this tournament. I would just I 1484 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't even I wouldn't even really notice, because I do think, 1485 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 4: like you said, they're gonna treat them sort of like 1486 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 4: regular season case. But maybe the championship game will have 1487 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 4: a have some you're playing for five hundred K for 1488 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 4: a lot of these guys. Maybe you're playing for your 1489 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 4: two way guy, or you're your twelve thirteenth guy that's 1490 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 4: sort of on his way out of lead or just 1491 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 4: got into Lee or whatever. So that one kind of 1492 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 4: seems like it has a little bit of juice. You're 1493 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 4: just more optimistic than I am about this. I've i've 1494 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 4: I'm always buying into the NBA, just what they're selling. 1495 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 2: I just want my team to win a championship. Test. 1496 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 2: I guess your team has won a championship recently. It's 1497 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 2: been twenty five years. For my team, they did get 1498 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 2: a summer league championship once upon a time. And if 1499 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 2: the Bulls an NCASON Tournament, absolutely I will be showing 1500 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,800 Speaker 2: off my n Sason Tournament champion shirt here on this 1501 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 2: very show and ranking the n c's and tournament shirts 1502 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 2: for all the rest of the teams as well. 1503 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to make enough money 1504 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 4: to pump out enough to pump out shirts for well. 1505 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 2: They gotta pay. They gotta pay every player five hundred 1506 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, so. 1507 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 4: They got to make a lot. They're making money. 1508 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 2: They got to look really good. 1509 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 4: They're making money. And this is definitely about Dalla dollar bills. Yeah, 1510 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 4: about the sponsors paying. In early December, when do these 1511 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 4: games happen exactly. I'm intrigued pre Christmas, pre Christmas, from December. 1512 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 2: First championship on Christmas. They would never, but that'd be cool. 1513 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 2: It'd also be hilarious if a team decides to hang 1514 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 2: a banner for this, right, Yeah, it's got to be 1515 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 2: like the ones we had for like worst of the year, 1516 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 2: smaller banner. Camp can't be championship size banner, A little 1517 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 2: tiny one final. 1518 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 4: Those are decent size. If you go back to our 1519 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 4: starter studio, I thought. 1520 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 2: Those are good. Look, those are good banners for our studio. 1521 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 2: You're right, but not for a twenty thousand person. 1522 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 4: Stadium's right up there. Yeah, it's one of those things 1523 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,640 Speaker 4: that there's a perception problem like that. You see those 1524 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,639 Speaker 4: banners up in stadiums. How big are they really? 1525 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 2: Possible to know? I always assumed the size of a 1526 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 2: person size blanket. Yeah, big enough to sleep under. Yeah, man, 1527 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 2: that'd be so cool to sleep underneath a championship flag. 1528 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 2: Put on the bucket list. I didn't know that was 1529 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 2: the thing. It's on my bucket list now. 1530 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 4: Making a blanket. Make those blankets like a banner blanket 1531 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 4: banner blankets dot com slash no duck done forty. You're 1532 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 4: in season championship banner. It's it's weird, like you're taking 1533 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 4: fanatic to a weird level just sleeping with that thing. 1534 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,639 Speaker 2: A man, If I could get a ninety eight championship blanket, 1535 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 2: that's awesome. Bowls championship blanket. I'm going to look that 1536 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 2: up after the show, you know, and also during the show. 1537 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 4: You know who's living the life. 1538 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 5: J E. 1539 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,640 Speaker 4: Skeets just got those sweet life tickets. He'll be in 1540 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,599 Speaker 4: a suite hey for a game two. 1541 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,800 Speaker 2: Man, that's how you do a seguey test. Baby, Let's 1542 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 2: talk about some game twos tonight. We got three of 1543 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,760 Speaker 2: them on the schedule. It's our first stagger night of 1544 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 2: the postseason. The Hawks are in Boston for Game two 1545 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 2: that'll be on NBA TV at seven pm Eastern. The 1546 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 2: Knicks and the Cavs have their Game two in Cleveland. 1547 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,080 Speaker 2: That's on TNT at seven thirty pm Eastern. Than the 1548 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 2: late game tonight, it's Clippers at Suns, also on TNT 1549 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,719 Speaker 2: ten pm Eastern. Yeah, right, more like ten thirty pm Eastern. 1550 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 2: We're being quite honest, So, tess, what do you think's 1551 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 2: most likely to even series tonight? Who are you watching for? 1552 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 2: What are you looking for in a bunch of pivotal 1553 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 2: game twos. 1554 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,519 Speaker 4: Well, we're not starting with Atlanta Boston. 1555 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't think so. 1556 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,599 Speaker 4: No, we're not starting with That's not doesn't feel pivot. 1557 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,559 Speaker 4: It's pivotal for the Hawks. But low key, I want 1558 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,560 Speaker 4: a better game in Cleveland. I know I've been a 1559 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,600 Speaker 4: bit of a Cleveland backer, so that's part of it, 1560 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 4: and there's no doubt, But also low key, this game 1561 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 4: was terrible. It kind of flew under the radar because 1562 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 4: there was eight games over the weekend, but there was 1563 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,719 Speaker 4: a lot of poor performances in this game from both sides, 1564 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 4: and the Knicks got a victory with Quickly not hitting 1565 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 4: a field goal and Grimes only hitting one shot and 1566 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,839 Speaker 4: Randall not being great. On the other side, the Calves 1567 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 4: you could hit a free throw or two more, and 1568 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 4: there were some poor performances from Kroslovert, Ricky Rubio, Dean Wade. 1569 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 4: We talked about them missing a lot of shots, but 1570 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 4: Evan Mobley is a guy I'm watching for in that game. 1571 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 4: He is just too good to be clanking shots from 1572 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,160 Speaker 4: three four feet. He's just throwing it up on the 1573 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 4: rim and maybe nerves in his first postseason game. But 1574 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 4: I want an even series. There's no doubt. I want 1575 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 4: this to go long, and I expect it to go along. 1576 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 4: I just think that there was something going on there 1577 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 4: in the water in Cleveland that Mobley's got to be 1578 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 4: able to finish better than that. He was the worst 1579 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,839 Speaker 4: of all. It felt like, even though he hit some shots, 1580 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,559 Speaker 4: he was just he was clanking. So that series obviously 1581 01:19:53,640 --> 01:20:01,080 Speaker 4: exciting Trey for me as a calves man A, it's 1582 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 4: exciting just period, because it still is a coin flip. 1583 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 4: As I mean, it seemed like it was a clear 1584 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 4: cut win for the Knicks when looking back because the 1585 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 4: cast played so poorly, but the Knicks played poorly too. 1586 01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 4: I do think this should be a long series. 1587 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, this seemed like a very tight series coming in 1588 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 2: Game one. Seems like it's still going to be a 1589 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,599 Speaker 2: tight series with a lot of these games coming down 1590 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 2: to clutch time. The difference in Game one is that 1591 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 2: the Knicks had two people who could do something in 1592 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 2: the clutch. It was mostly Jalen Brunson, but prior to 1593 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 2: that it was Julius Randall. He had a really nice 1594 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 2: game when he started going a little bit Haywire. Brunson 1595 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 2: settled it down, got good shots and allowed Randall to 1596 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,799 Speaker 2: focus on just making other plays. Had that huge offensive rebound. 1597 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, the Cavs are going to need somebody else 1598 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 2: to step up alongside Donovan Mitchell. It's got to be 1599 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 2: either Bumbly or it's got to be Garland. Both those 1600 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,679 Speaker 2: guys had a pretty poor fourth quarter in Game number one. 1601 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 2: What I wanted to ask you about the task, I said, 1602 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,600 Speaker 2: let's circle back in the C block. We might be 1603 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 2: talking refs tomorrow. We very well might be talking refs 1604 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 2: tomorrow because Scott Foster is refereeing Chris Paul in the 1605 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,200 Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns tonight in their matchup against the Los Angeles Clippers. 1606 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Clippers won game one behind a great performance from Kawhi Leonard. 1607 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 2: They got really solid contributions from their bench. But Chris 1608 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,719 Speaker 2: Paul and Scott Foster, they have a long running beef. 1609 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 2: Chris Paul doesn't win a lot of games when Scott 1610 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 2: Foster is officiating. This has got to be a must 1611 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 2: win for Phoenix, though it looked like they were a 1612 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 2: little bit out of their element playing against the best 1613 01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,320 Speaker 2: team they faced thus far. It looked like they had 1614 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 2: only played eight games together prior and didn't necessarily know 1615 01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 2: the best way to go about getting their shots. So 1616 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 2: I wonder if there will be foul concerns to deal with. 1617 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 2: But more importantly, I want to see if Kevin Durant 1618 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,360 Speaker 2: takes over in the fourth quarter because he was too 1619 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 2: much of a bystander in Game one. 1620 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 4: For me. 1621 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,400 Speaker 2: A lot of the reason was that Kawhi Leonard was 1622 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 2: playing Dion Sanders defense on him, making it so he 1623 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,840 Speaker 2: couldn't catch the ball, but they were doing the same 1624 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 2: to Kwi on the other end. He got the ball, 1625 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 2: so there are ways to do it. Get Katie to 1626 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 2: the ball, let him cook, and let's see if he's 1627 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,360 Speaker 2: able to pull out a clutch win for Phoenix against 1628 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 2: LA And I don't think it'll also be interesting to 1629 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 2: start to see who is the fifth starter for Phoenix tonight. 1630 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 2: Tory Craig had a nice run in Game one, but 1631 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,599 Speaker 2: the bench had nothing with him moving into the starting lineup, 1632 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,759 Speaker 2: So maybe a Kogi goes back into the starting lineup. 1633 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:24,360 Speaker 2: We shall see. 1634 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,560 Speaker 4: I totally think that there's two things you can do 1635 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,840 Speaker 4: to get the maximum familiarity with that roster that they 1636 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 4: haven't had just because they've only played eight games together. 1637 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,360 Speaker 4: It's put back Josh Kogi into the starting lineup. I 1638 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 4: think that why change your fifth guy pre series? Because 1639 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 4: I understand the idea of trying to guard Kawhi Leonard. 1640 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 4: He's a better one on one defender than Josh Kogi, 1641 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 4: but a Kogi's energy, the familiar just the fact that 1642 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 4: you got the camaraderie there, the offensive rebounding, even though 1643 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 4: Craig had a great game. I think that's one, and 1644 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:03,680 Speaker 4: then Chris Paul two, Nut Scott Foster related. Just give 1645 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 4: him the ball, Just give him the ball more. I 1646 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,640 Speaker 4: think Kevin Durant can just work off the ball a 1647 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 4: little bit more like he has through those first eight games. 1648 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,320 Speaker 4: I think the familiarity with Chris Paul just having the ball. 1649 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,920 Speaker 4: I think they're playing a little too much Iso ball 1650 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,599 Speaker 4: and Durant was doing really well to feed his guys. 1651 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 4: Eleven assists and Chris Paul has a decent line when 1652 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 4: it comes down to it, he also double digit assists. 1653 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 4: But it wasn't him starting plays a lot of the time. 1654 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 4: A lot of the time it was Durant and they 1655 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,519 Speaker 4: were doubling, and whether it was Choir or whoever, they 1656 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 4: got the ball out of his hands, and so that's 1657 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 4: why Kevin Durant wasn't as effective. He didn't have a 1658 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 4: monster game. So get back to what you are and 1659 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 4: we'll see what the Clippers can do to to continue 1660 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 4: to run it down the Sun's throats, which was really entertaining. 1661 01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,080 Speaker 4: They feel like they have the deeper team, so their 1662 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 4: bench comes in and plays fast. That's why Westbrook exists 1663 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,599 Speaker 4: on this team. They thought he would be a change 1664 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 4: of pace guy in the starting lineup, but even the 1665 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 4: bench came in and was really running. And that's what 1666 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 4: the Hawks have to do. If we're gonna talk about 1667 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 4: that game a little bit, the n b A TV 1668 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 4: game is another game. Yeah, the early one that we'll 1669 01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 4: be watching separately in our own homes, not on playback. Uh. 1670 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 4: I do think the Hawks have to that. That's that's 1671 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 4: the way they win. Their Their bench has to beat 1672 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,600 Speaker 4: the Celtics bench. They thought and should think that they 1673 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 4: have an advantage there, even though the Celtics are deep. 1674 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,640 Speaker 4: They got to win somewhere offensive boards and uh, you know, 1675 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 4: getting getting some Sadik bay More shots. I know the 1676 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 4: Celtics are doing a good job of taking that away 1677 01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 4: because when it comes to the bench of Bay A Kongu, 1678 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson and Bogdanovich. They're they they're picking, they're picking 1679 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 4: the right guys. They're allowing Jalen Johnson to shoot. But 1680 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 4: they gotta, they gotta. The Hawks have to find a 1681 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 4: way to play fast, get boards and get base some shots. 1682 01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a tough mix to play fast 1683 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,719 Speaker 2: and get boards. Because the play fast, you don't play Cappella. 1684 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 2: He looks like the slowest guy on the court, and 1685 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 2: I thought that was a problem in Game one for 1686 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 2: the Hawks. He's also one of the best offensive rebounders 1687 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 2: in the game, so maybe he gets the start tonight. 1688 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a pretty short 1689 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 2: run for Capella and if maybe they go to bay 1690 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 2: in the starting lineup alongside John Collins and just try 1691 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 2: to out quick the Celtics. I don't know if it 1692 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 2: would work, but the Hawks got to find a way 1693 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 2: to get more three pointers up. They went five of 1694 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 2: twenty nine in the first game. Not enough makes obviously, 1695 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 2: only five, but not nearly enough attempts to beat a 1696 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,840 Speaker 2: Celtics team that wants to chuck. So we'll see what 1697 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 2: the Hawks have in store. Hopefully it's not a blowout again, 1698 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 2: or if it is a blowout, that it's over in 1699 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 2: the first half like it was the last time. So 1700 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:43,799 Speaker 2: we shall see. That's for tonight. 1701 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 4: Three games were. 1702 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 2: Here tonight and we'll talk about them all tomorrow on 1703 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 2: No Dunks at ten a m. Eastern. 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No, Yes, the subs are ticking up, 1712 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 4: ticking up, tasty subs. 1713 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 2: And if we're talking subs, you could order a sub 1714 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 2: from the Athletic at the athletic dot com slash No 1715 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 2: Dunks for one dollar ninety nine cents per month. You 1716 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,280 Speaker 2: can listen to this podcast ad free. You will never 1717 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 2: hear another person say the word. 1718 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:36,800 Speaker 4: Ship station. 1719 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what I. 1720 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 4: Did ads for this week. Yeah, just the generic word 1721 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,679 Speaker 4: of promo you'll never hear a promo again. 1722 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 2: If you want, subscribe at the Athletic dot com slash 1723 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,120 Speaker 2: no duns. We're back at ten am tomorrow. You got 1724 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 2: a baseball show tomorrow? 1725 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,519 Speaker 4: Is that right? Yes? Baby, It's been a great week 1726 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 4: to start a great couple of weeks to start the season. 1727 01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,559 Speaker 4: We're also going to be talking about beer sales. They're 1728 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 4: extending beer sales in baseball in a lot of stadiums 1729 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,599 Speaker 4: because the games are going quicker with the new rules. 1730 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 4: So instead of cutting people off at the seventh inning, 1731 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,360 Speaker 4: they say, oh, let's just extend it. Make some more 1732 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 4: money because we're not selling as much, which was a 1733 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 4: concern coming in, and it's it's happening. Anyways. We're we 1734 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 4: have a beer expert coming in in studios. Oh seb Winkler, 1735 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 4: the Terrapin tap Room brewmaster is a brewmaster, Bruce. He's 1736 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 4: a master of Bruce Bruce. We we're gonna be talking Coulshous, 1737 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 4: We're going to be talking Dunkles, but we're going to 1738 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 4: be talking loggers. We're gonna be talking Pilsners, and that's 1739 01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,240 Speaker 4: about it. We'll probably run out there. But he makes 1740 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 4: all of those beers and he will be here and 1741 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,559 Speaker 4: he's better bring some away. 1742 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 2: He ain't showing up empty handed. 1743 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 4: It'll be early in the morning, so I don't plan 1744 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 4: on drinking them. We recorded eight fifteen The Athletic Baseball 1745 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 4: Show Feed. There may be a growler on the table? 1746 01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:00,040 Speaker 2: Who a growler on the table? Colin Springsteen because this 1747 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,040 Speaker 2: man Bruce. 1748 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,759 Speaker 4: He does he does Clipper Brost. 1749 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1750 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 2: love you guys. 1751 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Awesome. 1752 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, thanks for joining us everybody, and remembers another 1753 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:18,759 Speaker 4: great day for Canadians in the basketball world yesterday. Wiggins 1754 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 4: starting to look like himself. Jay Triano doing incredible coaching 1755 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 4: on the King's Bench, Jay Skeet's completing the Boston Marathon. 1756 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 4: He's in basketball and Siri it so he killer podcast 1757 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 4: on the Ringer as well. Good At, Good At with 1758 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,639 Speaker 4: Michael Pina Yip awesome. Who's not Canadian? I don't think, 1759 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 4: but I don't care. 1760 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:41,960 Speaker 2: Seems like he's from Texas. Doesn't praise the day