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Speaker 2: Our number two of the drive here on campus where
Speaker 2: the tarp is finally all rolled out over the field. Now, Matt,
Speaker 2: they put some weights on this thing. I always love
Speaker 2: like all the different stuff that they used to weigh
Speaker 2: the tarp down. Yeah, Like they'll drive a couple of
Speaker 2: carts out there, They'll put some whatever, some tackling dummies,
Speaker 2: whatever you can find. I'm surprised, uh that you know
Speaker 2: that they're not asking us to bring the com recks
Speaker 2: are broadcast machine down there, as as our guy Stephen
Speaker 2: Finnerty of the video department is now walking up the
Speaker 2: bleachers here to grab some stuff. Steven, do I need
Speaker 2: to put his age out there? That might be kind of.
Speaker 3: Well, he just turned a magic number.
Speaker 2: He just had a birthday a couple of hours and
Speaker 2: it's it's a number that's not half a century. Yes,
Speaker 2: there you go, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 2: It's the number that Ryan Shazier used to wear. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they got him out there pulling tarps and stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, he's got his seniority at this point.
Speaker 2: Big shout out to Stephen for doing his part. And
Speaker 2: the entire crew out there now. They're putting sleds and
Speaker 2: dummies and carts and everything that they can find concerned.
Speaker 3: So we have three tarps out there. All three of
Speaker 3: them are different sizes on one another. Look like that
Speaker 3: left of the long edges all the same all these areas.
Speaker 2: Look at Irish Craig's pointing up at us. He's like,
Speaker 2: place up the cross.
Speaker 3: But I wonder about the seams. There has to be
Speaker 3: a lot of water that gets in between these, I
Speaker 3: would think, because they don't overlap at all.
Speaker 2: I would think so.
Speaker 3: And then not only do they not overlap, they don't
Speaker 3: quite reach one hundred and twenty yards. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: like five yards in the back of the left end
Speaker 3: zone that are totally uncovered.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. The one back end zone, as you're right,
Speaker 2: about five yards not covered. Other than that, most of
Speaker 2: everything else is covered. But there is, as you mentioned correctly,
Speaker 2: there's a few little holes in the tarp.
Speaker 3: Of course. And then and that's something I get the
Speaker 3: live with. There's gonna be a hole here.
Speaker 2: Sure, and then there's some seams that aren't maybe as
Speaker 2: tightly compacted as you want them. But I will also
Speaker 2: say though that I'm sure anything is better than just
Speaker 2: letting a torrential downpour happen. His Matt's knocking trying to hey,
Speaker 2: rolling stones, can't you hear me? Knock it? Everybody? Yeah? Oh,
Speaker 2: I wish we were live streaming this right now. I
Speaker 2: wish TV had this on video right now. This would
Speaker 2: be fantastic. Guys Alec and Jason from video or walking
Speaker 2: over here, we'll see see if see if we can
Speaker 2: get their attention.
Speaker 3: To I definitely want to get Alex's attention.
Speaker 2: Jason's laughing. Oh man, working hard or hardly working.
Speaker 3: A lot of those guys are avid drive drive listeners,
Speaker 3: so they'll be uh, they'll get their credit. This is
Speaker 3: their moment, this is their moment of glory.
Speaker 2: Well done, Well done, gentlemen. Four and a half gold
Speaker 2: stars for every one of you. We'll see you Sharky's later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll buy you a cold one for there's somebody
Speaker 3: should buy for giving us some content.
Speaker 2: Dude, the best is all right, real quick, and then
Speaker 2: we'll and then we'll get into some fantasy football focus
Speaker 2: here for the four and a half hour if we
Speaker 2: have to. But this is tarp Nation Radio, after all,
Speaker 2: everyone I think knows or at least anyone that's ever
Speaker 2: been to a football practice or youth football or anything
Speaker 2: that's still down here banging on the glass trying to
Speaker 2: get everybody's in.
Speaker 3: They slow to get up these steps. Man, he's another
Speaker 3: one a little older than the rest.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 2: This is like the equivalent to me of like sitting
Speaker 2: front row at a hockey game and like the players
Speaker 2: are out there warming up and you're trying to bang
Speaker 2: on the glass. Hey, hey, hey, come here, look at me.
Speaker 2: Looks like what's the matter when the penalty box. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we open this window right here, is this thing slide open? Hey,
Speaker 2: make sure you listen to the drive later. We're talking
Speaker 2: about all you guys right now. How good a job
Speaker 2: you're doing. We love the video guys there. We spend
Speaker 2: We spend a lot of time with those guys, this time.
Speaker 3: Every Thursday with them. Yeah, they're good dudes.
Speaker 2: And putting in some some real graft, some real work
Speaker 2: down there to get these these tarps all rolled out
Speaker 2: over the last man, they were at it for about
Speaker 2: seventy minutes, dragged little over.
Speaker 3: An hour would be a much worse shape by I
Speaker 3: need I need oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, power raide, and I need some electrolytes and a
Speaker 2: nap after all that. I do love how they're we
Speaker 2: got everything out there, Matt. I know it's not blocking sled.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's even a term for it.
Speaker 2: But again, anyone who's ever been to a football practice,
Speaker 2: even if it's youth football, you know those things that
Speaker 2: they use for offensive linemen to work to stay low.
Speaker 3: They come out of the shoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got the shoot dragged out onto the field.
Speaker 3: All these there's a lot of tackling dummies.
Speaker 2: Are tackling dummies one, two, three, four, follow the seven, eight,
Speaker 2: nine different carts that are out on the tarp.
Speaker 3: They can pull the Portageohn's out there.
Speaker 2: They might, they might. They've got the Catorade big Gatorade
Speaker 2: machine on wheels that's out there. This is pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I know, by the way. The skies are getting dirt.
Speaker 2: Yes they are. They get a little ominous, Matt. When
Speaker 2: you and I are out of here in about what
Speaker 2: an hour and forty five minutes or so, I have
Speaker 2: a feeling and drink. I have a feeling you and
Speaker 2: I are getting drenched. Walking back to the car.
Speaker 3: You might have to find one of the garbage bags
Speaker 3: at the bottom of steps. Oh not a bad move, right,
Speaker 3: That's a real good movie later just drenched.
Speaker 2: There's also a little storage room back there in the corner.
Speaker 2: I wonder if maybe we couldn't borrow, borrow I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna steal it. I wonder if we could borrow an umbrella.
Speaker 2: We'll bring it back tomorrow, exactly right, Matt. We earlier
Speaker 2: in camp did some fantasy football like beware do not
Speaker 2: draft list stuff. Yeah, yeah, you know, and not to
Speaker 2: say that those guys are bad players shouldn't be on
Speaker 2: a fantasy team, but guys that are gonna be overdrafted potentially.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the other side of that equation right
Speaker 2: now and guys that are going to be under We're.
Speaker 3: Starting to really get some target players the last couple
Speaker 3: of days.
Speaker 2: To start with the quarterbacks. We'll go through the positions here.
Speaker 2: Few quarterback names listed on here. Number one is brock Party.
Speaker 3: Always underrated. He was the He scrambles more than you think,
Speaker 3: he runs more than you think. They they throw a
Speaker 3: lot of touchdowns, like as good as McCaffrey is, a
Speaker 3: lot of his touchdowns are exceptions. Yeah, and now he's
Speaker 3: got Evans and you know, a full slate of you know,
Speaker 3: pretty good weapons. They all have some kind of question
Speaker 3: or age or injury issue. But that offense always puts
Speaker 3: up points. And I was guilty of it earlier his career.
Speaker 3: He's just a better player than everybody realizes. He's not
Speaker 3: a cute story because he was mister irrelevant. He's a
Speaker 3: good quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you can get a pretty cheap you sure can't.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, just two years ago he was the
Speaker 2: number six fantasy football quarterback and uh and has some
Speaker 2: really great targets and they throw the football a ton
Speaker 2: Who are you trying to distract down there?
Speaker 3: And I was bugging the three video guys who are
Speaker 3: buds here on the left. So they're dragging the.
Speaker 2: Just they just needed some air, yeah, before they low
Speaker 2: And then they have to take another set of stairs,
Speaker 2: another set of stairs up to the dorm. And so
Speaker 2: they're like stopping halfway for a lie down. They're just
Speaker 2: admiring their work. Matt number two on this list for quarterbacks, they're.
Speaker 3: Actually bailing out. I mean, there's still work to be
Speaker 3: done down there.
Speaker 2: It's true, they could be. They could be dragging some
Speaker 2: dragging some of these tackling dummies.
Speaker 3: Backling dummy from like one hundred yards away, drag that
Speaker 3: thing over here and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what, when we get back here tonight in
Speaker 2: the middle of the downpour, we might have to pour
Speaker 2: some soap on that tarp and just slipid and slide.
Speaker 2: Saint Vincent Baby. Number two on this list is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: I have mixed feelings. I mean, in some ways he
Speaker 3: gets overdrafted because he's such a great player. He hasn't
Speaker 3: been a good fantasy player for I mean a top
Speaker 3: fantasy player for quite some time.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of the argument here, is that like
Speaker 2: he's gonna be underdrafted because he's coming off the injury.
Speaker 3: And that's very possible. I mean, the fantasy community's caught
Speaker 3: up that he's not a top five quarterback anymore. And
Speaker 3: if you notice he really wisely saves his legs and
Speaker 3: is running for the playoffs. I mean that's when he
Speaker 3: really runs a lot during the regular season. He's smart
Speaker 3: and understands, and he's also coming off an injury. But
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna become much more of a run
Speaker 3: first team. I keep moving Kenneth Walker up my list
Speaker 3: in the running back list more and more. And I
Speaker 3: don't like Mahomes' receivers, so he's not really for me,
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure I can get in on that one.
Speaker 3: Then again, he could win the MVP, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: he might throw forty five touchdowns to win the MVP
Speaker 3: and just be the best player on the planet.
Speaker 2: Our buddy Alec from the grounds crew just texted me
Speaker 2: and said, how are your guys soft hands doing up there?
Speaker 3: We played by played it.
Speaker 2: Listen, brother I've been saying this for the last hour.
Speaker 2: This is why I got into broadcasting, so I didn't
Speaker 2: have to do manual labor lions. Jared Goff number three
Speaker 2: on the list.
Speaker 3: Another one perennially underrated. I mean, I am he's rostered in.
Speaker 2: Like fifty percent of leagues last year, and that's about it.
Speaker 3: I mean he I always, always, always am going to
Speaker 3: push for the running backs that run, but like, here's
Speaker 3: the ar quarterbacks. The quarterbacks run. I apologize we're a
Speaker 3: little distracted with them.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in front of us, and
Speaker 2: some tornado clouds rolling in matt This could be the
Speaker 2: most interesting day of camp so far.
Speaker 3: But I think Matthew Stafford ended up as like the
Speaker 3: second or third best quarterback in the league in terms
Speaker 3: of fantasy points and didn't run one bit because he
Speaker 3: threw forty five touchdowns or whatever it was. And Goff
Speaker 3: probably as good a bet as anyone to lead the
Speaker 3: league in touchdown passes this year. So what's interesting to
Speaker 3: me is, like you see all these lists and all
Speaker 3: these fantasy experts, and I think they're collectively very smart,
Speaker 3: But like Joe Burrow is going as like the fourth
Speaker 3: quarterback off the off the board behind like Lamar and
Speaker 3: May of course Josh Allen, and that makes sense because
Speaker 3: he throws a ton and he's a really good player
Speaker 3: and he's awesome receivers, but he's not a runner. And
Speaker 3: a lot of the smart analysts will be like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take the albatrosh version of him and
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott or Jared Goff that you get like ten
Speaker 3: rounds cheaper, but could throw as many touchdowns and as many.
Speaker 2: Yards as Burrow and it's like a stock price, right.
Speaker 3: I Mean, they're awesome offenses, they're really good quarterbacks, so
Speaker 3: there really isn't that much of a difference between those guys.
Speaker 3: If you're not gonna run the.
Speaker 2: Last one, it won't hurt you.
Speaker 3: Yeff got your quarterback chance, sorry, will throw a lot
Speaker 3: of touchdowns and body yards.
Speaker 2: And you could probably get them handful of rounds later
Speaker 2: than some of those. Yeah. Yeah. And then the last
Speaker 2: ones that are like late round you know, take a
Speaker 2: chance on this guy need late Kyler, Murray Tyler Shuck
Speaker 2: and milk willis hilarious.
Speaker 3: Those are the three that I'm gonna end up with
Speaker 3: the most.
Speaker 2: Those are the ones you're trying to find.
Speaker 3: They're because they're super late.
Speaker 2: Are about Willis though, just because what's around him?
Speaker 3: But he does run big time. But he also I
Speaker 3: think is the best running quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 3: It's such a tiny sample size. I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take him and Kyler.
Speaker 2: He's not going to be the only starting here Matt
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 3: But his rushing potential is just astronomical. And if you
Speaker 3: look at him and again, tiny tiny sample size, at
Speaker 3: like fantasy points per snap, he's like Josh Allen esque
Speaker 3: because he does throw and his receiver stink. But also
Speaker 3: garbage time can't be ignored either. I mean, like when
Speaker 3: they're losing by thirty in the fourth quarter, he may
Speaker 3: give you Anxtra one hundred and twenty five yards. Sure
Speaker 3: you know, you know it's.
Speaker 2: A really good right.
Speaker 3: Oh man, everyone's done this. You're sitting there looking at
Speaker 3: fantasy squad and like, man, he has like eight points
Speaker 3: through three quarters and the Dolphins are getting destroyed and
Speaker 3: they're never on the field. Then he finishes a game
Speaker 3: with like twenty eight points and they still lose by
Speaker 3: a million. Who cares?
Speaker 2: But who cares for fantasy football purposes? That's actually sometimes
Speaker 2: the best way for it to play out. It is
Speaker 2: playing out with some rain here. It is starting still
Speaker 2: a light rain right now.
Speaker 3: That's about to pick up.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna pick up heavily, Matt. I want
Speaker 2: to continue this fantasy football focus exercise when we return.
Speaker 2: I want to get into the wide receivers and the
Speaker 2: running backs and the tight ends. I don't want to
Speaker 2: short change that here in this segment. So we will
Speaker 2: take a break now and talk a little more fantasy
Speaker 2: football when we return, a lot of moving and shaking
Speaker 2: on campus, a lot of different ground to cover here
Speaker 2: on the show. West Huler, Matt Williamson. It's the drive.
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Speaker 2: Well, folks, the weather has certainly changed here since we
Speaker 2: went to break a few minutes ago. Matt, it is
Speaker 2: coming down now. The dark clouds are rolling in, the
Speaker 2: rain is pouring down, and you and I my friend
Speaker 2: are gonna get absolutely soaked walking out of here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: about ninety minutes. Yeah, it's about a it's not far,
Speaker 2: but it's still probably about a what a five six
Speaker 2: seven minute walk down to our car something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my sprinting days are over. You can you can
Speaker 3: run without me, young pup. We'll see, we'll see where
Speaker 3: we're at.
Speaker 2: I might do a like trot depending on the walk briskly.
Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see what kind of umbrellas are up.
Speaker 3: We might be resourceful.
Speaker 2: We can steal from storry, sorry not steal, borrow, borrow
Speaker 2: from the past. Tomorrow morning. We'll bring it back tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: Continuing with our fantasy football focus, kind of undervalued.
Speaker 3: I bet our listeners can't even hear that.
Speaker 2: It's loud. It's yeah, dude, I'm I am. I'm not
Speaker 2: looking forward to the trek back to the car. And
Speaker 2: it's funny too, is when I was like halfway here today,
Speaker 2: I thought, I was like, you know, I should have
Speaker 2: brought a rain coat, and I didn't and it was
Speaker 2: too real, too late to return home. I remember my
Speaker 2: So twenty eighteen was my first camp, right, and uh.
Speaker 2: I remember leading up to like the days before, I was,
Speaker 2: you know, texting with our buddy Adam Crowley because you know,
Speaker 2: him and I went to college together, and we were excited.
Speaker 3: He had been here a couple of years before.
Speaker 2: It was like his thirder fourth training camp and it
Speaker 2: was my first. And I said to him, I was.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, lightning too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was really weird. The rain just kind
Speaker 2: of stopped for a second and then quickly lightning bang. Uh.
Speaker 2: And I was basically like, tell me something that I
Speaker 2: need to know about camp that no one's told me
Speaker 2: that you know something that I need or something to bring.
Speaker 2: And he immediately text me back and was like umbrella
Speaker 2: and rain jacket. He's like, I never do. He's like,
Speaker 2: and I usually do, and this is the one time
Speaker 2: I need it and I don't have it with me,
Speaker 2: because you hold a lot. There's a lot of lightning
Speaker 2: the storms here, and.
Speaker 3: Think but I have my wife's car, which I guarantee
Speaker 3: as an umbrella in it, and I didn't even take
Speaker 3: one out of the car because I never have one
Speaker 3: in mine, because I'm not prepared.
Speaker 2: If you look down here in the end zone, like
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff is falling down right now, just
Speaker 2: like blowing left right. I was gonna say, you know,
Speaker 2: when you can see the rain moving, it's coming down,
Speaker 2: and we could see it's blowing left the.
Speaker 3: Right starting to billow, and you know right.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, we can barely see the Saint Vincent
Speaker 2: shrubbery across the way. Yeah, folks, if for some reason
Speaker 2: we're talking and things go quiet, it's because we've lost
Speaker 2: power in the press box.
Speaker 3: I don't know the real possibility.
Speaker 2: But I mean we can. We can't see the third
Speaker 2: field across the way right now, that's how heavy it's
Speaker 2: coming down. Can't see campus, can't see anything except for
Speaker 2: the tarp in front of us.
Speaker 3: Split here a little.
Speaker 2: A little bit. The American flag old glory to our
Speaker 2: right is waving.
Speaker 3: Look at that tackling dumbing too. It's gets shaken like
Speaker 3: it's getting beat up by t J. Watt.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is this might be one and
Speaker 2: we've seen some nasty out here, Matt.
Speaker 3: This this is prett high on the list.
Speaker 2: This might be the nast to keep an eye on
Speaker 2: your phone. We might get a we might get a
Speaker 2: one of those weather warning or or something. Matt continuing
Speaker 2: our I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was gonna happen to ord practice. So it
Speaker 3: did hold off for the Steelers at.
Speaker 2: Least it sure did. It sure did. My goodness, this
Speaker 2: is insane right now, Matt do draft lists for fantasy football.
Speaker 2: Let's talk some running backs. James Cook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with it. I mean, he's just not cheap.
Speaker 3: I mean I think he's going like in that one
Speaker 3: two round turn. I think he's very worth it. I
Speaker 3: think he's a really good player. They just extended him.
Speaker 3: It's a great offense. His role in the receiving games
Speaker 3: growing Allan will always pillage short touchdowns though it's just
Speaker 3: as cost of doing business with the bill.
Speaker 2: But he still did score like fourteen last year.
Speaker 3: That's why I think they'll go down a little little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah. Javonte Williams of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Oh h he's definitely a target player of mine. I mean,
Speaker 3: he doesn't catch the ball a ton, but he's capable.
Speaker 3: Blue is really the only guy behind him, so he's
Speaker 3: going to get a very high percentage of the carries.
Speaker 3: I think he was right around like thirteen hundred yards
Speaker 3: last year and nobody paid attention. One of the best
Speaker 3: offenses in the league, top ball carrier. I think he's
Speaker 3: being vastly underdrafted.
Speaker 2: New Houston Texans starter David Montgomery is a late round bargain.
Speaker 3: Maybe the o Lione almost has to be better. The
Speaker 3: running game almost has to be better. Nowhere to go,
Speaker 3: but up, I just worry, well two things, one's good,
Speaker 3: one bad. If I were them, I would have done
Speaker 3: more than just traded for Montgomery. I would have also
Speaker 3: used like a third round pick on a running back
Speaker 3: because I'm worried. He's not ever been the bell cow
Speaker 3: guy for Detroit. But he's not young, and he runs really,
Speaker 3: really hard. The end is nearer than you think for
Speaker 3: guys like that, you know, and if that's this year, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And guys like that usually fall off a cliff fast fast.
Speaker 3: Whenever they do, they're just their body shot.
Speaker 2: You know, generally not targeting first year players, but Seattle
Speaker 2: Seahawks rookie Judaian Price enters to a very good situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his ADP average draft positions way lower than when
Speaker 3: I started digging into this stuff. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 3: love this player. I think the people are getting too
Speaker 3: excited about him. I wouldn't take him the first round
Speaker 3: if I'm Seattle, but he's the only show in town
Speaker 3: on the super Bowl Champs Charbona is a long way away.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll be out there on third downs.
Speaker 3: But still, he's going way too late.
Speaker 2: Way too late, and he's the first round running back.
Speaker 2: I'll be very interested to see or when you when
Speaker 2: you send me your annual lists of fantasy football rocks
Speaker 2: where he's gonna where he's gonna land? What about formerly
Speaker 2: of this Parish, Kenneth Gainwell, he's on the list.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a tough one for me because I think
Speaker 3: he'll get a ton of receptions and know of a
Speaker 3: similar role as he did here. But they like Sean Tucker.
Speaker 3: The Syracuse kid is kind of the short yardage dude.
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving should be their number one, but he's not
Speaker 3: for me. I've never been enamored with his abilities, and
Speaker 3: he's coming off shoulder injuries. Shoulders for running backs to
Speaker 3: me are just tough, do not touch. But I just
Speaker 3: don't know if Gainwell has a path to ever be
Speaker 3: a fantasy starter, which is kind of the problem here,
Speaker 3: Like as good as season as he had, you were
Speaker 3: never comfortable Sunday morning put him in your lineup, even
Speaker 3: though he had a good day here and there. For
Speaker 3: fantasy reasons, he had a lot of good days of Steelers.
Speaker 2: This is an interesting one. Matt JK. Dobbins on this list.
Speaker 2: Oh he's and he says he'll never appear in seventeen
Speaker 2: games in a season, but his his value is still there.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna start him to he gets hurt, and
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna cut him because he's good, right, And
Speaker 3: it's a very week to week people forget I mean fantasy.
Speaker 3: You can't look at like, what's he gonna be doing
Speaker 3: in Week sixteen. It's a very week to week proposition.
Speaker 3: So get me four to six, maybe eight games because
Speaker 3: he's gonna be productive and you can get him. That's
Speaker 3: all baked into his price.
Speaker 2: Then the last running back is Commander's newcomer Rashod White
Speaker 2: as a popular kind of late round pick because he'll
Speaker 2: be kind of a big option for them, and it
Speaker 2: is projected to have around seventy receptions.
Speaker 3: He's the pass catcher, so that part's important. He's established.
Speaker 3: I'm also getting really good reports on Alan, the Penn
Speaker 3: State kid that they drafted. I guess he had like
Speaker 3: twenty some carries last night, and krossky Merritts also had
Speaker 3: a lot of good buzz too. His name.
Speaker 2: It feels like every time around this time of year
Speaker 2: pops up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just don't know. It's probably avoid the
Speaker 3: whole backfield for me. It just seems too himous.
Speaker 2: Wide receivers here, Matt, as we continue along this list
Speaker 2: of fantasy football guys that would be good value for
Speaker 2: your teams for your drafts. Of course, as we head
Speaker 2: closer and closer to draft season, wide receiver Justin Jefferson
Speaker 2: really gonna bounce back from that down year last year
Speaker 2: with Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3: And you would just assume that he's a slam dunk
Speaker 3: first round pick, but that's not where he's going. He's
Speaker 3: kind of going at the turn or somewhere between, like
Speaker 3: I think like ten and fifteen overall. OK, he didn't
Speaker 3: do anything wrong. I mean by no means is he
Speaker 3: declining in any way, shape or form. And we've said
Speaker 3: this so many times to the Vikings. If you just
Speaker 3: go from like the worst quarterback play in the league
Speaker 3: to average, I think he's back to being a top
Speaker 3: three fantasy receiver.
Speaker 2: Number two is Zay Flowers, to finish seventh amongst wide
Speaker 2: receivers last season despite some injuries and not the grass
Speaker 2: from Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: He's better for fantasy than you think because his target
Speaker 3: share is so huge. They just gave him money. I
Speaker 3: can't think that target share is gonna go down. Touchdowns
Speaker 3: are always his issue though. I mean, he's not built
Speaker 3: to score a lot of touchdowns and from short distance.
Speaker 3: They give it to Henry.
Speaker 2: What about Jamison Williams of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: And non PPR leagues.
Speaker 3: Well that in particular, Yeah, because he's never gonna be
Speaker 3: a high volume dude. I'm fine with it. I mean
Speaker 3: at cost, I would end up with them sometimes, I'm
Speaker 3: not avoiding them. It's just I mean Saint Brown, Laporta, Gibbs,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Mouse. There're sure there's gonna be
Speaker 3: some downweeks for him.
Speaker 2: There's sure is a couple more here Mike Evans as
Speaker 2: a late round bargain.
Speaker 3: I'm in on that. I don't see any reason to
Speaker 3: think he's about to fall off a cliff. I think
Speaker 3: that system fits him extremely well. He hand picked the Niners.
Speaker 3: He wants to be there, it's good offense. I'm fine
Speaker 3: with taking him a cost.
Speaker 2: Two more here at wide receiver position, Wandell Robinson of
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been no good reports out of there for
Speaker 3: Ward or Carnel Tate, and I guess that should be
Speaker 3: you know, it's early. Yeah, I guess I should be expected.
Speaker 3: But if you just especially in PPR, if you just
Speaker 3: look at Wandel the last two three years, he gets
Speaker 3: the ball. His former coach had the vouch for him
Speaker 3: with the Giants coming over there as offensive coordinator. They
Speaker 3: gave him pretty good money and somebody has to catch
Speaker 3: a ball there. So he's not gonna win you the league,
Speaker 3: but he's better than where he's getting drafted.
Speaker 2: And the last one as kind of a another late
Speaker 2: round guy, but don't let him be an afterthought. Malik
Speaker 2: Washington because someone has to catch ye.
Speaker 3: No, and he's I've always liked him. I like him
Speaker 3: as a three and he's gonna be a two there,
Speaker 3: which is not ideal. But again, someone's gonna catch balls.
Speaker 3: Maybe a lot of it'll be garbage time, but the
Speaker 3: reports have been pretty good on him and Douglas the
Speaker 3: third round pick.
Speaker 2: Hey, someone, someone's got to be a target for the
Speaker 2: best players in the world. They can't just hand it
Speaker 2: to eight Chain a million times a game.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, that's the beauty fantasy or the conundrum
Speaker 3: of fans. He is not necessarily the best players score
Speaker 3: the most points tight ends.
Speaker 2: He has a couple here, Matt and one is a
Speaker 2: guy that we are fond of. It's Tucker Craft of
Speaker 2: the Packers. Yeah, because after the injury, his ADP is
Speaker 2: much lower than expected.
Speaker 3: Now that's real subject to change. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: a lot of drafters are just waiting the is he
Speaker 3: gonna be there for Week one and be one hundred
Speaker 3: percent because he's not going to play in the preseason.
Speaker 3: We didn't see him obviously a couple of nights ago.
Speaker 3: Sign me up. I mean, I think he's like my
Speaker 3: fourth tight end right now, and I might even bump
Speaker 3: him a little higher once you know that he's out
Speaker 3: of the woods, which I'm assuming he will be.
Speaker 2: What about Mark Andrews is the Ravens listed here had
Speaker 2: a disappoint He's late had a disappointing twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: but his volume and target share will rise with Isaiah
Speaker 2: likely off to New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Henry and Andrews are the guys that
Speaker 3: get the ball near the goal line and have for years.
Speaker 3: And I don't care who the coaching staff is. I
Speaker 3: mean Lamar and whoever are going to get the ball
Speaker 3: in their hands, which hurts Flowers. And he's got that
Speaker 3: old man game where I think he fades away slow.
Speaker 3: You can get him really really late. Again. I don't
Speaker 3: think he's a league winner for you or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's shot either, and people are
Speaker 3: treating him like he shot.
Speaker 2: And then the last year is a three kind of
Speaker 2: late round. But quality options T J. Hawkinson, Dalton Kincaid
Speaker 2: and Hunter Henry all have low all have low ADPs.
Speaker 3: None of those have a high enough ceiling for me
Speaker 3: like that. If I'm gonna take a late tight end,
Speaker 3: especially if he's my number two tight end, and you
Speaker 3: know I have Kyle Pitts, or I have Craft or
Speaker 3: whoever like that. I'm not taking Hunter Henry. I'm looking
Speaker 3: for somebody that just has a much higher ceiling than that,
Speaker 3: like a Terrence Ferguson from the Rams.
Speaker 2: It can really run. That's just a puppy, you know,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna if you're gonna take a swing in
Speaker 2: the late round, do you want to swing for the fences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't just need a backup. I mean I
Speaker 3: could cut that guy.
Speaker 2: Any any glaring names at any of these positions. Matt
Speaker 2: that you were like, I'm surprised this guy isn't on
Speaker 2: the list.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a million.
Speaker 2: I know, that's kind of putting you on the spot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's not one at the at the
Speaker 2: forefront of your mind, there's not one.
Speaker 3: Of the tip of my tongue. But if I mean,
Speaker 3: I was just actually fiddling with my spreadsheet today and going, boy,
Speaker 3: I moved this guy up, Move this guy up. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's Joante Williams is the one we brought up. He's
Speaker 3: somebody I moved up three or four spots just today.
Speaker 2: Too interesting. I'm excited to see that list, Matt whenever.
Speaker 3: One guy I am getting real fond of is just
Speaker 3: because all the reports are so good. Is Jonathan Brooks
Speaker 3: with the Panthers, who was a really high pick before
Speaker 3: buzz buzz. Now he's healthy, could be an every down guy.
Speaker 3: I don't think Cuba Hubbard's that hard to get past
Speaker 3: as a hurdle, and Tuba's going ahead of him, and
Speaker 3: I don't know how long that's gonna last.
Speaker 2: I don't know how long we're gonna last here.
Speaker 3: I know this is pretty nute.
Speaker 2: These lightning strikes are insane. And there's like the tin
Speaker 2: roof on the the press box here that everything kind
Speaker 2: of gets louder, gets amplified here. But we are rolling
Speaker 2: along high top Chuck Nolefield, of course, in the press
Speaker 2: box at Saint Vincent College, West Shuler, Matt Williamson. We're
Speaker 2: gonna close down this four o'clock hour on the other side,
Speaker 2: and so that means we're a twenty minutes away from
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Speaker 2: the tweets. You know where to get at us if
Speaker 2: you want to get involved with the day's proceedings. Also,
Speaker 2: if you have any idea where Matt and I can
Speaker 2: borrow Uh if you could run a good at the
Speaker 2: same time, though, should we? You know, Wolf would be
Speaker 2: smacking us in the back of the head. He'd be like,
Speaker 2: you're not going to carry an umbrella in the lightning storm?
Speaker 3: Youdinksh what's the chances famous last words, I'm out here
Speaker 3: tomorrow Williamson gets hit by late now.
Speaker 2: I tell you what, though, that would make a heck
Speaker 2: of a story for the show tomorrow. Guys, Matt's not
Speaker 2: here with us, he got struck by lightning.
Speaker 3: Well, you shouldn't worry. I mean, if we're walking together,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, get hit.
Speaker 2: Right, that's a good But that's like the old adage
Speaker 2: of like I don't need to outrun the bear, I
Speaker 2: just need to outrun my slowest friend when we're running
Speaker 2: away from a bed.
Speaker 3: Tell you my son's snorkel story.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: We were in Turks and Caicos. It was quite a
Speaker 3: while ago, and he was like nine. I would guess
Speaker 3: something like that and not unrealistically, he kind of had
Speaker 3: a fear of sharks and we're out on a snorkel boat,
Speaker 3: and of course the guide's like there's a shark. There's
Speaker 3: a shark. Yeah, And he's like that, yeah, what are
Speaker 3: you thinking here? And there's a group of young fellas
Speaker 3: partying it up on the boat and it's party central,
Speaker 3: and he's kind of looking at them and he's getting
Speaker 3: closer to them, and then finally it's like time to
Speaker 3: go in, and I'm like, all right, but if you
Speaker 3: want me to hang with you, he's like, no, I
Speaker 3: think I'm just gonna hang here. So I jump in,
Speaker 3: wife jumps in daughter. We're all snorkeling around and we
Speaker 3: know he can swim, and we're not worried about him.
Speaker 3: There's lifeguards and all those things. So he's not with us,
Speaker 3: and he's with them. And we get back in the boat.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what were you doing. He's like, dude, I
Speaker 3: watched them. None of them can swim at all. They've
Speaker 3: been drinking all day. All I gotta do is be
Speaker 3: faster than then to the back of the boat. I'm
Speaker 3: likeably right.
Speaker 2: That you don't have to be faster than the than
Speaker 2: the predator. You just have to be faster than any
Speaker 2: of your other friends or anyone else who's running from
Speaker 2: the predator as well. Holy cow, Mat if you look down.
Speaker 3: On the right end of the f I know that
Speaker 3: swamp central all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a swimming pool over there. Man.
Speaker 3: Every year that happens at least once.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. And I think it's gonna keep on
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Speaker 2: Well, the good news, folks is that the weather isn't
Speaker 2: quite as violent as it has been for the last
Speaker 2: half an hour or so. The bad news is madd
Speaker 2: and I still have a while before we walk up
Speaker 2: out of here, so we could get worse subject to
Speaker 2: take get worse again. But we can once again see
Speaker 2: campus across the field, which is good. We can see
Speaker 2: the Saint Vincent shrubbery and the far field and all
Speaker 2: those good things. As it's a it's a nasty one,
Speaker 2: nasty little Sunday evening here in Latrobe. I was laughing
Speaker 2: about that with my wife this morning. Man, I was like,
Speaker 2: it's Sunday like this this time a year. Yeah. The
Speaker 2: only other next.
Speaker 3: Week I'll start to understand the days of the week again.
Speaker 2: The only other thing that I can compare it to
Speaker 2: is and I think everyone remembers this feeling, you know
Speaker 2: when you were growing up in school, you know school age,
Speaker 2: like middle school, high school, college, and you'd be on
Speaker 2: Christmas vacation or summer vacation, and like you didn't know
Speaker 2: what day of the week it Maybe you knew, like
Speaker 2: if you had a summertime job, you knew I have
Speaker 2: to work today, but the day of the week doesn't
Speaker 2: really badd And I was like, wow, it is a Sunday. Huh,
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like a Sunday. As we are getting
Speaker 2: towards the end of this thing, and you're right, pretty
Speaker 2: soon here we'll get back on our normal routines.
Speaker 3: And then it gets to be very routine and we're very regimented, right.
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny is I used to dislike
Speaker 2: that when I was younger. I liked the willy nilly freelance.
Speaker 2: Every day, every week is different. Now I crave the routine.
Speaker 3: I say, I kind of embrace it and with you
Speaker 3: know exactly when I can do other things or you know.
Speaker 2: And I've got a four year old and a three
Speaker 2: year old at home, and so it's hard flying by
Speaker 2: the seat of your pants when you have two other
Speaker 2: human beings that you are responsible for that rely on
Speaker 2: you for well pretty much everything. Matt. Some news across
Speaker 2: the timeline here from Adam Schefter. For the second time
Speaker 2: this summer, Aaron Donald was listed as working out with
Speaker 2: the Rams on the NFL's Transaction Wire.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's gonna happen. I think so. I mean,
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem inevitable at this point, and there's no hurry. Again,
Speaker 3: he could even do show up in week four, but
Speaker 3: I get the impress that so I wonder like he's
Speaker 3: not padded with a RAMS helmet on in practice. I
Speaker 3: think he's like a you know, a free agent workout
Speaker 3: on the side type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would. I would have to be.
Speaker 3: The most unusual workout in the NFL. It's not the
Speaker 3: undrafted free agents trying to make the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you and I have seen some of those,
Speaker 2: you know, in the times that we're down on the
Speaker 2: South Side or with them with the Browns, with them
Speaker 2: with the Browns.
Speaker 3: Bring them in early in the week, and you know
Speaker 3: we've seen.
Speaker 2: Some of those, you know, when we've been walking down
Speaker 2: at the facility and practices are doing shows or whatever.
Speaker 3: You'll see guys just trying to impress and hope that
Speaker 3: the team that put him somewhere.
Speaker 2: Maybe even give him a chance on the practice squad,
Speaker 2: right right, But I think they're aiming a little bit
Speaker 2: higher than that with Aaron Donald, certainly. But it is funny, Matt,
Speaker 2: I just I didn't know that you had to list
Speaker 2: on your transaction wise that when players work out for
Speaker 2: maybe you don't have to. Maybe the Rams are just
Speaker 2: doing it to kind of tease the I think he just.
Speaker 3: Do it through the league and nobody cares and it's
Speaker 3: just not newsworthy and no one gets ever listed twice.
Speaker 2: I guess that would make sense. Matt. Let me ask
Speaker 2: you a question here a little bit bigger picture and
Speaker 2: it kind of relates to to Mike McCarthy. But there
Speaker 2: are ten new NFL head coaches in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: I don't mean new as in like first time head coach.
Speaker 2: I mean with a new count with McCarthy count exactly right,
Speaker 2: there are I think there's like.
Speaker 3: Twenty two new offensive play callers.
Speaker 2: That is wild. Yeah, and you've outlined that before that
Speaker 2: because a lot of those guys get jobs and move
Speaker 2: up and.
Speaker 3: So you know the Yeah, it's constantly moving, especially the offen.
Speaker 2: Moving and shaking. NFL Network Bucky Brooks did a uh
Speaker 2: a list of all ten of those coaches, ranked one
Speaker 2: to ten on who he thinks will win the most
Speaker 2: games in twenty twenty six. You want to roll through.
Speaker 3: This, does the best job necessarily.
Speaker 2: Okay, this one's not very surprising.
Speaker 3: Although McCarthy pretty high.
Speaker 2: Off the top of my head, he's he's he's got
Speaker 2: him in the front half of this list. We'll see
Speaker 2: where he falls. There's there's ten. Ten is Jeff Hafley
Speaker 2: of the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, and I think I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, no one's surprised. Mike Lafleur is nine with Arizona.
Speaker 2: I think you could argue those either way.
Speaker 3: I think Arizona is a better roster, but a much
Speaker 3: worse scheduling division.
Speaker 2: And worst quarterback play probably, I would think my most
Speaker 2: likely that's a good call by your Yeah, Arizona's roster
Speaker 2: a little more solid, but my playmakers at least you know,
Speaker 2: they're in probably the best division in football, so terrible
Speaker 2: and they are who knows Brissett Beck what's going to happen,
Speaker 2: Whereas at least Miami knows that Malik Willis is going
Speaker 2: to be the guy for them number eight.
Speaker 3: Who knows how this league works. But if both those
Speaker 3: teams lose a ton of games, you would hope the
Speaker 3: owner kind of realizes I didn't expect you to win
Speaker 3: ten games this year as your first year, Yes, coach.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure this would be the case for number
Speaker 2: eight on this list to Matt, who is Todd Monkin
Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: Sure, those I mean, those three are the favorites to
Speaker 3: get the first overall pick. And rightfully so, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Tennessee Titans and Robert Sala check in at seven,
Speaker 2: which I guess I understand. But I've said this to
Speaker 2: you before. I could see them being in the running
Speaker 2: for the first overall pick. But I could also see
Speaker 2: them winning six or seven games, six or sevens not
Speaker 2: being a total disaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they with defense, and I am still really fond
Speaker 3: of the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cam wore the four with Brian Dable.
Speaker 3: Certainly he's in front of the three names mentioned already.
Speaker 2: I think there's a clear cut bottom tier there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And this is the next group group. Number six is
Speaker 2: Klik Kubiak the Las Vegas Raiders. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: that's a tough Division.
Speaker 3: Two and guy might have the Tennessey ahead of them.
Speaker 2: They might in terms of wins. Hey, maybe Mendoz is
Speaker 2: the guy. Maybe Cousins plays well enough to hold him
Speaker 2: off for a while, whatever the case may be. But
Speaker 2: that's a that's a tough division in a roster.
Speaker 3: Needs all work. I mean, they easily could be ero
Speaker 3: and six in the division. They're probably not gonna be
Speaker 3: favored in any of those games unless someone's opposing quarterbacks
Speaker 3: banged up or something.
Speaker 2: Number five on this list is Kevin Stefanski in the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons. I think their division and their schedule certainly helps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is very steel irrelevant, but they
Speaker 3: finally got a pass rush last year and invested in
Speaker 3: it heavily, and now they're both out, and you know, like,
Speaker 3: what's about that team is they've invested so heavily in
Speaker 3: quarterback and pass rush and they're the two weakest spots
Speaker 3: of the league again, or and they're on their team again.
Speaker 3: You know, like remember when they had cousins, they drafted Panick,
Speaker 3: So we're gonna be set for ten years a quarterback.
Speaker 2: No you're not.
Speaker 3: You're a mess.
Speaker 2: Into the top for Matt and let's see how this
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 3: Put those two together, though, I am these other teams
Speaker 3: can win some games.
Speaker 2: I'm also kind of surprised though, that we have the Giants,
Speaker 2: the New York Giants. Yeah, but Bucky has Mike McCarthy
Speaker 2: number four and then John Harbaugh number three. Oh, come on,
Speaker 2: I cannot Matt. I can't envision a scenario. Heck, even
Speaker 2: if Aaron Rodgers missed the whole year where the Giants
Speaker 2: win more games than the Steelers neither. I just don't
Speaker 2: see that. Come on, like we are obviously we wear
Speaker 2: black and men believer. Yeah, a great higher.
Speaker 3: I think, a great higher. If the Steelers would have
Speaker 3: hired Harba, I'd say the exact same thing, you know, like,
Speaker 3: there's no way they're gonna win less than the Giants.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. In fact, i'd say there's a better
Speaker 2: chance the Giants finish the last in their division. Yes,
Speaker 2: then they win more games than the Steelers. I don't
Speaker 2: see it. I think it is the right higher. I
Speaker 2: think carball will improve them. I think they'll be moving
Speaker 2: in the right direction, all those things.
Speaker 3: I mean, if the spread was Giants wins plus two
Speaker 3: and a half, I still might take the Steelers. I
Speaker 3: think they're like a six win team.
Speaker 2: I'll try to figure it out here, it's seven and
Speaker 2: a half games, is there is there? It's there. I
Speaker 2: would definitely definitely go under. Jackson darts already get himself
Speaker 2: and then number two on the list is Joe Brady
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills Matt and that leaves that leaves
Speaker 2: Jesse Minter of the Ravens number one.
Speaker 3: I think those two stand alone. I would probably have
Speaker 3: the Bills first.
Speaker 2: Just because of what he inherits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was also there.
Speaker 2: And they've got two bad teams in their division.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's probably four wins there, probably five
Speaker 3: in their division when you start getting through it. And
Speaker 3: I just think when you and I both kind of
Speaker 3: talked about this a little, I think Baltimore's a smidge overrated.
Speaker 2: I do too. That's why like Jesse Mentor and the
Speaker 2: raven on the top of another one of these lists.
Speaker 3: And even if the quarterbacks are equal, I'll take the
Speaker 3: Bills O line and weapons over the yes of the Ravens. Oh,
Speaker 3: the Ravens D could be decent.
Speaker 2: And there's at least I know Joe Brady is kind
Speaker 2: of wet behind the ears in this, but he knows
Speaker 2: the organization, he knows the roster. He's been there, whereas
Speaker 2: Mentor this is his first time and he's coming.
Speaker 3: I mean that was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: A lot of that for Baltimore man just rests on
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: I'll probably take the under on both those teams. I
Speaker 3: think first time head coaches. Again, you know this.
Speaker 2: I've already I told you this on the show like
Speaker 2: two months ago. When the over unders came out, I
Speaker 2: threw some I threw some money on the Ravens under
Speaker 2: eleven and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big number because I have a Buffalo's close.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Ravens are going to be trash
Speaker 2: and win seven games or anything like that. But I
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to be I'm not sure buying
Speaker 2: for the top seed in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm going to pick them to
Speaker 3: win division.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have them in the rams have the
Speaker 2: highest over under totals, and I just one of those
Speaker 2: one of those things is not like the other. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: two hours in the books, another hour ago. You know
Speaker 2: what that means. We will lead off with your questions, comments, concerns,
Speaker 2: and reactions when we return to kick off the bonus
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