1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: D Day Today, Pete haig Seth joins us talks about 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: D Day, the state of our military, all kinds of 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: lawfair stuff with Margot Cleveland, my friend comedian Dave Smith. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean, we are stacked tonight. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: But I'm right, well, what is today? 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? And yes, believe me. 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: I am aware of all the news of the day, 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: the lawfair stuff we have, Pete haig Seth, there's so 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: much modern news stuff we're going to get to. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: But what is today? 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: Today is the eightieth anniversary of D Day. Now I'm 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: going to do something just really really briefly here. First, 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: remember this was Operation Overlord. What was Operation Overlord? We 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: didn't know how to get into Europe. Hitler had taken 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: it all and had fortified it all, and we were trying. 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: To figure out how do we get in? 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, we look at a map and we think, 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: what is go in here? No, he had fortified the 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: whole thing on the Atlantic coast, three thousand miles of fortifications. 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: That's what Hitler had done. Barbed wire, pill boxes, you 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: name it, the works. He loaded it all up. They 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: came up with Operation Overlord and and we went and 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: I want you to imagine something and then we're gonna 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: move on. We'll talk about some other things, what Biden 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: said and all that other stuff today. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: But I want you, I want you to picture this. 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: You get up at three am. 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: It's cold outside, you're so nervous, you have a hard 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: time eating breakfast. Maybe you got some down, maybe you don't. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: You throw on all your gear and you head down 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: to the water. It's still dark and it's cold, it's cold, cold, rainy. 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: And you step into a boat. 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: You're very careful not to touch the water in the 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: English Channel because it's cold too. You're already cold, you're 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: already nervous, you already got the shakes. 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: And you step into this boat. 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: And then the boat begins to move in the dark 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: towards danger and you know this, and the waves start 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: coming over the sides. The sea is so terrible. One 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: of your boats capsizes, everyone lost. The water starts flooding in. 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: Now you're soaking wet, you're freezing cold, you're nervous, you're 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: seasick to the point the bottom of the boat is 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: starting to fill up with vomit. 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: And on and on. 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: You go, and soon you begin to make out the 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: outline of a cliff, a tall cliff in front of you. 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: It's all dark and black, and as you get. 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Closer and closer and closer to that cliff, it starts 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: to shoot at you, mortar shells, machine gun fire. Your 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: friends start to get hit, and finally you land on 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: the beaches underneath this hundred foot tall cliff. You and 52 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: your friends are being shot at from the Germans above. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: They're chucking grenades down at you. But you don't just 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: get to hide. There's nowhere to retreat to. It's just 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: the ocean back behind you. You have to use ladders 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: and grappling hooks with ropes on them like your batman 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: to get to the top of this cliff while you're 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: being shot at and blown up. One of your buddies 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: right beside you, was halfway up the cliff, thirty feet up, 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: and the Germans cut the rope and down. 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: He goes, right in front of you. That was the story. 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: That's a brief part of the story of the Second 63 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Ranger Battalion and what they did on D Day. 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: It's a lesser known part of D Day. 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Yes, they scaled one hundred foot tall cliff and fought 66 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: the Germans on top of it. 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: Can you even imagine the kind of bravery it takes. 68 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Two hundred and twenty five men set out to do 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: that that day. By dawn the next day, seventy of 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: them could stand and then wheeled a rifle. Unimaginable bravery. 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: And we honor all of them today. The bravery that 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: takes all of you. It's just it's amazing to me. 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I can never do it. Whatever that is, I don't 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: have it. I don't know what that is. 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Now. 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: That's D Day. That's a little brief story on D Day. 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: Probably listening to that story, probably I would guess, I 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: would guess stirred a little something in you. Patriotism, some 79 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: sort of pry, maybe maybe even sadness for those who 80 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: lost their lives. But something in you stirred when I 81 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: was just talking to you for a couple of minutes, 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: didn't it. 83 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: It's natural. 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Look, when I was sitting down doing some things before 85 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: the show, I'm talking full disclosure. You know I'm not 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: the touchy feely type. I choked up a little bit, 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: a couple of little parts. 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: That I left out it. They got me, they got 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: me bad. 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: But I want you to listen to something, and I 91 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: set aside your anger as best you can. But Joe Biden, 92 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: of course had to pretend to care about d Days. Today, 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Winton gave a little speech, and of course he made 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: it political. 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: We're living at a time when democracy had more risk 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: across the world than a point since the end through 97 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: World War Two, since these beaches were stormed. 98 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton went on social media today and said something similar. 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Eighty years ago today, thousands of brave Americans fought to 100 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: protect democracy on the shores of Normandy this November. 101 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: All we have to do is vote. 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Taking a day like this, a day about America, a 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: day to honor the troops, to honor their sacrifice, to 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: honor their service. 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: And making it about an election about politics. 106 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: How could they do that? How could they be so 107 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: tone deaf? You've seen a lot of that today. If 108 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: you've seen these comments, well, I just need to explain 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: something to you. These people don't share your value system 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: at all. It is so critical that you understand that 111 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a totally different animal. I could have 112 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: told I could sit Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton down, 113 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: I could sit your liberal aunt Peggy down in front 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: of me, and I could spend an hour going over 115 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the stories of just that second Ranger Battalion on D Day, 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and the ropes and the ladders and the blood and 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: the bombs and the bullets and the sacrifice, and nothing, 118 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: nothing inside of them would stir. None of the things 119 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: that just stirred inside of you would stir at all. 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: It wouldn't even make a dent. It would be like 121 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: I was talking to a monkey. Nothing would stir inside 122 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: of them. You have to understand that our country is 123 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: led you me, We share a country. 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: With people who feel nothing for it. 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: For the elite communists who run this country, that Joe 126 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: Biden's the Hillary Clinton's America has nothing but a bank 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: vault to be looted. They'll do whatever they can and 128 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: then leave the carcass when they move on to something else. 129 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: For the street communists, the dirt balls in the streets 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: with this and the dad and the climate change and 131 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: the black lives better or whatever else it may be, 132 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: America is just the gigantic evil empire to be burned. 133 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: It is critically important that you and I understand and 134 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: except we share a country with people who feel. 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: Nothing for it. 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: Were led by people who feel nothing for our nation, 137 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: and it looks it's part of why these people are 138 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: apparently so willing to get us into World War three? 139 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: Do you see what Joe Biden said today? 140 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: Our American weapons being used right now inside Russia. 141 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: They're authorized to be used in proximity to the border. 142 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: We're not authorizing stretch two hundred miles into Russia. We're 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: not off in the striction on Moscow. I'm the Kremlin. 144 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: We are authorizing US weapons to be used inside of 145 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: Russian's borders. Do you understand what an escalation that is? 146 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Do you understand that that is forcing Vladimir Putin to 147 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: respond in kind hate? Vladimir Putin all you want, I 148 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: certainly do. He is able to remain leader of Russia 149 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: because he sells himself as the strong man protector of Russia. 150 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: That's how he sells himself. He cannot allow American weapons 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: to kill Russians inside of his border without a response. 152 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: He can't. 153 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 5: So. 154 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: On this eightieth anniversary of. 155 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: D Day, when we think about all the blood and 156 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: bombs and bullets and death and sacrifice, look at the 157 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: people we have now and how willing they are to 158 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: send our sons and daughters back again. 159 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: It just blows me away. 160 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Well, it is awful to be led by people like this, 161 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: people who don't care about our troops. I mean, Joe Biden, 162 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: Democrat Republic doesn't matter. He's president, he is the commander 163 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: in chief. And the guys I know who are still 164 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: in do not feel valued. To put it, mildly, joining 165 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: me now, Pete Hegseth, author of the book The War 166 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: on Warriors, you really should pick this book up and 167 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: find out exactly how our guys are being treated. 168 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: Pete. 169 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not exactly something new that guys who are 170 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: in don't exactly get treated great. You don't join to 171 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: get treated great. You're not signing up to stay at 172 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the Hilton. That's not how it works. But it would 173 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: be nice if you didn't have this never ending feeling 174 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: of betrayal from the people who lead you, not just 175 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: to politicians, but the dirt ball flag officers we have 176 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: now in this military. 177 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 5: You know, that's why the subtitle is behind the betrayal 178 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: of the men who keep us free. 179 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: It is it is. 180 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 5: Generals with stars on their shoulder who are cowards, who 181 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 5: ultimately wouldn't stand up to the ideologies being rammed down. 182 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: The throats of our leadership. 183 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: They never stood up and said nope, Hey, you know, 184 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 5: women in combat's not going to work very well. You're 185 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 5: not going to stand up and say we're not going 186 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: to do this trans stuff. But didn't stand up and say, hey, 187 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 5: we don't need your CRT and DEI. It only makes 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: it causes division inside our ranks, only creates skepticism and animosity. 189 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: And no one ever threw their stars on the table 190 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 5: said we're not doing it. So as a result, this 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: book is not how the military went woke. It's how 192 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 5: the military allowed itself to go woke. You're right, because 193 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 5: there were cowards and camouflage wouldn't make tough polls or 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: retire or call it out or resign and say I'm 195 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 5: not doing this because politicians are going to do what 196 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 5: politicians do. We know what left wingers do. They do 197 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: crazy stuff. Just keep it out of our military where 198 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 5: it's life or death. Because you're right, we all signed up. 199 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: We get the uniform and the bad haircut. We know 200 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: we're not in for paradise. We're in because we love 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: the country and a lot of vet You know this. 202 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: You talk to these. 203 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: Guys, I talk to them, are questioning whether they would 204 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: recommend it. For their sons and their daughters in the future. 205 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 5: And that's pretty understandable considering what folks have done to 206 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 5: the military. 207 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: Pete. 208 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I've got two boys thirteen 209 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and fifteen, and they're not joining. 210 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: I realized they can do whatever they want when they're eighteen. 211 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: But my kids are out, and I don't know a 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: single gat veteran friend of mine. 213 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: Who feels differently. 214 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: And these are guys who come from military families. We're 215 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: talking WW two, Korea, Vietnam, my grandpa, my dad, my uncle. 216 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: I fought in Iraq, I fought in Afghanistan, and now 217 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: they're telling their kids, Nope, you're done with all of this. 218 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: These are the families who in our wars, Pete, and 219 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: they're done. And the guys who are interesttting out. The 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: retention crisis is as bad as the recruiting crisis. 221 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: So what do we do? Where do we go? Who 222 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: stands up? Who does it? 223 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: And because you're right, this has always been a family business, 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 5: here's the crazy part. 225 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 4: You know, if you don't like your tax rates, you 226 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: can move to another state. If you don't like your school, 227 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 4: you can move to another school. If you don't like one. 228 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: Hundred and first Airborne. Where else do you go? I mean, 229 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 5: if you don't like the Marine Corps, where else you don't? 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: There just now where else to go. So we're a 231 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: republic which has turned on itself. We know that we're 232 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 5: in a cold civil war. We've got to teach our 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 5: kids to hate the country that they live in. We 234 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: trans our, I mean, it's a disaster. But if we 235 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 5: lose the military, then where else do we turn? So 236 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: I grappled with that very same question. My friends say 237 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: the exact same thing. The last chapter of the book 238 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: is a letter to my five sons about whether I 239 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: would want them to serve. And I didn't know what 240 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: I would write, because I've kind of been in your 241 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 5: camp for the longest time. And at the end of 242 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: the day, I think if there was a Trump presidency, 243 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 5: in a real realignment of the Pentagon, if we're saying, 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: you know, heads are rolling, we're firing woke generals, We're 245 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 5: putting a real sect death in charge, a real Chairman 246 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 5: of the Joint Chiefs. We're getting rid of DEI and 247 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 5: CRT at our military academies. 248 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: We're gonna focus on readiness. Let's take the. 249 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 5: Standards back to nineteen ninety five, whenever they were in 250 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety five. Let's make them that and stick with him. 251 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: I could I could see myself recommending my boy serving. 252 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 5: But under this, I mean, Jesse. You probably don't know 253 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: the story I told it in the book. For the 254 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: first time, I was dubbed an extremist by my National 255 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: Guard unit following the twenty twenty riots, and when we 256 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: were going to go guard the inauguration. 257 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: That's why I got out. So it's personal for me, 258 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: it's personal for you. 259 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 5: Everybody's seen something, whether it's facting mandates, whether it's a 260 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: first getting promoted in whatever slot, whether it's training being 261 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: diverted to some nonsense instead of I don't know, gunnery 262 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: tables like all that. 263 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: Everybody's seeing an aspect of it. We got to fix 264 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: it or where do we turn? 265 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 266 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: No, look, if they if they could make those kind 267 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: of changes, I'll drop my boys off at the recruiting office. 268 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: But it's just the way it is now. 269 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Pete. I want to ask you this because. 270 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: You were an officer Afghanistan Iraq, a ground pounder, not 271 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: one of these poge types. But anyway, you were an officer. 272 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: But these guys, these generals we were just lamenting about 273 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: a couple minutes ago. 274 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: They were too. 275 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Mark Billy, we all dog on him now 276 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: justifiably so. 277 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: Mark Billy's piece of trash. 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: But Mark Milly back in the day was pete excess. 279 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Mark Milly was a pipe pitter. Mark Milly was a stud. 280 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: So what happened when the things on the bars changed? 281 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: What happens in there? Pete? 282 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Explain it to me, because I don't understand the first 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: lieutenant Mark Milly would beat the crap out of four 284 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: star Mark Millie. 285 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 5: That's back when he did pt Uh, you're exactly right, 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: and that he's a. 287 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: Centerpiece of an example of one. 288 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 5: Part of the question is part of the answers. I 289 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: don't know why does that transformation happen. There's a lot 290 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: of reasons I unpack in the book. Ultimately, you know, 291 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: guys like Mark Milly went to the same woke, elite colleges. 292 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: Our military now sends all. 293 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 6: Of our senior officers to Ivy League schools or elite 294 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 6: schools to. 295 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: Go look more like civilians. 296 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 5: They're supposed to educate civilians on military life. They come back, 297 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: They come back with a pink hue to their camouflage, 298 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 5: and they want to be liked by the chattering class. 299 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of. 300 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: That, but general officers that ranked has it's become about careerism. 301 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: It's become about get along, to go along, find the 302 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 5: current and ride it. The most dangerous thing you could 303 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: do is take a risk or take a stand. And 304 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 5: they know no one's actually held accountable for war fighting aspects, 305 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: so they're willing, under Obama and their Biden to cater 306 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: to say, Okay, well, not what I would do, but 307 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: you know what I'm here, so I'll. 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: Make sure it'd be shepherded. Okay, oh yeah, I know 309 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: we don't really need. 310 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: Electric tanks, but the politicians are telling me, so we're 311 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 5: going to do it with the best military know how 312 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: that we can. They rationalize it by thinking they can 313 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: make it less worse, and then they start justifying it, 314 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 5: and then they get in front of congressional committees and 315 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 5: they end up defending it like Milly did, and pretty 316 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: soon they've sold the pharma. 317 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: I know for a fact Milli has this book and 318 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: he hates it. 319 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 5: I've got that on direct knowledge because it calls him 320 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: out specifically as an example of this but I also 321 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: talked to I've talked to a two three star marine 322 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 5: for general who is a part of integrating women into 323 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: the combat units, and he proudly talked about it. And 324 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: when I was like, well, you know, they're less combat effect. Oh, 325 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: it's like, do you think men and women are not 326 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: physically different? 327 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: Are we going down that train at this point? 328 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: So they just rationalize it to go along to get 329 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 5: their stars and then get their job in corporate America 330 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 5: and some defense contractor and where they keep making money. 331 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: They're just listening to the politicians and ignoring their old 332 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: of office. 333 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, countries led by militaries led by General Raytheon. Now 334 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: this freaking blows me away. Pete, my brother, thank you. 335 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you very much. All Right, we have a 336 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: lot more. You thought you thought that January sixth, people 337 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: going to prison were the only ones. You thought Donald 338 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Trump being convicted possibly sent to prison was the only one. 339 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: As I have said, without real retribution, this doesn't stop. 340 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Another Trump ally is about to go to prison. We'll 341 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: talk about that next. Before we talk about that, let 342 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: me talk to you about your cell phone company. Look, 343 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: these cell phone companies are awful. 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I know it is uncomfortable. I know it's 370 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: not who you want to be. I know it's not 371 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: the country you want to live in, and it's not 372 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: the kind of country I want to live in either. 373 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: We have to start arresting Democrats and throwing them in prison. 374 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: Republican ags and red states have to begin arresting Democrat 375 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: congressman senators. 376 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: There should already be. 377 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: An arrest warrant issued for Joe Biden the day he's 378 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: out of the presidency. We have to begin arresting Democrats, 379 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: putting them on trial, convicting them, and throwing. 380 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 2: Them in prison. 381 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: I know that's terrible do, but the truth is they're 382 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: not going to stop. They've been arresting these poor January 383 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: sixth people for years. They're gunning them down in Utah. 384 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: They're throwing pro lifers in prison. They're disbarring Trump's attorneys. 385 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Trump himself may go to jail now, Bannon's going to jail. 386 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: These people are not backing off or slowing down because 387 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: you're mad or I'm mad, and they won't. 388 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: They're ramping up. 389 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: They're ramping up because we refuse to respond in kind. 390 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Without arrests, without Democrats going to prison, we cannot save 391 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: the country because we can't stop them from doing what 392 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: they're doing. They will never stop ever unless we make 393 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: them stop. I heard Andrew McCabe on CNN. He said 394 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: this today, and I'll tell you what. I stood up 395 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: and cheered. He's of course lying, but I wish she 396 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: was telling the truth. 397 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 7: He runs the risk of really dismantling and greatly incapacitating 398 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 7: the Department of Justice and the FBI. I have a 399 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 7: lot of conversations with former colleagues, people who are or 400 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 7: were in the intelligence and law enforcement community and may 401 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 7: have worked in the Obama administration other places, and you know, 402 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 7: people are really trying to assess, like what is life 403 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 7: going to be like if Donald Trump wins a second term? 404 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 7: And on a very personal level, I mean, these are 405 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 7: tortuous discussions with their family members about whether or not 406 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 7: they have to leave the country to avoid being unconstitutionally 407 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 7: and illegally detained. I mean, people are actually worried about 408 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 7: being thrown in jail or grabbed in some sort of 409 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 7: extra judicial detention. 410 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, let's be clear Donald Trump's not 411 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: going to do that. He's on social media still bragging 412 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: about building the FBI a new building. He's not going 413 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: to do that. If he was going to do that, 414 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump got up today and announced that he 415 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: intends to arrest and imprison a bunch of FBI agents, 416 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: I would publicly max donate to his campaign. I would 417 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: call every rich guy I know in fundraise for him. 418 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: I would make phone calls for him. I would knock 419 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: on doors for him. In my maga hat. That is 420 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: exactly what must happen in order to save the country. 421 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: Andrew McCabe is, of course lying, or his friends are lying. 422 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: None of these people have any fear at all. 423 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: And that is the problem. 424 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: Unless the bad guys start being afraid, we cannot save America. 425 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: We can't normal our way back into saving our country. 426 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: That's simply a fact. All right, all right now, I'm 427 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: a little wound up today. You know why I'm a 428 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: little wound up today. It's actually not the news stories. 429 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: I just keep knocking out eight hours of sleep and 430 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: eight hours of sleep and eight hours of sleep. 431 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: It's just consistent, over and over and over again. How 432 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: do I do that? 433 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: Well, if there's ever a night where I feel like 434 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sleep. Maybe I had an afternoon 435 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: cup of coffee, which I shouldn't do. 436 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: I just reach for dream powder. Isn't that a cool 437 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: name for it? Beam? 438 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: They came up with this stuff called called dream powder. 439 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: Now it's all natural. It's all natural, and the beauty 440 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: of that is not the taste, even though it's wonderful. 441 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: Mine is cinnamon chocolate. 442 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: I essentially have a cup of cinnamon hot chocolate for 443 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: dinner or after dinner. 444 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: I have that before bed because it's natural. 445 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I not only go to sleep, I wake up and 446 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: I feel great. I don't wake up and feel heavy 447 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: and groggy like you do when you take things to sleep. 448 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: Beam doesn't do that. You wake up, You're ready to go? 449 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: That sound good to go? Get some shopbeam dot com 450 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: slash Jesse Kelly gets you a huge discount. Go buy 451 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: a bag or two of dream powder. You will own 452 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: it for life. Trust me, you'll keep going back. 453 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: We'll be back. 454 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 8: Hunter Biden struggled with addiction. We are a country that 455 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 8: has been riddled with addiction. And you know a percentage 456 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 8: of this population has struggled with fent and al and 457 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 8: all sorts of opioids, and you know, this is addiction 458 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 8: is a real American problem. So the fact that they're 459 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 8: kind of they keep hammering him on being an addict, 460 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 8: on having a gun, you know, and also on having 461 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 8: a gun, which Republicans really like guns. So I think 462 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 8: it's going to be I think this is going to 463 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 8: keep going. But I do think Biden has a really 464 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 8: good opportunity here to say the laws the law for everyone, 465 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 8: be at my son or Donald Trump. You know, this 466 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 8: is the way it works in this country. 467 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, if Hunter Biden gets convicted, Joe Biden's going to 468 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: wait about fifteen minutes before he pardons it. But I 469 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to get convicted anyway. I'm curious 470 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: what Margot has to say about it. 471 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: Mark joining me now. 472 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Margot Cleveland's senior legal correspondent with The Federalist, and actually 473 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: you have a piece up about all this in the Federalist. Margo, 474 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: what do you say and what do you think? 475 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 9: Well, first, I just have to at that SoundBite you played. 476 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 9: The reason they're focusing on Hunter Biden being an addict 477 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 9: is because that is one of the things they have 478 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 9: to prove in this case that he either is an 479 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 9: addict or that he was using drugs, and they've presented 480 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 9: evidence of both. The other thing is Republicans, Yeah, we 481 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 9: love the right to bear arms, but we always say legally, 482 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 9: we don't want people who aren't supposed to be possessing 483 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 9: them possessing them. It's the Democrats who think all guns 484 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 9: should be gone no matter what. It's the violation of 485 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 9: the law that hunter Biden did that is the problem here. 486 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 9: But I'm with you. I don't think that the jury 487 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 9: is going to convict him. I think all you have 488 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 9: to do is look what the breakdown in the city 489 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 9: was for voting, and it was actually higher pro Biden 490 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 9: over Trump in twenty twenty than in Manhattan. So I 491 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 9: don't see that we're going to see a conviction in 492 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 9: this case. 493 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: Okay, now you need to explain that to me, Margo. 494 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: How could there not be a conviction when it's my 495 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: understanding and obviously, as you know, I'm not the lawyer 496 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: you are. This is as black and white as it gets. 497 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: He lied on this form when I filled out many 498 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: times to purchase the firearm. He lied about it. It's 499 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: black and white evidence. Because this freakin' moron wrote a 500 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: book about being an addict while he lied about the form. 501 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: It's dead right, So I mean Johnny Cochran couldn't get 502 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: him out of this. 503 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: How could he get out of this? 504 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 9: Margot, Well, there are two things here we have to 505 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 9: keep in mind. Is what is the idea of jury nullification? 506 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 9: The jury says, yes, we can and we will follow 507 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 9: the law. It doesn't mean that when they get back 508 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 9: in the jury box that one person won't convince the 509 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 9: others that look, yes he was an addict, Yes he lied, 510 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 9: but he's turned his life around. And really this is 511 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 9: something that five. 512 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 10: Years ago they didn't pursue. Why are they doing it now. 513 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 9: It's a political reason that their pursuit doing it now, 514 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 9: and therefore we should let him off. 515 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 10: So that's the idea of jury nullification. 516 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 9: And then the second part of that is they have 517 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 9: to prove intent and juries aren't always the brightest bulb 518 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 9: in the box. And Hunter Biden's got some really good 519 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 9: attorneys who can try to convince them that in his mind, 520 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 9: he wasn't an addict because he was in rehab, in 521 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 9: his mind, he wasn't a user, or he wasn't using 522 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 9: because he wasn't using. 523 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 10: The moment he purchased the gun. 524 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 9: Now the evidence is overwhelming that both of those should 525 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 9: be rejected, but again, the jury might decide otherwise for it. 526 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 9: But another thing I think is important to keep in 527 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 9: mind is, even if Hunter Biden is convicted of this, 528 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 9: it isn't somehow showing that we have one standard of 529 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 9: justice under the law Hunter Biden, those on the Bidens 530 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 9: side of the equation, the folks in the DOJ, they 531 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 9: did everything they could to prevent this case from coming 532 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 9: to trial. And if you contrast that with what happened 533 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 9: with Donald Trump, it was all of the outsiders doing 534 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 9: everything they could to get a case against Donald Trump. 535 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 10: So even if Hunter. 536 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 9: Is eventually convicted on this or on the tax case, 537 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 9: it doesn't show that there's this one standard of justice. 538 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 9: What it shows is that the two standards of justice 539 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 9: failed to actually get the results that they wanted. They 540 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 9: wanted Hunter to walk on this, It just didn't fly 541 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 9: because of the whistleblowers. 542 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Margo sentencing, What do you expect for Hunter? And I 543 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: might as well just go ahead and ask the follow up, now, 544 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: what do you expect for Donald Trump? 545 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: Right? 546 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 9: So I would not be surprised if Hunter has a 547 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 9: sentence that does not require any jail time. There is 548 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 9: a lot of discretion under the federal statutes. In the guidelines, 549 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 9: I'd have to double check to make sure there's no 550 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 9: mandatory minimum of imprisonment by statute. If there isn't, then 551 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 9: I would say there's not going to be any jail 552 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 9: time because he did, as far as we can tell, 553 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 9: has his addiction under control, which is a great thing. 554 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 9: As the sound bite said, there are a lot of 555 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 9: addicts in this country. It's a horrible thing. And if 556 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 9: he actually has it under control, that's great. And on 557 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 9: this chart, maybe no jail time for Donald Trump. It 558 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 9: is impossible to tell, because this judge is so wacky 559 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 9: that I could see him ordering him Donald Trump to 560 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 9: go directly to jail, trying to keep him out of 561 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 9: the Republican Convention. It shouldn't be a matter of jail 562 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 9: time because of the type of offense it was, which 563 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 9: was a made up offense. We're really misdemeanors that the 564 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 9: statueta limitations ran out. But it is impossible to predict 565 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 9: what this judge will do. 566 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: Margot, who's going to step in, if anybody, and save 567 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: Trump from this, overturn this conviction. I know Trump has 568 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: been harpened at the Supreme Court to step in. 569 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: Are they going to? Is that a good idea? 570 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 1: Surely someone's going to step in and toss all this 571 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: out right, And if they are, when are they going 572 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: to do it? 573 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 10: Well, no one is going to step in. 574 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 9: It's going to be a matter of Donald Trump's legal 575 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 9: team filing a challenge and whether he does this first 576 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 9: in the state court, which is the typical process, or 577 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 9: somehow tries to bring this in the federal court first. 578 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 9: I highly doubt that will happen because under the federal system, 579 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 9: you're supposed to exhaust all of your state court remedies 580 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 9: before you jump over to federal court. I could see 581 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 9: his attorneys trying to go straight to the highest court 582 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 9: in New York and trying to get them to do 583 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 9: an expedited appeal to throw the conviction out, and then 584 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 9: if that does not happen, that he then goes and 585 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 9: tries to get the Supreme Court to take it from 586 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 9: there based on due process claims. 587 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 10: Because this is a state court conviction. 588 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 9: The only way the Supreme Court can intervene is if 589 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 9: Trump's lawyers have a basis to bring it to the 590 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 9: court and they do a violation of Donald Trump's due 591 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 9: process rights would be a way to get it to 592 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 9: the Supreme Court. But there's going to have to be 593 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 9: at least one step in the state court system before 594 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 9: it gets to the US Supreme Court. 595 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so Supreme Court's not going to swoop in here 596 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: and save the day in the next ten minutes before 597 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: I let you go, Margo. 598 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: The US Supreme Court. 599 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: It's very obvious to me from the outside looking in 600 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: that the commies in this country are running it up 601 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: against the Supreme Court. 602 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: They've threatened them all the time. They threaten them with legislation. 603 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: One of these dirty street monsters tried to kill Kavanaugh. 604 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: They're protesting in front of their house. 605 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: It's very obvious they're going after the Supreme Court. Are 606 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: they going to end up being successful in that? 607 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 10: They aren't? 608 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 9: And this is really to me it looks like a 609 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 9: ploy to get votes. They're trying to make the Supreme 610 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 9: Court an issue, and they don't have. 611 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 10: Anything else they can go on. 612 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 9: With Joe Biden, he's been a failure on everything, inflation, 613 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 9: the economy. 614 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 10: Foreign affairs, the border. 615 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 9: So what are they going to do that the Supreme 616 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 9: Court is controlled by the president. And look what Trump 617 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 9: has done by appointing these right wing wackos who have 618 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 9: no ethics. 619 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 10: So it's not going to work. 620 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 9: But it's not going to work from the judicial standpoint. 621 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 9: It might have some vote getting by the political you know, 622 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 9: the political basis of it. 623 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Margo, thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right, Doctor, 624 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: you remember her, don't you. 625 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: She's still out there running her mouth on TV about 626 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: new things that you need to do. I need to 627 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: do new ways we can destroy the economy. Of course, 628 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: in the name of medicine and science. We'll talk to 629 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: comedian my friend Dave Smith next about that. Before we 630 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: talked to Dave, let's talk about the headache of a 631 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: time share you don't want anymore? Do you have one 632 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: of those? It's very common if you're in this situation. 633 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: Don't think that you're alone, okay, and don't feel like 634 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: some kind of an idiot. Oh, I can't believe I 635 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't read the fine print. You get in these time shares, 636 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: and then when it comes to time to get out, 637 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: the time share company tries to drop that bomb on you. 638 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, sorry, you signed the contract. You're not allowed out. 639 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: So what do you do you call you email please, 640 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: and they say no, no, no, no, pay your annual fees. 641 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: Call loan Star Transfer instead. Stop calling the time share company. 642 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: You already know their answer. Call Loan Star Transfer. This 643 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: is a family business. They've been doing this for a 644 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: long time. Over twenty thousand timeshare owners are free, legally 645 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: and permanently free of their timeshare because they called lone 646 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Star Transfer. 647 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: They're successful ninety nine percent of the time. 648 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: Just call them and they'll get you out, all right, 649 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: eight four four three one zero two six four six, 650 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: We'll be back. 651 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 11: I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents 652 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 11: and my pregnant daughter. 653 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 12: I worry about that because then it gives people. 654 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 11: The option to say, well, bars and restaurants are open. 655 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 11: Then I can have twenty people over for Thanksgiving, and 656 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 11: so I don't like it to be any number. I 657 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 11: like it to be keep it to your immediate household. 658 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I've almost said. I almost forgot that the 659 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: interviewer used to sit so far away during the interviews. 660 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: It's such a stupid time. 661 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: And remember remember that evil witch you just saw there 662 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: About the time that interview wrapped up, she popped the 663 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: micro she popped the ear piece oute of her ear 664 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: and went and partied with all of her extended family. 665 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of people who run this country. 666 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Now joining me now my friend comedian Dave Smith. He 667 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: hosts the part of the Problem podcast, which I would 668 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: highly recommend. 669 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 5: Dave. 670 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: I still get angry about all that crap I do, 671 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: but it's so ridiculous when I see the old videos 672 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: and just. 673 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: The laughter comes out of me. 674 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: Man, what a what a ridiculous nation we turned into 675 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: because of a chess cold. 676 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, good to see you, Jesse. 677 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 6: And it is even as you're playing that clip, like 678 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 6: I haven't seen that one in forever, and. 679 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: It is just like it's like, was it all a dream? 680 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: Did that really? 681 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 6: Did we really allow our nation to be so degradated 682 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 6: as humiliated that this by the way, you know what 683 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 6: I completely forgot about it is like, oh, yeah, remember 684 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 6: they had that death count up on the side of 685 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 6: sea and then for the entire year of twenty twenty 686 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 6: until Joe Biden got sworn in and then they just 687 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 6: pretended like it didn't exist anymore. But it was just 688 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 6: it was what a wild time and of you know, 689 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 6: watching the as I was just watching some of the 690 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 6: Fauci hearings. It's just amazing how much they all have 691 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 6: to walk away from it, like they can't. They can't 692 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 6: defend one inch of the insanity. 693 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: No, the can'ts No one can. 694 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 11: Now. 695 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 1: All you get is either flat out denials or they'll 696 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: get this candy. 697 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 2: I can't say that word on a family show. 698 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: That you get this response of well, nobody knew, which. 699 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: Is of course garbage. Tons of people knew. 700 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: They were all the people who got censored off of 701 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: social media. Speaking of Burks here she was along those lines. 702 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 13: Do you think there is any veracity to some of 703 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 13: the Republican accusations that there was an effort to discredit 704 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 13: the lab leak theory. 705 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 12: I think early on people did take very definitive sides, 706 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 12: and it did divide along party lines, and we're still 707 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 12: suffering from that four years later in a whole set 708 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 12: of issues related to pandemic and pandemic preparedness. 709 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 14: Sure, but on the laveleak specifically, you think that happened. 710 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 12: I do think it happened. 711 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: It was a love leak. We know they covered it up. 712 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: They just they lie about everything. 713 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, as is often the case, they 714 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 6: kind of project this thing onto the Republicans that I 715 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 6: wish was true. Like they're like, well it it was 716 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 6: a partisan issue, and the Republicans were all talking about. 717 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry. 718 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,959 Speaker 6: The overwhelming majority of Republicans tucked their tail between their legs, 719 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 6: said yeah, yeah, yeah, LAB leak is a conspiracy, and 720 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 6: then proceeded to push lockdown policies just like the Democrats did. 721 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 6: There's a couple of exceptions, you know, obviously Dessanta's walked 722 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 6: back lockdowns in Florida. 723 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: Nome was solid on it the whole way through. But 724 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: that's it. 725 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 6: Everybody, every other Republican was just as bad as the 726 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 6: Democrats on this. But look, they there's such an asymmetry 727 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 6: here where she goes, well, there was this tendency to, 728 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 6: you know, plant your foot in the ground and stick. 729 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 2: With your side of the issue. 730 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, but the asymmetry there is that everyone 731 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 6: from all of the halls of power, including both political parties, 732 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 6: the entire corporate media, and the tech overlords all decided 733 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 6: that you would have your life ruined if you talked 734 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 6: about this coming from the LAB, which was obvious by 735 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 6: April of twenty twenty I mean, I remember the first 736 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 6: time I heard it was in April of twenty twenty. 737 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 6: Was the first time that I heard that there were 738 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 6: three or four scientists from the Wuhan lab who had 739 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 6: been hospitalized in late November to early December with COVID 740 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 6: like symptoms. And that was about it for me. I 741 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 6: was like, Okay, well, then, obviously this is what happened. 742 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 6: They already knew that the bats that they thought had 743 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 6: it weren't within a couple hundred miles of the wet markets. 744 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: It just none of it made any sense. 745 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 6: It was obvious what this was from the beginning, and 746 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 6: their side covered it up because they funded gain and 747 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 6: function research at this lab, so it's quite a cope 748 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 6: to spin that as well. 749 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: Both sides just dug in like. 750 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I forgot we all got it from a 751 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: bowl of bat soup. They actually sold that to us, 752 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: like I just can't. 753 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: I can't leave these people. 754 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: And to reinforce Dave's point, almost every single republic and 755 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: there are a couple he didn't name, there ran Paul 756 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey types, but almost every one of. 757 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: Them stood there the stupid mask. 758 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: On bragging that about how vaccinated they were it was pathetic. 759 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: You know what along those lines, Dave, is that why 760 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: we're never going to get a reckoning. 761 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 2: I'm not naive. I want one. 762 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: I want all these people rested and thrown in federal prison. 763 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: But I know this is never going to happen, and 764 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: I just I have this theory that it's never going 765 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: to happen because we would have to throw so many 766 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: from our side right in there beside them. 767 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 768 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 6: Well, listen, first of all, you're absolutely right to point 769 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 6: out Massi and round Paul, who were both heroic during 770 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 6: the whole thing. There are a handful of Republicans who 771 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 6: are truly outsiders, and I don't just mean on the 772 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 6: COVID issue, but on other issues in general. You have 773 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 6: people like Matt Gates and Marjorie Taylor Green and people 774 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 6: like that who do not They're not simply with the party. 775 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 6: But I think the reality that we live under is that. 776 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 6: Look Donald Trump say in twenty sixteen when he ran 777 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 6: and won the White House, he was as much a 778 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 6: repudiation of the Republicans as he was of the Democrats. 779 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 6: I mean, he told Jeb Bush to his face that 780 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 6: his brother lied us into war. And Donald Trump was 781 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 6: he was essentially a third party candidate, winning from within 782 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 6: one of the major parties. But the problem that we 783 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 6: have is that the establishment of the Republican Party, like 784 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 6: not the six people we just named, but everyone else, 785 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 6: is indistinguishable from the establishment of the Democratic Party. And 786 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 6: whether you know, obviously COVID was a major issue, they 787 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 6: were identical on that. So when it comes to monetary policy, 788 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 6: foreign policy, government spending money, you know, like I said, 789 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 6: monetary policy, when it comes to the shadowy three letter 790 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 6: agencies who have a lot more control over our government 791 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 6: than our elected officials, almost every issue that matters. If 792 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 6: you run down the list, there is no daylight between 793 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 6: the establishment of the Democratic Party and. 794 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 2: The Republican Party. 795 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 6: And so yeah, in order to have any real change 796 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 6: in this country, or to even get an investigation, let 797 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 6: alone an investigation we could actually trust that would actually 798 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 6: shed some light on anything, You're going to have to 799 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 6: make good on Donald Trump's original promise of draining the swamp. 800 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: And that's no small undertaking. 801 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 6: And if Donald Trump's going to get that right this time, 802 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 6: he's going to have to be much much better at 803 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 6: appointing people around him, appointing real outsiders and not swamp creatures, 804 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 6: and he's going to have to be willing to kind 805 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 6: of Malay style take an acts to the federal government 806 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 6: that means abolishing, abolishing agencies, drastic cuts and government spending. 807 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 6: I'm not sure I've seen any indication that he's really 808 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 6: learned this lesson yet and he's up to it for 809 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 6: round two. 810 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 2: But we'll say, oh, gosh. 811 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: What if what if someone were to cut government agencies 812 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: to zero? 813 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 4: Gosh? 814 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: That would be glorious. You know what. 815 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: I can't possibly let you go without playing this little. 816 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: Back and forth you had with Chris Cuomo. Here it was. 817 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 15: And by the way, I don't like what people did 818 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 15: the Joe Rogan about ivermectin. 819 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't who did it? 820 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 14: No, no, no, yes you did, dude, find the quits 821 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 14: you shamed Joe Rogan. 822 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: Hold on, let's play the quart. 823 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 14: Getting injecting drugs for animals and horse. 824 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 15: And people telling them to what person you know you 825 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 15: talk about like, you know, cancel culture and who to 826 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 15: shame ivermectin a de wormer. 827 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 4: Really, they are. 828 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: Shaming themselves, That's what it is. They're shaming them. 829 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 14: So you're taking a d warmer right now. You can't 830 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 14: apologize for that this. You weren't being clear that it 831 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 14: was this. 832 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 4: And you know that. 833 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 14: Dude, you're being so dishonest right now. You were talking 834 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 14: about ivermectin, the drug. You were not talking about this 835 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 14: version of ivermectin. 836 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: Come on. 837 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 4: I was responding to a. 838 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 15: Situation where we were told that this is what people 839 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 15: were searching out to take and nobody knew what it 840 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 15: was going to do to them. Look, I'm taking the 841 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 15: drug right now. Obviously I don't think it's all poison. 842 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: They I'll just let you have it, buddy. 843 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 6: Oh man, I mean, look, I don't know what I 844 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 6: could even add to that that you didn't see right there. 845 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: It was a very surreal moment. 846 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 6: It's it's surreal for me because I'm you know, I'm me, 847 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 6: and here I get this one on one debate with 848 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 6: the guy who had the biggest show on CNN at 849 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 6: the time when all of this was happening, and I 850 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 6: was kind of curious going into it. I was like, 851 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 6: what is he possibly going to say? What could his 852 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 6: defense for all of this possibly be? And then it's 853 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 6: just that just lying through his teeth. Oh I never 854 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 6: did that. And then when the video comes up of 855 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 6: him blatantly doing that. He actually tried to say that 856 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 6: he wasn't demonizing ivermectin in general. He was just demonizing 857 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 6: people taking the veterinarian version of ivermectin, like as if 858 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 6: you got it prescribed for a horse and then you 859 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 6: took it, which obviously was never what him or anyone 860 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 6: at CNN was talking about. They were talking about Joe Rogan, 861 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 6: who clearly got it from a doctor and prescribed him 862 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 6: the people version of ivermectin like. 863 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: It was just look, it was it again. 864 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 6: It was very similar to me to Fauci in his 865 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 6: testimony yesterday when he was saying that, oh, you know 866 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 6: what was it that we we were just saying that 867 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 6: the vaccine stopped you from getting it or transmitting the 868 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 6: virus in the first wave. We were never saying it 869 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 6: through the second and third wave, even though we all 870 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 6: remember this wasn't that long ago. I mean, it's like 871 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 6: we all remember you saying this the whole way through 872 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 6: and never backing off of that, and then as it 873 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 6: became clear that the vaccine didn't work, you just doubled 874 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 6: down and doubled down again. It's just they're obviously liars, 875 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 6: But I did think one of the beautiful things about 876 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 6: that debate, and I'm very grateful to Patch Pitt David 877 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 6: for setting it up. 878 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: Was that I thought that was clear. 879 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 6: You know, they did a poll afterward and they got 880 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 6: around thirty thousand people voted in it, and I took 881 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 6: ninety six percent. 882 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: Four percent thought he won the debate. 883 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 6: And you as you know Jesse, four percent of people 884 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 6: are trouns, so he got the trunds vote, but I 885 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 6: took the rest. And that's a I just I thought 886 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 6: that was like, okay, well that's pretty one sided. 887 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: Everyone could see what's up here. 888 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 6: Like these guys who had so much, so much like 889 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 6: belief and passion as they were shaming the rest of Americans, 890 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 6: but when they're actually pushed, they collapsed like the house 891 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 6: of cards that they are. 892 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 2: I was wonderful to see. 893 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: And plus if all his people were they are technically 894 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 1: undecided voters. 895 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 2: Anyway, day, thank you, brother, I. 896 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: Will see you very very shortly. We have lightened the mood. Next, 897 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: by the way, it is d Day. You like history stuff, 898 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: the first TV dot com slash history. You go sign 899 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: up there. I do all kinds of history specials. You 900 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: enjoy them, all right, light the mood next, all right, 901 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: it is time to lighten the mood. And I get 902 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: people asking me a lot these days, Jesse, what do 903 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: we show our kids on TV? 904 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't watch modern day television with all 905 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: the filth on there. What do you show them? 906 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, you know what my mom 907 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: showed me when dad. 908 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: Was at work. 909 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: If I got to watch TV, older shows, I was 910 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: watching Andy Griffiths Show and Mary Tyler Moore. 911 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 2: What can you show your kids? You'll find some, mister Rogers. 912 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 16: Boys are boys from the beginning. If you were born a. 913 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 2: Boy, stay a boy. 914 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 16: Girls are girls right from the start. If you were 915 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 16: born a girl, you stay a girl and. 916 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 17: Grow up to be a lady. Everybody's fancy, everybody's fine, 917 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 17: Your body's fancy, and so is my. 918 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 16: Only girls can be the mummies. Only boys can. 919 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 17: Be the daddies. Yes, sir, everybody's fancy, everybody's fine, Your 920 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 17: body's fancy, and so is mine. 921 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: So wholesome. You miss it, don't you? I miss it too? Anyway, 922 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: I seeable