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Speaker 4: Up, Timpertu, Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, take it over. Here's

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Speaker 5: I mean, Ron Wolfley. You know you fashion yourself as

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Speaker 1: You had me at the Magna Carta, Paul.

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Speaker 1: There no doubt about it, PAULI. It is a still

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Speaker 1: Paully, Can I tell you right now this was my

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Speaker 1: Think about bat ball, stop it. You play defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: Balall Nichols, this guy, Durability is the word, not grease, Baul,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a real problem when Kayzier White went

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Speaker 5: edge rusher Pro Bowler Kyle Vanenbosch, Right, he was all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, and as is the case here, versatility man.

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Speaker 1: When you think about it, Sean Murphy Bunting, I really

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Speaker 5: He wore zero last year for Tennessee, and we're gonna

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Speaker 5: ask him, Okay, Sewn, does that have something to do

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Speaker 5: We'll talk to Sean Murphy Bunting when we come back.

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Speaker 5: He joined the Cardinal season ticket priority list twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: by santan Ford and Gilbert, one of the Cardinals' newest

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Speaker 1: Next, it's intercepted the thirty down a sideline to the

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Speaker 6: It's Murphy Bunty to the thirty to the twenty to

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Speaker 7: Sex has it deflected and it looks like it's intercepted.

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Speaker 7: Sean Murphy Bunting got the hands down there accepted by

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Speaker 4: Bubbles of all the fire side pets scooped up.

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Speaker 3: It's picked up by Murphy Bunting, running white to left

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Speaker 7: Going oh the girl interception and on the return Sean

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Speaker 1: Right on jol.

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Speaker 7: Sean Murphy Bunting and boring his hit lost the ball.

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Speaker 5: Sean Murphy Bunting has made the play, play maker, difference maker,

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Sean Murphy Bunting, Welcome Sean.

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Speaker 4: Let's go appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: So you use the word crazy a couple of times,

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Speaker 4: Words, man, Just the opportunity. You know, as a kid,

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Speaker 5: Do you have that moment when you were signing the deal,

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Speaker 4: It was, And you know, I try my best not

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Speaker 5: Sean Murphy Bunting is our guest. So you wore the

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Speaker 4: You know what? That would be a question for them,

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Speaker 5: You mentioned that the Cardinal coaches see something in you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they see a dog pretty much playing as simple.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I do, and so we believe in

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Speaker 5: You know, what was that like? Meeting Jonathan gannon JG

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Speaker 4: He was hype. He was hype, you know, and instantly

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Speaker 4: I was instantly smiled. Came to my face when he

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Speaker 5: Well, and that's his position, that's what he coached up

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Speaker 5: Sean Murphy Bunting is our guests. When you were in Tampa,

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Speaker 4: I believe they're going to play me on the outside

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot from him and just being a

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Speaker 4: mastermind behind it all. It was opportunities where I would

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Speaker 4: go in his office and we would sit down and

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Speaker 4: not even talk about ball, but just be able to

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Speaker 4: just go and talk to him as as a mentor

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Speaker 4: and as a person. And so he's a guy that I,

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Speaker 4: you know, I trusted, and he was a guy that

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Speaker 4: believed in me and always made sure my confidence wasn't

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Speaker 4: at the all time high. So forever grateful for him

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Speaker 4: and our and our relationship and the opportunity to be

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Speaker 4: able to say I played for him and want a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl with him. And you know, me and his

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Speaker 4: family are close, My mom and his wife are close.

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Speaker 4: And so he's a guy that's always going to be

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Speaker 4: in my corner and always you know, excited for me.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned Sean Murphy Bonting is our guest, Cardinal's brand

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Speaker 5: new starting cornerback. You mentioned highs and lows in your career.

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Speaker 5: Was there a moment a low was a turning point

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Speaker 5: that was sort of pivotal that okay, you know, and

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Speaker 5: if you've remembered that ever since.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't necessarily say it was a low, right,

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Speaker 4: but there was an opportunity where at one point I

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Speaker 4: was a starting corner. At another point I was replaced,

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Speaker 4: and then I got back into the lineup, and then

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Speaker 4: I was replaced again, and so it just you know,

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Speaker 4: not even saying that it was a low in my career,

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Speaker 4: but just a low for me mentally at one point,

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Speaker 4: you know, just being down on myself just a little

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Speaker 4: bit enough to disrupt my piece, you know, disrupt the

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Speaker 4: things that was going on, and I allowed it to

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Speaker 4: maybe trigger to some other things that maybe I didn't realize,

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Speaker 4: you know. So, like I said, I've always worked hard.

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Speaker 4: I've always worked for an opportunity just to be put

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Speaker 4: in a situation like this. And all I've ever really

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Speaker 4: wanted was just a team to be able to invest

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Speaker 4: their time into me just as much as I want

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Speaker 4: to invest my time into them. And you know, just

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Speaker 4: be ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Were you ready to meet Kyler? So you met Kyler?

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Speaker 5: Tell us about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I met k one. I seen him when he

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Speaker 4: was outside working and then he came in for you know,

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Speaker 4: a little bit. He called me over. I was like,

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Speaker 4: what's up, bro, you know, just talking to him whatever.

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Speaker 4: He was just like you ready to go? I'm like absolutely,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I told him, you know, we chop

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Speaker 4: it up, you know. Later on, well, obviously when he

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Speaker 4: was done with his workout, I was done doing what

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Speaker 4: I was doing. But yeah, man, been a big fan

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Speaker 4: of his game since, you know, since he got into

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Speaker 4: the NFL. I was telling the media earlier. You know,

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Speaker 4: when I play Madden Franchises with a bunch of my

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Speaker 4: buddies all the time, I always draft him.

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Speaker 1: He's great.

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Speaker 4: He's always the guy that I go get, and so,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's just kind of funny now, you know,

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Speaker 4: being a teammate of his and being able to compete

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Speaker 4: with him and against him as well, just on a

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Speaker 4: day to day basis, just making each other better, just

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Speaker 4: working and grinding and you know, ultimately just trying to

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Speaker 4: get that same goal.

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Speaker 5: He's one of those guys known throughout the league. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: Buddha Baker the same. So you watch some of Buddha's

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Speaker 5: film and you taught yourself to kip up his signature move.

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Speaker 5: I did Okay, now we had to specify it. Be

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Speaker 5: sure here do you do it without any use of

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Speaker 5: the hands, because he gets up off the turf no

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Speaker 5: hands whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: See, I don't think I'm there yet, but I use

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Speaker 4: I use my hands a little bit, but I don't

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Speaker 4: use the momentum. You know. I don't roll into it.

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Speaker 4: I just prop the hands up, kicked my feet up,

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Speaker 4: and I get it. But I just learned how to

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Speaker 4: do it three weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, you'll be good to go by Katie.

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Speaker 4: I'd actually just I actually just did it in the

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Speaker 4: full sweatsuit, no warm up or anything in the weight room.

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Speaker 4: I actually scared the strimp coach when he came out

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Speaker 4: because he didn't see the me on the ground. And

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Speaker 4: I did it, and I'm gonna do it right now.

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Speaker 4: As soon as I get done, I'm gonna do it

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Speaker 4: again because I want to show you that I can

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Speaker 4: actually do it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we'll get some video of that and send it out.

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Speaker 4: It's proof, Okay, I'm living proof.

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Speaker 5: That's good. I love the competitor in the mall already.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: You can see why Jonathan getting and Nick Ross and

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Speaker 5: Monia supporter or on board with Sean Murphy. He's ready

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Speaker 5: to compete right here in the radio studio. Sean, thank you,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: There you go, a.

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Speaker 5: Big welcome from the Big Red it is. It is

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Speaker 5: Free agency week and we continue with this addition to

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Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert,

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Speaker 5: we are Sandtan for let's look at that. The Raiders

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Speaker 5: have a touchdown. What Nichols?

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Speaker 3: The Raiders pick it up and rumble in the end

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Speaker 3: zone below. Nichols just grabbed it from right on the turf,

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Speaker 3: snap back to pass pressure.

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Speaker 7: Again off the end sat for their safety.

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Speaker 4: Nichols John squished.

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Speaker 7: It to the tarn had the Raiders defense.

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Speaker 5: How's that safety? Yeah, that should be an analytic a

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Speaker 5: squish from a defensive lineman right there, Browall Nichols. By

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Speaker 5: the way, his first career sack was against Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 5: His second career sack was against Kirk Cousins. He said

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Speaker 5: earlier today the next guy's on his list, anyone in

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals division. So that was a good answer on

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Speaker 5: that front. It's the Big Red Rage presented by santan

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Speaker 5: Ford and Gilbert, Paul Calvicy, Ron Wolfley and special thanks

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Speaker 5: again to Sean Murphy Bunting, who, by the way, he

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Speaker 5: vowed he would do the kip up once we were

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Speaker 5: done with the interview, and he did just that. As

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Speaker 5: you know, Ron will right in this here radio studio,

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Speaker 5: he cleared out the chairs and he did a couple

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Speaker 5: of takes of Buddha's kip up.

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Speaker 1: Paul like that is truly incredible, right there. So now

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals have two guys that will actually do

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Speaker 1: kip ups on the field. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 5: Two guys more importantly, who I think are really going

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Speaker 5: to push each other, as if Buddha and like Jalen

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Speaker 5: Thompson don't push each other enough already. But you see

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Speaker 5: a common thread in the type of player that Mantias

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Speaker 5: support and Jonathan Gannon that they have designs on adding

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Speaker 5: to the locker room and the culture, the self motivated types.

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Speaker 5: The Sean Murphy Bunting, who's a zero star recruit, ends

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Speaker 5: up being a Round two draft selection by the time

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Speaker 5: he's done with college at Central Michigan, Right, And so

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Speaker 5: a guy who learns so much from Todd Bowles, and

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Speaker 5: now you go to a guy like Justin Jones, right,

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Speaker 5: six three, three oh nine, just signed a three year deal.

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Speaker 5: Started all seventeen games the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 5: uh wolf, when you talk about mindset, just listen to

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Speaker 5: what Justin Jones told the media today when they asked him,

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Speaker 5: what's the take to play in the line of scrimmage?

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Speaker 1: You gotta be a me and sob. That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just a man's game. Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're on that field.

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Speaker 8: You gotta understand it's people out there with kids and

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Speaker 8: you know, wives and molly taken care of and family,

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Speaker 8: all type of stuff. So when you on that field, like,

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Speaker 8: this is what it is. You know, like I eat,

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Speaker 8: you eat, and I'm not going hungry today, you know

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying. So that's what it is there.

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Speaker 1: It is, Paul.

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Speaker 5: I mean I was done listening to him. I was

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Speaker 5: in a three point stance. Are you getting made?

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Speaker 1: There? It is, Paul right there? That's exactly what you want.

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Speaker 1: You want a guy to make it personal. How do

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Speaker 1: you make it personal? Man? Think of your kids? You know,

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Speaker 1: good personal quickly out on the football field. Think of

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Speaker 1: your kids. Are taking care of your family? Oh my goodness, Paul,

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Speaker 1: that's what I want I want a guy who is

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Speaker 1: out on the football field that it's going to do

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Speaker 1: whatever the coaches want them to do. That's being a

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Speaker 1: good team player. But Paul, when it comes to playing

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Speaker 1: the game and how you play the game, man, that

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Speaker 1: is all about you, and you got to make it

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Speaker 1: personal because when you make it personal, you'll be internally motivated. Period.

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Speaker 1: You'll always be motivated internally. You don't want to be

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Speaker 1: externally motivated. You want to be internally motivated. And it

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Speaker 1: sounds like Justin Jones is like that. And I think

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Speaker 1: Justin Jones everything I talked about in the first beautiful

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Speaker 1: part of the program about Blane Nichols, Paul, I bet

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Speaker 1: Justin Jones is exactly the same way. Well.

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Speaker 5: They both told a great story of how they connected.

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Speaker 5: At the Senior Bowl. Blall Nichols showed up a couple

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Speaker 5: of days late. He was a late ad to the

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Speaker 5: senior ball roster, and the guy who immediately in the

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Speaker 5: defensive line room sat next to him and said, I

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Speaker 5: got you. I'm going to get you caught up to

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Speaker 5: speed on the playbook was Justin Jones.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: And despite not playing on the same team, they've actually

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Speaker 5: been tight through their NFL careers, and there they were

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Speaker 5: signing at the same time with the same team, and

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Speaker 5: now they're asking each other, where are you looking for

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Speaker 5: a house? Because I want to look in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: Whow And that's not all they share. Here's Ball Nichols

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Speaker 5: when he was asked by the media, Okay, what do

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Speaker 5: you want out of a defensive lineman?

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Speaker 9: I want us to be known as a very physical

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Speaker 9: defensive line stop to run, you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 9: that that's my goal. I want to bring in a

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Speaker 9: mindset into this organization, our D line room, just like

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Speaker 9: we the baddest more fools walking, point blank period and

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Speaker 9: nobody out physicals us.

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Speaker 1: That's just what it is, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 9: That's the message I want to pass off to my teammates,

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Speaker 9: to my D line meets, and to everybody that I

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Speaker 9: come across in this building. That's the type of mindset

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Speaker 9: we got to have every single day.

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Speaker 5: The baddest dudes walking. How's that resonate?

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Speaker 1: Boy? You know I love that all right? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know it's one thing to say it. Now, now

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Speaker 1: you got to go out and do it. Now you

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Speaker 1: gotta go out and you gotta back that off. But

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Speaker 1: once again, just knowing these guys and watching them on tape,

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Speaker 1: you can look at them and say, these guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna be run stoppers. Now listen, Justin Jones did have

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Speaker 1: four and a half sacks last year, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, career high hats. Seventeen quarterback hits, that's a career high.

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Speaker 5: So these guys played some of their best ball. And

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Speaker 5: of course there's always the fear. Is it because it

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Speaker 5: was a contract year?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 5: You know, the ghost of Jordan Phillips is gonna haunt

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Speaker 5: you know, every NFL team forever. There's just those guys.

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Speaker 5: But at first glance, first meeting with these types, I

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Speaker 5: don't see these two as those sorts of guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Paul, I mean again, you do have to

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Speaker 1: be concerned about that to some degree. Right now. I

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Speaker 1: think Bolon Nichols. You look at him and you're not

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Speaker 1: too concerned. He's been pretty steady for the most part

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Speaker 1: over the last four seasons. And Justin Jones, you know,

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Speaker 1: he did have his best year last year. There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt in terms of getting to the quarterback. But I

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Speaker 1: see these guys more as bookends and guys that are

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Speaker 1: willing to do the dirty work inside the blender, and

654
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Speaker 1: you know, you get inside that box that's the blender.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals gave up more rushing yards per game than

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Speaker 1: any team in the league last year per game, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be the case in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm gonna surmise we didn't even see the defensive

660
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Speaker 5: scheme that Nick Rolis and Jonathan Gannon really wanted to play,

661
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Speaker 5: just because they didn't have the pieces. They didn't have

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Speaker 5: the players. By the time we got December and January,

663
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Speaker 5: the d line was so decimated the lineups look more

664
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Speaker 5: like August than they really looked like during the regular season.

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Speaker 5: So I know, I'm intrigued just to see as to

666
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Speaker 5: what they dial up and what they scheme up once

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Speaker 5: they get legitimate NFL starting caliber players on all levels

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Speaker 5: of the defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say this quickly, Paulli. What

670
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Speaker 1: we did see from Nick ROWLSS of course and JG

671
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Speaker 1: is the solid front, the interior, three defensive lineman and

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Speaker 1: then two edge players of course, and then a Mike

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Speaker 1: linebacker who was Kaizier White against eleven personnel and rundown situation.

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Speaker 1: We saw them cover the three interior offensive lineman a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be Blall Nichols. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be Justin Jones and l J. Collier, Paul, and you LJ.

677
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Speaker 1: Collier if he can stay healthy. Paul, he was one

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Speaker 1: of the most impressive guys in training camp last year and.

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Speaker 5: He told us right here on the show that this

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Speaker 5: scheme is a great fit for him, that the Seattle

681
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Speaker 5: system was not a good fit for him. And Wolf

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Speaker 5: we saw him in August in that one game that

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Speaker 5: he played before he tore his bicep and he was

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Speaker 5: a problem for offensive lineman. All right, So you mentioned

685
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Speaker 5: the linebackers in Kaizer White. Mac Wilson from New England

686
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Speaker 5: met the media today and they asked him about getting

687
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Speaker 5: paired up with Kaizer White and he sort of raised

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Speaker 5: an eyebrow and gave kind of a wry smile as in,

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Speaker 5: just way, do you see what we cook up? It

690
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Speaker 5: was a really sort of an interesting look. That's said

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Speaker 5: it all. But this Mac look. Cardinals had issues at

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Speaker 5: times covering the running back, covering the tight end, but

693
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Speaker 5: then also dial him up off the edge like New

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Speaker 5: England did. And I threw this name out to Darren

695
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Speaker 5: Urban because he's one of the speedier linebackers in the

696
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Speaker 5: game right now. Daryl Washington and what the Cardinals are

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Speaker 5: able to do with Daryl Washington either as the weak

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Speaker 5: side inside off the edge at times. Do you think

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Speaker 5: maybe Mac Wilson is that sort of X factor you

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Speaker 5: can dial up? Yeah, hesitating aead.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just saying, Daryl Washington. You know the way

702
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Speaker 1: I feel about this guy. He was incredible, He truly was.

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Speaker 1: I think that Mac has got a lot more butt

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Speaker 1: to him than Daryl Washington had. I think he could

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Speaker 1: actually hold up. I think what's interesting about this poll

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Speaker 1: and maybe the rise smile that was on Mac Wilson's face, Paul,

707
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Speaker 1: there's a real possibility. I think this is just me

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Speaker 1: and there could be as soon as Cardinal coaches hear this,

709
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Speaker 1: they could be laughing hysterically Paul as they're listening to this.

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Speaker 1: But I think Mac Wilson might actually be the mic,

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Speaker 1: and then Kayzer might actually be the weak side inside. Now, look,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that Kayzer isn't the one who's going

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Speaker 1: to be calling the defense. He will be calling the defense.

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Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if Mac Wilson, who weighs two hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty six pounds. Some people have him listed at

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty eight pound as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: and you've got Kayzer at two hundred and thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Maybe somewhere in there, maybe there's a situation that mac

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Speaker 1: Wilson might play the mic and Kayzer the weak side inside.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's a great observation, and you're right. You know,

721
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Speaker 5: Darrel Washington hindsight his rookie year, he was in his

722
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Speaker 5: two twenties, like he got down and then he put

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Speaker 5: on wais as his career progressed. But yeah, that is

724
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Speaker 5: really interesting. What's also interesting is he only played twenty

725
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Speaker 5: seven percent of the defensive snaps for New England. Now

726
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Speaker 5: at the end of the year he got a lot

727
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Speaker 5: more snaps on defense because he's a special team stand out.

728
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Speaker 5: But that's where the reaction from a lot of Patriots

729
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Speaker 5: fans and media members came in. They're like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 5: this guy showed a lot. He bawled out in the

731
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Speaker 5: last six games. What is New England doing losing him?

732
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Speaker 5: And apparently they did not have designs on losing him.

733
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Speaker 5: But I don't know if it's money, Austin's sport knowledge.

734
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Speaker 5: You know of that New England franchise, having spent fifteen

735
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Speaker 5: years there. I don't know what it is, but it

736
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Speaker 5: seems like they made a point of going after him.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm real curious how he's deployed.

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Speaker 1: Paulie I said to him. I talked to him today.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Mac Wilson, I had a

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Speaker 1: conversation with him today and I said to him, why

741
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Speaker 1: did you seem to get so much better at the

742
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Speaker 1: end of the season, And without hesitation, Paul he said, opportunity.

743
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Speaker 1: I was given the opportunity. Man. Now he's going to

744
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Speaker 1: be given the opportunity here in a big time way.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 5: And you're right. Kaiser White was the starting mike linebacker

747
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Speaker 5: for the Chargers. He thought he had his best season.

748
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Speaker 5: He went to the Eagles, he was weak side inside,

749
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Speaker 5: and then he came back to the Cardinals as the MIC.

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Speaker 5: He's played both and he's excelled at both. It's a

751
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: great observation. In the Cardinal season ticket priority list twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four, home opponents include the Bears, Chargers, Patriots, Jets, Lions, Commanders,

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Speaker 5: and of course the NFC West. Go to azcardinals dot

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Speaker 5: com slash Priority list for more DJ Humphreys Jonah Williams

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Speaker 5: their next on The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan

756
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Speaker 5: Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 1: Boll I what a good job at the point of

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Speaker 1: attack right there and say like DJ Humphreys got a

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00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: nice block, huge hole. Great job by DJ Humphreys at

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Speaker 1: the part. Who has that look in their eye? No

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Speaker 1: back down?

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Speaker 10: You know, that's the That's the part I think I'm

763
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Speaker 10: looking forward to most, when that fighter flat comes.

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna swing, who's gonna run? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 10: I want a bunch of swingers. So I mean's just

766
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Speaker 10: that sound the wheel. I'm sorry that was stretch. That

767
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Speaker 10: was so strange. I want I want a bunch of fighters.

768
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Speaker 10: I should have said I want a bunch of fighters.

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Speaker 1: So, like I said, though, that that's.

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Speaker 10: The part I'm looking for to most, not the swinging

771
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Speaker 10: part that was that was a little strange.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys we bleeped that out.

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Speaker 5: See he didn't even need the medium. He certainly didn't

774
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Speaker 5: need the two of us on this show. I mean

775
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Speaker 5: he was basically self contained. I mean he was you

776
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: know him and Justin Pugh. I mean, that's one plus

777
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: one equals three when those guys are on the mic.

778
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Speaker 5: But it's that sort of personality that made him one

779
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Speaker 5: of the most popular players in recent hit of the

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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals. DJ Humphries, first round pick twenty fifteen, didn't

781
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Speaker 5: even play a single snap his rookie year, as you remember,

782
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Speaker 5: and so much to his story. But at age thirty

783
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Speaker 5: and with a season any knee injury and a massive

784
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: cap number, I think he saw it coming. We all

785
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: saw it coming, and this week it became official. He

786
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 5: was released, and then the Cardinals went out and signed

787
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Speaker 5: Jonah Williams. We'll get into all that. It's a big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic

789
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Speaker 5: Ron Wolfley Well Wolf, What a joy was right all

790
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Speaker 5: those years we hosted this show with DJ Humphries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I know you feel exactly the same way.

792
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Speaker 1: The love and respect you have in your heart for

793
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Speaker 1: DJ Humphries, I feel that way about DJ as well.

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Speaker 1: It was the way he treated other people, in the

795
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Speaker 1: way he would impact his teammates as well. DJ. Things

796
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Speaker 1: were not all rosie for him when he started his

797
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Speaker 1: NFL career, and yet he was drafted extremely high, as

798
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Speaker 1: we all know. And yet at the same time you're

799
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Speaker 1: looking at it and you're thinking to yourself, man, is

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Speaker 1: he ever gonna get it? Well, he more than got

801
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Speaker 1: it and was extended not once but twice by the

802
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals because he is a good football player.

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Speaker 5: When he showed up as a rookie and he got

804
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Speaker 5: the nickname knee Deep, which he later revealed he found

805
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 5: that very offensive. He took that personally, and for him

806
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Speaker 5: to be named a four time team captain, I just

807
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: said it all about his growth as a player and

808
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Speaker 5: as a person. In fact, Kyler tweeted out, one of

809
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Speaker 5: the realists been a pleasure brother, hope all Cardinals fans

810
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 5: appreciate DJ Humphries. And then the mother of PJ Paris

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Speaker 5: Johnson Junior, my apologies, tweeted out, I'd like to express

812
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Speaker 5: my heartfelt gratitude to DJ Humphries for being an incredible

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Speaker 5: role model and big brother to my son. You're welcoming

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Speaker 5: and embrace of him and our family will always be

815
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Speaker 5: cherished and I'm forever grateful to you for that.

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Speaker 1: We love you, Paulie. That is so profound right there,

817
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Speaker 1: and by the way, that kind of impact when you

818
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Speaker 1: have you have your teammate's mother writing you on that

819
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Speaker 1: and that kind of impact right there, it makes me

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Speaker 1: think Paris Johnson Junior might return that at some point

821
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Speaker 1: in his career.

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Speaker 5: So here's the question. Now, where is he going to

823
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Speaker 5: play Paris Johnson Junior. Is he going to left tackle

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Speaker 5: where he played his last year at Ohio State that

825
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Speaker 5: he said he could have played with one practice last

826
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Speaker 5: year if needed, just to make the transition back to

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Speaker 5: the left side, or is he going to be the

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Speaker 5: right tackle? Well, the new tackle in town Jonah Williams,

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Speaker 5: who has played both sides as well. He was asked, well,

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Speaker 5: where are you destined with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: I know what I'm bringing to this team, and it's

832
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Speaker 6: great tackle play, and that's what I want to do.

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Speaker 6: You know, wherever the coaches want to put me, wherever

834
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Speaker 6: they decide to put me, That's what I'm going to do.

835
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Speaker 6: I've played significant snaps at both positions, and you know,

836
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Speaker 6: I think I can positively contribute to the team either way.

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Speaker 5: There you go, Jonah Williams Today, what's your gut?

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Speaker 1: Well, Polly, why wouldn't you give Paris Johnson junior the

839
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Speaker 1: first crack at leftop. He has all of the talent,

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Speaker 1: he's got all of the skills you need to be

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Speaker 1: an excellent left tackle in this league. He's got great feet,

842
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Speaker 1: he has great length, he has the wherewithal to hold

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Speaker 1: up at left tackle. And you took him number six overall.

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Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you see if the number six pick overall

845
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Speaker 1: from last year's draft is capable of being your franchise tackle,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't. You wouldn't. You're going to give him the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to see if he can hold up out there,

848
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Speaker 1: and again, you can make that determination just in preseason

849
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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 5: Well, in combined with the fact that Jonah Williams highly

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Speaker 5: drafted himself number eleven overall in twenty nineteen. His first

852
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Speaker 5: four years and some of it was marred by injury,

853
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Speaker 5: was the Bengals starting left tackle. And then they went

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Speaker 5: out before last season and got Orlando Brown to be

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Speaker 5: the left tackle and they moved him to right. Yes,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I didn't see his entire career with Cincinnati,

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Speaker 5: but the numbers do say that Jonah Williams had a

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Speaker 5: more effective season at right town than he did the

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Speaker 5: year before at left tackle. So the combination of those

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Speaker 5: two things, I'm with you in Paris Johnson Junior six

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Speaker 5: pick overall. Okay, throw them out there and let's see.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Pauli, and we all know that you need two

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Speaker 1: good tackles in today's NFL. If you want to protect

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Speaker 1: your queue, you need to right Pauli.

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Speaker 5: Ye, I mean absolutely, yep.

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Speaker 1: But listen, left tackle is still the most important tackle

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Speaker 1: when you have a right handed quarterback. There still is

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Speaker 1: a premium on that left tackle because the blind side matters,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. So you still want your best tackle protecting

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Speaker 1: your backside of your quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, NFL Network is reporting that Paris

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Speaker 5: Johnson Junior is going to the left side, so we'll

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Speaker 5: see if that's accurate or not. Yeah, how about this?

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Speaker 5: What about its impact on the draft, the fact that

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Speaker 5: you know have two starting tackles all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute, maybe the Cardinals are not going with

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Speaker 5: one of these tackles in round one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it means the first offensive lineman the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals will be an interior offensive lineman, and it might

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Speaker 1: be number twenty seven, it might actually be number thirty

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Speaker 1: five as well. Paul. I think it also means at

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Speaker 1: number four, you're going wide receiver. Whether it's Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: Junior Rome with Dunza, Maleak Neighbors, whoever it may be,

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Speaker 1: you're going wide receiver at number four. I think it

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Speaker 1: has a huge impact on the draft.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bet you or

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Speaker 5: wager on the whole. Are they going Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 5: at four or not? Because you know, hey, if he's there,

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Speaker 5: all I'm all about it. But let me say this, Wolf.

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Speaker 5: If this draft is historically deep in receiver and tackle, sure,

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Speaker 5: and what do you still need out there? You still

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Speaker 5: need an edge and you still need another corner.

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Speaker 1: So if and you need an interior offensive lineman as well. Sure,

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Speaker 1: if Grand Barton is there at number thirty five, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be screaming.

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Speaker 5: But I'm talking number four. I mean, if there's a

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Speaker 5: fourth quarterback and then somebody comes up and makes you

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Speaker 5: an offer you can't refuse, and you move down and

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Speaker 5: you maximize picks, yes, you you give up Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 5: But maybe you move down a little bit and you

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Speaker 5: still get a Dallas Turner or a Jared Burst. You

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Speaker 5: get that edge where Otherwise, where are you getting that

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Speaker 5: dynamic pass rusher off the edge? Did you see the

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Speaker 5: sort of money they just commanded in free agency?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI I did. But as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: are you saying you would not draft a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: at number four or make that your first round pick.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying at number four because it's so deep, you

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Speaker 5: can wait and get a receiver later. Wow, you can't

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Speaker 5: wait and get an edge later, and then maybe your

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Speaker 5: first selection in this draft is an edge, just based

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Speaker 5: on supply and demand.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to say this right now. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give Kyler Murray every option, every availability to go

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Speaker 1: out and be a monster in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: He needs targets, he needs options.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, what if that guy comes at number

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Speaker 5: four or maybe number six, that edge or that cornerback,

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Speaker 5: and then all you're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about moving back up like they did with Paris

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Speaker 1: John maybe Romadonsay is there.

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Speaker 5: It depends how far. Like, for example, there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of Cheddar. The Giants at six are gonna want quarterback

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Speaker 5: at four, So I believe it if you go back

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Speaker 5: to six, you can still maybe get a Dallas Turney,

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Speaker 5: you can still maybe get Terry on Arnold the best

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Speaker 5: edge guy in the best or romadonsay absolutely and get

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Speaker 5: more picks. So that's that's what's intriguing to me about

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Speaker 5: where the Cardinals currently stand going into the.

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Speaker 1: Draft, especially Paully. And here's a little tedbit for you.

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Speaker 1: If they sign Hollywood Brown, Hollywood Brown over the top

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Speaker 1: of Trey McBride, are you kidding me? You've got Roma

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Speaker 1: Dunsay out there, Michael Wilson as well, and James Connor

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Speaker 1: lined up and run down good luck defense of.

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Speaker 5: Course, when Calvin Ridley gets ridiculous money, that doesn't help.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't help my goodness. And all the cheddar out there

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Speaker 5: about how Kansas City supposedly is on the heels of

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Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown. We'll see about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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