WEBVTT - Avoiding the Holiday Shopping Hangover #045

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're discussing avoiding the holiday shopping hangover. Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going good, buddy? How the heck are you today? Going? Awesome? Awesome? So,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to let you know man, that I

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<v Speaker 1>have been riding my bike so much. We'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>For anybody that rides their bike a lot, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's so helpful to have an odometer on your bike,

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<v Speaker 1>just to kind of help you see how much you're riding,

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<v Speaker 1>how many miles you're going. And man, on my odometer,

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<v Speaker 1>just racked up sixteen hundred miles on my bike in

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<v Speaker 1>the past just over a year. Dude, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you, like, right down to Florida or something, take

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<v Speaker 1>the Silver Commets to Alabama? No, but if that's a challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>I will accept and make that happen. Dude, have you

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<v Speaker 1>been on the Silver Commet It literally runs from Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>to Alabama? No? But actually, it's funny you mentioned that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to this guy the other day. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like really old guy actually, and he bikes. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like eighty. He's like Katie. Okay, So yeah, legit,

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<v Speaker 1>old legit. But he rises his bike on the Silver

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<v Speaker 1>Common Trail every day. I know. No, it just first off,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a challenge to me to keep riding my bike,

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<v Speaker 1>not to get soft in your old age exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was still doing it was super impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it made me think, I need at some

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<v Speaker 1>point to challenge myself to do this bike from where

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<v Speaker 1>we live and go all the way to the state

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<v Speaker 1>border and then bike all the way back in one day.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to make that happen at some point, just

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<v Speaker 1>because that just sounds like a fun challenge to commit to. Yeah. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some beers and the paneers. We already said

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<v Speaker 1>beers and paneers together before. That's a nice ride. That's good,

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<v Speaker 1>like the little side bags. But yeah, for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Joel commutes pretty much every single day, you

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<v Speaker 1>commute to and from work on your bike. I will say, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting into that uber cold weather season and anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who is a big time bike rider knows that it

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<v Speaker 1>just becomes a little bit harder than yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 1>more uncomfortable, right that kind of fall time and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places is actually perfect falls great, but as

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit further into winter, it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to become those like dog days of super cold, and

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining that pace of you know, biking in to work

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<v Speaker 1>every single day is hard. I mean to do my darndest.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, my old friend Harry, who rides

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<v Speaker 1>his bike every day on the Silver Commet, he is

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<v Speaker 1>on the guy's name, har it's his name. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be my shining star. I'm going to look to him

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<v Speaker 1>as my beacon of of bike riding truth. So immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>just picture Clint Eastwood on a bike, because like I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>dirty Harry. Did you ever watch Then with your dad?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say, We'll say, Harry is kind of like Clint Eastwood.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty Harry. Yeah, I'm feeling it. Let's do it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Silver commets to Alabama. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>how far it goes into the state, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's well. I think we only at least from here

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<v Speaker 1>to the border. I think it's like forty five miles

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I would assume we could do

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<v Speaker 1>ninety miles around trip in a day, right, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to do that in college. Or there is this road

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<v Speaker 1>trip I won't go into the details, but we'd ride

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<v Speaker 1>our bikes from Athens down to Jacksonville for the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Florida game. There was a three day ride and the

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<v Speaker 1>longest day I think was a twenty miles, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. That sounds like a lot. Yeah, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter France levels, right, twenty miles, like the Lance Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>of riding the cargo bike. You Know, something I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about earlier today is I've been telling all my

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<v Speaker 1>friends about this because I am all about it. But coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been delaying my cup of coffee every day now

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<v Speaker 1>until either later in the morning or like mid afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because of this article. A friend of mine sense

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<v Speaker 1>and explained how like your QUARTERSOL levels in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of peak right when you wake up, and

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<v Speaker 1>they say to not drink coffee right away and instead,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want it to be effective, to delay it slightly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it's going to change my life, specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's keeping me from changed life. That's a big freaking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The same has changed my coffee drinking lafe. I'll say, okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>well it keeps me as well from getting a second cup.

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<v Speaker 1>And I work from home and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>that means just more wasted time because I'm getting up

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<v Speaker 1>and boiling the water. And if I'm drinking twice as

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<v Speaker 1>much coffee, man, that's twice as much. That's twice as

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<v Speaker 1>much coffee that I'm not having to purchase, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>make as well. I've just found it to be a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little hack that I've done recently to decrease the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of coffee I drink every day and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time save a buck. And have you felt like

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<v Speaker 1>you're dragging at all in the morning, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>most people when they wake up, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have like an automatic coffee maker and it turns on

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<v Speaker 1>and they smell the folders like brewing or something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recommend that first of all, or not drinking folders

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<v Speaker 1>or maxwill, but that's like something that people look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to or need. Almost was there like a period of

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<v Speaker 1>a few days where, like a drug addict, you felt

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<v Speaker 1>like that need and you had to kind of wean

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<v Speaker 1>yourself off. I will say, now that's getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit cooler. I do kind of miss having that hot

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<v Speaker 1>drink at breakfast, like we always do fried eggs in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, but only from a warm drink standpoint, so

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<v Speaker 1>I might start having maybe a small cup of tea

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<v Speaker 1>or something, but from a caffeine standpoint, no, man, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I found I just don't need it. And it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a few months, so I can't remember maybe as much

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<v Speaker 1>the effects initially, but yeah, I would totally check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we'll do, I'll throw a link up to

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<v Speaker 1>this article in our show notes. This kind of breaks

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<v Speaker 1>it down. How Yeah, your quartosol levels peak in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>around lunchtime, and so what they say is to instead

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<v Speaker 1>drink coffee like mid morning, so when those cortosol levels

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<v Speaker 1>drop and we kind of get a little groggy. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, dude, when I needed is that mid afternoon slump,

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<v Speaker 1>like around two o'clock or three o'clock. For me, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have my coffee otherwise I'm falling asleep at the

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<v Speaker 1>desk right in emails, and that's always bad. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the idea. I don't know if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>change my habits, but I'm gonna read this article and

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<v Speaker 1>at least give it a chance. In my brain, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure Harry doesn't drink his coffee until the afternoon. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy has a baller here. I'm just telling you

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<v Speaker 1>I still want to be like Harry I was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee. You wanna introduce our beer for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice segue, Matthew. Yesterday on the show, we are drinking

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<v Speaker 1>a Sierra Nevada nar Wall Imperial Stout, and this beer

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<v Speaker 1>has coffee in it and also dark chocolate. So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to talk about the beer with you, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this episode. Yeah. What's awesome about

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<v Speaker 1>this beer, too, man, is that this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>you can pretty much pick up in any grocery store

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<v Speaker 1>that carries decent craft beer. A lot of times on

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes, we have beers that are really rare, to

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<v Speaker 1>say the least. Sometimes they're illegal to get your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on because it might be homebrews. But yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I love about the beers that we enjoy is that

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<v Speaker 1>we like all the beers just about and we like

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<v Speaker 1>flouting the loss. We love that illegal beer. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>scoff law. Yeah, anybody who is into beer and especially

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<v Speaker 1>like stouts, you can easily find Sire In Nevada on

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<v Speaker 1>your shelf than our whale. It's here in about actually

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<v Speaker 1>normally known for kind of their hoppy beer offerings. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're more like pale ales and I p a s.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, I can't wait to talk about this stout

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and how it's completely out of here in

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada's wheelhouse, but how they make it so deliciously and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that later. So with that being said, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about avoiding the holiday shopping hangover. That's rajel.

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<v Speaker 1>With Black Friday coming up, this is a topic that's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely on people's minds. Specifically, we're talking about holiday shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to make sure that you are avoiding

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<v Speaker 1>that hangover. We don't want you paying for your holiday

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<v Speaker 1>shopping months to come into the next year. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt, the problem is that most people, when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to their holiday spending, they haven't really thought through

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<v Speaker 1>how much they're gonna spend, you know, how they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it. And so it turns out that most

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<v Speaker 1>people spend more money than they intended to spend, and

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't thought out well and budgeted oftentimes, then

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<v Speaker 1>those people find themselves in a shopping hangover after the holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>where the credit card bills come rolling in in January

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of hits them upside of the head,

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<v Speaker 1>like WHOA have that happened? Um? And and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>because of a lack of planning, a lack of intentionality

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to holiday spending and kind of letting

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<v Speaker 1>the joyous holiday season that is a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>get the best of them when it comes to how

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<v Speaker 1>they spend their money. That's right, man. So some quick stats,

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<v Speaker 1>shoppers typically spend more than a trillion dollars during the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas holiday a shopping season, and that is a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of money. And I saw another statuo that in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK that on average, somebody will spend half of their

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<v Speaker 1>monthly income. And so if you make like around fifty dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at close to two thousand dollars that you're

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<v Speaker 1>spending on holiday shopping. Wow, who are these people? Dud? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. I don't know what other people spending, but

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<v Speaker 1>my family does not spend anywhere near that. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I mean, you'll probably spend close to that

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<v Speaker 1>on a gift for me, But that's understandable, right. Podcasting buddies,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta do that for each other. Yeah, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>best friends. Dog. Yeah, you know, Wait, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get from me? Man, I was thinking of pony

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. Yeah, So ultimately, Matt, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to overspend be left with that debt on your

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards, so you'll be paying off all of next

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<v Speaker 1>year and you have to ask the question to why

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing this? Consumerism dominates our culture and it's

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<v Speaker 1>what we see in ads all around us, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it look festive and fun to get the free

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<v Speaker 1>shipping and start buying stuff for all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>you care about. That's what's fed to us. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what most people would think of. When

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<v Speaker 1>you stay the holidays, Their minds immediately go to shopping

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<v Speaker 1>and packages and gifts and paper and just you know

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<v Speaker 1>everything that goes along with that in dollar signs in

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<v Speaker 1>the eyeballs, that's where mind goes, right, So we would

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<v Speaker 1>make a push to mindfulness this time of year to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pushing back against that rampant consumerism. And the

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<v Speaker 1>only way you're going to be able to get through

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<v Speaker 1>the shopping season well, to actually buy the gifts that

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<v Speaker 1>you intend to buy and stick within a reasonable budget

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<v Speaker 1>is by planning ahead and staying organized. And we'll run

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<v Speaker 1>through those strategies and how to create that perfect holiday

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<v Speaker 1>money game plan right after the break. All right, Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back from the break, and yeah, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about some strategies. We're gonna talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about the overall game plan on how to approach holiday shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the first thing I want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you're planning ahead and that you're

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<v Speaker 1>staying organized. Specifically, we want you to make a list

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<v Speaker 1>of potential expenses, think about all the different things that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be spending money on, not just the gifts. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotten that together, fine where you can cut or

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate all together, because chances are you're gonna be dreaming

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger than maybe your pocketbook can handle. And we

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<v Speaker 1>understand that this is gonna be tough. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to ask yourself the question how much should

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<v Speaker 1>I spend for each person on my list and for

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<v Speaker 1>each individual that you have on your list. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be different and for you as the gift giver, right

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<v Speaker 1>as the shopper. This is a tough question. This is

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<v Speaker 1>cutting back and it's never something that is fun to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is something that is necessary to keep your

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<v Speaker 1>expenses down. Yeah, it's always helpful for me to remember

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<v Speaker 1>to when I'm creating that list that the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are on that list are usually people I care about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, right, And I know those people wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>me to spend money that I didn't have, um just

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get them a gift for the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>I would maybe you would give me that pony dog,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll make it happen. Fine, I'll work three

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<v Speaker 1>jobs just to get you that pony, but a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of tips, right in order to make that happen. Start

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<v Speaker 1>saving now, So how much do you want to spend?

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<v Speaker 1>Divide that out by the monthly amount that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to save. Think about doing that in an Excel spreadsheet. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're already in November. We're already closing in on

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<v Speaker 1>Black Friday, Cyber Monday. The holiday shopping season is getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be in full swing. So you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of time to start saving for this

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas right now. But you know what, most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about saving that Christmas money at all or until

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<v Speaker 1>next November. Yeah, so you still have some time at least,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's better than no time. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>start making that list now, start thinking now about what

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<v Speaker 1>you're spending is going to look like for this Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know what, You've kind of got a

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<v Speaker 1>head start thinking ahead about next Christmas. And it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>just so much easier when you're thinking about it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that far in advance. Yeah, man, And I'll totally

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<v Speaker 1>second that approach as far as decide how much that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to spend and dividing it out per month,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what we do. And I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks might push back against that because they think, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that just doesn't sound fun, right, that doesn't sound like Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't sound like the holidays. It just sounds

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<v Speaker 1>to formulaic and stiff. Like, No, that's just responsible, Like

0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that's what you do when you have an expense. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to your car insurance, if you pay your

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<v Speaker 1>car insurance once a year, because you get that discount,

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<v Speaker 1>that discounted rate, if you pay it all at once,

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<v Speaker 1>you divide out how much you need to set aside

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<v Speaker 1>every single month. Look at Christmas or whatever holiday that

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<v Speaker 1>you celebrate, look at it the exact same way. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an expense that's not an emergency. It comes every

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<v Speaker 1>year and you know that this is something you can

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<v Speaker 1>plan for. And we don't think about people that budget

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<v Speaker 1>accordingly for car insurance to be Scrooge like characters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but for some reason, that's how we think of people

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<v Speaker 1>that budget like that for Christma is that man, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like if you think it's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>like spontaneous and you're just like gonna whip out the

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<v Speaker 1>cash or you know, swipe their credit card without even

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, is the way that it's supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just irresponsible or you see that, Yeah, perfect

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<v Speaker 1>gift for someone that is way outside your price range.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I hate is the car commercials, but

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<v Speaker 1>the car sitting in the driveway with a giant red

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<v Speaker 1>bow on. Who the heck does that? Like nobody does that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But also don't forget about other holiday expenses like travel

0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.160
<v Speaker 1>house decorations. Right for us, that's something that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creeps up every year because we want the place

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<v Speaker 1>looking really good. Is we end up getting a bigger

0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.079
<v Speaker 1>tree or we want to add another wreath to the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>and so before you know it, Yeah, the holiday de

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<v Speaker 1>coorse kind of creeping up there. So we got although

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<v Speaker 1>last year, you've got a really sweet wreath for free

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of the road. Oh, we did. Should

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<v Speaker 1>I share that with us? Just I want people to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're super good at finding free stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road, and and that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice quality to have. You know why. It's because we

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<v Speaker 1>go on walks all the time, and we ride our bikes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like when you're riding your bikes

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to see stuff up close. If you're zipping

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<v Speaker 1>buy in your car, it just looks like trash. But

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<v Speaker 1>in our case, our neighbor was tossing out this four

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<v Speaker 1>foot wreath I saw her put out on the curb

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<v Speaker 1>when in years past I've seen her hanging on our house.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the size breath that they would punt on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of a Macy's. Yeah, it's pretty big, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, Kelly, are you putting that

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<v Speaker 1>on the curve? Is that a curb alert? Are you

0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna toss that? She's like, yeah, the lights don't work anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought to myself, no problem, I got more lights,

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<v Speaker 1>so dude, Yeah, we totally snatch that up. It's currently

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<v Speaker 1>up in the attic and we're gonna pull that out

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes time to decorate the house because it's

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful because the wrap lights around it. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>get free stuff like Matt, it makes it even easier

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<v Speaker 1>to budget, right, But you want to factor in all

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<v Speaker 1>those things, including Christmas cards, because cards, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of things that will break your budget because you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't factor them in. And those things you can plan

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<v Speaker 1>on right. You can plan ahead knowing that that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and most people just forget leave it out

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<v Speaker 1>because all they're thinking about are the gift buys. But

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<v Speaker 1>think about those other purchases you're gonna make during the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays too, And what you absolutely don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>is to wait until the last minute, you know, right

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<v Speaker 1>before Christmas. If you're waiting to make any of your

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<v Speaker 1>purchases until then, or even making your decisions as to

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna spend, then it's pretty much gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>too late. You're gonna ruin your bud it, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go way over and you know you're gonna be in

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of situation where you're gonna be paying for

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas well into the New Year. It's gonna be bad news, bears.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want that no way, So yeah, we would

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to start shopping now, right. The best deals

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<v Speaker 1>to be had, the best prices that you're gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to shopping for people you care about

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas are gonna be had in November, in early December.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're waiting till a few days before Christmas time,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out you are going to pay wait, wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>way too much. It's just like buying an airline ticket

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<v Speaker 1>the day before the flight takes off. That is like

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<v Speaker 1>the worst time you could potentially buy an airline ticket.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same thing goes with buying Christmas presents. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to buy while there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>competition happening, and let it be said, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of competition happening in that spear right their Target and

0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Amazon have announced, you know, free shipping for the holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's just so much competition here. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to take yourself out of that mix. By waiting until

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<v Speaker 1>the day before or two days before Christmas and hopping

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<v Speaker 1>into the mall, you're gonna pay full price. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pay way too much for everything. Yeah, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be that guy and also too man, not even

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<v Speaker 1>just with retail. But if you start shopping earlier, if

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<v Speaker 1>you start thinking about what it is that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase for an individual, say earlier that year, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance you could find something, even like at

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<v Speaker 1>a yard sale. And I know that sounds kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like cheap, right, you're gonna buy like a gift for

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<v Speaker 1>some day for Christmas at a yard sale. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you find something that you know that they want, or

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<v Speaker 1>something that is more of say an antique, that you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't buy a new anyway, well why not buy it

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<v Speaker 1>at a yard sale or a garage sale where you

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<v Speaker 1>can get it for crazy cheap. And so because you

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<v Speaker 1>started shopping early, like way early in June or July,

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to go ahead and get that gift, make

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<v Speaker 1>that purchase, and cross them off the list, and just

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<v Speaker 1>think about how less stressed out that's gonna make you

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<v Speaker 1>as well, all right, Matt, And yes, So one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that's going to help you actually stick to

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<v Speaker 1>that plan is to be able to keep a running

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<v Speaker 1>list with the names of the people you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get gifts for your right ideas down next to their names.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe keep it in the note tap on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's exactly. Yeah, that's what we do. I got

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<v Speaker 1>like a secret sort of note that's labeled differently. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's gonna go on there and try

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what it is. I'm gonna get her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's totally what I do. So you're saying Kate

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the type of person to take the tape off

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<v Speaker 1>the presence carefully and look inside and then wrap it

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<v Speaker 1>back up. No, man, don't you know what's funny is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think either of us are that way. I

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<v Speaker 1>was the kind of kid that if I accidentally stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>upon a gift that my parents said not hidden well enough,

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<v Speaker 1>or it was just kind of tucked behind something, I

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<v Speaker 1>would pretend I didn't see it because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin the surprise for myself. Specifically, I remember stumbling

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<v Speaker 1>upon Super Mario Brothers three. I knew I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to pretend that I didn't see it in order

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<v Speaker 1>in order to be surprised on Christmas morning. You try

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<v Speaker 1>to like erase the memory from your brain. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like control out, delete reset. So I was a sneaky

0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>kid at least for a few years, who knew lamely

0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 1>where my parents hit the presents, and oh yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>there was one spot and it wasn't hard to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have done better, mom, But no, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was easy to find and I would try

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<v Speaker 1>to sneak in there and look. But then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after a couple of years of that and realizing that

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<v Speaker 1>actually it made Christmas way more disappointing, I stopped. But yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely with you making that list and that way too,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like with shopping, right, if you start way early,

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<v Speaker 1>if you start thinking way early about the different gifts

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna get somebody, it allows you time to

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<v Speaker 1>be creative, allows gives you time to be thoughtful and

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<v Speaker 1>think of something that maybe you wouldn't have thought of

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<v Speaker 1>had you waited until the last minute or even the

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<v Speaker 1>month before. You know, when the when the clock's ticking,

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<v Speaker 1>you may not think of a certain gift. It just

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<v Speaker 1>may not come to mind. Yeah, there's nothing I hate

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<v Speaker 1>more than kind of being on this timer, this time clock,

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<v Speaker 1>where I have to find this perfect gift in thirty

0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.399
<v Speaker 1>days or less right, or I'm not gonna make the

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<v Speaker 1>cut off and it's gonna be a terrible Christmas for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I love thinking ahead because it gives me that chance

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<v Speaker 1>to throughout the year kind of be looking and find

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<v Speaker 1>something that is either a just the perfect gift or

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<v Speaker 1>be a great deal and just snack it when I

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.840
<v Speaker 1>see it. And so all of our shopping for our girls,

0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got two girls, five and three, all

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<v Speaker 1>of our shopping for them. For Chris, this is done already,

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<v Speaker 1>is really yeah. Man, So I say all this, but

0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Kate's kind of more in charge of our immediate family. Well,

0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Emily found a lot of good stuff, especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>all the Center aisle. So I don't know if anybody

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.240
<v Speaker 1>out there, all these shoppers, man, they know what's up.

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 1>The Center aisle especially oftentimes has great kids stuff and

0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>m look at that. Yeah, you're like, oh, that's a

0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>perfect gift. And so oftentimes Emily will buy that stocking

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 1>up for our kids for Christmas and also for other

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.359
<v Speaker 1>kid birthdays. But yeah, so keeping that list with the

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<v Speaker 1>names and making it kind of top of mind as

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<v Speaker 1>something that you check into periodically throughout the year, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good strategy for helping you save money and avoid overspending,

0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, right before Christmas. Yeah, that's true, man's overspinning, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like smart shoppers like used sales and coupons and

0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 1>credit cards with purchase protection, things like that. And we

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 1>talked about credit card purchase protection in our lesser known

0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.040
<v Speaker 1>credit card Benefits episode and it's already come back to

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<v Speaker 1>help me. So yeah, I think that's an important element

0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to this boom. That's right, man. However, even taking all

0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>that into account, it's still not justification, right for over consumption.

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 1>If you know yourself well and you know you might

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.440
<v Speaker 1>be tempted to overspend, use cash because it's not worth

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it to totally blow your budget and be stuck with

0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that holiday spending hangover. Yes, so, Matt and I we

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>do like credit cards for a lot of reasons, and

0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.639
<v Speaker 1>there are additional benefits if you buy things, you know

0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.399
<v Speaker 1>with the credit card that you don't get when you

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 1>buy with cash. But there is a huge caveat, and

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<v Speaker 1>the caveat is if you're not spending within your means,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're putting things on your credit cards that you

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<v Speaker 1>know you won't be able to pay off come January.

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.119
<v Speaker 1>That is when we would say avoid the credit cards,

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>take that temptation out of your life, put cash in

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 1>an envelope, and go that route because that is gonna

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>be the safest for your finances, that's gonna keep you

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:51.320
<v Speaker 1>from overspending, and it's just gonna kind of help you

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.080
<v Speaker 1>stick to that that budget that you've laid out for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So if credit cards are kind of that like Achilles

0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.119
<v Speaker 1>heel for you and you're not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it in check, then definitely stick with the cash method.

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<v Speaker 1>Another approach is to consider having an honest conversation with

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>your family, uh and friends, even about gifts and expectations.

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>This is something that even aside from having like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's pretend you're not even gonna do some sort of

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 1>huge Christmas or holiday gift exchange revamp, like you're just

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna have your typical spending, it's still worth it to

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<v Speaker 1>have those conversations where you're discussing what it is that

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you're expecting, what you're going to discuss, what it is

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to do or that you're not gonna do. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>These just are important things you need to communicate with

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.399
<v Speaker 1>your family and friends. You can't just say too that

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>we're using the term Christmas a lot. I think and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there are people that celebrate other holidays

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 1>prides of Christmas, So well, you want to get that

0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 1>out there that you know, whether you're celebrating Hanukkah, Christmas,

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.439
<v Speaker 1>another holiday, this time of the year, there's still this

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.679
<v Speaker 1>tendency to buy gifts that you can't afford. And so

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.399
<v Speaker 1>we're not trying to certainly alienate anyone who celebrates a

0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.360
<v Speaker 1>different holiday, but we just want to get that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter what it is, it's this time of where

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you want to buy people awesome things and appreciate them

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and show them how much you care. Yeah, you can

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>overspend and go into debt and celebrate Hanaka, yes exactly,

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly those eight crazy nights and way too much spending.

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, man. So so back to like the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations right with your family and friends, something that's I

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I kind of touched on, but set spending limits. This

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 1>might seem kind of lame, right to say that, like, Okay,

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we're only going to spend ten dollars per adult, but

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:26.159
<v Speaker 1>if you can kind of turn that on its head

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<v Speaker 1>and think about how much fun you could have having

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<v Speaker 1>to find a gift for like your cousins who are

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>now adults, and you have to buy a gift like

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<v Speaker 1>something creative, something funny, something we're going to really have

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a good time for only ten dollars. Talk about that.

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 1>That's something that needs to be discussed because on the

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<v Speaker 1>flip side of that, you don't want to be the

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 1>person that doesn't follow the spending limits and goes and

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.679
<v Speaker 1>spends fifty bucks on like a bottle of nice Scotch

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.360
<v Speaker 1>or something, or for every everybody, which I would love.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if somebody wants to give me a

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>bottle of nice Scotch, I'm all about that. We'll post

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Matt's mailing address in the show notes. But you know what,

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, if you said a

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<v Speaker 1>spending limit, it's like bringing something nice to a wide

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>devil party. Yeah, it's like that one gift that everybody

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of wants because it's actually a nice gift. It's

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.160
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a wide elephant party. What are you doing?

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>You ruined everything? Yeah, and so if you have a

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>bigger family, you should consider maybe like an assigned gift

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>exchange draw out of a hat maybe use a name drawing.

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>So for me and my family, we have with our

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>siblings instead of buying each other a gift, our siblings

0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>have spouses and it just becomes harder to know where

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to draw the line. So we have a drawing where

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<v Speaker 1>we get a different sibling couple that we buy for,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and we have a set spending limit, and we also

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>prioritize and experience when we're buying a gift for each other.

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>So usually it's it's a little fun, it's it's a

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>little outside of the box and that kind of makes

0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it easier for us because there's fewer people to buy

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>for and it feels a little more intentional. And also

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>with that spending limit, right, Like, we talked about creating

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that spending limit and just having an open, honest conversation

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>about it. That's kind of how it came about, was it. Yeah,

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we felt like we had too many people to buy

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>for and it kind of felt like a burden as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to kind of this really fun thing. And it's

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.760
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of I feel like, allowed us to create

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>something fun where we got to enjoy buying the gift

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 1>for this couple that we care about as opposed to

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>feeling like we needed to buy this individualized gift for

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>every single person in our family, and um, you know what,

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>each family is going to kind of come up with

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit of a different solution, But that's

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of something you can propose to your family if

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of overwhelmed with feeling like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy gifts for every single human in your family, it

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:33.680
<v Speaker 1>just kind of maybe this can make it a little

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>bit easier. So with a family that has kids, maybe

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the rule is that only the kids get gifts and

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the adults just kind of get to hang back and

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>watch the kids, you know, open the gifts and enjoy that.

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it's gonna vary from family to family,

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 1>but just make sure you're part of that solution. Make

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 1>sure you're part of that change and that you're not

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>just kind of going along with this idea of, oh,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we all have to spend at least fifty bucks per person,

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>this is something that's got to be done. We're all

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>going into debt because we don't want to talk about it,

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 1>and there's just an expectation of this is how it is.

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, like I hate that, I hate that there

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>is this pressure and instead it can just be avoided

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>just by talking about it. Yeah, those conversations, right, aren't

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.879
<v Speaker 1>always easy, but they're important and they're necessary. And I

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>would say you start that conversation early. Right now might

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>not be the best time for this year's Christmas, but

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>start thinking about that and and maybe start hinting at

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that for next year's Christmas. You wouldn't even better time

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to wait till Christmas morning. Oh yeah, yeah, show it

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Christmas morning and be like, hey, you know we're not

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna do gifts anymore. Sorry, guys, I didn't buy anything

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>for any of you. Yeah, no, I completely agree. This

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>is something you want to talk about well in advance,

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and specifically too, with your spouse or a significant other,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Like if you've got a boyfriend or girlfriend, you want

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>to be on the same page about this. This isn't

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>something that you surprise the other person with literally the

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>morning of Christmas where you're like, oh, yeah, you know what,

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really into gift giving anymore. This is something

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to scale back on. Like now, that's

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>a terrible time to make decision. And you don't want

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it to be grinch like either, Right, And so we'll

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>get into some of those tactical ways that you can

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>avoid being the grinch of your holiday gathering, but you

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>can also be thoughtful right after the break. All right,

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>go back to the break and again we're gonna talk

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>about now some helpful and specific tips to avoid the

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>holiday shopping hangover. And So if you don't have the

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>cash on hand, because you're just listening to this now

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and you haven't budgeted, you, basically you have two options. Right.

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>You can either cut more and you could truly spend less.

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>And I think that would be more of the route

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.119
<v Speaker 1>that we would say, yeah, that's that's kind of the

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>route you want to go, and that could be cutting

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of peripheral people off of your shopping list. So

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe your second cousin doesn't get a gift this year

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>when they normally did, and you say, sorry, sorry, Ralph,

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you're not a legit relation to me, so I'm not

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>buying gifts for you this year. Or the other option

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>is to lessen the actual money amount that you spend

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on each person. That's right, Yeah, I love that. So, yeah,

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you can either cut more or a secondary option is

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that you can make some more money, right, in order

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>to pay for Christmas shopping, and we would say to

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>be very careful when it comes to this option, because

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>essentially by saying that, what you're saying is that your

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>time is worth less than a gift that you're going

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to give somebody that they may not even enjoy. Your

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>time is your life, and like you're treating your life

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for money. It's just a slippery slip to say that, Okay,

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna work a little bit more so that

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I can buy one more thing for this person. And

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that, especially if you have kids out there,

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to see that sort of the ripping open

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the gifts. Like there's just this whole sort of culture

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>surrounding like gift giving and gift opening that involves ripping paper,

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>throwing it in the air, like throwing it behind the couch.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>That's part of like people's traditions. Yeah, we don't want

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to completely rain on the parade of those fun traditions

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>because I will be honest, I have some great memories

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>of being a kid and getting that perfect gift that

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted and mom and dad got me right playing there

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>in the sea of like wrapping paper, let's like completely

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>covering the floor. Yes, but I also know that especially

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>with young kids at least, that they have oftentimes been

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>more enthralled by that wrapping paper on the ground than

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>the actual gift that was in the box. And so

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that's definitely a potential to so I think sometimes we

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>build it up more in our mind and the reality

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of how it plays out at our Christmas gatherings or

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 1>holiday gatherings, it's just not quite what we wanted it

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to be in our minds. And so we're not trying

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to provide these tactics and these solutions as a way

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to make Christmas dole and boring and avoid all the

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>joy and the fun of president opening, because that that's

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>super fun, right, That's good stuff, and we don't want

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>to take that away. But what we're trying to say

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>is there are ways that you can make it meaningful

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>while avoiding that nasty holiday shopping hangover that you're gonna

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>have in January if you're not thoughtful about how you're

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>actually spending your money. So with that, something to keep

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>in mind is that thoughtfulness is better than a high

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>price tag. Our loved ones they want to know that

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>we care about them, not that we spent a ton

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of money. So consider handmade gifts or an experience, or

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe even just like a written letter. You know it's

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a spouse or again, so like a loved one, just

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of sharing your thoughts and you know how much

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you appreciate and how much you love them. Yeah, Matt,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I think this comes off sometimes, this sort of suggestion

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>as like trite, and well, there's no way I'm gonna

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>do that, because we're like hokey, right, what they really

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>want is like the new iPhone or something like that,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and and and a written letter that's meaningless comparatively, But

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, the things that have meant the most

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to me that do mean the most to me when

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it comes to gift giving, oftentimes is like a friend

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>who knows how much we need my wife and I

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>need like a night out right and they offer a

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>free babysitting. Or one of our friends who you know what,

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>she's a really good baker and so she spends a

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of time during the holidays to bake people like

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>an awesome pie or some awesome cookies I know you're

0:29:55.720 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Yeah, yeah you do, and i'd so much before. Yeah,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I would so much rather have that than like a

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Best Buy gift card or something, right, because that comes

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>from her heart and it's something that means a lot

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to her, and so it means a lot to me

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to eat that apple pie after she brings it. So yeah,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it can seem like a trite thing, but

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>really it's the most meaningful. And when you think about

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>some of those great gifts you've gotten in your life

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>throughout the years from people that you care about, oftentimes

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>they are these kinds of gifts and it doesn't have

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to be crappy macaroni art or something like that, right,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But I love macaroni art, dude, I know you do,

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>so that's why I'm making you some for Christmas. I

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>just love pasta specifically. I love the macaroni less the art,

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>So don't waste it on a piece of construction paper

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>with glue, right, But I just wanted to mention that

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>because I know that it can come off that way.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>But truly, I think it's a meaningful way to give

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>someone a gift. Yeah, I mean I can I totally

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, right, especially in a time when we

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>just have so much junk and there's just some weird

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you're getting sometimes from folks that don't know

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you that well, and that can be totally avoided by

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>giving of your yourself, just like you said, and along

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>those lines, the gift certificate, like it sounds kind of hokey,

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's awesome, man, if you're able to

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>utilize your skills or your talents that you have, or

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>even a gift certificate for quality time like you talked

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>about earlier, where there's either like a hike or a

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>museum involved, like something that's you know, low cost. This

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 1>involves more giving of yourself, like your time and your energy,

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and less of your money. And we're all about saving money. Yeah.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So oftentimes, like for my dad for his birthday, I

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>will make a certificate for him to take him out

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to dinner or to take him to some sort of

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>like sporting match in town. The sports, the sports generally speaking,

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>he enjoys the sports. He does well, it's not about

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the sports, it's about the It's about the time, right exactly. Yeah,

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>So for me it's about I'm happy to get a

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>nice meal with my dad or to go see you know,

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a baseball game or soccer game or something like that.

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That's great, but really it is it is at intentionality

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>level that I'm oftentimes missing, and it allows me that

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>ability to be intentional because what I really want to

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>do is hang out with my dad. Spent some time

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm with him, whether that's you know, over a barbecue

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>sandwich or watching our soccer team just like unload on

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>another team, right Like, either way, I'm just happy to

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>be with my pops. And that gift certificate is just

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of this way for me to say, in writing Boom,

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we're setting it in stone, right, because I failed to

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>do that so much of the time, and I wish

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I did it. I was better at it on the leg,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not, and so this is my chance to say, Dad,

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>we're doing this you and me. So I think those

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>giftstificates are helpful. It feels good to get it and

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to say they thought about this particular thing I like

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to do with them, like this thing we like to

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>do together, and it's written down and then now we've

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>got to follow through and make it happen. But I

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like those giftstific gates like can be meaningful. I mean,

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>they're they're more than met. You have to back off.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna like start making our listeners start to like

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>get tarr eyed you know what I'm saying. Yeah, dude,

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I might actually have to steal that idea. So I

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>hope my dad's not listening, but he actually probably is.

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And then another sort of creative idea too, man, is uh,

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>if you want to give less, but you still you know,

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>want to spend money, or you've got money to spend

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>because you've budgeted for it, you can consider some philanthropic gifts.

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Our family used to do this thing where we would

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>gift each other loans through Kiva dot Org. Have you

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>ever done the loan program with them? No, I haven't. Basically,

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you go on there and you can buy a gift

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 1>certificate and they have all these different individuals and oftentimes

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Third world countries, and they're trying to start a business,

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and so they're trying to race, say like two thousand

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars to buy a motorcycle in order to give taxi

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>rides and Honduras because that's gonna be their business. That's

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>awesome and that cool. Yeah, and you can donate like

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>bucks or fifty bucks and it goes towards that, and

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>they're part of the program, and you know that's what

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it's going to go towards, but it's a loan, and

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>so they also work to pay that back and almost

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>all the loans get repaid, and so once it does

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>get repaid, you can leave that money within the Kiva

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>program and then reloan it out to somebody else who's

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>looking to get money to start a small business in

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>their town, you know, somewhere far off. Isn't that cool?

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I love that? Yeah, super cool. It's like the entrepreneurial

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>spirit mixed with philanthropy and and yeah, it's awesome. I

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>love it. I love that. And I also I feel

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>like there's kind of this move for families that realize that,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what, we have a lot of stuff and

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>who are able to talk about it. Well, uh, there

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of families that say, you know what,

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>let's forego gifts and let's actually do an active service

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>on Christmas. Let's serve at a soup kitchen or find

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a way to care for people in our community that

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have less than we do on Christmas Day. And that's

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>really cool too. Certainly, no guilt trip, right, no family

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>has to do this has to take their Christmas off

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>from being together and just kind of hanging out to

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>go like serve other people. But if your family is

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>so inclined and does something like that or you think

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>might be interested in doing that, I love doing something

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like a like a philanthropic gift or considering gifting your

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>time as a family and serving together can kind of

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>create this bond and can kind of bring a whole

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>new meaning to your holiday season, right. And so much

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>of the holidays is spending quality time together, right, Like,

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that's honestly what most families oftentimes are are missing,

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it be because of business or technology or jobs

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>or distance, right, Like, you just don't have that quality

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 1>time together. And yeah, I love that dude, when you're

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>able to come together with your family and and and

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of unite around a cause, whether whatever it is

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that you decide on, Like that's it's kind of like

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>just getting on the same team is what matters, right, Yeah.

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have as many gifts that you

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>have to buy because your family is going to get

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>together and serve other people, then maybe you can work

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit less during the holiday season and just

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of enjoy that time a little bit more. Y man.

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And on the flip side though, too, it's common you

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>know around the holidays for shoppers to spend money on themselves. Initially,

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>when I read that, read that sort of little stat

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, that's not something that I do.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>But then I thought, no, that is something I do.

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Specific when it comes to beer. Obviously you and I

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>love craft beer, but around the holidays, I tend to

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>grab a couple of bottles of like something really primo,

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like something really nice that I don't just enjoy myself

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like I tend to share it. But still it's sort

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of like a little self splurge, a little a little

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>treat yourself. I'm gonna say little treat yourself exactly. Then

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Initially I was like, no, that's not me, but I

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute, that is me. Well yeah,

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and I know I think too, especially during you know,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Black Friday and Cyber Monday, when a deal on something

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you have been interested in for a while or kind

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of what pops up, you just kind of throw caution

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to the wind and say why not now the time

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>to pounce. And that sort of spending can ruin your

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>holiday budget, yes, right, and can also take some of

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the joy out of the meeting of the season if

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>you're too focused on getting stuff for yourself. Yeah, if

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you're too focused. However, you know, if that's something that

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you've budgeted for, because maybe every every holiday you do

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>know that you're gonna spend thirty bucks on a single

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>bottle of beer. Well, if you've budgeted for, then that's fine,

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, don't let it wreck your budget. But

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, yeah, I love what you said.

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>You like, don't let that become too much of the

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>focus of your holiday gift giving. So let's talk about

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>some specific ways to that we can make the holidays

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>meaningful for our kids, especially for families, for moms and

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>dads that are listening that have children, how can you

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of make it special for them without spending a

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>ton of money, Because that's something that I think all

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>parents have to deal with, especially parents who have older

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kids who expect a little more maybe like a PlayStation

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>five or whatever they're on now I don't even know, um,

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think there are ways to to make the

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>holidays meaningful for for everyone involved in the family, for

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the kids, the parents, everyone, and not spend a whole

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>ton of money at the same time. And so just

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things I wrote down, We're you know,

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>making ornaments together. So we've done that with our five

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and three year old and it's been just a lot

0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of fun, reading holiday books together, baking together, making holiday art,

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>creating inexpensive traditions, right like parents. As parents, you're setting

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the tone for what the holidays look like. And if

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's all about expensive gift giving, well then the kids

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 1>are gonna respond in kind and they're gonna make that

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the focal point of the holiday season. But if you

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>are able to create these other traditions that are that

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>don't revolve around spending money, that revolve around spending time together,

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe creating something thinking outside the box just a little bit.

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's actually really helpful ways to

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 1>encourage in atmosphere in your holiday season that is just

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a little more rich than then, let's say one based

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>around you know, buying the latest and greatest gadgets. I mean,

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I love what you said about setting the tone. Right. Um,

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that you're not only setting this home

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>for your house around the holidays, but I think that

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>bleeds over into the rest of the year. If around

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the holidays it becomes this magical time of gift giving

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and buying and purchasing and surprising, and there's just money

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and dollar bills like flying left and right. Well, that's

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of going to be expected at other special times

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>during the year, too, like maybe at birthdays or this

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>special occasion or that special occasion. And it's worth considering, like,

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>is that the kind of life that we want to

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>live around the holidays? Do we just want to be

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>preoccupied and distracted with gadgets and activities and things to do,

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.879
<v Speaker 1>or or is it about spending quality time together? Yeah, Matt,

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest that even for me, when I get

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 1>a gift, and even if it's the thing that I

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>have been wanting that I had on my list, there's

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 1>always this tinge of it didn't quite meet my expectations. Um,

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And I feel that I see the same thing in

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>my five year old daughter that sometimes receiving a gift

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>can be hard because, especially in our hypercharged atmosphere where

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>we feel like we need so much or we want

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>so much, and the only cure to that is not

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>getting the exact thing you want, but it's wanting less, right,

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's how you kind of combat it.

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>And so we saw this in this summer when my

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>daughter turned five at her birthday that it wasn't helpful

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to get her more things. Actually it actually was worse

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>for her the more gifts that we got her. And

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't even feel like we we got her that

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>much stuff. She like, like all five iPads that she got,

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>such a weird tradition to have an iPad for every year,

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey man America bro. So yeah, I would say,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like we're dialing back even from where we were, which

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought was pretty reserve, And we're doing a three

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>gift maximum um for for each girl, and I just

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>think even that it might be a lot. So I'm

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>not exactly sure how it's going to work out. I

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>hope it is just a little more meaningful and a

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>little less present centric on the day of, and that

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>we're able to kind of just step back and and

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>have fun together. They're gonna be smaller gifts, a little

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 1>more tangible. I just don't want to make the holiday

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>season about how many gifts do I get? When's the

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.479
<v Speaker 1>big gift coming out? Like those sorts of questions that

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.959
<v Speaker 1>that that you ask as a kid. Um, the more

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>we can kind of temper to those expectations, you know,

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>the more we can dial back on kind of that

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>consumer approach and insert a little more of that kind

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.240
<v Speaker 1>of inexpensive tradition and sending that phone for our family.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I just I love that approach, and that's kind of

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 1>what we're trying to adopt as a family. I mean,

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like that mine fullness and thoughtfulness, right, that goes into

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>it because otherwise, yeah, you're just playing like you're just

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>playing games, you're just keeping yourself busy with distractions, with gifts,

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.359
<v Speaker 1>with gadgets. Man. That's something that I love that Kate

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>has been able to do with our family, is that specifically,

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Like around Thanksgiving she starts ramping up like this Thankfulness project.

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Recently they've called it their Thanksgiving Masterpiece, I think, but

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.280
<v Speaker 1>they create like a piece of art, and it's looked

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 1>differently in the past, but every day that's where they

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of sit down and talk about something that they're

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>thankful for. And again it brings time and attention and

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>our focus as a family to something that isn't a gift,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to something that isn't going to be unwrapped that costs money,

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 1>whereas instead it's about being intentional and being thoughtful. In

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my hurried, busy life, sometimes I think, oh, why are

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 1>we doing this. Come on, we just gotta get the

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>girls off to school. That that's sort of thing. She

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>just has a great mind about that, Like Kate, she

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>thinks like a teacher, you know, And a lot of

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>times I think that's sort of what it takes. You

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and I both have girls in kindergarten and starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see them think about things and seeing their teachers engage

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>their minds. And as parents, that's what we have to do, right, Like,

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>we have to get our kids to engage their minds

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>and not to just uh keep them busy or to

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>distract them. We're kind of creating the culture in our

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>homes and especially around the holiday or gift giving time

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 1>of the year. What it comes down to is more

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>of that minimalist approach, right, that kind of understanding that

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the best present is actually just present. And I feel

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>like Matt, you know, I don't know, I've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>more with my girls, the little things they asked me

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to just spend some time with them. I get home

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>from work and it's like, Daddy, can you just come

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>play with me? That means more to them now than

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>those gifts that I could potentially buy them. Right, I

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>can maybe work a little harder, save a little more money,

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to spend more on physical gifts for them this holiday season.

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 1>But I realized that that is not what they want

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>ultimately deep down, and we can cultivate a tone and

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>an attitude in our family where that's the case, where

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>they want more stuff. But I think our families are

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be better off. My family if it is

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be better off if I cultivate that atmosphere

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of presence is the best present and us being together,

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>enjoying this holiday season together, putting down work, you know,

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>putting down the technology, and just kind of spending some

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 1>time enjoying each other as opposed to trying to put

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>more gifts under the tree and spend a little more

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and then waking up in January to a credit card

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>bill that I don't know how it got there. Right,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that's what we want to avoid for everyone, a little

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 1>more presence and a little bit less holiday shopping hangover. Dude,

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more right, because that is what we

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>are being fed by advertising and consumerism and just the

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>spending culture that we're surrounded is that you do have

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to spend, and you can't have a good Christmas, you

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>can't have a wonderful, warm, fuzzy holiday feeling without spending

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a ton of money. But you know, it's up to

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you as an individual if that's what you want to do.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So some people might be a huge part of their

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>holiday family experience, but it doesn't have to be. And

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to those who might be struggling financially, there are lots

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of other ways that you can cultivate that family culture

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<v Speaker 1>and have an awesome time without going into debt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for some families it's going to mean going

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<v Speaker 1>from spending a hundred dollars on every single person in

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>your family to spending fifty on half as many people,

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>or for some families it's not gonna mean any change

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>at all in their spending, but just maybe a little

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>more mindfulness in what you're buying and how you're thinking through.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, what you buy for the people that you

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>care about. But more than anything, hopefully for everyone out

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>there listening, it's not going into debt. It's not racking

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>up credit card debt that you can't afford to pay

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.720
<v Speaker 1>off for gifts for people that you love, thinking that

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the meaning of the season, because that's not it.

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think anybody that you love would encourage

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you to go into debt to buy something for them

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that you can't afford to pay off. I mean, that's

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>just a crummy situation all around. Yeah, man, I love that, dude.

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the you know what else is so good? This

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>beer that we're finishing off. Yeah, Buddy Sierra Nevada and

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Narwhale Imperial Stout. This is delicious, dude. It's got the

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Narwhale on there. Uh, speaking of Christmas, Like on Buddy

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the Elf, you know when he's at when he's at

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the North Pole and he's telling Mr Norwal exactly except

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>for it. This is like the grown up version of Hilm.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>He looks all hardcore on the label. He's gonna spear

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody or something. It looks way more sharp on this picture.

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, not nearly as friendly looking. But this is

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic solid Imperial Stout by Sierra Nevada. And you

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:36.959
<v Speaker 1>and I we both kind of feel like stouts are

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>great beers to drink during the holidays, because especially during

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the holidays, like you want to have that what dark, thicker,

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>robust beer. Yeah, it's kind of like a winter warmer.

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 1>And so this one in particular has coffee and you know,

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>dark chocolate notes in it. Man, I've always kind of

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 1>been a fan of Sierra Nevada and Narwhale. I enjoy

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of their beers, but I would I don't

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>gravitate towards most of them very often. But this is

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>one I pick up like every year, and it's in

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>six packs this year, which is kind of nice. I

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>just really like kind of a bitter stout and this

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>one has a nice bitter coffee, bitter dark chocolate notes

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and it works. It works really well. I like it

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Speaking of inexpensive Christmas traditions, I wonder if

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 1>that's why you like this every year, man, I bet,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>like you pick this up every single year, And I

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 1>bet it's because you have sort of like this memory

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>associated with this of affordability mixed with great flavor, mixed

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 1>with coming together with family and friends for real, you know.

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh completely. I'm obsessed with finding a great beer that

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>is reasonably priced, and this one comes out every year,

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just always excited because it is a great

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 1>beer that's really pretty inexpensive when it comes down to it. Yeah, man,

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And especially with this being an Imperial stout. So if

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not really into like craft beer or specialty beers.

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>If you know that you like coffee or you like

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>things that are maybe a little bit less bitter, right Like,

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>if you like your coffee with a little bit of sugar,

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit of cream, then stouts tend to

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>be a good sort of beer for folks like that, Right, Like,

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to stay away from like the I. P. A.

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>S that are a little more bitter, instead look towards

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the beers that are darker and have more of that

0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>multi backbone, and this will totally do that for you. Yeah,

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and this one in particular is probably better for people

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that like dark chocolate over milk chocolate. Yeah. So if

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you're interested in finding a beer that has kind of

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>some of those notes and you're not really sure what

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 1>to drink this holiday season, well, I mean we would

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>recommenden Narwhall Stout by Sierra, Nevada, and it should be

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>on shelves wherever you buy beer. All right, Matt, let's

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>get to our final thoughts on how we avoid that

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>holiday shopping hangover. All right. The first thing that you

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>can do is make sure that you are planning ahead,

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and you want to make sure you're staying organized. That

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>allows you to start saving now because you're saving ahead

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:50.800
<v Speaker 1>of time, and that keeps you within your budget. But

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it also allows you to be thoughtful. Keep a running

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>list with the names of those that you want to

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>give gifts to. And when you have those names listed out,

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that allows you to start shopping now. You can start

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>looking for those deals and you can start thinking of

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>creative gift ideas to those who you love. Yeah, it

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 1>also allows you to open the lines of communication with

0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>people in your family if there are a lot of

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>expectations in the holiday season when it comes to gift

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>giving and gift receiving, and it's kind of tough to

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 1>broach that subject sometimes, but planning ahead allows you to

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:24.280
<v Speaker 1>start having those conversations with the people that are closest

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>to you and would be most affected by you deciding

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to shake things up a little bit. So make sure

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to start that conversation when it comes to expectations around

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>your family gift giving traditions sooner rather than later. Then.

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>The number one specific tip that we want to give

0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 1>is to just not spend money that you don't have.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>If you are going to be tempted to spend more

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>than you have. If you are using your credit card,

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 1>don't use your credit card. Joe and I we both

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.760
<v Speaker 1>love using our credit cards because of all the different

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.399
<v Speaker 1>perks and cash back and purchase protection benefits that we have,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's not worth it if you're going to end

0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>up overspending. Also, thoughtfulness is so much better than a

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>high end gift. Your loved ones, people that you care

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.600
<v Speaker 1>about the most. They want to know that you care back.

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>And so it might sound trite, but it's true. Something

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>handmade or an experience, or even just an expression of

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>love can be so much more meaningful than inexpensive gizmo

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>or gadget. That's right, man, More giving of yourself, your

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 1>time and energy, and less of your money. All right, everyone,

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.320
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