1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right man. You know, before 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: we get started tonight, we've had a couple of losses. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: H you want to start off, you want to start. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Us off, bro, Not really, man, I don't even want 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: to go to it right now. I can't remember. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm anna give a big shout out, man to 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: the homeboy go Mac man from a bud of law. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: He passed away today. I want to give condolences to 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: the homie man. We're gonna miss you, man. And you 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: know a other homie man out little et do that 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: when he's ready. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: Man. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: But we can't take life for granted, y'all. This life 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: is too short for bullshit and everything else. 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: Man. 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: We only here for a second, So let's fin in 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: that second. Let's thin that second being righteous, you know. 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: For shall glad to have you back, dog, glad to 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: have you back this week? Man, you know not, I 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: wish it wouldn't have been under those circumstances. You know. 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, shit happens, man, and it be just like sudden. 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: You know, you can accept some type of shit. You know, 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: we all men, and we're supposed to be staying strong 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: and be built. But man, it's just it's just some 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: shit that happens man, that you can't even it just 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: it just knocks you down. It should should just be unexpected. 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: I guess that would be the real killer about it. 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: It'd be different when you know people and they going 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 2: through some stages, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: you know death is coming to us all. But you 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: know when it's somebody that you just like that, like 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: it's impossible, man, Like how did how It's impossible? 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: And then. 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Coming up like how we came up? Man, You always 35 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: expected to be on some oh somebody shot my nigga, 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: or somebody did this, or my nigga went to prison 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: for a hundred years or some shit. When it's on 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: some like when it's on some like medical shit that 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: you can't understand, that shit like it fuck with you 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 2: because that's the shit that take you suddenly. 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: You know. 42 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: You know, if a nigga out there on the block 43 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: banging and serving or whatever, somebody might come by and 44 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: try to hit you. That's the chances we used to take. 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: You get me. But seeing you go through all of 46 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: that and you make it to a certain age and 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: you know, grandkids and you're chilling and whatever, and next 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: thing you know, bam. You know what I'm saying. You 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: get that phone call and now you rush into somebody's bedside. 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: You feel me that shit is crazy? Yeah it is, man, 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: You know it is. 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Man. We can't take it for granted. Man, it's like 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: in the blink of eye, like literally, you know, in 54 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: the blink of an eye. 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: Man. 56 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, one second you hear, the next you gone. 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: Man. 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, we talk a lot about music, man, I 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: mean you we've had discussions on the show before about 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the music industry just being really cutthroat. Today, man, we 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: got like sort of a detective. I'd like to call 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: him a forensics expert, right, you know, the homie gool Man. 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Who's happening? Man? 64 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: Hey, first off, my conngolences, see you loved ones. 65 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Good luck. Yeah, I appreciate that. 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: So gone Goo. Let me ask you, man, your name 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: is really unique, man, gon Goo? What is that? 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: My grandfather named me? He was headed the household. 69 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Man. 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know it's African or something. I mean, 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 6: my grandfather's in like fifth grade, but I never really 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: got it his it, but you know it stands out. 73 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 6: It's unique. 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: You know it. 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 6: You know it's you know, I guess it obviously it 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 6: stands out, you know what I'm saying. I mean, it works, 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 6: It works for me, It works for me. 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet if your grandfather names you probably means 79 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: something real powerful. 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, it supposed if it's supposed to be like an 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 6: African witch doctor or something. 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the story I was told. 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: I was there was a whole story to it, but 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 6: you know I forgot about I forgot, I forgot. 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'd like to call Ghanghu a forensics expert. 86 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: He like a detective. He liked those cats on the 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: first forty eight to come in when the bread is 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: messed up and not right, He's gonna come in and 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: find it and the ain't no how in it front of. 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: Him, right. 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 6: I do forensics on the royalty side, So I consider 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 6: myself a forensics royalty specialist. 93 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Now that means you don't benish from everybody's business then, 94 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: because you know, hip hop is one of those arts 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: man where everybody got a horror story. Everybody don't been robbed. 96 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I mean I seen it all, man, definitely 97 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 5: seeing it all. 98 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 6: And it's going to continue, and you know, I mean 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 6: it can happen purposely or even by mistake. You know, 100 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 6: sometimes the system is just messed up too, you know 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. That's paying out you know, bad software, 102 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Just you know, and it 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 6: just spits out and you got to catch it. 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how did you get into this business man? 105 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Because this thing is outworking to publish a business. But 106 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: your side is kind of different. 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I grew up with some cats. 108 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: I used to be around the sugar Hill family. 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 6: The father, you know, was trying to teach me titbits 110 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 6: on the Royal East side that I would consider that. 111 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 6: He was pretty much an expert on the publishing and 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 6: master side of the business and stuff. 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: And you know. 114 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 6: When you come out of high school and a lot 115 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: of people were just knocking on his door, coming by 116 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 6: the wall, basically coming by his studio, trying to learn 117 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 6: the music business. You know, he had a door open 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 6: for a lot of people. He was teaching a lot 119 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 6: of people. You know what I'm saying. My family knew 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 6: his family, so I had an open door policy to 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 6: deal with him. And you know, he was able to 122 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 6: you know, I was able to learn a couple of 123 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 6: things from him, even though you know, I was learning 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 6: stuff on my own and stuff. But he was able 125 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 6: to you know, put you know, add some add some 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 6: season into what I what I already knew, and then 127 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 6: you know, I was able to go out there on 128 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 6: my own and try to like, you know, just find 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 6: you know, my own resolve on on issues. But it 130 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 6: took a lot of ringing ring experience. You know what 131 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's like you can't jump into the fight, 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 6: you know, against these experts. You're gonna get beat up, 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: you know, all around the ring, you know what I'm saying. 134 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 6: So it took a lot of court cases, reading a 135 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 6: lot of contracts, seeing a lot of pain, you know 136 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, experiencing the pain, you know, gaining a 137 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 6: lot of emotion, gaining a lot of motion from from 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 6: from your clients, and stuff like that that would motivate you. 139 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 6: Reading a lot of books. You know, it took a 140 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 6: little bit of everything to get where I'm at. You 141 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Good lawyers, better lawyers. You know, 142 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 6: it's it was just that it was just a bunch 143 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 6: of ingredients. You know what I'm saying. That that that 144 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 6: that that I ate, you know what I'm saying that 145 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 6: I ingested. 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 5: I ingested a lot of ingredients. You know what I'm saying. 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am. 148 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: Now you know what I'm saying. 149 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: What's the you know, I'm gonna jump right into it, man. 150 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: What's the most scamba's case that you've seen? Man? Of 151 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: just somebody taking advantage of somebody. 152 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 6: I mean I got a couple, man, I mean I've 153 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 6: got I've got numerous cases. 154 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know, we got all. I want 155 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: to hear about them, man, because I think it's important. Yeah, 156 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't realize how to protect themselves. 157 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 5: All right. I had a client one time. 158 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: Back in twenty ten or something like that, twenty eleven, 159 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 6: This lady Venus Dotson. She had a tax bill for 160 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 6: six figures, you know what I'm saying, and make along 161 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: su a short. You know, she was like, I never 162 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: why would I have a six figure tax bill? You 163 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like, I've never even made no 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 6: money in the industry like that. 165 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 166 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 6: Basically, say, okay, so say, for example, somebody took MC 167 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 6: eight's name and was taken well, basically, somebody was taking 168 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 6: MC eights checks and cashing MC eights checks under his 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 6: government name. So say if mcs would be in my 170 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 6: ass cap or something like that, he was getting writer 171 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 6: checks under his government name. Somebody was cashing their checks 172 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 6: and getting the checks cashed under under their government name. 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 6: But they but you'd have to pay the tax bill 174 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 6: because under the government name the checks were for you. 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 6: They just got me directed to somebody else's mailbox so 176 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 6: they could cash them, you know what I'm saying. So 177 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 6: that's happened often. I know a few clients that that's 178 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 6: happened to. I mean, obviously the big pun case was 179 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 6: was was messed up. I mean, uh, you know, I 180 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 6: think people know by now. You know I met the 181 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 6: Punk family and the homeless shelter. You know, she was 182 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 6: receiving fake royalty statements for fourteen years. You know, I 183 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 6: had to take people, you know what I'm saying. You know, 184 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 6: I had to take Joe to court over that and 185 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 6: his publisher to prove that the royalty statements that they 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 6: that she was receiving was fake. 187 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: For fourteen years, from. 188 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 6: About twenty fifteen or somewhere around there, she was receiving 189 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 6: fake royalty statements to keep her unrecouped while while they 190 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 6: were really cashing the checks. 191 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Wow. So he was sending her fake statements, like statements 192 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: he'd made up of his own that weren't there. 193 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 6: Well, he was telling this publisher to make fake royalty 194 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 6: statements so they whack up the money. 195 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Okay. Wow, So you would rather see your man because 196 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, he talks about poem with very high regard. 197 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: And it's kind of crazy that she would like allow 198 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: your homeboy's family to stay in a home with Selter 199 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: and we had money for him. 200 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: I mean, it was a game, agreed. I think he 201 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 5: created somebody. 202 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 6: He created somebody so spectacular that he just felt that 203 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 6: like that artist was his, no matter what, that not 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 6: even from inheritancy, Like that's not yours, that's my you 205 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I mean that just that just 206 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 6: seems like that was the mentality, you know what I'm saying. 207 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 6: He didn't care that. Like just imagine she's like, hey, Joe, 208 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 6: you know what's up with the money. There's no money? Okay, 209 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: Hey Joe, I need to pay rent. You know, I 210 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 6: got Pun's crib. I'm about to lose her. Ah, there's 211 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 6: no money. Hey Joe, I'm living at my friend's house 212 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 6: with the kids. 213 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: Hey, no money. No money. 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 6: Hey, Joe, I'm living in a homeless shelter, like anything 215 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 6: with the money. There's no money, you know what I'm saying. 216 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 6: So he actually sort of transition of all of that happened, 217 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 6: and he still he still was sending her fake groalthy statements. 218 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: So he didn't care because you got to you got 219 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: a two million dollars, right. 220 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I found two point three in the in 221 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 6: the I paid an orderor we. 222 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: Found two point three million dollars missing during discovery. 223 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 6: And it wasn't even all the discovery, you know, they 224 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 6: were they were missing pages in the discovery, you know, 225 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 6: and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying. 226 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: I mean, we could took the trial and found more 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: money and stuff. 228 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 6: Like that for sure, but you know, we had, you know, 229 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 6: there was a choice to you know, basically went to mediation, 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, and we got the catalog 231 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 6: back from him and h Basically the publisher was getting 232 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: twenty five percent due to the fact that he brought 233 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: into the copyright due to advance, and then the other 234 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 6: seventy five percent was thirty seven and a half thirty 235 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 6: seven and a half half of Joe and half for 236 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 6: the pun of state, and we were able to get 237 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 6: you know, Joe's portion back because he got all the 238 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: blame in court, you know what I'm saying, because you know, 239 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 6: he didn't pass over the money when he got it. 240 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: M you know what, And this ain't no, this ain't 241 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: me man. Oh you're trying to smear Joe man because. 242 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: Not at all. 243 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: He's not the only one. Is just reality. It's just 244 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: the truth, man. Truth. Sometimes it's bad. 245 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: You know. 246 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: You would think, though, because he talks about that man 247 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: with very high regards, you would think, ain't no way 248 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: he gonn allow his man's wife and his baby's to starve. 249 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm. 250 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 6: Saying, Uh, you know, I mean he had the options, 251 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 6: and he took advantage of whatever option he had to 252 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 6: go left or right, you know what I'm saying. And 253 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 6: you know, I'm just glad that I was able to 254 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 6: prove that the Royalty students were fake because maybe even 255 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 6: to this day, they probably be sending a fake royalty stavements. 256 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 257 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: You know it seemed like, man, during the early days 258 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: of hip hop, it was a lot of that going on, 259 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: and I think that was just because that was the 260 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: status quo. Kind of you know, you sign somebody, you 261 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: take the publish in. They don't really get no money 262 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: outside of what they give in the road, and that's it. 263 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: They kind of you know, going to oblivion or whatever. 264 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: Right, It's happened to the best of them. 265 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 5: I've seen. 266 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 6: I've seen run DMC in corporate Steve plot Nikki profile 267 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 6: records because Steve plott Nicky was sending one d fake 268 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: royalty statements. 269 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Uh, you know what I'm saying. One of the biggest 270 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: groups in the world. 271 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 6: I mean yeah, but I mean but they also got 272 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 6: a lot of licensees like Christmas Holliday Records and all 273 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 6: that type stuff. 274 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 275 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: That God was able to man, Yeah, that God was 276 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: able to Yeah. 277 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: And they even they even lost the court case. 278 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, because you know, they had 279 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: lack of knowledge and lack of technique to how to 280 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 6: fight a veteran like that. 281 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I mean, this guy's experienced. 282 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 6: In my opinion, it just seems like he don't like 283 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 6: paying black people, you know what I'm saying. 284 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: That's just my opinion, and. 285 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 6: I mean that's from my experience because I took him 286 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 6: to court before too, and stuff like that. And I 287 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 6: mean everybody I noticed black is getting manipulated from him 288 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: somehow somewhere. You know, there's a whole complaint border on 289 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 6: him basically from artists that call me. You know what 290 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 6: I'm saying. And uh, I mean Rob Base was signed 291 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 6: over there. I think DJ Quick signed to Profile Records 292 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 6: camp Low. Yeah, but I don't know it's never spoke 293 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 6: to him about it. But I'm just saying, but he's 294 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 6: one of those guys that in his contracts he didn't 295 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: give out publishing. He was just giving up royalty. You 296 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 6: didn't you didn't have publishing. You just you was just 297 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: getting you. 298 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Know, publishing like that. You know what a lot of 299 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: like we wasn't get. Yeah, I didn't get publishing even 300 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 2: though it was there. I know shit about it. 301 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean done, Hey, bo, I would just sign 302 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 6: the same contract they did, just because I know what 303 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 6: I know now back then, being so and so aged, 304 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 6: I would have seen I would have signed the same contract, 305 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. 306 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: So I'm no genius at eighteen twenty years old. 307 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 308 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: You know what the thing is though, kind of going ay, 309 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: nobody can give you your publishing. That is your right. 310 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: The moment you go in thatial intellectual probably the moment 311 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: you go in and write over the beat or whatever. 312 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a marriage between the producer and 313 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: the artist the writer. You know, you've got the you 314 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: know y'all, y'all both joining the orders of that copy 315 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: right right? Can't nobody give me the publishing? Somebody was 316 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: writing all your reps for you. 317 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, Bob, but we're eighteen twenty years old, 318 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 6: We don't you know, we're thinking at forty something. 319 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: Fifty years old. Now, you know what I'm saying. 320 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: Fifty something years old, eighteen nineteen twenty years old, you know, 321 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 6: signing the Bad Boy or something like that or whatever 322 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 6: label to where they get a piece of publishing and 323 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 6: stuff like that. I mean, I mean, number one, you're 324 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 6: you're pretty intrigued by the advance. You know what I'm saying. 325 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 6: At eighteen nineteen years old, you see the advance. You 326 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, that's one thing. 327 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: Let's go. 328 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, he's gonna they're gonnaet a 329 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 6: little piece of the publishing. You don't even know what 330 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 6: that pretty much means eighteen nineteen years old. You know 331 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. 332 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: You don't, but yeah, and you just you just run 333 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: you just running with it. 334 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 6: I mean, I hate a lot of people argue about 335 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 6: puff now at forty years old, forty something years old 336 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 6: because because they're all the naw they realized what the 337 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 6: value of the publishing is now they now they understand that, 338 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 6: oh I lost a piece of my real estate, you know. 339 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 6: But but just think that even happened a biggie. The 340 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 6: guy had a piece of biggie too. I mean, it 341 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 6: doesn't matter how big you are, you know what I'm saying. 342 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: It happens to the best of them. You know what 343 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 344 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 6: You could beat Michael Jordan of the rap game at 345 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: the end of the day. But when you're eighteen nineteen, 346 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 6: you signed, you signed this contract. You know what I'm saying. 347 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 6: It just it just it just is what it is, 348 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's better that 349 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 6: than getting the royalty at the same time. I mean, 350 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 6: you know, at least it transcended from the royalty stage 351 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 6: to where you get your own publishing entity. 352 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 353 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Right, how prevalent. 354 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Was that, like with what's one of the older labels, man, 355 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: one of the one of the premier labels, what was 356 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: the label came and signed. 357 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: To, Yeah, Coach Killing. 358 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: I meant, I got Coach Chilling clients and stuff like that. 359 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 360 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 6: We got terminations and got them the entity back and 361 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: stuff like that. 362 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 5: It was, like I said, that was that was pretty 363 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 5: much a template of the eighties. 364 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 365 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 6: That was just an eighties But once again, eighteen nineteen 366 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 6: years old Chantey was Chantey was fifteen sixteen when she signed. 367 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I mean, who what? 368 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Hey? Man? 369 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what do you what do 370 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: you know with that? Sixteen years old? 371 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 6: Hey, I'm supposed to oh, my publishing, my copyrights supposed 372 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 6: to be like this and like this, Like idan, I 373 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 6: can't hurt out the room. 374 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 375 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Wow, you know that. 376 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 5: Look back then, you wouldn't even have a deal. I 377 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 5: get you out the room. 378 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, we'll call you, yeah exactly. 379 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, we hit you later 380 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: on because you know too much. You talk. Youre about 381 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: to call some problems. 382 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm just saying, man, I'm just glad that 383 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 6: you know, these people graduated, you know what I'm saying, 384 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 6: to be the people who they were in the business. 385 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of these people are soundtracks are 386 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 6: my childhood and teenage years, high school years and stuff 387 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 6: like that. You know what I'm saying. When you're that age, 388 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 6: you don't really know the stories like that. You know 389 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like, oh, this person is not getting 390 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 6: paid like that and stuff like that. 391 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: You're more like seventeen eighteen. Look at them like a superhero, 392 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 393 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: You know, And like we talked about earlier off the year, 394 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: it's not always just some big evil executive somewhere that's 395 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: just certain stuff. Sometimes it's a case of people not 396 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: understanding business as well. You know, like you said, you 397 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: get in advance and you spend money, people spend money 398 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: on putting your record out and certain things, and you 399 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, you may sign a piece of your publishing 400 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: or I think it kind of is a great area 401 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: as when you just do it, when you just do 402 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: somebody wrong for lack of knowledge and you don't explain 403 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: to him, Hey, we're doing this deal I'm going to 404 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: give I'm gonna put your record out, but it's changed. 405 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: You're going to give me twenty percent of your publishing. 406 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: That means this, You give somebody a choice. You feel 407 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 408 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: I feel you. 409 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: But I just think in this business, this game is 410 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 6: for keeps. You know what I'm saying. That's the mentality 411 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: is for keeps. I mean, just think well, I mean, 412 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 6: just think in the sixties, Roulette, Morris Levy, you know, 413 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 6: guys like that throughout the era. The tradition just gets 414 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 6: passed on. You know what I'm saying. You know, it's 415 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: just like yo, like yo, here's the handbook. You know 416 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 6: what I'm saying now, mind you Okay. I was going 417 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 6: through a situation with Puffy one time, right back in 418 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 6: like twenty twenty one. He called my house, Well, he 419 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 6: called myself up when I was hanging, you know, doing 420 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 6: what in my living room and stuff like that, and 421 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 6: he was just like basically like yo, man, like you 422 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 6: see me discrepancies. 423 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: Don't call my lawyer, don't call my publisher. 424 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Just call me. 425 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 5: This is my cell member, Just call me. 426 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm. 427 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: Looking at it like oh shit, like this is the 428 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 6: big homie because I used to be a bad boyal time. 429 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, okay, I'm gonna call you, like I'll 430 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: call you like you know what I'm saying. 431 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: He had me like half hypnotized, like okay, like I'll 432 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 6: just call you about it, you know what I'm saying. 433 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: And my client, my client was pissed. 434 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 6: My client was like, yo, man, like I know he's 435 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 6: playing me and all this stuff, my money, this and that. 436 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 5: So Puff called him up right, And when. 437 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: I spoke to my client, I was like, Yo, so 438 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: what y'all talk about? He said, Yo? 439 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: You know? 440 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 6: Puff said to me. I was like, what do you 441 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 6: say to you? He said, hey, man, I'm just doing 442 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 6: what the white man taught me. 443 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: See this nothing, you know what, man? I can understand 444 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: young cats doing something together and don't nobody know what's 445 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: going on, But you can't take bad habits. Dog, if 446 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: your father used to beat your mama, that don't mean 447 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: you beat your wife when you get married. You feel 448 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You know that don't mean you keep 449 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: some you know, bad habits going on. Example off, I 450 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: don't think that's an excuse. 451 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: Man. 452 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: I've always thought that publishing is an artist's legacy. Bro, 453 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: that's mailbox money. Because hip hop is not like rock 454 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: and roll. Hip hop has a problem with ageism very much. 455 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: So it's not like rock and roll to where you're 456 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: going to continue to be able to put our records 457 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: on a major label at the high left and get 458 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: big advances. No, eventually you're going to be putting records 459 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: out on your own. If you're putting them out at all, 460 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: you'll probably still going to go on tour. But that's 461 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be like your mailbox money. So when you 462 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: get older, man, you got that, you know that publishing coming. 463 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: We got guys that have really big records. Man, it's 464 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: not getting the publishing. 465 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 6: I mean, I see a lot of times puswa. I 466 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 6: just had a case today. Like I told you, I 467 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 6: would through six boxes of contracts today. I flew him 468 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 6: from DC to go to Maryland. My client drove from 469 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 6: Virginia to Maryland to meet up with meet it with 470 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 6: me and my lawyer at the lawyer's office. We were 471 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 6: in the conference room going through contracts, right, and you 472 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 6: know it's in a state. They inherited it. They inherited. 473 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 6: They inherited this estate of works and stuff like that. 474 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 6: And when the grandfather died, who did all this work? 475 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 6: When the grandfather died, his granddaughter inherited. So when the 476 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 6: grandfather died, the manager turned around. The Jewish guy manager 477 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 6: turned around and claimed him as all his and he 478 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 6: was selling was he was selling off the publishing, like, yeah, 479 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 6: give me a hundred thousand for these three songs, and 480 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 6: you know this and that, so I could live in 481 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 6: Beverly Hills and all this other stuff, you know what 482 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: I'm saying. So you don't know where angle is coming from, 483 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And a lot of times 484 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 6: when you inherit stuff like you're not going to know. 485 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 6: Like you know, if eight passed away and I talked 486 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 6: to one of his relatives and I say, hey, like, 487 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: well eight oed me money, and they're not going to 488 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 6: know as much as he did because he was hands 489 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 6: over with the business. You know what I'm saying. The 490 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 6: state can be manipulated. This guy was manipulating. He was controlling. 491 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 6: This guy died in nineteen eighty. He was controlling everything 492 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: from nineteen eighty to like nineteen ninety six. So what 493 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 6: was No, this is a guy named Lincoln Chase. He 494 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 6: sampled a lot jay Z, Mariah Carry Heartbreaker and stuff 495 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 6: like that. You know, he got a lot of works 496 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 6: and stuff like that that gets sampled and stuff like that. 497 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 6: But all I'm saying is that, you know, it's not 498 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: just hip hop that I do and stuff like that. 499 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: This was like I do jazz. You know, I got 500 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 6: a whole bunch of clients and stuff like that. But 501 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, you know, what I'm saying is that, well. 502 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Shit, when you're doing work like that, so you got 503 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: to be able to and you got to be able 504 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: to broaden your horizons when you fucking with different type 505 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: of people, when you can prove that you can do 506 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: that type of different shit. 507 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I agree, you know what I'm saying. 508 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. My work 509 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 6: is diverse. So all I'm saying is that, you know, 510 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 6: there's so many different ways to try to stuff. 511 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, there's a lot of forgeries 512 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 5: in the business. 513 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 514 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 6: I think I might have said before, like his his 515 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 6: one trick that goes down, but by veterans, you know, 516 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, I can are you asking it? 517 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: Being my eight I'm being a mind. Nigga stole my publisher. Okay, hey, 518 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: well okay, so okay, so you can do this. I 519 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: basically my first ever contract, I think I was seventeen eighteen. 520 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: I signed a contract with Big Beat Productions. 521 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: Oh Big, Big Atlantic, Big Beat, big Beat something, Big 522 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 6: Beat Atlantic. 523 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: Okay, Big Beat Atlantic was Craig Kauman. This was a 524 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: nigga name, unknown out of Detroit. He had an independent 525 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: record label called Techno Hop. That's where I got my 526 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: first shot at. Oh wow, And so when I signed 527 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: a deal with him, because he basically had a deal 528 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: on the table with Capital orpheus and so signed to him, 529 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: but I never signed a publishing deal. What he did 530 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: was he took a publishing contract and stapled it to 531 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: the back of my recording contract, and she was able 532 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: to take my publishing on the first two records. This 533 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: was like ninety that might be be resolved these days. Okay, people, 534 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: but you and then people look at it as people 535 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: look at it from his side, probably like nigga, you 536 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: had to pay your dues, so look at that as 537 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: paying your dues, right, where would you be if if 538 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: a nigga would have never put you out? What would 539 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: you be if a nigga never decided to, you know, 540 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: drop a record. 541 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: On you or whatever? 542 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: This ISMW yeah really yeah c m W. On my 543 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: first two projects, I didn't I didn't start probably getting 544 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: published until the group was just you. I wrote everything, 545 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: oh o, oh okay wrote I wrote all the lyrics. Nobody, nobody. 546 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 2: One nigga did the beats, and one nigga did the 547 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: raps and that was me. I wrote all the araps 548 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: for the group. 549 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 5: Oh man, So I told you behind the scenes. 550 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, the niggas the nigga staple the publishing 551 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: contract to the back of the little record, and that's 552 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: how he was able to go to uh, the public, 553 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: That's how he was able to go get a publishing deal. 554 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: He went and got a publishing deal with the motherfucker. 555 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: And uh, he only gave me. He only gave me 556 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 2: some chump change. I think it was for like a 557 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: hundred grand. The nigga, the nigga gave me some shit. 558 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: I could blow my nose with me. And he kept 559 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: around that and he got about it. He got about 560 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: it was probably about one hundred thousand dollars publishing deal 561 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: and he got yeah, and they gave me about five 562 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: grand and he kept the rest. Right, how old are 563 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: you then? Oh shit, I was about eighteen nineteen years old. 564 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 565 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: See that's what I'm saying. We don't know no better. 566 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 567 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I got. 568 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: I just wanted to rap man. I ain't know about publishing, 569 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: and he was getting show money. No, I wasn't even 570 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: getting show money yet. I was just glad that I 571 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: had a record out. Okay, I hadn't even begun to 572 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: start touring. I really didn't start touring till my second album. 573 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: I didn't second album, W was so Lo CMW. Okay, 574 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: first album, it's a copy thing. I didn't do no 575 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: touring off of that. We sold a about close to 576 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: two three hundred, about two hundred and something thousand records 577 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: on this accomfent thing, and that was through Orpheus Capital, 578 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: and then they folded and so we ended up getting 579 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 2: picked up by Sony because Orpheus got picked up on 580 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 2: the deal with Sony, and so Orpheus had a deal 581 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: with Big Bet, which was who I was signed to. Okay, 582 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: but again i'm writing out, I'm writing everything that, all 583 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: the raps on all those CMW and m C eight 584 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: solo projects, I wrote all the raps. Nobody Ghoest wrote 585 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: none of that. I what made you go? What made 586 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: you go? Solo? 587 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 6: After this, after the second album. 588 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: The label my Nigga Chill kept going to jail and 589 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: they didn't want to keep pushing the cmb W line 590 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: when there was no CMW. It was just me and 591 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: the DJ. Chill was going in and out of jail 592 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: all the time, so it was just me. I was 593 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: doing all the songs, I was writing all of them, 594 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: I was doing all the videos by myself. I was 595 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: doing but I'm still going by confidence most warning mm hmm. 596 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: They felt probably it was better to just break off 597 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: and just deal with me as a solo artist's reliability 598 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: less of a lie what you say. 599 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Still, I see a plus for branding that pick because 600 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: it was very not confusing. But I used to think 601 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: confience most wanted was just another name for you exactly. 602 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: There was never nobody else rapping it. He was always 603 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: only one rapping. 604 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: I was always I said, when you heard like you 605 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: really did hear Chill on songs because he was going 606 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: up in the window right, he was on the first version, 607 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: and then we did a remix and he wasn't on there. 608 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: We did the original version. I wrote the verse, I 609 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: wrote the lyrics, we cut the song. Ah, you know, 610 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: we were still we were still Street Niggas. Then O 611 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Niggas was getting in trouble. Still. Chill went to jail 612 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: that night after we left the studio, so when it 613 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: was time to go do the radio version, he wasn't around. 614 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: So I had to do it by myself because we 615 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: had just cut the original song for the soundtrack, and 616 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 2: then it blew up so good that they wanted to 617 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: push it on the radio. So I had to go 618 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: back in and do a radio version. And then Who 619 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: and then Sony, who I was signed to, They was like, well, shit, 620 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: we want our piece. So they turned around and put 621 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: out a Naxi single with a whole remix, a whole 622 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: different beat to growing Up in the Hood. Oh, it 623 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: was like three different versions of growing Up in the Hood. 624 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: It's we got we got three different versions. We got 625 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: the original with me and Chill, then there's radio version 626 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: with just me, and then there's the more bounds remix 627 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: with just me. 628 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh but. 629 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: I never I never decided to go solo like that 630 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: was pushed by the label. They was like, man, why 631 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: push Contence most wanted? When Contence most wanted this year? 632 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 5: That was a dope name too, though you know what 633 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 634 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: Definitely, but they probably figured, and you know, this was 635 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: around the time where Image and James was everything. We 636 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: was already scaring niggas because we was young niggas black 637 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: with Jerry curls and khaki suits and ship like that. 638 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: They probably figured we would catch less. We would catch 639 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: less bullshit. If we go from Contence most Wanted to 640 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: MC eight, you give me M eight Contens most wanted, 641 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: even though he's Conten's most wanted. When you hear that 642 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: name push first, it's more relaxing than presenting Compton's most 643 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: wanted on somebody. You feel me. 644 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: That that's aggressive. 645 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: It's easier to go to radio with Hey, here's this 646 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: m C eight single. Then here's this Compton's most wanted single. 647 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: You get me? Yeah, I guess so, and go ahead. 648 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Still, you wouldn't lucked up with them one of no 649 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: contract wizard. 650 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Who with Sony? 651 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 652 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. After I did Conscience most warn it, they restructured 653 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: the deal to just an m C eight solo deal. 654 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 6: Hey question, would you recall, like you know, you being 655 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 6: in an aggressive group like that, would you recall if 656 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: they had life insurance in your contract? 657 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm pretty sure I had one 658 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: of the old school contracts. Nigga was a yeah I got. 659 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 6: That ship, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 660 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: And then like the representation back then would like, you know, 661 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: it was just shady, you know what I'm saying. 662 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 5: Everybody he signed here. 663 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: I unfortunately, you know, came across a motherfucker who was 664 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: you know, he was out. He was out for the 665 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: money himself. You mean, Nigga didn't teach me anything as 666 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: an older motherfucker who was a lawyer, who was a 667 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: motherfucking you know, who had been through the who had 668 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 2: been through the business. He used to work for Stax 669 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: Records back in the days. So you would think that 670 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: a motherfucker was school you on the eels of the 671 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: record business and publishing. And recall that Nigga to give 672 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: a fuck. All he wanted was every time a check 673 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: came in, where's my piece, where's my piece? And then, 674 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: like you said, in the long run, he was still 675 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: in my publishing because he had an attorney client trust account, 676 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: so my b and my checks, my sony royalty checks 677 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: would go to him. And because he had a client 678 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: trust account, he could just deposit the motherfucker into his 679 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: bank account, right and bingo, Like Nigga I hadn't seen 680 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: a royalty check or from I just started receiving being 681 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: my checks. And then Nigga I hadn't seen a royalty 682 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: check from Sony and who knows when, same type of 683 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: Angie Stone ship. Nigga, I ain't seen a check in 684 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: a billion years. And then one day the motherfuckers called 685 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: me and was like, hey, eight, we've been looking for you. 686 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: So I don't know, they're trying to cover their own 687 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: ass or whatever it is. 688 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're trying to cover their ass because 689 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: they really when the motherfuckers start calling them about that 690 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: other ship. 691 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I've taken being by the court before, 692 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 6: over over forged signatures and checks being cash from you know, 693 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 6: by by other parties and stuff like that. 694 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: It's you know, yeah, behind the Wheelson times, you know, 695 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: on the court on some other ship m hm, and 696 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: motherfuckers say you made like about sixty last year, you know, 697 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: and in royalties or whatever, I'm like, no, I didn't, nigga. 698 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 2: I ain't seen a motherfucking to nigga. Bitch broke our paperwork, 699 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 2: like here's a check, here's a check, here's a check. 700 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: Now I'm looking at a nigga like where them chicksat? 701 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: Because they never came to me. Nigga was it was 702 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: cashing the motherfuckers. Nigga was cashing them. He was feeling 703 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: like they wouldn't. He would never get caught, you get me, 704 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: He would never get caught. And that's what happened, and 705 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: that's how we fell out. Right. I haven't heard from 706 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: the nigga since that was. That was decades ago. You're 707 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: getting you know, so you know what I mean, he's 708 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: still alive. I doubt it it is still alive. I 709 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: talked to his son, Yeah, but I doubted he was. 710 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: He was sickly back then, getting sickly. Like I said, 711 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: he was older, he was sick, the wheelchair all that 712 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: type of ship. So I wouldn't know if he passed 713 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: or not. But I'm pretty sure. 714 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not functioning, you know either. 715 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: Way, So what sony did? They just stopped sending the 716 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: checks out. I guess they started, you know, they got 717 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: to the point where they wanted verification of who they 718 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: was the money to. And when you can't send a 719 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: nigga a copy of your motherfucking driver's license, and you 720 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: can't send a nigga no notarized copy and signature of 721 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: this and that, they just stopped paying the checks and 722 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: then they contact me twenty years later. 723 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: Right, it's crazy, man. It should be time for you 724 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: to get those masks back. No, you should be getting 725 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: those catalog back. The catalog back. 726 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, my first CMW works. You know what I'm saying. 727 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: All of that is pre like ninety two, ninety three, 728 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 2: So you know you can call now. 729 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 6: On the master and straight Back Music to try all 730 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 6: in early projects. Man, Sony's gonna want to They're not 731 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 6: gonna want to give you the Masterpact. 732 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: They're gonna want to renegotiate and give you a high 733 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 2: I've been getting emails from them about all we want 734 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: to repress the Straight Trekking album. 735 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: All we want to. You know. 736 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: They they using their little side companies, Legacy Department, Legacy 737 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, that's that's who contacted me, the 738 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: Legacy Department. So like they got a dude who calls me, 739 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: and who tells me when I'm getting checks and all 740 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: of that, like like, yeah, they they try, and that's 741 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: what I said they was gonna do. They don't want 742 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: to get a ship up. No, I'm going through that 743 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: with Sony right now. It's still their channels, you go. 744 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. It's still going through their channels, 745 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: which means that whatever they collecting is still going to 746 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: their bank account. They still collecting interest in all that. 747 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 6: All these labels, all these labels are in a fight 748 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 6: for market share, and they really don't want to give 749 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 6: nothing up. They want to keep market share, you know 750 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. They want to keep all these records 751 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 6: they want to keep. It's a market share war between 752 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,479 Speaker 6: these companies, you know what I'm saying. 753 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: And the thing with Legacy is too good. Legacys are profitable. 754 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: They've already been marketed already. And you did you Yeah, 755 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: can you have mentioned how much money you would make 756 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: if you started getting all your old album straight checking 757 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: them and you you press them up yourself, selling them 758 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: on the website. You can sell music to drive by 759 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: a fire four hundred dollars, bro, if you want to. 760 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: You probably well, the thing is is that? 761 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you could that that would be one 762 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 6: option or the second options that you get your master's 763 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 6: back and then you just get them to you just 764 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 6: do it. You just do a license and deal with 765 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 6: them like a ninety ten like yeah, just keep it 766 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 6: in the loop. But I get ninety percent now you 767 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, or something like that. You know, 768 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 6: you got the python going, you know what. 769 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 2: I will not the music? 770 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, let's do a ninety ten now, you know 771 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 6: what I'm saying instead of me getting uh, you know, 772 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 6: I got I got ten points in the artist woryalty 773 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 6: deal right right, Like, screw. 774 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: That, man. 775 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Hey, hey man, yeah, pretty 776 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: much you're pretty much a commodity. Yeah what I say 777 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: for the birds man, Hey hey, I got Sony guys 778 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: like you that I found millions for in the audit. 779 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 780 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, just do just due to 781 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 6: the fact that you signed a pre digital contract, all 782 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 6: that DSP, all that streaming ship, they owe you fifty 783 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 6: percent through the licensing exactly. So if you're getting ten 784 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 6: points right now, you're actually being paid underpaid five times 785 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 6: under than just will be getting five times more to 786 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 6: money through streaming YouTube spot right now. 787 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: We ain't had no deal for digital, Yeah exactly, We'll 788 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: just CVS and the fucking Alps. You do it right now, 789 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 2: one door. We didn't have no type of deal for 790 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: the albums. You do? 791 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 5: How many albums you do through the Sony system? 792 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Ship at least at least twenty million? 793 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: No? 794 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 2: No, how many? How many? 795 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: How many albums did you do? 796 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: Oh? 797 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 2: I did like Ship one, two, three, I did like 798 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: I did, like six albums for song I did like 799 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: albums for Sony. 800 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 5: I need to I need to call you after this, man, Yeah. 801 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: What the thing it was? Do you remember a few 802 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: years ago I told you I had a dude that 803 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: was gonna help you out with your get your stuff. 804 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: This hit right here. 805 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,240 Speaker 2: I did that straight checking you did. 806 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 6: To two c mws, and you did like four You 807 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 6: did like four solo thre you did like four solo life. 808 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did. Uh. I I did one CMW 809 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 2: because the first CMW album was on Orpheus Capital that 810 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: was on Capitol Records. 811 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 6: Okay, sons Universal owns that then now yeah, Capital says Universal. 812 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: So but I did straight checking them. I did music 813 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: to drive By, We Come Strapped, Uh, death Threats and 814 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: last Man Stand. I did five albums with something Yeah, you. 815 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 5: Need to holler at them. 816 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 2: And none of those and none of those was for 817 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 2: streaming in digital, Yeah, exactly digital contract. 818 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you need to holler at you all of a sudden, 819 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 6: you're gonna You're gonna pop up with seven figures on 820 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 6: the order for sure, I can guarantee. 821 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 5: I got a client. I got a client that did 822 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 5: two albums with Sony. 823 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 6: He's been dead twenty something years and we found like 824 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 6: almost three million on. 825 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 2: Him pre digital. I liked that word. 826 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: I like that word still. Yeah, I told you get 827 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: all that dog, Yes, indeed they got. They ain't no 828 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: telling what they out there and don't collect it now Google. 829 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: You always hear rumors and stuff. I heard that biz 830 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: mark he is. You would think that, you don't, you 831 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: would think biz Marky wouldn't hurt a fly dog. I 832 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: heard biz was the most scanless dude in the world 833 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: when it came to published. Yeah. 834 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 6: Man, sometimes sometimes you don't you don't want to meet 835 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 6: your heroes, you know what I'm saying. 836 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean. 837 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I've gotten you know, co partners and 838 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 6: other people like that, that he didn't abide by contractually. 839 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 6: You know, he didn't give them their divvy. You know 840 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And it's to catch me if you 841 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 6: can type thing now, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 842 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 6: it's it's it's quite unfortunate. I don't I don't really 843 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 6: think the wife understands what the catalog that she's holding. 844 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 6: There's there's there's there's money owed and stuff like that. 845 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 6: You know, just matter as if you know, she might 846 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 6: be feel like that she's a victim now because so 847 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 6: many people trying to higher at her about the money 848 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 6: and stuff like that. But you know, she just you know, 849 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 6: I think, you know, she got to come to an 850 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 6: understanding that he just didn't abide by his agreements. 851 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 852 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 6: He was supposed to give one client, I know, like 853 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 6: you know, I think they had a production company together, 854 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 6: like a seventy thirty or sixty forty or something like that, 855 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 6: and you know, he never got he never got royalty one, 856 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 6: he never got a cent from one record, never got 857 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 6: acknowledged for one record ever done. 858 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 859 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 6: Through the Bismarck catalog, you know what I'm saying, and 860 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 6: you don't remember a lot of sample related stuff. 861 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 5: Bismarck's probably the most. 862 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 6: I would take a guess and say he's probably he 863 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 6: probably made the most money for CoA Chilling as an artist, 864 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, just due to the fact 865 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 6: that he was sampled. He was probably sampled a little 866 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 6: bit more than some other guys, you know, like Mario 867 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 6: turned Mario hit just a Friend R and B record. 868 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying things like that. You know, 869 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 6: a lot of revenue was made through Bismarck. You know 870 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 6: I'm saying. I can't guarantee that he was the biggest, 871 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 6: uh royalty wise there, but there. 872 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 5: Was a lot of money being made, you know. 873 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 6: He had He also had other artists under there, Granddaddy, 874 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 6: I you, Diamond Shell, I think Kiri had his his 875 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 6: his first album through there, maybe a couple of other people. 876 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 877 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: He put Granddaddy you. 878 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: Owned, Yeah, that was his that was his artist, Yeah, 879 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 2: and that you was signed to. He came through Epic 880 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 2: Street when I was over there. 881 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, the second album, Yeah, the second album. He 882 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 5: came to Epics. 883 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 2: So he came to epic. 884 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 5: Yep, yep, exactly, good memory, yep, exactly yep. 885 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: Granddaddy you was hard man. 886 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 6: I mean he died trying to chase the royalty. I 887 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 6: was trying to help him. Then all of a sudden, 888 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 6: I already passed away. You know what I'm saying. Now, 889 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 6: you know Warner owns the master end of Coach Chilling. 890 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 3: Uh. 891 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 6: Fly Tie sold the publishing portion because he was a 892 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 6: loud to because everybody he controlled the copy right, because 893 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 6: no one had a publish an entity. He sold that 894 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 6: to Charles Kopperman, a company called CAC Music. Charles copper 895 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 6: he got for it. I have no idea why I 896 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 6: suppose to. Charles Copperman told me that he felt like 897 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 6: he highly benefited from the fly Tie deal. 898 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 899 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 6: But he died when I was talking to him. We 900 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 6: were negotiating, trying to get Granddaddy you his money. All 901 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 6: of a sudden, he all of a sudden, he passed away, 902 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So we're fighting to try 903 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 6: to get the publisher. And now for the artist, where's tired? 904 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 6: I have no idea. I think somebody's one of my 905 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 6: clients yesterday said they sew him at a party last year. 906 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 6: I would assume he's in somewhere around New York. 907 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: Them dudes made a lot of money. 908 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know that money cut It might have 909 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 6: came in one. I think he sold that catalog in 910 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 6: the late nineties or something. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 911 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 6: you know what you was over there, Molly Ma, Molly Mars. 912 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 6: You know, Molly Ma was the co chilling producer pretty much. 913 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: Yes, And he's pretty sure he's not getting what he's 914 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: supposed to get though, because he built they whole. For 915 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: a while, he was just the man out there. 916 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 5: Molly Ma was the He might have been the only 917 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 5: producer over there, right right right. 918 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 6: Eight for a while, right, I mean, I don't remember 919 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 6: anybody else for a while, the whole. 920 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 2: Car over there. Indeed, Okay, he was one of them. 921 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 2: You come through cold chilling, your beat is getting done 922 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: by Marley Ma. That was all of them. Shante uh 923 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 2: is cool g motherfucker. Craig G came and came, yeah, yeah, try. 924 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 2: They all went through Marley. 925 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, Molly's house and hits he hits the studio of State, 926 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 5: New York. 927 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, bro. 928 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 5: Then he came out with goes to the Underground off 929 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 5: off co chilling, you know. 930 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: Right right right, when you have guys like that. Man, See, 931 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: his most lucrative years were back then. It's not like 932 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: he's producing a lot of hip hop records right now. 933 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: So I think it's very important. 934 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 6: Catalog is crazy, though, bro onemost catalogue is crazy. 935 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's the joints man. And 936 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: think about it now, Think about how many people don't 937 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: went back to him. 938 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 6: I don't know if he got points. I don't know 939 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 6: if gave him points for publishing wise. A lot of 940 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 6: people seeing this stuff. Man, nah's this person, that person, 941 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 6: this person, that person. So he got extended catalog, you 942 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 6: know what I mean? He might have another eighty records 943 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 6: just from sample lated records derivatives. 944 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: Mm, exactly. You think about it like this, Hey, he 945 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: was the man? 946 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. 947 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 6: I guess when you would you, Hey, would you consider 948 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,720 Speaker 6: him like the East Coast j at one point? 949 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: Oh? Hell yeah, I would say so. 950 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: Around that time, Yeah, he he He touched a lot 951 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 2: of motherfuckers and ship like you said, a lot of 952 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 2: niggas then spunked off from this. Mama said, knock you 953 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 2: out killers like killers like shit, yeah, yeah. 954 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: He was the man. He really, he really was the 955 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 1: sound of New York kind of for a long time. 956 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: It was like and they was bumping out everywhere. 957 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 5: I don't I don't know anybody bigger at that time. 958 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 6: I mean there was competitors Herbie Lovebug and guys like that, 959 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 6: but they weren't. They were ma you know what I'm saying. 960 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 6: I mean, God bless you, but mar marm was getting 961 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 6: all the work. 962 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: Herbie love Bug was just more or less known for 963 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: everybody kind of had their own producers back then. Everybody 964 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: kind of had their own look like. 965 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you were to your people's ship. You go 966 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: outside the box, you know, Once a nigga turned you 967 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 2: on to a producer, that was it. You rolled with 968 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 2: that producer and ship. You didn't you didn't try to 969 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 2: go like we wasn't big on that, you know, back 970 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 2: in the days, like oh he doing beats and he 971 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 2: doing beats and he doing beats. No, we considered that 972 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: like within the crew, you get me, I'm the rapper, 973 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 2: he the DJ, he the beat maker, he the motherfucking muscle, 974 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 2: and then that's how we roll. And so projects we 975 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: don't go like, oh you heard that new Cube album 976 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: or the new NWA or blah blah blah, and go, oh, 977 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: we need to go get it. Dra was hard, but 978 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 2: we didn't go, yeah, we need to go get a 979 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: beat from Dre. Oh, so you weren't thinking nothing like that. 980 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't go we Pool was hard, but 981 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: we didn't go, we need to go get a beat 982 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 2: from Pool. Get slip handles, slip handles the production so 983 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: there's no there's no offens of butts, you know, slipped 984 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: into anything. A motherfucking need to be done, so we 985 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 2: don't need to go get this. The slipped to do 986 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 2: just as good. And so that's how it was settled. 987 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: We didn't run around trying to because we wanted to 988 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: keep our sound, you get me. And back then we 989 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 2: were very we're very high on not fucking with the formula. 990 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 2: You get me, like, you know, fuck with the formula. 991 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: Slip drums, that's what he does, Like we're not gonna 992 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 2: turn you know. We wasn't big back then on having 993 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 2: our album sounding all over the play. 994 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 3: What did y'all What did y'all use back then? Like 995 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 3: an SP twelve or NPC, an SPN once the MPs came. 996 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 3: He used the MP. The Slip was an SP twelve 997 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 3: hundred Master, and he was one of those motherfuckers who 998 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 3: would dig in the crates. You get I'm gonna fine shit, 999 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna automatically go to what the supposedly sound is. 1000 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 2: You get me. Body was using the Funkadelics and the 1001 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 2: motherfucking Funky Worms and the Party George Clinton's and the 1002 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 2: Fat Backs and everybody was using that ship. We wanted 1003 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 2: to be different, Like, I don't want to wrap on 1004 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 2: what everybody rapping on. It's so cliche. He typed bullshit. 1005 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: So Slip Slip came up with our own sound. Mm hmm. 1006 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: You got to think about to Slip was really digging 1007 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: them crazies. Y'all had samples. Y'all was the first one 1008 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: to come up with certain samples. Then I would here 1009 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: a few years later other cats, you know, flipping them samples. 1010 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: Y'all sit what you say? 1011 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 6: So Slip was even doing the production when you and solo, Yeah, oh. 1012 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 2: Okay, mm hmm. When I went solo. Uh, we used 1013 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 2: to split production. We had formed the production team Halfhounds 1014 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: Productions and we used Splip Productions. Slip used to do 1015 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: half for the record, and I used to do the 1016 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 2: other half or after while. I didn't play keys, but 1017 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 2: I had I was producing. I had to. I had 1018 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: all the equipment in my studio, and I would bring 1019 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: in the dude to play bass lines and play with whatever, 1020 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 2: and then after he would lay that and I would 1021 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 2: two track it or whatever. I turned around and come 1022 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 2: up with the drum track. That's how I did. That's 1023 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 2: how I did my music. And if I wanted some 1024 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 2: of that extra difficult ship, I let slip do it. 1025 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: Slip out of cutting chop and slip take a motherfucking 1026 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: voice and make a whole beat out of the motherfucker ship. 1027 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: He made a motherfucking beat out of a commercial we 1028 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 2: heard on TV. 1029 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: Nigga. 1030 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 2: We were sitting uploaded one night, and that's how he 1031 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 2: came up with straight checking them. 1032 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: Is that right? 1033 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 2: Nigga went doom, doom, doom. Hey, don't say what commercial that. 1034 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: S? I? 1035 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 2: He said, what commercial it is? Yet I'm just saying, 1036 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: but yeah, Nigga dropped the motherfucker up like Nigga what 1037 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 2: like like a motherfucker sushi chef. Nigga shop up bigger. 1038 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: I came back a couple of hours later, nigga, he 1039 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 2: was banging that ship boom boom bom boom boom. I'm 1040 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 2: like this nigga crazy is but he was just he 1041 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 2: was creative. You didn't get get a lot of niggas 1042 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 2: like that. Like I said, nigga, a lot of niggas 1043 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 2: was simple with they beat making. Slip was a creative 1044 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: motherfucker you feel you know what? 1045 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: Bro Yeah, either because he probably could have had some 1046 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 1: hill of a placements back things, y'all was big dude. 1047 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: We we did our thing. Like I said, we just 1048 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 2: was one of those. It was one of those groups 1049 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: who just fell in between the cracks on certain ship. 1050 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: It niggas didn't know what to do with us. You 1051 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 2: give me. 1052 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 3: To do. 1053 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 5: You guys did six projects, you know what I'm saying. 1054 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 2: I mean, well they you know back like that well 1055 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,959 Speaker 2: back yeah, you know, back then that was the era 1056 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 2: if you sold enough records, you get another you get 1057 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: another record. And so we was having seven album record 1058 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 2: deals and indeed you had to just be But see, 1059 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 2: my thing was I sold records for Sony. You get me. 1060 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 2: My records would go four fifty three eighty era, that 1061 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: era that was significant for yeah, for for my type 1062 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,959 Speaker 2: of ship, because we don't even fuck with this type 1063 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,439 Speaker 2: of ship. And look what's happening. We're selling fucking half 1064 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 2: a million records. 1065 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: No marketing money. 1066 00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 2: They wasn't doing ship for me. They wasn't doing a 1067 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 2: goddamn thing for me. Just off the strength of of 1068 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 2: of ship, like your MTV raps and and Source magazine. 1069 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: That's where they knew where to go because they knew 1070 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 2: at that time everybody was stumbling through the Source, everybody 1071 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 2: was watching the basement of rap City, and so they 1072 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 2: just put me on there. Let's have an interview on 1073 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 2: rap City, Let's put his face inside the Source magazine 1074 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 2: and being being that's how I saw records and just 1075 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 2: the work. 1076 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 6: Are you able to extend overseas a little bit from 1077 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 6: any of that? 1078 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 2: I just I just came back from overseas. 1079 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: Last week. 1080 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I go overseas at least once every two years. 1081 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 2: You still you still do the CMW music too, That's 1082 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 2: all they want to hear. They're way in no new ship. 1083 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Besides the solo stuff, they 1084 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 5: still still you still do. 1085 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do all CMW ship, I go on tour, 1086 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 2: I do everything from the CMW era that crosses over 1087 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 2: into the MC eight solo era. So but everybody still 1088 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 2: look at it as it's it's still one thing, like 1089 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: Most Wanted. You could say MC eight, but at the 1090 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 2: end of the day, they're all in one. You get me. 1091 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 2: You listen to Contor's Most Wanted records, you're not hearing 1092 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: two people. You only hear me. Even though we were 1093 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 2: contens Most Wanted that I kept that going until Sony 1094 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 2: decided we ain't gonna do that no more. But I 1095 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: never thought about going from Contor's Most Wanted to MC eight. 1096 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 2: If I'd had my way out of still, I'd still 1097 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 2: be going CMW to this day. 1098 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 1: Wow, you know what's funny, man, I remember you talked 1099 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: about the Source magazine. I remember, Man, I had the 1100 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: Source and I was reading the Source. You know, that 1101 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: was the Bible back then. And they had a big 1102 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: ad near man for music to drive by, and I 1103 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: went and bought that CD from Tower and Lakewood. Either 1104 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: Tower or we was the warehouse. You went to warehouse 1105 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: the warehouse because I went out it was across the 1106 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: street from the mall right there. 1107 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 2: Because it was on Yeah, we said it was on 1108 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 2: candle Wood once you got into. 1109 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: I was in the Barns and Noble reading the saurs 1110 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: right because Maria was shopping, my wife was shopping. We 1111 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: kids back then, right, and I looked. I said, this 1112 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: is hard because the album cover just really cut my eye. Right. 1113 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: I went from there and we was on the way 1114 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: back to the crib. I stopped at. I stopped at 1115 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: the warehouse, bought that in something else. 1116 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how we that's how we cover the sauce. 1117 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 2: I was on the I was on the cover of 1118 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: The Source twice. I had the solo cover and then 1119 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 2: I had to cover with me Spice and uh, scar Face. 1120 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: They said the ministers against the rip. 1121 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 2: That's uh. That's basically was my marketing. 1122 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 6: Four issue where you were you and and there's a 1123 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 6: ninety five. 1124 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 2: One, right I did. I did the ninety four edition 1125 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: right after I did Music to Drive By. That album 1126 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: was in ninety three, so I got on the cover 1127 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 2: with Face and Spice for that one. But yeah, that 1128 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: was the way they marketed me. They wasn't gonna they 1129 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 2: didn't They didn't go to radio. They didn't go to 1130 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 2: advertising on radio or you know, paying them up for 1131 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: her to play my song ten million times, they said, 1132 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 2: fuck that, We're just gonna keep it in publications, and 1133 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 2: that's how they marketed. 1134 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 5: I mean I was buying all the back then. 1135 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of us was. I was buying 1136 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 2: that ship to see who was hot it was, who 1137 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 2: was on the mixtape, you know who, album was raided 1138 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 2: this or that? And then sometimes a lot of the times, 1139 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: I want to read the articles you get when they 1140 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 2: do those big layouts on the nigga. I want to 1141 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 2: I was interested. I want you came up from and 1142 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 2: what he went through and what and you know how 1143 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 2: he get to this point right now, because you had 1144 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 2: to be a nice artist to get one of them 1145 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: full paid spread. You get me. You got special back 1146 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 2: then exactly, or they could just take what you know what, man, 1147 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 2: anybody I want I want to believe that half the 1148 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 2: time that you know, they were putting niggas on because 1149 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 2: they were truly gifted and deserved it, and not the 1150 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: nigga just sent them a check for one hundred grand. 1151 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 2: You get me. Now, we already know some artists, you know, 1152 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 2: that's the way it went. 1153 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people definitely was paying like the way, but 1154 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 1: for the most part, the source used to get it 1155 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: right when it came to that dog. So I don't 1156 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't think they. I think they were so they 1157 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: were so in tune with the culture at the time. Man, 1158 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: that was like probably the best hip hop publication ever 1159 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: because they really made a break. If you saw somebody 1160 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: in there had three or four mics, if you saw 1161 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: a five mic, you want to go by that album 1162 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: because it was like it was official and they was 1163 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: on point with it. But I do think they had 1164 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot of West Coast bias back then. I heard 1165 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: that was true. Sore and told me that, and he 1166 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 1: said that they was very biased against the West Coast 1167 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,439 Speaker 1: back then. 1168 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure they weren't East Coast publication, Like, you know, 1169 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 2: why would I why would I give any love to 1170 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: the West Coast. We're East Coast publication. You know, go 1171 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 2: start your own motherfucking magazine. But ye said, you give 1172 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 2: me fuck that we represent the East Coast. I never 1173 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: had no issue with the motherfuckers they always heard like 1174 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 2: when Benzeno, when when they we went to go fuck 1175 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 2: with them, you know, had the issue with them. They 1176 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 2: put me on the cover twice. 1177 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: I had Hey, you had love from New York, New York. Look, 1178 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: you probably got more love in New York. You get 1179 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: a lot of love out here, bro, But between the 1180 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Midwest and the East Coast, dog, I think you probably 1181 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: got a popping more out there. 1182 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 2: And you do what did you do a song with 1183 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: Premiere a couple of years ago? 1184 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Oh? 1185 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 2: Your Premiere's my butt, that's my peep. I heard it. 1186 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 2: I remember the track that you. I did a whole 1187 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 2: project with Premiere back in twenty seventeen. Okay, yeah, we 1188 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 2: did a project together. Even before the end. 1189 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 6: No song, I still listened to swear I swear my mother, Bro, 1190 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 6: that song, I'd be in the gym. 1191 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Listen the ship that you do with Pebob Oh. Yeah, 1192 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 2: One Life to Live? Yeah, Bro, my son one of 1193 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: my favorite songs on that on that project, I did 1194 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 2: that song and my son wasn't even born, and he 1195 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 2: loved that song to death right now, one of his 1196 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 2: favorite songs. And it kind of fucked me up because 1197 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 2: you know, the youth they into they shit, man, You 1198 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 2: don't particularly think that, you know, Motherfucker's twenty one and 1199 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 2: under is gonna be banging MC eight, But now that record, 1200 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 2: but that was my shit. Shit, he loved that shit. Nigga, 1201 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 2: I was in the motherfucking uh. Where was I at? 1202 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: Where the fuck was I at? I can't even think 1203 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 2: where I was at. Now, I'm in the store somewhere. No, 1204 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm in the gym. I'm in the gym, chopping it 1205 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 2: up with one of my boys, and I see his 1206 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 2: dad walking by with his two kids. They couldn't have 1207 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 2: been no more. They couldn't have been no more than 1208 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 2: fucking ten and twelve. You get me, nigga. The youngest 1209 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 2: one stopped turning around and said, MC eight is that 1210 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 2: you can I take a picture with you. I'm looking 1211 01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 2: at myself, like, where this little kid know me from? 1212 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 1: You know? 1213 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 2: But the younger generation is starting to get a little 1214 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 2: open to you know. 1215 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 1: You hear me. 1216 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Fuck, they heard me fuck with Kendrick. A lot of 1217 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 2: them play the Grand Theft Auto Game and recognize me 1218 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: from there. So that's where the youth is connecting because 1219 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 2: a lot of them still on that game and ship 1220 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of them still bumps Kendrick's first project, 1221 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 2: You get Me. 1222 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a lot of people to play. There's 1223 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people to play that game, Like you say, 1224 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: it et a lot of them, man, You wiels m 1225 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: c eight. Man, I ain't gonna let you keep sitting 1226 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: there and sleep on yourself, you wiel m c eight. 1227 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 2: I just be mind. I just be trying to be mellow. Man, 1228 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 2: you feel me. I want to go here, man, I 1229 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 2: want to go to the grocery shot store and pick 1230 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 2: up my dog food without you know, niggas and paparazzi 1231 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 2: all outside. And I like that type of lifestyle though 1232 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't mind it. I don't complain about it. 1233 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: You get me. 1234 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: And I was never the type to bother people when 1235 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 1: I saw them out in public, probably because I was 1236 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: always hanging out. You know, DJ Bob Cat is my 1237 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 1: god brother, right, so I was always with Bob, and 1238 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: I was used to being around you know, people, celebrities 1239 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 1: and stuff. So I never went and bothered people because 1240 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 1: I used to hate with me and Bob. Or be 1241 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: somewhere and people are come and try to solicit. You 1242 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like you're trying to eat 1243 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: your food or whatever, and somebody's trying to give you 1244 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: a CD. You feel an a tape back then you 1245 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: know somebody's trying to give you a tape, give you 1246 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: their dem one stuff. Bro. People just don't want to 1247 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: be bothered. So I never was wanting to just run 1248 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: up on people in pupplic Hey, man, can I hear 1249 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 1: you autographic? Hey man, I bump? Now if I saw him, 1250 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: I might say, man, I like your shit or whatever 1251 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: like that. But I kept it moving, right, I kept 1252 01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 1: it pushing. So gon goog, where can people? You just 1253 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: don't mess with anybody, or do you? 1254 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1255 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 6: You know I listened to everybody that got a case. 1256 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I mean, if it makes sense, 1257 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 6: you know, we you know, we try to make it happen. 1258 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna give you all the plug, the gun, 1259 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: the homye man, but don't be hitting them up. If 1260 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 1: you don't sold ten records to the Empire, and you're 1261 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: talking about empire, owe you some money. You know, you 1262 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: don't have time to fuck with nothing like that. This 1263 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 1: is for the major the majors out there that might 1264 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: have got robbed, might have got jerked. I'm pretty sure y'all. 1265 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 2: Got legacy, the legacy artists. 1266 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: DJ quick, how that how that gone go? Because I'm 1267 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you when you see a pulling up in 1268 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: the Rose Royce seven eight months. 1269 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 4: From good You know what I'm saying, Legacy artists, they 1270 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 4: you know, I relate to them. 1271 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 6: They kind of motivate me more than dealing with these 1272 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 6: young guys, you know what I'm saying. 1273 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 5: Like if I'm like, you. 1274 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 6: Know, like it's it's so, it's just it feels like 1275 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 6: it's like one of my peers or something. 1276 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm pretty sure. I'm almost 1277 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 1: positive dog that this man right here got a lot 1278 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: more money out there. I'm pretty sure DJ quickly he 1279 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: was on the more Scaler's record label in the world. 1280 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 5: I mean profile, like I said, I just don't. 1281 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 6: I mean, I got clients right now that haven't been 1282 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 6: you know, you're supposed at least get a quarterly of 1283 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 6: by annual royalty statement and things like that. You know, 1284 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 6: I got clients like, I haven't got it. I haven't 1285 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 6: got a statement in five six years or something like that. 1286 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 6: Then he might give you one statement and then he'll 1287 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 6: disappear again for another five years. 1288 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: You know what one told me he has never seen 1289 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: an album royalty. He said, I ain't never seen a 1290 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:41,439 Speaker 1: royalty chick. 1291 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 2: What I said, I've never seen a royalty check until 1292 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 2: Nigga last year thirty years later until last year, until 1293 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 2: late was like nigga, where you've. 1294 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: Been Damn there forty years later. 1295 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 5: I mean, at least they're paying you forward, you know 1296 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 1297 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 6: But you know, I just believe that there's a guy 1298 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 6: like you that did that many projects. 1299 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 5: There's definitely more than that. 1300 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they still got some more, definitely. 1301 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Maybe what's the name of your business? 1302 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 5: Copyright maintenance? 1303 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Copyright man? That sound, what is copyright maintenance? They come 1304 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 1: in the rerec shop. So you stealing mass record labels 1305 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: out there? My man gongu is coming for you. He 1306 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna come and lift the covers off your ass and 1307 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: expose everything, every everything going on. 1308 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,439 Speaker 6: You know what, Michael Jacksons, Bro, you're about to sething 1309 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 6: about to happen to me the way you're picking me up. 1310 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, man, The thing is this, It's 1311 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: always been real simple to me because I'm a businessman. 1312 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,520 Speaker 1: You make you take whatever you spent back. Like, if 1313 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,800 Speaker 1: you spend some money, you you you're supposed to recoup 1314 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: your money, right. But whatever situation you got with somebody, 1315 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: you give them, they bread, you take yours, so y'all 1316 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: can keep doing it. You don't rob nobody's stuff, browing 1317 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: just off on a pocket disc and let them just 1318 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: going to go to ublivty. I don't care because the 1319 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: thing is without the talent, you ain't shit. 1320 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 6: I hey, you man, I think they think it's a 1321 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 6: diamond dozen And I think they think that they can 1322 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 6: take your money and you're still gonna come and perform 1323 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 6: and try to do another album. You know what I'm saying. 1324 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 6: They just think they got it like that, you know 1325 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But I mean, I just think it's 1326 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,679 Speaker 6: a new regime. You know what I'm saying. We're trying 1327 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 6: to change the game a little bit, you know what 1328 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 6: I'm saying. You know, I mean, I've seen people all 1329 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,759 Speaker 6: my life, you know, get jerked, you know, from deals 1330 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 6: and stuff like that, from all ages. 1331 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,600 Speaker 5: And it's gotta be somebody, you know what I'm saying. 1332 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 6: Somebody's somebody's gotta you know, I think there's just needs 1333 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 6: to be more of me, you know, people even greater. 1334 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. You gotta have a little heart, 1335 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 1336 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 1: They get some guys out here. I got to shut 1337 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: off the hommie jazzy jazzy management. You know, Jazzy is 1338 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 1: pretty good at what he do. He recovers a lot 1339 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:53,839 Speaker 1: of stuff. 1340 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 5: Okay, good for him. 1341 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: He goes out and recovers a lot of money for cats. 1342 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 1: So there's a few casts out here, but it's also 1343 01:08:58,840 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: a whole. 1344 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 2: But we need to vote Tron. We need to be 1345 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,759 Speaker 2: a whole. You know what I'm saying. 1346 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: Why why you got good dudes like you and Jazzy? 1347 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: What makes it bad? Is this a whole bunch of 1348 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: Shade tree as motherfuckers too that go out there. 1349 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 6: And then steal you feel I'm saying, they're with a 1350 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 6: minority man. 1351 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's easy. 1352 01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 6: It's easy to beat us up because you know, there's 1353 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 6: only two in the park and there's five hundred of them. 1354 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, be running, you know what 1355 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1356 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 6: It's like, you know, this is an easy look. Oh, 1357 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 6: they might've got him, but they didn't get all these 1358 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 6: other people, you know what I'm saying. So it's like 1359 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 6: I'm only picking little pieces, getting this guy, Getting this guy. Bro, 1360 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 6: there's another thousand, two five to ten twenty thousand artists 1361 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 6: out there that are going through the same thing. You 1362 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. It's like, Bro, how many people 1363 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 6: am I helping a year? You know what I'm saying, 1364 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 6: It's nothing compared to what's out there. Am I really 1365 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 6: making a dent? I don't know. You know what I'm saying. 1366 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, less than one percent of 1367 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:04,839 Speaker 6: the industry exactly. 1368 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: I'm a linked I'm gonna link you, says, Yeah, Gongoo, 1369 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: wish your Instagram. 1370 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 6: Bro, Hey, man, g O n g u Roach, g 1371 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 6: o n g gongo roach Instagram. 1372 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 2: Hit me in the d M. Let's chop it up 1373 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 2: and see what I can do for you. 1374 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 5: Man. 1375 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, before we go home. 1376 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 6: Website, I got the website coming. It's already I already 1377 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 6: made it, but I just haven't really posted it. But 1378 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 6: that's copyright maintenance. Should be copyright maintenance dot com something 1379 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 6: like that. I mean, I'll put it in my tags 1380 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 6: sooner or later, probably within the next couple of days 1381 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 6: or so. But for right now, just reach me at 1382 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 6: gongoach at at in the DM and you can go 1383 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 6: watch my YouTube videos and YouTube you know what I'm saying. 1384 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 6: And I tell you you know, I'll tell you what 1385 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 6: my forte is and hopefully you're inspired by it to 1386 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 6: give me a call. 1387 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And on that note right there, I 1388 01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 1: want to tell everybody something, man, life short, don't spend 1389 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: it on bullshit. 1390 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 2: We got here, hey man, Thank you once again. 1391 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,839 Speaker 5: It's one of my more favorite interviews. 1392 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Man. 1393 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 6: You know, I get to talk to and talk about 1394 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 6: all this old stuff about this makes me feel like 1395 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 6: I was like seventeen eighteen. 1396 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I'll be telling I'll be telling a man because sometimes 1397 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 1: I feel bad because we have somebody on the show 1398 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: and eight be on the road or something, something be happening, 1399 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: and then you could tell they don't want to stay like, 1400 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: you know you cool and stuff. They're like, man, damn, 1401 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: eight was here because I wanted to meet him. You 1402 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm like, dog, don't worry, we 1403 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 1: gonna get you back on We interviewed one of the 1404 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: homies and I tell you, man, I promise you when 1405 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: they come back, we got. 1406 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 5: You, hey man. Anytime you need man here, man. 1407 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: I sure you. Thank you, Bro, I'm gonna get with 1408 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: you that actually we out here. They don't need to 1409 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: hear all this. Hold on for sure,