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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We decided that we were going to bring Jamie Lee

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Speaker 2: Lardner back.

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Speaker 1: She's going to talk to us about.

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Speaker 2: All things Hollywood because sometimes you just need a break

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Speaker 2: and you want to kind of gossip a little.

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Speaker 1: Right, Jamie, just a little.

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Speaker 2: So we had talked about Blake Lively the last time

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, because this whole story about

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift getting pulled into this situation came out, but

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Speaker 2: then that kind of died off. We didn't really hear

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Speaker 2: much about it, and then recently Ryan Reynolds made a comment,

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Speaker 2: but where did Taylor Swift go?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, as we remember, Taylor really just came off

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Speaker 3: the Era's tour and that was an epically long tour.

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Speaker 4: So honestly, she's just recouping. And as far as.

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Speaker 3: The Blake Lively of it all, she's been in the

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Speaker 3: mix and muddying the water pretty much the whole time,

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Speaker 3: depending on which side finds her useful in a given moment.

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Speaker 4: But it starts to feel like she's being used for

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Speaker 4: a headline.

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Speaker 2: M yes, yes, So what is the full story now

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Speaker 2: on the Blake Lively debacle?

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Speaker 3: So the latest is basically, speaking of Taylor Swift, it

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Speaker 3: sounds like her messages are going to be admissible.

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Speaker 4: And what Blake had.

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Speaker 3: Been trying to argue was attorney's eyes only, and Baldoni

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Speaker 3: got a win and when they said all communications between

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Speaker 3: Swift and Lively are to be submitted, So.

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Speaker 4: It was a win for Baldoni on that one.

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Speaker 1: So she's suing him.

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Speaker 2: I thought he had a suit against her, and then

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Speaker 2: that was dropped. So where does that all the legal

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Speaker 2: battle stand between the two of them. And this is

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Speaker 2: about that movie. It ends with us, and she was

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Speaker 2: accusing him of sexual harassment, and then he was accusing

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Speaker 2: her of defamation.

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Speaker 1: So give us a little update on where they stand.

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Speaker 3: So the New York Times won, and he was doing

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Speaker 3: the New York Times, so the New York Times was

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Speaker 3: able to prove that they did not defame him. But

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Speaker 3: now he's defending himself against her civil rights complaint and

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Speaker 3: the sexual harassment claims, so it's still messy.

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Speaker 2: Mm.

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Speaker 1: This is so not good.

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Speaker 2: So in the midst of this, now we're hearing people

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Speaker 2: saying the production has been down in LA and there's

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Speaker 2: obviously we're also watching a political issue in LA. And

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Speaker 2: I think because every time the cameras kind of turn

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Speaker 2: on Los Angeles for any type of political activity, there

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Speaker 2: seems to be a conversation about their biggest industry, which

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Speaker 2: is the movies, and there were seeing a lot of

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Speaker 2: what was happening in La moving out to Georgia and

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Speaker 2: other states. There's kind of a question as to what

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Speaker 2: happens next because the President has said he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to see Hollywood making movies in other countries. He wants

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Speaker 2: movies made in the United States. However, people in Hollywood

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Speaker 2: are saying it's too expensive to stay in Hollywood because

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Speaker 2: it used to be easy to make movies there. Now

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Speaker 2: we're looking for other places. You would think that it

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Speaker 2: would be less expensive because of all the sets.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot to unpack there. So I'll just

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Speaker 4: start with the sets first.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hollywood is famous for its soundstages, and the business

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Speaker 3: of Hollywood is very much localized in Los Angeles. Your executives,

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Speaker 3: your producers, your talent agents, your lawyers. They're still pretty

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Speaker 4: But when you talk.

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Speaker 3: Production, a lot of scripts are location based. So yes,

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Speaker 3: in effect, Atlanta has great tax credits, so it's attractive

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Speaker 4: That's really going to be your.

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Speaker 3: Television shows though, because television shows, if they're shooting on location,

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Speaker 3: need that consistent availability to location. When we move to

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Speaker 3: movie sets, Game of Thrones could only be shot in

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Speaker 3: Wales and Croatia. You're just not going to get those landscapes.

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Speaker 3: So give all the tax credits you want. The film's

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Speaker 3: going to be set where it's going to be set.

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Speaker 3: The story has to be told where it's told. So

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Speaker 3: I don't really see even free.

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Speaker 4: Tax incentives, right, no taxes at all. It's not going

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Speaker 4: to change. If the story's set in Beijing, we need

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Speaker 1: Right, right.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there is though a push that

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Speaker 1: Are they moving out of Hollywood?

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Speaker 3: Yes, But again people aren't shooting on sound stages anymore,

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Speaker 3: Like that old Hollywood model was really based on the

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Speaker 4: These are all location, location, location.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. There was a real downturn though in movies.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that we saw this in twenty

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Speaker 1: It's more streaming.

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Speaker 2: And I've seen a lot of new like limited series

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Speaker 2: saw one called Sirens, and then everybody's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: will there be a sequel to this? And I'm just

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Speaker 2: kind of wondering, do you see that Hollywood is going

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Speaker 2: more at the streaming route and no longer into the theaters.

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Speaker 3: So Hollywood is in the business of data right, and

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Speaker 3: consumer behavior is leaning towards streaming. Me personally, I like

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Speaker 3: what streamer they're on, so that impacts their production value.

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Speaker 4: But people aren't going to movie theaters anymore. It's expensive.

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Speaker 4: You're with an outlier of a crowd, like you could

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Speaker 4: have a talker ruining the movie the whole time.

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Speaker 3: You want to hit the pause button and go get

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Speaker 3: your own snacks, not be behold into stale popcorn at

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Speaker 3: thirteen dollars a bucket. It makes more sense to cater

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Speaker 3: to the streaming market. And people are watching a lot

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, So what's the buzz in Hollywood. Is there any

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Speaker 2: like true gossip going on these days?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's always gossip. It's the skin of the week.

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Speaker 3: I would say right now though, people are really concerned

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Speaker 3: about Justin Bieber. He's when I've been talking to my

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Speaker 3: friends every and it's been like, you know, that poor guy,

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Speaker 3: he's got a lot going on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because so that we'll just expand on that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: There was a social media message that went out that

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Speaker 2: I thought this was kind of it was kind of

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Speaker 2: also been some question about the whole situation with P

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Speaker 2: referenced multiple times that he's got anger issues because of

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Speaker 2: the way he was treated in the past. And so

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Speaker 2: if we kind of journey through Justin Bieber's life for

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Speaker 2: a minute, he was obviously a very young Hollywood star

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Speaker 2: It seemed like at a very young age, a lot

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Speaker 2: how did that happen And was he a part of

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Speaker 2: maybe these freakout parties that Diddy was having And he

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Speaker 1: It's I saw an article.

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Speaker 2: Today saying that people have known that his marriage was

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Speaker 1: So these text messages that he posted was.

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Speaker 2: A guy who or it seems like it was a

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Speaker 2: I'm lashing out, because they said, you know you're lashing out.

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Speaker 2: You've got anger issues, and he kind of excused it as, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have anger issues.

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Speaker 1: This is because of my past. There's nothing you can

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Speaker 3: The bog on the street is actually a lot of

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Speaker 3: concern everyone I talk to is concerned. They don't want

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot more respect for what he's going through.

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Speaker 3: It is clear it's mental health related. As far as

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Speaker 4: When people become parents.

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Speaker 3: It kicks up a lot of dust for how their

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Speaker 3: his behavior, but it definitely explains his behavior. And I honestly,

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you need counseling.

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Speaker 3: He needs a good counselor to navigate these issues because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a hard situation because we've watched

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's been people that have certainly shared the

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Speaker 2: we're at this point where we've had some of this

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Speaker 2: him as well, well, you can expose it all, but

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Speaker 2: to remember. And bringing up Brittany, I think it was

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Speaker 2: interesting because social media has taken over in such a

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Speaker 2: And then you see that you have Britney Spears kind

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Speaker 2: of you're seeing I mean, like I said, we didn't

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Speaker 2: Britney spears. And still today we're seeing these strange videos

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Speaker 2: of her dancing and kind of melting down. But there

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Speaker 2: was this whole free Britney movement. Any're looking back on

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Speaker 2: the what did those people know about her life?

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Speaker 4: I'm firmly team free Brittany.

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Speaker 3: She's harmless as far as she needs a conservatorship. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think Kanye West does way more harm That man

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Speaker 3: Britney should be. Brittany was a slave to our childhoods

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Speaker 3: and was the backbone of our childhoods. She was the

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Speaker 3: soundtrack to us growing up. Let her go do her

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Speaker 3: dancing videos. She earned it, That's how I feel she

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Speaker 3: earned it. She doesn't have to entertain us anymore. She

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Speaker 4: Go on.

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Speaker 2: Makes the latest person that has been doing these weird videos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean that was very weird.

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Speaker 3: You know, I never know, but I do have like

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Speaker 3: She's not used to making an audience love her because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm really what is your take on that?

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Speaker 2: The other day where people were like, oh, this was

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Speaker 3: Right, Like I didn't know that could be a thing.

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Speaker 3: And I was also like, if you're a juror, you

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Speaker 1: Right, And you would think that you would think that that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you're a jury, you would

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Speaker 1: But you never know. I guess that's odd.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's allowed. At the same time, you

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Speaker 4: Jurors, So yeah, I guess that is what it is.

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Speaker 4: But I thought that was so interesting.

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Speaker 1: That is so interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, thanks for coming on today,

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Speaker 2: Jamie Lee Lardner. I appreciate having you. Thanks Tutor, and

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