WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: The "Wow!" Signal

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking sideways. I don't know. You never know. The story

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<v Speaker 1>is of things we simply don't know the answer too. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi there, I'm taking a page from Steve's book today

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, well, hi there there. I'm Devin, I'm Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Steve, and we three, with our powers combined, are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking sideways. Oh. I thought we'd planned this before. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to like coordinate a little bit. Dang, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely not a page out of my bad

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<v Speaker 1>not a page from my book. We actually didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>some superhero music for for this, you know, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>With the number of mysteries Joseph's Joe is so far,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to solve another one. We're probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we are, I don't know. I think we will, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe thinks, so Steve doesn't. I say, maybe, Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>at least come up with a plausible theory. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I love couple. Probably you can accept that. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I this is a big one. You guys know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the wow signal, It's the wow yes wow. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you guys could see the crazy faces that we're making.

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<v Speaker 1>Always say that, Um, but I don't want to start

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<v Speaker 1>out the story the way everybody else does because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's super boring. Also, I don't want to Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about something picked up by a

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<v Speaker 1>radio observatory or radio telescope called the Big ear Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's officially called the Ohio State University Radio Observatory. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a how do you say that cross type radio

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<v Speaker 1>telescope located on the grounds of the Perkins Observatory in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ohio Wesleyan University from nineteen sixty three to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>at which point it was annexed, torn down, and became

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<v Speaker 1>a golf course. Yeah seriously, yeah, seriously golf course. Now yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they developed that land for like a golf

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<v Speaker 1>to expand a golf course and also put in some housing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor science, poor science of other radio telescopes out there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know Joe has a better grasp on science,

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<v Speaker 1>your science stuff like this than I do. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let him talk about what a Crouse radio telescope has.

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<v Speaker 1>It has three components, right right, yeah? Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine imagine a flat like sort of almost football field

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<v Speaker 1>sort of shaped place, and then at one end of

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<v Speaker 1>this At this thing, you've got what's called the flat array.

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<v Speaker 1>The flat aright reflects radio way as it come down

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<v Speaker 1>from the sky across the field into this vertical parabolic array,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a curved array, and that reflects the signals

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<v Speaker 1>back towards the flattery and right in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>flat ter ay, there are these two things called feeder

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<v Speaker 1>cones which which receive the concentrated radio ways into them

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<v Speaker 1>and they convert them into electrical energy. So the then

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is adjusted north and south by moving the

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<v Speaker 1>flatter ay up and down, so essentially it's hinged at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom and then it just like moves up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to like, say, further south, you

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<v Speaker 1>move it up. For the north, you move it down,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how it works. Very and then in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties thing I think that they had changed the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they put one of the arrays on tracks. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>put the feeder cones on tracks. Oh, so they could

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<v Speaker 1>move east to west and stay with a whatever kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tone and yeah, are there if there was just

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<v Speaker 1>some galaxy they wanted to observe more closely something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>they could actually move them slowly side to side and

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<v Speaker 1>keep it in focus for longer than seventy two seconds

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, otherwise, and we rotated out of because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the rotation of the ears. Yeah, that's how long they

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<v Speaker 1>could focus on some of I mean, anything with any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of meaningful distance from us. Basically, Yeah, basically it

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<v Speaker 1>was that the mercy of the of the turning of

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. Yeah, So this update would have been really

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful to have had on August fifteen ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>a mere three years before they instituted the track system.

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<v Speaker 1>So the update you're talking about is where the was

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<v Speaker 1>it the ears the feeder cones as well? Just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I understand which update we were talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been really helpful to have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was a member of study. I think is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the way you say that's participating in steady. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>participating that you can can't really same member. Yeah, itization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a group of people mostly volunteer anyway, aren't they. Yeah? Yes, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He recorded what is widely believed to be some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best proof for intelligent extraterrestrial life out there, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least at the very least one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that pretty much everybody agrees the best explanation for is

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent extraterrestrial life. And that's the wow signal. The signal. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe we'll talk about it first. Some housekeeping. SET

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<v Speaker 1>is the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. It's a collective name

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of activities undertaken to search for intelligent

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<v Speaker 1>extraterrestrial life. And it's comprised mostly I think of scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly of people who are not like crack pot alien theorists,

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<v Speaker 1>people who are pretty respected. Yeah, it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all waing. That's I'm sure there's nuts in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>but most of it. A lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>take part in it are people who have do have

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<v Speaker 1>access to high levels of you know, like the big

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<v Speaker 1>ear or you've got to be really qualified to operate

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<v Speaker 1>or take part and use that equipment. So we make totals,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course not everybody is. Some people are just

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<v Speaker 1>home astronomers and things like that. But generally speaking, if

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<v Speaker 1>SETI says something, they deny a lot of stuff. They say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's definitely not stuff, so they don't jump right to

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<v Speaker 1>it every time. I got you. Yeah, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>do need to talk a little bit about this thing

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<v Speaker 1>called cosmic background noise. You guys know what that is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cosmic background noise is recorded at about fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>mega hurts and it's it's what you hear when you

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<v Speaker 1>turn the radio tune in to nothing. It's white noise basically.

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<v Speaker 1>And what that is is it's just left over thermal

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<v Speaker 1>noise from the Big Bang, which I think is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just watch some Big Bang the other days in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pretty cool right that we can still hear

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<v Speaker 1>this left over something from it. Yeah, the Big Bang

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<v Speaker 1>is still with us, and I have to admit that

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<v Speaker 1>that is it's more supposedly. Is that a theory or

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<v Speaker 1>is it accepted as a fact the noise is left

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<v Speaker 1>over from the Big Bang? Oh, because it's well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all theories and we need the Big Bang is

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<v Speaker 1>only it's really weird to me. I'm not It's just

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<v Speaker 1>really strange to think that this noise and this radiation

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<v Speaker 1>has been bouncing around for that long from that one event. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dispersing still, it's like an echo essentially that I could. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to reiterate, we mentioned it in passing a little

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<v Speaker 1>garbled before. The way that this array worked at the

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<v Speaker 1>time was that it was only it was focused by

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<v Speaker 1>their rotation. Essentially, it was stationary. So if you think

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<v Speaker 1>of it as like a pole kind of or just

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<v Speaker 1>like a tube extending out of the Earth into space,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we see. And of course things come into

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<v Speaker 1>focus and out of focus, so there's a little variable there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's we're only focused on what we can see,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Earth's rotation took us out at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>took us out of any kind of meaningful field of vision,

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<v Speaker 1>every of me two seconds. So what what what an

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<v Speaker 1>analogy that would make sense? Tell me if this is correct.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember when you were a kid and you got

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<v Speaker 1>the paper towel tube and you'd use it like it

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<v Speaker 1>was a telescope. So with this is so, the way

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<v Speaker 1>I'm understanding the way this thing works is if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>using that to look and I'm sitting on the Merrio

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<v Speaker 1>ground in the playground and it's moving slowly and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking through it, I'm going to see something and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go for if it's spinning left right, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to go from one side across that entire

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<v Speaker 1>field division and then pass out of that field division,

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<v Speaker 1>and that takes seventy two seconds exactly, alright, just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to because this whole thing again, this is the way

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<v Speaker 1>this this telescope works. Yeah, it fruit loops my brain. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of really great resources online will

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<v Speaker 1>link to and we'll put some pictures up of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on that if you just look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be immediately apparent what we're talking about. Our words

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<v Speaker 1>are only so good. That didn't help me. So of

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<v Speaker 1>you who didn't know that. You know, astronomers don't just

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<v Speaker 1>use optical telescopes. There's all kinds of radiation out there

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all it all carries all kinds of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>information in it. And so yeah, I was reading the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other radio telescopes out there, like that

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<v Speaker 1>one in Puerto Rico, the one that was in Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Eye would change the fond Yeah, yeah, I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>some of the some of the amazing discoveries they've made

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<v Speaker 1>with that thing, you know, And so it's like they've

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<v Speaker 1>done some seriously important work and well in the advances

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<v Speaker 1>in technology. They were put up in space. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>ten years or more now. No, it wasn't humble, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was some other telescope or some other array that

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<v Speaker 1>they could use, which is how they were figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>where the most gravitation and heat in the universe is

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<v Speaker 1>because it was mapping all of that, because it actually

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<v Speaker 1>had really fine detail for what it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>area it was covering. So it's these things just they

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<v Speaker 1>go just like smartphones, they go with leaps and bounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It just takes longer to figure out what the data

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<v Speaker 1>is telling. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's kind of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big you know, like with the Hobble, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you get some really cool pictures out of the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So with the radio telescopes, what people tend to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on is this kind of Goldilocks frequency, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>frequency that scientists theorized that pretty much any intelligent extraterrestrial

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<v Speaker 1>life would likely broadcast in because it would signify both

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they were there and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they were intelligent. I'm not really I don't totally understand

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<v Speaker 1>why they think that particular one is good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good with it, I'm fine with it. Yeah, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, I I could think that the

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<v Speaker 1>aliens would be broadcasting all kinds of different frequencies, but

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I can tell, it's it's called the

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<v Speaker 1>hydrogen line UM and it's once one thousand, four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty point four zero five seven five one seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven mega hurts exactly, which is the the electronnetic radiation

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<v Speaker 1>spectral line, which that is created by a change of

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<v Speaker 1>the energy state of the neutral hydrogen atoms. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>language that I will openly admit I lifted straight off

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<v Speaker 1>of Wikipedia, because nobody knows about this stuff. Joe might

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<v Speaker 1>know about this stuff off the top of the head,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think, as far as I can tell, scientists

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<v Speaker 1>kind of assume that hydrogen is the most prevalent than

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first one. That's why it's the most right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the assumption is that since it's the

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<v Speaker 1>most prevalent, that any intelligent life would like we have

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, we're smart enough to identify this and also

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<v Speaker 1>know at what mega mega hurts at wattage frequently, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>it changes, And it's universal. It's not like a number, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't. It doesn't depend on our kind of life

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. It's universal. So they would broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>in this to say hey, we're here and we're smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough to understand this, and to you, yeah, and also,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're smart enough to broadcast this because it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a lot of energy to broadcast something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is an important number. Basically, you know, fourteen megaheurts'

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<v Speaker 1>all right, megahirs rounded rounding is probably the easiest way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were listening at that frequency. That's well, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't listening at that frequency. They were listening at all frequencies,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was the frequency that people were listening for.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, really cool, Steve got the glazed overlook. Yeah, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>they were listening for I don't, I don't. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping that something would come in on that frequency

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<v Speaker 1>and other resette was there. They're just an open broadband

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<v Speaker 1>listening to listening to everything and that they were hoping.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were Their hypothesis was if something is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come through, is going to come through this frequency? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to signify likely signify intelligent extra trust. I

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<v Speaker 1>got it, I got it. Cool. I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, because I mean, not gonna A radio telescope

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<v Speaker 1>is like an antenna, and antenna's antennas are usually specific

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<v Speaker 1>to frequencies. So like, that's why I like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a little AM radio has got a

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<v Speaker 1>little short one, and then you've got it like something

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<v Speaker 1>that transmits or receives on a really long band, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a really long, long, long antenna. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that this thing is really capable of receiving all frequencies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I haven't. I haven't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see anything in the research that said anything. I think regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the one they were paying attention to. Was this

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<v Speaker 1>four magnats. Yeah right, because that's that's the one, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one they cared about. So who knows, somebody might know. Listener,

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<v Speaker 1>call out aliens, tell us all right, so housekeeping. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're done with housekeeping. I think we are. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so cool is now we get to tell go into

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<v Speaker 1>the story. I know story. I know, anybody die yet.

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<v Speaker 1>August fifty seven, Jerry Emon is using the Big Ear

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<v Speaker 1>as a part of his Steti project. The Big Ear

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<v Speaker 1>records all the noise it hears in an alpha numeric

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<v Speaker 1>print out that correlates to the intensity of the noise.

0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Most numbers that are recorded are like one to five.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the occasional six or seven, just background noise. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess this guy was not actually sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>with headphones on his ears. He was probably off sipping

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<v Speaker 1>coffee or maybe tequila. And then he just look at

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<v Speaker 1>look at the paper. Just go look at the paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the paper print out later. Yeah, Because, as

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<v Speaker 1>Steve mentioned earlier, apparently white noise sucks to listen to

0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.320
<v Speaker 1>for some people. I find it comforting. Steve apparently does

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<v Speaker 1>not well. And it actually makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>if you can record all this stuff and just glance

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<v Speaker 1>at the paper later and look for anomalies. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little time saving. Absolutely. But most of these sixes

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<v Speaker 1>and sevens that you see can be attributed to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reflections, because you know, we make a lot of noise.

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<v Speaker 1>Their space jump that floats around out there for a

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<v Speaker 1>second or two is that pesky moon bounces stuff back

0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:12.920
<v Speaker 1>at its true sucks, but stupid moon, We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it soon, don't worry. In seven, for the

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<v Speaker 1>full seventy two seconds that the big ear was able

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<v Speaker 1>to receive it, it hurts something well unheard of the

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<v Speaker 1>print out read six e q U J five for

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<v Speaker 1>something that rarely hears anything above a seven. Once you

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<v Speaker 1>hop into the out to the alpha part of the

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<v Speaker 1>alpha numeric code. That's pretty intense. Yeah, and then to

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<v Speaker 1>get it all the way to queue and you that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high. And did you want to explain to our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners exactly how they this notation works? Oh? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my saying alpha numeric doesn't make a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense, does it? Was wondering. So the way that

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<v Speaker 1>it works is that zero to one it just it

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<v Speaker 1>basically refers. It refers to the amplitude that it receives

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<v Speaker 1>in right, So nine is like pretty loud to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>but still kind of reasonable. And then it goes into

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<v Speaker 1>the alphabet, which is crazy, right, and all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to queue and you again, I mean that's crazy topping

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<v Speaker 1>out the scale. And I don't know what they do

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<v Speaker 1>if it gets up to z and then beyond Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they do. Ye panic because it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably an attack. Probably computer explodes like a star trek.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye absolutely. Um. So Jerry sees this print out, circles

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<v Speaker 1>it in red pen and remarks wow exclamation point in

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<v Speaker 1>the margin, thus dubbing this phenomena the Wow. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>how got its name. There's some significant things here that

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<v Speaker 1>I like to point out, firstly, the burst was the

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<v Speaker 1>full se seventy two seconds long, which means that it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably longer than seventy two seconds. Jerry, when the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth came back around, searched that same patch of sky

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<v Speaker 1>again on the next day and he heard nothing crickets,

0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.879
<v Speaker 1>which means that space crickets. Yeah, that the signal was

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere between seventy two seconds and twenty four hours long,

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<v Speaker 1>but not longer than that. Probably, Well do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about It's like, you know, even if you're a sophisticated

0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.359
<v Speaker 1>alien civilization, to create something that strong, because that's gonna

0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's going to carry so far and still

0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.359
<v Speaker 1>be strong at this end, we'll take a lot of power.

0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would imagine they they probably you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have enough damned and enough coal plants to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really be doing. Yeah, yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably true. They think it came kind of from Sagittarius.

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<v Speaker 1>That's about the constellation, the constellation of Sagittarius. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not specifically two Sagittary I a solar system within there

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<v Speaker 1>as close as they can tell. Again, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a rato radio signal. They think it probably came

0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.520
<v Speaker 1>from that area, but it kind of came from like

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<v Speaker 1>a black patch in between some solar systems in the

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Sagittarius constellation. And this is where they've done their their

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<v Speaker 1>math and their homework to figure out where the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>should have been pointing to make this this relatively accurate. Okay, Yeah,

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and I think there's there's probably more more accuracy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>side to side than up and down, because yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is like, it's not it's not it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like moving like a line across the sky. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like picking up a patch of the sky, but like

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<v Speaker 1>a slice, like a vertical slice, and so and so

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<v Speaker 1>left or right, you know pretty precisely where it came

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<v Speaker 1>from up and there's a lot more variation in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of hard to tell where it came from.

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<v Speaker 1>But the tone was a continuous mega hurts. Yeah, got louder,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably because just because of the rotation of the telescope

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<v Speaker 1>just and then finally reaches this peak when it's pointed

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<v Speaker 1>directly at that spot. Yeah, Okay, so you're under theories.

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I think we should Yeah, I kind of want to know,

0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:20.920
<v Speaker 1>but I think we should do it. Stories bore you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, my theory is that it was the

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<v Speaker 1>death Star vaporizing a planet. That's very plausible. Actually, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for sharing. Yeah, I want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>first theories are something of terrestrial origin. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of self righteous quote air quote rationalists or air

0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:48.639
<v Speaker 1>quote skeptics who say, well, obviously it was a reflected tone.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we just it would pick something, you know, reflected

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<v Speaker 1>something and it was from the Earth and dot's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Or was an airplane that flew over, or it was

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<v Speaker 1>something totally ball but doesn't really fit the pattern. None

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<v Speaker 1>of those fit the pattern. The problems with this, I

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<v Speaker 1>think are fairly obvious. The fact that it was the

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<v Speaker 1>continuous seventy two seconds. Who have to be a fixed point.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy could be something zipping by everything. Actually it

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<v Speaker 1>probably it couldn't have really been an airplane for the

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<v Speaker 1>same reasons. The other point that I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>is that MEGA hurts because the scientific community has come

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<v Speaker 1>together as a whole on an international scale. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure that everybody in the world kind of agrees with

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<v Speaker 1>this is a protected bandwidth, so people aren't allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast on Earth. I can't get on my CB until

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, I don't know how well

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<v Speaker 1>that's monitored. Of course, there's the possibility that some military

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>decided on all we're gonna do it. Oh, here's this

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 1>frequency that no, but he's using crazy or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty widely accepted within the scientific community

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<v Speaker 1>that it's unlikely that somebody on Earth was just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting at this frequency for seventy two seconds and it

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<v Speaker 1>randomly got reflected directly into the Yeah, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big coincidence, a really really big. The second theory

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<v Speaker 1>is user error. There are some grumbles. They're not super

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<v Speaker 1>super present, but there are some grumbles that Jerry didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the radio telescope focused quite right, maybe that maybe

0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it reflected on itself, or maybe he misinterpreted something. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there was a smaller frequency that kind of built on

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<v Speaker 1>itself and he just let everything happen. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>that theory, obviously. They The kind of proof that people

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<v Speaker 1>use for this is that the very large array, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>very large array. It's the real picture. Yeah, it's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's far more sensitive radio telescope array. Yeah, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't keep saying, oh, well, the very larger rate didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up. So obviously it was something terrestrial local.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't something from outer space. But how can it's

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<v Speaker 1>in New Mexico. Well, I know what it is, but

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<v Speaker 1>how can they say that the very large rate was

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<v Speaker 1>pointed at that precise spot. They can't at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't. They absolutely can't. That's yeah, that's kind of ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a very large rate. Did I mention that

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<v Speaker 1>it's very large? But I don't know very large. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very large. Yeah, So I think that just kind of

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>crumbles to pieces. Well, yeah, that's not I think it's

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>a bad theory. So the third very bad theory. The

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<v Speaker 1>third theory is something of extraterrestrial origins, kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of not intelligent extraterrestrial. You were talking about maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>a lighthouse speaking sort of effect, that it would be

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<v Speaker 1>something that was out broadcasting or reflecting and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a lighthouse like quasar effect sort of. Yeah, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's it is possible. It's just some sort of

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>natural origin for the whole thing. It is possible. I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like if it wasn't natural phenomenal, we would

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<v Speaker 1>have seen it probably again, particularly when we came back

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<v Speaker 1>around you know, or if the very large array focused

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>at that spot, you would kind of see something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think that if let's just presume that

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a quas a something throwing something out on that frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's reflecting off some giant asteroid outside of our

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<v Speaker 1>solar system, or off a plant or something, and those

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>things are still bodies in motion, well, then it stands

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<v Speaker 1>to reason that the essentially the beam that it's shooting

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<v Speaker 1>is going to continue to drift, as you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>in the lighthouse effect, and so it would drift past

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<v Speaker 1>where we were in our orbital track, so then we

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't pick it up. But of course when we come

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>back a year later to that same spot, everything's not

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<v Speaker 1>all in the exact same spot because nothing everything in

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>space doesn't move according to us, so it doesn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>can see where it would be potentially naturally occurring. That

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense to me. Yeah, that's that's fair. I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't thought of it that way. Occurrences. Yeah, I guess

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not fun though, that's not that's not a fun theory.

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>The fourth theory is something seriously extraterrestrial, like intelligent extraterrestrial.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I love this theory. Of course you do,

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>because I am. I love aliens. I think so some

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>intelligent life on the on a planet in the Sagittarius system. Yeah,

0:24:55.160 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>strong continuous radio wave, pulsive energy, and a bandwidth they

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>knew other intelligent life forces in the universe would understand. Uh.

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>It would require some seriously advanced civilization. It would have

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>required scientists estimate a two point to gigawatt transmitter. I

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the most powerful transmitter we have, you know,

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I really don't know either. How many giga watts was

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it in Back to the Future that that operated the

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>DeLorean and made it go in time. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was time. I just know that this is like,

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>sway far in our future. It's nothing that we have.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I think we're still in Like that's the level of

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>lightning that that kind of scale of power you talking about.

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Get my I have no idea science. I'm taking this

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>again from Back to the Future, but life. I don't know.

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>All I know is that's seriously powerful. Uh, and that's

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>something that we don't have developed. I think that some

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>of the implications of this theory could potentially be pretty haunted. Yeah,

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's the potential for it to be like, yeah,

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.679
<v Speaker 1>they're just saying, hey, what's going on, we're here, you

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>guys are there, let's talk. But that seems really unlikely,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it. Well, here's the the thing. If they're but

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>they really are intelligent beings, then the smartest thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do is laylow and not advertise your presence. I

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<v Speaker 1>personally think that, you know, the aliens, if we ever

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<v Speaker 1>meet them, it might be a wonderful experience, but more

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>likely they're gonna come here and murder us and take

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>our planet from us. And I'm serious about this, I'm

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not just joking. Uh, And so I think any intelligence

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>life form would actually not go out of its way

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to advertise his presence. That should include us too. I

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>don't think we should be sending out advertisements to hey, guys,

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>we're here. Here, we got a really cool planet with

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>lots of water, yeah, in a really cool atmosphere. You know,

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the kind of signals that we send out are are

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>really indicative of a race who's just trying to say, hey, right,

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, we send physical things out, we send radio

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>waves out, but they're like pulses and they're like meant

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to be messages and they're kind of weak, and they're

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty weak. There were definitely in our infancy of that, right,

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 1>they're also meant to be sent to somebody who could

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>get to us, like right now, no warp over to

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>us and eat us and take our planets all those things.

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>The thing that strikes me is the like almost urgency

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>that seems to go with a signal that this implies. Right,

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a s O S stress signal. Well, yeah,

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't an s O S. I mean, hello,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>if their intelligent aliens seeing us no more, and obviously

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 1>they would know, they would know our language and our

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>weird codes, you know, it actually might be like a

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>really really slow s OS. So in a few years

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 1>we'll get them, we'll get the next character. So it's like,

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>so we got the first and waiting for the other ones. Yeah,

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>these guys start to move with their own pace. Yeah.

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>The you know the thing is that ut so the

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>place that they think it came from in space is

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>uh two light years away, which means it took two

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>d and twenty years to get to us, which is

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of sad because there's nothing we could have done

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>about that, right Ever, I mean not that like we

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>could if it was an S O S and if

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we were the closest people to it, intelligent life that

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>was evolved to even receive the signal not even be

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 1>able to do anything about it. That's so sad, it is.

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of sad. I don't think it was a

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>distress signal because obviously any intelligent alien would would perceive

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the futility of the whole thing, because it's not going

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>to get anywhere where to somebody that can help you,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, anytime soon, it's gonna be years number

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>one and number two. It's not obviously distress signal. What

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it was is I think that it was

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>probably some alien race self destructing. They probably had a

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>major cataclysmic war, and that was just one artifact of

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>all the electromaticnetic radiation that was given off when they

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>were dropping nukes or you know, yeah, I mean so,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>so they were busially like nuking the hell out of

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>each other, and probably energy was going out at all

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>kinds of different frequencies on the electro magnetic spectrum, but

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>this particular radio telescope was only tuned to this one

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>particular frequency. So the this this moment in time this like,

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, a minute and a half, two minutes, whatever

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it was that this alien planet was being evaporated by

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>their their cataclysmic world war was recorded by the by

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the radio telescope because it was the only instrument that

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was looking in that particular spot in the sky at

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that time. So that's that's one theory. I have another

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>theory ready to hear It was cabra. Oh my god, yes,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>uh uh. Well, as you know, these guys are these

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>seaty scientists are They're they're kind of a they're kind

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>of a fun love and bunch and they and they

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>really love practical jokes. So another way you can replicate

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>this whole signal would be to actually walk out onto

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that field with a radio transmitter portable radio transmitter tune

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to mega hurts and just basically set it down, start

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>at volume zero, and just crank the amplitude up very

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>very very very slowly for thirty six seconds and then

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>crank it slowly back down and then make Jerry look

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like a boom and then yeah, well and that's the

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. It's like knowing, snicker snicker, that Jerry is

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>going to see this on the readout and go nuts over.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel that's unlikely. But you've done a perfect segue

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>into the next bit of theories, which are the crackpot theories.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, So there's two of these. One is you

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>can totally hear the English in there if you manipulate

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the hell out of There are a lot of videos

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube that are like, ah, you can hear the English.

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You can hear the messages is in these things if

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>all you do is alter it and slow it down,

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>then speed it up again, and mess with the frequencies

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and do this and do that and that, pick up

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>your phone and you know, dial somebody, and then yeah

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>on the other end. Yeah, So I would like to

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>make you guys listen to one right now. Did you

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>hear it? Did you hear the English? I heard that.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>It sound like the devil to me. I did hear

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>what could potentially be voices in radio static? I will

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>admit that ostensibly it says people of Washington Security of

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>October ten sixty one. This is the one. Yeah, that

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot more sense than a radio frequency, a

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>lot more sense. The other thing. You know, I'm gonna

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>have to I'm gonna chin up one of those and

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>put it on YouTube and it's just gonna be like

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube song or something like that. I don't know,

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>but something. The other thing that people kind of talk

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>about is that, oh, it's code. It's obviously code. I

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>saw one website where somebody said, oh, it's a sick code,

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>which is like a yeah, yeah, ask you sorry. So

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it like translates to numbers or letters or something that's

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>total bunk, and you know it's Russian code. It's the Russians,

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>because it's always the Russians, always. But that brings us

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>to the end of our theories. Actually, I did want

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to I wanted to bring up something that I found

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>very funny that I saw in the reading totally I think.

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys saw this. It was

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and ten. We shot a radio signal

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>back to gracefully gloss over that. Okay, I have I

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>have a serious no, no, no. They said it was

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a ten Twitter Twitter messages. Twitter messages they shot Twitter

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>messages about in the space. I heard about that, But

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>did they shoot them to that particular spot where using Yes,

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh I did not hear. Okay, So I'm going to

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.719
<v Speaker 1>go back to Joe's they're gonna come and eat our heads.

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they might we just put ourselves on the menu.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Either that or we just pointed ourselves out in the

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>galactic theater as the idiots, Backwood idiots, because how are

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you do in? I feel like it's also so insensitive, right,

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like they blasted us something I'm sure like really meaningful.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was, Let's just like let's go with that theory, right,

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>it was probably really meaningful. They put a lot of

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>work into making it, like getting it to us, not

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe not specifically us, but out into the We're like, cool,

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>let's tweet at them. Actually, you don't know that that

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>might have been their equivalent of Twitter. Two. That's true.

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:54.479
<v Speaker 1>It could have been I'm gonna go to the office

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>entire Facebook page and I'm just gonna send him a

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>message to be way faster. Yeah, totally. Great thing about

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it is it's like the thing about it sending tantous

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and Twitter messages is it would be incomprehensible. It's like,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not a decipherable message. That's my problem.

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>People abbreviate everything. Yeah, so they might they might just

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>conclude that it's just space noise and which is good

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're here. I mean, that's that's preferable. So, wow,

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.720
<v Speaker 1>what theories do you guys like? I'm like my theory.

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a practical joke. Yeah, practical joke.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I really like his theory. Practical joke. One. I like it,

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna go with that. I personally, I

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>do think that it was potentially a reflection not from

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>necessarily from Earth, but some kind of frequency reflection and

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe there was, like I think we talked about maybe

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of multiple signals hitting and so it

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the frequency is it what it really is? So I

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>think that to me seems the most plausible, especially since

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>it's never been reproduced. Well, I obviously alien theory, you do.

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.760
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0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.880
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0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.520
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0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:18.120
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0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.279
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0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.839
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0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.879
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0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the alien that sent out this signal, if you're the

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>guy that actually walked out into that food with that

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>radio transmitter, I want to hear from now. I just

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like Joe, he would have come forward by now. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? We do? Indeed? Well, we got an

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>email that I really liked and I wanted to read.

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh And the email is from Pat and she wrote, Hi,

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>longtime listener, first time emailer. I listened to you guys

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>as a clean of family practice clinic. I'm a janitor,

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>or rather, as I like to say, I'm a podcast

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>listener who happens to clean and she listens earning a

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 1>bit of coinage while learning. I think that's a good

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>way to think. Yeah. Uh. She was listening to The

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Hagley Woods Mystery recently and that prompted her to think

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 1>about a story that she'd read before, and she sent

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit of the story. And it's from

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Every Root and Anchor, Wisconsin's famous and historic Trees by

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Bruce R. Allison, and it's it was really it was

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>interesting because it's a story that is about like the

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Hagley Woods. There was somebody in a tree, in a tree,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>but it seems like it was because they couldn't sauce her.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>It seemed the way the story it was more for lumber. Yeah,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 1>and then find us corpse inside it and they can't

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>they can't cut through it, so it was it was

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>really kind of a coincidence. But they're the stories were

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>really close together, so it was it was kind of interesting. Yeah, Apparently,

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>this dying inside of trees, or dying and being stuffed

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>in the trees, it's not as uncommon as was. Unfortunately not.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that we live in Oregon now, Yeah,

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I know, I look at my neighborhood. I got a

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of big old trees. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, so

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Pat had there was a couple other bits of feedback

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in there, and I'm corresponding with Pat a bat so

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I I we totally appreciate the feedback, and I really

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>like because that was just a really cool story. Yeah,

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 1>totally kind of creepy though, Yeah, it's a mistake. It

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>just makes you think that every time you walk past

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a big old tree with a whole and it's probably

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a corpse in it, you know, stop it. Yeah, Okay,

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Pat, And before I forget, thanks Tom for the

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:32.439
<v Speaker 1>suggestion of the wow signal? Is this a listener suggestion? Yeah?

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that because I've been talking about it

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>for a little while. Yeah, but the listener suggestion always

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>seals the deal for me. Tom, Tom, are you the

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>guy with the radio transmitter on? Tom tell us you

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>can tell, you won't tell? Yeah, we'll keep your identity

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>of secret. Anyways, Thanks for solving a mystery with us,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, See everybody. Bye. By