Speaker 1: To on the move, going deep Speedways Pass.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 3: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 4: He's got my hands in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: What is up, Dolph Fans? And welcome to the Drive
Speaker 2: Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 5: And on today's show.
Speaker 2: We continue with the Draft preview series, two position groups. Today,
Speaker 2: Emery Hunt helps us break down the running back class.
Speaker 6: E J.
Speaker 2: Snyder helps us with the defensive tackles. All of that
Speaker 2: and a heck of a lot more from the Baptist
Speaker 2: Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is
Speaker 2: the Drive Time Podcasts. Kick it off today with my
Speaker 2: first interview talking running backs. Emery Hunt. You guys know
Speaker 2: who he is, The CBS Sports HQ's Emery Hunt the
Speaker 2: middle of his usual three draft season appearances here on
Speaker 2: Draft I will talk to him again for the udfas
Speaker 2: here in a month or so. Emery, how you doing man,
Speaker 2: and where is the energy level for you as we
Speaker 2: come down the home stretch of draft season.
Speaker 4: I'm doing fine, man.
Speaker 6: In the interview level is high because we're getting closer
Speaker 6: to the draft season, Draft Day right and you know,
Speaker 6: I released my Draft guide, so I'm out promoting that thing,
Speaker 6: and I'm all about now talking to football because I
Speaker 6: finally able where was able to finish, you know, covering
Speaker 6: these prospects, so now I'm able to talk about these prospects.
Speaker 5: It's funny.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's almost like a movie star or
Speaker 2: a comedian who has a new hour out. It's like
Speaker 2: they put on all that work and they grind all
Speaker 2: that time. But for the most part, those are the
Speaker 2: ones that that professional. They seem to hate the interview circuit,
Speaker 2: the talk shows, the podcast, all this stuff, But it
Speaker 2: sounds like for you, that's when the fun begins.
Speaker 4: Right right, because you got to talk about what you
Speaker 4: just watch.
Speaker 6: And now that now that you are comfortable talking about
Speaker 6: prospects and giving your take on it because you have
Speaker 6: a more well rounded take on the class on individuals, Yeah,
Speaker 6: let's get out here and talk about it.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to throw them under the bus, but
Speaker 2: I will say one of my good friends in the
Speaker 2: industry who actually cannot do the draft preview series so
Speaker 2: you can use you can put together the pieces there.
Speaker 5: And figure out who might be. But he was telling me,
Speaker 5: like Travis I'm tired, man.
Speaker 4: I'm so tired.
Speaker 2: This is an exhausting process, and so that's why it's
Speaker 2: so valuable for someone like me to rely on someone
Speaker 2: like you and the rest of the community. We have
Speaker 2: doing this for us here to break down these position
Speaker 2: groups and give us some more widening perspectives on what
Speaker 2: this draft class looks like. Let's go ahead and start here,
Speaker 2: because I want to start with the actual Dolphins current
Speaker 2: running backs.
Speaker 5: And I think we talked about this in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: What better time for a refresher than right now, because
Speaker 2: Miami had two rookie backs last year that were completely
Speaker 2: different in terms of their play style.
Speaker 5: Both productive. One played some one played a little bit.
Speaker 2: Wanted to get your thoughts on the first season of
Speaker 2: Devon a Chan and Chris Brooks and where you see
Speaker 2: their games going. And you're number two here for Mike
Speaker 2: McDaniel on the Dolphins offense.
Speaker 6: I'm excited about a Chan because again, I love speed,
Speaker 6: and he has the ability to hit the home run
Speaker 6: from anywhere on the field and we saw that at times.
Speaker 4: You know, you just want him to stay healthy.
Speaker 6: I know injuries are a freak occurrence, so you can't
Speaker 6: predict that but if he's out there, I expect him
Speaker 6: this year to have even more of a role in
Speaker 6: that game. I know we talked in India about the
Speaker 6: quietest one hundred yard game and the fastest one hundred
Speaker 6: yard game. So with someone like that, I'm excited for
Speaker 6: him now that he's going to have a year of
Speaker 6: pro strength and conditioning, doesn't have to do all the
Speaker 6: travel circuit that he did during the draft process. And
Speaker 6: for Brooks, we know about what he was able to
Speaker 6: do at the Hula Bowl last year. Physical back end
Speaker 6: again going into year two with a lot of these guys,
Speaker 6: if he could stay healthy, he could be that pay
Speaker 6: center for the run game because of what he brings
Speaker 6: to his table from a physicality standpoint. So you expect
Speaker 6: these guys in year two much calmer offseason as opposed
Speaker 6: to the draft cycle. So I expect those guys to
Speaker 6: hit the ground running, both figuratively and literally.
Speaker 2: Andy, I'm impressed, man, because I have a buddy that
Speaker 2: a long time listener of the podcast, met up with
Speaker 2: a few times one of the back in Seattle, and
Speaker 2: he's always like telling me about segments that he likes
Speaker 2: in the podcast, Like I recorded that two days ago,
Speaker 2: I forgot what it is?
Speaker 5: Can you riind me?
Speaker 2: You just pulled back a segment from a month and
Speaker 2: a half ago that I've forgotten about and you remembered it yourself.
Speaker 5: So you are impressive of my friend. As always.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and talk about this draft class though,
Speaker 2: because and you know the reason I bring up eight
Speaker 2: Chan and Brooks because both those guys, you know, I
Speaker 2: think are gonna have, you know, good roles for the
Speaker 2: Dolphins this year. But I just can't imagine pick twenty
Speaker 2: one being a running back Dolphins or otherwise. I mean,
Speaker 2: the room is pretty good right now, and I'm not
Speaker 2: sure the draft class has a player at that spot.
Speaker 5: But that's why I wanted to get you on.
Speaker 2: I'm curious who is your top back and where do
Speaker 2: you think he comes off the board. When does the
Speaker 2: running back run begin in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: I think it begins on date two. My number one
Speaker 6: back is Braylan Nollan out of Wisconsin. The reason why
Speaker 6: I had him number one, outside of him being super talented,
Speaker 6: it's the fact that he has youth on his side.
Speaker 4: He's super young.
Speaker 6: He started college at what's seventeen years old, so and
Speaker 6: he was total net a big ten at that age,
Speaker 6: and so when you think about him, combining his foot
Speaker 6: work his physicality, I just like the.
Speaker 4: Way he runs the ball.
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be a solid pro, and I
Speaker 6: feel like that's gonna be one of the first backs.
Speaker 6: I know people love Jonathan Brooks. Not gonna get an
Speaker 6: argument for me in that regard, But I do feel
Speaker 6: like we'll see the run on running backs go maybe
Speaker 6: mid second round into the third round.
Speaker 2: So it kind of sounds like fifty five for miami'd
Speaker 2: be a little bit two like, because I know the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are at fifty six and everyone's kind of got
Speaker 2: their first running back pencil in there. But it sounds
Speaker 2: like fifty five might be a little bit too rich.
Speaker 2: Is there a spot maybe where you think a run begins?
Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking, because the Dolphins could stand to.
Speaker 5: Use more mid round draft capital.
Speaker 2: They go from pick fifty five and then not again
Speaker 2: till one fifty eight if they wind up back in
Speaker 2: that third or fourth round. You know, I like, there's
Speaker 2: a great picture of Mike McDaniel with Xavier Worthy at
Speaker 2: the Texas Pro Day, and it's like, yeah, he probably
Speaker 2: likes that guy. Because the four to two to one speed, right,
Speaker 2: you can. You can put that together there. But I'm
Speaker 2: curious if there's a back in that third or fourth
Speaker 2: round that you might like as a potential option.
Speaker 5: Should Miami acquire another midground drafted.
Speaker 6: Listen, and with the way the kickoff return rules have
Speaker 6: chan you know, so you add that element to it.
Speaker 6: And we're talking about third round because even though I
Speaker 6: think this guy may be gone, he would be perfect
Speaker 6: because he kind of gives you the best of both worlds.
Speaker 6: He's big, explosive, he's you know, physical, and that's Isaac
Speaker 6: Garrindau out of Louisville four to three explosive, has kickoff
Speaker 6: return in his background at the University of Wisconsin and
Speaker 6: reminds me a lot of Michael Turner, you know, a big,
Speaker 6: big back that has explosive speed. Also, if we're sticking
Speaker 6: with the theme of the Dolphins backfield and speed, how
Speaker 6: about Jaydon Shirton out of Mama. You know, here's someone
Speaker 6: five seven one ninety and I truly believe someone like
Speaker 6: Heaton Mitchell helped him out last year because people looked
Speaker 6: at Mitchell's size and that's probably why he didn't go
Speaker 6: in any of the rounds right, he went undrafted, but
Speaker 6: you couldn't ignore his explosive playmaking ability and his speed.
Speaker 6: And he gets out there for Baltimore in the preseason
Speaker 6: and it didn't take long for people to realize, Yo,
Speaker 6: this dude got the juice.
Speaker 4: Sherton has that juice.
Speaker 6: Sherdon is someone that I've watched over eleven games in
Speaker 6: his three year career at Mamath, and he is someone
Speaker 6: that can, you know, fit with the Dolphins want to
Speaker 6: do running the football, fit what they do athletically because
Speaker 6: he has game breaking speed. And when you're thinking about
Speaker 6: the new kickoff returnal rule, that's a guy that can
Speaker 6: probably help you out as a former running back back
Speaker 6: there or as a running back back there, you know,
Speaker 6: and you're trying to create different blocking schemes and trying
Speaker 6: to pop up in the lane.
Speaker 4: You want someone that's used to setting.
Speaker 6: Up his blockers, that's used to kind of being patient
Speaker 6: and exploding, exploding through a hole and exploiting a hole.
Speaker 4: Sherton would be a perfect guy in that regard.
Speaker 5: Great stuff there.
Speaker 2: I have three follow ups off of that, and the
Speaker 2: first one is not even a question. It's just I
Speaker 2: literally wrote down Isaac Grendo. Ask Emery where he thinks
Speaker 2: that he goes, because I'm again four three to one speed, right, Like,
Speaker 2: if you can run.
Speaker 5: Fast, you might have a role in this offense.
Speaker 2: And I think about, you know, watching him just hit
Speaker 2: those second level like a couple of broken tackles on
Speaker 2: safeties and all of a sudden it's a long touchdown.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned you think third round for Grenda, how
Speaker 2: do you think that his skill set would translate to
Speaker 2: the Dolphins wide zone primary running offense.
Speaker 4: Listen, here's the thing.
Speaker 6: If you are a former kickoff returner, you used to
Speaker 6: be basically running outside zone, right, So you know, you
Speaker 6: that's the most ideal fit someone that has experience in
Speaker 6: returning to kicks. I mean, look at their depth, look
Speaker 6: at their backfield, Moster return kicks, h Chan return kicks,
Speaker 6: Wilson return So it's like, you know, this is har
Speaker 6: for the course.
Speaker 4: So he fits in perfectly in my opinion.
Speaker 2: The last follow up I had for you here was
Speaker 2: regarding you know, you mentioned Keaton Mitchell and like, gosh,
Speaker 2: what a fun player he was. It suck when he
Speaker 2: went down last year with that injury, But I'm curious
Speaker 2: why it seems like this position more than others.
Speaker 5: And I don't have numbers behind this. This is just
Speaker 5: kind of my feeling.
Speaker 2: It seems like running back, more than any other spot,
Speaker 2: can get Day three guys or even udfas that come
Speaker 2: in and don't just contribute, but turn into like star
Speaker 2: pieces on the off. Keith Mitchell's a great example of that.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is at this position?
Speaker 4: It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speaker 6: You know, you keep telling yourself that, don't take running
Speaker 6: backs in the first round.
Speaker 4: You can find them anywhere.
Speaker 6: So you don't take running backs in the first round,
Speaker 6: and you get guys they probably should have gone around
Speaker 6: earlier in whatever round you take them. And he's like,
Speaker 6: oh see, look we got a guy that was undrafted.
Speaker 6: He you get running backs anywhere. Well, you've told yourself
Speaker 6: all throughout the years, you know that guy probably should
Speaker 6: have been a second round pick. And you know, especially
Speaker 6: now with the it's funny because everyone speaks in terms
Speaker 6: of contracts, right, Well, you know, you never want to
Speaker 6: pay a running back on you know, a second contract,
Speaker 6: and you know, is anybody getting kept nowadays, Like we
Speaker 6: just saw quarterbacks get moved on their first contract.
Speaker 4: Running back everybody's getting moved.
Speaker 6: So if you have a guy that's good for three years,
Speaker 6: kudos to you.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's a.
Speaker 6: Great thing because we are going to the days where
Speaker 6: you saying, Okay, this guy's gonna be our running back
Speaker 6: for the next decade, but this quarterback is going to
Speaker 6: be our next quarterback for the next fifteen years. Those
Speaker 6: days are gone. People are getting you know, people, you
Speaker 6: barely get three years with a team even if you're good.
Speaker 6: So you know, people just told themselves over time that
Speaker 6: running back position don't matter until they knee deep in
Speaker 6: the playoffs. And he's like, man, you can't run the ball.
Speaker 6: Well you think you just you think that. So that's
Speaker 6: where I feel my stance is on that position.
Speaker 3: A little bit of.
Speaker 5: Salt in there.
Speaker 2: I love that from you former running back himself giving
Speaker 2: us some information here on the podcast. And you know,
Speaker 2: I look at like it's funny how quick perception can change,
Speaker 2: because you know, when a chan comes off the board
Speaker 2: as a third round draft pick, it's like that that's
Speaker 2: a third round rookie doesn't really have much expectations going
Speaker 2: into at least among the you know, most of the
Speaker 2: casual NFL fan base, and then now a year later,
Speaker 2: with just one hundred carries later, it's like he looks
Speaker 2: like a star talent.
Speaker 5: So it's funny how quickly that can change.
Speaker 2: And speaking of that third day in late round draft picks,
Speaker 2: last question for you here Emory Hunt, CBS Sports HQ
Speaker 2: Day three gems. I've got no one better in the
Speaker 2: world I go to for Day three gems and Emory
Speaker 2: Hunt at the running back position in particular, what you
Speaker 2: got from a big dog, Well.
Speaker 4: You know, he's a name that's popular.
Speaker 6: Will Shipley I feel like fits Miami in his versatility,
Speaker 6: and he also has kickoff return capability, So that's one
Speaker 6: guy to keep.
Speaker 4: An eye on jailing right.
Speaker 6: I know people love him because of his speed, but
Speaker 6: I feel like Miami would be another place that could
Speaker 6: use him because of his one cut downhill nature. You
Speaker 6: also want someone his teammate Jabari Small could be another one.
Speaker 4: So there's a bunch of these type guys.
Speaker 6: But if you want a deep cut, someone that no
Speaker 6: one is talking about. He's a Canadian cat, so we
Speaker 6: may see him get drafted in the CFL as well.
Speaker 6: At running back. Michael Herzog of Hillsdale College Division two program.
Speaker 6: He's like a Division two version of Will Shipley. He
Speaker 6: has fantastic footwar agility, great kickoff returner average eighteen point seven.
Speaker 6: You allso returning his career, you know, it's a GMAC
Speaker 6: Player of the Year, two time first team All Conference guy.
Speaker 6: And I watched him down at the College Grown Showcase,
Speaker 6: and you know, so that's going from Division two and
Speaker 6: watching watching him against FCS and FBS competition. More than
Speaker 6: held his zone all week long. Very good receiver that
Speaker 6: can beat you down the field. So he's someone that again,
Speaker 6: he's a he's a Canadian born player, so he's eligible
Speaker 6: to be drafted in the CFL. Had a really good
Speaker 6: CFL combined a couple of weeks ago. But he's someone
Speaker 6: that if he's on the NFL roster as an undrafted
Speaker 6: freezing it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: Hillsdale College pool, it's always impressive, can you So? One
Speaker 2: thing I'm trying to do a better job of myself
Speaker 2: is as mentioned in the names of or the colleges
Speaker 2: of these players, the two teammates, what school were they
Speaker 2: part of?
Speaker 4: Tennessee?
Speaker 5: Tennessee?
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Dot, I just had to clarify that
Speaker 2: because you know he brought awesome names. Sometimes you don't
Speaker 2: remember college they went to, and then the fans like, hey,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about back there? It's like I forgot,
Speaker 2: because like I mentioned, I forget my own podcast half
Speaker 2: the time.
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Speaker 2: what is up, buddy?
Speaker 3: It is that time of year.
Speaker 1: We are all on full sprint, caffeinated, no sleep, just
Speaker 1: welging towards the draft at this point.
Speaker 3: That's all there is to it.
Speaker 5: It comes faster every single year.
Speaker 2: I feel like, maybe that's having children, maybe that's you know,
Speaker 2: just being busier as you get older in life. But
Speaker 2: I feel like, man, this year's class kind of snuck
Speaker 2: up on us here and here we roll into I
Speaker 2: don't even know what position group number of thiss is.
Speaker 2: We are doing defensive tackles with you here, but maybe
Speaker 2: five or six, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I've done a lot of these last couple of days.
Speaker 5: Let's go ahead and get into it.
Speaker 2: And I had Trevor Sikkima on the show on Friday,
Speaker 2: who I know did your podcast as well, to talk
Speaker 2: about the edge group. And you know, I'm looking at
Speaker 2: this Dolphins defense and Anthony Weaver and so many different
Speaker 2: groups that have these crossover type of positions and defensive tackle,
Speaker 2: defensive end kind of falls in that mold.
Speaker 5: Safety and cornerback kind of falls in that mold.
Speaker 2: Well, like they ran up in Baltimore and they always
Speaker 2: had on their D line in Baltimore Underweaver their true
Speaker 2: nose tackle. Right, But then like a bunch of these
Speaker 2: super versable guys who can play all over the front.
Speaker 2: So I guess first to kind of make this Dolphins
Speaker 2: focused originally, here, I want to ask you about the
Speaker 2: post Christian Wilkins era, the value of Zach Sealer, the
Speaker 2: additions of tier Tart, Binito Jones, Nebel Gallimore, Jonathan Harris
Speaker 2: retaining to Sean hann who had a good year last year.
Speaker 2: I'm curious what you think of the approach there of
Speaker 2: signing all these veteran, versatile guys to pair with someone
Speaker 2: as good as Zach Seeler. Do you see a Raven's
Speaker 2: type of approach here up front for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Seems like that's what they're going for, and again, the
Speaker 1: fit is still a thing. Like on paper, that approach
Speaker 1: matches up with the way they worked in Baltimore, and
Speaker 1: I like a lot of those guys, like I think
Speaker 1: Tier Tart if he can, if he can rebound from
Speaker 1: his year last year, He's an incredibly talented guy that
Speaker 1: flew under the radar for years.
Speaker 3: Jones I like coming out. He's I think a little
Speaker 3: bit more limited, but really useful in his role.
Speaker 1: Gallimore was a guy who was super high on in
Speaker 1: the draft, had some up and down years in Dallas.
Speaker 1: But again, I think if he fits in Weavers system,
Speaker 1: that Baltimore system, that versatile system, he could be a
Speaker 1: guy like Tart that has a lot more impact than
Speaker 1: his contract would indicate.
Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way. So I like the approach.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're done, but it certainly feels like
Speaker 1: they are setting up to say, these are the chess
Speaker 1: pieces we need to do the things we want to
Speaker 1: do on defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of guys and we're going to
Speaker 2: get into it here in just one second that I
Speaker 2: think make a lot of sense at pick twenty one
Speaker 2: in this position group if they are on the board,
Speaker 2: and of course if the ball the board falls a
Speaker 2: certain way, you never know how it's going to happen
Speaker 2: until DRAFTA actually gets here. But you mentioned Benito and
Speaker 2: Tierra Tart there, and I kind of want to circle
Speaker 2: back and just follo up on those two guys, because
Speaker 2: you know, they had Michael Pierce in Baltimore, and they
Speaker 2: had previously Brandon Williams.
Speaker 5: And the Dolphins don't have the three hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: pound guy.
Speaker 2: Most guys, most teams don't have those guys, especially that good.
Speaker 5: Of players at that size.
Speaker 2: But I'm curious because Benito is like that true nose, right,
Speaker 2: squatty body three thirty five, six foot one, can get
Speaker 2: under your pads and play the run that way. And
Speaker 2: then like tir Tart, you know he played a lot
Speaker 2: of zero and one in Tennessee.
Speaker 5: You mentioned the kind.
Speaker 2: Of the revert year last year after a great twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two season, but he does that at like three
Speaker 2: to zho five. I'm kind of curious, Like I guess
Speaker 2: the question is how important is that mass at that
Speaker 2: nose tackle position, because I'm watching tr Tart's tape and
Speaker 2: it does doesn't seem to like hold him back at all.
Speaker 5: The fact that he's only three hundred and five.
Speaker 1: Pounds weight is misleading in a lot of positions. It
Speaker 1: certainly can be in defensive line.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, the greatest Aaron Donald said that he played
Speaker 1: one of his best seasons ever at two.
Speaker 3: Sixty five, which is bonkers. Let's just put that out there.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he really probably felt comfortable saying
Speaker 1: that until he retired, because it's just such a trope. Right,
Speaker 1: You've got to be heavy in the pants to play
Speaker 1: that position, and we know that's not true.
Speaker 3: If guys play with great leverage.
Speaker 1: You talked about Benito being a little bit shorter, that
Speaker 1: can actually be a benefit. You can get down underneath guys,
Speaker 1: and if you understand leverage we always talk about wrestlers
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, you can play with leverage and
Speaker 1: hold your spot without being three point fifty. So I
Speaker 1: think it's good to have those guys, but it is
Speaker 1: also okay to have other players who don't necessarily crack
Speaker 1: the three ten, three twenty mark, who play with leverage,
Speaker 1: who plays strong, who have long levers and understand how
Speaker 1: to use them, and our position verstable. I really think
Speaker 1: Tart is going to play more out towards a you know,
Speaker 1: a traditional sort of three four, you can call it
Speaker 1: a five tech a four. I like he has that
Speaker 1: ability and versatility. He can set the edge. We know that,
Speaker 1: and that's a very useful position in that Ravens defense.
Speaker 1: It's really the reverse of pin and pull on offense, right.
Speaker 1: If you're talking about pin and pull offensive runs. If
Speaker 1: you're the defense, you are pinning and pulling an edge
Speaker 1: and rotating the defense around it. And we know Tar
Speaker 1: can do that. So he's a valuable guy. The weight
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you nailed it, man.
Speaker 2: I think Tart is to me, he stands out among
Speaker 2: that crop of free agents. I think that he's got
Speaker 2: a lot of good football in him and excited to
Speaker 2: see what he can do here, especially next to a
Speaker 2: guy like Zach Steeler who man Steelers pick stunts and
Speaker 2: what that does for spacing for not just the defensive
Speaker 2: tackle next to him, with the linebackers, and you talk
Speaker 2: about blitzing linebackers, my god, Jordan Brooks and David Long
Speaker 2: and because they getting better than that.
Speaker 5: I'm just very excited about what this might look like.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, change can be difficult in
Speaker 2: the NFL, but sometimes as a content creator, it's fun
Speaker 2: to be able to kind of analyze what that change
Speaker 2: might look like. I think for the Dolphins this year
Speaker 2: on defense, you could see a good amount of change
Speaker 2: in terms of the scheme and how things are done
Speaker 2: and your pressure packages and all that stuff. So a
Speaker 2: big part of that is going to be what happens
Speaker 2: at the defensive tackle position going forward. Because you mentioned
Speaker 2: that they could be maybe not done there. They have
Speaker 2: done a good job of filling out the spots on
Speaker 2: the roster just to give themselves sheer numbers and allow
Speaker 2: them to go BPA, which I think every team wants
Speaker 2: to accomplish. And so I'll start there at pick twenty one.
Speaker 2: And I've had this debate with my good buddy Kyle Krabs,
Speaker 2: who I always say does the second best Dolphins podcast
Speaker 2: out there. Love you, Kyle, but we've had this debate
Speaker 2: for a couple of months now, Johnny Newton or Byron Murphy,
Speaker 2: is that you're one and two?
Speaker 3: Who goes where?
Speaker 2: And who do you think would be a better fit
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins if they're both on the board for
Speaker 2: either EJ the old three for one question.
Speaker 3: There for you, I love the three for one.
Speaker 1: That's great, sufficient and we need efficiency during draft season.
Speaker 1: Certainly Murphy and Newton arm I one and two. They're
Speaker 1: the top tier of dts in this draft.
Speaker 3: For me, where they go. Murphy's probably off the board first.
Speaker 1: The league seems a little bit higher on him, mostly
Speaker 1: because of ceiling and potential. Not that he's not a
Speaker 1: good or very good player now he is, but I
Speaker 1: think the league looks at him and believes he has
Speaker 1: a little bit more growth left in him than Johnny Newton,
Speaker 1: and that is candy for draft evaluators. They want potential,
Speaker 1: they want to be able to develop, they want the
Speaker 1: highest possible ceiling, especially with picks in the top twenty.
Speaker 1: So I think Murphy probably goes off the board first
Speaker 1: because of that. The absolute soonest he could go off
Speaker 1: the board is to a team that I love, Chicago
Speaker 1: at nine. I don't necessarily love that scenario, not because
Speaker 1: I don't love Murphy, but it's a bit of a
Speaker 1: nightmare scenario where all the offensive players they really want
Speaker 1: are off the board. They don't really have a crying
Speaker 1: need for offensive tackle. There'll certainly be some great ones available,
Speaker 1: and say nobody wants to trade up, everybody just sits
Speaker 1: on their cards.
Speaker 3: You got to pick somebody. The Bears do need a
Speaker 3: three tech.
Speaker 4: It's not a.
Speaker 1: Great value slot, good match potentially from skills, but it
Speaker 1: would feel like a little bit of a letdown at
Speaker 1: pick nine for me. You know, if not, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be in consideration. That's Murphy down the board. Cincinnati at
Speaker 1: eighteen and the Rams at nineteen are absolutely going to
Speaker 1: be looking to take a defensive tackle, and if he's
Speaker 1: still there, I think they'll count their blessings and run
Speaker 1: that pick in. If not, you know, we'll see Newton
Speaker 1: could go first. Again, it's eye of beholder. He is
Speaker 1: a very good player. He is extremely well regarded a
Speaker 1: little more polished at this point than Murphy. But again
Speaker 1: some people might summarize closer to his ceiling, he's probably
Speaker 1: going to drop to the twenties. If Murphy is the
Speaker 1: first pick because I don't see two defensive tackles in
Speaker 1: this draft going in the top twenty. So Newton could
Speaker 1: be there at twenty one for the Dolphins. If he
Speaker 1: is sad, he should be off the board no later
Speaker 1: than twenty seven because that gauntlet of Minnesota, Dallas, Green
Speaker 1: Bay in Arizona. He's not getting through those four Like
Speaker 1: even if Murphy's gone or vice versa, if there is
Speaker 1: a good defensive tackle for that run of four teams,
Speaker 1: they're going to pick the next one because it will
Speaker 1: be value at that point in the draft. So both
Speaker 1: these guys are going to be off the board probably
Speaker 1: before thirty. It's a question of you know which one
Speaker 1: goes off. In terms of the Dolphins, I especially with
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver coming over, I would think they might like
Speaker 1: Murphy a little bit more as a really explosive first step.
Speaker 1: Newton's a great penetrator. They're very similar players. Both of
Speaker 1: them impact game wreckers, slashing three type tacks. I think
Speaker 1: Murphy might give you a little bit more against the run.
Speaker 1: Newton's good against the run. I think m Murphy could
Speaker 1: be better, And I think from Anthony Weavers perspective, he
Speaker 1: might say, hey, this is the guy I want to
Speaker 1: work with because I think there's some things there to
Speaker 1: shape and he's used to doing that.
Speaker 2: In Baltimore Murphy's tape the Alabama game and talk about
Speaker 2: undersized zero techniques, right, Like, I know, three hundred pounds
Speaker 2: isn't real undersided, Like you just did a good job
Speaker 2: describing why it's not. But my god, man, like the
Speaker 2: way he handled those guys. That's Alabama and he just
Speaker 2: handled him all day long with his strength and his
Speaker 2: quickness and everything that he brings the table.
Speaker 5: So you can't go wrong there.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned the Bengals and Rams because like
Speaker 2: Dolphins fan will say, like Christian Wilkins has gone, we
Speaker 2: have to find a replacement there. It's like they lost
Speaker 2: DJ Reader and Aaron Donald too, so like we are
Speaker 2: not the only ones that have lost D tackles and
Speaker 2: what has become one of the most talent rich positions I.
Speaker 5: Think in the National Football League right now.
Speaker 2: With that, you know, Christian wilkins entire class was loaded
Speaker 2: with D tackles there, So it sounds like you've kind
Speaker 2: of are answer my next question for you. Nobody else
Speaker 2: detackle in the first round, right.
Speaker 3: Braden Fisk from FSU could sneak in. But he's not
Speaker 3: a lock. I think he's just outside.
Speaker 1: He is an early, early, early day to guy. I'm
Speaker 1: talking like off the board by pick forty, so you know,
Speaker 1: top eight picks of the second round. But if there's
Speaker 1: a team and again the position they had as their
Speaker 1: first choice is picked over, picked out, and Braden Fisk
Speaker 1: is there and they love him, you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the first round. He is one of those
Speaker 1: guys that could slip in and the you know in
Speaker 1: the late twenties, early thirties, and I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised at all. Again, very disruptive player, a little bit
Speaker 1: more undersized than the other two. Certainly not quite as long,
Speaker 1: but just so fierce and so quick on that Florida
Speaker 1: State defensive line.
Speaker 2: I think that the Dolphins would be wise and every
Speaker 2: team does this obviously, but like the due diligence to understand,
Speaker 2: you know, what the board could look like, because when
Speaker 2: I do the mock draft scenario just for the fun
Speaker 2: of it and trying to figure out what it might
Speaker 2: play out to be, Like, there's a lot of times
Speaker 2: I go through the draft board it's like, maybe there's
Speaker 2: a good trade down spot here reminded he could accumulate
Speaker 2: more picks because I really want to get back into
Speaker 2: that third fourth round personally, just because I love that
Speaker 2: portion of this year's draft in particular, and it seems like,
Speaker 2: you know, having those types of guys in your friend
Speaker 2: of mind, Like even in the early second part of
Speaker 2: the part of second the early part of round two,
Speaker 2: you might be like, Okay, we can move back in
Speaker 2: the second round, get an initial third round pick, and
Speaker 2: scoop up a guy that we thought maybe would have
Speaker 2: been a pick at twenty one.
Speaker 5: So I think there's lots of options there for the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: But if they don't do that and they just chill
Speaker 2: on defensive tackle until pick fifty five in the second round,
Speaker 2: who do you like in that spot. The one guy
Speaker 2: that comes to my mind is the former or the
Speaker 2: offspring I should say, a former Carolina Panther who was
Speaker 2: pretty good defensive tackle as well.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely talk about him. We already talked about Fisk.
Speaker 1: If he's there, you run that pick in. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's lasting to fifty five. Again, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's probably lasting through forty, but if he did, that
Speaker 1: would be a boon and a blessing for Miami, if
Speaker 1: not in terms of guys that are more likely to
Speaker 1: be there. Ruc of Roro Row from Clemson is is
Speaker 1: a really versatile piece. I could see them liking more
Speaker 1: of a four eyed a six tech type, but really
Speaker 1: athletic and Weaver can work with that. He's got good size.
Speaker 1: He can play again multiple spots. He could play the
Speaker 1: heavy end of that front if you really want him to,
Speaker 1: you could slid him outside. He could do a little
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Jones impersonation, Chris Jones light on the end,
Speaker 1: still got that quickness against overwhelming, Maybe a tight end
Speaker 1: just for fun, because we know the Baltimore defensive scheme
Speaker 1: loves its mismatches. So he's a guy that I would target.
Speaker 1: And then the guy you were talking about is Chris
Speaker 1: Jenkins from Michigan. I'm a touch lower on him. I
Speaker 1: could see them taking him on traits alone. He is
Speaker 1: an athletic monster at this point in his career. He
Speaker 1: is an elite run stopper, and I don't fifty five
Speaker 1: feels a little bit early to me to get an
Speaker 1: elite run stopper. Now, the folks that argue for that
Speaker 1: selection will say again, he's got untapped potential as a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, and a guy like Weaver could bring that
Speaker 1: out of him. If they see that, sure they'll go
Speaker 1: for Jenkins if he's still on the board. The reason
Speaker 1: I said I was a touch lower on him is
Speaker 1: as a player right now, he's great at stopping the run,
Speaker 1: even at his sort of undersized frame, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: have that real pass rush flash, which is why we're
Speaker 1: still talking about it being on the board in the fifties.
Speaker 2: That's why I love this year's class so much, and
Speaker 2: the fact that the Dolphins are picking a couple times
Speaker 2: high this year. It's been a while, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: I love cashing in Tyreek Hill and Bradley Chubb and
Speaker 2: you know, all these players we've been able to acquire
Speaker 2: with the high draft cap that we've used Dalen Ramsey
Speaker 2: for instance. But it is fun to have picks high
Speaker 2: on draft night, and I'm excited to look at what
Speaker 2: happens at pick twenty one and fifty five. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and take our last break of the show right there.
Speaker 2: Come back on the other side, talk about EJ. Sleepers
Speaker 2: here for defensive tackles in the twenty twenty four Draft
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Speaker 2: Bootleg Football breaking down this year's defensive tackle class for
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four NFL Draft and the EJ My
Speaker 2: normal audience is sick of hearing this because I say
Speaker 2: it on just about every I feel like every podcast
Speaker 2: has that, right, like they have their tropes that they
Speaker 2: go back to time and time again.
Speaker 5: Do you and Brett have one that maybe comes up
Speaker 5: a lot? I feel like you would.
Speaker 3: We have a lot.
Speaker 1: And I was just smiling on my end listening to
Speaker 1: you say our audience is sick of hearing this, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, what are bootleggers hearing? And I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are some things that we have hit many times,
Speaker 1: whether it's players we really like that we've seen or interviewed,
Speaker 1: or you know, there are certain players that just leave
Speaker 1: a funny taste in our mouth and they tend to
Speaker 1: come up and look, fans love the disagreements.
Speaker 3: We don't have that many, so I think they like
Speaker 3: them even more.
Speaker 1: But there's definitely things at this point in draft season
Speaker 1: that they've heard multiple times that they're probably rolling your
Speaker 1: eyes when it comes across.
Speaker 5: I remember Ryan Tannehill's press conferences.
Speaker 2: He used to say each and every day so many times,
Speaker 2: and each and every day phrase is like if it's
Speaker 2: each or every they're both the same thing.
Speaker 5: So I know this each and every because you already
Speaker 5: mentioned that.
Speaker 2: And so my tagline for my old Lockdown Dolphins podcast
Speaker 2: used to be like your podcast each and every day
Speaker 2: here on the Blockdown podcast network.
Speaker 5: But I digress. What I have been saying in this draft.
Speaker 2: Cycle on every single episode is almost a copy and
Speaker 2: paste question, like we have a pick at fifty five
Speaker 2: and then a bit of a break unless we trade
Speaker 2: up for more picks until one fifty eight, our next
Speaker 2: pick in the fifth round. So let's say that hypothetically
Speaker 2: that Miami does split the weight between those two picks
Speaker 2: you mentioned Chrishankins. They're a little bit as a guy
Speaker 2: that you might see in that realm. But between pick
Speaker 2: fifty five pick one fifty eight, if Miami were to
Speaker 2: make a move down or up the draft board and
Speaker 2: get themselves back into that third and fourth round range,
Speaker 2: any defensive tackles you like in that spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're talking about third and fourth round, we're
Speaker 1: talking about pick sixty five to one thirty five. Lots
Speaker 1: of talent in there in this draft. In the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle class. We'll start with the stumps up front. We
Speaker 1: talked about Benito Jones at the top. If you want
Speaker 1: another guy like him, then I think is even better.
Speaker 1: Guy like Tovandre Sweat out of Texas is really fun.
Speaker 1: Big guy weighs in three because he didn't famously didn't
Speaker 1: weigh in at the Senior Bowl, so it probably about
Speaker 1: three eighty at that point, maybe three sixty, who knows,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be right near the top of that
Speaker 1: range and then down near the end of that range. Again,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for an absolute tree stump in the
Speaker 1: middle of a guy named Christian Boyd from Northern Iowa
Speaker 1: who he saw at the Shrine Bowl as a real
Speaker 1: value player, and I think Weaver would have a blast
Speaker 1: with him because he does have penetration ability, but he
Speaker 1: is incredibly strong, put up forty something reps on the bench.
Speaker 4: At his pro DA.
Speaker 1: Just an absolute tank of a human. Really nice guy too.
Speaker 1: For the three type techs, three tech types. I should
Speaker 1: say the more slashing folks. This is a tremendous sweet
Speaker 1: spot in the draft between sixty five, one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty five, right near the top.
Speaker 3: Brandon dor Lis from Oregon.
Speaker 1: He's a guy if you miss out on a roller
Speaker 1: Row has a lot of the same traits, a lot
Speaker 1: of the same size. I think he'll be off the
Speaker 1: board by about eighty, but if you miss out on Rook,
Speaker 1: he'd be your backup plan. Michael Hall had a really
Speaker 1: good Senior Bowl Ohio State, true three trick penetrator. Anytime
Speaker 1: after about pick ninety five for me is good for him.
Speaker 1: He is the guy that is going to poke holes
Speaker 1: in an offensive line. You'd give him one gap and
Speaker 1: tell him to get through.
Speaker 3: He'll be able to do it.
Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter from Duke is right there too, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite this type of players in this draft. He's
Speaker 1: going to be I think right around thee hundred mark,
Speaker 1: and that's largely based on this year's tape. If you
Speaker 1: go back and look at last year's tape. If he'd
Speaker 1: come out last year, I think he's a guaranteed top
Speaker 1: seventy five pick ton of talent.
Speaker 3: I don't think he got that much worse.
Speaker 1: Sometimes situations just change, and evaluators have multiple years of
Speaker 1: tape to look at.
Speaker 3: Folks are seeing stuff with Dwayne Carter.
Speaker 1: I think everybody's kind of wait and thinking they might
Speaker 1: have him in the back pocket and somebody's gonna pull
Speaker 1: him early and disappoint folks. And then a little farther down,
Speaker 1: Leonard Taylor from Miami again more like Michael Hall, true
Speaker 1: three tech plays with a bit of a narrow base,
Speaker 1: but man, he can penetrate.
Speaker 3: Miami played him out of position this year. They played
Speaker 3: him more at zero one.
Speaker 1: They asked to bulk up because they had a defensive
Speaker 1: tackle leave right before the season started, and he kind
Speaker 1: of took one for the team and moved over and
Speaker 1: bulked up. Not his best role. He's back, slimmed down.
Speaker 1: He looks much quicker and more explosive.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: He's probably somewhere in the somewhere in the one twenties,
Speaker 1: early to late don't know. But again, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for that piece to add, that would be the guy.
Speaker 2: I think it's very valuable to have these conversations because
Speaker 2: the Dolphins next year, the way it's played out right now,
Speaker 2: we'll see things can change because of playing time and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But right now, the Dolphins figure to
Speaker 2: have three third round picks next year because of the
Speaker 2: losses of Christian Wilkins and Robert Hunt and free agency
Speaker 2: and non competing contracts coming in. As far as how
Speaker 2: that compensatory formula plays out, so Miami, I think with that,
Speaker 2: I think they have a their schedule for a sixth.
Speaker 5: Round comp pick next year as well.
Speaker 2: So all those future picks, I think there is a
Speaker 2: chance they could dip into that pool and move up
Speaker 2: or just That's what makes this so much fun, man,
Speaker 2: all the permutations that could possibly play out here, with
Speaker 2: all the options you have with all these teams, and
Speaker 2: they're multiple draft picks for years and years to come.
Speaker 5: Good stuff there.
Speaker 2: I want to finish up with the last question here
Speaker 2: for you the sleepers, right, this is kind of where
Speaker 2: you know area scouts make their money.
Speaker 5: I think people like you and Brett probably this is where.
Speaker 2: You kind of put a feather in your cap as
Speaker 2: a guy that you called like, I'll never forget what
Speaker 2: I had a great post once upon a time about
Speaker 2: central Michigan and I was like two names to keep
Speaker 2: an eye on. Antonio Brown pretty good right, and missed
Speaker 2: that one by a little bit. But I thought, I
Speaker 2: thought they were pretty good at college, so I took one.
Speaker 2: I got, I bought it, you know, five hundred and
Speaker 2: onemost Hall of Fame type of receiver.
Speaker 5: So I'll take that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's where these types of conversations I think
Speaker 2: really provide values, these late day three options. What do
Speaker 2: you like there? Man, defensive tackles in that range on
Speaker 2: rounds five, six, and seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're now post pick one hundred, so you
Speaker 1: know a few of the guys will probably lead off
Speaker 1: Day three. McKay Wingo from LSU is a lot of
Speaker 1: fun as a splashing three tech. He is undersized, he
Speaker 1: is short, he has short arms, but man, he can
Speaker 1: really move. And anytime after about the one fifty mark,
Speaker 1: McKai Wingo, I think is gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: interest from teams who want that one piece and missed
Speaker 1: out or just prioritize other positions up high and think, hey,
Speaker 1: we could add this guy as a sort of Nascar
Speaker 1: type rusher to our third down package. He is going
Speaker 1: to be, I would say, pretty pigeonholed in that role.
Speaker 1: Early in his career as a sort of late down
Speaker 1: pass rusher. I think he can develop into more, but
Speaker 1: he's probably the He's the race car of this group,
Speaker 1: so I think he'll go ahead of these other two guys.
Speaker 1: And then Juwan Briggs from Cincy was at UVA, finished
Speaker 1: up at Cincinnati. He's gonna be underdrafted. He was really
Speaker 1: explosive at the Shrine Bowl. Definitely caught her eye. We like,
Speaker 1: who's the guy from Cincy, and then we realized that
Speaker 1: he'd been at UVA for four years and he just
Speaker 1: had a grad transfer year at Cincinnati. Really transitioned his
Speaker 1: body during this process. He's taken it very, very seriously.
Speaker 1: He is a super smart guy and fun fact, sang
Speaker 1: for my cousin at UVA. He's also a singer, so
Speaker 1: I think Bruce Feldman posted a solo and I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, sent it to my cousin. I was like,
Speaker 1: Juwan's one of your guys. He was like he was
Speaker 1: before he transferred. So, uh, you know, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for singing defensive tackles, I mean it worked out for
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner and the Rams.
Speaker 3: There you go, it's Juwan Briggs.
Speaker 5: And then the last time I just watched to.
Speaker 2: A tongue of iloa. Seeing Bob Marley's what's the name
Speaker 2: of the song? Every little thing is gonna be all right?
Speaker 2: What's the title that song?
Speaker 5: Don't even know three Little Birds the I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't know it because things like that. I just watched
Speaker 5: it last night. So good company there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's always great to have that talent in
Speaker 1: the locker room for sure. Last guy is Jordan Jefferson,
Speaker 1: another LSU guy who is a hulk smash type player
Speaker 1: who can really set an edge for you, and that
Speaker 1: is a necessary skill. We talked with Matt Bowen about
Speaker 1: this all the time that if you can't set an edge, it's.
Speaker 3: Going to be a really long day. I don't care
Speaker 3: what level you're at.
Speaker 1: You need that guy we talked about earlier in this podcast,
Speaker 1: that you need that sort of pin and poll guy.
Speaker 3: Jefferson's going to be available.
Speaker 1: That is the one thing he does really well right
Speaker 1: now is just beat up offensive tackles, not move a lot.
Speaker 1: He's not going to give you a lot of pass rush,
Speaker 1: but you're going to get him very late because of that.
Speaker 1: So I think you'll go in a similar range to
Speaker 1: Briggs really probably around pick one seventy five or a
Speaker 1: little bit later, but a lot of value there because
Speaker 1: it is a role that will keep you employed in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 3: For seven or eight years.
Speaker 5: E J sneunder Bootleg Football.
Speaker 2: I feel like this time of year with all my
Speaker 2: friends that I do these podcasts with, it's almost like
Speaker 2: when the comic has a new special coming out and
Speaker 2: he does the same, like eight podcasts that you listen
Speaker 2: to the comedy podcast like I've seen you on NFL
Speaker 2: Sack Exchange, which, by the way, that episode that you
Speaker 2: guys did together was really good.
Speaker 4: EJ.
Speaker 2: Just seeing Trevor make the rounds, like Trevor saying like, oh,
Speaker 2: hopped on Rich Eyes new show today? Like yeah, you
Speaker 2: hopped on though, did you have one of the biggest
Speaker 2: shows of all time? Good for you, a big dog,
Speaker 2: So really cool to get you guys on here. Appreciate
Speaker 2: your time man. And he's at EJ Football on Twitter,
Speaker 2: the Bootleg Football podcast. Check out the YouTube channel as well.
Speaker 2: These guys are doing elite level content for a long
Speaker 2: time now, so you're missing out if you're not checking
Speaker 2: them out.
Speaker 5: You're the best. EJ. What are you guys working on?
Speaker 2: And I would be remiss if I didn't mention this
Speaker 2: on the podcast every time you came on telling me
Speaker 2: when the division previews are starting this year.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Division previews will probably start a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier this year, maybe end of May. We'll see, if
Speaker 1: not first thing in June. It won't be middle of
Speaker 1: June like it was last year, so we'll be cranking
Speaker 1: those up. They will be similar, but as always a
Speaker 1: little bit different. We've got some improvements, but for now
Speaker 1: we are again racing to the draft. I think we
Speaker 1: have content coming out every day. Next week, We've got
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah coming out. We've got Matt Bowen, Emery Hunt.
Speaker 1: You know, we've got three more Shrine Bowl interviews sprinkled in.
Speaker 3: Jeez, we had Brandon Thorn for offensive line.
Speaker 1: Almost forgot the best offensive line guy out there on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Just because there's so many, so literally content
Speaker 1: almost every day up until the draft. They won't be
Speaker 1: sitting down with Jordan Reid after the draft talking about
Speaker 1: some of the best fits in the draft, and then
Speaker 1: then we might get some sleep good stuff.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you, Jay Man, thank you, and that will do it.
Speaker 2: I know I told you guys we were gonna do
Speaker 2: non Dolphins type of content on the podcast. But we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to rush some of these in here because
Speaker 2: it got kind of behind on the position groups. But
Speaker 2: I did ask those guys some Dolphins specific questions, so
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