WEBVTT - Drive Time: Running Backs and Defensive Tackles 2024 Dolphins Draft Preview with Emory Hunt and EJ Snyder 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:06.640 To on the move, going deep Speedways Pass. 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:10.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.680 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.440 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.280 What is up, Dolph Fans? And welcome to the Drive 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.360 Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:33.440 And on today's show. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.720 We continue with the Draft preview series, two position groups. Today, 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.560 Emery Hunt helps us break down the running back class. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:40.839 E J. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.599 Snyder helps us with the defensive tackles. All of that 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.120 and a heck of a lot more from the Baptist 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.360 Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:55.520 the Drive Time Podcasts. Kick it off today with my 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.600 first interview talking running backs. Emery Hunt. You guys know 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.440 who he is, The CBS Sports HQ's Emery Hunt the 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.080 middle of his usual three draft season appearances here on 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.200 Draft I will talk to him again for the udfas 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.679 here in a month or so. Emery, how you doing man, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.240 and where is the energy level for you as we 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.160 come down the home stretch of draft season. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:16.800 I'm doing fine, man. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.959 In the interview level is high because we're getting closer 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.160 to the draft season, Draft Day right and you know, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.440 I released my Draft guide, so I'm out promoting that thing, 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.200 and I'm all about now talking to football because I 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.959 finally able where was able to finish, you know, covering 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.000 these prospects, so now I'm able to talk about these prospects. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:35.720 It's funny. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.240 I feel like that's almost like a movie star or 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.360 a comedian who has a new hour out. It's like 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.200 they put on all that work and they grind all 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.200 that time. But for the most part, those are the 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.840 ones that that professional. They seem to hate the interview circuit, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.160 the talk shows, the podcast, all this stuff, But it 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.000 sounds like for you, that's when the fun begins. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.040 Right right, because you got to talk about what you 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:55.480 just watch. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.640 And now that now that you are comfortable talking about 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.400 prospects and giving your take on it because you have 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.840 a more well rounded take on the class on individuals, Yeah, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.320 let's get out here and talk about it. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.160 I'm not going to throw them under the bus, but 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.760 I will say one of my good friends in the 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.600 industry who actually cannot do the draft preview series so 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.480 you can use you can put together the pieces there. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:16.919 And figure out who might be. But he was telling me, 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.639 like Travis I'm tired, man. 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:19.520 I'm so tired. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.639 This is an exhausting process, and so that's why it's 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.320 so valuable for someone like me to rely on someone 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.840 like you and the rest of the community. We have 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.079 doing this for us here to break down these position 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.680 groups and give us some more widening perspectives on what 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.760 this draft class looks like. Let's go ahead and start here, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.040 because I want to start with the actual Dolphins current 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:38.600 running backs. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.240 And I think we talked about this in Indianapolis. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.760 What better time for a refresher than right now, because 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.800 Miami had two rookie backs last year that were completely 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.120 different in terms of their play style. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.560 Both productive. One played some one played a little bit. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.800 Wanted to get your thoughts on the first season of 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.639 Devon a Chan and Chris Brooks and where you see 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.000 their games going. And you're number two here for Mike 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.519 McDaniel on the Dolphins offense. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.960 I'm excited about a Chan because again, I love speed, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.959 and he has the ability to hit the home run 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.800 from anywhere on the field and we saw that at times. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.239 You know, you just want him to stay healthy. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.000 I know injuries are a freak occurrence, so you can't 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.480 predict that but if he's out there, I expect him 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.800 this year to have even more of a role in 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.959 that game. I know we talked in India about the 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.240 quietest one hundred yard game and the fastest one hundred 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.519 yard game. So with someone like that, I'm excited for 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.840 him now that he's going to have a year of 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.160 pro strength and conditioning, doesn't have to do all the 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.640 travel circuit that he did during the draft process. And 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.680 for Brooks, we know about what he was able to 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.400 do at the Hula Bowl last year. Physical back end 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.600 again going into year two with a lot of these guys, 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:44.920 if he could stay healthy, he could be that pay 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.000 center for the run game because of what he brings 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.360 to his table from a physicality standpoint. So you expect 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.240 these guys in year two much calmer offseason as opposed 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.360 to the draft cycle. So I expect those guys to 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.640 hit the ground running, both figuratively and literally. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.920 Andy, I'm impressed, man, because I have a buddy that 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.280 a long time listener of the podcast, met up with 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.360 a few times one of the back in Seattle, and 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.880 he's always like telling me about segments that he likes 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.640 in the podcast, Like I recorded that two days ago, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:09.280 I forgot what it is? 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:09.800 Can you riind me? 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:11.600 You just pulled back a segment from a month and 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.560 a half ago that I've forgotten about and you remembered it yourself. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.760 So you are impressive of my friend. As always. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.920 Let's go ahead and talk about this draft class though, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.040 because and you know the reason I bring up eight 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.400 Chan and Brooks because both those guys, you know, I 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.240 think are gonna have, you know, good roles for the 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.359 Dolphins this year. But I just can't imagine pick twenty 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.800 one being a running back Dolphins or otherwise. I mean, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.520 the room is pretty good right now, and I'm not 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.799 sure the draft class has a player at that spot. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:36.880 But that's why I wanted to get you on. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.400 I'm curious who is your top back and where do 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.280 you think he comes off the board. When does the 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.560 running back run begin in twenty twenty four. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.320 I think it begins on date two. My number one 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.200 back is Braylan Nollan out of Wisconsin. The reason why 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.320 I had him number one, outside of him being super talented, 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.080 it's the fact that he has youth on his side. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:55.839 He's super young. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.000 He started college at what's seventeen years old, so and 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.479 he was total net a big ten at that age, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.800 and so when you think about him, combining his foot 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.400 work his physicality, I just like the. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:07.480 Way he runs the ball. 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.000 I think he's gonna be a solid pro, and I 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.279 feel like that's gonna be one of the first backs. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.200 I know people love Jonathan Brooks. Not gonna get an 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.560 argument for me in that regard, But I do feel 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.520 like we'll see the run on running backs go maybe 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.320 mid second round into the third round. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.200 So it kind of sounds like fifty five for miami'd 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.880 be a little bit two like, because I know the 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.920 Cowboys are at fifty six and everyone's kind of got 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.279 their first running back pencil in there. But it sounds 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.279 like fifty five might be a little bit too rich. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.960 Is there a spot maybe where you think a run begins? 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.240 Like I'm thinking, because the Dolphins could stand to. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.680 Use more mid round draft capital. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.320 They go from pick fifty five and then not again 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.560 till one fifty eight if they wind up back in 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.599 that third or fourth round. You know, I like, there's 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.120 a great picture of Mike McDaniel with Xavier Worthy at 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.880 the Texas Pro Day, and it's like, yeah, he probably 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.600 likes that guy. Because the four to two to one speed, right, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.360 you can. You can put that together there. But I'm 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.440 curious if there's a back in that third or fourth 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.039 round that you might like as a potential option. 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.360 Should Miami acquire another midground drafted. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.280 Listen, and with the way the kickoff return rules have 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.960 chan you know, so you add that element to it. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.000 And we're talking about third round because even though I 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.840 think this guy may be gone, he would be perfect 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.720 because he kind of gives you the best of both worlds. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.279 He's big, explosive, he's you know, physical, and that's Isaac 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.240 Garrindau out of Louisville four to three explosive, has kickoff 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.120 return in his background at the University of Wisconsin and 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.800 reminds me a lot of Michael Turner, you know, a big, 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.840 big back that has explosive speed. Also, if we're sticking 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.000 with the theme of the Dolphins backfield and speed, how 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.720 about Jaydon Shirton out of Mama. You know, here's someone 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.560 five seven one ninety and I truly believe someone like 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.239 Heaton Mitchell helped him out last year because people looked 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.200 at Mitchell's size and that's probably why he didn't go 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.680 in any of the rounds right, he went undrafted, but 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.880 you couldn't ignore his explosive playmaking ability and his speed. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.320 And he gets out there for Baltimore in the preseason 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.160 and it didn't take long for people to realize, Yo, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.239 this dude got the juice. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.080 Sherton has that juice. 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.480 Sherdon is someone that I've watched over eleven games in 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.320 his three year career at Mamath, and he is someone 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.480 that can, you know, fit with the Dolphins want to 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.720 do running the football, fit what they do athletically because 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.480 he has game breaking speed. And when you're thinking about 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.920 the new kickoff returnal rule, that's a guy that can 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.160 probably help you out as a former running back back 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.640 there or as a running back back there, you know, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.880 and you're trying to create different blocking schemes and trying 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:31.040 to pop up in the lane. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.160 You want someone that's used to setting. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.440 Up his blockers, that's used to kind of being patient 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.320 and exploding, exploding through a hole and exploiting a hole. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.160 Sherton would be a perfect guy in that regard. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:44.200 Great stuff there. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.240 I have three follow ups off of that, and the 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.040 first one is not even a question. It's just I 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.320 literally wrote down Isaac Grendo. Ask Emery where he thinks 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.960 that he goes, because I'm again four three to one speed, right, Like, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:56.400 if you can run. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.480 Fast, you might have a role in this offense. 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.920 And I think about, you know, watching him just hit 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.520 those second level like a couple of broken tackles on 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.280 safeties and all of a sudden it's a long touchdown. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.000 So you mentioned you think third round for Grenda, how 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.720 do you think that his skill set would translate to 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.960 the Dolphins wide zone primary running offense. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:13.960 Listen, here's the thing. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.600 If you are a former kickoff returner, you used to 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.200 be basically running outside zone, right, So you know, you 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.440 that's the most ideal fit someone that has experience in 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.280 returning to kicks. I mean, look at their depth, look 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.080 at their backfield, Moster return kicks, h Chan return kicks, 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.760 Wilson return So it's like, you know, this is har 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:34.440 for the course. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.720 So he fits in perfectly in my opinion. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.679 The last follow up I had for you here was 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.920 regarding you know, you mentioned Keaton Mitchell and like, gosh, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.400 what a fun player he was. It suck when he 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.959 went down last year with that injury, But I'm curious 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.480 why it seems like this position more than others. 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.400 And I don't have numbers behind this. This is just 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:51.480 kind of my feeling. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.760 It seems like running back, more than any other spot, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.200 can get Day three guys or even udfas that come 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.280 in and don't just contribute, but turn into like star 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.560 pieces on the off. Keith Mitchell's a great example of that. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.559 Why do you think that is at this position? 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.600 It's a self fulfilling prophecy. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.640 You know, you keep telling yourself that, don't take running 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:09.480 backs in the first round. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:10.720 You can find them anywhere. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.040 So you don't take running backs in the first round, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.200 and you get guys they probably should have gone around 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.599 earlier in whatever round you take them. And he's like, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.680 oh see, look we got a guy that was undrafted. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.199 He you get running backs anywhere. Well, you've told yourself 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.480 all throughout the years, you know that guy probably should 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.720 have been a second round pick. And you know, especially 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.560 now with the it's funny because everyone speaks in terms 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.199 of contracts, right, Well, you know, you never want to 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.120 pay a running back on you know, a second contract, 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.600 and you know, is anybody getting kept nowadays, Like we 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.920 just saw quarterbacks get moved on their first contract. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.439 Running back everybody's getting moved. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.360 So if you have a guy that's good for three years, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:48.600 kudos to you. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.319 You know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's a. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.439 Great thing because we are going to the days where 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.000 you saying, Okay, this guy's gonna be our running back 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.719 for the next decade, but this quarterback is going to 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.960 be our next quarterback for the next fifteen years. Those 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.200 days are gone. People are getting you know, people, you 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.960 barely get three years with a team even if you're good. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.640 So you know, people just told themselves over time that 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.560 running back position don't matter until they knee deep in 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.439 the playoffs. And he's like, man, you can't run the ball. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.360 Well you think you just you think that. So that's 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.199 where I feel my stance is on that position. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:21.400 A little bit of. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:21.839 Salt in there. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.679 I love that from you former running back himself giving 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.400 us some information here on the podcast. And you know, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.240 I look at like it's funny how quick perception can change, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.240 because you know, when a chan comes off the board 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.480 as a third round draft pick, it's like that that's 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.160 a third round rookie doesn't really have much expectations going 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.960 into at least among the you know, most of the 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.680 casual NFL fan base, and then now a year later, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.680 with just one hundred carries later, it's like he looks 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:43.480 like a star talent. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.080 So it's funny how quickly that can change. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.319 And speaking of that third day in late round draft picks, 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.800 last question for you here Emory Hunt, CBS Sports HQ 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.760 Day three gems. I've got no one better in the 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:54.880 world I go to for Day three gems and Emory 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.320 Hunt at the running back position in particular, what you 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.800 got from a big dog, Well. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:01.560 You know, he's a name that's popular. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.760 Will Shipley I feel like fits Miami in his versatility, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.600 and he also has kickoff return capability, So that's one 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:10.160 guy to keep. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.280 An eye on jailing right. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.520 I know people love him because of his speed, but 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.000 I feel like Miami would be another place that could 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:21.080 use him because of his one cut downhill nature. You 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.960 also want someone his teammate Jabari Small could be another one. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.400 So there's a bunch of these type guys. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.960 But if you want a deep cut, someone that no 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.080 one is talking about. He's a Canadian cat, so we 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.200 may see him get drafted in the CFL as well. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:40.520 At running back. Michael Herzog of Hillsdale College Division two program. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.240 He's like a Division two version of Will Shipley. He 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:49.880 has fantastic footwar agility, great kickoff returner average eighteen point seven. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.880 You allso returning his career, you know, it's a GMAC 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.800 Player of the Year, two time first team All Conference guy. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.400 And I watched him down at the College Grown Showcase, 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.960 and you know, so that's going from Division two and 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.960 watching watching him against FCS and FBS competition. More than 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.880 held his zone all week long. Very good receiver that 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.360 can beat you down the field. So he's someone that again, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:15.640 he's a he's a Canadian born player, so he's eligible 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.800 to be drafted in the CFL. Had a really good 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.680 CFL combined a couple of weeks ago. But he's someone 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.319 that if he's on the NFL roster as an undrafted 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:24.440 freezing it wouldn't surprise me. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.520 Hillsdale College pool, it's always impressive, can you So? One 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.120 thing I'm trying to do a better job of myself 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.040 is as mentioned in the names of or the colleges 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.480 of these players, the two teammates, what school were they 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:33.840 part of? 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:35.360 Tennessee? 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:35.920 Tennessee? 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.600 Okay, thank you, Dot, I just had to clarify that 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.920 because you know he brought awesome names. Sometimes you don't 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.400 remember college they went to, and then the fans like, hey, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.079 what are you talking about back there? It's like I forgot, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.520 because like I mentioned, I forget my own podcast half 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:45.839 the time. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:46.240 Anyway. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.840 So there you go, CBS Sports HQ at f Ball 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.480 Game Plan on Social Emory Hunt, Emery, can we get 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.360 you on the books for early mid May for the 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:54.560 UDFA podcast again? 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.400 Absolutely, and eighty fans out there, make sure you order 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.960 the Football Game Playing Draft gud over nine hundred individual 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.880 scouting reports, the largest draft guide out there, Football gameplan 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.440 dot com slash twenty twenty four draft guide, And if 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.480 you've been a loyal subscriber to The Draft Guy since 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.680 twenty twenty, right now you'd be sitting on over forty 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.080 three hundred individual scouting reports. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.800 That's just insane, it is. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.920 And you know there's value top for sure, no short 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.600 changing that. But if you want sleepers, this is your man. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.480 This guy watches more players than anybody else out there. Emry, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.480 appreciate your time. As always, I'm thanks for promoting The 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.040 Draft Guy. I almost let that up on the wayside. 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.680 Thanks for doing that. Thanks for your time today. My 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:33.440 friend be good man. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.120 Appreciate you, Travis. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.080 And there he goes. Always a fun chat man. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.959 I always like getting new voices in the podcast here, 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:44.800 but the camaraderie and the just overall, I guess, chemistry 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.160 with guys that you know, it's tough to beat that. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.000 Speaking of that, let's go ahead and take our first 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.760 break and come back on the other side with another 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.400 good friend of mine who does a great job in 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.319 the space from Bootleg Football, e J. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:55.880 Snyder. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.880 That's next Draft Time podcast to your host, Travis Wingfield, 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:03.800 brought to you by Auto Nation. Draft Talk season rolls 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.839 on here with my next guest, friend of the show, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.560 friend of Travis. That's me from Bootleg Football, e J Snyder. EJ, 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.960 what is up, buddy? 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.160 It is that time of year. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.320 We are all on full sprint, caffeinated, no sleep, just 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.800 welging towards the draft at this point. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.800 That's all there is to it. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.200 It comes faster every single year. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.000 I feel like, maybe that's having children, maybe that's you know, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.280 just being busier as you get older in life. But 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.800 I feel like, man, this year's class kind of snuck 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.000 up on us here and here we roll into I 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.520 don't even know what position group number of thiss is. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.960 We are doing defensive tackles with you here, but maybe 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:38.960 five or six, I don't know. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:40.320 I've done a lot of these last couple of days. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:41.960 Let's go ahead and get into it. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.520 And I had Trevor Sikkima on the show on Friday, 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.080 who I know did your podcast as well, to talk 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.720 about the edge group. And you know, I'm looking at 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.640 this Dolphins defense and Anthony Weaver and so many different 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.440 groups that have these crossover type of positions and defensive tackle, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.160 defensive end kind of falls in that mold. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.880 Safety and cornerback kind of falls in that mold. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.440 Well, like they ran up in Baltimore and they always 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.200 had on their D line in Baltimore Underweaver their true 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.640 nose tackle. Right, But then like a bunch of these 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.040 super versable guys who can play all over the front. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.680 So I guess first to kind of make this Dolphins 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.440 focused originally, here, I want to ask you about the 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.240 post Christian Wilkins era, the value of Zach Sealer, the 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.800 additions of tier Tart, Binito Jones, Nebel Gallimore, Jonathan Harris 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.000 retaining to Sean hann who had a good year last year. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.400 I'm curious what you think of the approach there of 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:35.200 signing all these veteran, versatile guys to pair with someone 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.960 as good as Zach Seeler. Do you see a Raven's 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.040 type of approach here up front for the Dolphins. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.160 Seems like that's what they're going for, and again, the 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:48.160 fit is still a thing. Like on paper, that approach 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.240 matches up with the way they worked in Baltimore, and 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.280 I like a lot of those guys, like I think 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.960 Tier Tart if he can, if he can rebound from 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.120 his year last year, He's an incredibly talented guy that 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.560 flew under the radar for years. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.600 Jones I like coming out. He's I think a little 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.800 bit more limited, but really useful in his role. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.080 Gallimore was a guy who was super high on in 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.200 the draft, had some up and down years in Dallas. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.720 But again, I think if he fits in Weavers system, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.000 that Baltimore system, that versatile system, he could be a 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.880 guy like Tart that has a lot more impact than 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.400 his contract would indicate. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.880 Let's just put it that way. So I like the approach. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.440 I don't think they're done, but it certainly feels like 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.000 they are setting up to say, these are the chess 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.080 pieces we need to do the things we want to 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:34.720 do on defense. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.560 Yeah, there's a couple of guys and we're going to 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:37.800 get into it here in just one second that I 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.840 think make a lot of sense at pick twenty one 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.960 in this position group if they are on the board, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.920 and of course if the ball the board falls a 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.320 certain way, you never know how it's going to happen 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.440 until DRAFTA actually gets here. But you mentioned Benito and 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.200