WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 23 0:00:01.230 --> 0:00:05.170 Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst, 0:00:05.410 --> 0:00:08.690 where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest 0:00:08.730 --> 0:00:09.910 sports stories. 0:00:09.570 --> 0:00:10.050 Of the day. 0:00:10.070 --> 0:00:14.600 Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst. Not so fast, my friends. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.560 Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He is 0:00:20.660 --> 0:00:25.180 Paul Paps. Paul, it is unseasonably warm for football weather. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.300 It's not football weather this weekend. I looked at the 0:00:27.340 --> 0:00:31.070 college football slate. USC's home game, 98 degrees. What happened 0:00:31.090 --> 0:00:33.550 last time? Not a lot of people showed up. There's 0:00:33.590 --> 0:00:37.810 only one top 25 football game under 70 degrees this weekend. 0:00:37.830 --> 0:00:39.050 You won't get that coverage anywhere else. 0:00:39.090 --> 0:00:40.670 Wow. All right. What do we got cooking today? 0:00:40.810 --> 0:00:41.830 We got a lot cooking today. 0:00:41.890 --> 0:00:44.949 Busy sports weekend, NFL, college playoffs, but big picture? 0:00:45.460 --> 0:00:46.320 Dan Patrick joins us. 0:00:46.340 --> 0:00:50.260 I can't wait. Okay. Last night, of course, we knew 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.550 we'd be coming in early on not so fast. But 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.290 the Cleveland Browns is a potential playoff team. Three and 0:00:55.510 --> 0:00:58.590 one beat the Steelers. Paul, what's your first reaction to 0:00:58.610 --> 0:00:59.790 what happened last night in Cleveland? 0:00:59.810 --> 0:01:01.850 Well, I think I said on the Dan Patrick show earlier, 0:01:01.890 --> 0:01:03.910 this is like a couple C students in a fight, 0:01:04.110 --> 0:01:07.310 like a math contest. These are two nice teams. There's 0:01:07.350 --> 0:01:09.010 nothing wrong with them. And there's not a lot right 0:01:09.030 --> 0:01:11.550 with them. At the Cleveland Browns, they won. They could 0:01:11.569 --> 0:01:13.700 have given it up in the second half. But it 0:01:13.740 --> 0:01:16.470 just feels like a good game between two teams that 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:17.889 are in the middle of the road somewhere. 0:01:18.410 --> 0:01:20.770 Well, you know what? If you're 9-8, are you a 0:01:20.790 --> 0:01:22.690 good team? If you're 10-7, are you a good team? 0:01:22.730 --> 0:01:25.170 Because both teams have a good chance of making the playoffs. 0:01:25.209 --> 0:01:27.230 Yeah, they both have nice rosters. I thought in the 0:01:27.270 --> 0:01:29.390 second half, you look there, Cleveland looks like they're in 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.540 good shape. But Cleveland has been outscored by 14 points 0:01:32.580 --> 0:01:34.149 this season. They could be 0-4 instead of 3-1. 0:01:35.819 --> 0:01:38.080 I'm going to counter your argument. I think Deshaun Watson 0:01:38.100 --> 0:01:40.190 is getting more comfortable in that offense. I think the 0:01:40.220 --> 0:01:42.830 young players are getting more comfortable. So, no, I'm not 0:01:42.890 --> 0:01:45.790 talking about them as a 12-win team, but I think 0:01:45.810 --> 0:01:47.930 you're going to see a much more competitive Cleveland team 0:01:47.950 --> 0:01:48.910 than at least I expected. 0:01:49.030 --> 0:01:50.290 Yeah, I agree with you. 0:01:50.410 --> 0:01:53.070 Boston, the young wide receiver in Concepcion, they looked really 0:01:53.090 --> 0:01:54.890 good in the first half. But then in the second half, 0:01:54.930 --> 0:01:57.410 if you were up for the second half, Deshaun Watson 0:01:57.430 --> 0:01:59.760 tried to give it back. He read the option wrong, 0:01:59.860 --> 0:02:01.779 and T.J. Watt just decleted him, and he fumbles. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:02.440 Absolutely. 0:02:02.460 --> 0:02:04.340 He threw in a triple coverage late in the game 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.670 when that's the only thing they didn't need was an interception. 0:02:07.490 --> 0:02:09.450 He also had a play where he could have closed 0:02:09.490 --> 0:02:11.959 out the game to Harold Fannin, and he missed him. 0:02:12.090 --> 0:02:14.109 He completely missed him on the left side, and that 0:02:14.130 --> 0:02:15.190 would have basically closed out the game. 0:02:15.230 --> 0:02:17.649 If you look at this play here, What is that about? 0:02:17.810 --> 0:02:19.150 I know it was tipped, but my God. 0:02:19.630 --> 0:02:21.769 Well, I mean, listen, it's the Cleveland Browns. Maybe my 0:02:21.810 --> 0:02:24.310 bar is lower for you. Well, the Cleveland Browns are 3-1, 0:02:24.430 --> 0:02:26.730 and you're throwing cold water on it. Did you see 0:02:26.750 --> 0:02:28.590 the stadium last night? They were going crazy. 0:02:28.690 --> 0:02:31.830 It's a feel-good story. It's a good, especially when you've 0:02:31.850 --> 0:02:33.760 been starving for a long time. I think they're a 0:02:33.780 --> 0:02:35.660 nice squad. I don't want to go too much further 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:36.940 than September with them. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.560 A couple numbers I found interesting. Cleveland's won five straight 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.460 over the Steelers at home, but guess the last time 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:42.940 they beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh? 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:43.799 On a Thursday night? 0:02:44.730 --> 0:02:47.630 I don't know. It was 2003. So there's something about 0:02:47.650 --> 0:02:50.169 the Steelers coming to the Browns. It makes it a 0:02:50.230 --> 0:02:52.510 rock fight every time. So it's not a shock that 0:02:52.530 --> 0:02:54.650 Cleveland won that game. I think what you're saying is 0:02:54.690 --> 0:02:57.470 it doesn't mean what some people said last night, that 0:02:57.530 --> 0:02:58.609 this means Cleveland is back. 0:02:58.669 --> 0:03:00.610 I think most people would still take the Bengals over 0:03:00.630 --> 0:03:02.430 them and still take the Ravens over them. I think 0:03:02.470 --> 0:03:04.889 you could feel good about the condition of the franchise. 0:03:04.930 --> 0:03:07.830 You put up with the Deshaun Watson off the field stuff, 0:03:07.910 --> 0:03:10.180 and now the on the field stuff, which there was 0:03:10.190 --> 0:03:11.840 a point last year, he was like Kaiser Soze. 0:03:11.850 --> 0:03:13.700 I didn't think we'd ever see the guy on the field. 0:03:14.540 --> 0:03:16.860 And I think that, like you said, he's playing decent football, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.090 B-level football, and that's enough. But more so, if you 0:03:20.100 --> 0:03:22.590 look what their front office did, the Miles Garrett trade 0:03:22.710 --> 0:03:26.630 versus fantastic. They've got good wide receivers. Running back Judkins 0:03:26.690 --> 0:03:29.250 is a good running back. Fannin, the defense with Graham. 0:03:29.690 --> 0:03:32.290 They have a nice roster. So whoever the quarterback is. 0:03:32.230 --> 0:03:34.109 Now or going forward at least has a team around 0:03:34.150 --> 0:03:35.730 him and isn't just running for his life. 0:03:35.750 --> 0:03:38.470 Yeah, GM Andrew Barry's made some nice picks. Carson Schlesinger 0:03:38.510 --> 0:03:39.480 in the second round was a great pick. 0:03:39.500 --> 0:03:40.380 You nailed Schlesinger, by the way. 0:03:40.540 --> 0:03:43.000 I know. Denzel Boston in the second round was obviously 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.520 a great pick. I will counter you a little more 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.760 on Deshaun Watson. When he runs, it opens up everything. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:50.860 So the question is, can he run like he did 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.589 last night? He's kind of run all season without getting hurt. 0:03:53.650 --> 0:03:56.070 The only reason he was Kaiser Soze is he was hurt. 0:03:55.870 --> 0:03:56.290 All the time. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:56.900 Right. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.160 So now, again, I'm just trying to pump the brakes 0:03:59.180 --> 0:04:01.460 a little bit on them. But again, this is a 0:04:01.500 --> 0:04:03.020 fan base that's been dying for it. Let's go to 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.020 the other side of this, the Steelers. The Steelers could 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.130 have won that game. They had a really nice fourth quarter. 0:04:07.150 --> 0:04:09.970 Aaron Rodgers got them back in play. They were in 0:04:10.110 --> 0:04:13.210 two-point conversion land. And then it's just, you know, it's 0:04:13.250 --> 0:04:14.610 not enough. You mentioned them. 0:04:14.660 --> 0:04:15.480 Earlier before the show. 0:04:15.500 --> 0:04:15.760 You said. 0:04:16.230 --> 0:04:18.250 They're good, but they're good and old, and that's not 0:04:18.290 --> 0:04:18.690 a good good. 0:04:18.930 --> 0:04:21.839 Well, they're the same team that they've been since 2017, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.860 since Ben Roethlisberger got old. They'll win some games they shouldn't, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.690 and they'll lose some games they should not. You've got 0:04:27.710 --> 0:04:30.560 to love that. Don't look. Yeah, I mean, listen, Aaron Rodgers, 0:04:30.980 --> 0:04:33.300 last night he barely completed 50% of his passes, but 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.500 still had 300 yards. He makes a lot of good throws. 0:04:36.900 --> 0:04:39.659 He's dropping back way too much. You've said this all 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.690 season long. Why isn't the offense built around Jalen Warren? 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.990 Why isn't Aaron Rodgers dropping back so many times? 0:04:45.010 --> 0:04:48.830 Yeah, 40 passes, 299, three touchdowns, two picks. The last 0:04:48.890 --> 0:04:51.390 pick doesn't really count because... It's that desperation. 0:04:51.410 --> 0:04:53.790 But he got hit a couple times. Every time he 0:04:53.830 --> 0:04:55.270 gets hit, you think there's going to be a fumble. 0:04:55.410 --> 0:04:57.950 Jalen Warren is in his prime. He's not sharing the backfield. 0:04:58.010 --> 0:05:00.950 I would give him 30 carries. I'm being facetious, but 0:05:01.089 --> 0:05:03.690 they hand the ball very well with him. But Herbstreit 0:05:03.730 --> 0:05:05.750 talked about this. The pass rush, and you see him 0:05:05.770 --> 0:05:06.540 getting sacked there. 0:05:06.650 --> 0:05:06.770 Yeah. 0:05:07.180 --> 0:05:09.020 He's got to make it through this season, and old 0:05:09.140 --> 0:05:10.560 and hurt is not a good mix. 0:05:10.700 --> 0:05:12.420 I'll tell you one thing, though. He got hit this 0:05:12.460 --> 0:05:14.610 many times last year and made it through. He's a 0:05:14.620 --> 0:05:16.150 little bit like a rubber band. He seems to be 0:05:16.170 --> 0:05:18.990 able to take these hits now. He's come back fully 0:05:19.010 --> 0:05:21.170 from his Achilles. Yeah, when he gets hit, is there 0:05:21.210 --> 0:05:22.910 anything ugly? It kind of looks like you or me 0:05:23.010 --> 0:05:23.550 out on the field. 0:05:23.570 --> 0:05:23.770 Oh, I know. 0:05:23.830 --> 0:05:25.830 Anyone gray hair getting hit, you kind of feel bad 0:05:25.870 --> 0:05:28.260 for them. He's got the sprinkle gray. But Herbstreet said 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.120 last night, he was talking about the receivers, there's no separations. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.820 He was looking at the all-22 shot. He said, these 0:05:33.860 --> 0:05:34.700 receivers are not open. 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:35.390 There's nowhere for. 0:05:35.370 --> 0:05:35.810 Him to go. 0:05:36.050 --> 0:05:37.930 Well, where does he go in that situation? 0:05:37.970 --> 0:05:38.710 Washington, you're going. 0:05:38.730 --> 0:05:39.190 Darnell Washington. 0:05:39.230 --> 0:05:41.330 He doesn't have to be open. He's a mountain of 0:05:41.370 --> 0:05:43.890 a man. DK Metcalf came back a little bit late. 0:05:43.970 --> 0:05:45.849 That was, I think, a big part of him getting 0:05:45.870 --> 0:05:47.870 back at it in the second half. There's reason for hope. 0:05:48.210 --> 0:05:50.280 I'm telling you right now, you discount the Steelers at 0:05:50.300 --> 0:05:52.320 your own peril. I don't care if Mike Tomlin is gone. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:55.820 They could be 2-5. They will end up at 9-8 0:05:55.900 --> 0:05:56.500 or 10-7. 0:05:56.540 --> 0:05:58.360 You'd bet your life that they win a 7-plus game. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.180 By the way, that's not a good thing. That's a very, 0:06:00.220 --> 0:06:03.000 very bad thing for Steelers fans. They're so sick of limbo. 0:06:03.700 --> 0:06:05.140 I think they would want to get rid of Aaron 0:06:05.190 --> 0:06:07.930 Rodgers and start over a quarterback. Because you look at 0:06:07.950 --> 0:06:10.770 that schedule, you know it's going to land somewhere around 500. 0:06:10.750 --> 0:06:12.350 They could win their next four in a row based 0:06:12.390 --> 0:06:13.070 off that schedule. 0:06:13.130 --> 0:06:15.289 And you'd be like, they did it again. Because I 0:06:15.330 --> 0:06:17.740 keep saying with the Steelers... When are they going to 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.880 try out another quarterback? And you were talking about it 0:06:20.060 --> 0:06:22.440 before the show. They're not going to do that. I mean, 0:06:22.700 --> 0:06:24.460 if you want it to be Drew Aller or Will Howard, 0:06:24.860 --> 0:06:26.460 when do they do that? When they're not longer in 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.290 the playoff picture, but they're always technically in the playoff picture. 0:06:29.310 --> 0:06:31.910 Well, that's the problem. They draft around 20, which will 0:06:31.930 --> 0:06:32.989 get you a Kenny Pickett. 0:06:33.070 --> 0:06:33.270 Right. 0:06:33.589 --> 0:06:36.970 And it won't get you Sam Darnold. I'm trying to 0:06:36.990 --> 0:06:38.390 think of a good top five pick. They need to 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.560 really tank. They need to rip off the Band-Aid. They're 0:06:40.580 --> 0:06:43.000 going to have to start over quarterback Aaron Rodgers. They 0:06:43.020 --> 0:06:45.669 were talking last night, there's no coming back. Rodgers was 0:06:45.710 --> 0:06:48.589 talking about his plans for next year. He's done. So 0:06:48.870 --> 0:06:50.910 I think if you're a Steelers fan, you really wonder 0:06:50.970 --> 0:06:51.410 what's next. 0:06:51.430 --> 0:06:53.630 Okay, to put a bow on this game, are either team, 0:06:53.710 --> 0:06:55.920 can you picture them being a threatening team if they 0:06:55.940 --> 0:06:57.040 made the playoffs, either team? 0:06:57.220 --> 0:06:59.720 No, no, no, no. I think both teams have a 0:06:59.740 --> 0:07:01.420 good chance to make the playoff, a real chance to 0:07:01.460 --> 0:07:03.680 make the playoffs, but I don't see them as a 0:07:04.100 --> 0:07:05.300 contender for the Super Bowl. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.060 You did sway me a little bit about the young 0:07:07.100 --> 0:07:10.080 guys with Deshaun Watson, and somehow if this keeps up, 0:07:10.170 --> 0:07:14.180 like decent football in the playoff picture, In December, those 0:07:14.220 --> 0:07:15.620 young guys become like sophomores. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.190 They always talk about freshmen becoming sophomores. 0:07:17.820 --> 0:07:20.730 I could see them being better than people expect because 0:07:20.950 --> 0:07:22.430 they're going to have a dip at some point. 0:07:22.710 --> 0:07:26.490 Oh, absolutely. You're being very nice, by the way. I 0:07:26.550 --> 0:07:29.190 really appreciate this because we have not talked about the 0:07:29.250 --> 0:07:31.050 baseball game on NBC last night yet. 0:07:31.190 --> 0:07:32.850 Hey, you're a Phillies fan. You said they weren't going 0:07:32.870 --> 0:07:35.550 to advance. You called your shot. They didn't advance. Phillies 0:07:35.850 --> 0:07:36.150 are out. 0:07:36.370 --> 0:07:39.560 Braves are in. Braves continue. The lucky Braves, 6-2 over 0:07:39.580 --> 0:07:42.310 the Phillies. They get to face the Dodgers next out 0:07:42.370 --> 0:07:42.610 in L.A. 0:07:42.890 --> 0:07:44.750 Did the Phillies show up at all last night? Was 0:07:44.770 --> 0:07:47.170 that a game at any point after the Harris home run? 0:07:47.190 --> 0:07:50.230 It felt like it was over early. Yeah, they lost 2-6. 0:07:51.150 --> 0:07:53.370 How do you feel about a team that fires their 0:07:53.410 --> 0:07:56.530 manager but then makes the playoffs but then disappoints in 0:07:56.550 --> 0:07:56.929 the playoffs? 0:07:56.990 --> 0:07:58.070 Isn't that a good season? 0:07:58.210 --> 0:08:00.950 Yeah, I saw a headline that they're going to gently 0:08:01.370 --> 0:08:04.950 let Don Mattingly walk out of the building. That's a mistake. No, 0:08:04.970 --> 0:08:06.570 they're not moving on with him. In fact, they're going 0:08:06.590 --> 0:08:08.450 to rip up this entire lineup possibly. They have a 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.720 lot of old, overpaid stars. And I said it earlier 0:08:11.740 --> 0:08:14.000 in the week. They have no chance. Their bullpen always 0:08:14.050 --> 0:08:16.610 blows in the postseason. It's time to try a whole 0:08:16.650 --> 0:08:17.790 new approach if you're the Phillies. 0:08:17.810 --> 0:08:19.530 Let's look at the Braves side of this. Two years ago, 0:08:19.570 --> 0:08:21.910 they were one of the favorites. Last year, a little injured. 0:08:22.230 --> 0:08:23.030 This year, they're back. 0:08:23.070 --> 0:08:24.940 They look good. They handled business at home. 0:08:25.540 --> 0:08:27.880 Against the Dodgers, we never say no chance. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.700 We don't do that here and not so fast. But 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.100 it feels like daunting. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.040 Well, the Braves have really one pitcher, Chris Sale. And 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.330 you need a lot of pitching against the Dodgers. How 0:08:36.350 --> 0:08:40.280 do you sail last night? That's a tough assignment. I 0:08:40.300 --> 0:08:43.260 don't think anyone's going to upset the Dodgers, but the 0:08:43.380 --> 0:08:45.680 one team in particular, because of the pitching staff, I 0:08:45.730 --> 0:08:46.960 just don't see the Braves doing it. 0:08:47.179 --> 0:08:49.209 Sale could probably go in Game 2, probably go in 0:08:49.250 --> 0:08:50.930 Game 5, so they're going to see him twice. 0:08:50.970 --> 0:08:51.750 You need a win there. 0:08:52.150 --> 0:08:54.390 But I think the bigger picture is for the Dodgers, 0:08:54.850 --> 0:08:57.010 they don't have to use Shohei Otani as a pitcher. 0:08:57.470 --> 0:09:01.450 The Dodgers are plus 115. That's almost disrespectful to the Brewers, 0:09:01.470 --> 0:09:03.000 by the way, plus 300. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.620 Oh, why do you say that? The Dodgers still have 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.180 a deeper roster. The Dodgers have everything. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.579 The Brewers outscored the Dodgers this year. They had a 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:10.420 bigger run differential. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.500 Yeah, but the Dodgers were mailing in half the season. 0:09:12.580 --> 0:09:15.120 So you're saying the plan is to pace yourself. 0:09:15.260 --> 0:09:16.839 If you want to keep it friendly, I will take 0:09:16.860 --> 0:09:18.140 the Dodgers all day long. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.209 I'll take the Brewers straight up against the Dodgers this year. 0:09:20.309 --> 0:09:23.850 I look at the Brewers this year as like the 0:09:23.890 --> 0:09:25.590 Pistons when they're trying to get past the team or 0:09:25.610 --> 0:09:27.910 the Bulls. I think this is the year that everything's 0:09:27.929 --> 0:09:29.650 in place. They got a taste of it last year. 0:09:30.070 --> 0:09:31.890 I look at them. Here's my comp for the Brewers. 0:09:32.470 --> 0:09:35.430 The Seahawks last year. They outscored everybody and everyone still 0:09:35.490 --> 0:09:37.570 loved the Rams. The Brewers outscored everybody. 0:09:37.610 --> 0:09:39.850 Look at your face. You're just ready to go. 0:09:40.130 --> 0:09:42.400 Why this Brewers team compared to the one two years ago, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.819 three years ago, six years ago? They win that division 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:45.280 all the time. 0:09:45.420 --> 0:09:48.400 I think that teams find a way to finally realize 0:09:48.420 --> 0:09:50.700 this is it and they get that. Going back to 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.280 the Bulls when they got past the Pistons, I have 0:09:52.300 --> 0:09:55.790 to use the Bulls. I think that if Otani can't 0:09:55.830 --> 0:09:58.230 pitch or he can and they choose not to, that's 0:09:58.350 --> 0:09:58.990 one less arm. 0:09:59.070 --> 0:10:00.739 I know they have tons and tons of arms. 0:10:02.370 --> 0:10:05.390 The problem with that analogy is that Jordan is in L.A. 0:10:05.470 --> 0:10:08.450 His name is Shohei Otani. His pitching is somewhat irrelevant 0:10:08.470 --> 0:10:10.630 to how good they are. They have four Cy Young-level 0:10:10.670 --> 0:10:13.300 pitchers in their starting rotation. They don't need him pitching 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.940 at all. Maybe I'm overestimating the Dodgers, but they are 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.480 the modern dynasty. 0:10:19.540 --> 0:10:21.160 You need a break to beat the Dodgers. You need 0:10:21.179 --> 0:10:23.300 something to go your way and injury so much. But 0:10:23.340 --> 0:10:25.910 the Blue Jays were so close last year. If you 0:10:25.929 --> 0:10:27.970 look at the Dodgers analytically... They're going. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.020 To be in the playoffs every year. Other teams aren't. 0:10:30.100 --> 0:10:33.120 Brewers are. The Brewers are prepared for this. There's no excuses. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.060 By the way, before we break, I don't think we 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:35.800 did helmet stickers. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:36.760 Oh, helmet stickers? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.560 Yeah, for the Browns Steelers. We've got to do our 0:10:38.580 --> 0:10:39.100 helmet stickers. 0:10:39.140 --> 0:10:39.559 You first. 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.260 Well, I haven't been able to put a kicker as 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.700 a helmet sticker, but last night, Andre Schmidt not only 0:10:44.730 --> 0:10:47.270 hit the game winner, 56 yards for the Browns to win. 0:10:47.730 --> 0:10:51.100 He apparently came up to Deshaun Watson before the drive 0:10:51.140 --> 0:10:53.699 and said, get me to the 42-yard line. I just 0:10:53.740 --> 0:10:55.500 want to try a 60-yarder to win. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.620 That is guts. That's guts. He's calling a shot. And also, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.500 he has no vowels in his last name. We like 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:01.640 that about him as well. 0:11:01.740 --> 0:11:02.540 Why not a vowel? 0:11:02.710 --> 0:11:04.410 Not in this case. Not in football terms. 0:11:04.429 --> 0:11:04.809 Who do you got? 0:11:04.950 --> 0:11:08.690 Helmet sticker, rookie wide receiver Denzel Boston. He was fantastic 0:11:08.730 --> 0:11:11.790 last night. And he and Concepcion, you see those guys together. 0:11:11.809 --> 0:11:15.339 Just such promise. Big guy, strong guy. Concepcion is more 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.229 the jitterbug guy. Fantastic pair with Harold Fannin. That's a 0:11:19.270 --> 0:11:22.930 good-looking core. Jutkins in the backfield. Real nice job by 0:11:22.950 --> 0:11:23.689 him last night. 0:11:23.710 --> 0:11:26.650 I convinced the BRGs, the backroom guys, that Denzel Boston 0:11:26.670 --> 0:11:29.630 was David Boston's son, and they believe that it's not true. 0:11:29.670 --> 0:11:30.950 The former Cardinals receiver. 0:11:30.990 --> 0:11:32.410 Until 10 seconds ago, I thought the same. 0:11:32.710 --> 0:11:35.340 All right. On that note, Dan Patrick is booked for 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:36.800 the next segment. After listening to the first one, I'm 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.240 not sure he's going to want to come back here, 0:11:38.620 --> 0:11:40.880 but he promised. So DP will be coming to Not 0:11:40.900 --> 0:11:41.600 So Fast next. 0:11:43.929 --> 0:11:46.370 All right, Pearl, it's a midday pick-me-up and not so fast. 0:11:46.410 --> 0:11:48.390 Pass to Pearl off here. Watch this. You don't see 0:11:48.410 --> 0:11:51.510 this a lot. The Browns dancing before the game's over. 0:11:52.750 --> 0:11:53.290 Good for them. 0:11:53.530 --> 0:11:54.099 Great win. 0:11:54.179 --> 0:11:55.819 Everyone's jumping around, having a good time. 0:11:56.380 --> 0:11:56.959 Take a knee. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.400 Those uniforms are questionable. When you win, nobody cares. 0:11:59.920 --> 0:12:01.940 I was so into Cleveland last night because the crowd 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.980 was so crazy. I was a Browns fan by the 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:04.459 end of the night. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.480 Joining us now, bonus coverage here. Oh, look at this. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:09.850 They're still ready to take the snap. 0:12:10.140 --> 0:12:10.230 Oh. 0:12:10.550 --> 0:12:12.890 Joining us now on Not So Fast, our buddy Dan Patrick, 0:12:12.950 --> 0:12:15.150 fresh off the Dan Patrick show today. Now, when you 0:12:15.170 --> 0:12:20.230 grew up, how split was it, your household, your family, Browns, Bengals? 0:12:20.910 --> 0:12:24.550 When we lived in Zanesville, Ohio, we were Browns fans. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.580 And then my dad got transferred to Cincinnati, and then 0:12:27.620 --> 0:12:31.100 we became Bengals fans. But I kind of went kicking 0:12:31.140 --> 0:12:35.199 and screaming because the Bengals weren't any good. But they had, like, 0:12:35.260 --> 0:12:38.790 Paul Robinson. He was, I think, the Cactus Comet fan. 0:12:39.170 --> 0:12:42.000 He rushed for 1,000 yards. They had Greg Cook, who 0:12:42.059 --> 0:12:45.280 was going to be the next great quarterback out of 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.339 University of Cincinnati, Rookie of the Year. But after that, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.460 I would always go see the teams that came to 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.900 play the Bengals. And then the Bengals got competitive. Kenny 0:12:55.980 --> 0:12:59.900 Anderson was great. Boomer Sias and Joe Burrow. They've been fortunate. 0:12:59.980 --> 0:13:02.880 And they played, what, three of the closest Super Bowls 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:03.679 in history. 0:13:03.710 --> 0:13:04.620 Yeah. 0:13:05.410 --> 0:13:07.370 But I've always had a soft spot in my heart 0:13:07.410 --> 0:13:09.099 for the Browns because that was the team I grew 0:13:09.150 --> 0:13:13.600 up on. Leroy Kelly, Ernie Green, Jim Brown. I still 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.740 name probably the entire starting lineup offensively and defensively. But 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.000 I have relatives who live in Cleveland. And I know 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.780 when the Browns win, Cleveland wins. 0:13:25.340 --> 0:13:27.319 You asked Jason Garrett what team made you cry of 0:13:28.059 --> 0:13:30.020 any sport. Was it a football team that made you 0:13:30.070 --> 0:13:31.030 cry or baseball? 0:13:33.110 --> 0:13:36.429 I don't. I would get sad when the Reds would 0:13:36.570 --> 0:13:41.460 play the Oakland A's playoffs. I don't know if I cried, 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.599 but I do remember when the Reds were supposed to 0:13:46.620 --> 0:13:49.860 win and when they didn't win. The other Cincinnati teams, 0:13:49.900 --> 0:13:52.400 I don't know if I was, like the Cincinnati Royals 0:13:52.420 --> 0:13:54.980 weren't expected to win. They made me cry, I think, 0:13:55.020 --> 0:13:58.800 when they left, but I didn't have that moment where 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.579 But Jason Garrett's dad was on the staff of the 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.380 Cleveland Browns, and Brian Seip throws the interception in 1980 0:14:05.380 --> 0:14:08.390 in the corner of the end zone. And the Browns 0:14:08.410 --> 0:14:12.070 have had as much. They haven't had the heartbreak Buffalo's 0:14:12.110 --> 0:14:14.070 had because Buffalo's gone to the Super Bowl. But when 0:14:14.110 --> 0:14:19.600 you think about losses, Ernest Biner with the fumble, John 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:23.420 Elway with the drive, Brian Seip the interception, these are 0:14:23.460 --> 0:14:26.070 just naming a few. Then you throw in the Cleveland 0:14:26.110 --> 0:14:29.590 Indians where they got to the World Series. Man, I'm sorry, Cleveland. 0:14:29.610 --> 0:14:32.330 Well, but it's a fascinating topic because the Detroit Lions, 0:14:32.650 --> 0:14:35.230 they've been struggling. But then the basketball team does well. 0:14:35.890 --> 0:14:38.240 The hockey team does well in Detroit. The entire city 0:14:38.250 --> 0:14:41.660 of Cleveland, it does feel like Cleveland's ownership should get 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.080 more flack for this because. 0:14:43.780 --> 0:14:45.440 They don't put them in position to win. They make 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:46.620 bad contracts. 0:14:46.660 --> 0:14:50.040 But what you saw last night when you see those fans, 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:50.860 that's what you're talking about. 0:14:51.530 --> 0:14:53.570 Yeah, and that's what I've said on the show about 0:14:53.610 --> 0:14:57.130 Deshaun Watson. Stop being a baby. Stop being a victim here. 0:14:57.750 --> 0:15:00.350 And just go out and play. Because that fan base 0:15:00.390 --> 0:15:03.400 will root for you with the uniform you have on. 0:15:03.420 --> 0:15:06.320 They may not root for you, but so what? Go 0:15:06.380 --> 0:15:10.000 out there and prove you can play. Because the last 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.080 time we saw him play where we thought he was 0:15:12.140 --> 0:15:15.650 a legitimate starting quarterback was in Houston. And nobody's talking 0:15:15.690 --> 0:15:19.240 about Shador Sanders now. Now it's about Deshaun Watson. And 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.770 now you have a chance to at least be entertaining, competitive. 0:15:23.670 --> 0:15:28.210 Not an oh-woe-is-me team going into the meat of your 0:15:28.270 --> 0:15:32.110 schedule here. And they could end up 5-2 after seven games. 0:15:32.970 --> 0:15:36.050 If they make the playoffs, do you re-sign Deshaun Watson? 0:15:36.950 --> 0:15:39.140 I want to know what the numbers are with that. 0:15:40.220 --> 0:15:42.140 But you're going to be... If you get to... Their 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.160 over-under is now 7.5. They're getting to no-man's land when 0:15:46.180 --> 0:15:48.840 it comes... Now, they do have draft picks, but... Are 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.000 you going to use those draft picks, bundle, and try 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.130 to get your quarterback? And I think that would probably be. 0:15:56.430 --> 0:15:58.729