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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media.

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Speaker 2: Book Club Club.

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Speaker 3: Club book Club, book Club, ooblis oohuber ellis in the

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Speaker 3: book Club.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Cool Zone Media book Club, the

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Speaker 2: only book club where you don't have to do the

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Speaker 2: reading because I do it for you. And we're going

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Speaker 2: back to an older format. We're going back to the

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Speaker 2: way the book club started, which is me reading a

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Speaker 2: book I wrote to Robert.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Robert. We are returning to tradition.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Specifically, when the book club started, I read

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Speaker 2: a book called The Lamble Slaughter of the Lion, And

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Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to it if you'd like,

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Speaker 2: And you might want to before you listen to this,

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Speaker 2: but also you might have a different brain where you

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Speaker 2: can just jump into the sequel, in which case that's

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Speaker 2: great because the third book is finally going to come

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Speaker 2: out in this series, and so I thought, why not

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Speaker 2: read you all second one for free?

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Speaker 3: Excellent.

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Speaker 2: So the first book, The Lama Thought of the Lion,

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Speaker 2: had Danielle Kane and a bunch of her friends dealing

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Speaker 2: with a demon in a squatted town and then they're

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Speaker 2: on the run and then they're like, let's be the

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Speaker 2: punk rock Scooby Doo people. And that's my summation of it.

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Speaker 2: Robert M. I was going to pretend like you haven't

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Speaker 2: read this book, but I think you've read this book.

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Speaker 3: Yes I have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but now you get to hear it, so I

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Speaker 2: guess I'll just start it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've loved the Danielle Kine series, so

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Speaker 3: excited to be rereading Slash, listening to the second novella

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Speaker 3: in it really just waiting for you to get the

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Speaker 3: third one out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's being kickstarted right now.

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Speaker 3: Slightly harassing you over that. Good. Yeah, get in there

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Speaker 3: and donate, you motherfuckers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, the barrow will send what it may.

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Speaker 2: This was published by tour dot Com the number of

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Speaker 2: years ago, twenty eighteen. I don't know. You think I

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Speaker 2: would know, But that's not the part of the document

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Speaker 2: I have opened right now, Chapter one. The towering bursts

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Speaker 2: of flame that staggered their way across the empty black

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Speaker 2: horizon weren't helping my mood. I'd been dozing in the

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Speaker 2: back seat of the car, my head against Bryn's shoulder,

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Speaker 2: but the staccato, silent bursts were too eerie to sleep through.

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Speaker 2: Where the hell are we? I asked outside as far

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Speaker 2: as I could see were featureless planes, no stars in

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Speaker 2: the sky, just blackness, blackness, and fire. Hell's about the

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Speaker 2: word for it, Brynn said. She was gazing out the window,

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Speaker 2: her face lit a little by the interior lights of

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Speaker 2: the car, and a lot by the occasional streaks of

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Speaker 2: fire outside. A single thick black tattoo line cut its

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Speaker 2: way down her face from her short bangs to the

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Speaker 2: bridge of her nose, and her face was severe, even

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Speaker 2: more severe than usual. Or maybe I was just drowsy.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the passengers were silent, and we tore

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Speaker 2: down the road through all that darkness. It was gas flaring.

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Speaker 2: As I woke up more properly, I remembered, must be

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Speaker 2: in North Dakota, somewhere. Excess natural gas production beyond what

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Speaker 2: they've got the infrastructure for gets burned off. I'd never

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Speaker 2: seen it with my own eyes, those flames that stood

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Speaker 2: in monument to the wastefulness of civilization. My left shoulder

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Speaker 2: ached were thread, regular sewing thread held together a crowbar wound.

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Speaker 2: My right hand was sore still and modeled with supernatural

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Speaker 2: gray where an undead goat had bitten it. Behind us,

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Speaker 2: a thousand miles of Highway. Ago was nothing, dead bodies

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Speaker 2: and probably some investigators who wanted explanations. We couldn't really

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Speaker 2: give a demon killed those police officers, sir, It wasn't us.

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Speaker 2: They probably shouldn't have pulled out guns around a blood

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Speaker 2: red at three antler deer with obvious supernatural agility, So

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Speaker 2: whose fault was it? Really? No one would believe us

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Speaker 2: A week ago. I wouldn't have believed us. We couldn't

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Speaker 2: who might shelter us, of places that might have books

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Speaker 2: or witches who could teach us. Doomsday was convinced that

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Speaker 2: if we could make it to the Washington coast, we'd

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Speaker 2: eventually find people who could get us on a boat

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Speaker 2: to the islands off the coast of Canada. Vulture had

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Speaker 2: a Google map populated with disappearances and strange phenomenon we

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Speaker 2: no real plans, only chaos. This is how we're meant

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Speaker 2: to live. Thursday drove for sixteen hours straight, his fists

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Speaker 2: the fields of fire behind. Just as the sun edged

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Speaker 2: over the horizon behind us, Thursday pulled into a rest area,

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Speaker 2: quote to watch dawn, maybe eat something. But once the

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Speaker 2: us better rested, leaned against the car in the chilly

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Speaker 2: morning air, and watched that sunrise. If you stay up

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Speaker 2: Every time Vulture passed around a tiny bottle of orange

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Speaker 2: on them. He would have made a good stage magician.

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Speaker 2: He had the right kind of charm, and all his

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Speaker 2: motions were fluid, almost hypnotizing. He smiled easily, and even

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Speaker 2: though his smile rarely looked genuine, when he smiled, you

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Speaker 2: found yourself smiling too. Is this going to work out?

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Speaker 2: Brynn asked, breaking hours of silence. She was sitting on

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Speaker 2: top of the spray painted red old Honda Civic hatchback,

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Speaker 2: ripped at a pomegranate, casting its pulp onto the pavement.

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Speaker 2: Her arms were bare to the shoulder. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: on a long enough timeline, Doomsday said, no, but it'll

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Speaker 2: work out today. Even if she was only just now

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Speaker 2: learning to weave words into ritual magic, Doomsday had a

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Speaker 2: way of warping the world around her when she spoke.

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Speaker 2: What's more important, I asked, laying Low or our new career?

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Speaker 2: It was idle curiosity, nothing more. What mattered was our motion,

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Speaker 2: not our purpose. Low Doomsday said, find some demons, Vulture said.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, they looked at one another. They'd

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Speaker 2: known one another for how long years? I'd not known

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Speaker 2: them even a week? But do you know what I

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Speaker 2: did know?

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Speaker 3: Robert Evans that products and services also. I was trying

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Speaker 3: to think of something to say along the lines of

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Speaker 3: all of the gas burning off that you see when

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Speaker 3: you drive across certain parts of the rule. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: the oil and gas industry sponsor, I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: don't have anything for you.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's whatever sponsors us.

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Speaker 2: And we're back.

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Speaker 3: Could we be sponsored by like the kind of spirit

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Speaker 3: of vengeance as embodied by wildlife Margaret? Could that be

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Speaker 3: our sponsor? Do they have money?

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Speaker 2: So? I, well, okay, they could if they do some vengeance.

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Speaker 3: First, I'll have Sophie send an email.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the easiest way to reach the spirit of vengeance.

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Speaker 2: Somebody just drop it off to an elk. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what would happened if you asked for

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Speaker 2: and put it on an elk's antlers. Your life would be.

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Speaker 3: In Nobody knows. Nobody knows. And elks seem pretty chill.

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Speaker 3: That's what they're always seemed like, mega fauna, terrifying, mega fauna.

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Speaker 2: I secretly don't believe in moose.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not real. Yeah, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Real conspiracy, no Canadian neighbors. Yeah, but elks, elks are real.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, what is reel and deeply off putting. Our camels

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Speaker 3: were like you see camels in movies and like, you know,

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Speaker 3: real ass camel, it's like, what the fuck? That's like

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Speaker 3: a death the size of an elephant, Like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 3: This is what people were right, of course, these things

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Speaker 3: like you couldn't fight these things on horseback, like no

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, all right, that's the story. Yeah, find

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Speaker 2: some demons. While laying low, Vulture said it was his

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Speaker 2: way of conceding, the more we know about magic, the

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Speaker 2: more equipped will be to handle whatever comes at us.

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Speaker 2: Doomsday said, so both. I asked, how the hell will

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Speaker 2: we do both magic, Vulture said, grinning. Brynn, probably delirious,

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Speaker 2: the car. At least that's what I think he said.

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Speaker 2: It's what I would have said. Thursday would have driven

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Speaker 2: the whole way if we'd have let him, but his

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Speaker 2: protestations were scarcely audible. As we helped him up into

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Speaker 2: Brynn took shotgun, and we ran away from the encroaching day.

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Speaker 2: I've spent most of my life in the flyover States,

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Speaker 2: and their beauty is largely unmatched throughout the rest of

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Speaker 2: the country, but sometimes the endless expanse is too endless.

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Speaker 2: and he snorted softly with his face against the glass.

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Speaker 2: Thursday was wiped out. Doomsday was wanted for murder more

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Speaker 2: sure of it, but I didn't want her to. She

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Speaker 2: think I was going to end up a trucker. When

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Speaker 2: i'd met. Even when that thing happened when I was nineteen,

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Speaker 2: Even after that, I had assumed i'd wind up a trucker.

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Speaker 2: Open Roads, Solitude, books on tape, decent pay who wouldn't

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Speaker 2: old enough for the job, I didn't want it, mostly

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Speaker 2: because I didn't want any job. I found my niche

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Speaker 2: as a wanderer, and driving on some company schedule just

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Speaker 2: wasn't going to suit me. Still, I was pretty sure

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Speaker 2: I was one hell of a long haul driver. We

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Speaker 2: crossed into Montana and I kept driving. Glacier National Park

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Speaker 2: occasional small town speed trap seemed like a better bet

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Speaker 2: than the highway patrol who might have an all points

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Speaker 2: to look for us. Some British man was narrating a

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Speaker 2: fantasy book at us from the stereo vultures doing, and

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Speaker 2: the sun was just starting to get low. Brinn was asleep,

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Speaker 2: Everyone in the back seat was quiet, hadn't said a

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Speaker 2: word in an hour. The sun was just starting to

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Speaker 2: There was no traffic to run into, just an endless

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Speaker 2: to hitchhike with five people under normal circumstances. The thing

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Speaker 2: us formed a little pentagon. You say what I say,

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Speaker 2: Doomsday said, But like in a round, I'll say a line.

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Speaker 2: We said back. We began. We ask for good strangers.

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Speaker 2: We ask that ill eyes pass us over. We ask

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Speaker 2: But after Vulture said the last line, a silence fell

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Speaker 2: Doomsday said, just a spell for good luck with strangers,

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Speaker 2: what could go wrong? Well, Robert, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: Products and services that support this podcast, one of which

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Speaker 3: is the seat belt, which, Margaret, because you brought that up,

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Speaker 3: I had to look it up.

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Speaker 3: Shockingly, seat belt or air bags sorry, airbags had not

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: I am really took this a while on that one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this scene of flipping the car is based

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Speaker 3: I was guessing that a lot of this whole road

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Speaker 3: ship part was very very much based on.

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Speaker 2: Your Yeah, totally, and it was definitely like a nineteen

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Speaker 2: So seat belts, air bags and whatever else wear ads are.

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Speaker 2: An suv picked us up not ten minutes after we'd

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Speaker 2: I mean both have happened to me before, but usually

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Speaker 2: killing husband killing murderer. I actually can't blame anyone who

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Speaker 2: She asked, after the four of us got in the

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Speaker 2: me a clear answer, I don't get in their car. Pendleton,

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Speaker 2: She said, that'll get you close to Glacier, but I'm

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Speaker 2: That's fine, I said, we'll figure it out from there.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the ride anytime, She said, know why I

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Speaker 3: I kept.

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Speaker 2: Why is that? I asked, God told me too, She said,

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Speaker 2: there are some young folks who look just like y'all

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Speaker 2: and Pendleton. They run the library ever since the county

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Speaker 2: Never would have thought I'd make friends with someone with

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Speaker 2: all right. Figured you'd be all right too. The smile

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Speaker 2: one and ah soon.

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Speaker 3: it's very It all has the vibe of like four

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Speaker 3: in the morning after you've been driving all night, which

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Speaker 3: is also the most like occult time of day, Like

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Speaker 3: it's the most It's the most I ever believe in magic.

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Speaker 3: It's why all the things that are now part of,

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Speaker 3: like the horrible fascist movement we live under. It's where

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Speaker 3: the beauty. Like there was a time when like you

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Speaker 3: could just listen to Coast to Coast AM and a

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Speaker 3: man would talk about Bigfoot in the aliens. Yeah, four

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Speaker 3: point thirty in the morning as the sun rose over

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Speaker 3: the desert, and it was a magical thing to experience. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they've taken that away from us, Margaret.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's like, Yeah, what happened to just the person who

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Speaker 2: listens to that also has a lot of VHS tapes

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Speaker 2: of very strange things in their very cheap apartment they

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Speaker 2: share with four people, you know. Yeah, and that is

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Speaker 2: a good thing. That's a good kind of person to be.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And I I like the like, I like the altered

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Speaker 2: how it's like drugs to just stay up too late,

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Speaker 2: and like also just to drive all day, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a nice feeling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been too long since I've like lived in

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Speaker 3: a car for an extended period of time and that, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can really tell in you're writing that you've had

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Speaker 3: a lot of your kind of seminal life moments behind

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Speaker 3: the wheel of a vehicle and a long, proud highway

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Speaker 3: behind you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then also just like getting into the car

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Speaker 2: with strangers. I was thinking about this recently. I haven't

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Speaker 2: hitchhiked in like twenty years, but I used to do

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Speaker 2: it a lot. And then I sometimes I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know whether I'm not trying to encourage listeners to

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Speaker 2: necessarily go hitchhiking, but that's probably just me aging, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's kind of depressing to me the degree

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Speaker 3: to which some of these things that were a big

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Speaker 3: part of my life are just like not really done anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like there's some hitchhiking, but I'm also talking about stuff

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Speaker 3: like CouchSurfing, Yeah, getting killed by Airbnb and yeah, like

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff like there used to be. There

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Speaker 3: used to be a lot more of. I think wisdom

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Speaker 3: is a rule comes from spending a lot of time

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Speaker 3: with people you've never met before who have lived completely

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Speaker 3: different lives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the world is increasingly designed to make sure

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Speaker 3: nobody has that experience.

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Speaker 2: That is a totally because the people, Yeah, the people

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Speaker 2: have picked me up pitch hiking, or the people who's

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Speaker 2: like houses I've stayed at, or like the friend of

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Speaker 2: a friend of a family who I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: go hang out with and like go get a drink

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Speaker 2: at a bar with that I don't have anything in

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Speaker 2: common with. No, You're right, that is people need that, yep.

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