1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: And welcome in. Lake Kick Is Live. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: In his Sunday Night January thirtieth, Fear of Our Lord 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, working side by side with the NFL again. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Is we are all too happy to do as long 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: as they cooperate. Translation halftime heat edition of lake Kick Live. 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: So we're gonna go hurry up. Very very tempo based 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: show tonight. Brian Kelly. I don't know what sauce he found, 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: but he found some sauce. Brian Kelly has been unleashed, 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: total new look on Live. I kind of the forty 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 2: five year old guy that just purchased a brand new 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: SOB and he's ready to go. But what is this 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: ultimately gonna become down to LSU Because he's only been 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: there like fifteen minutes, it already feels like fifteen years. 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Ole Miss kind of back again. I guess you could say. 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart and Michael Trigg. They finally make it official there, 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: so we got to talk about that the old Miss. 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: They've seen some coaches walk. 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Out the door, but they just saw a key combination, 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: especially a quarterback. Part of that key combination walk in 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: the door. Jim Harbaugh rumors all over the place, Could 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: it be the Vikings, Could it still be Michigan? Could 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: it be Miami even after the Dolphins promised us no. 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: We will discuss and the Q and A talking about 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: some bad cultures in college football. 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: How does that happen? How do you cure a bad culture? 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? When you say there's a 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: bad culture here or there? 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: Texas football had culture problems over the last decade. 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Well, we'll discuss it. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being a part of the 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: show tonight, whether you're watching live or the replay, click 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: that like button, subscribe to the channel. 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: That's really all we ask. We've also got you know what. 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna save it for a couple of minutes from now, 35 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: but we have some big things, some exciting things coming 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: with the show. We are headed down to Fort Lauderdale. 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna head down there early in the morning. I'm 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: getting down there as early as I possibly can and 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: staying as long as I can. 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: We've got our signing Day show coming up Wednesday. 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be on this very channel YouTube, The twenty 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: four to seven Sports YouTube channel will be packed Wednesday, 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: so make sure you're tuned in We're gonna have a 44 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: ton of folks down there, but we will have a 45 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: weird schedule this week, and then we'll be back to 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: on what normal the following week called Super Bowl Week. 47 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: Remember we go Tuesday and Thursday. So anyway, follow me 48 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram at late kick Josh, I'll remind you 49 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: of all that. 50 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Let's dive inm. 51 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly has not coached a game at LSU yet, 52 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: but already Brian Kelly has kind of done something that 53 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: has taken a lot of people by surprise. He's done 54 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: something you're not supposed to be able to do. Really, 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: he has forced everyone to take a side on Brian 56 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Kelly before Brian Kelly has even not only coached a game, 57 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly hasn't even operated a spring practice at LSU yet. 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: And I want you to think about how crazy that 59 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: is to. 60 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Say, Brian Kelly jumps right smack dab in the middle 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: of the SEC, a storied tradition, rich conference, a powerhouse 62 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: brand that just saw two of its participants play for 63 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: a national championship a month after they played for an 64 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: SEC championship. We're three weeks removed from Georgia versus Alabama, 65 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: for a national championship in Indianapolis, and all people are 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: talking about down here is Brian Kelly. All people are 67 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: talking about nationally is Brian Kelly. I don't know what 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: kind of grade tranquilizer dard they were shooting in his 69 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: neck at Notre Dame, but whatever they were shooting, Brian Kelly, 70 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: suffice that to say, is off his medication now, and 71 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: it's lucky he's got. 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: An entire new release on life. 73 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: Look at this if you're watching on YouTube for those 74 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: of you aren't familiar and you're not following the day 75 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: to day of college football right now, that's not photoshopped. 76 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: This is not green screen. 77 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: There's nothing that director Colin or producer Jesse have done 78 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: to manufacture this footage that is actually Brian Kelly. Yeah, 79 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: the same rigid, stuffy Brian Kelly you got used to 80 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: watching up in South Bend. Nah, that's not the same 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. You know, I know that's a different Brian Kelly. 82 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: He may be the same on the outside, but someone 83 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: opened the control panel on his back and they had 84 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: to rewire something. So they've had a lot of visitors 85 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: coming in there on the recruiting trail they've had obviously 86 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: a lot of transfer portal news. LSU's been a huge 87 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: mover in the transfer portal. But everyone's getting a good 88 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: laugh out of this right now. I'll tell you on 89 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: our end, I'm really excited because, as you know, eventually 90 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: that guy is. 91 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Going to coach football games at LSU. 92 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: And see, since we work at CBS, I was able 93 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: to press some buttons and pull some strings. 94 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: And some of you saw it on Twitter earlier this morning. 95 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: For those of you. 96 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Who didn't, we got our hands exclusively on the early 97 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: Alabama versus LSU promo for this fall. It's going to 98 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: be the first week of November, but right here in 99 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: the last week in January, we've got it to show 100 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: to you. 101 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: Roll It column. 102 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: This is where I like to incorporate what I call 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: the Cat protocol and the Castaway protocol is this. Can 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: you imagine if, like Chuck Nolan flash Tom Hanks in 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: the movie Castaway, you just got marooned on a desert 106 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: island for a few years, and so let's say twenty sixteen, 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: you just go missing, and the last memory you have 108 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: of college football is, yeah, Nick Saban's running things at Alabama. 109 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: But you've got less miles at LSU and then imagine 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: coming back, and so they bring you from out in 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: the middle of the Pacific Ocean. You lost Wilson, but 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: you gained your freedom back. And now you come home 113 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: and you turn on your college football and you see 114 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly doing this, and Nick Saban's still there doing that. 115 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: What world would you think you had returned to? In fact, 116 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: you don't have to be gone five years. If you've 117 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: just been gone five months and you came back, what 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: world have you returned to? Look, Brian Kelly was sharp 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: enough to know one thing. Brian Kelly was sharp enough 120 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: to know the playbook that worked for him at Notre 121 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: Dame was not the same playbook that he was going 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: to take south. He was sharp enough to know that 123 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: now he is still feeling his way, and he's still 124 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: feeling that accent out, and he's still feeling those dance 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: moves out. But a lot of these are just ornaments 126 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: on the tree. The tree stays the same. There's a 127 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: lot about Brian Kelly that's going to stay the same. 128 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: This is not a rookie head coach. This is not 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: a hot shot coordinator who has to invent everything about himself. 130 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly's not reinventing the core philosophies of his approach 131 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: to the game of football. And Brian Kelly is a 132 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: proven winner. But what he hasn't done is he has 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: not recruited in the kind of waters that you recruit 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: in if you're at LSU. But see, he was sharp 135 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: enough to know that, so he knew I may do 136 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: a bunch of different things, but what I can't do 137 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: is the exact same thing. Remember we had him on 138 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: the show a couple of years ago or last year, 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: I guess it was, and I was talking to him 140 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: on Lake Kick about how different it is to recruit 141 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: at Notre Dame. 142 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: He was very brutally honest about it. 143 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: He just flat out said, there's a lot of kids 144 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: that you know, you guys down south. Since you're in 145 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: Nashville in the SEC they can go after kids. We 146 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: can't even waste our time going after Well now he 147 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: can knows that it takes a different approach, so he's feeling. 148 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: His way out. 149 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: But what this has drawn is it has drawn out 150 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of haters. But there's a difference in the 151 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: garden variety hater versus the nervous hater and I've sensed 152 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: a little nervous hating on Brian Kelly. What people wanted, 153 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: especially rivals of LSU, what they really wanted at Auburn 154 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: or an m or Alabama or anywhere else around here Florida. 155 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: What they really wanted was they wanted Notre Dame Brian 156 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 2: Kelly to come in because right or wrong, most people 157 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: down in the South were confident they could handle Notre 158 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Dame Brian Kelly. Notre Dame Brian Kelly was going to 159 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: have a good, solid program. They were gonna have good, 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: solid recruiting classes that have a good, solid effort. They 161 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: were never gonna get over any hump, and they were 162 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: going to be a good, solid eight or nine win 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: team that you could get a dub against when you 164 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: needed it in route to your own path to Atlanta 165 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: or your own path to the college football playoff. And 166 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: now there's a little nervous energy around here that is 167 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: being masked as haterade because a lot of folks have 168 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: always known the only thing that separated Brian Kelly from 169 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: making serious noise in the college football playoff even up north, 170 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: was a different caliber of athlete. There was nothing that 171 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: was short from the neck up on Brian Kelly. There 172 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: was nothing lacking in his coaching acumen. It's nothing like that. 173 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: Now. 174 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: Brian Kelly knows the same thing about the game of 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: football that a lot of coaches in the SEC who 176 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: have won titles. Note the difference is he also knows 177 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: they got better players, or at least they had better 178 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: players than I did. But now I'm at LSU, and 179 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: now I've got access to this same talent. I'm playing 180 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: a level playing field with Georgia and Florida and Alabama 181 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: in Texas, A and M And at this point, if 182 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: I don't win. 183 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: It's my fault. I don't look in the mirror and say, Brian, 184 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: you're a good coach. Boy. 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: These academic requirements, boy, they're just restraining you. That's not 186 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: the case anymore. And what you're seeing right now is 187 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: a kind of excited energy. Yeah, he's still feeling his 188 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: way out, but it's an excited energy. And see the 189 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: nervousness from some of the other rival programs around the SEC. 190 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: It's not intimidation, it's just and Brian Kelly, you were 191 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: supposed to come in here and know your role, to 192 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: come in here and be stuffy you're supposed to come 193 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: in here and take a secondary position to the likes 194 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: of Texas A and M or the likes of floor 195 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: in an Alabama. Look, it's not that he's passed any 196 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: of those programs. Far be it from me to say that. 197 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 2: But if you have a Brian Kelly that still carries 198 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: the football weight that he did notre dame widely respected 199 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: as a football mind, if he comes in here and 200 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: brings that and packages it with an elite roster instead 201 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: of just a really good roster, If Brian Kelly packages 202 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: football acumen with a top notch recruiting apparatus, and if 203 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: they're really handling the portal the way they should, and 204 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: if they become a destination and they don't take a 205 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: back seat the way that some people initially thought they 206 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: would when he comes in, well that's a problem for 207 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people. Now, this is very very early. Okay, 208 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: one way or the other, you'll forget about all this stuff. 209 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: One way or the other. They'll either win in the 210 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: fall and in subsequent years they'll win and no one 211 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: will talk about this period, or they will lose, and 212 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: then a lot of people may bring this foolish up 213 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: and then people like me will say, that's not the 214 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: reason they're losing football games. 215 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they're losing football games because of ABCDE. 216 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: So this is fodder right now. Remember when he bastardized 217 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: the old Southern accent. Seems like it was an eternity ago, 218 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: and that was really only about a month or so ago. 219 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Time moves really slow in the irregular season, or as 220 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the casuals would call it, off season. That's where we 221 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: are right now. 222 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: But we will get the spring, and then we will 223 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: get to SEC media Days. 224 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: Which will be a circus, by the way, I just 225 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: realized that. 226 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: And then we'll eventually open the season, and then we'll 227 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: get to see LSU football under Brian Kelly. But right now, 228 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: some things it's important to note will not change. Don't 229 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: fool yourself. This isn't a new Brian Kelly. This is 230 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: a new veneer on the same Brian Kelly. When it 231 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: comes time to play football, you'll see the same principles 232 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: in play that you've seen for a long time at 233 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. By the way, those were good enough to 234 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: win at a fairly high level. The only thing they 235 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: weren't good enough to do is they weren't good enough 236 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: to go up against teams with a thirty percent more 237 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: powerful roster. Well, if he can keep that and then 238 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: he can add their eighty percent on the roster talent level, 239 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: then you got a player at LSU. So I'm sitting 240 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: in the production suite slash room. 241 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: Is it a swite? I don't know. We just got 242 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: electricity back today. I wouldn't quite call it a suite yet. 243 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: But I was sitting in one of the rooms here 244 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: which is now lit and air conditioned, with Producer Jesse 245 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: a little while ago, and Zach, one of our production executives, 246 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: walks in, not a production assistant, we call them production 247 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: executives here and he says, I got a story for you, 248 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: and I say, lay it on me. He says, you know, 249 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: we have severe weather from time to time in Nashville. 250 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: Could have some flooding this week for that matter, he said. 251 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: I was at Academy Sports and Outdoors and it dawned 252 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: on me we got to buy homes because one of 253 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: the most overlooked bits of protocol in severe weather safety, 254 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: which Producer Jesse has shirped but Zach did not, is 255 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: you need to protect your head. And unlike Producer Jesse, 256 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: you need to have head protection for everybody who's going 257 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: to be in your domicile, not just one person, not 258 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: just me, not just the man in the mirror. 259 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: And so Zach said, you know who had it. 260 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Academy Sports and Outdoors had it seamless, right there, seamless segue. 261 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: Academy Sports and Outdoors the only partner on this program, 262 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: and Academy Sports and Outdoors, with very few exceptions, has 263 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: everything that you could possibly need in your life, not 264 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: just himmy's baseball practice, but in life. Gl See, I 265 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: haven't really gone this deep with you, but let's be 266 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: real now that we've been given that piece of information. 267 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: Is Academy Sports and Outdoors playing an integral role in 268 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: saving lives in this country? 269 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the answer is no. I think the 270 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: answer is yes. 271 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: And you can also, it stands to reason, use that 272 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: helmet to go bicycling, to go I don't care go 273 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: fishing with it. 274 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: It's your helmet, your helmet. You do what you want 275 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: to do with it. 276 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: But Academy Sports and Outdoors is a relationship that we've 277 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: had for the I guess better part of a year. 278 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Now. We're gonna have an announcement coming up with them. 279 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: But as for now, what you need to know is 280 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: as we head into spring, and believe it or not, 281 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: for our friends up in the Northeast, once you dig out, 282 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: there is light around the corner, and we do call 283 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: that spring with a capital S. Academy Sports and Outdoors 284 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: will have all that gear you need when you eventually 285 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: get to get back outside and you get to put 286 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: that cold weather gear away, and you get to get 287 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: the biking equipment, and you get to get the baseball 288 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: equipment and the new running shorts. 289 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Check check check. They got it all. 290 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors. 291 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: And if you don't, and this is imperative, you don't 292 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: have an Academy Sports and Outdoors in your backyard, just go. 293 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: To Academy dot com. 294 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: You guys continue to light up the in box with 295 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: all means of different pictures of receipts for. 296 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: All sorts of different things. 297 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: And you know, Zach's story was featured in the ad 298 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: read tonight, But I think you guys do a. 299 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Better job of this than me. So you know what 300 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: I'll probably do. 301 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: I'll probably just start perusing for some of the better 302 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: Academy stories and I'll just use those for the ad 303 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: reads because again, like I said, it beats just read 304 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: and copy off a piece of paper. And look, the 305 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: folks at Academy like it too. They said, forget what 306 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: we sent you, just keep doing that. So we're gonna 307 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: keep doing that as long as you guys keep shopping 308 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: at a CA ATAM sports and outdoors. I appreciate you 309 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: guys being tuned in. A lot of you were asking 310 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: for different mood trackers. Yes, the mood trackers are all coming. 311 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: We are going to knock dozens of mood trackers off 312 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: the board, so just hang tight on that. But right now, 313 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: we got to talk about Old Miss. So we had 314 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: a question earlier today. I put out the call. You 315 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: guys responded and there was a question about Ole Miss, 316 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: which is echoing thousands of questions that we've had about 317 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Old Miss. So we're showing you on the monitor right now. 318 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: Question came from Marissa, longtime friend of the program. We 319 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: love Marissa, she said, with Jackson Dart now officially with 320 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: Ole Miss, which is true. 321 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it in a second. 322 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on what the offense will look 323 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: like in twenty twenty two. Can't overstate how huge this is. 324 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: You can't overstate how all l over the cliff, if 325 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: you will. Lane Kiffin and that coaching staff became on 326 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: landing Jackson Darton. 327 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: To their credit, they got it done. 328 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: As you heard us talk about for the majority of 329 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: last week, Chris Hummer at twenty four to seven Sports 330 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: Are Chris Hummer was reporting that that was getting closer 331 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: and closer and closer, and it really felt like that 332 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: was where the smart money was for about the last 333 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: two weeks. So now that we have it official and 334 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: it is official, Jackson Dart is an Old Miss rebel. 335 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Michael Trigg the tight End also, as expected, follows him 336 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: to Old Miss. Now we can talk about what kind 337 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: of impact it has on Old Miss and what kind 338 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: of impact it has overall in the SEC West, because 339 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: keep in mind what we have in the SEC West. 340 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: This is like this is the deep end of the 341 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: deep end of the pool. 342 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Over at the YMCA. 343 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: They have like a three foot but then they have 344 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: a nine foot, but then they have a fifteen foot, 345 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: and you think, when you're in the nine foot section, 346 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: that's the deep end. 347 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: It's like the mid section, there's a deeper end. 348 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: This is the fifteen foot pool in college football the 349 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: SEC West right now, and Lane Kiffen is watching a 350 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: ton walk out the door. He's watching Matt Carrall walk 351 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: out the door. He's watching coaches walk. 352 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: Out the door. And now he brings in the key piece. 353 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: I would argue, even above and beyond the coaching replace, 354 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: it's the key piece at quarterback in Jackson Dark. When 355 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: I say key, I mean what they're gonna need to 356 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: try and replicate what they just did. We had them 357 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: in the JP Pole our own internal power ratings. We 358 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: had them in the top ten a vast majority of 359 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: the year. This was one of the more undersung stories 360 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: in college football last year, only because they lost to 361 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: Bama early and so people realized they're gonna need bamadal 362 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: loose twice if they're gonna go to Atlanta, Otherwise they're 363 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: probably gonna get boxed out. But that should not deter 364 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: you from acknowledging what they did. At least it didn't 365 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: on this show. But then a lot of that moves on. 366 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: So you know as well as I do, because I 367 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: feeleded a lot of dms and emails from you guys. 368 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: A lot of you thought one hit wonder Let's see 369 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: what Kiffin does without filling the blank Matt corral. Let's 370 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: see what he does without those coordinators. Let's see what 371 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: he does without this and without that. That's what they're 372 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: going to play the games for this fall. But Marissa 373 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: just asks, what will the offense look like? I have 374 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: a lot less doubt, a lot less trepidation about what 375 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: that offense is going to look like now that they've 376 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: got those key pieces in there, because keep in mind, guys, 377 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: this is no promise. But keep in mind, the transfer 378 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: portal is not closed. 379 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: It's not over. You're gonna have a little. 380 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: Moratorium which is starting about right now, and then we'll 381 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: have spring practice. 382 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: But then that thing's going to open back up. 383 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: And now, unlike this previous window, if you will, when 384 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: the transfer portal opens back up and you see a 385 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: lot more movement, those wide receivers or running backs or 386 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: offensive linemen, whatever the case may be, that go into 387 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: the portal after spring, they're going to go in there 388 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: knowing that Lane Kiffen has a quarterback that he can 389 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: win with again at Old Miss, which makes that an 390 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: infinitely more attractive destination. 391 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: So you never know. The roster situations are always fluid. 392 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: You never know how many more they can take or 393 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: they want to take it, they're looking to take. But Marissa, 394 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: to answer your question, it's nothing but good news for 395 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: Old miss And then as it relates to the SEC 396 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: West picture, it just reinforces the point that we've made 397 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: so many times. Here are not enough wins to go 398 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: around simple mathematics. I don't care if every one of 399 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: these programs are operating at as high level as you 400 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: expect them to, someone is going to be a four 401 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: lost team that's really good. Arkansas this past year is 402 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: a perfect example of what can happen in the SEC. 403 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: Arkansas finished nine to four. Arkansas was one of the 404 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: better teams in the country, just wired to wire. If 405 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: I were to take Arkansas and give them Boston College's 406 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: schedule or Cincinnati's schedule, they would have been a player, 407 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: really really late in the year. They would have been 408 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: in the playoff conversation really late in the year. But 409 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: because they play in the SEC, they think about this. 410 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: They won nine games, and they played both participants in 411 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: the National Championship Game in Georgia and Alabama. Every year 412 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: you got to play A and M. Now they beat them. 413 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: Hats off, but you got to do it every year. 414 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: You got to play LSU and Auburn every year. It's 415 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: tough to meet grinder. And if you don't have it 416 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: at quarterback, you do not upset your way to the 417 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. You do not do it, you know, 418 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: on the back of high turnover margin like Iowa was 419 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: trying to do in the Big Ten this past year. 420 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: You may do it for a month, you may do 421 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: it for three weeks. You're not gonna do that for 422 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 2: seven or eight games. 423 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: You're just not. And so you've got to have it 424 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: at quarterback. 425 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: That's what you have to have to have a fighting chance. 426 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: And so all miss at the very least they give 427 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: themselves a fighting chance. That's exciting to watch. 428 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: Though. Now let's see what the ripple effect is. All right, 429 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: there's some other things going on. 430 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to hit everything tonight and trying to do 431 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: it in an expeditious manner. What about this whole deal 432 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: at Michigan. What about this whole deal with Jim Harbaugh? 433 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: So at Michigan. Right now, let's look at the question 434 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: from Chris here. He said, what are your thoughts on 435 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: the latest Harbaugh to the NFL rumors. I think it's 436 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: gonna happen. That's what I think. 437 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Now. 438 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know which place is going to be the 439 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: landing spot, but I think it's pretty obvious at this point. 440 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: I saw Dave Biddle the other day from buck Nuts 441 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: put out something that I think I concur with. He said, 442 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: it's not a question of whether Jim Harball wants to 443 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: go to the NFL. Feels like it's more of a 444 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: question of whether an NFL franchise will have Jim Harbaugh. 445 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: I think this will be made a lot clearer down 446 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: the road. But if you put a pin on this date, 447 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, January thirtieth and twenty ninth and twenty eighth, 448 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: last week or so, I think that's where it's. 449 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: Going to turn out. 450 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: We've ended up being, and that's where it's going to 451 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: turn out Michigan has ended up being. 452 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: They're in a. 453 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: Position ward manual the ad up there in the entire administration. 454 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: You never know what's going on behind the scenes. You 455 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: never know how much communication there is behind the scenes. 456 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: But I guarantee you that's gonna end up being reality. 457 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: And so there are reports out, and there have been 458 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: reports out the last couple of days. Sam Webb on 459 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: The Michigan Insider, which is our twenty four to seven 460 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: Michigan site, has confirmed that, of course there is mutual interest, 461 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: confirmed by multiple outlets now between the Vikings and Jim Harbaugh. 462 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: They've had reportedly exploratory talks. It seems like they're probably 463 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: gonna meet in person this week. So anyway, it's obvious 464 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: there's mutual interest between Jim Harbaugh and the NFL. 465 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: And then you got rumors today. 466 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: All this is unconfirmed, but it's widely held speculation that 467 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: there is mutual interest maybe between Miami and Jim Harbaugh. 468 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: Funny if you've been paying attention to what's been said 469 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: out of Miami over the past month compared to what 470 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: you're hearing out of Miami today, So what's happening here? 471 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna be selfish for a second. We're a 472 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: college football show. 473 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: So if Jim Harbaugh leaves, once he hits the exit door, 474 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: we on this show are pretty much done with Jim Harbaugh. 475 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: That's no disrespect. But we are a college show. We 476 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: don't delve into the pro game a whole lot. So 477 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: our next question immediately becomes, who in the world is 478 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: going to be the head coach at Michigan. And I 479 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: was over on the board earlier on the Michigan Insider, 480 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: and that's of course a very popular topic and has 481 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: been since these rumors were first whispered. And I'm going 482 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: to tell you, I'm going to reiterate what I think, 483 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: and I don't know where they're gonna go. Michigan oftentimes 484 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: has their own operational. 485 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Way of doing things. 486 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: But I would not go a first time hire at 487 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: Michigan because I don't believe I have to. I believe 488 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: the stature of that job as such that I can 489 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: have my pick from several qualified candidates. 490 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: With proven head coaching track records. 491 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: And so you could think that that's half Lee, or 492 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: you can think that's Matt Campbell, or you can fill 493 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: in the blank there. But I know there's going to 494 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: be some push internally maybe to keep an insider on board, 495 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: like a Josh Gaddis on board, because then you have 496 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: continuity with the staff if you value that. 497 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: It's your program to run, it's not my program to run. 498 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: But I really just from a thirty thousand foot standpointer, 499 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: it's probably more than thirty thousand feet, to be honest 500 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: with you, Between Nashville and Arbor. But from where I sit, 501 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: that block m there the profile of that program over 502 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: the last decade. When it is, when's it ever been higher? 503 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: When's that ever been a more attractive job? I mean, 504 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: credit Jim Harbaugh. If he leaves, he's riding out on 505 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: the crest of a wave. This is not a trough. 506 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: This is a crest of a wave. And that's an 507 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: attractive program. You've broken that sort of invincible seeming veneer 508 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: of the Ohio state curtain that had just engulfed you. 509 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: You won the Big Ten championships, so a lot of 510 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: things that people thought Michigan wasn't going to be able 511 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: to do anymore ignorantly, they just did a bunch of them. 512 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: You can go find a proven head coach, and that's 513 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: where the attention is going to be. And look, I 514 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: know a lot of people probably watch this all play 515 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: out and say, well, you know, Michigan's got to wait 516 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: to see what Jim Harball is going to do. 517 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: No, they don't. 518 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: They'd be complete morons if they were waiting for Jim 519 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: Harball to see what he's going to do. You get 520 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: your list, you do your due diligence, You work the 521 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 2: back channels, and you make sure you've got every wheel 522 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: greased that you need to have greased to where if 523 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: Jim Harball walks in your office in five minutes, throws 524 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: up the deuce emoji and walks out, you're already on 525 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: the phone and you're already ten miles down a twenty 526 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: mile road of what it takes to get your replacement 527 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: in there so that you can seamlessly transition administrations. 528 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: That's where Michigan's has got to be. 529 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: And look if Harball walks in and says I'm staying, 530 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: then that's good. 531 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: All you do is you go. That's good. Jim. I 532 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: never guided you for a second. 533 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: I absolutely never doubted that you were gonna you were 534 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: gonna leave us. That's great, and nothing's lost at that point. 535 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: But many they better have their ducks in a row, 536 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: and I think they probably do. 537 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: Let's get one more question here. Uh, this is a 538 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: really good one. 539 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: So Jason asked earlier today, what is a bad culture 540 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: in college football? Example, it was said that Texas has 541 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: had a bad culture for a while, and they have 542 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: to be clear they have. It's a good question, though, Jason, 543 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: because a lot of people stop there a lot of 544 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: people stop and they say they got culture problems. 545 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: What do you mean, Well, you know it's just rotten there. 546 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Well, it's just not good vibes. Okay. 547 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: Are we just gonna stay arbitrary or we're gonna nail 548 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: down some specific reasons. 549 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: So here's what I mean. 550 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: Anyone else can mean what they mean when I tell 551 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: you Texas, for example, when we say Texas has had 552 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: culture issues. To me, it's like this. If you've ever 553 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: been driving a car, this happens a lot in rental cars, 554 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: for example. You drive it, you back it down the driveway, 555 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: you pull it out of the parking lot, and it looks. 556 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: Like it should, and everything's filled out on the paper. 557 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: Something's not right though, and then you look down and 558 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: you realize, oh, I got the E break on. That 559 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: has been Texas football, That's been any kind of program 560 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: that's trying to operate with a bad culture around it. 561 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: It looks like it should. 562 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 2: That logo looks great, that stadium looks great, and everything 563 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: looks immaculate, but there's just not something right on the inside. Now, 564 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: when you're driving the carts, as easy as releasing the 565 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: E break, when you're running a football program. You don't 566 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: get that way overnight, and you don't get yourself out 567 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: of being that way overnight. But culture problems oftentimes pop 568 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: up when you have the necessary evil of big money 569 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: people being around your program whose only merit to be 570 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: around your program lies in their net worth. Steve Sarkesian's 571 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: at Texas because he is a brilliant offensive mind. Harry 572 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: Booster over here is around Texas because his uncle handed 573 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: him an oil fortune, and he donates a disproportionate amount 574 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: per year to the University of Texas, and he has asked, 575 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: then exchanged to be given access to practice, and he 576 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: wants to know what's happening at quarterback position at least 577 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: twenty four hours before the Austin Statesman does. 578 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: That's not a good thing. 579 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: But here's the problem. It's tough to turn that kind 580 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: of money down. You need it when you're going to 581 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: build like they build, when you're going to recruit like 582 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: they recruit, when you're gonna market like they market. 583 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: That stuff's not done pro bono. 584 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: You got to pay a lot of money to be 585 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: able to sit on the kind of throne that Texas 586 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: Athletics sits on. It is such a balancing act, and 587 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: the bigger the program, the harder the balancing act is. 588 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: This is why the model that you want to try 589 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: and follow is of course exhibited by Nick Saban at Alabama. 590 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: Because Alabama was Texas football. 591 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: Alabama had the exact same problems that Texas has had 592 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: for a little while. You had people who had no 593 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: business being within a one hundred foot poles reach of 594 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: that football program with direct access to it because of 595 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: either relationships they had, or last names they had, or 596 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: paychecks that they were willing to write in exchange for access. 597 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: And Alabama for a long time was mired in mediocrity 598 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: because of that, just like Texas has been. Now Here 599 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: is what Alabama did. Alabama went and hired Nick Saban. 600 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: Here's what Nick Saban did. He walked in and understood, 601 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: I've got maximum leverage cause my name's Nick Saban. And 602 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: so these people begged me to take this job, and 603 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: I turned it down, and then they begged me again 604 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 2: and I took it. And I am at this point 605 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: the highest pay coach in college football. But I'm going 606 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: to run everything, and I have full autonomy and I 607 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: have full leverage to do so. 608 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: So Saban walked in the door. 609 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: There are famous stories at this point around Alabama about this, 610 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: and Nick Saban did a healthy inventory of the program 611 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: and then the sort of layers around the program, and 612 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: he realized why Alabama had been what Alabama had been 613 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: recently and in no uncertain terms. Once he got his 614 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: lay of the land, Nick Saban let it be known, 615 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: I don't care if he, her and him, I don't 616 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: care how much they're worth. 617 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be an either or situation. You can 618 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: either have. 619 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: Them maintain their stature around here or you can have me. 620 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: But if you have me, they're gone. And guess what 621 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: Alabama did. 622 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: They said, the net result of us giving this man 623 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: what he wants will increase our financial windfall ten times 624 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: more than any check these folks can ever write. And 625 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: so they read the Riot Act to a lot of 626 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: influential boosters and big money people around the University of Alabama. 627 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: You've been to Tuscalusa lately? Have you compared it? 628 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: Do a side by side Tuscalalosa, Alabama, two thousand and six, 629 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Check it out and see what kind 630 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: of impact that guy's had. Texas has got to do 631 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: the same thing. Here's the difference. There are not many 632 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: Nick Sabans out there. There are not many people who 633 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: walk in and can swing their shoulders like that. And 634 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: Charlie Strong wasn't that guy. Unfortunately, Steve Sarkeesian is probably 635 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: not that guy. We can all hope that it's different. 636 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: Obviously Tom Hermann was not that guy. And what the 637 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: bad part is is you got to hope that the 638 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: people involved in the hiring process are looking for that guy. 639 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: See Alabama was looking for that, mal Moore was actively 640 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: looking for that. You can never know is Texas really 641 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: looking for that or or is there enough influence over 642 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: on the other side of the table at Texas where 643 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: they're just looking for another guy that they can attach 644 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: strings to the shoulders of and can control. I'm not 645 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: making that accusation. I'm telling you, if you're a Texas fan, 646 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: you're gott to be hoping against that. And so we're 647 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: in that whole remains to be seen holding pattern with 648 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian. 649 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: But that is. 650 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: Really at the core what I mean when I say 651 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: you got a culture problem. No problem this week because 652 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: we get to go to South Florida for the whole week, 653 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: So we really appreciate you being tuned in. Make sure 654 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: you're following on Twitter and Instagram at late kick Josh, 655 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: because I'll have a ton of updates this week. Our 656 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: calendar through the super Bowl is going to be weird. 657 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: We've got some different things that we're trying, so this 658 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: is the time of year where we experiment, and it's 659 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: all your idea anyway, because we're just following your advice. 660 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: So thank you so much. I appreciate all the emails. 661 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: We're going to get into the habit of reading some 662 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: of those on the air instead of just posting them, 663 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: because I think a lot of. 664 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: You could use what others how must you are saying 665 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: to each other? We'll probably start doing that anymore, but 666 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: it's not lost on me. I read them all. I 667 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 668 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: Until next time for a direct accompt or producer Jess, 669 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: for all of our PA and for myself, thank you 670 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: so much for watching. 671 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: Have yourselves a great rest of your evening than God 672 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: Mons