WEBVTT - Donald Trump Retakes the Presidency

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I'm your host, ramses.

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<v Speaker 2>Job, he is Ramsay's joh I am q Ward. You

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<v Speaker 2>are tuned into Civic Cipher, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, and today we got our work cut out

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Once upon a time, I remember encountering a

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<v Speaker 1>story from Meek Mill and he was recalling what it

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<v Speaker 1>was like walking in the halls at Rockefeller Records after

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<v Speaker 1>NAS dropped Ether, and I remember him saying, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet day at the Rockefeller Studios. Well, I am

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<v Speaker 1>here to tell you it has been a quiet week

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<v Speaker 1>around the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. Here at Civic Cipher,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a time of reflection. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>time of introspection and of course, time to strategize and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out our path forward. Of course, I'm referring to

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<v Speaker 1>the results of the election. This is something that we

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<v Speaker 1>are processing and will be processing for some time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to pretend like the conversation we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>have is going to be full of optimism and strategy. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still working through all of that but we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who have the bandwidth to take in

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<v Speaker 1>this show. We're going to do our best to be

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<v Speaker 1>your brothers again. We are going to do our best

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<v Speaker 1>to be strong and to heed our responsibility in this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Forgive us if we are human, because we are both

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<v Speaker 1>having human moments. But if you'll stick around, hopefully you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to share with us in our healing and

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<v Speaker 1>of course get some strategy from us, and maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get some from you as well. But before we get there,

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<v Speaker 1>of Palmer's new gig remains unknown, but both the entertainer

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to work with Sorry, the brand goes on

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<v Speaker 1>to say, we wanted to work with someone who truly

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<v Speaker 1>understands here and is more than a face for our campaigns.

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer's authentic voice and deep understanding of our audience will

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<v Speaker 1>help us craft messages that truly connect with our consumers.

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<v Speaker 1>Those messages will reportedly lean into Palmer's natural talents as

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<v Speaker 1>a storyteller, a skill set she's eager to bring to

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<v Speaker 1>her new role. So, you know, one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>honors in this show is that we get to highlight

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<v Speaker 1>examples of ebony excellence, no matter how big, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how small. We get to remind folks that were not

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, struggle and death, that we do accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>great things. And today it has been our pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>highlight the one and only Kiki Palmer for the big

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<v Speaker 1>moves she's making. Shout out to her as the black

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<v Speaker 1>girl magic. We like to say, Okay, so I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked to you, Q.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing, I'm not doing okay. There's something to

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<v Speaker 2>the position that we are asked to play. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>just mean today, I kind of mean throughout society. The

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<v Speaker 2>black person in this country is asked to play a

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<v Speaker 2>very unique position. Love everything about the country that has

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<v Speaker 2>never been good to you, and if you have anything

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<v Speaker 2>bad to say about it, you can just go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the land that we stole you from, the land

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<v Speaker 2>that you have no bridge to, the land that we

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<v Speaker 2>assured you have no connection to the land that we

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<v Speaker 2>assured would be very very difficult for you to find

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever tried to in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has been fully exploited by us as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's not a lot in way of resources there

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<v Speaker 1>to reinvent yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>We will continue to misuse, mistreat, disrespect, conspire against your

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<v Speaker 2>very sense of self determination, your very sense of pride,

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<v Speaker 2>you're very sense of aspiration. There's a way that stories

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<v Speaker 2>are told, from children's books to movies to the Bible itself,

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<v Speaker 2>where there is always a redemption. There's always something that

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<v Speaker 2>leads to that redemption. There's always something that points to

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<v Speaker 2>a light at the end of the tunnel, the sun

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<v Speaker 2>from behind the clouds. And that seems to be true

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone but Black Americans. And my pain is very

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<v Speaker 2>specific to Black Americans because we are, without a doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who have been most affected by bad faith, legislation, racism,

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<v Speaker 2>the white supremacist history of this country, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>be the most affected by this election. I have people

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<v Speaker 2>that I love and care about that are white Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>some that are white men, some that are wealthy white men,

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<v Speaker 2>and not much about the way the world or this

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<v Speaker 2>country interacts with them will change. They'll get to feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, things that they say out loud to me

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<v Speaker 2>are true, just won't impact your day to day life.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote local when you don't have to really worry about

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<v Speaker 2>the president. You know, it's hard for me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't sleep much last night, and I thing stressed me

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<v Speaker 2>out the most leading up to the election, and why

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't slept much period, not just last night. But

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<v Speaker 2>everyone kept telling me how low the stakes were. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I couldn't get unstressed out. Leading up to the election.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept hearing people say how it wasn't that big

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<v Speaker 2>of a deal, how not much it's going to change,

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<v Speaker 2>how And I kept looking around and looking in the

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<v Speaker 2>mirror and looking at my phone and reading the newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever, trying to figure out if I was in

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<v Speaker 2>some type of silo by myself, and I was the

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<v Speaker 2>only person that had access to the information that I had,

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<v Speaker 2>the only person that had access to the videos that

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<v Speaker 2>I watched, the only person that had access to the

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<v Speaker 2>transcripts that I read. I wish it was hard to

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<v Speaker 2>understand why people like that guy. I wish it was confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was less informed. I wish I had

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<v Speaker 2>less in the way of information. I wish I knew

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<v Speaker 2>less because it wouldn't feelless awful. I see rappers, black celebrities,

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<v Speaker 2>and really just black people defiant in their support for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and for some of them, the defiance is the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't tell me what to do, you can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me how to think, so it does not matter that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong. It does not matter that this person represents

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<v Speaker 2>everything that's contrary or antithetical to my people. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how to think, and you can't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what to do. So to show you how free thinking

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<v Speaker 2>and defiant and strong I am, this is what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what. And then you have to realize he's

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<v Speaker 2>like every petulant preteenager's dream, right, because there's something to

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<v Speaker 2>the character in the story that can do or say

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want with impunity. I'm strong, I'm powerful, you're weak.

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<v Speaker 2>Your rules don't apply to me. I don't care about

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<v Speaker 2>anyone but myself, and there's no consequence to it. So

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<v Speaker 2>everything I've been taught to believe, my whole life is

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<v Speaker 2>in question now, from the King James Bible to the

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<v Speaker 2>first movies and stories I was ever told weeping man

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<v Speaker 2>door for a night, it says in Psalms, But joy

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<v Speaker 2>comes in the morning when and for who? Not me,

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<v Speaker 2>not my mom and dad, not their parents, not their parents,

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<v Speaker 2>not their parents, not their parents, not their parents, And

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<v Speaker 2>now not my kids. So joy comes for who and

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<v Speaker 2>when answers to what prayers win? Redemption from my people, win,

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<v Speaker 2>reparations from my people, win, a success story, a win,

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<v Speaker 2>some form of joy for us win. Someone explained, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the reason I'm supposed to be hopeful moving forward when

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<v Speaker 2>more than half of the people I share this country with,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing all they know, would still vote for that man,

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<v Speaker 2>would encourage me to vote for that man. Thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>felony counts, convicted, not just charges, two cases felony still pending,

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<v Speaker 2>impeached twice, bankrupt six times. That's the record on paper.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not even taking into account the things that he says,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that he plans to do, the things that

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do, the things that he said. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to do an investigation. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>pull up secret paperwork. We don't have to subpoena and

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<v Speaker 2>his phone and look through his messages. No, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the things that he says out loud that he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to do to us, our mothers, our sisters, our wives,

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<v Speaker 2>our daughters, our brothers, our sisters, our nieces, our nephews,

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<v Speaker 2>our uncles, our family members, our friends, everyone that doesn't think, believe, pray,

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<v Speaker 2>and love the way that he does, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably can't imagine that he does love. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he views the world that way. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he've used life that way. I think it's all the

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<v Speaker 2>transaction to him, and if it benefits him, it does

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<v Speaker 2>not matter who it brings harm to. I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>everything he says, and he loves you, and he'll lift

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<v Speaker 2>you up. Disagree with one thing that he says, and

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<v Speaker 2>he will stomp on you and convince everyone who has

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<v Speaker 2>now yielded their power, yielded their autonomy, yielded their independence

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<v Speaker 2>of thought to him. They will jump you to He

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<v Speaker 2>will break line with you while you're fighting for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Google Mitch McConnell if you don't believe me. I have

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<v Speaker 2>not been able to sleep. I have not been able

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<v Speaker 2>to give myself any form of optimism. And everybody's saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be okay, isn't paying attention. I wish there

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<v Speaker 2>was some way to escape. I see people saying they'll

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<v Speaker 2>move to another country. Where you're gonna go where this

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<v Speaker 2>country doesn't have power. He's somehow broken us. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean black people. I mean everybody, because he's even

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<v Speaker 2>shown when he proves out to be awful, so many

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<v Speaker 2>of those that support him have just said, so what,

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<v Speaker 2>So when he does inevitably impact their lives negatively, we

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<v Speaker 2>won't even have a moment to be like, hey, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>we told you so. No, they're gonna come up with

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<v Speaker 2>the way in their head for that to be okay too.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not feel like we can come back from this.

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<v Speaker 2>How how are we here again? I'm supposed to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out some reassuring story to tell my kids, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to look at them and lie to them that

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<v Speaker 2>reassurance is based on what? And again, when when does

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<v Speaker 2>this story work out for us? I have not seen stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not read reports. I think I shared with

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<v Speaker 2>you already. I felt and saw this going bad fast

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<v Speaker 2>and did not take the final results to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that seemed insane to me in real time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew right then, oh no, here it is. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we go again. Way before all the boats had been tallied,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it. I got rid of all my socials.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm supposed to say. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't a lot of people I can't pretend. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get on this mic and pretend like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like everything's gonna be okay, because I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel okay. I don't feel like everything's gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know for some people that no matter the

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<v Speaker 2>outcome of this decision that they've made collectively, there won't

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<v Speaker 2>even be that moment where everybody says, man, we messed up. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's already shown it. That's what I'm saying. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not some science project where we haven't gotten the

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<v Speaker 2>results of the experiment already. He's already shown and already

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<v Speaker 2>told us exactly what he was gonna do, and people said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. So we won't even have that moment where

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<v Speaker 2>people will say, man, we messed up. Nope. Everybody's too

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<v Speaker 2>dug in. Everybody wants to seem prolific, provocative, a free

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<v Speaker 2>thinking individual. So I'm smarter than everybody else. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>I did this thing that nobody else does, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a sheep and you are, so even when it

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<v Speaker 2>proves out to be an awful decision, they won't look

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<v Speaker 2>at the mirror and say, man, man, we didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>this right. Because he's shown that there's nothing he can

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<v Speaker 2>do to lose their support. There's nothing he can do

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<v Speaker 2>to make them say, man, maybe I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong side of this. So it does not feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there is any coming back from it, or like we'll

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<v Speaker 2>even have the chance in four years to do anything

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<v Speaker 2>about it, because oh yeah, we got JD Vance in

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<v Speaker 2>the wake in case you haven't been paying attention to

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<v Speaker 2>that lunatic. So no, I'm not okay, man, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have anymy to tell you guys that I'm that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be okay or that it's going to be okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's just not how I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for that. This is again our first

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<v Speaker 1>time having this conversation. Normally i'd have something a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more optimistic and to throw into the conversation, but unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the long road that we have been

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<v Speaker 1>on just got a lot longer. I feel like there

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<v Speaker 1>was a decisive action that put all of the goals

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, of my life, the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in, the things that I want to fight for.

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<v Speaker 1>It puts those goals beyond the time frame of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>so I won't see these things happen within my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it feels like, you know, the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>justices are going to retire once he's sworn in, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to appoint newer, younger Supreme Court justices to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that there's a conservative supermajority on the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. Obviously, there's a book that was written for

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<v Speaker 1>his presidency that he now no longer has to distance

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<v Speaker 1>himself from, you know, not or specifically speaking about a

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<v Speaker 1>Project twenty twenty five. So you know, he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to hide behind Agenda forty seven anymore. He can lean

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<v Speaker 1>into Project twenty twenty five because he doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>seek reelection anymore. And he's got unfortunately, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>decisive win for that election, and so he's got the House,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's you know, he's got everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to shoehorn Project twenty twenty five and that

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<v Speaker 1>framework into American society. And so again, I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>have anything to contribute here that feels optimistic, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that there are a handful of us who

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any quit in us, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I'm a fighter, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>my boys my two sons, my children. They are kind souls.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that their path will be mine. And

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<v Speaker 1>even if there are some things that won't happen in

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<v Speaker 1>my lifetime, I owe it to their children to try

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<v Speaker 1>so I will, you know, and you know, I believed

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<v Speaker 1>in a world where you know, we could get climate

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<v Speaker 1>change under control. I believed in a world where we

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<v Speaker 1>could get rid of the filibuster and get some some

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<v Speaker 1>actual police reform. I believed in a world where we

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<v Speaker 1>could take on less visible problems like environmental racism and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, housing discrimination and things like that, the X problems,

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone wants to focus on police violence and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>affirmative action. But you know, there's some other problems that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that we'd be able to really tackle now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like, you know, we won't get to

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<v Speaker 1>those anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong. I hope all

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<v Speaker 1>the people that have been kind of rubbing their their

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<v Speaker 1>Trump victories, their texts in my face, I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are right when I point out that

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<v Speaker 1>they're rubbing that in my face and they say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't what I was trying to do. You'll see

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<v Speaker 1>one day, America is going to be whatever they think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be under his leadership. You know, why

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<v Speaker 1>not hope that they're right. Maybe this guy was lying

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<v Speaker 1>for I don't know, nine years, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds absurd to say that, you know, you said

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<v Speaker 1>it best. He's shown us exactly who he is. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I will, I will say that there there just is

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<v Speaker 1>no quit in me. You know, I'm one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people that will fight to the death and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>dead yet, So yeah, I again, I don't think we

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<v Speaker 1>got on the radio today to pretend like everything was okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're processing it the same as everyone else, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels like the moment that we had to take

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<v Speaker 1>to just kind of talk about where we are. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to, you know, spend the next half of

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<v Speaker 1>the show kind of dissecting why we are where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So my hope is that you'll stick around for that

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that we can learn a lot from that.