1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: christer name and this is the Keeping Positive, Sweetish Show, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Licensed therapists and just his host, Doctor J. Barnett, has 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: built a national platform around healing and accountability. His story 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: from athlete to advocate shows that faith and emotional intelligence 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: can thrive together. Today, he joins us to talk about growth, grief, 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and the courage to heal kids. Telly, please give a 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: very warm welcome to King J. Barnett. Finally, yes, finally, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: we got you here. 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Listen. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: We've been talking about this for about what a year? 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: A year now? 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I know you was filming and both 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: of our lives are busy, but I feel like it's purposeful. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: Busy it is. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: That's why I have to tell people like you got 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: so much going on, but it's all purposeful, baby, it 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: is purpose I. 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Looked at your stories this week alone. I'm like, is 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: he gonna make it to Atlanta? 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was coming, Crystal, I was coming. I 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: was coming. I was coming. So yeah, I started out. 24 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 2: I haven't been home in like three weeks. 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 26 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: So I was in Detroit for no. I was in 27 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: New York because it started I did the breakfast club 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: for World Mental Health Day and brought Joel with me, 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: and then Taraji had her mental health weekends, so I 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: keynoted for her. 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 3: And then after that I was. 32 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: In Detroit and then Canada seven days, and then Costa 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Rica and now here and then I'm in Toronto after 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take a break after this sto. I 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: got to get this book done and I got to 36 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: settle down. 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: So awesome, awesome, I love it. Well, Jay, you took 38 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: the world by storm on the internet, and I first 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: saw you on social media really giving men a safe 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: space to even have a voice, to be vulnerable and 41 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: to start healing. And I feel like for black men, 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: therapy has been so stigmatized and you've taken that stigma 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: off and allowed black men to just be themselves and 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: speak truth and really like had face on with their trauma. 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: But that did not come without healing of your own. Yes, 46 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about that. You've been very 47 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: open about when football was over, you hit rock bottom, 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: But how did you know it was time to start healing? 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: And like what moment happened to You're like, wait a minute, 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: this is a problem I need to Yeah. 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, really, I didn't know it was time. Crystal. 52 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: My second suicide attempt is what really sort of kind 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: of you know, pushed me to going therapy. 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: So I was living with. 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: My godmother at the time, and I was living with 56 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: her because I was training pro athletes, very successful business 57 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: and I had a house, and she was like, you 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: need to get out of the house and come to 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: stay with me and cut down your overhead. So my godmother, man, 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: she's big and finances. So I was just like, man, 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: I can't do this. Man, I'm like thirty one years old. 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't, you know, take away from what 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: I you know, what I was building at the time. 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: So I said, let me pray about it. 65 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: Because my godmother was never able to have kids, so 66 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: she took me under her wings and she says, Jay, 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: I really think you should focus on the speaking thing, 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: what you're doing with the teens and the youth. And 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, So I make the move and I 70 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: get there. By this time, I'm about a year in 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: living with her, and I have a mental breakdown just 72 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: because I felt like a failure number one, because I'm like, man, 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out life and I'm staying with 74 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: my godmother and she has a nice sized house, so 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't like I was in her space, so she 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: was in my space. And it was good because it 77 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: allowed me to really look at life differently. And so 78 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: one night I was on a call with my parents 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: and just kind of sharing how I. 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: Was still battling this depression thing. 81 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: So and when I share this, because it could take 82 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: a spend because at that time, I don't don't think 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: my father really understood the significant and the severity of 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: what I was going through. So he makes a statement 85 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: on the phone, here we go again. Oh wow, And 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: that was a trigger. And after he said that, I 87 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: told my mom I said, you know what, man, I'm 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: tired of this man like you know, because I was 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: really trying to find a way to talk about what 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: I was going through mentally, but nobody was listening. So 91 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: I told her, I said, well, this is probably the 92 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: last time that y'all gonna talk to me. And she 93 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: says to me, Jay, please don't do nothing. Sign please, 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: And I said, Mama, I'm tired. 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: And I had been caring this pain from their divorce, 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: from the rejection of my mother had remarried her husband, 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: the god that she remarried, was physically abusive. I lived 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: with a white family for the last two years of 100 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: my high school year. Man, I just gone through a 101 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: lot from the time that my parents' divorced up until 102 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: you know, thirty, because I had never processed anything. Because 103 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: the thing about football, man, you can put that helmet 104 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: on and it's a mask. 105 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: You can hide anything. 106 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: And I think after years of a neessscizing and all 107 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: of that stuff just festering, I didn't have I didn't have, 108 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, an outlet anymore. Football was my outlet. I 109 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: wasn't playing because I wanted to make money. I was 110 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: playing because I needed to place the process its pain 111 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: and being able to run over guys and hit allowed 112 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: me to get that aggression out. And so my mother 113 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: says to me, Jay, if you take your life, do 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: you know that you possibly go to hell? 115 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: And Chris, I remember this so vividly. 116 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: Me and her talk about this the other day and 117 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: I said to her, I don't give a damn. I 118 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: don't care as long as I can get rid of 119 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: this pain. So I had a back injury that I 120 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: had been battling, and I had a bunch of pills 121 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: from that, and I just went in the bathroom and 122 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: took everything, like everything, and God knew because had I 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: been by myself, I would have shot myself. The only 124 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: reason that I didn't attempt with the gun because I 125 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: was living with my godmother and I did not want 126 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: her to have that visual and to have that scene. 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: So even then I'm still considerate, Yeah, you know what 128 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: I mean, even while I'm in pain. So I overdose 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: and my godmother found me under the bed and I 130 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: don't till. 131 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: This day, I don't know how. 132 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: And I know it's God because I can remember standing 133 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: in a dark place when I was out or whatever 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: you know was going on, and I just heard the 135 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: voice of God just saying. 136 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: You have got to give this to me. Wow, like literally. 137 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: And so. 138 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: After that, my godmother, you know, a day go by, 139 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: we don't talk about what had happened. 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: And finally she said can we talk? 141 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: And she said why would you do this in my home? 142 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: And I just sat there and she says, Jay, if 143 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: you're going to stay here, you got to get some help. 144 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: Here's the part that people. 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: Have not heard. My Godmother's white really wow. 146 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: And she sat there and she said, you got to 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: get some help, and that pushed me to go to 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: therapy because and it wasn't that I wasn't like I 149 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: was making money and I was. I was, you know, 150 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't like I couldn't work or anything like that, 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: but mentally I wasn't in the best place. And I 152 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: said to her, I just don't want to be here. 153 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: And a friend of mine sent me a therapist, which 154 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: was a Christian Christian guy, and I went to him 155 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: for a while. I didn't really connect with him because 156 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: my dad is a pastor, so I say, bro, I 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: don't really need no scriptures. 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: Man. I got to figure out a way how to 159 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: release this. 160 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: And most people don't know this that when you think 161 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: about depression, it's really a lack of expression. 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: That's what depression is. 163 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: And so no one had really checked on me when 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: my parents divorced. My parents were pastors, and when they divorced, 165 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: me being the oldest, all the pressure was on me 166 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: because everybody said, hey, you gotta look out for your momy, 167 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: you gotta look out for your sisters. So I'm in 168 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: therapy my first session and that man asked me, how 169 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: do you feel? 170 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: Do you know I'm thirty one? 171 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Years old and nobody had never I cannot remember. People 172 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: had asked me how I'm doing, but no one had. 173 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: Never asked me how I'm feeling. 174 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: And that's what led me into therapy at that journey. 175 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: And it's been, Uh, that was I was thirty one, 176 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: that was thirty one. 177 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm forty three today. So uh, it's been a journey 178 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: of healing. It's been. It's been a beautiful journey. 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, at times it's still you know, some moments, 180 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't take it back for anything. 181 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Two things, A few things that said out when 182 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: you were speaking was one, I was successful, Everything was great, 183 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: but I was depressed a lot of there's a misconception 184 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: that when your successful, depression can't creep in. Yeah, you know. 185 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: And then the fact that your godmother was white because 186 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot of times in African American homes, therapy is 187 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: not a it's not an option, you know, so to 188 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: even I wonder if you would have even got to 189 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: that point without having a white godmother to say, hey, 190 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: you need to go to therapy, because you wouldn't have 191 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: gotten that for your mother therapy. 192 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: No, because I remember when I said to my mom 193 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: that I was going to therapy. 194 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: Mama Mary as y'all know her. 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: Mama, I love you, but said to me, you're going 196 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: to that telling that white man all our business. 197 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: That's it. 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: I said, I don't give a damn what color he is. 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get some help. Do you hear me? Yes? 200 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 3: And Crystal cannot tell you. It was. Have you seen 201 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: Aine Fisher? 202 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Yes? 203 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: So I wrote my capstone. I did my capstone on 204 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: Antone Fisher and the sexual abuse that he you know, 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: end it. It was just like that when he was 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: working with Denzel. Remember it was like three sessions before 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: he opened up. Yes, it was about three sessions before 208 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: I opened up. Because one I'm like, dang, I don't 209 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: want to open up to this white man. But that 210 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: man said to me one day, he said, tell me 211 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: about your dad, and then he asked me about football. 212 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about you the thought of Sunumbi, and it 213 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: broke something. And for the two sessions that I didn't talk, 214 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: he would literally say it's okay, when you come back 215 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: next week. 216 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I come back, bro. I was 217 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: so reluctant. 218 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: But when that man asked me and he said, I said, bro, 219 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. 220 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: He said, with you write it down. And I wrote 221 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: it down and I never forget this. 222 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: He said, three words that describe what you're feeling now. 223 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: I said lost, I said inadequate, and I said like 224 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: a failure. I'll never forget those three words. Never get there, 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: never forget lost, in adequate, and a failure. And man, 226 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: something just started to break. And he would always say, 227 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: are you going to come back next week? I'd be like, yeah, man, 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: I'll come back. And I just kept going back, and 229 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: you know, and it was crazy because nobody in my 230 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: family and nobody around me. I remember, like my home 231 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: was like, nigga, you're doing therapy? Are you crazy? 232 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Bro right? 233 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: And I remember one of my homeboys literally just kind 234 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: of like like, you know, poking, like, nigga, you really 235 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: think that therapies is working? 236 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know. 237 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I was curious because I really wanted to 238 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: let go of the pain because for so long the 239 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: pain had been a driver in my life. And men 240 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: don't realize is that if pain becomes a driver in 241 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: your life, you're going to become one of two things. Yeah, 242 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: homicidal or suicidal. 243 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Wow, that is powerful. I remember this around twenty twenty 244 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: during COVID was the first time we all had to 245 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: sit down with ourselves. So for me, that was when 246 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I need to talk to someone. 247 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: So I got a therapist and I'm like, this is 248 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: not working. This is not working. But I was like, 249 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: your mama, I'm not going to tell you all my business. 250 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: So I wasn't being honest with the lady and that's 251 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: why I wasn't working right. So I ended up getting 252 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: another therapist and finally I was just like, Okay, if 253 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: I want this to work, I gotta just tell her everything. 254 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: So I started opening up and I was like, wait, 255 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: this is like unlocking a lot of things that I 256 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: didn't even remember. You know what was the first honest 257 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: thing that you said in a therapy session that really 258 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: unlocked something? 259 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: Oooh man, my parents' divorce really hurt me. I walked 260 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: in the room in my mom's in my parents' bedroom. 261 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: I will never forget this. 262 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: I was ten years old and my mom was sitting 263 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: on the bed crying, and I said to my mom, 264 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: I knew what was going on. I was a very 265 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: precocious kid. I knew and I said, why won't you 266 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: leave ten years old and my mom looks at me 267 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: and says, God hasn't released me to leave. 268 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: And I couldn't understand that. 269 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: And I think when I got to therapy to know 270 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: how her and my dad was divorcing, because for me, 271 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: we would go to church on Sunday as a family 272 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: and Monday through Saturday complete chaos. Wow. 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: So none of that made sense to me. 274 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: And I think when I really sat down and what 275 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: really broke in me to really get me to start 276 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: open up, how much that impacted me as a son, 277 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: not only to watch what happened with just my father 278 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: and my mother, but also as a son who had 279 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: to fill in this gap because I became this standing 280 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: husband from my mother and then this surrogate father to 281 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: my sisters, which is also where I learned how to intercede. 282 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: Because my mom had me praying for her, wow. 283 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: Because she was like, she was like, can you I 284 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: remember nice her crying and said can you pray for me? 285 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Wow? 286 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: So I had all of these burdens on me, you know, 287 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: at such a young age, because I was spiritually gifted, 288 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: you know, early on in my parents realized that I 289 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: had this prophetic gift. And you know I was already menacing. 290 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: I gave my first sermon at the age of nine 291 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: in front of two hundred people. Wow. So from nine 292 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: to eleven most people don't notice. Nine to eleven I 293 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: preached all over Mississippi as a young pheenom preacher kid. 294 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: And it was how we ate because I was getting paid. 295 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: And when my parents advorced, I said I would never 296 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: preach another sermon. Of course, look at you now, listen, Chris, 297 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm in Canada. 298 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm in Canada right. Given this keynote. 299 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: On the empowering and restoring families of the Nova Scotian 300 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: Unity in Caunada and Halifax. 301 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: Powerful keynote. This is how you know you can't run. 302 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Come on now, talk about it. 303 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: This lady walked up to me after the keynote, beautiful 304 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: lady with some beautiful white hair man, black woman, and 305 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: she said, baby, they heard a doctor. 306 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: I heard a past. Come on now listen, listen. 307 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: I look at that lady. I said, ma'am, could you 308 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: please please? I don't want to hear no more prophetic word. 309 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't hear nothing. Please don't tell me nothing about 310 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: no past, no church. But and I know, Lord, you 311 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: know I love you, and I know you probably called 312 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: me to that when I'm fifty, but not in this season. 313 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: But that thing broke something because I couldn't understand at 314 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: that time why would God break up my family? Because 315 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: I love seeing my parents. That was nothing more that 316 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: I love about having a family, And even to this day, 317 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: it bothers me that I don't have a family. 318 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, Why do you feel like you don't feel 319 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: like it's God assignment? Or do you feel like that's 320 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: just maybe you haven't focused on that? What do you 321 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: feel is? 322 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna bring you into this? 323 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because because people will look at us, right, 324 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: they would look at us as if we've arrived. They 325 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: would look at us as if we've achieved. But the 326 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: more that you expand, because I believe this for you, 327 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: as much with you have is as much depth that 328 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 2: you have, yes, as as much reach as you have, 329 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: that's also a level of depth that you have. So 330 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: dating and trying to build something with the depth that 331 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: we have is challenging. Yeah, because you also have the insight, 332 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: hindsight and foresight. 333 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Come on, now, hindsight. 334 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: I know what I've gone through and I've learned from it. 335 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: The insight is that I have this revelation not only 336 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: of myself but also what God has given me. And 337 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: the foresight is that I also see where He's taking me. 338 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: So I can't yoke up with anybody. 339 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: I can't. 340 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: And I know you like me. I know you like 341 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: the idea of me. I know you like you know 342 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, how I smell, how I look. You 343 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You know you come across you 344 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: know the stream with this beauty. You know what I'm saying. 345 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: The teeth popping and their lips are popping, and you 346 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: got the makeup and the brows, and I got this 347 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: beautiful dark skin. And you listen at the way that 348 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: I articulate and the way that I can conceptualize something. 349 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: But if you have not done work on the level, 350 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: and not. 351 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: Just to stand next to us, but to walk with us, 352 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: it requires so much, so as much as I have 353 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: to more not having a family, and also understand that 354 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: because if it ain't equal, I can't yoke up with it. Yeah, 355 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: So to answer your question, so it gives me peace, 356 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: you know, And and I and I've shared this and 357 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: I actually talked about this on the dinner kings. Briefly, 358 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, about five years ago, my girlfriend at the 359 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: time and I had a miscarriage and that thing broke 360 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: to both of us and U and it was something 361 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: I didn't talk about and it was so crazy because 362 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: our parents are pastors. And I called her mom and said, 363 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: can I take you to dinner? Like I want to 364 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: talk to you about something? And you know, I don't 365 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: know why I thought I could hide it from my mom, 366 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: because my mom is like a seer. My mom said, Jay, 367 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: I knew it. I knew, I knew and I just 368 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: started to break down because I heard it for her. 369 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: And then as a man, you know that, I felt 370 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: like this was my time to you know what I'm saying, 371 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: because you know, we don't talk about miscarriage when it 372 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: comes to. 373 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Men, right, and how it affects you all, Yeah. 374 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: Because I feel like it. 375 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: I think it does a number on the woman, on 376 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: the woman physically, what her body goes through and emotionally, 377 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: and then I think, but it messes with the man 378 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: mentally because I remember the scene of walking in the 379 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: bathroom and I can't it's hard. Even today, I can 380 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 2: step right into that moment and the picture and it's 381 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: just like I can see her face, I can see 382 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: her complexion, you know, her whole accountant is changing. 383 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: It's like, Jay, what's just happened? 384 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: So I've had to really I've gone back to therapy 385 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: for that and really grieve that I was in therapy 386 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: all last year grieving that. 387 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: And I'm at a good place. 388 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: But you know, it's not easy to be who we 389 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: are and to feel like, dang, ain't nobody on my level? 390 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: Right? 391 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Jay, I don't need to get my business. Okay, listen, 392 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: it's crazy, like you know you are on my street 393 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: right now, because it's it's hard, It's really hard, and 394 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: I don't want to be like on my level, you 395 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But it's like spirits, not just financially, spirually. 396 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: How about I can't be yoked up with just anybody 397 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that is real? And I was. We had an episode 398 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: with me, Ashan and West and I was saying, I'm 399 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: tired of leading men like I'm tired of leading financially, 400 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm tired of leading spiritually. I'm tired of leading the household. 401 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: Like I want someone that I can trust to lead 402 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: in the household and always who can lead me to God? 403 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm not the one begging you to come to church 404 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: on Sundays or begging you to I'm the one only 405 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: one up reading the Bible and then the word like 406 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: I need I need to look over or not over 407 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: because I don't even don't you ain't sleeping in the 408 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: house no more. But I need to know that you 409 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: at your house waking up reading your word the same way. 410 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: I am like, all right, we in this thing together 411 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: so that we're both pulling from the same source. Now 412 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: you pulling off of my my resources to the source. 413 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 414 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 3: Listen, let me get one of them cards. 415 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: Listen, we do something on the Just Here podcastle I 416 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: have to tear the car down as the moment you 417 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: are crystal my God today. So I'm glad I'm here 418 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: because I could be transparent. I was dating this girl 419 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: years ago, and to your point, I like, if I'm 420 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: dating you and I have to feel like I have 421 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: to hold back who I am spiritually, I know it's 422 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: not gonna work. Yes, so I go to like when 423 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: I go in my bedroom, it don't take me no 424 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: time to fall asleep because there's such a piece in 425 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: my house. 426 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: You will walk in there and you just fall. 427 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: That's my house is They're like it feels like here's 428 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: z in in here. 429 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's how here in. My producer CJ was 430 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: at my house a couple of weeks ago. He called me. 431 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: He was like, dang, nigga, I can't stay awake. I said, 432 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: that's exactly what I want and curates me. So I'm 433 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: dating this girl and she stays over, she can't sleep. 434 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: Was wrestling in your spirit hooded. 435 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: So so I'm like, I wake up. I said, again, 436 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm being transparent open because we had been dating for 437 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: a while and so you know, she was staying over 438 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: and she's always talk about how she had the hard 439 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: time sleeping, and I was just like, listen, I woke up. 440 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: I said, yo, man, you have got because she was turning, tossing, 441 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: turning all night long and I was just like this don't. 442 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: So I get up and I'm I'm I'm used to 443 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: waking up seeing my mother walk the floor and pray. 444 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: So I get up and open my door and I 445 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: go open my patio door. 446 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: I started walking through the house praying. 447 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: And she was just like she wasn't in shock, but 448 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: she was just like I never seen a man pray. 449 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: I said, I don't know what you're wrestling with. And 450 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: I didn't feel like it was a bad spirit on her. 451 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: Something. 452 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: I felt like her anxiety, like she's just like she 453 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: was like she owned her own business and so she 454 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: was just. 455 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Going, mind, just going, and. 456 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: I just started praying and I said, hey, listen, and 457 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: I told her, I said, listen, I'm I have to 458 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: do this. And I said, if you don't mind, if 459 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: you could just you know, walk with me, or so 460 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: she sat on the couch. I'm going through the house. 461 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: I don't went up in the spirit. I said, I 462 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: have to do this because I got a rest, because 463 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: I got a long day tomorrow and I want you 464 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: to rest. Yeah, And that showed me something because as 465 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: a man, and I want the brothers to hear this. Brother, 466 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: if you can't get to God, if you can't get 467 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: a prayer through, if you can't be vulnerable enough to 468 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: break that stratosphere that him is fear, spiritually, you're doing 469 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: your wife, girl, woman who a disservice, especially if you're 470 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: walking with a woman who's really called to purpose like 471 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: what you're called to, or a woman who's called to 472 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: the purpose of business. 473 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: Healing, finance or whatever. 474 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: It is, like, I really want to see men get 475 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: to a place where we start to carry off. 476 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 477 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: Me and my mother talk about this and I told 478 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: I said, you know, watching you, you've carried every marriage. 479 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Do you think it's do you think that not to 480 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: intrust you? But do you feel like because black men 481 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 1: have seen their moms do it, they just feel like 482 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to do as a woman. 483 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: I think brothers don't even know what it's like to 484 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: carry a woman because they've never seen a man really 485 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: stand in. 486 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: The position. 487 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 2: And as a leader, I feel like men should be 488 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: a prophet. You should be able to speak over your spouse, 489 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: your woman. And this is why I'm waiting on God, 490 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: because I don't spoke over too many folks out of 491 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: prophesied of business, out of spoke life. I would have 492 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: got you in the gym. You done, w got the 493 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: business loan. I ain't doing that no more. 494 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: Look at all this, look at the fruits like the 495 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: fruits of my prayers. 496 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: Listen out of prophesiede. I'm a priest. I feel like 497 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: you have to be a pro a promoter. You gotta 498 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: be able to push and you got to be a 499 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: provider and a protect I'm gonna say that again, brothers, 500 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: and then for the ladies, because I know y'all, y'all, 501 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: y'all love my friend. He has to be a prophet. 502 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: He should be able to speak into your life. He 503 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: has to be a priest. He should be able to cover. 504 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: He has to be a protect there. He should be 505 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: able to provide a sense of security for you. He 506 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: has to be a provider. And I'm not just talking 507 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: about financially. Do you provide insight? And then a promoter, 508 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: can you push me? Can you encourage me? The amount 509 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: of I have a lot of female friends that are 510 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: so amazing, the amount of the amount of them that 511 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: are in relationship with men that are jealous of them. 512 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: And the church is saying amen, the congregation is running it. 513 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: They're running laps around the building. 514 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it. And it 515 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: breaks my heart because I'm like, because I've gone through that, 516 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: you know, but I don't get it because of the 517 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: way I pour it into my sisters and the way 518 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: I pour it to my entire team is black women, 519 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: from my publicist to my admin, and. 520 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: They'll I speak lifing in it. You know what I mean? 521 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: And I said, listen, whoever you date, he don't have 522 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: to be me, but I hope he embodied what you 523 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: guys have seen through. Yes, you know what I mean, 524 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: to speak life into you. They called me my admin Christie. 525 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: She called me a day she got a speaking gear 526 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: for like ten k She's like, bro, you ain't gonna 527 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: bleed this. And I said, what did I tell you? 528 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: You just had to believe that you were Yes, I 529 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: said you had. I knew you were her, And just 530 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: to see her and the rest of my people that 531 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: believe in me and to be reinforced because I can't 532 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: stand to see this attack on black women that are 533 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: really doing something. And you guys get made to feel 534 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 2: because my sisters I pushed the hell out of them. 535 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: They get tired and they married with men, great men, 536 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: and they husband embrace it. Yes, like hey, they'll call 537 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: me hey, brother law she's slacking, you know what I'm saying. 538 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: So I don't I don't get that. 539 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: So I really wanted to give that to the sisters, 540 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: like do not give your pearls to swine and to 541 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: the brothers, the brothers, because there are some brothers that 542 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: are doing things and sometimes because I again, I can 543 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: be honest, I've laid in the lout in the in 544 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: the lap of a Delilah who took who I was, 545 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: took what I shared and explored it. You know what 546 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I'm talking to me as well. Yeah, 547 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: I know I'm a good thing, a good brother. So yeah, man, 548 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: we we we we have too much. Uh we we 549 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: have to too much of a greatness in us man 550 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: to just And And I told God the other day, 551 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: I said, Lord, I've been on the road for three 552 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: weeks and I and I said that I called my 553 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: my my my thing therapist. 554 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: Thank God for doctor town. 555 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: No, I have a different therapist now, different therapists because 556 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: I feel like there's as seasons change. 557 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: That's good. 558 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: You shouldn't you know, you shouldn't always have the same 559 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: therapists because your season would change. And I feel like 560 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: certain people are are called to walk with you in 561 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: different seasons. Doctor Towns is like a sixty some of 562 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: the old black woman. I go to see her in 563 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: San Diego. I get by the water. She's a psychologist 564 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: and she's spirit led, intelligent and all the things. And 565 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: I called and I said, Doc I'm lonely. I know 566 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm not alone, but I'm alone. 567 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: There's a difference, yes. 568 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: And she said what about? I said, Doc, I'm on 569 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: this road man, pouring and pouring, and it's like, yeah, 570 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: I can call people, but the talents with us and 571 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. You may like you'll be talking to somebody. 572 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: They good people, but ain't nothing there. 573 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Man, story of my life? How do you do? 574 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: I got to ask you, how do you process that 575 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: when it's time to kind. 576 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: Of let it go? Yeah, listen, I'm really good at 577 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: seeing as I've gotten old. I'm really good at seeing 578 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: it before it gets too far. And honestly, I just 579 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: had a situation and I was on a trip. I 580 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: was on the water in Italy and God literally said 581 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: to me. I was wrestling with it, like it might 582 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: supposed to end this because it's not there. The alignment 583 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: isn't there. And God said, how many times have you 584 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: prayed God give me a sign and you felt the 585 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: feelings that you're feeling now and you ignored it? And 586 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: he was like, or you ignored it and you went 587 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: on and then something happened. I showed you what I 588 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: was trying to tell you from the beginning, and you're like, 589 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I knew, I felt that in my gut. He said, 590 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: I need you to listen to it. Now. Don't make 591 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: the same mistake of not hearing my voice and going 592 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: through it all over again and getting hurt and then 593 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: looking back, like, Lord, you told me that September the fourteenth, 594 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and I didn't listen. 595 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: Wow. 596 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: So I had to like really just start being obedient 597 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: to that intuition that he gave me to say all right, 598 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: and I just was honest. I'm brutally honest at this age. 599 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just not there. 600 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen, listen, listen. I got to make a 601 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: couple of phone calls. 602 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Listen. But being honest it actually frees you. 603 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: And because it's like and they're not bad people, but 604 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: like like I had to be honest. 605 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 606 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: And Bishop Jake's Bishop. I was sitting with him and 607 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: Bishop called me out and Bishop. 608 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: Said, you have got to stop acting like you are regular. 609 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: He said, that's your biggest challenge, Jake. And he said, 610 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: you have because like when I telling you what what 611 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: God is doing in my life, I didn't I didn't 612 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: want it. I didn't ask for it. I heard God 613 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: tell me after the pandemic. He told me, men, I'm calling. 614 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: You to men. 615 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: Then he said, I'm getting ready to expose you to 616 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: the world. I'm getting ready to reveal you, reveal you 617 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: to the world. 618 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: And long after that, not long after. 619 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: That, Taraji people called me and I went on the 620 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: breakfast club with her virtually and then I mean it 621 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: just took off. So I wasn't asking for it. I 622 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: was wanted to stay hidden because part of me remaining 623 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: hitting was Also I felt like I was secure this 624 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: because when God gives you a platform. I heard my brother. 625 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: I'm give him credit because I heard it from him. 626 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: Stevie Bragg's STEVIEE. Bag said, the bigger the audience, the 627 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: bigger the audit. So as you are seen more, you 628 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: got more eyes on you, the window of error, and 629 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: then everybody got all these opinions, and I feel like 630 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: we live in a world where opinions cannibalize the truth. 631 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: You got all of this stress and pressure because you 632 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: and I we just can't go on. 633 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: A date, no right, even like it could be something 634 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: simple as like I was just feeling a movie and 635 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: he'saon and I was like, I want to my cast man. 636 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: I was like, let's go grab and it's like you 637 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: can't because then the eyes like, oh they. 638 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: Go together, and it's like exact because you got It's. 639 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: Like you can't. Like literally, I have to think about 640 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: every single movie. 641 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: You are so blessed me right now. 642 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: Because I talked to CJ about this, I'm like, when 643 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: people like, hey, Jake, can you I said, I can't, 644 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: because if I talk to somebody, if it goes past 645 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, it's like, oh, we locked in together 646 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: real and me, I'm talking because I'm feeling, you know 647 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and you know it ain't no physical stuff. 648 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: It's like I'm feeling and I'm sensed because I'm not 649 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: a person who I don't use my my doctorate, I 650 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: don't use my therapy. I don't come in there trying 651 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: to clinical line or therapiize anybody. 652 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: Because I would thank you'd be like that. I'm probably 653 00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: be therapying his girl. 654 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh never, never, Thank God. 655 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: My ex we have such a great friendship and she 656 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: always remind me, she says, Jay, and I love her man. 657 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: She She's such a good, great friend of mine, and 658 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: she says, Jay, what I love about you is you 659 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: never brought work in our relationship. 660 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: Never. 661 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: I never used a clinical term like like. 662 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: If we had a conflict. 663 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: I never said you gassed, like like all these people 664 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: use all these like a real clinician like we don't 665 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: like I'm not trying to diagnose nobody to analyze. A 666 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: matter of fact, Negro, I'm not even thinking about you. 667 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: And I appreciate her sharing that because I'm Jay. 668 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: I'm not doctor j R. 669 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: Wow. 670 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 671 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: You're not you know, what's the carrying fatage? You're not 672 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: like I'm a real person. And so if something hurt 673 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: me or there was something that was said, I was like, yo, 674 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 2: you know that that wasn't cool. 675 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 3: I didn't say I feel. 676 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: Like, you know you're that die and it's a messing 677 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: with my mental health. I never like, I like, I can't. 678 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't even listen. I listen. Chris is pulling it 679 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: out of me that I was just be honest, I don't. 680 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that a therapists and clinical 681 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: clinicians that have you know, I don't know if you 682 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: call it shooting your shadow or they said they're available. 683 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: I'm not even interested in dating somebody work in the 684 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: field of a lot of people weird. 685 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: No, people be weird, Jay, people, a lot of people, 686 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: not even just therapists, people weird. 687 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: Man. 688 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: So when they like doc, you so close off because 689 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 2: you all are weird. And then if you hear me 690 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: say nigga, you just like like, or you hear me 691 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: say something that's not, you know, associated with my internal 692 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: degrees or with this idea of this image. Like I'm 693 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: a real person and I'm not always talking about. 694 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: Mental health, right right, There's more to you. 695 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, you know, so when you talk 696 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: about that truth thing, Man, I'm like, Man, I. 697 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: Just told God, I said, bab brother, listen, I'm forty three. 698 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: Man. 699 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, Man, could you please like shure. 700 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: Yoh? 701 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: Jay? Literally you hit me on my Actually, it was 702 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: the day you hit me right with my birthday. I 703 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: was playing it in Miami and you said in an 704 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: incredibly beautiful prayer via DM and that morning I had 705 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: wrote in my journal it was a day before my birthday, 706 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: and I said God, I was like, I'm ready if 707 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: you think I'm ready, because the times I thought I 708 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: was ready, I wasn't ready because like I'm the type 709 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: of person where I'll be ready and I'll be open 710 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: and then they just get on my nerves. I'm like, 711 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. It's like i want somebody that I 712 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: can share space with and be like, this is really 713 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: my homie. 714 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this, and I'm just getting this download. 715 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: You'll see her and even now I'm hearing trust what 716 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 2: you see? 717 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 3: Yes on everything. 718 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: On everything, everything, everything, bro, because you'd be having the 719 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: answers before there is a question. Jane, I've had dreams. 720 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I just had a friend come to me and he 721 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: said I had told him one night I woke up 722 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: and I said, I had a dream that you were 723 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: in this girl's room. This was probably three years ago. 724 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: He said, I knew that I couldn't play with you. 725 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: And I said, what are you talking about. He said, 726 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 1: I was in her room that night you had that dream. 727 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: I said, you are lying to me. Then my assistant 728 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: sorry to call you out. Herman. Herman was like, he said, 729 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: you did the same thing to me the other day. 730 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: I said yeah. I was like, I just had this feeling, 731 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: like randomly that you were going to get like offered 732 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: another job. He said, Crystal, He's like, I got offered 733 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 1: a job that day that you said that. He said 734 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: it scared me and I was like, so. 735 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing this because I'm gonna let the 736 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: spirit shift this the challenge because I have a prophetic 737 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 2: gift and you are seer. I'm gonna say this, I'm 738 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: going to pray that God send somebody to see for you, 739 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: because with us is we can see for everybody but ourselves. 740 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I mean yeah, and sometimes I'm like, 741 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 2: but God, I can't see for me. 742 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 743 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 2: But I also feel that in this season that God 744 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: has you in, He's also given you the confidence to 745 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: not second guess what. 746 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: You see and feel he really is he is. 747 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: And to stand on business. I'm sorry, but when because 748 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: if I would have? 749 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 3: That was my biggest challenge because. 750 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: My parents knew that I was prophetic and they had 751 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: me with people who could, you know, really really shape 752 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: my gift because I hated it because I always was 753 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: right or the spirit was right. Yeah, And so I 754 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: didn't pick my gift back up until I was like 755 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: thirty five. A prophet here in Atlanta that took me 756 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: under his wings, and man I gave that man hell, 757 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 2: because he kept telling me. He was like, he's like, yeah, 758 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: you're going to school to be a therapist. But this 759 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: man said, you're a therapist in the disguise of a prophet. 760 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 3: You know. 761 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 2: He said, you're a prophet in the disguise of a therapist. 762 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 2: And so it I second guessed so much, and then 763 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: when I would be right, I was in the I 764 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: was it was already too late. Like, man, I dated 765 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: a girl and I'm not gonna get in this because 766 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 2: I don't even want to get hurt, this this type 767 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: of energy. But it cost me two years of agony 768 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: and pain. But God told me so I wouldn't break 769 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: up with her. I'm sitting at her house, sitting on 770 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: the living room floor, and God said, I'm getting ready 771 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: to shift this. This is like right before Christmas. The 772 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: girl takes sick. I basically was caring for her for 773 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: like several weeks and don't know, don't couldn't figure it out, 774 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 2: and I mean, and I never forget. When she got better, 775 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 2: she says, I think I'm falling out of love with you. 776 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a minute, I've been bathing you. 777 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: But God was ripping that thing apart because my manager, 778 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: Crystal had told me she said twelve. She called me twelve, 779 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 2: she said twelve. I don't think you should date that girl. 780 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: I don't have a good feeling. And my manager at 781 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: the time, it's a seer as well. When all this 782 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 2: stuff happened and this girl, I mean went on just 783 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: a tyrant, my manager called me. She stopped managing me. 784 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: She said, I can't manage you anymore because I'm afraid 785 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: of what's going to happen with this and exactly what 786 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: she told me. And I was so disobedient, but then 787 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: God was telling me. But I felt because this is 788 00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 2: the other thing too, I would say this to people, 789 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 2: stop saying yes to people. 790 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: And we haven't ran it by God. 791 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: But I've had to learn is go before God first 792 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: with everything everything, even in my business. God like this this, 793 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: this this retreat that I did, I said, God, how 794 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: do you feel? 795 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 3: And I felt they okay? In it spirit, you know 796 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 3: what I mean. 797 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: So because normally what we do is humans, we make 798 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 2: God decision, then we take it to God. Yeah, He's 799 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: a last resort. And then with the itch fall apart, You've. 800 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: Been like, oh man, that's so real, Jay, because even 801 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: with this live show, that we're doing in DC. We 802 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: were thinking of guests and they were like, did you 803 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: call someone so because we'll throw our names and I'm like, oh, 804 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: I know them. Did you call him? And I was like, no, 805 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: I didn't call him. And then I told that. Shanna 806 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 1: Wandal was like, God hasn't like it's not having settled 807 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: on my heart that this is the person. And I 808 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: was like, so I can't. I can't say that I 809 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: can't call him. He would not let me call certain people. 810 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: That's how I be choosing my guest. 811 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: I've have people that will say, hey, doctor j it's 812 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 2: such and such, and they was like, what is your protocol? 813 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: I said, it's a god thing. Yeah, because I need 814 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: people to experience healing for real and not just because 815 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 2: you want to get on here and tell your story exactly. 816 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: That is. 817 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 3: You all right with you? 818 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: All right with me? 819 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 2: Listen? 820 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: Wow, this is crazy, so much synergy faith. It clearly 821 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: is a huge part of who you are and your healing. 822 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: One thing I do want to know, especially for men 823 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: and women listening who may be going through something, what 824 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: were your prayers like during that low time? Were they anger? 825 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: Were you pleading? Or was it soft? Quiet? Prayers like 826 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: how did you talk to God during those times? Because 827 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: some people feel like there's only one way to talk 828 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: to him. 829 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 2: No, I was very honest with God and this is, 830 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 2: this is, and I'm gonna be as real as I 831 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 2: can be. I was honest because I really wanted to die, 832 00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: and I was upset at him because I was not dead. 833 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: And I the following morning, I'm sitting in my room 834 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: and I'm crying because I did not expect to wake up. 835 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 2: Am I Why am I still here? And this encounter 836 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 2: really transformed my life. I never forget it. Sitting on 837 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 2: the floor and the presence of God walks in my room. 838 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 2: It's so strong, crystal that I can't look up and 839 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm just crying. I can't stop crying, and I feel 840 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: the presence so powerful, and I'm saying to God. I 841 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: was like, man, why am I still here? I'm like, 842 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: I'm just and I'm like, man, I gotta figure out 843 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 2: if I'm here, what am I going to do with 844 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: this pain? And all I kept hearing them say is 845 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: give it to me, Give it to me. I literally 846 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: sit on the bed because I can't. I don't know 847 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: what to do. I'm crying I'm falling to my knees 848 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: and I'm just talking to God and I said, I'm 849 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: tired of hurting. 850 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 3: Just like that, I said, I'm tired of hurting. Man. 851 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just sitting there crying. I say, I'm 852 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: just tired. I'm tired. And I'm just hearing him saying, 853 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: give it to me, give it to me, And he says, 854 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: I promise you, I'm gonna use it. Yes, And I'm 855 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: sitting there and I said for what? 856 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: Use it for what? 857 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're gonna And that is the 858 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: most difficult thing. I don't care where you are in 859 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: your relationship with God, is to trust him when he 860 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: says to give you something, because I don't know what 861 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna do with the God. And I know that 862 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: you say that you love me, and I know that 863 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 2: the plans that you have for me are deprivesed for 864 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: me and all these different things. 865 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 3: I know that you call me blessed. 866 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm to see the Abraham, But I don't know what 867 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 2: you're gonna do with this pain. I don't know what 868 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna do with this marriage. I don't know what 869 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna do with this career. I don't know what 870 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna do with this, this idea, and so it's hard. 871 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: And so I wish church people would stop acting like 872 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 2: it's so easy to give something to him. 873 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: It's not. 874 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, because giving it to him is a daily is 875 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 2: a daily walk. I have to release it daily. Yes, 876 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: I have been releasing my pain daily because of the memories. 877 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: Because trauma it doesn't just impact the body. It doesn't 878 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: just impact the way you think you're impacted by it. 879 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: Because of the tapes. It's like a videotape, like a 880 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: tape that's constantly being played. And this is why I 881 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 2: believe in advanced modalities that therapy may not be the way. 882 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a form of somatic healing. Maybe it's TMS 883 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 2: transcranial magnetic stimulation where you got to set the device 884 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 2: on your head and you got to allow them to 885 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: stimulate your brain because of the impact of the trauma. 886 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: And I had so much pain and my trauma, I 887 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: was just like God, I don't know. 888 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 3: And I remember being on my knees and I remember. 889 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: Doing this surrendering, surrendering, surrendering, and I'm crying surrendering. So 890 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: after this happened, I get on the phone with my 891 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: mom and I called her and I said, and I'm 892 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: crying still. I said, Mama, I said he came. And 893 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: she said what I said, he came. She said, what 894 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 2: are you talking about? 895 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 3: I said, Mama, Jesus came and visited me today. She 896 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 3: just started crying. 897 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh my God. 898 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said. 899 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: I was in prayer this morning and I said, God, 900 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 2: go see about my son, my. 901 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: Lord, and he did the prayers of a mother. 902 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 2: She said, God, go see about my boy. And I said, Mama, 903 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to hold on because he told me to. 904 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: Give this to him. 905 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 906 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 3: And that was that moment for. 907 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: Me that it wasn't a prayer that was playing. It 908 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: wasn't some words. I didn't have to pontificate, you know 909 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I didn't have to be so magniloquent 910 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 2: and speak so eloquent. God just needed out my raw feelings. 911 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 2: God doesn't need us to be so polished. He needs 912 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 2: us to be naked. He need us to be vulnerable. 913 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: I think we you know, we try to. Oh God, 914 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: I just need you to know. God needs you to sometimes, Hey, 915 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 2: where are you? Where are you man? You told me 916 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 2: you was gonna help me, where's the help. He don't 917 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 2: need these cute prayers. Sometimes it's just Jesus. 918 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: That's it, Because Crystal, that's all I had. 919 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 2: I didn't pray for a couple of years. I didn't 920 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 2: have any words. And I remember sitting still one morning, God. 921 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 3: Said, I hear you without even praying. 922 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because sometimes the human mind is so weighted down 923 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 2: from the pain, from the burden, from the atrocities of 924 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: just life, that you don't even have anything that's say yes, 925 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 2: and all you can do is just sit there. And 926 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: I had to learn that sometimes he just wanted us 927 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 2: to sit there. 928 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Sit there. It's so funny you 929 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: say that. I do a live with on my Patreon 930 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: with my Sweeties, and one girl said, what do I 931 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: do Like when I can hear God's voice and I'm 932 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: trying all these different things and nothing's working. And I 933 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: was like, sometimes you're not hearing it because you're going, going, going. 934 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: You need to sit down so you can hear him down. 935 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: It's like God's trying to stop you from making these 936 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: mistakes and from doing these things, but you won't sit 937 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: down long enough to sit with him. That listen, there's 938 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: power in the stillness. 939 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 3: You know. 940 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: Mother Teresa says something that God is a friend to silence, 941 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 2: stillness and solitude, Like we gotta get still, get silent 942 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: and and and and be in that solitude, be in 943 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 2: that state where you can just rest. 944 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 3: We have such a busy lifestyle. 945 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 2: I tell people, I mean people that are not doing 946 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: nothing busy because they're busy doing nothing, you know what 947 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So even with myself, it's learning to just 948 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 2: sit with him and not say nothing and just to 949 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: rest and his present and to rest even and what 950 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't understand because God really just looking for obedience, 951 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 2: and I've had to learn that obedience is best displayed 952 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 2: when you don't understand what he's doing. And Crystal, I've 953 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 2: learned to trust him, to trust his methods when I 954 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 2: don't understand his acts, you know what I mean. Because 955 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 2: he's a God of order, He's a god of strategy. Yes, 956 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He's a great architect, and 957 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: so he's moving stuff that we don't even know. As 958 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 2: my mom said, baby, God protects foods and babies. So 959 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: there's times where he's working and we don't know he's working. 960 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 2: And I've had to learn and say, you know what, 961 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing. Man. 962 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but do you think because he always gonna do 963 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: his big one, he's always gonna do his biggest one. 964 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: We'd be like, wait, this is I wouldn't even thought 965 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: of this. He's like, I know because I'm God. And 966 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: you're not listen. 967 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 2: When people say, man, did you ever that my grandma 968 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 2: used to call me doctor J. 969 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: Your girl. So that's before you became a doctor. 970 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: She's to call me doctor J wow, or so she'sa 971 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 2: call me doctor J. And you couldn't have told me 972 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: because I know the game of football. I loved it. 973 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: But man, you could have never told me that I 974 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: would be a therapist, would be in this position and 975 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: be this voice, to be you know, a reflection of 976 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: what healing looks like in real time, to be this 977 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 2: black man who has been in a white house, who 978 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 2: has been all over the country speaking and had a 979 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 2: tour of books. 980 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 3: And you told me that. 981 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: Man. 982 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 2: Ten years ago, I've been like, man, I've been like Negro, 983 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 2: please please like what therapist? 984 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 3: Like mental health? Man? And I remember this, this prophet 985 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 3: telling me, he said God. 986 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 2: Is going to use you, and I'm like, whatever, man 987 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 2: like literally Christ. 988 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: He was like, God is going to use you to 989 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 3: transform the world. 990 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: And I remember laughing at this man ever did at 991 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: the angel when they tol. 992 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a baby you okay, listen. 993 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 2: That man called me ten years later said what I 994 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 2: tell you. I was sitting on the couch. This is 995 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 2: when Taragi had her show Peace of Mind. He prophesied. 996 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: He said, I see you sitting on the couch with 997 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: the celebrity and you're talking about healing and da da 998 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: da da. 999 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 3: He called me ten years later when. 1000 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 2: The episode aired, Hey, man of God, of God, and 1001 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 2: he said, I told you what I saw. 1002 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 3: That God was going to use you the mighty way. 1003 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 3: I just broke down. 1004 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 2: So when you say he gonna do his big one, 1005 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: and here's the other part, I gotta say this. 1006 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 3: People like, uh, we didn't even see this for ourselves. 1007 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: No, not to this magnitude. I didn't even want to 1008 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: do a podcast. 1009 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 3: But let's forget the podcast. 1010 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: Like, but even I wanted to be an actor, like 1011 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: that was a childhood yam. I wanted to be a singer. 1012 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: But the impact that we had to this magnitude. Never 1013 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 1: thought it like I just wanted to be an artist 1014 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 1: and then keep all this my personal self to myself, 1015 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: Like I wasn't trying to share my whole life with 1016 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: the world, but here we are. You know. 1017 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 3: Do you ever wake up any mornings it just be like. 1018 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: Wow, Like every day every morning. I wake up every day. 1019 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: I pull into my garage every day. Even just like 1020 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: I was talking to guy the other day, I was like, 1021 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: because just seeing cars, Oh, those cars that drive themselves 1022 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: pull it. 1023 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 3: Out in front of me. 1024 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: Wait move, I was like, what is happening right now? 1025 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: And then I just thought. I was like, God, thank 1026 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: you for the wrecks that I can't see. You know, 1027 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: It's like moments I'm always like, wow, this is crazy, 1028 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: just even my life, like I was on Live last night, 1029 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: and or even last week. We were this week we 1030 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: were filming and two people came up to me and 1031 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 1: asked me to pray for them. I'm like, my friend 1032 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: Brenda Palmer, she's you know, Brenda, she's always like she 1033 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: caused me pastor. And then my other friend called me 1034 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: first lady. 1035 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm like like you like, no, don't, don't y'all put 1036 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: that on my friend. 1037 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: She's gonna say, all right, PC, you have like stopping Brenda. 1038 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,720 Speaker 1: She hates when people call it but you're a pastor. 1039 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 3: Like, because some people that's what they call to do. 1040 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 2: Yes, God has blessed us because we're not tied to 1041 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 2: the four walls. 1042 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:19,919 Speaker 1: No, we are. 1043 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 2: We minister through entertainment, acting, through podcast, through speaking, and 1044 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 2: through curating, curating spaces. Like I told God, I'll do 1045 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, but do not put me 1046 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 2: in no church. 1047 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: And honestly, I feel like God is doing a restrection 1048 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: of the church anyway, because it's not that we are 1049 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: the church. That's not what He meant for it to be. 1050 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 3: But Crystal, this is ministry. 1051 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: It is. 1052 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 2: What you're doing is ministry. Ministry is meeting people where 1053 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: they are. 1054 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 3: This is ministry. 1055 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 2: You're meeting people because not only because if you tell 1056 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 2: me to keep it positive, that means I have to 1057 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 2: think positive. 1058 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you got to change your mind. 1059 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: I have to change. 1060 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 2: But but when you think about the word repent is 1061 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 2: even in the Greek meta Noah, come on now, the 1062 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 2: word so stop. 1063 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 3: Let me Yeah. 1064 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 2: So when you when you think about repent is in 1065 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 2: the Greek meta, Noah, it is a change to change 1066 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 2: the way you think. 1067 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 3: That's what it means. 1068 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 2: So it's not, you know, and even when you think 1069 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 2: about sin, like because even we I mean, it's just 1070 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 2: like you know, I just love God has given me 1071 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 2: such as beautiful mind. You know what I mean to 1072 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 2: deconstruct people's mind because even when we look at sin, 1073 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 2: it means to miss the mark. 1074 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: Yep, that's what it means. 1075 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 2: And if you can change the way you think, you 1076 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: minimize missing the mark. So if we're going to get 1077 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 2: people to turn away from sin and to get them 1078 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 2: to quote unquote repent, we have to help people change 1079 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: the way they think. It starts in these spaces. It 1080 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 2: starts because this is mental health. What you're doing is 1081 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 2: mental health. You getting on them lives. Yeah, that's mental help. 1082 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: Yes, no, literally, people leave change. Like we've seen the 1083 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: testimonies of people like just from coming into this community, 1084 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: the lives we saved me opening also about suicide, and 1085 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: opening up about relationships with my family and helping mothers 1086 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: and daughters heal their relationships. It's been so many positive 1087 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: outcomes that have come from just speaking our truth. 1088 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: And that's why God keep blessing you. 1089 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1090 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 2: Wow, that's why God keep giving you more because He 1091 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 2: can trust you with it. 1092 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my prayer too. 1093 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 2: He can trust you with it and you don't have 1094 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 2: to keep praying. 1095 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 3: He can trust you with it because he didn't because 1096 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 3: as I'm. 1097 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 2: Speaking, I'm speaking to me because it'd be scared me 1098 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 2: because I'm like, you give me a lot, God, to 1099 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: who much is given. 1100 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 3: Yes, it's the. 1101 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: Requirement, the big requirements, and the. 1102 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 3: Requirement is really the responsibility. 1103 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because I don't want to mishandle the gift. 1104 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to mishandle the call, and I don't 1105 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: want to mishandle people. Yeah, that's that's my burden. It's 1106 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: like God, listen, Like even with my prophetic gift, like 1107 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm in spacing that people pull on. 1108 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 3: It and and. 1109 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 2: And people will ask like you because you can always 1110 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: because it takes a prophet to identify enough profit like truly, 1111 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 2: because it's a difference to walk in the to have 1112 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 2: a prophetic gift, but also to walk in the office 1113 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 2: of that. But there are spaces that I'm in that 1114 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 2: that pulls on that, and I give the word and 1115 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 2: I leave because I never like I'm not you know, 1116 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm just a man and my focus daily is how 1117 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 2: can I be a better instrument to fit into God's 1118 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 2: hands so he can use me. 1119 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 3: That's it, you know, And that's what we're doing. 1120 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 2: And that's why God keeps expanding us, because we have 1121 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 2: a heart for his people. And she said to me, 1122 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 2: he said, here's what people don't realize. 1123 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 3: You didn't ask for that. 1124 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why He gave it to you. 1125 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: Folks, be mad at what we what we have been given. 1126 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 3: We didn't ask for this. You just wanted to be 1127 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 3: an artist. I just wanted to be a football player. 1128 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: And my my dream was playball, you know, make a 1129 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 2: little money to buy a house, have a family. Like 1130 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 2: I never wanted to be all over the country. I 1131 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: like being at home. 1132 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: It was like I have other plans for you. 1133 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 2: Listen, every time I got to leave my house, I 1134 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 2: just be like, Lord, only for you, Man, only for you. 1135 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: I love home. I'm like I can just say there. 1136 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 3: Man, I'm such a homebody. 1137 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 2: I get on that couch and turn that TV on 1138 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 2: after I do my workout and my mal prep. 1139 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 3: It's cook, I'm not coming at this house. 1140 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: You're like me, I have to recharge, Like home is 1141 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: like my recharging station, and like for real, like that's right. 1142 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 3: How big is your social battery. 1143 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Oh very it's very small, very limited. Yeah, yeah, like 1144 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: my team knows. I'll give him that look like Big West. 1145 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: I can just look at him and he be like, 1146 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,760 Speaker 1: all right, come on, like because it's it's a lot. 1147 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: It's a lot, and they pull they pulled, Yeah. 1148 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Because you got that all on you. You got their 1149 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 3: glow and everybody want the bruise, not who's the master 1150 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 3: show enough. 1151 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: That is so true. 1152 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 3: We're telling our age right now for real. 1153 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Twenty five five, twenty five Christmas, Chris is twenty five, 1154 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm thirty two forever. 1155 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 3: So you got that, you got that glow on you. 1156 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Man, the warning it is it's joy though honestly, it's 1157 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: like it's not given by the world. I can definitely 1158 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: say that this. 1159 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 3: Here's the other part, man. They be a t to you. 1160 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 3: They don't even know why. 1161 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: They don't know why. People say that all the time. 1162 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: They said, I see you on TV. It's like it's 1163 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: just something about her, and I always say, it's the Lord. 1164 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: I ain't got none to do with it. 1165 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 2: I remember my mentor telling me, he said me, tell 1166 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 2: you something, man, he gonna know I'm telling this. He said, listen, 1167 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: what you got on you? Is you gotta steward it well? 1168 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 2: He said, you got this football bill, chocolate, you speak well. 1169 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: He said, everything gonna be attracted to you. 1170 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: And he looked at me, everything, Williams, everything everything, everything. 1171 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: That's true, man, because some of the stuff, I'll be 1172 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: looking at me, like. 1173 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 2: I said, but he said, look at me. And when 1174 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 2: he said that, man, I'll be daggon man, because the 1175 01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 2: anointing draws. Yeah, it's a drawer and it draws everyone right, rong, 1176 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 2: red blue. 1177 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 4: It's like I don't know what it is, but I 1178 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 4: want it and as we got to review it in 1179 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 4: the name of Jesus, because no, but that is so 1180 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 4: true and a lot of we don't even be knowing, 1181 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 4: like what all comes with I'm sure you didn't know 1182 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 4: everything that came with this life and living it. 1183 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: And like you talked about when when you take these platforms, 1184 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: it's not just you anymore. It's so you open up 1185 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: for the audit, as Stevie Bag said, and that is 1186 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 1: so true. We open ourselves up to a lot and 1187 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: we don't realize how much comes along with this man. 1188 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 2: I and it's my mother, Mama, I want you to 1189 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 2: know publicly, baby, how much I appreciate you. My mother 1190 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 2: wakes up every morning at three thirty in the Inner 1191 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 2: Seed for me, that means so much to me. Crystal, 1192 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 2: every morning she wakes up at three thirty at Inner Seed, 1193 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 2: and that's something more. 1194 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 3: I'll call at five o'clock. You'd be like, boy, you know, I'm. 1195 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 2: Just coming out of the room for you. You traveling 1196 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 2: this country healing these men. You got a mighty you 1197 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 2: got a mighty mandated mission on you. Boy, boy, you 1198 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 2: got a big assignment, but you're gonna complete it. And 1199 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 2: she told me recently, she said, King, I pray for 1200 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 2: you often because she said you have such a good heart. 1201 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 2: And when you have a good heart, and I'm sure 1202 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 2: you know this, is that you want to see everybody 1203 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 2: get there. Yeah, And I think the toughest thing for 1204 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 2: me was that the circles would change because everybody can't go. 1205 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Please come back next week as we continue this incredibly 1206 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: insightful conversation with doctor King. J. Barnett