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<v Speaker 3>For more information. Welcome to the Solid Verbal come.

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<v Speaker 2>That for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy. You want to be happy? For day A

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<v Speaker 2>to state? Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Whoom whoom and down and tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Solid Burbo boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ty Hildenbrand, joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>As always over there and beautiful, still wintry, still.

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<v Speaker 2>Very fatherly New York City. My man Dan Rubistet, Sir,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you, Ty?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really truly glad you asked. I just got a haircut.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh feels it feels great to do something for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, especially right now. I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>So so I would connect with you to show you

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<v Speaker 2>the haircut.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that might be a bridge too far. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>did you go? Do you go barber shop? What do

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<v Speaker 3>you do? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I go to a barber shop. It was I used

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a salon tye. Yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Really kids, so you can't you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>that or eight kids. I looked up barber shops in

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<v Speaker 2>the area on YELP. Tie here we are here.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't go. I don't go the full.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people will go that full real closely cropped,

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<v Speaker 2>almost shaved side.

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<v Speaker 3>Look the maclamore right. Not for me. Not.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot pull it off. I know he would probably

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<v Speaker 2>behoove you too with the main that you need shearing

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<v Speaker 2>on top of your head, but it doesn't work from

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<v Speaker 2>my head shape.

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<v Speaker 1>What what size guard do you go with on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of your head?

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<v Speaker 3>All scissors? Tie? I want mertisanal work. Oh yeah, all scissors?

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<v Speaker 3>You pay extra for that? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Same price? Same price? Tie, it's March, March.

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<v Speaker 3>I go a number three on the sides. That's not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever pushed it to two?

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<v Speaker 2>I have pushed it to two Mammy too much. That

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<v Speaker 2>two is a little too much, a little too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you something, Tie. Not only is it

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<v Speaker 2>March and we're beginning shows with haircut talk, I really

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<v Speaker 2>desperately wanted to talk news, news, and like the big list,

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<v Speaker 2>we have new bowls in twenty twenty in terms of alignment.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mountain West is no longer going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the Vegas Bowl, but they'll be in the new LA Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>which is in the new Rams Chargers Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe they'll line up for that, sure, not uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Vegas one is going to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas NFL Stadium, Okay, all right, putting pack twelve teams

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<v Speaker 2>in NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>State college football venue. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Kelly wants to retire a Notre Dame coach. Okay, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>not not much. So we're just going to ignore news.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just not much worth talking about. We still have

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<v Speaker 2>a couple more autopsies left. I believe, Yes, we have

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<v Speaker 2>two pack twelve Big ten Rose Bowl schools.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to talk about that today. No, it

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<v Speaker 2>had been basically too long since the Patriot League Lightning Rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>where I get to use all sorts of interesting adjectives.

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<v Speaker 2>So I figured we pick up people along the way. Ty,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody just wants college football podcast to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to its week seven and boom, we're talking about Keem Butler,

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about Cliff Kingsbury potentially getting fired and going

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<v Speaker 2>to USC And that's it's amazing that you just jump in,

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<v Speaker 2>you grab a hold, and we're your new pals.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's what we what we do here.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at the logo under the solid verbal,

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<v Speaker 2>it says Ty Hilton Brandt, Dan Rubins, it's right. And

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<v Speaker 2>we could, yes sound self important by saying let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about us, but it's a podcast you already know are

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<v Speaker 2>self important, so you already know that's the direction we're

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<v Speaker 2>going in. But if you want to know the history

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, if you're new to the show, you

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<v Speaker 2>can just google it. We did an entire, what pushing

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<v Speaker 2>two hour episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Big big show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I lost my voice, remember I had vocal issues

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<v Speaker 1>after doing the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Left it all on the field. You injured yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But if people that are relatively new to the show

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<v Speaker 2>want a point of reference about us as college football fans,

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<v Speaker 2>Tie is of course a Notre Dame fan. I am

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<v Speaker 2>an Oregon fan. But what gets us going? Why do

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<v Speaker 2>we love the sport? Not the pageantry, not the tradition,

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<v Speaker 2>forget all that, the literal sport itself. Tie, I do

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<v Speaker 2>not like We'll sprinkle in some characteristics of our love

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<v Speaker 2>for college football here and there, but we really haven't

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<v Speaker 2>drilled down on what really really gets us worked up

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<v Speaker 2>about college football football wise, what gives us, what gives

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<v Speaker 2>us the vapors? Yes in a college as a buried,

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<v Speaker 2>g rate g g way, grated, g rated way.

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<v Speaker 3>Of saying that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you hear this a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>podcasting world as it relates to comedy podcasts, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a million of them and everyone's a little bit different,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's important if you're trying to find a comedy

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<v Speaker 1>show that speaks to you, that you listen and try

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<v Speaker 1>to identify with the sensibilities of the hosts. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what we're trying to do here. We realize

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while since we connected with some new

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and newer listeners, and we wanted to try and

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<v Speaker 1>communicate our sensibilities. Just as it relates not to the

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<v Speaker 1>media aspect of college football, not to not to anything

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<v Speaker 1>other than the product.

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<v Speaker 3>We see on the field. So that's what we've got

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<v Speaker 3>here tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what gets our hearts raising, what gets our our

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<v Speaker 2>football pants nice and tight? Right, So we've got a list.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a list here, get hot in here. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a list here. I'm on one side, you're on

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<v Speaker 2>the other. We made these independent of one another, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was pleased to see that there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of overlap. Yes, a lot of overlap here, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ven diagrams that we need to work through and

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<v Speaker 2>talk through over the span of the next sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>however long this goes. Really it's free content. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>we're headed tonight. So I would like you to set

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<v Speaker 2>the mood, if you will tie, and in reference to

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about, Like an example would be, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>likes the large man touchdown, right, there was an award.

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<v Speaker 3>About that that got touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And so we are going to go many many

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<v Speaker 2>steps further of just things that happened during games that

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<v Speaker 2>I think the kids on Twitter say, like inject that

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<v Speaker 2>into my veins, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you will tie, I'm going to play this. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how this is going to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Balding, urs, foul hands to the face, not necessary roughnessial touching, neutrals,

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<v Speaker 4>out fraction, sportsmanline, god.

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<v Speaker 2>Dot oh boy, Dan, oh boy, really went skinemax with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Tie.

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<v Speaker 1>How much time did you spend making that? Marilyn Chambers

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<v Speaker 1>bedtime drop for our lovely podcast from where We Talk College.

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<v Speaker 2>Football shout out Bikini car Wash. Not that it did

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<v Speaker 2>not take that long a time. I was thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>what sort of song and musical number can we use

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<v Speaker 2>to go into our love of what gets us going

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<v Speaker 2>in college football? And three seconds later, uh, for better

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<v Speaker 2>or worse? All right, that's the direction they say. March

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<v Speaker 2>comes in like a lion, Dan, and they weren't kidding. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, give me something that gets you hot and bothered?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start at the very top of my list

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<v Speaker 1>what I love and what gets me hot and bothered

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<v Speaker 1>in a college football since I love when wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>catch a screen pass, or even when they catch a

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<v Speaker 1>pass ten yards down the field and they decide that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be better to run east and west. About

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five yards than to just run north and south

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<v Speaker 1>to gain four. So we've got this long drawn out

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<v Speaker 1>play with way too many jukes. A guy runs a

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<v Speaker 1>total of about seventy five yards for roughly a four

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<v Speaker 1>yard game.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was a brand new line about this,

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<v Speaker 2>right there was this isn't high school. This isn't high school,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there wasn't that home on a Saturday night. I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea, yes, but there's something very high school

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<v Speaker 2>about thinking I can run horizontally and find a crease

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<v Speaker 2>and it just doesn't work in high level college football.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one has a bunch of cousins, right that

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<v Speaker 2>has the punt returner trying to go backwards. Yep, it

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<v Speaker 2>has on a reverse trying to reverse the reverse where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the stadium stadium knows something is feudile. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it so much. I think this is dead on.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a lovable aspect of college football. Thinking

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<v Speaker 2>every play can be a touchdown. It gets me going

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<v Speaker 2>to ty well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you used to be full disclosure again, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the history of the solid verbal show.

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<v Speaker 1>You used to be a Florida State fan. I did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in your in your very early days of being in

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<v Speaker 1>college trip oflef and you're a Florida State fan, And

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<v Speaker 1>was it Peter Warwick?

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<v Speaker 3>Who was your dude? Peter Warwick? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And there are certain the the one percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>one percent can pull it off. The d' Anthony Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>and the oh god, I'm what's his name, Percy Harvin's

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<v Speaker 2>who have just such electric playmaking ability that they're able

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<v Speaker 2>to make something out of nothing because they can get

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<v Speaker 2>to a corner faster than anybody everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. See that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes you can find a ron Dale Moore out

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<v Speaker 1>there who can pull something like this off, a trendon

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<v Speaker 1>holiday type, but other times it's just a little too

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<v Speaker 1>much horizontal and not enough vertical. You've got a cousin

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<v Speaker 1>here listed on your list as well that we do

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<v Speaker 1>a few cousins, a few cousins, so the big family

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<v Speaker 1>on your list. This is one of those items where

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<v Speaker 1>we I think have some alignment. Too many jukes after

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<v Speaker 1>a swing pass, oh the best and a guy just

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<v Speaker 1>getting tackled on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, running backs out in the in the slot? Is

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<v Speaker 2>he going is it going outside? He's going inside? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>he's faking outside, Oh a fake inside. He's gonna go Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>what faked outside? He's going in, so he must be

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<v Speaker 2>going inside. Now up, He's just tackled for a loss

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<v Speaker 2>of one, and that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the running back who decides to run backwards

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<v Speaker 1>out of a sure thing forward progress whistle and he

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<v Speaker 1>loses unnecessary yardage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best. It is so good, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most secretly painful things if it happens

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<v Speaker 2>to your team, where it's like, oh, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>great run. Stuff, they got him three yards behind that No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>oh god, it's an eleven yard loss. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>people listening have immediate names that come to mind of

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<v Speaker 2>the like far too horizontal, far too juky, far too

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<v Speaker 2>running out of the forward progress whistle, and it is maddening.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I'm watching a random Oklahoma Iowa state game

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't really care who wins, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just art? Tie? It is just art.

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<v Speaker 1>This to me speaks to the excitability of college football,

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<v Speaker 1>the raw potential of college football, everyone's love for that

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<v Speaker 1>big game breaking play, and also the very nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the college game where you've got a lot of immaturity

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of folks out there thinking that they're

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love this. I love when this happens. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>not to my team, but it always makes a game

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more exciting. I am, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>very guilty in rec league basketball. Off too many jukes

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<v Speaker 2>on a fast break up going left, going right, jukes. Huh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just pulling up, just pulling up.

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<v Speaker 3>You have trapped me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm retired from basketball, but my move was always to

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<v Speaker 1>go and bury myself in the corner and try and

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<v Speaker 1>pop a three. As you know, I'm not, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly playing the post up game with my basketball skills.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a good shooter at least? Not really?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Okay, so you're just scared of contact. Is that's

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<v Speaker 2>your roundabout waist?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so? I think? So okay, moving one going,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you have? No, it's your turn, Oh it's

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<v Speaker 3>my turn. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a good failed trick play. Oh that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That gets me sweaty tie. And this encompasses a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So this could be a statue of liberty. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be a double pass, it could be reverse, a flea flicker,

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<v Speaker 2>a fake field goal, a fake punt. And there's cousins

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<v Speaker 2>to these as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the.

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<v Speaker 2>A fake field goal that is executed perfectly and then

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<v Speaker 2>the kicker throws it six yards short of the intended target.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so much good in a failed trick play. And

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<v Speaker 2>the cheese at Bowl, we had the double pass, double

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<v Speaker 2>pass forward pass.

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<v Speaker 3>I still don't fully understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were throwing it to the sideline, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to throw it a little bit backwards,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a lateral but he threw it a yard forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they threw it forward again on the double pass.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough, but the you know, the the flea flicker fumble,

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to say, the double pass which ends up with

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<v Speaker 2>like a receiver throwing it, but it's slipping out of

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<v Speaker 2>the receiver's hands and they have to now go back

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<v Speaker 2>and say, like was his hand moving forward without anybody

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<v Speaker 2>defending him. All of these things and I am pro

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<v Speaker 2>trick play, I am pro fakes, I am pro punters

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<v Speaker 2>just getting creamed because they went the wrong way on

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<v Speaker 2>a fake fake punt. It's there's just something about it

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<v Speaker 2>where it's just like it's also one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>where the announcers will say, like got too cute, got

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<v Speaker 2>too cute. But if it works. It works, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just for me to quote Jimmy World, it is heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to unpack this a little bit, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I want to call attention to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you specifically mentioned a failed trick play, a failed

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<v Speaker 1>trick play. Why does a failed trick play get the

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<v Speaker 1>specific call out here and not as successful?

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<v Speaker 2>So successful trick plays are great, They're irrefutably great, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is something about a failed trick play in in

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<v Speaker 2>practice You're like, Okay, we spent a little bit extra

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<v Speaker 2>time drawing something up, and this is we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>pull out it, pull it out in the exact right

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<v Speaker 2>situation that so many things have to go into it,

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<v Speaker 2>that there's just something chaotic that doesn't exist in it's

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<v Speaker 2>third and eight. We're going with like a pass up

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<v Speaker 2>the same Oh, it was a little bit too far

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a failed play. But with a failed trick play,

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<v Speaker 2>the chaos potential. Somebody who's not used to throwing it

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<v Speaker 2>has to throw it. Somebody who's not used to running

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<v Speaker 2>it has to run it. Somebody who has to generally

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<v Speaker 2>kneel and catch a snap for a hole is suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>rolling out. There's so many new mechanisms involved with a

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<v Speaker 2>trick play that when it goes wrong, you get somebody

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<v Speaker 2>running so fast and they've never run fast in a game.

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<v Speaker 3>They just trip. They just trip. And I love the

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<v Speaker 3>novelty of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking, we're talking in Ocean's eleven caliber. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>scheme that needs to be executed to perfection.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a what's what is? It's the Rube Goldberg machine? Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that you know there are so many new parts that

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<v Speaker 2>need to align perfectly that when one thing goes wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a catastrophe. Okay, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we see it with high stakes moments in

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia and the SEC championship game. Okay, we see it

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<v Speaker 2>with no stakes moments, and it's just all things are

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<v Speaker 2>equal to me. It could be an Naia fake punt

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<v Speaker 2>gone horribly awry. You remember the old The Colts had

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<v Speaker 2>the terrible fake punt. A couple of years ago in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, we had what was it a Miami Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>State game where there was the punt coverage team faked

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<v Speaker 2>falling forward to his death.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just okay, you're opening up a realm to a

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<v Speaker 2>world that nobody's fully prepared to look at Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>love it, so I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to call out.

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<v Speaker 1>Two specific things here that I don't believe you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you danced around one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is you talked about the wide receiver pass,

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<v Speaker 1>something that I always get a good chuckle out of,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe someone's done the numbers on this. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to know the percentage of wide receiver passes or

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver has the wherewithal to realize you probably

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't throw.

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<v Speaker 3>It, tuk and run.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be like ten percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>because those guys always want to throw it a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Are high school quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times it's their moment, right they feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they can genuinely make that throw and the wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver forcing the ball into triple coverage. Again, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>my team, it's not something I'm into, but just as

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<v Speaker 2>a casual observer, it is something that gives a game

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<v Speaker 2>a little more flavor. Cousin of that is surprise left

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<v Speaker 2>handed receiver. Surprise left handed receiver where you just assume

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's right handed, or there's just an overwhelmingly good chance.

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<v Speaker 3>That everybody right about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how many left handed quarterbacks are there in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there are any, right, not that I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Kellen Moore was the last one. Tua will

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<v Speaker 2>be next, not this year, but in the next draft,

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<v Speaker 2>so in two years, in twenty twenty. But there is

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<v Speaker 2>something disorienting and the two I remember, I remember Antonio

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<v Speaker 2>Brown and des Bryant. I remember Dez Bryant very well,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like it was like hearing an actor

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<v Speaker 2>who does a very good American accent on a TV

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<v Speaker 2>show and then you see him on a red carpet

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just like it was fun season, wasn't it,

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<v Speaker 2>And You're like, what the hell was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody on the wire.

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<v Speaker 2>British, there's something wonderfully disorienting about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>The other that's so true, Oh my gosh. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I would add, i'd bolt on top of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it's not so much a failed trick play,

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<v Speaker 1>though they often do fail. The class of trick play

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<v Speaker 1>that we also need to call out here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, those.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones where it's extreme misdirection and we've got a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who is literally trying to hide in the painting of

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. Yep or right along the sidelines, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even laying down on the numbers along the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the field to try and blend in so that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't see him. Or even if it's not that extreme,

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<v Speaker 1>where you've got two punt returners back and one is

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<v Speaker 1>waving his hand for a fair catcher, acting like it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to him when it's actually going to the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sort of that's a little bit different. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different. But it's a cousin, right, It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the half cousin. And I would add the like a

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<v Speaker 2>field goal with a guy running off the field, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's the eleventh guy and he stops right before the

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<v Speaker 2>sideline and there's nobody out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Same same genus. Yes, do we.

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<v Speaker 2>Think and I would love to see the footage if

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<v Speaker 2>it exists. Do we think on the end zone the

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<v Speaker 2>camouflage end zone when you know a Boise State player

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<v Speaker 2>is in a blue end zone or that's a bad example.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we had a TCU player in the Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State game attempt it. Do we think pregame there is

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<v Speaker 2>like a secret run through where that player, whoever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Rager, I forget who it was, goes with like

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<v Speaker 2>the special teams coordinator to that pylon area and they

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<v Speaker 2>just say, this is the zone lay down real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>let's run through it. Because if we're running through plays

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going through the first team offensive line, second

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<v Speaker 2>team offens line, whatever, during during the walk through before

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<v Speaker 2>the game, do you think there's that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is the corner, this is the move.

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<v Speaker 2>Act, stretching, active push, the zuppruiter of that pregame walkthrough

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<v Speaker 2>because it's such a the the trying to camouflage slash,

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<v Speaker 2>make it seem like you're not on the field for

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<v Speaker 2>a play, but actually our trick play. I would take

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<v Speaker 2>home after a first date. I would probably introduce to

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<v Speaker 2>my parents after like a week. I am so all.

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<v Speaker 2>I am head over heels, sweating, need a cold shower.

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<v Speaker 2>That is That is George Costanza. I think it moved

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<v Speaker 2>territory right there. Whether it works or not, the gumption

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<v Speaker 2>to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's a player here, maybe there's not, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so great. I cannot get enough. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I feel like we unpacked a lot there

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually made progress as people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we absolutely did and it's you know what we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are football sex positive. Right, Okay, I'm gonna go yeah, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right, my yes, let's talk about the

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:13.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive player who does an elaborate dance after sacking the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback despite his team being down twenty one points.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am gonna say that this to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can explain it further, is a positive, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>I would agree, go on, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>an ironic positive. I'm saying it is a genuine positive

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<v Speaker 2>for me, no matter when it happens. Please explain your

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<v Speaker 2>love for it.

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<v Speaker 1>My love for it stems from I think, my visceral love,

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>my raw love for college football, just as something that

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<v Speaker 1>brings us all joy. Everybody knows when your team is

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.680
<v Speaker 1>down three scores, you shouldn't be out there doing any

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of celebratory dance.

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Act like you've been there, act like you've been there before. Scoreboard,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what are gonna say. But if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of that team, or if you're just watching the

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 2>game without a rooting interest, to just have someone out

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 2>there on the field who is at least feeling joy

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.160
<v Speaker 2>with something in this game, because by that point, look

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a blowout, game's over. That to me is fun

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. And there are many cousins of this. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, this isn't the only thing that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>falls into this category. But I am all about the

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>elaborate celebratory maneuvers after a touchdown, after a sack, win,

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.439
<v Speaker 2>the game is still close, after a pass breakup, I

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<v Speaker 2>am all about it. I don't care about the personal fouls,

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 2>the excessive celebration, and now the taunting less team unless

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 2>it's my team. Let's be clear, I don't care about

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the taunting. For the most part. I am all for this,

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.640
<v Speaker 2>have fun when you're out there. But the elaborate sack

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 2>dance down about three scores, to me is extra special. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing is so defensive ends the metrics we

0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 2>have for them. We have tackles for a loss and

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<v Speaker 2>we have sacks, and there are places like our friends

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 2>at Pro Football Focus that do pressures or hurries stuff

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 2>like that that those are not household statistics, at least

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 2>not yet. And so you say somebody is leading the

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<v Speaker 2>nation in sax, you mean, like, oh my god, that's

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:19.680
<v Speaker 2>an incredible a feat that is pretty much incomparable defensively,

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 2>where it's just like there's one guy who leads the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sacks are super hard, and this guy does it better

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>than anybody else. I just looked it up online because

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm great at the internet. Tie ygm Etre gross Matos

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>consider to be what a top level pass rusher in

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 2>college football. Sure, he finished with against Big ten teams,

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>big ten plays, I believe nine teams in their conference schedule.

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Now he finished with six and a half sacks against

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 2>Big ten teams, which again I went to a state school.

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>My math indicates that's fewer than one a game, and

0:23:55.560 --> 0:24:01.120
<v Speaker 2>he is considered among the best at this specific statistical accomplishment.

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 2>And it's less than once, fewer than once a game.

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>And so down twenty one, down forty seven, up twenty seven,

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 2>you're trying the entire If you get won a game,

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>you're all timer. Yeah, and so you just you got

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>to you gotta celebrate when you can tie. You can't

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.879
<v Speaker 2>let one go to waste. I will take it every time.

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned the cousins. Yes, my my truly favorite

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 2>cousin of this is when a safety and there was

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.520
<v Speaker 2>a safety for organ who was so great at this?

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:33.880
<v Speaker 3>JD.

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Nelson safety gives up a twenty seven yard pass on

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>third and twenty one, and big hit receiver holds on.

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Big hit guy pops up and celebrates. That's right, you

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 2>don't come over the middle. He just he just completed

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 2>an explosion play in a crucial situation that you did

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>not stop.

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I love the gumption once again of that, but it's

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it's more ironic in that case than the sack down

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty All.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Right, well let me so, let's do the ancestry DNA today.

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's do the ancestry DNA then on something that could

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>be really it might show up in like the fourth

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>or fifth cousin territory. Yeah, with low probability, you could.

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Marry this person and it would be at least okay, right, yeah.

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>What about along the same lines of the defensive back

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>gives up the big play, monster hits celebrates. What about

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the incredibly lucky defensive back.

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.479
<v Speaker 3>Yes you know what I mean by this.

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So like a receiver dropping a ball that was thrown

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>perfectly to exactly and the corner gets beat, and then

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>the ball is dropped and the corner gives like the

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>very dramatic incomplete, incomplete right exactly like his arms are

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>about to come out of the socket because he's waved

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 2>off in his head like Merton Hanks. Yeah, back right.

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Guy gets torched on a double moved delicious wide receiver

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 2>streaking down the field over the middle of the field,

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>a perfect throw that for some reason goes wrong, maybe

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.919
<v Speaker 2>a guy can't drag his foot along the boundary to

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 2>get the completion, and there is the defensive back who

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with that play's failure, just celebrating

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 2>like he drew it up at home. You don't come

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to Thai Islands without a visa. Yeah, that is. It's

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.640
<v Speaker 2>a wonderful thing. Sometimes it'll happen where a dB will

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>have a pass hit his helmet and then he will

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 2>celebrate as it like he is not at all turned

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>back to look at the ball and to high point

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>the ball or whatever hits his helmet, realizes in a

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>much delayed fashion that the pass is incomplete, and celebrates

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and also has to be told what happened. It's a wonderful,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:55.360
<v Speaker 2>wonderful thing.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you one that I just it's

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<v Speaker 2>very straightforward, and I just love it, and it's pretty

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>unstoppable in video games, and Sanford runs it three times

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a game and it always works one thousand percent of

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the time. That is the fake full back dive and

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback is let's say the quarterback has turned to

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>his right, fakes the full back dive hand off the pitch,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 2>then pitches it weak side to the other side, whether

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it's to Bryce Love or Christian McCaffrey or whoever, and

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 2>on third and one third and inches, fourth and one

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>fourth in inches. It's just brutal. It is just brutal,

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>and it is something that it makes me shake a

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:38.959
<v Speaker 2>little bit.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I love it so much.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.479
<v Speaker 1>See so this you mentioned this play as it relates

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to video games. Yes, this used to be a play

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>that didn't work at all. And then along the way

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>EA Sports show in our age here, but EA Sports, yeah,

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>decided that they would build the proper AI into the game. Huh,

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>so that defenses would act a little bit more realistic

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>in sometimes I fall for this right. And then if

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you had a good line, if you had recruited well,

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>if you got enough insta commits on your team, then

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>this is something that you could run in a key

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>situation to perfection. But it wasn't until the latter years

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>of the NCAA series where you could actually run a

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>pitch play and get any serious yardage.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I would never really run that like student body

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>left if I were running a pro style offense. But

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>the fake dive, because the dive is pretty effective in

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 2>video games third inches. Not many teams are stopping just

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>like a straight ahead dive, and then you throw in

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>who is I'm trying to think of the running backs

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>for Stanford that just every single one of them. Toby Gerhart,

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Toby Gerhart, Stephen Taylor yep, Taylor step Finn

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>was in against Notre Dame yep.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>I maintain.

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>There was there was something magical about that play that

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't fully hate because I was sitting at home saying,

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>this is what they should do, this is what they're

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna do, and I love being right, so I

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't fully get upset.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I just love that play.

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>The joy of the nc double A video game series

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to me not to make too much of a left

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>turn here. The joy for me always was in the

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>passing game, and it was so counterintuitive because you knew

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>if you had the proper beef up front, you could

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>run it down your opponent's throat, but you just didn't

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>want to. I got really good towards the end of

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that NC DOUBLEA series at calling a smart route which

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>was essentially a ten yard hook every play, and it

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was uncoverable. You could not cover it at all. You

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't cover it with zone, you couldn't cover it with man.

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 1>As long as you had a quarterback who could throw

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the ball to a spot with any amount of strength,

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that play was always open. Now they've changed it in

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the newer versions of Madden, where they've added a million controls.

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>What what does what anymore, but that, to me, that

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was the only play in my quiver, and it worked wonderfully.

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Did you have a play like that before?

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I talk about that? Screw you, because we played and

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I know what you're talking.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 3>That was my only play. It's the worst, the worst.

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I had a couple plays. I had some sort of

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>deep ends that worked really nicely against Cover two.

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>But God, I hated people like you. I was. I

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 3>was that Garst.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were the scorpion get over here of NCAA football.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I was going on YouTube and looking to see what worked.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I find you, I'd find the guy like.

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 3>What's up, boys, let's talk about smart roots, that sort

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 3>of thing.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Unstoppable all caps play? Yeah, all right, before we go

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<v Speaker 3>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, okay, So we had I think this

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>was in the Fantasy Things a couple of years ago.

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 2>A mishurdle, right, like a hurdle that goes wrong.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, like was.

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>It Melvin Gordon, one of them in the Rose Bowl

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>a few years ago, had one that He's like, I'm

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna hurd this dude. Whoops, I did not jump high enough.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a hurdle gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everybody is Saquon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everybody's Saquon Barkley. That's fine. I'm talking about hurdle's

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>going right. And that picture that inevitably gets taken of

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<v Speaker 2>the week side linebacker, the safety whoever trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>a textbook tackle, trying to wrap up and gets hurdled

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<v Speaker 2>and gets their picture taken at a perfectly parallel point

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>to the ground as they tackle nobody as they are

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they are m bisoning dulcim. If that's a point of

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 2>reference that you understand, and God bless you if you

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>do that, that is the I would argue the ultimate

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that what was the meme? It was something around like, yep,

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that's me. Bet you're wondering how I got here. Yeah,

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 2>moment in a football game and I both at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time feel so bad. I understand why we're watching

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>what we're watching, but I can't help but say, oh,

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>you dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb dumb fool. You are tackling nobody.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>And I can't get enough of that very specific picture

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>that is just for at least a day.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 3>A life ruin college football, no Man's Land. Yes, I

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>like it.

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Tackling ghosts, we talk about seeing ghosts, tackling ghost Tackling

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>ghosts my favorite thing.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me throw one out there that I've got on

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>my list. How do you feel about very poor field conditions?

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Hum? It depends what the conditions are. Because I like

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>a snow game a lot, and that would be interpreted

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 2>and so I like it. But mud, I don't know

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>if mud does it for me.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>See, now, we we've talked an awful lot on this

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>show about monsoon games.

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I feel like.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:09.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's no more mud really because we have field

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 2>turf everywhere now pretty much in a lot of places,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>but just puddles.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not everywhere.

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so obviously it takes the right combination of

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>weather and turf to truly achieve the mud bowl style

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 1>conditions that I'm referencing here.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 3>But a good mud game, a really good mud game.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>We're talking three inches of rain, downpour, they should have

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>postponed the game, but decided against it. It seems like

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in the South.

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Start having conversations about irrigation.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like in the Southeast we have a

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>couple opportunities for this every year. I'm talking full on

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>mud is I think number one on my power ranking

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>because you can at least alter the game in snow,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you know you can. You can adapt to more of

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a ground game and turn it into a smash mouth

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>three yards and a cloud of dust style offense.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 3>But when you've.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Got nothing but pure, unadulterated mud, you really can't do

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>anything because he can't hold onto the damn ball. No,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't call plays. The whole game sort of turns

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>into something it was not supposed to be. So if

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>it's your team, surely that is not a situation that

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you feel great about. But from the outside in as

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>an efficionado of the monsoon game, the extreme mud of

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a monsoon game that you see on the field again,

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>if they've got natural grass, that to me is very appealing.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>See the kissing cousin that I get super into is

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>when there are turf issues, not because of weather. Sometimes

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the time it'll happen inside. You remember

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 2>the Wisconsin Ohio State Big Ten championship game where the

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>carpet is ripped. That's the right goal line. I'm super

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>into that. I'm super into national championship games or big

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 2>time games on a field that is regular grass turf,

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>that like Levi staff right where it's just like there

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>is there's a group of people whose entire job it

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 2>is is to grow grass and to trim grass, and

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 2>to think about the right time to water and care

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>for this said grass. And then game time rolls around

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>and there's a sinkhole on the.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Thirty that's right, that's right.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Then there's there's a sprinkler that pops up at midfield

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 2>or oh yeah, they have to wheel this grass in,

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>and you just have this team of professionals who are

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>just like grass huh. And you're like, wait, what, this

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>is your job. This is the entire thing you do.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I am I am so amused by the fact that

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty nineteen.

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>It'll happen this year.

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Beyond of course it will twenty nineteen. In many cases,

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>these stadiums are hundreds of millions of dollars taxpayer funded,

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>and somehow the playing surface became an afterthought. Yes, the

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>playing surface is the whole reason they built the stadium,

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yet it's an afterthought.

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 3>How does that happen?

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>By the way, our pal Nicole Hourback wrote about the

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Arizona State turf, I don't know if it's good or bad.

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I know it's grass. And she wrote about the guy

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>who maintains it, the head groundskeeper. Yes, and it's a

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal piece. I think we mentioned it when we did

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>partnering with the athletic but now that I think about it,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I really hope that Arizona State has not had any

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>issues because I liked him so much. But it is

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>pretty astounding when there are Levi Stadium is a terrific example,

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 2>like how does this there is? It's the like you

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 2>had one job and this job is grass again, sink

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Cale it the thirty can't happen, and I love it.

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I love it when it does because it's just this

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 2>amazing spotlight on incompetence.

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 3>It's great. Let me throw out another one here. I'm ready.

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to get your take on this. I don't

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>know if this is something that we've ever discussed at

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>length on the show.

0:38:58.400 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 3>M M.

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I love everything about the rugby style punt.

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 2>You put this on our list, and I really had

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to think about what I thought about it.

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 3>My opinion, but expand Will the punter tuck it under

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>and run? Always?

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Always you're like, oh, will he won't see will the

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>defense get close enough to block the kick? There's a

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>lot more uncertainty with the rugby style punt. He almost

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 2>always the punter punts it away, sure, and they get

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.720
<v Speaker 2>that top spin on it. It's not the traditional punt

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that you're used to seeing if you watch football for

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>your entire life.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 3>It's wonk gear, for sure.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>It's different. It's more directional, right, it's a different style

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>of punting, but there's definitely a little bit more uncertainty

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in the process, and the punter, if he so desires.

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Has more options.

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>He can run it, he can decide he wants to

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.399
<v Speaker 1>throw it. He could bobble it and the whole thing

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>goes horribly wrong.

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's evering.

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I never felt great about this until I started thinking

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>more about it, And as I thought more about it,

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>it just always felt to me like there was so

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>much more uncertainty you with each play that I.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Sort of grew to love it.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 2>So for me, the rugby style punt encapsulates a lot

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>of what I love about college. About four years ago,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I was going for a run tie and I just

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>hit the smallest crack in the street and I didn't fall.

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I fell slowly, And there's nothing worse than just slowly

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 2>losing your balance and trying to Oh god, I'm going down,

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>big boys going down. And that is the concern to

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>me with the rugby punt. I guess it's even coupled

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 2>with the like if the turf is at all bad.

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever tried to run even

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent and then kick a ball as hard as

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you can, or kick it with accuracy, with you know,

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 2>in a pinpoint direction. It's one of those just like

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 2>the trick play going wrong and why that appeals to

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 2>me and my blood the rugby kick going wrong and

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 2>the announcers doing some quick math and saying, well, the

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>punt went for it looks like six yards yep, because

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:19.959
<v Speaker 2>the shank potential is through the roof. So I appreciate

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 2>the rugby punt in a vacuum. I am I am

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 2>willing to hook up with a rugby punt going wrong.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I am terribly afraid of every rugby punt going wrong,

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>so much shank potential there.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, shank potential, trip potential, punter being absolutely annihilated, and

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>then they have to have a competition on campus because

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 2>there's no other person on the table. Punt he's got

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 2>broken ribs, he can't move. Yeah, by the way, that's

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>another thing that's not on our list. But punter a

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>kicker tryouts in the middle of the tryout, Oh my god,

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't wish I were still in college. I

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 2>had a great time in college, but I'm glad I'm

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 2>not in college anymore. I implore anybody listening if your

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>school has open tryouts, to be a punter or a kicker.

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't even care if you try out, but if

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the only way you can go watch open tryouts,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>please do and report back. Oh my goodness, what do

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 2>you think is? What do you think is the longest

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 2>field goal you could kick? Could you make an extra point?

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>You don't think you can make a point? Kicking is heard,

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it is hard. I could make an extra point. I'm

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>confident I can make an extra point.

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 3>My favorite part of the open.

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Open tryout for a field goal, kicker or whatever is

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>inevitably that is like a talking point that the announcers

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 2>know about. Like, oh, Brian Thompson, you know, just last

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>week he was just a chemistry major. Now he's kicking

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>for Boston College. And he comes out and he looks

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 2>like an eight year old wearing a halloween costume. What

0:42:56.719 --> 0:43:00.080
<v Speaker 2>was the brand, huffy huffy that he was wearing one

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>of those plastic helmets. You're like, Oh, I think his

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.879
<v Speaker 2>shoulder pats might be on backwards. His cleats look way

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 2>too big, his cup looks like it's horizontal. No, there's

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 2>just a bunch wrong with the look of Oh. I

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>love it so much and I root for him. Let's

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 2>be clear. I want that dude to have a golden boot.

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but oftentimes no, not so much. All Right, I

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 3>did two in a row.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>You're true, Okay, let's.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Go with You know what.

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I love a good grab away fumble grab away front

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 2>so doesn't happen often.

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>So a guy just sort of rips it out.

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Guy rips it out, and especially rips it out, not

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 2>like in the middle of a pile. That'll happen, there's

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>nowhere for the ball to go. Sometimes guys just rip

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 2>it out and like Oh wow, No, I guess it's

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>all miss ball. It's more the open field during a tackle,

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>ed Reed just lays waste to a dude and in

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the process takes the ball and starts running the other direction.

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>It is such a pantsing, it is such that's a

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 2>humiliator that I can't help but want to do very

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>romantic things to that play. I love a good grab

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 2>away out of nowhere because it happens so bang, bang

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>right right, not to be too sure, bang. It happens

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 2>so quickly where you don't see anything scored out. Hey,

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>you don't see a scramble for a ball. It's just immediately, Oh,

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 2>everything has changed. The offense is now definitely the defense.

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And I love that moment of just complete and pure chaos,

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>without even a split second of a change of possession.

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>This is This is a first cousin of the quarterback

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>who inadvertently throws an interception to a defensive lineman, Yes,

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>who just goes streaming down the field for an.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 2>The defensive lineman like a nose tackle, who on one

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>play out of one hundred, drops back into coverage to

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>cover like shallow crossing routes, and there's an interception, not

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>because he tipped it, because he threw it right to

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 2>him at the line, but because he was like, you

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm gonna drop back real quick, see what happens.

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's just a little stinker about it. I love

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>that moment where Hellodi Nata is just I know, I'm

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 2>saying organ players where whoever where Mount Cody drops back

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>into coverage. You're like, oh wow, that was though. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>that's it's a it's a wonderful moment.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 3>All right, give me another one.

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this sort of falls under the trick play thing,

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. It's an unintentional trick play. When there's

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 2>a bad field goal or extra point snap and it's

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>very clear that there's no time to put the ball

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 2>down for the kicker. It's so a rhythmic, it's just

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 2>not going to happen, and.

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>The and the holder tries to put it down but

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 1>accidentally just lays the ball down.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>He has no other option, and then there is that

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>that moment again. It's one of those yep, that's me,

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I bet you wondered how we got here moments where

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I gotta do something, and then he is

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 2>is the huffy kid. He is the sprint out, the

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 2>throw to the corner of the end zone, hoping for

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the best. Obviously, it just goes straight out of back.

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 1>To the lineman who is ineligibly downfield, and to the lineman,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and one hundred out of one hundred times that holder's

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>helmet gets twisted around his head as a result of

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the play, where it's.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Just like the holder's a punter or like the third

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>string quarterback, and he just maybe grabs any helmet. He's like,

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm just holding it like whatever, and running for his life.

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Caleb Sturgis is just yelling at him, and it just

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>goes so horribly wrong, and the announcers say something like, well,

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 2>you gotta feel for that kid. He tried to make

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 2>something out of nothing, and there is never something. There's

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>never ever something but a twisted helmet.

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 1>And then there's always the shot along the sidelines, first

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>off of him walking to the sidelines in disgust, and

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 1>then once he gets there, oftentimes hanging around the medical tent,

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.839
<v Speaker 1>not sure if he's hurt enough to go in, not

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>willing to admit to himself or anyone that he's hurt

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.439
<v Speaker 1>enough to go in, but surely feeling the pain after

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 1>having his knees.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>He's never used the muscles no, that are necessary as

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 2>a holder to sprint out and throw a pass on

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 2>a route that's not supposed to even happen. He is

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 2>like a concussed hamstring. There's an injury that has not

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 2>even been diagnosed in the medical community. That's what the

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 2>holder has. And this is when they burn the red

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 2>shirt to get a new holder the following.

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Week open practice.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>The open practice, this is all fitting together.

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 3>What do you have?

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've got players fumbling the ball out of bounds

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>or through the end zone for a touchback.

0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see. This does not get me excited. This

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:52.240
<v Speaker 2>This is one where you say a golden shower, cold shower.

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you much better.

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>As far as you know, I am all about this,

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and I know it makes me among the very few

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>in college football media who's okay with this. Every time

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it happens, there are folks out there grumbling they should

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 1>move it back to the lines, should it be a

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>change of possession, the whole nine. I love this, really,

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I love this. Hold on to the damn ball if

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to score, if you don't, if you fumble

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it out. This is the one place on the field

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 1>where it will be doubly punishable to fumble it. Do

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>not fumble it through the end zone for a touchback.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I've never had a problem with it. I love every

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>time it happens. When it doesn't happen to.

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Mine, well, you act like it's something that can be controlled.

0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's stripped. It's not just somebody reaching and it

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 2>slips out of their hands.

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Well that's fair too, but yeah, don't being stripped. Yeah,

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>don't fumble the ball through the end zone. Otherwise they're

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>going to pay mightily for it.

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 2>But that's worth a turnover, worth a turnover with a

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:00.720
<v Speaker 2>non recovered fumble as a turnover.

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, I enjoy. I enjoy the fact that

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the rule is inconsistently applied when you get down to

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the very spot where it matters the most. I appreciate

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that in college football. And I know I'm in the

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>minority here, Yeah, I know it, but it does it

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 1>for me. Dan, I love it. I love that rule.

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 3>We should.

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I'm just going to jump in right

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 2>now because I'm positive everybody listening has like the certain

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 2>instances and plays and scenarios on the field that they love.

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Please do tweet.

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Us at solid Verbal, email us Solidverbal at gmail dot com.

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>We will recap the best of what you guys submit,

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.240
<v Speaker 2>probably on our next episode. Because it's the off season.

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>There are one million Yeah, it's the off season. There

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 2>are millions of scenarios that happen, and these are just

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are getting us going, even in the

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 2>cold of March.

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>The other thing that I would add is we're trying

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit more active on the Instagram feed,

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and this would be a good place if you if.

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>You're already follow send us a message to solid Verbal.

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>We'll post at solid Verbal right yeah, at soliverb.

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll post something both on the normal feed and in

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the story to try and solicit some other things that

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>we might have missed here.

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>And you're going to start gramming from the Mystery day Job,

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 2>right you were going to start?

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Ty'd be cool. It's just oh yeah, oh yeah, sure, Dan.

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.360
<v Speaker 2>That sounds like yeah, No, follow us on Instagram and

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 2>and message us your your scenarios that really get you going.

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>This one is one that sounds mean and cruel, but

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I promise you, I hope this is temporary and everybody

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:38.640
<v Speaker 2>is okay when I see this and that is and

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>this is both in video games and real life, the

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>hamstring injury that happens in the middle of the long run. No,

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and it goes from was there a packer who this

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 2>happened to? Was this like a sterling Sharp, Javon Walker

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 2>somebody in that era. I might be making this up,

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 2>but a hamstring injury during a long breakaway run. Nobody

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>is with them ten fifteen, twenty yards and all of

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 2>a sudden they pull up, but they don't go down.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just they go from running like a four four

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>forty to like a ten four forty and it's it

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 2>becomes a will he or won't he make it to

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the end zone before being tackled when it seemed like

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 2>a sure thing, and all of a sudden, it's just

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 2>like and down that stretch they come and it's it's

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 2>a wonderful moment for me as long as they had.

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just a cramp and not really a hamstring full

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:26.720
<v Speaker 2>like tears.

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>See what I'm what I'm thinking of, I'm not even

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>thinking of On the football field, do you remember do

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you remember that race back in oh gosh, had to

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>be the late nineties between Michael Johnson and Donovan.

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Bailey where they ran like the one fifty.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>They were right, they were trying to do the one

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty meter race, and I think Michael Johnson

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>was losing at the time but did something to his

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>squad and pulled a blame right, And.

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>There was all sorts of reaction to that, like did

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 2>he do it on purpose? But he just sort of

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 2>went out. He was going at a very high rate

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 2>of speed. He's an Olympic caliber runner, and all of

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:05.520
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, at one point, the world's fastest man just.

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Pulls up lane because it happens. Yeah, and you see

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:10.839
<v Speaker 1>that happen on the football field, and you do hope

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone's okay, but it is certainly a sudden twist in

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the plot.

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Would you ever? Would you ever flop? Would I ever

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 2>flop in any scenario playing sports? Like you were saying,

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 2>people accuse Michael Johnson of flopping in the one fifty?

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, would you flop.

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 2>If one gave your team an advantage to save you

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 2>some pride of being just absolutely demolished at something? I

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 2>would And I have one hundred percent we are not

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 2>role models.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent.

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Kids try your best, but sometimes you gotta do what

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you got now that actually, now.

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>That you mention it, I have here players dramatically overplaying

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the victim card in an effort to draw a personal foul.

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking full on South American soccer style. Oh

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Adams, who, by the way, is excellent, but one

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 1>are really good at this. For relisio going out there,

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a fracas of some sort confusion. Refs don't know

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, Announcers don't know what's going on, and

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:11.320
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, a guy just flops.

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Well like it'll get in the shoulder pad as somebody

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 2>runs by him and he will act like he was

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 2>hit by a mac truck.

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. I appreciate that. I appreciate the ingenuity.

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the devotion to team to try and get

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 1>an extra fifteen yards.

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm all for it. I am too.

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I think in the moment it's like, oh man, that's

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:37.239
<v Speaker 2>like a chicken chicken ass move. But the more I

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 2>think about it, it's like it's doggy dog if you

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:44.040
<v Speaker 2>can pull it off and get the flag. I wouldn't

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 2>love it as a consistent practice. I wouldn't love it

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA way in the soccer way where it

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:53.280
<v Speaker 2>really affects the tenors, I agree, I agree, But in football,

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen yard penalty that takes a team from the

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 2>twelve to the twenty seven or the forty, what if

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 2>it if it really doesn't change and flop the game,

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 2>no pun intended flip the game. I guess there is

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 2>something to it. And I would never flop during a

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 2>rec league basketball game unless I really didn't like the

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>other team. If the other team was being terrible and

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 2>just like talking trash or just obnoxious, That's when I

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 2>would drive the lane and as I was shooting it,

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:23.959
<v Speaker 2>as I was going for a float, I would grab

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 2>my eye or grab my nose and check for blood.

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Right, that was my move.

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I would check for blood all the time. So yeah,

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:33.919
<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't fully change the tenor tenure ten tenor Yeah,

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm good with the Jamal Adams.

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's the wild draw four card and you can't

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 1>play it in all circumstances.

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Would you be okay with like the NBA and how

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:48.919
<v Speaker 2>they've legislated it, calling the flop as a penalty, I'm

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.439
<v Speaker 2>reversing it, so I think so, yeah, because it would

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:53.280
<v Speaker 2>force you to be so good at flopping.

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 3>That's right that you would have.

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.560
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to do it, you have to really

0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 2>sell it and time at right with the contact. We're

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 2>talking a Coach k style school of drawing charges. You

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 2>need to learn how to perfect that art in order

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to get those extra fifteen yards.

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Five team charges.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm I think I am better with flopping in basketball

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 2>than I am with charges. I think charges are bs. Okay,

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's cowardly, But I just am advocating for flopping.

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think we're in agreement here.

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I think we've we've reached alignment on something else, all right,

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:31.680
<v Speaker 1>So we're running to the end of the show here. Now,

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:33.320
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple other ones that are what do

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you like that are on the list. I'm gonna go

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>rapid fire through a couple of these, okay, mm hmm,

0:55:39.719 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of along the same lines as your player pulling

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a blame. I have the chain gang getting obliterated on

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the sidelines, the most pointless people on a football field.

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want anyone to get hurt. These are innocent bystanders.

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.279
<v Speaker 1>But what always cracks me up is when you've got

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a three hundred pound lineman and somebody moving with barreling

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous amount of force towards the sidelines, and they

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>break the chains when the hardware literally fails because you've

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 1>got these monsters of men going out there trying to

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 1>get an extra yard.

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:18.480
<v Speaker 3>That to me, is always worth a good chuckle.

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 2>The chain gang is something that I never understood why

0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 2>we need people doing this job. I don't get in

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, and if I were on the chain gang,

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 2>I would be embarrassed to tell people that that's what

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I did. I would say working security. Oh, I work

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:38.879
<v Speaker 2>in the replay booth. Oh, I'm a ref Oh I'm

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 2>a sideline judge. Oh like I help out with the

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.359
<v Speaker 2>cables and the TV crew on the side and make

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 2>sure nobody trips over. Oh I'm to get back coach.

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:48.719
<v Speaker 2>There's all sorts of support roles on or near a

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 2>football field to tell people. Yep, I hold a poll

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 2>and then I walk a little and I hold it again.

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.320
<v Speaker 2>It is so dumb that we have humans doing this,

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I see.

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:03.480
<v Speaker 1>And along the same lines, now we're talking technology which

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>gets into my space.

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's let's automate these idiots.

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 1>My space, not the MySpace. Yeah, how about the landline

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>telephones that are still on the sidelines as the primary

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>means of communication for the quarterback or some member of

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the offense or defense to talk to the booth?

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:57:21.400 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I I get this a little bit after what there

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 2>were accusations in New England that like the phones were tapped.

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I get like that, the walkie talking, I get why.

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I get why they do it.

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why it still looks like these are

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy style rotary phones that they're te to look like.

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:43.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it looks like you're an office phone. Sure,

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I think the rotary phones are good because they're super

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>loud in a stadium. I think I means why that,

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>like the rotary esque old fashioned phone is such so

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 2>boomingly loud?

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:58.439
<v Speaker 3>I think that's why? Is it? I don't I don't

0:57:58.480 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 3>know about that.

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>It is rough though, that to throw a terrible interception

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>have to go over the sideline and ring ring in

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, they're carrying around Microsoft surfaces on side spiking them.

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the best they can do is a roadaryf

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I always get a kick out of that.

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>What else do I have here I have the dual

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 1>threat quarterback who tries to keep the play alive a

0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 1>little too long. Mm hmm, like tech mobile style, just

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 1>keeps running backwards.

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Well along those lines. Third cousin, I would say quarterback

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 2>who can't slide. Oh, he's been practicing. He's been practicing

0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 2>his slides. He's getting pretty was it?

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 3>RG three? Who was it?

0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 2>It was like, yeah, it's it's an issue because we

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want him taking contact. But he just looks like

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 2>a baby giraffe when he tries to slide.

0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And they somehow slide with both feet out risking permanent

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>injury by catching.

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 2>They just they just drop. They just drop down and

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 2>they don't slide forward.

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 3>It's great. The only it's like a key ball slide.

0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 1>The only other thing I have on my list is

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 1>referees that botch the penalty announcements always good by either

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:14.080
<v Speaker 1>not knowing what the foul is when they turn on

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the microphone to announce it to the crew, or by

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<v Speaker 1>thinking they know what it is and just getting it

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<v Speaker 1>terribly wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are pack twelve clips and like where

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<v Speaker 2>one ref is pointing one way with like the first

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<v Speaker 2>down signal and the other ref is pointing the other

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<v Speaker 2>way and they need to sort of get their wires uncrossed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always great, usually happens out west. But totally agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you. I like the sideline trying to affect the

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<v Speaker 2>call with like the babble Pedro Serrano type motion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or like the incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, or the ball was down,

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<v Speaker 2>ball was down, ball was out.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be so excellent at that time. I do

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<v Speaker 3>that at home when I'm watching a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Always, always do the juggle, do the past interference.

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<v Speaker 3>Throwing the flag, the imaginary flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, oh, you pull it out from your hip and

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<v Speaker 2>it's and I will toss like four of them like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking tissues out of a Kleenex box.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, yes, I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm watching a soccer match, throw the imaginary if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't even throw flags in soccer, you'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Take out your your imaginary yellow card or right, that's right, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no no, I'll take out the football flag first,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll take out the flag. You will cross sports.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just wired into my DNA at this point to

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<v Speaker 1>try and throw the flag on a foul. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm playing FIFA, I'm trying to throw the flag and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. They don't even do that in soccer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned loving surprise left handers with that might.

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<v Speaker 3>Be my favorite one we've discussed tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like when a quarterback has his dominant hand,

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<v Speaker 2>usually his right hand, as he's rolling left, transfers the

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<v Speaker 2>ball to his left hand, and I think Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>did it recently.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a good.

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<v Speaker 2>It either goes very right or very wrong. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the let me and they do it in tennis sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>where they get caught off there they're wrong footed and

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<v Speaker 2>they just take a stab at it with their off

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<v Speaker 2>hand and it never really goes right even when it does.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that moment a lot ty. Okay, I really do,

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<v Speaker 3>I truly do. Let's see what else?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have anything else that really gets me going?

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<v Speaker 2>We had to grab away fumble?

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<v Speaker 3>You have on here? What do I have? The older

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<v Speaker 3>coach getting blown up on the sidelines. I felt bad

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<v Speaker 3>about that one, but I do like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened to Joe Pah, it happened that Charlie White.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was Joepa seriously injured.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he was. He probably just had like

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<v Speaker 3>a bad leg. He broke his leg. Oh joepap broke

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<v Speaker 3>his leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, it's yeah. It's still fine by me given

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<v Speaker 2>all the things. The Charlie Wise thing is sad. He

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<v Speaker 2>like he tore his acl and that was a bad

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<v Speaker 2>looking penalty. I just there there was something that like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not coming over here. I'm fine, I'm fine. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>O God, O god God. We're terrible happens, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get thrown in jail for this. It's okay, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's all I could think of. Yeah at

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<v Speaker 2>this moment. Okay, but the surprise left handed receiver is

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<v Speaker 2>very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, these are the.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that give us the college football vapors. The things

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been stewing over for quite some time now.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been collecting these items on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's fine and steamy. It's very high. I lost

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<v Speaker 3>my shirt about midway through.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mention this, and I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>sound any different, but I am now broadcasting from a closet.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I am now.

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<v Speaker 2>So three years ago I lived alone, I think right,

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<v Speaker 2>three four years who I lived alone and just did

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<v Speaker 2>my podcast wherever. Then I moved in with Jody with

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<v Speaker 2>an Eye and started doing it in like a side

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<v Speaker 2>room that there was like a half studio half like

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<v Speaker 2>I had my dress. Everybody was quiet and it did

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<v Speaker 2>the job. And then we moved into a bigger place

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<v Speaker 2>and I had that separate room that I set up

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<v Speaker 2>for both audio and video things and podcasts from there

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<v Speaker 2>and dampened the walls and did all those things to

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<v Speaker 2>make it sound all right. And then the Solid baby

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<v Speaker 2>came along, like, well, he needs a room, so that

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<v Speaker 2>got my podcasting setup got moved out to like where

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen table is, and then his stuff started mounting up.

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<v Speaker 2>And so now I'm in the you called it the

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<v Speaker 2>dank room, aka the claw, aka the dangein. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>I am in a walking closet and that's where my

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<v Speaker 2>desk is. I have my wife's work clothes to my

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<v Speaker 2>left hanging up, and some audio dampening foam all around me.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You are effectively college football's Milton Wadams at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Milton Wadams, that is, I have been danished. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you sound wonderful as always. Thank you. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 3>everyone for tuning into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 3>Follow us on social media, rite in let us know

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, for that fine gentleman over there, my

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hille Brand, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again for tuning into the soliverbo.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll catch you all soon. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,