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Speaker 3: For more information. Welcome to the Solid Verbal come.

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Speaker 2: That for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy? For day A

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Speaker 2: to state? Is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoom whoom and down and tie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Burbo boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is Ty Hildenbrand, joining me.

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Speaker 1: As always over there and beautiful, still wintry, still.

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Speaker 2: Very fatherly New York City. My man Dan Rubistet, Sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you, Ty?

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Speaker 3: I'm wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I'm really truly glad you asked. I just got a haircut.

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Speaker 2: Oh feels it feels great to do something for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, especially right now. I would imagine.

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Speaker 2: So so I would connect with you to show you

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Speaker 2: the haircut.

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Speaker 3: But I think that might be a bridge too far. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: did you go? Do you go barber shop? What do

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Speaker 2: I go to a barber shop. It was I used

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Speaker 2: to go to a salon tye. Yeah, I used to

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Speaker 3: I don't go. I don't go the full.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people will go that full real closely cropped,

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Speaker 3: Look the maclamore right. Not for me. Not.

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Speaker 2: I cannot pull it off. I know he would probably

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Speaker 1: What what size guard do you go with on the

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Speaker 3: All scissors? Tie? I want mertisanal work. Oh yeah, all scissors?

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Speaker 3: You pay extra for that? No?

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Speaker 2: Same price? Same price? Tie, it's March, March.

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Speaker 3: I go a number three on the sides. That's not bad.

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Speaker 3: You ever pushed it to two?

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Speaker 2: I have pushed it to two Mammy too much. That

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something, Tie. Not only is it

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Speaker 2: desperately wanted to talk news, news, and like the big list,

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Speaker 2: we have new bowls in twenty twenty in terms of alignment.

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Speaker 2: The Mountain West is no longer going to be in

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Speaker 2: And the Vegas one is going to be in the

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly wants to retire a Notre Dame coach. Okay, yep,

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Speaker 2: not not much. So we're just going to ignore news.

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Speaker 2: There's just not much worth talking about. We still have

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about that today. No, it

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Speaker 2: So I figured we pick up people along the way. Ty,

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Speaker 2: But if you look at the logo under the solid verbal,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost my voice, remember I had vocal issues

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Speaker 2: not like We'll sprinkle in some characteristics of our love

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Speaker 2: Yes, what gets our hearts raising, what gets our our

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Speaker 2: We've got a list here, get hot in here. We've

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Speaker 3: About that that got touchdown.

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Speaker 1: So you will tie, I'm going to play this. I

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Speaker 4: Balding, urs, foul hands to the face, not necessary roughnessial touching, neutrals,

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Speaker 2: Dot oh boy, Dan, oh boy, really went skinemax with it?

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Speaker 1: How much time did you spend making that? Marilyn Chambers

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Speaker 2: Football shout out Bikini car Wash. Not that it did

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Speaker 2: not take that long a time. I was thinking to myself,

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Speaker 2: comes in like a lion, Dan, and they weren't kidding. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, give me something that gets you hot and bothered?

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Speaker 1: You used to be a Florida State fan. I did, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he going is it going outside? He's going inside? Oh

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Speaker 2: going inside. Now up, He's just tackled for a loss

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Speaker 2: But if I'm watching a random Oklahoma Iowa state game

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Speaker 3: Is it just art? Tie? It is just art.

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Speaker 1: This to me speaks to the excitability of college football,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love this. I love when this happens. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: very guilty in rec league basketball. Off too many jukes

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Speaker 3: You have trapped me.

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Speaker 1: I'm retired from basketball, but my move was always to

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Speaker 3: Are you a good shooter at least? Not really?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, so you're just scared of contact. Is that's

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Speaker 3: I think so? I think? So okay, moving one going,

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Speaker 2: I love a good failed trick play. Oh that's okay.

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Speaker 2: That gets me sweaty tie. And this encompasses a lot.

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Speaker 2: So this could be a statue of liberty. It could

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Speaker 3: Like the.

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Speaker 2: A fake field goal that is executed perfectly and then

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Speaker 2: There's so much good in a failed trick play. And

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Speaker 3: I still don't fully understand that.

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Speaker 2: So they were throwing it to the sideline, I believe,

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Speaker 2: so it's a lateral but he threw it a yard forward.

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Speaker 2: Then they threw it forward again on the double pass.

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Speaker 2: It's tough, but the you know, the the flea flicker fumble,

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Speaker 2: and say, like was his hand moving forward without anybody

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Speaker 2: defending him. All of these things and I am pro

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Speaker 2: trick play, I am pro fakes, I am pro punters

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Speaker 2: just getting creamed because they went the wrong way on

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Speaker 2: a fake fake punt. It's there's just something about it

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Speaker 2: where it's just like it's also one of those things

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Speaker 2: where the announcers will say, like got too cute, got

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Speaker 2: too cute. But if it works. It works, and it's

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Speaker 2: just for me to quote Jimmy World, it is heaven.

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Speaker 1: I want to unpack this a little bit, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: So successful trick plays are great, They're irrefutably great, but

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Speaker 2: practice You're like, Okay, we spent a little bit extra

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Speaker 2: pull out it, pull it out in the exact right

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Speaker 2: that there's just something chaotic that doesn't exist in it's

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Speaker 2: third and eight. We're going with like a pass up

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Speaker 2: the same Oh, it was a little bit too far

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Speaker 2: and it's a failed play. But with a failed trick play,

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Speaker 2: the chaos potential. Somebody who's not used to throwing it

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Speaker 2: has to throw it. Somebody who's not used to running

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Speaker 2: it has to run it. Somebody who has to generally

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Speaker 2: rolling out. There's so many new mechanisms involved with a

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Speaker 3: They just trip. They just trip. And I love the

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Speaker 1: So we're talking, we're talking in Ocean's eleven caliber. Yes,

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Speaker 1: scheme that needs to be executed to perfection.

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Speaker 2: It's a what's what is? It's the Rube Goldberg machine? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: that you know there are so many new parts that

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Speaker 3: It's a catastrophe. Okay, it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean we see it with high stakes moments in

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Speaker 2: with no stakes moments, and it's just all things are

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Speaker 2: equal to me. It could be an Naia fake punt

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was that.

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Speaker 2: There's just okay, you're opening up a realm to a

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Speaker 2: world that nobody's fully prepared to look at Okay, I

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Speaker 3: I'm going to call out.

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Speaker 1: Two specific things here that I don't believe you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Oh you danced around one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The first is you talked about the wide receiver pass,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver has the wherewithal to realize you probably

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Speaker 3: It, tuk and run.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be like ten percent of the time

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Speaker 1: because those guys always want to throw it a lot

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Speaker 3: Are high school quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times it's their moment, right they feel

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Speaker 2: like they can genuinely make that throw and the wide

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Speaker 2: receiver forcing the ball into triple coverage. Again, if it's

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Speaker 2: my team, it's not something I'm into, but just as

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Speaker 2: a casual observer, it is something that gives a game

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Speaker 2: a little more flavor. Cousin of that is surprise left

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Speaker 2: handed receiver. Surprise left handed receiver where you just assume

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Speaker 3: That everybody right about that.

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Speaker 2: Well, how many left handed quarterbacks are there in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there are any, right, not that I

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Speaker 2: so in two years, in twenty twenty. But there is

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Speaker 2: something disorienting and the two I remember, I remember Antonio

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Speaker 2: and it was like it was like hearing an actor

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Speaker 2: And You're like, what the hell was that?

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Speaker 3: Everybody on the wire.

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Speaker 2: British, there's something wonderfully disorienting about it.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: The other that's so true, Oh my gosh. The other

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Speaker 1: thing that I would add, i'd bolt on top of this,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's not so much a failed trick play,

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Speaker 1: though they often do fail. The class of trick play

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Speaker 1: that we also need to call out here.

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Speaker 3: You know, those.

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Speaker 1: Ones where it's extreme misdirection and we've got a guy

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Speaker 1: where you've got two punt returners back and one is

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: That's sort of that's a little bit different. That's a

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Speaker 3: Same same genus. Yes, do we.

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Speaker 2: Think and I would love to see the footage if

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Speaker 2: it exists. Do we think on the end zone the

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Speaker 2: camouflage end zone when you know a Boise State player

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Speaker 2: I think we had a TCU player in the Ohio

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Speaker 2: Jalen Rager, I forget who it was, goes with like

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Speaker 2: just say, this is the zone lay down real quick,

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Speaker 2: let's run through it. Because if we're running through plays

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Speaker 2: team offens line, whatever, during during the walk through before

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Speaker 3: Like this is the corner, this is the move.

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Speaker 2: Act, stretching, active push, the zuppruiter of that pregame walkthrough

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Speaker 2: because it's such a the the trying to camouflage slash,

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Speaker 2: make it seem like you're not on the field for

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Speaker 2: a play, but actually our trick play. I would take

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Speaker 2: home after a first date. I would probably introduce to

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Speaker 2: I am head over heels, sweating, need a cold shower.

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Speaker 2: That is That is George Costanza. I think it moved

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Speaker 2: territory right there. Whether it works or not, the gumption

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's a player here, maybe there's not, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It is so great. I cannot get enough. All right,

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Speaker 3: that was good.

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Speaker 1: That was I feel like we unpacked a lot there

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Speaker 1: and we actually made progress as people.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we absolutely did and it's you know what we are.

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Speaker 2: We are football sex positive. Right, Okay, I'm gonna go yeah, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: why not?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, my yes, let's talk about the

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am gonna say that this to me, and

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Speaker 2: you can explain it further, is a positive, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: I would agree, go on, I would.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: an ironic positive. I'm saying it is a genuine positive

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Speaker 2: for me, no matter when it happens. Please explain your

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Speaker 2: love for it.

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Speaker 1: My love for it stems from I think, my visceral love,

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Speaker 1: my raw love for college football, just as something that

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Speaker 1: brings us all joy. Everybody knows when your team is

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Speaker 1: down three scores, you shouldn't be out there doing any

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Speaker 2: Act like you've been there, act like you've been there before. Scoreboard,

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Speaker 2: you know what are gonna say. But if you're a

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Speaker 2: there on the field who is at least feeling joy

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Speaker 2: with something in this game, because by that point, look

440
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Speaker 2: it's a blowout, game's over. That to me is fun

441
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Speaker 2: to watch. And there are many cousins of this. By

442
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Speaker 2: the way, this isn't the only thing that kind of

443
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Speaker 2: falls into this category. But I am all about the

444
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: elaborate celebratory maneuvers after a touchdown, after a sack, win,

445
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 2: the game is still close, after a pass breakup, I

446
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: am all about it. I don't care about the personal fouls,

447
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: the excessive celebration, and now the taunting less team unless

448
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: it's my team. Let's be clear, I don't care about

449
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,719
Speaker 2: the taunting. For the most part. I am all for this,

450
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Speaker 2: have fun when you're out there. But the elaborate sack

451
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: dance down about three scores, to me is extra special. Well,

452
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Speaker 2: the other thing is so defensive ends the metrics we

453
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Speaker 2: have for them. We have tackles for a loss and

454
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Speaker 2: we have sacks, and there are places like our friends

455
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Speaker 2: at Pro Football Focus that do pressures or hurries stuff

456
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: like that that those are not household statistics, at least

457
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: not yet. And so you say somebody is leading the

458
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Speaker 2: nation in sax, you mean, like, oh my god, that's

459
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: an incredible a feat that is pretty much incomparable defensively,

460
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Speaker 2: where it's just like there's one guy who leads the nation.

461
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Speaker 2: Sacks are super hard, and this guy does it better

462
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Speaker 2: than anybody else. I just looked it up online because

463
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Speaker 2: I'm great at the internet. Tie ygm Etre gross Matos

464
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Speaker 2: consider to be what a top level pass rusher in

465
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Speaker 2: college football. Sure, he finished with against Big ten teams,

466
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Speaker 2: big ten plays, I believe nine teams in their conference schedule.

467
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Speaker 2: Now he finished with six and a half sacks against

468
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Speaker 2: Big ten teams, which again I went to a state school.

469
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Speaker 2: My math indicates that's fewer than one a game, and

470
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Speaker 2: he is considered among the best at this specific statistical accomplishment.

471
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Speaker 2: And it's less than once, fewer than once a game.

472
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Speaker 2: And so down twenty one, down forty seven, up twenty seven,

473
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Speaker 2: you're trying the entire If you get won a game,

474
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Speaker 2: you're all timer. Yeah, and so you just you got

475
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: to you gotta celebrate when you can tie. You can't

476
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Speaker 2: let one go to waste. I will take it every time.

477
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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the cousins. Yes, my my truly favorite

478
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Speaker 2: cousin of this is when a safety and there was

479
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Speaker 2: a safety for organ who was so great at this?

480
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Speaker 3: JD.

481
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: Nelson safety gives up a twenty seven yard pass on

482
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Speaker 2: third and twenty one, and big hit receiver holds on.

483
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: Big hit guy pops up and celebrates. That's right, you

484
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: don't come over the middle. He just he just completed

485
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: an explosion play in a crucial situation that you did

486
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Speaker 2: not stop.

487
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Speaker 3: I love it.

488
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Speaker 2: I love the gumption once again of that, but it's

489
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: it's more ironic in that case than the sack down

490
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Speaker 2: twenty All.

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Speaker 1: Right, well let me so, let's do the ancestry DNA today.

492
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Speaker 1: Let's do the ancestry DNA then on something that could

493
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Speaker 1: be really it might show up in like the fourth

494
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Speaker 1: or fifth cousin territory. Yeah, with low probability, you could.

495
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Speaker 2: Marry this person and it would be at least okay, right, yeah.

496
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: What about along the same lines of the defensive back

497
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Speaker 1: gives up the big play, monster hits celebrates. What about

498
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about the incredibly lucky defensive back.

499
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Speaker 3: Yes you know what I mean by this.

500
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: So like a receiver dropping a ball that was thrown

501
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: perfectly to exactly and the corner gets beat, and then

502
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: the ball is dropped and the corner gives like the

503
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: very dramatic incomplete, incomplete right exactly like his arms are

504
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: about to come out of the socket because he's waved

505
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: off in his head like Merton Hanks. Yeah, back right.

506
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Guy gets torched on a double moved delicious wide receiver

507
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: streaking down the field over the middle of the field,

508
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: a perfect throw that for some reason goes wrong, maybe

509
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: a guy can't drag his foot along the boundary to

510
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: get the completion, and there is the defensive back who

511
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with that play's failure, just celebrating

512
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: like he drew it up at home. You don't come

513
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: to Thai Islands without a visa. Yeah, that is. It's

514
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: a wonderful thing. Sometimes it'll happen where a dB will

515
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: have a pass hit his helmet and then he will

516
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: celebrate as it like he is not at all turned

517
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: back to look at the ball and to high point

518
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: the ball or whatever hits his helmet, realizes in a

519
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: much delayed fashion that the pass is incomplete, and celebrates

520
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: and also has to be told what happened. It's a wonderful,

521
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: wonderful thing.

522
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Speaker 3: I love it.

523
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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you one that I just it's

524
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: very straightforward, and I just love it, and it's pretty

525
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: unstoppable in video games, and Sanford runs it three times

526
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: a game and it always works one thousand percent of

527
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: the time. That is the fake full back dive and

528
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: the quarterback is let's say the quarterback has turned to

529
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: his right, fakes the full back dive hand off the pitch,

530
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: then pitches it weak side to the other side, whether

531
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: it's to Bryce Love or Christian McCaffrey or whoever, and

532
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: on third and one third and inches, fourth and one

533
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: fourth in inches. It's just brutal. It is just brutal,

534
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: and it is something that it makes me shake a

535
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 2: little bit.

536
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: I love it so much.

537
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: See so this you mentioned this play as it relates

538
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: to video games. Yes, this used to be a play

539
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: that didn't work at all. And then along the way

540
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: EA Sports show in our age here, but EA Sports, yeah,

541
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: decided that they would build the proper AI into the game. Huh,

542
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: so that defenses would act a little bit more realistic

543
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: in sometimes I fall for this right. And then if

544
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: you had a good line, if you had recruited well,

545
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: if you got enough insta commits on your team, then

546
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: this is something that you could run in a key

547
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: situation to perfection. But it wasn't until the latter years

548
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: of the NCAA series where you could actually run a

549
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: pitch play and get any serious yardage.

550
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

551
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: No, I would never really run that like student body

552
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: left if I were running a pro style offense. But

553
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: the fake dive, because the dive is pretty effective in

554
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: video games third inches. Not many teams are stopping just

555
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: like a straight ahead dive, and then you throw in

556
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: who is I'm trying to think of the running backs

557
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: for Stanford that just every single one of them. Toby Gerhart,

558
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, Toby Gerhart, Stephen Taylor yep, Taylor step Finn

559
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: was in against Notre Dame yep.

560
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: I maintain.

561
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: There was there was something magical about that play that

562
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't fully hate because I was sitting at home saying,

563
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: this is what they should do, this is what they're

564
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: probably gonna do, and I love being right, so I

565
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: didn't fully get upset.

566
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: I just love that play.

567
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Speaker 1: The joy of the nc double A video game series

568
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: to me not to make too much of a left

569
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: turn here. The joy for me always was in the

570
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: passing game, and it was so counterintuitive because you knew

571
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: if you had the proper beef up front, you could

572
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: run it down your opponent's throat, but you just didn't

573
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: want to. I got really good towards the end of

574
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: that NC DOUBLEA series at calling a smart route which

575
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: was essentially a ten yard hook every play, and it

576
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: was uncoverable. You could not cover it at all. You

577
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: couldn't cover it with zone, you couldn't cover it with man.

578
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: As long as you had a quarterback who could throw

579
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: the ball to a spot with any amount of strength,

580
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: that play was always open. Now they've changed it in

581
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: the newer versions of Madden, where they've added a million controls.

582
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: I don't even know.

583
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: What what does what anymore, but that, to me, that

584
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: was the only play in my quiver, and it worked wonderfully.

585
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: Did you have a play like that before?

586
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: I talk about that? Screw you, because we played and

587
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: I know what you're talking.

588
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: That was my only play. It's the worst, the worst.

589
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: I had a couple plays. I had some sort of

590
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: deep ends that worked really nicely against Cover two.

591
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: But God, I hated people like you. I was. I

592
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: was that Garst.

593
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were the scorpion get over here of NCAA football.

594
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I was going on YouTube and looking to see what worked.

595
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: You know, I find you, I'd find the guy like.

596
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: What's up, boys, let's talk about smart roots, that sort

597
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: of thing.

598
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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, okay, So we had I think this

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: A mishurdle, right, like a hurdle that goes wrong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, like was.

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Speaker 2: It Melvin Gordon, one of them in the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 2: a few years ago, had one that He's like, I'm

642
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Speaker 2: We had a hurdle gone wrong.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody is Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Not everybody's Saquon Barkley. That's fine. I'm talking about hurdle's

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649
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,040
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Speaker 2: do that, that is the I would argue the ultimate

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656
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: moment in a football game and I both at the

657
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: same time feel so bad. I understand why we're watching

658
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: what we're watching, but I can't help but say, oh,

659
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: you dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb dumb fool. You are tackling nobody.

660
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: And I can't get enough of that very specific picture

661
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: that is just for at least a day.

662
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: A life ruin college football, no Man's Land. Yes, I

663
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: like it.

664
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: Tackling ghosts, we talk about seeing ghosts, tackling ghost Tackling

665
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: ghosts my favorite thing.

666
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Let me throw one out there that I've got on

667
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: my list. How do you feel about very poor field conditions?

668
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: Hum? It depends what the conditions are. Because I like

669
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: a snow game a lot, and that would be interpreted

670
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: and so I like it. But mud, I don't know

671
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: if mud does it for me.

672
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: No.

673
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: See, now, we we've talked an awful lot on this

674
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: show about monsoon games.

675
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 3: Yes, and I feel like.

676
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 2: Well, there's no more mud really because we have field

677
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: turf everywhere now pretty much in a lot of places,

678
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: but just puddles.

679
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm not everywhere.

680
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so obviously it takes the right combination of

681
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: weather and turf to truly achieve the mud bowl style

682
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: conditions that I'm referencing here.

683
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 3: But a good mud game, a really good mud game.

684
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: We're talking three inches of rain, downpour, they should have

685
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: postponed the game, but decided against it. It seems like

686
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: in the South.

687
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: Start having conversations about irrigation.

688
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like in the Southeast we have a

689
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: couple opportunities for this every year. I'm talking full on

690
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: mud is I think number one on my power ranking

691
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: because you can at least alter the game in snow,

692
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: you know you can. You can adapt to more of

693
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: a ground game and turn it into a smash mouth

694
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: three yards and a cloud of dust style offense.

695
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: But when you've.

696
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: Got nothing but pure, unadulterated mud, you really can't do

697
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: anything because he can't hold onto the damn ball. No,

698
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: you can't call plays. The whole game sort of turns

699
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: into something it was not supposed to be. So if

700
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: it's your team, surely that is not a situation that

701
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: you feel great about. But from the outside in as

702
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: an efficionado of the monsoon game, the extreme mud of

703
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: a monsoon game that you see on the field again,

704
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: if they've got natural grass, that to me is very appealing.

705
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: See the kissing cousin that I get super into is

706
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: when there are turf issues, not because of weather. Sometimes

707
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: a lot of the time it'll happen inside. You remember

708
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Ohio State Big Ten championship game where the

709
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: carpet is ripped. That's the right goal line. I'm super

710
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: into that. I'm super into national championship games or big

711
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: time games on a field that is regular grass turf,

712
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: that like Levi staff right where it's just like there

713
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: is there's a group of people whose entire job it

714
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: is is to grow grass and to trim grass, and

715
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: to think about the right time to water and care

716
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: for this said grass. And then game time rolls around

717
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: and there's a sinkhole on the.

718
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: Thirty that's right, that's right.

719
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: Then there's there's a sprinkler that pops up at midfield

720
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: or oh yeah, they have to wheel this grass in,

721
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: and you just have this team of professionals who are

722
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: just like grass huh. And you're like, wait, what, this

723
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: is your job. This is the entire thing you do.

724
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: I am I am so amused by the fact that

725
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: it's twenty nineteen.

726
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: It'll happen this year.

727
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Beyond of course it will twenty nineteen. In many cases,

728
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: these stadiums are hundreds of millions of dollars taxpayer funded,

729
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: and somehow the playing surface became an afterthought. Yes, the

730
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: playing surface is the whole reason they built the stadium,

731
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: Yet it's an afterthought.

732
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: How does that happen?

733
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: By the way, our pal Nicole Hourback wrote about the

734
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: Arizona State turf, I don't know if it's good or bad.

735
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: I know it's grass. And she wrote about the guy

736
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: who maintains it, the head groundskeeper. Yes, and it's a

737
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: phenomenal piece. I think we mentioned it when we did

738
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: partnering with the athletic but now that I think about it,

739
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: I really hope that Arizona State has not had any

740
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: issues because I liked him so much. But it is

741
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: pretty astounding when there are Levi Stadium is a terrific example,

742
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: like how does this there is? It's the like you

743
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: had one job and this job is grass again, sink

744
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Cale it the thirty can't happen, and I love it.

745
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: I love it when it does because it's just this

746
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: amazing spotlight on incompetence.

747
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: It's great. Let me throw out another one here. I'm ready.

748
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I want to get your take on this. I don't

749
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: know if this is something that we've ever discussed at

750
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: length on the show.

751
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: M M.

752
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: I love everything about the rugby style punt.

753
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: You put this on our list, and I really had

754
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: to think about what I thought about it.

755
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: My opinion, but expand Will the punter tuck it under

756
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: and run? Always?

757
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: Always you're like, oh, will he won't see will the

758
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: defense get close enough to block the kick? There's a

759
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: lot more uncertainty with the rugby style punt. He almost

760
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: always the punter punts it away, sure, and they get

761
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: that top spin on it. It's not the traditional punt

762
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: that you're used to seeing if you watch football for

763
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: your entire life.

764
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: It's wonk gear, for sure.

765
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: It's different. It's more directional, right, it's a different style

766
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: of punting, but there's definitely a little bit more uncertainty

767
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: in the process, and the punter, if he so desires.

768
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: Has more options.

769
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: He can run it, he can decide he wants to

770
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: throw it. He could bobble it and the whole thing

771
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: goes horribly wrong.

772
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, that's evering.

773
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: I never felt great about this until I started thinking

774
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: more about it, And as I thought more about it,

775
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: it just always felt to me like there was so

776
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: much more uncertainty you with each play that I.

777
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Sort of grew to love it.

778
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: So for me, the rugby style punt encapsulates a lot

779
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: of what I love about college. About four years ago,

780
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: I was going for a run tie and I just

781
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: hit the smallest crack in the street and I didn't fall.

782
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: I fell slowly, And there's nothing worse than just slowly

783
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: losing your balance and trying to Oh god, I'm going down,

784
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: big boys going down. And that is the concern to

785
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: me with the rugby punt. I guess it's even coupled

786
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: with the like if the turf is at all bad.

787
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever tried to run even

788
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: fifty percent and then kick a ball as hard as

789
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: you can, or kick it with accuracy, with you know,

790
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: in a pinpoint direction. It's one of those just like

791
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: the trick play going wrong and why that appeals to

792
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: me and my blood the rugby kick going wrong and

793
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: the announcers doing some quick math and saying, well, the

794
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: punt went for it looks like six yards yep, because

795
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 2: the shank potential is through the roof. So I appreciate

796
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: the rugby punt in a vacuum. I am I am

797
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: willing to hook up with a rugby punt going wrong.

798
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: I am terribly afraid of every rugby punt going wrong,

799
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: so much shank potential there.

800
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: Yes, shank potential, trip potential, punter being absolutely annihilated, and

801
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: then they have to have a competition on campus because

802
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: there's no other person on the table. Punt he's got

803
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: broken ribs, he can't move. Yeah, by the way, that's

804
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: another thing that's not on our list. But punter a

805
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: kicker tryouts in the middle of the tryout, Oh my god,

806
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: it's I don't wish I were still in college. I

807
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: had a great time in college, but I'm glad I'm

808
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: not in college anymore. I implore anybody listening if your

809
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: school has open tryouts, to be a punter or a kicker.

810
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't even care if you try out, but if

811
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: that's the only way you can go watch open tryouts,

812
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: please do and report back. Oh my goodness, what do

813
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: you think is? What do you think is the longest

814
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: field goal you could kick? Could you make an extra point?

815
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 3: No?

816
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: You don't think you can make a point? Kicking is heard,

817
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: it is hard. I could make an extra point. I'm

818
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: confident I can make an extra point.

819
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: My favorite part of the open.

820
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: Open tryout for a field goal, kicker or whatever is

821
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: inevitably that is like a talking point that the announcers

822
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: know about. Like, oh, Brian Thompson, you know, just last

823
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: week he was just a chemistry major. Now he's kicking

824
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: for Boston College. And he comes out and he looks

825
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: like an eight year old wearing a halloween costume. What

826
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: was the brand, huffy huffy that he was wearing one

827
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: of those plastic helmets. You're like, Oh, I think his

828
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 2: shoulder pats might be on backwards. His cleats look way

829
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: too big, his cup looks like it's horizontal. No, there's

830
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: just a bunch wrong with the look of Oh. I

831
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: love it so much and I root for him. Let's

832
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: be clear. I want that dude to have a golden boot.

833
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but oftentimes no, not so much. All Right, I

834
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: did two in a row.

835
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: You're true, Okay, let's.

836
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: Go with You know what.

837
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: I love a good grab away fumble grab away front

838
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: so doesn't happen often.

839
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: So a guy just sort of rips it out.

840
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 2: Guy rips it out, and especially rips it out, not

841
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: like in the middle of a pile. That'll happen, there's

842
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: nowhere for the ball to go. Sometimes guys just rip

843
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: it out and like Oh wow, No, I guess it's

844
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: all miss ball. It's more the open field during a tackle,

845
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: ed Reed just lays waste to a dude and in

846
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: the process takes the ball and starts running the other direction.

847
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: It is such a pantsing, it is such that's a

848
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: humiliator that I can't help but want to do very

849
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: romantic things to that play. I love a good grab

850
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: away out of nowhere because it happens so bang, bang

851
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: right right, not to be too sure, bang. It happens

852
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: so quickly where you don't see anything scored out. Hey,

853
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: you don't see a scramble for a ball. It's just immediately, Oh,

854
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: everything has changed. The offense is now definitely the defense.

855
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: And I love that moment of just complete and pure chaos,

856
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: without even a split second of a change of possession.

857
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: This is This is a first cousin of the quarterback

858
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: who inadvertently throws an interception to a defensive lineman, Yes,

859
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: who just goes streaming down the field for an.

860
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: The defensive lineman like a nose tackle, who on one

861
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: play out of one hundred, drops back into coverage to

862
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: cover like shallow crossing routes, and there's an interception, not

863
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: because he tipped it, because he threw it right to

864
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: him at the line, but because he was like, you

865
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna drop back real quick, see what happens.

866
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: And it's just a little stinker about it. I love

867
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: that moment where Hellodi Nata is just I know, I'm

868
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: saying organ players where whoever where Mount Cody drops back

869
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: into coverage. You're like, oh wow, that was though. Yeah, yeah,

870
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: that's it's a it's a wonderful moment.

871
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: All right, give me another one.

872
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: I mean, this sort of falls under the trick play thing,

873
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 2: but it's not. It's an unintentional trick play. When there's

874
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: a bad field goal or extra point snap and it's

875
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: very clear that there's no time to put the ball

876
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: down for the kicker. It's so a rhythmic, it's just

877
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: not going to happen, and.

878
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: The and the holder tries to put it down but

879
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: accidentally just lays the ball down.

880
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: He has no other option, and then there is that

881
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: that moment again. It's one of those yep, that's me,

882
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: I bet you wondered how we got here moments where

883
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: he's like, I gotta do something, and then he is

884
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: is the huffy kid. He is the sprint out, the

885
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: throw to the corner of the end zone, hoping for

886
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: the best. Obviously, it just goes straight out of back.

887
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: To the lineman who is ineligibly downfield, and to the lineman,

888
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: and one hundred out of one hundred times that holder's

889
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: helmet gets twisted around his head as a result of

890
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: the play, where it's.

891
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: Just like the holder's a punter or like the third

892
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: string quarterback, and he just maybe grabs any helmet. He's like,

893
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm just holding it like whatever, and running for his life.

894
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: Caleb Sturgis is just yelling at him, and it just

895
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: goes so horribly wrong, and the announcers say something like, well,

896
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: you gotta feel for that kid. He tried to make

897
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: something out of nothing, and there is never something. There's

898
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: never ever something but a twisted helmet.

899
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: And then there's always the shot along the sidelines, first

900
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: off of him walking to the sidelines in disgust, and

901
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: then once he gets there, oftentimes hanging around the medical tent,

902
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: not sure if he's hurt enough to go in, not

903
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: willing to admit to himself or anyone that he's hurt

904
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: enough to go in, but surely feeling the pain after

905
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: having his knees.

906
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: He's never used the muscles no, that are necessary as

907
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: a holder to sprint out and throw a pass on

908
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: a route that's not supposed to even happen. He is

909
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: like a concussed hamstring. There's an injury that has not

910
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: even been diagnosed in the medical community. That's what the

911
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: holder has. And this is when they burn the red

912
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: shirt to get a new holder the following.

913
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: Week open practice.

914
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: The open practice, this is all fitting together.

915
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: What do you have?

916
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got players fumbling the ball out of bounds

917
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: or through the end zone for a touchback.

918
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I see. This does not get me excited. This

919
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 2: This is one where you say a golden shower, cold shower.

920
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you much better.

921
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: As far as you know, I am all about this,

922
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: and I know it makes me among the very few

923
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: in college football media who's okay with this. Every time

924
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: it happens, there are folks out there grumbling they should

925
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: move it back to the lines, should it be a

926
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: change of possession, the whole nine. I love this, really,

927
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: I love this. Hold on to the damn ball if

928
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: you want to score, if you don't, if you fumble

929
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: it out. This is the one place on the field

930
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: where it will be doubly punishable to fumble it. Do

931
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: not fumble it through the end zone for a touchback.

932
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: I've never had a problem with it. I love every

933
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: time it happens. When it doesn't happen to.

934
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: Mine, well, you act like it's something that can be controlled.

935
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's stripped. It's not just somebody reaching and it

936
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: slips out of their hands.

937
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: Well that's fair too, but yeah, don't being stripped. Yeah,

938
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: don't fumble the ball through the end zone. Otherwise they're

939
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: going to pay mightily for it.

940
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: But that's worth a turnover, worth a turnover with a

941
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 2: non recovered fumble as a turnover.

942
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I enjoy. I enjoy the fact that

943
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: the rule is inconsistently applied when you get down to

944
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: the very spot where it matters the most. I appreciate

945
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: that in college football. And I know I'm in the

946
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: minority here, Yeah, I know it, but it does it

947
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: for me. Dan, I love it. I love that rule.

948
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: We should.

949
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just going to jump in right

950
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: now because I'm positive everybody listening has like the certain

951
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: instances and plays and scenarios on the field that they love.

952
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: Please do tweet.

953
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: Us at solid Verbal, email us Solidverbal at gmail dot com.

954
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: We will recap the best of what you guys submit,

955
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: probably on our next episode. Because it's the off season.

956
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: There are one million Yeah, it's the off season. There

957
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: are millions of scenarios that happen, and these are just

958
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: the ones that are getting us going, even in the

959
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: cold of March.

960
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: The other thing that I would add is we're trying

961
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more active on the Instagram feed,

962
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: and this would be a good place if you if.

963
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: You're already follow send us a message to solid Verbal.

964
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: We'll post at solid Verbal right yeah, at soliverb.

965
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: We'll post something both on the normal feed and in

966
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: the story to try and solicit some other things that

967
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: we might have missed here.

968
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: And you're going to start gramming from the Mystery day Job,

969
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: right you were going to start?

970
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: Ty'd be cool. It's just oh yeah, oh yeah, sure, Dan.

971
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: That sounds like yeah, No, follow us on Instagram and

972
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: and message us your your scenarios that really get you going.

973
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: This one is one that sounds mean and cruel, but

974
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: I promise you, I hope this is temporary and everybody

975
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: is okay when I see this and that is and

976
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: this is both in video games and real life, the

977
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: hamstring injury that happens in the middle of the long run. No,

978
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: and it goes from was there a packer who this

979
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: happened to? Was this like a sterling Sharp, Javon Walker

980
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: somebody in that era. I might be making this up,

981
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: but a hamstring injury during a long breakaway run. Nobody

982
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: is with them ten fifteen, twenty yards and all of

983
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: a sudden they pull up, but they don't go down.

984
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: It's just they go from running like a four four

985
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: forty to like a ten four forty and it's it

986
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: becomes a will he or won't he make it to

987
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: the end zone before being tackled when it seemed like

988
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: a sure thing, and all of a sudden, it's just

989
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: like and down that stretch they come and it's it's

990
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: a wonderful moment for me as long as they had.

991
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: It's just a cramp and not really a hamstring full

992
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: like tears.

993
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: See what I'm what I'm thinking of, I'm not even

994
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: thinking of On the football field, do you remember do

995
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: you remember that race back in oh gosh, had to

996
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: be the late nineties between Michael Johnson and Donovan.

997
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: Bailey where they ran like the one fifty.

998
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: They were right, they were trying to do the one

999
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty meter race, and I think Michael Johnson

1000
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: was losing at the time but did something to his

1001
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: squad and pulled a blame right, And.

1002
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: There was all sorts of reaction to that, like did

1003
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: he do it on purpose? But he just sort of

1004
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: went out. He was going at a very high rate

1005
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: of speed. He's an Olympic caliber runner, and all of

1006
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: a sudden, at one point, the world's fastest man just.

1007
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: Pulls up lane because it happens. Yeah, and you see

1008
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: that happen on the football field, and you do hope

1009
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: everyone's okay, but it is certainly a sudden twist in

1010
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: the plot.

1011
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: Would you ever? Would you ever flop? Would I ever

1012
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: flop in any scenario playing sports? Like you were saying,

1013
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: people accuse Michael Johnson of flopping in the one fifty?

1014
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you flop.

1015
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: If one gave your team an advantage to save you

1016
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: some pride of being just absolutely demolished at something? I

1017
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: would And I have one hundred percent we are not

1018
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: role models.

1019
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

1020
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: Kids try your best, but sometimes you gotta do what

1021
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: you got now that actually, now.

1022
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: That you mention it, I have here players dramatically overplaying

1023
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: the victim card in an effort to draw a personal foul.

1024
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: So we're talking full on South American soccer style. Oh

1025
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, who, by the way, is excellent, but one

1026
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: are really good at this. For relisio going out there,

1027
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: there's a fracas of some sort confusion. Refs don't know

1028
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: what's going on, Announcers don't know what's going on, and

1029
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, a guy just flops.

1030
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: Well like it'll get in the shoulder pad as somebody

1031
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: runs by him and he will act like he was

1032
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: hit by a mac truck.

1033
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I appreciate that. I appreciate the ingenuity.

1034
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate the devotion to team to try and get

1035
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: an extra fifteen yards.

1036
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I am too.

1037
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: I think in the moment it's like, oh man, that's

1038
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: like a chicken chicken ass move. But the more I

1039
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: think about it, it's like it's doggy dog if you

1040
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: can pull it off and get the flag. I wouldn't

1041
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: love it as a consistent practice. I wouldn't love it

1042
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: in the NBA way in the soccer way where it

1043
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: really affects the tenors, I agree, I agree, But in football,

1044
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: a fifteen yard penalty that takes a team from the

1045
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: twelve to the twenty seven or the forty, what if

1046
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: it if it really doesn't change and flop the game,

1047
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: no pun intended flip the game. I guess there is

1048
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: something to it. And I would never flop during a

1049
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: rec league basketball game unless I really didn't like the

1050
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: other team. If the other team was being terrible and

1051
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 2: just like talking trash or just obnoxious, That's when I

1052
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: would drive the lane and as I was shooting it,

1053
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 2: as I was going for a float, I would grab

1054
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: my eye or grab my nose and check for blood.

1055
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: Right, that was my move.

1056
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: I would check for blood all the time. So yeah,

1057
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 2: if it doesn't fully change the tenor tenure ten tenor Yeah,

1058
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm good with the Jamal Adams.

1059
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: It's it's the wild draw four card and you can't

1060
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: play it in all circumstances.

1061
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: Would you be okay with like the NBA and how

1062
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: they've legislated it, calling the flop as a penalty, I'm

1063
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 2: reversing it, so I think so, yeah, because it would

1064
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: force you to be so good at flopping.

1065
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: That's right that you would have.

1066
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: If you're going to do it, you have to really

1067
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: sell it and time at right with the contact. We're

1068
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: talking a Coach k style school of drawing charges. You

1069
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: need to learn how to perfect that art in order

1070
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: to get those extra fifteen yards.

1071
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Five team charges.

1072
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm I think I am better with flopping in basketball

1073
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: than I am with charges. I think charges are bs. Okay,

1074
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: I think it's cowardly, But I just am advocating for flopping.

1075
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: So I think we're in agreement here.

1076
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: I think we've we've reached alignment on something else, all right,

1077
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: So we're running to the end of the show here. Now,

1078
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: there are a couple other ones that are what do

1079
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: you like that are on the list. I'm gonna go

1080
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: rapid fire through a couple of these, okay, mm hmm,

1081
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of along the same lines as your player pulling

1082
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: a blame. I have the chain gang getting obliterated on

1083
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: the sidelines, the most pointless people on a football field.

1084
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to get hurt. These are innocent bystanders.

1085
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: But what always cracks me up is when you've got

1086
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: a three hundred pound lineman and somebody moving with barreling

1087
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of force towards the sidelines, and they

1088
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: break the chains when the hardware literally fails because you've

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Speaker 1: got these monsters of men going out there trying to

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Speaker 1: get an extra yard.

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Speaker 3: That to me, is always worth a good chuckle.

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Speaker 2: The chain gang is something that I never understood why

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00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: we need people doing this job. I don't get in

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00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and if I were on the chain gang,

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00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: I would be embarrassed to tell people that that's what

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: I did. I would say working security. Oh, I work

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00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 2: in the replay booth. Oh, I'm a ref Oh I'm

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: a sideline judge. Oh like I help out with the

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: cables and the TV crew on the side and make

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00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: sure nobody trips over. Oh I'm to get back coach.

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00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of support roles on or near a

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00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: football field to tell people. Yep, I hold a poll

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00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 2: and then I walk a little and I hold it again.

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00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 2: It is so dumb that we have humans doing this,

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00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: I see.

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Speaker 1: And along the same lines, now we're talking technology which

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00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: gets into my space.

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00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's let's automate these idiots.

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: My space, not the MySpace. Yeah, how about the landline

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: telephones that are still on the sidelines as the primary

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00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: means of communication for the quarterback or some member of

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: the offense or defense to talk to the booth?

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00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: Right?

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00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: I I get this a little bit after what there

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00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: were accusations in New England that like the phones were tapped.

1116
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: I get like that, the walkie talking, I get why.

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00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: I get why they do it.

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't understand why it still looks like these are

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00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy style rotary phones that they're te to look like.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it looks like you're an office phone. Sure,

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00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: I think the rotary phones are good because they're super

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: loud in a stadium. I think I means why that,

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: like the rotary esque old fashioned phone is such so

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00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: boomingly loud?

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Speaker 3: I think that's why? Is it? I don't I don't

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00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: know about that.

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00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: It is rough though, that to throw a terrible interception

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00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: have to go over the sideline and ring ring in

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00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: the NFL, they're carrying around Microsoft surfaces on side spiking them.

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the best they can do is a roadaryf

1131
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I always get a kick out of that.

1132
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: What else do I have here I have the dual

1133
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: threat quarterback who tries to keep the play alive a

1134
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: little too long. Mm hmm, like tech mobile style, just

1135
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: keeps running backwards.

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00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: Well along those lines. Third cousin, I would say quarterback

1137
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: who can't slide. Oh, he's been practicing. He's been practicing

1138
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: his slides. He's getting pretty was it?

1139
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: RG three? Who was it?

1140
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it's it's an issue because we

1141
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: don't want him taking contact. But he just looks like

1142
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: a baby giraffe when he tries to slide.

1143
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: And they somehow slide with both feet out risking permanent

1144
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: injury by catching.

1145
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: They just they just drop. They just drop down and

1146
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: they don't slide forward.

1147
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: It's great. The only it's like a key ball slide.

1148
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: The only other thing I have on my list is

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00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: referees that botch the penalty announcements always good by either

1150
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: not knowing what the foul is when they turn on

1151
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: the microphone to announce it to the crew, or by

1152
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: thinking they know what it is and just getting it

1153
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: terribly wrong.

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00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah that is.

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00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: I mean there are pack twelve clips and like where

1156
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: one ref is pointing one way with like the first

1157
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: down signal and the other ref is pointing the other

1158
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: way and they need to sort of get their wires uncrossed.

1159
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: That's always great, usually happens out west. But totally agree

1160
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: with you. I like the sideline trying to affect the

1161
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: call with like the babble Pedro Serrano type motion. Yeah,

1162
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: or like the incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, or the ball was down,

1163
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: ball was down, ball was out.

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: I would be so excellent at that time. I do

1165
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: that at home when I'm watching a game.

1166
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: Always, always do the juggle, do the past interference.

1167
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 3: Throwing the flag, the imaginary flag.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: Sure, oh, you pull it out from your hip and

1169
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: it's and I will toss like four of them like

1170
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm taking tissues out of a Kleenex box.

1171
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yes, I do that.

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: When I'm watching a soccer match, throw the imaginary if

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: they don't even throw flags in soccer, you'll.

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: Take out your your imaginary yellow card or right, that's right, no.

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01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: No, no, no no, I'll take out the football flag first,

1176
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: and we'll take out the flag. You will cross sports.

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01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: It's just wired into my DNA at this point to

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01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: try and throw the flag on a foul. Yeah, if

1179
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm playing FIFA, I'm trying to throw the flag and

1180
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't even do that in soccer.

1181
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: I mentioned loving surprise left handers with that might.

1182
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: Be my favorite one we've discussed tonight.

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01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: I also like when a quarterback has his dominant hand,

1184
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: usually his right hand, as he's rolling left, transfers the

1185
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: ball to his left hand, and I think Patrick Mahomes

1186
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: did it recently.

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: This was a good.

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01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: It either goes very right or very wrong. I love

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: the let me and they do it in tennis sometimes

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: where they get caught off there they're wrong footed and

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: they just take a stab at it with their off

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01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: hand and it never really goes right even when it does.

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01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: I like that moment a lot ty. Okay, I really do,

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: I truly do. Let's see what else?

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: Do I have anything else that really gets me going?

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01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: We had to grab away fumble?

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01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: You have on here? What do I have? The older

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01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: coach getting blown up on the sidelines. I felt bad

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: about that one, but I do like it.

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Speaker 2: It happened to Joe Pah, it happened that Charlie White.

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01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 2: I don't think it was Joepa seriously injured.

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't think he was. He probably just had like

1203
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: a bad leg. He broke his leg. Oh joepap broke

1204
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: his leg.

1205
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's yeah. It's still fine by me given

1206
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: all the things. The Charlie Wise thing is sad. He

1207
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: like he tore his acl and that was a bad

1208
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: looking penalty. I just there there was something that like, oh,

1209
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: it's not coming over here. I'm fine, I'm fine. Oh God,

1210
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: O God, O god God. We're terrible happens, so we're

1211
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: gonna get thrown in jail for this. It's okay, it's okay.

1212
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: I think that's all I could think of. Yeah at

1213
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: this moment. Okay, but the surprise left handed receiver is

1214
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: very good.

1215
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: Well, these are the.

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Speaker 2: Things that give us the college football vapors. The things

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01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: that these are college football joy write in let us

1218
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: know what you think. Follow us on Facebook, on Twitter,

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01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,600
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1220
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1221
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1222
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1223
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1225
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,080
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Speaker 1: to cash in on that deal. Uh, this is a

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: fun show. This is a show that I think you

1230
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: and I have been stewing over for quite some time now.

1231
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: We've been collecting these items on the list.

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 3: So it's fine and steamy. It's very high. I lost

1233
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: my shirt about midway through.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mention this, and I don't know if I

1235
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: sound any different, but I am now broadcasting from a closet.

1236
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I am now.

1237
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: So three years ago I lived alone, I think right,

1238
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: three four years who I lived alone and just did

1239
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: my podcast wherever. Then I moved in with Jody with

1240
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: an Eye and started doing it in like a side

1241
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: room that there was like a half studio half like

1242
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: I had my dress. Everybody was quiet and it did

1243
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: the job. And then we moved into a bigger place

1244
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: and I had that separate room that I set up

1245
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: for both audio and video things and podcasts from there

1246
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: and dampened the walls and did all those things to

1247
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: make it sound all right. And then the Solid baby

1248
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: came along, like, well, he needs a room, so that

1249
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: got my podcasting setup got moved out to like where

1250
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: the kitchen table is, and then his stuff started mounting up.

1251
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: And so now I'm in the you called it the

1252
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: dank room, aka the claw, aka the dangein. It's so

1253
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: I am in a walking closet and that's where my

1254
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: desk is. I have my wife's work clothes to my

1255
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: left hanging up, and some audio dampening foam all around me.

1256
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: And this is my life.

1257
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: You are effectively college football's Milton Wadams at this point.

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01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: Milton Wadams, that is, I have been danished. All right, Well,

1259
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 3: you sound wonderful as always. Thank you. Thank you to

1260
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: everyone for tuning into the show.

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: Again.

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: Follow us on social media, rite in let us know

1263
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: what gets you going on the college football field. We'll

1264
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 3: be back in a week.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, for that fine gentleman over there, my

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hille Brand, thanks

1267
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: again for tuning into the soliverbo.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch you all soon. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,