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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of My Heart Radio Zarin Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: You know it's ridiculous, Yes, I do. Actually, the sea walnut, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's better than that. There. The sea walnut is

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Speaker 1: called actually the wardy comb jelly. And the reason why

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Speaker 1: I bring up the sea walnut slash wardy comb jelly

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Speaker 1: is because it has a transient anus. Oh wait what now?

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Speaker 1: And the who's it a transient anius? I'm glad you asked.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a disappearing butt. So the butt comes together,

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Speaker 1: forms for excretion, and then disappears into the body. It

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Speaker 1: has a butt that a reforms, it forms whenever it

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Speaker 1: needs it transient and then every time it happens that

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Speaker 1: song doing the button, that's beautiful. That's a beautiful underseid

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Speaker 1: ridiculous adventure. The wordy comb jelly, Well sure, okay, so

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Speaker 1: well that's ridiculous. Um, you know what else? What else

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous? That just can't compete with that? But thank you.

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Speaker 1: Going from like silly small time street cons to running

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Speaker 1: crime and politics in a major American city and in

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Speaker 1: an Alaskan frontier town. Otherwise, I was like, is this

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Speaker 1: Joe Kennedy, Joe Kennedy story. Uh No, that's that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you about today. Doesn't involve transient

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Speaker 1: anuses an I, but it's still pretty ridiculous. It sounds

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Speaker 1: super ridiculous. This is a ridiculous crime A podcast about

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Speaker 1: absurd and outrageous capers, heists, and cons. It's always murder

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Speaker 1: free and one hundred percent ridiculous. I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you a story is aerin please do. I love stories,

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Speaker 1: I know, and it's a story about a man named Soapy.

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Speaker 1: I love stories about a man named Soapye. This hits

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Speaker 1: all the marks. I mean, this is my first, but

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Speaker 1: I love it. So Jefferson Randolph Smith the second. Why

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Speaker 1: don't know. There's a pretentious people. I'm telling you whatever,

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Speaker 1: So Jefferson jeff Smith Jr. Gone. He was born in

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Speaker 1: Georgia in eighteen sixty is an interesting time. Sixty. His

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Speaker 1: daddy was a lawyer. You can actually use that understatement

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Speaker 1: to hold down papers away. So this daddy is a

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Speaker 1: lawyer and also happens to own some land. And with

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Speaker 1: that some people, yes, I've heard about this. And then

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Speaker 1: after the war, then they moved to Texas As one

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Speaker 1: does people well, I think they didn't have an anything

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Speaker 1: So he the whole family moves to Texas and Jefferson

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Speaker 1: Randolph Smith. Jefferson Randolph Smith. The second he starts gambling

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Speaker 1: and swindling people in Fort Worth because you know his family,

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Speaker 1: it's a family tradition. But it gets a little hot

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Speaker 1: for him there. You know, he's his having his Nelly moment.

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Speaker 1: He was getting hot in there. He didn't want to

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Speaker 1: take off all his clothes and instead he moved to Colorado.

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Speaker 1: That's the other option. And there it's in Colorado that

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Speaker 1: he sees someone doing the soap games? Is that a

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Speaker 1: dance doing the soap game? Yeah? You know, if someone says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you want to do the soap game, I'm thinking only

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Speaker 1: have two things. That sounds like, are you also going

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Speaker 1: to tell me not to tell anyone about this? So bleak?

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Speaker 1: That's that's my That's how I work. Um, the soap game.

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Speaker 1: This is what it is? A dude sell soap? How

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Speaker 1: is this a game? Does he win? Did I lose?

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Speaker 1: What's going on in the game is capitalism? Why are

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Speaker 1: my pants off? So the guy. There's a guy selling

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Speaker 1: all my soap, street corner soap, and she's got like

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Speaker 1: wrapped in luxurious marbled papers with beautiful labels and street corner. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: modern effort at corner. Because you know it's there's a

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Speaker 1: craft to it. I thought there's just like here's at

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Speaker 1: the low price. I thought that. No no, no, no

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Speaker 1: So they have these bars of soap and the guy

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Speaker 1: selling him says, hey, everybody gather around by some soap

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Speaker 1: And he's like, well wait, no, no, no, no, I

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Speaker 1: can promise you that in some of these bars of

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Speaker 1: soap is real legal tender like money. Yeah money. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He a negotiable instrument, they call it in legally. So

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Speaker 1: there's got money up in the soaps. And he sees

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Speaker 1: so that you buy a bar soapy, I'm sorry to

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Speaker 1: see the game. Yeah. So that's the that's the game.

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Speaker 1: It's a game of chance. It's gambling. I think they

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Speaker 1: And then he's like, you know, are you lucky? Throws

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Speaker 1: least you know, when I open it, do I have

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Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. What So Mr Smith sees a guy

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Speaker 1: He's like, I can do that, and anything he can do,

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Speaker 1: I can do better. He right. So he's in Denver.

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Speaker 1: He starts selling soap on the streets. He's slang in soap.

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Speaker 1: He's a soapmonger and he and he calls it prize

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Speaker 1: package soap sell, prize package soap sell. So he ups

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Speaker 1: he likes his dead President's crispy, so he slides. He's

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Speaker 1: selling him in batches like three for five or whenever.

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Speaker 1: And he would sing these ads where he would sing

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the tune was, but it was like,

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Speaker 1: It's the kind of songs your arm, you lose your charm? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was this single, But doesn't it sounds like the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing that you sing to your dog. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would see, yeah, you know, when you raise your

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Speaker 1: now most of the winners were actually plants. No minute,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me this soap game is. It's not on

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Speaker 1: I'm still just stuck with the idea of people are

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Speaker 1: is how there's a guy that he buys a bar

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Speaker 1: like frustratingly throws the wrap to the ground, but he's

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Speaker 1: groceries for our little infant who's so hungry? And he's

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Speaker 1: saying these jingles um and then he gets arrested for

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Speaker 1: So he gets arrested, and when he's taken into jail,

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Speaker 1: is just Soapy, Soapy Smith, And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: everyone calls him Soapy. Yeah, why not. It's a good nickname. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The economy in Denver is really bad at this point,

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Speaker 1: the soapies the train, right, he opens a fake stock exchange.

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Speaker 1: if we don't miss you know, it's so clever at

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Speaker 1: this guy and they needed a base. He needed like

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Speaker 1: duly Warren. Do you know who was a card dealer? There?

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Speaker 1: Um no Bat Masterson. Oh yeah, starts as a buffalo hunter,

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Speaker 1: all right, they're clarified, Thank you, Dave. So Denver prime target,

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Speaker 1: call a meeting to talk about the lawlessness in town.

418
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: That name for soapy lawlessness, a k a. Soapy, The

419
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: Committee of one oh one. I don't even know what

420
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: that means right there, don't There were not a hundred

421
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: and one of them. I'm imagining, but maybe it's like

422
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: a university course one oh one. This is get Soapy

423
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: one oh one. So they have these meetings, a lot

424
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 1: of like fist pounding and raised voices on, you know,

425
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: in these clapboards, and they're freezing. These people are freezing

426
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: and they're disgruntled. That's a bad anger keeps them warm,

427
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: That's that's why there's so many they're doing. There's one

428
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: guy in the corner who's just like dwelling on how

429
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: Maddie is a soapy and the steams coming out of

430
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: his ears, and then ladies are warming their hands steam.

431
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: They're just like keeping up Jacob, but my hands are freezing.

432
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: So Soapy finds out about Committee of one oh one.

433
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: He's like, this is garbage. You people are garbage. Do

434
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: you think he puts shows in the meeting well no,

435
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: he decides that. He's like, guys, we're going to this meeting. Yeah.

436
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: They're like, wait, soap, soap, Soapy's this a good idea?

437
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, watch this. So he and

438
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: all his crew roll into the committee meeting and he

439
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: announces that he's the one who's going to clean up

440
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: the town, and he elects himself chairman of Skagways New

441
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Law and Order Committee, the committee of three oh three.

442
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: He's like, it's three times better than your committee. He's like,

443
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: I see your one on one and I raise you

444
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: three oh three baby, And then he kicks over a table.

445
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm the boss, dumps on someone's head. How

446
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: amazing is that? Like that's that's confidence. Like I'm the problem,

447
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: I am the crime in town. I can I can

448
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: clean up this town. I can solve your problems. Why

449
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: do you think they call me soap? So he opens

450
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: Jeff Smith's parlor. Now, apparently, like most, he didn't really

451
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: like being called soapy and didn't want to be called

452
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: Jefferson Smith. So he's a he's a man of the people,

453
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Smith, and it's j E. F. F. Not Geoff.

454
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Smith's parlor a parlor. It sounds cozy, it sounds

455
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, sounds a good place to get ripped off.

456
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's and Jacob is just gonna keep

457
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: your hands warm with the steam coming out of him.

458
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: So he is cheesed off. So the parlor is part saloon,

459
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: but it's also like the unofficial city hall. Oh I

460
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: love this, yeah, I love it. Yeah, And I can

461
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: smell the cigar smoke completely, and it's so cold. So

462
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: the Spanish American War breaks out and soapy uh he

463
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: he turns the parlor into a militia recruiting center Spanish,

464
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: the Philippines and the last Yeah, totally, this is now

465
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: a border fight, well in case it makes its way

466
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: up there. And he calls himself a captain. He's kind

467
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: of promotion, of course. And in July he parades through

468
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: town as a hero with his quote unquote troops. You know,

469
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: just in case he stands next to you at the parade.

470
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: He stands next to the territories government government governor on

471
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: the parade bandstand. Okay, he's bring imagine a full uniform.

472
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: At this point he's gotten multiple like medals. Three days later,

473
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: July seven, things take a turn the Sopie Smith story.

474
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Soapie is flying high in Skagway, but like Icarus with

475
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: soap wings, he may have flown too close to the

476
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: midnight sun. I wove that. I'm going to share the

477
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: last chapter of soapie saga with you when we come

478
00:30:51,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: back from this quick break so July. A couple of

479
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: days earlier, July four, Sophie was, you know, standing tall

480
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: captain and his fake militia war hero hero and you know,

481
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: but he's the big boss in town. He's got his parlor,

482
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Smith parlor. But what happens on July seven? Jay

483
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Stewart comes to town, not d J. Stewart. Who is

484
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: J Stewart? I don't know. Jay Stewart is just a man,

485
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: just a man with a name, with a dream. He

486
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: enters Skagway and he's got twenty hundred bucks in gold

487
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: dust on him now today thats just worth dollars. He

488
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: is going to attract Soapie like a fly. Oh my god,

489
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: he's a soap magnet. He is like grimy fingers and

490
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: soapy is the wonderful, richly scented liquid soap next to

491
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: the sink. So J. Stewart shows up two k in

492
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: gold dust on him, and he was warned about Sophie.

493
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Thank god, somebody told him. They're like, heads up, Jeff Smith,

494
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: a k A. Soapy, not a good man, and don't

495
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: keep all your gold dust in one pocket. And they said,

496
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: well no, they tell him, don't keep your gold dust

497
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: anywhere but your hotel safe. Like you have to do this.

498
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: You have to keep your gold dust in the hotel. Bro,

499
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: don't even come to town, Mr Stewart. I need you

500
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 1: to repeat that back to me. What did I just

501
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: tell you? And he's like, in the put it in

502
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: the safe, yes, only in the put it in the street.

503
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, put it in

504
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: the hotel safe. And so to a Soapy's men should

505
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: up of course. Okay, still Jay Stewart, gold dust. They're like, listen,

506
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: I heard you. You know you need a place to

507
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: keep the gold dust. And it's you can't really pay

508
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: for things in gold that you can't be like sprinkle

509
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: me and like you know, walk into a store. You

510
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: need to you need to turn this into whole hard cash.

511
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: You need to turn this into currency, bro. Money. You

512
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: know what did I call it earlier? Negotiable instrument? Right now.

513
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: I've been doing negotiable instant so he has They tell him,

514
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: you know where you can get the best exchange rate

515
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: in town? Oh, I got an idea? Yes, in the

516
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: front yes, Trent Chrome with the Independent. Was it Jeff

517
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 1: Smith's parlor? Why, yes, yes, in fact it was. You

518
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: could get the best exchange rate in town at Jeff

519
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: Smith's parlor. You could also probably send a telegram if

520
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: you can contact your family. Jay Stewart's like, well, my dandy,

521
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: that sounds that sounds like a plan, and he goes

522
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: skipping off down the street to the parlor. He's robbed,

523
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: of course, not surprised, so Stewart. After he turns his

524
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: money over to the Soapy Smith operation and then it's

525
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: never seen again. He raises hell with town officials. Now

526
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: they're rolling their eyes. They're like, Mr Stewart, we told you.

527
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: I had you repeat it back to me three times.

528
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: He's still mad. First he tells the Deputy marshal, and

529
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: the Deputy Marshall goes, too bad, not my problem. Sucks

530
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: to be you. But also a little side note, the

531
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: Deputy Marshall is on Soapy's payroll. Rob shocked to find out,

532
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: believe that. So he's, you know, the deputy Marshall's no help,

533
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: and he tells him, you know what, too bad, So sad,

534
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: you need to go back to the Klondike and find

535
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: another twenty hundred bucks in gold dust. You didn't do it.

536
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I have faith and you go on. Now, run your

537
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: little legs head up that hill. So didn't grab his

538
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: hair on his head, patted him on the rump and

539
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: off he went. No, he j Stewart not really feeling

540
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: it because you know, like he went up there, he

541
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: got that gold dust and it was cold. I can't

542
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: stop fixating on how cold it is up there. So

543
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: I granted its summertime, but like it's still cold. The

544
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: sons out all the time, sounds out, guns out. So

545
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not going to do this. I like Skagway.

546
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: I like the what in later years will bears? But

547
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: right now is bucks. I like that. But so like

548
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: the in town, the robbery doesn't upset people because they're

549
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: just like, soap, what are you gonna do? Um? But

550
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: that's trickle economics. But here this is a good point.

551
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, thank you, because the people

552
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: aren't upset about the avery itself. But they're upset about

553
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: the fact that Jay Stewart had gone around and made

554
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of orders for goods and now he can't

555
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: pay for it. So like he had ordered like pizzas,

556
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: he had ordered like five pairs of Jordan's. He had

557
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: ordered a trailer and a lift kit for his truck

558
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't invented yet. Leggings. He went into is it

559
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Lulaman Lulu Liam And he went in there and he

560
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: was like, give me all the cute pants you have

561
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: and make it snappy, and one pair of Aslet's chaps. Yes,

562
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: don't ask. Do you carry vests? And are they made

563
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: of tapestry? Do you have a beaver coat? I could

564
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: wear bolo ties. Please, cod I'll get out. Let me

565
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: just put I'm putting in my order. I'll pick it

566
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: up later. Let me go back to get my gold dust.

567
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: I left it at Sopie Smith's place. I'll be right.

568
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: It's a great exchange rate. It's dollars for gold dust

569
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: and the exchange rate is zero. It's a negative exchange rate.

570
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: So people are mad, Like the local merchants are super

571
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: mad because they were about to make a ton. He's

572
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: basically ripping off their while completely. And you know, Sopy

573
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: is like charitable and he does all this stuff, but

574
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: he didn't do ninety two grand worth of stuff for

575
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: these people. So the town officials get together and they order, Soapy,

576
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: you have to return this gold by four pm on

577
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: July eight. Did they have an or else behind that,

578
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: because I'm not imagining that's going to happen. They just

579
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: made that statement. It wasn't implied or else. It wasn't

580
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: implied or else. So they tell him, look, you gotta

581
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: you gotta give us the gold dust. Give j Stewart

582
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: the gold dusk back four pm. So I'm imagining maybe

583
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: there's like a town clock and people are like synchronizing

584
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: their work. There's a countdown. Things are getting tight. Soapy

585
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: like he's hanging out in the parlor and some of

586
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: his gang are like soap, soap, dude, you gotta give

587
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: this money back. Bought what we're gonna do about this? This

588
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: This is getting bad. It's getting bad. I went over

589
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: and I tried to buy yoga pants and they wouldn't

590
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: serve me because I'm part of your crew. I need

591
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: yoga pants. I need leather yoga pants for the chill.

592
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Cut trail. So Sophie's like leaning back in this chair.

593
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: They're all bigging him. He's like, you know what I'm

594
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna tell everyone, kick rocks, answer it, suck it. This

595
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: is my money now, this is my bike. Now. He

596
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: won't he won't turn over the gold, is what I'm

597
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: trying to say. The whole town runs with their arms

598
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: down by the sides. My grandmama gave me that change.

599
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: So he's yeah, he's just not he's not feeling it.

600
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: He's not going to give the money back. He's soapy Smith,

601
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: He's so be blasted Smith. He's like, I held down

602
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: Denver City Hall. I I sold soap. You can't touch me.

603
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: This means nothing to me. I'm in the I'm a

604
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: fake captain in the fake militia for the Spanish American War.

605
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: Thank me for my service. So the deadline passes four o'clock.

606
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: That was the longest belt hole. That four it those

607
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: four chimes and the imaginary clock tower in Skagway. The

608
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: crowd gathers eight people who live there, so they gather someone.

609
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: Bring Jacob Jacobs still poke off in the meeting hall,

610
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: and he's like, still steaming. Jacob's in the meeting hall

611
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: and he has a good icicle coming from his nose

612
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: and they have to warm him up and be like,

613
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: come on, we're going to the docks. Oh we've moved okay.

614
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: So they're all like, they're all gathering at the docks

615
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: because that's where you gather when it's about to go downs.

616
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: What happens Skagway life, you know, and that's y f

617
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: eaway life. You can get a sticker for the back

618
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: of your car on that one. So the crowd gathers

619
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: at the docks and they, you know, they decide, we've

620
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: got to talk about our next moves. This is what

621
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: this is the way we do it in Skagway. We

622
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: gather at the docks. We talk about our next moves. Jacob,

623
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: what's your next move? He's frozen, he can't answer. And

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Speaker 1: so while they're coming up like okay, what happens next?

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Speaker 1: And they're they're like a little chalkboard and they're like

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Speaker 1: drawing out like maneuvers are like, okay, what are what

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Speaker 1: could happen? Pros and cons? We tell Sophy to give

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Speaker 1: the money back. He doesn't give it back now what?

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Speaker 1: So they have like that chart yes no to Soper,

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Speaker 1: give the money back. No, okay, what happens next, Well,

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Speaker 1: we gotta fight Soapy. We gotta find Soapy first, find

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Speaker 1: and hope where's Soapy? Soapy shows up? He's ready. He

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Speaker 1: there's two things we can describe Soapy as right now,

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Speaker 1: drunk and armed. Yes, Soap. He's doing Sophie. So like

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Speaker 1: he hears all there's this crowd down at the dock.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll go to and talk to him. Come on,

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Speaker 1: committee of three oh three, let's do this, bound up

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Speaker 1: some lawlessness and give me another beer for the real

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00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: He's like, give me four more Midori sours and I'll

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Speaker 1: be ready to go. So he's just like pounding him.

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00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: He's like, we got so much ice? Who's making me

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Speaker 1: a sweet mark? Talk at Jacob's chann and put it.

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Speaker 1: He's it a sister stick for this Dakari. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: he's ready to go. He's fired up, he's drunk, he's armed,

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Speaker 1: and there's a guard there, Frank Reid, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's in an official capacity or if he's

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Speaker 1: probably a member of the Committee of one oh one,

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Speaker 1: who's like still like he's a true believer. He thinks

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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to do some He has

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Speaker 1: a gun and he tries to stop Soapy Soapy, so puol, soapathing,

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00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: you need to listen to me. He's like, no, my

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00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: name is actually Jeffrey's like okay whatever or Jefferson. No

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00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: knows their own name because they're all drunk as skunks

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Speaker 1: and it's freezing. So Frank Read, it's like, stop, halt, citizen.

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Speaker 1: You cannot go any further. None shall pass. You have

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Speaker 1: to give me the money and sop He tries to

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00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: like push his way by Frank not having it. Frank

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00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: raises his weapon. Yeah. Soapy yells, oh my god, don't

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Speaker 1: shoot and those were his last words. Yeah, God, don't

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Speaker 1: I know. But so Read fires his gun jams, Yeah,

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00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: and like that's not good for this whole tension. There's

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Speaker 1: like fifteen people now gathered at the docks are like,

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00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: so my god, don't shoot the gun jams, But that

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Speaker 1: gives time for Soapy to raise his weapon with his Yeah,

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00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: he's like a one line Ben and he's got a

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00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: gun Freachi. Yet he's like, why are there three franc

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00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: Reads here? Which one do? I shoot thee in the

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00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: middle so they both fire at the same time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Soapy dies an hour later. He died, So he gets shot,

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00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: says nothing else, and then just died an hour later. Yeah, read,

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Speaker 1: he lived almost two more weeks and then he dies.

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00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Now does the countless murder. But it's not like part

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Speaker 1: of the cool I mean, I guess they're technically legally murders.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't malicious. It wasn't intended. It was much

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Speaker 1: more of an honorable, like law abiding Like you know,

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00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: if people say them, and cops kill people, it's not murder,

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00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: then this would be basically a legal thing where it's

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00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: not murder. Right, It wasn't. It wasn't amazing, you know,

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00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: because like Soapy never killed anybody, Yeah exactly. This is

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00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: more like self defense. Yeah yeah, and it was like

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00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: sort of a sloppy duel. Yeah, that's what it feels like.

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Speaker 1: So read, he lives two more weeks and then dies,

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Speaker 1: which is just hideous. That's a tough two weeks. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime they need to bury Soapy. He's getting right,

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00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: Soap starting to turn. They asked the Methodist preacher in town,

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Speaker 1: will you do the funeral? He's like, no, Baptist minister, please, please,

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00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: will you do this funeral? Jesus Christ. No, no, no, sir,

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00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: no way, I'm not doing that. God. They go to

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Speaker 1: the Presbyterian minister. Doesn't this sound like a joke? And

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00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: I get to the Presbyterian minister, they get to the

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00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: Catholic priest and the Presbyterian ministers like, I'm going to

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00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: do this because you know what, it's the right thing

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Speaker 1: to do. However, the town says you cannot bury him

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Speaker 1: in the town cemetery. They want to allow his body

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Speaker 1: like it's going to corrupt the other like he's going

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00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: to rip them off. It's just like they're so mad

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00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: at him. Yeah, they're just like he's he will taint it,

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Speaker 1: he will poison, He's a curse upon the frozen earth.

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Speaker 1: So the Presbyterian minister is like, well, because we can

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Speaker 1: go like just outside of town. And then the committee

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00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: of three or three is like, yeah, I guess outside

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00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: of town would be good. So they like drag his

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00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: body outside of town and just on the outskirts is

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00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: where they bury him. And the grave still stands today. WHOA.

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Speaker 1: So if you're ever in Skagway, go out there. I

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Speaker 1: suggest lay a bar of soap on the headstone in

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Speaker 1: honor of soapy he was a rascally character, you know,

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00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: but like clever, definitely clever, and I love his confidence

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00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: and his criminal ambition. I mean, the man dreams big

710
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: and he knows the power of a symbol. I mean

711
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: when he gets uping on the top of the Capitol

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00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: City Hall in Denver and he's like, I mean, that's

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00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: that line. I mean, the guy has a sense of

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00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: things theatrical. It's beautiful, and you know, it's just he's

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00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: a he's a wily guy and a three card money

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00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: game on the trail cold country. I still think my

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00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: favorite is the fake telegraph. Yes, so, what's your what's

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00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: your full ridiculous takeaway here on Soapie. I can't believe

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00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: I've never thought about running a fake criminal enterprise based

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00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: on something like a telegraph. That's my ridiculous takeaway? What's

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00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: wrong with me? I think? You know, he he was

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Speaker 1: known as the king of the frontier confidence men, and

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00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: he definitely was the king of that so good you know,

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: everything with was a gamble with soapy right up to

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00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: the end. He gambled on that one. And you don't

726
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: always win in gambling, Nope. Sometimes you just get the

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Speaker 1: soap and sometimes you leave us with a really ridiculous story.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Soapy. You can find us me Zaren,

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Speaker 1: producer Dave online at at ridiculous Crime on both Twitter

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Speaker 1: us about a ridiculous crime that you've committed, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep it anonymous between us the safe space. We'll

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Speaker 1: tell everyone about it, but we won't use your name.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, or if you just want to say hi,

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Speaker 1: it's a good way to reach us. So yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was That was Sophie Smith. I had a good time.

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00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: I like Sopie, like I'm gonna tell people about him.

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Speaker 1: I like this. I'm gonna call myself Sophie from now

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Speaker 1: on until next time. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Dutton and Zarin Burnett, produced and edited by a Root

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Speaker 1: and Tuton Dave Couston. Research is by the rascally Marissa Brown.

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Speaker 1: the Outlaw Travis Dutton and Executive producers are wild West

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