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Speaker 3: The Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Egg
Speaker 3: Golf Podcast. I am Andy Johnson today. With the Ryder
Speaker 3: Cup just a couple of weeks away. I decided to
Speaker 3: do something kind of fun and different with Shane Bacon,
Speaker 3: who's obviously a regular guest here, host of the Getta
Speaker 3: Grip podcast, host of the Ping Podcast, some sometime contributor
Speaker 3: to The Friday Egg, sometime contributor to part time contributor
Speaker 3: to Friday Golf's newsletter, A man of many talents, many
Speaker 3: hats to come on and draft out the twenty four
Speaker 3: Ryder Cup players as if they had no team. We
Speaker 3: were just doing a draft like a pickup basketball. You know,
Speaker 3: I take this guy, you take this guy type draft.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was really illuminating. It kind of
Speaker 3: reframes the argument for against different players. I guess it
Speaker 3: removes a lot of that. But I found one of
Speaker 3: the things interesting was where JT fell on both of
Speaker 3: ours and for me, he fell a lot higher than
Speaker 3: the last pick, which would kind of say maybe he
Speaker 3: should be on the team. So anyways, that was really fun.
Speaker 3: It was a different podcast and excited for you guys
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Speaker 3: Shane Bacon. Bacon, I have to say I think that
Speaker 3: this is happening because I was in you know, last
Speaker 3: week when I came up with this idea for the pod.
Speaker 3: I was doing a fantasy football draft. So are you
Speaker 3: a fantasy football person?
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Needed about eleven points from a certain Jets quarterback yesterday
Speaker 2: to win my first games.
Speaker 1: That was fun. That was an exciting first day.
Speaker 2: Hey, can I throw something at you off the top
Speaker 2: here since we're talking about football. Yeah, I was texting
Speaker 2: with your with your Shotgun Start co host. I don't
Speaker 2: know if people listen to that podcast or not. It's
Speaker 2: a great podcast. You should listen to it. Congrats on
Speaker 2: five years by the way, Oh thank you. But I
Speaker 2: I was texted today. I was thinking about the Aaron thing,
Speaker 2: and I feel like the easy comp is Gordon Hayward.
Speaker 2: Gordon Hayward, right, I mean first like game of the
Speaker 2: season gets injured. But that's I mean, he's not Aaron Rodger.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I think the best comp I could come up with
Speaker 2: is the one that hits your heart the hardest is
Speaker 2: the Derek Rose in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Thing, Like, I mean, the Bulls are not the Jets.
Speaker 2: For goodness sakes, you guys have had plenty of success
Speaker 2: over the years, but going into the playoffs, you and
Speaker 2: I have talked about this, I think online and offline
Speaker 2: plenty of times.
Speaker 1: But you, you and the Bulls.
Speaker 2: Fan base were convinced you guys were going to make
Speaker 2: the finals of potentially win. The Rose injury happens and
Speaker 2: obviously things go could.
Speaker 3: Put Yeah, yeah, I mean it was crazy. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know if that applies. I think this is
Speaker 3: the thing about the Rose thing that was so disheartening
Speaker 3: as a Bulls fan was it was like our guy,
Speaker 3: it was the Chicago guy. Okay, you know it was
Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers is the Jet sky right, and the
Speaker 3: US Open.
Speaker 1: A couple of times. We're a tennis channel hat. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's into it.
Speaker 3: How good was the US Open?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I went, I went Cindy and I
Speaker 2: went and watched Alcarez.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable to watch those guys in person.
Speaker 3: I it is like quickly, you know, it's funny, as
Speaker 3: like a kid, you have these sports streams of things
Speaker 3: you want to see. And as I've gotten into like
Speaker 3: very much of middle aged adult, the two events that
Speaker 3: are just ascending the list, getting to the top of
Speaker 3: the list are the or Wimbledon and the US Open
Speaker 3: of tennis that I really want to go see. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I have to say being on the West Coast for
Speaker 3: the for the US Open, it's like the greatest thing
Speaker 3: in the world. Those late matches. I like Bemoan. Everybody
Speaker 3: says West Coast is great for sports. It's not if
Speaker 3: you have a kid, like because like you have bedtime
Speaker 3: and dinner time, like right when all the sports are on.
Speaker 3: But like with with that US Open, you get the
Speaker 3: in in those quarter final rounds, you get those late
Speaker 3: matches that just hit right at the right time. I
Speaker 3: was I brought this up on the shotgun start, but
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the things that tennis does
Speaker 3: so well is that it has the you know and
Speaker 3: There are a lot of ills about tennis right now.
Speaker 3: It is not a sport in a great place. People
Speaker 3: tune in for one of them, tune in for four
Speaker 3: events of the year. But one of the things I
Speaker 3: love is the anticipation for matches, and like, you know
Speaker 3: when they like that you were at the Alcarez Zverev
Speaker 3: match right right like they were they were showing the
Speaker 3: next round the Alcarez Medvedev, like what Alcaaz was doing
Speaker 3: to Medvedev the previous couple matches, and you're like, get
Speaker 3: to see how they adjust and stuff. And golf, we
Speaker 3: just it's so rare we see showdowns in golf, and
Speaker 3: it's even more rare that we ever see a repeat
Speaker 3: of a showdown.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean I listened to the pod
Speaker 2: you guys were talking about this on and I was
Speaker 2: not in my head as you were discussing this, And
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been preaching the match play thing for years.
Speaker 1: I mean, not just with the Tour Championship, but just
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 2: Want to get all the best players together and make
Speaker 2: these things what I don't know what's the new term.
Speaker 1: It's not elevated anymore, are they calling it now?
Speaker 3: Signature signature. There you go just elev.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have these signature events, but unless it's
Speaker 2: match play, you're you're never gonna guarantee yourself. You know,
Speaker 2: these great matchups and the fact that there's not like
Speaker 2: a four part match play series throughout the year where
Speaker 2: you get like twenty guys that qualify for it, and
Speaker 2: maybe there's two floating spots that you could play your
Speaker 2: way into, but maybe eighteen spots are guaranteed considering how
Speaker 2: you played last year, like that would be such an
Speaker 2: easy way to guarantee a little bit of rivalry. Think
Speaker 2: about Phil Tiger.
Speaker 1: Like, we never got it, never ever ever.
Speaker 2: Got a true Phil Tiger showdown in a major chapship,
Speaker 2: which is why you.
Speaker 3: Got Ernie Ernie Tiger.
Speaker 2: Shut I know you're well, did we though, did we
Speaker 2: really get Ernie Tiger showdowns?
Speaker 1: Felt like we got Tiger and Ernie was there.
Speaker 3: Well, he was there, he was he wasn't uninvolved.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, it'd been nice if we'd
Speaker 2: had Phil Tiger a little bit.
Speaker 1: We get Phil Henrick and we got Tiger.
Speaker 2: Bob May Like, if you had match play and you
Speaker 2: had a really really small number of players, you would
Speaker 2: guarantee at least some of these finals would involve five
Speaker 2: floating names that you'd care to see play each other, right,
Speaker 2: and even in the matchups early into it, you'd get
Speaker 2: to see Rory play Jordan Speith.
Speaker 3: Think about too like these great match play moments. We've
Speaker 3: had great match play moments. Think about Sergio Kucher. They
Speaker 3: never played again, They never played each other again. Think
Speaker 3: about Sir Keegan Bradley and Miguel and hell Havenez. We
Speaker 3: never saw him play again.
Speaker 2: There's too many. The problem with the match play is
Speaker 2: there's too many people in. And I get why they
Speaker 2: have sixty four. I mean, I get it's early in
Speaker 2: the week interest that you have that many people, but
Speaker 2: just cut it to about a tenth of that, you know,
Speaker 2: and then let's have to top eight, top sixteen and
Speaker 2: go about your business. But having a match play series
Speaker 2: throughout the year where every you know, there's a there's
Speaker 2: a winter tournament, and there's a fall tournament, there's a
Speaker 2: spring tournament, and there's a summer tournament, and you win
Speaker 2: ten million dollars if you were the highest rated person
Speaker 2: throughout that because obviously money runs everything.
Speaker 3: But well, there seems to be plenty of money floating around,
Speaker 3: and there might be a giant influx of money in
Speaker 3: the sport if a certain public investment fund gets involved.
Speaker 1: I know, just yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: But match play is is it needs to be more
Speaker 2: of a king of golf, and it's just not even
Speaker 2: in the conversation right now, which is a bummer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I talked about too like controversial matches, but
Speaker 3: then you have these great matches you had. You had
Speaker 3: Sergio and Phil at the right the same day as
Speaker 3: as Rory and Reid, and Rory and Reid obviously got
Speaker 3: huge headlines, right and it was an amazing start to
Speaker 3: the match. But that Sergio Phil match was out of
Speaker 3: this world and we just don't have a chance to
Speaker 3: ever see like how great would have been after the
Speaker 3: Sergio philm match if it was like in the spring.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, yeah, these guys are playing a match
Speaker 3: in this match play circuit, like there should just be Yeah,
Speaker 3: as you said, some semblance of Inn's to the roots
Speaker 3: of the game. It's the history of the game. The
Speaker 3: game started as the match play sport, and it's just
Speaker 3: now at this point with the match play going away
Speaker 3: completely abandoned, at the professional level. It's so silly. I
Speaker 3: get that there's some limitations. I get their struggles, but
Speaker 3: if you made these as you suggested, like events, like
Speaker 3: you could have four to eight matches going on all
Speaker 3: the every day, it doesn't you know, just because you're
Speaker 3: playing out a champion doesn't mean you can't play out
Speaker 3: third place. You can't play out fifth place. You can't
Speaker 3: play out and pay out the spots. Like these guys
Speaker 3: play money matches for twenty grand. You know, they play
Speaker 3: these matches regularly. There's it's no different if you're playing
Speaker 3: an eighth place match for the difference of fifty grand.
Speaker 3: There's there's stuff on the line, and they're competitive. They
Speaker 3: don't want to lose. And I think that's something that
Speaker 3: I have in here about guys, this skuld parlay at Wow.
Speaker 1: So you know, hold on hold one second.
Speaker 2: Just I remember the early days of you podcasting and
Speaker 2: you didn't have that skill, and I mean watching you
Speaker 2: grow and just become this pro is just it's just
Speaker 2: it's made me so happy inside.
Speaker 3: I'm not pro. I'm still very very rougher our badges.
Speaker 3: But anyways, much like my writing, I still don't know
Speaker 3: where to put commas. I just guess commas.
Speaker 1: Are so lame. Get out of here, Commas.
Speaker 3: So we're doing a pod. We're doing a draft, and
Speaker 3: and I thought this, you know, I found this to
Speaker 3: be like a particularly like in the JT discourse, an
Speaker 3: illuminating thing. So I asked you and I were gonna
Speaker 3: draft teams. You've got the first pick, I've got the
Speaker 3: second pick. This is a tie back to the fantasy football.
Speaker 3: We're gonna draft out the teams. There's no country allegiances.
Speaker 3: There's no continent allegiance, you know, US or Europe, there's
Speaker 3: no allegiances there. It says you're gonna pick your team
Speaker 3: from the twenty four players that are playing in this
Speaker 3: year's Ryder Cup. I'm gonna pick my team. And the
Speaker 3: way I went about this process is I just kind
Speaker 3: of ranked players one through twenty four. I didn't do
Speaker 3: really like a deep analytics drive. I have reasons that
Speaker 3: I have players in certain spots. But one of the
Speaker 3: things is like you start to get to players and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, they might hate to lose more than
Speaker 3: they want to win, and hating to lose is an incredible,
Speaker 3: incredible match play trade.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's what's made some of these guys
Speaker 2: who are in terms of match play, I mean, you
Speaker 2: think about like the column Montgomery's of the world and
Speaker 2: the Endpulter.
Speaker 1: Obviously in Sergio.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you went through this,
Speaker 2: and obviously we'll hear in a bit really heavy European
Speaker 2: side of mine on the top end. I just feel
Speaker 2: like I've got a lot of the European players. I
Speaker 2: just when I think of match play, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: my brain tends to go that way before it goes
Speaker 2: to the American side of things. And I think that's
Speaker 2: because when you and I were in our formidable years,
Speaker 2: was when the American Ryder Cup teams were just dreadful,
Speaker 2: and the teams were dreadful, and the European guys were
Speaker 2: such studs.
Speaker 1: But I leaned euro heavy to start, I have to say.
Speaker 3: Then it was alarming in the middle and at the
Speaker 3: bottom for the European Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a tough spot. I will say.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you did this, but I went
Speaker 2: I when I did my list, I did like the
Speaker 2: top ten and then I did the bottom ten before
Speaker 2: I did the middle.
Speaker 1: My bottom is uh, hero heavy as well.
Speaker 3: He heavy, it's like extraordinary, it's it's kind of crazy,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's very and I think that's gonna be
Speaker 3: kind of how this like, I don't think the bottom
Speaker 3: matters as much, especially and I think the European team
Speaker 3: we'll get into more of a preview in the coming weeks,
Speaker 3: like a full preview. But one of the things I
Speaker 3: think with the European team is I think they're way
Speaker 3: more committed to the analytics, and the analytics would probably
Speaker 3: say if you have weak players, just don't play them
Speaker 3: until singles, you know. And I'm I'm I've heard that
Speaker 3: this is a tough place to walk, so it'll be
Speaker 3: interesting to see, like can guys do thirty six? Thirty six?
Speaker 3: But like I'm just gonna tell show my hand. McIntyre's
Speaker 3: my last guy.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I got a euro last. He's not mine,
Speaker 2: but he's he's let me tell you, he's floating around
Speaker 2: that all right.
Speaker 3: So I'm not worried about you taking back and tire,
Speaker 3: but he's last. If I'm the if I'm the captain,
Speaker 3: I'm probably just gonna say I'm I'm not playing it
Speaker 3: until like until Sunday. And I think there's like a
Speaker 3: moral thing of like if you pick a guy, do
Speaker 3: you have to play before Sunday? But like, I'm not
Speaker 3: letting my weak links just just cost me points. And
Speaker 3: I think this was the fill discourse in France when
Speaker 3: he was completely not a course fit. He wasn't ready
Speaker 3: to play, and they've rolled them out there and it
Speaker 3: was just so clear that he was not going to
Speaker 3: win points. It's like, why are you just giving away points?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting I don't know which roster I'd
Speaker 3: rather have right now, and I think that's great for
Speaker 3: this Ryder Cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree with you.
Speaker 2: It feels I think if you're an amateur golfer, I
Speaker 2: think you should be guaranteed two matches if you're playing
Speaker 2: in a Curtis Cup or you're playing in a Walker Cup.
Speaker 2: But when you get to professional golf, I think it's
Speaker 2: who's gonna give us the best chance to win this Cup?
Speaker 2: It only happens every two years and it's one of
Speaker 2: the most talked about events.
Speaker 1: In our sport.
Speaker 2: The issue being here, Andy is it's almost like the
Speaker 2: shoebomber syndrome. Right, one guy does the shoe bomb thing
Speaker 2: and now everybody's had to take the shoes off for
Speaker 2: twenty years. You go back to ninety nine and one captain,
Speaker 2: Mark James sits all of his bottom tiered guys till
Speaker 2: the end. They lose on Sunday, and every captain scared
Speaker 2: of doing what Mark James did. I don't think we
Speaker 2: should look at the outlier situation as the thing to
Speaker 2: lean into. I would like to see a modern captain go, hey, Bobby,
Speaker 2: no knock to you. You're a great player, You're one
Speaker 2: of the twelve best on the European side. You're playing
Speaker 2: on Sunday, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Like, if you want to play more matches, play better golf,
Speaker 2: and then we'll get you out there more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I mean, this is this is what
Speaker 3: I would love an event on the speaking of like
Speaker 3: loving of would love event. Remember when the NBA All
Speaker 3: Star Game did the public drafting of players, Jokisch was
Speaker 3: the last pick. Now he's the best player in the world.
Speaker 3: I mean it's I mean, it's perfectly played better Like,
Speaker 3: it would be so fun if they did one of
Speaker 3: these events and then they had two captains pick the teams.
Speaker 3: That would be better than the President's Cup in its
Speaker 3: current form.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean everything would be better in the President's Cup.
Speaker 3: Oh so that's a shot. That's you know, that's a
Speaker 3: shot against the internationals.
Speaker 1: It's not an international thing.
Speaker 2: It's just the event is is a Lesser Ryder Cup,
Speaker 2: and it always has been.
Speaker 1: It always win it will be.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on one of my great Ryder
Speaker 2: Cup ideas that the captains should have to play in
Speaker 2: the last singles match against each other.
Speaker 1: It would be so great.
Speaker 3: See who would you favorite? I mean the film Phil Luke,
Speaker 3: the Luke Donald Zach would be would be? I think they.
Speaker 3: I think that would be a good matchup.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is I feel like if you
Speaker 2: go through the captains over the years, it would it
Speaker 2: would be a pretty good matchup. Like I would be
Speaker 2: interested to see how it went. So I just think
Speaker 2: the last match should be the captains.
Speaker 1: That'd be so great.
Speaker 3: But then the captains are like grinding on their games.
Speaker 2: Zach was playing the other day. He's playing in Rome. Like,
Speaker 2: you don't think he's been grinding on this game. He's
Speaker 2: probably played twenty five PJ torvents this year, right, You.
Speaker 3: Think it's a big deal that Speith can't lay and
Speaker 3: Xander missed the little outing to real mean, I will.
Speaker 2: Say it would it would be nice to have seen
Speaker 2: the course before before getting there. I was texting with
Speaker 2: somebody on the team about the course and he's like,
Speaker 2: the rough is it's not us open, Thick, it's like
Speaker 2: your backyard, like letting your backyard get out of hand, Thick.
Speaker 2: I just think it'd be nice to see the golf
Speaker 2: course before you get there on Monday. The only caveat
Speaker 2: to that is they don't play till Friday, so plenty
Speaker 2: of time to obviously get practice in. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts seeing the golf course once
Speaker 2: if you've never seen it before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you have other extern circumstances, it's
Speaker 3: okay to miss it. Like rumors of you know, of
Speaker 3: a bachelor party. I'm fine with that. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just all right, let's go. You got the first pick.
Speaker 3: Who are you taking the first pick in the in
Speaker 3: the fake Ryder Cup draft? What's your team? What's your team?
Speaker 3: I guess you can be bake and I'll be egg.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. I'm going to make
Speaker 2: this really simple. I was battling between your two year
Speaker 2: tour players. I think you're going to take the other
Speaker 2: one here with the second pick, which is fine, I'm
Speaker 2: going Rory off the top. I think Rory is the
Speaker 2: alpha in golf. I also think the last Ryder Cup
Speaker 2: has probably been eating at him for two years. And
Speaker 2: I think Rory is a guy that is going to
Speaker 2: show up here with the mentality that I'm going to
Speaker 2: go five and oh, four and one, three to one
Speaker 2: and one because he played poorly last time, and obviously
Speaker 2: he's a guy that I think, when across the board,
Speaker 2: has probably played the most consistent golf in the world
Speaker 2: the last year year and a half or so. Also
Speaker 2: gets to go hatless, which I think Rory really likes.
Speaker 2: We're talking probably like a two thousand dollars haircut from
Speaker 2: Rory headed into Ryder Cup week. So I'm taking Rory
Speaker 2: off the top.
Speaker 3: That's I figured that was where you're going. And I'm
Speaker 3: I'm I'm so pleased because I got my number one
Speaker 3: pick number two and the reason I have Rom.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're taking Rom here? Yes, unbelievable. Are we doing
Speaker 1: snake by the way, or are you going now?
Speaker 3: You get you get the next one? I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do that to you. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you then on this piece of paper Fantasy draft.
Speaker 3: So I've got I'm taking Ram because I think this
Speaker 3: is like the he hasn't been playing his best golf
Speaker 3: is it's gonna be It's a month from when we
Speaker 3: last saw him, right. I think he's gonna turn things around.
Speaker 3: But the reason I'm picking him is that I think
Speaker 3: that this man hates losing more so than than he
Speaker 3: likes winning. Like I think there's like, you know, that
Speaker 3: deep down kind of fire. I've you saw it at
Speaker 3: Whistling Straights. He was just he was so into matches,
Speaker 3: he was so engaged. He was a great teammate. And
Speaker 3: I think I I take Ram just because he I
Speaker 3: think the guy hates losing and he's obviously an elite player.
Speaker 3: I like players with no holes in the game. He
Speaker 3: has no holes in his game like Rory. But I
Speaker 3: think just the edge of like I think you get
Speaker 3: on the golf course with that guy, that's a guy
Speaker 3: you don't want to play a match against. Like Rory.
Speaker 3: I think it was just he's too nice to be
Speaker 3: completely honest to be my first pick. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: but he's but he's he is he too nice in
Speaker 3: this event, I think Rom would piss you off. You
Speaker 3: do think that would bother you?
Speaker 2: I think that I think that Rory is too nice whatever.
Speaker 2: One hundred and what is it, one hundred and one
Speaker 2: week out of the year, out of the two years.
Speaker 2: It's just a one hundred and three weeks out of
Speaker 2: the two years, but the one week at the Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2: I do think Rory has a little bit of that
Speaker 2: I'm going to step on your throat mentality. Depending on
Speaker 2: who he's playing. I think obviously certain guys will get
Speaker 2: under his skin more than others. But uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I think Rom's a good pick. It's an interesting pick.
Speaker 2: I hadn't played great the last what seven months?
Speaker 3: About that?
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing him on no holes in the game, and honestly,
Speaker 3: he's got a physical intimidation. Brendan talked about this with
Speaker 3: Brooks in the Masters.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't buy this from you guys. I just
Speaker 1: don't buy this.
Speaker 2: It's golf because don't have to tackle anybody.
Speaker 3: I think there's something to it. There's just a physicality.
Speaker 3: There's going against a mountain, a mountain of a man,
Speaker 3: and he's my number one pick. I'm all in. I'm
Speaker 3: just pitching to him, like, I'm so happy that you
Speaker 3: passed on him, because I got him. I got my guy.
Speaker 1: Well I am surprised you passed on this guy.
Speaker 3: Just like the Bear. This is the Bears trading up
Speaker 3: to get Mitch. We got our guy.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, did you just did you just compare it
Speaker 2: to Mitch? Just ch It's just a horrible situation for you.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Bears just looked terrible in Week one.
Speaker 2: Oh god, it was horrible the.
Speaker 3: Other year another year looking forward to the draft.
Speaker 1: That's awful.
Speaker 2: It's like, what is that like eight months? That's what
Speaker 2: you're looking forward to. By the way, I have the
Speaker 2: Packers in a winds pool.
Speaker 1: I was in and I.
Speaker 2: Knew if they got through Week one, they've got a
Speaker 2: pretty good chance to win nine games. My second pick
Speaker 2: is somebody I thought you were going to take off
Speaker 2: the top, somebody who has been playing the best golf
Speaker 2: of anybody in the world over the last two months.
Speaker 2: And another European. I'm gonna take Victor Hovlin. I mean no,
Speaker 2: I'm not just simply form.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, my one in three players, I know who.
Speaker 2: You're gonna take care because you're gonna take another hates
Speaker 2: losing ever winning guy, which is fine, But I'm just
Speaker 2: saying I have Rory and Victor and I think you
Speaker 2: guys have discussed this on Shotgun a little bit. But
Speaker 2: when you think about the twenty four players on the
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup right now and you look at the picks
Speaker 2: we just took, there is an argument to be made
Speaker 2: that the top three players of the twenty four are
Speaker 2: in fact all Europeans.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When was the last time they could say that? And
Speaker 3: it was unfathomable to say that after the after whistling stretch.
Speaker 1: Was like fifteenth in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, who, what's going to happen to
Speaker 3: this European team? Is it even going to be competitive?
Speaker 3: Are they you know? Do they need to change the
Speaker 3: Like these were discussions and like now we go, you know,
Speaker 3: two years and it's just it's always a great reminder
Speaker 3: of like how and we I talked about this on
Speaker 3: the Shotguns start at the beginning of the year, is
Speaker 3: that like every year three to four guys fall out
Speaker 3: of the top ten in the world rankings, and you
Speaker 3: never expect like it's like, oh, this guy's never going
Speaker 3: to be out of the top ten. You know, there's
Speaker 3: no way Matt Fitzpatrick's going to fall out of the
Speaker 3: top ten after the last year. Now he's out of
Speaker 3: the top ten, right the with the with the Brider Cup,
Speaker 3: it was like, this is over for the Europeans and
Speaker 3: now we're well there.
Speaker 2: Was one spot Andy, like I thought after whistling it
Speaker 2: was the Harris English spot was the floating one. I
Speaker 2: thought there was literally going to be one spot that
Speaker 2: might float in two years in what is it? Is
Speaker 2: there four or five guys that aren't on the team
Speaker 2: from that team DJ Bryson, Tony Harris. I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean that's four off the top of my head. There
Speaker 2: might be a fifth. It's like it's not the same team,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And if you did it strictly off of like points,
Speaker 3: if because that was a really chalk points selection right,
Speaker 3: like there was no drama, like it would be even
Speaker 3: more churned because you wouldn't have JT. You wouldn't, you know,
Speaker 3: like it, So yeah, he'd be on right, he was
Speaker 3: like eleventh in points.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's like going back to like all
Speaker 2: twelve getting pick but yeah, I mean, but like that,
Speaker 2: he's a question mark.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something right now.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anything low on my list,
Speaker 2: just in case you're wondering, not high on my list
Speaker 2: right now, but.
Speaker 1: I got.
Speaker 3: All right. My next pick is Scotty. I'm taking Scotty Shuffler.
Speaker 3: I had him third, I had him above Holand I
Speaker 3: just think, I think, when it comes to match play,
Speaker 3: tee to green game is so so so important, Like
Speaker 3: it is just it when you play a guy that
Speaker 3: hits it really good, it is just relentless and you
Speaker 3: just feel like you have no hope when when they're
Speaker 3: just constantly ten feet away, and I think, like you
Speaker 3: look at like Sergio is never the greatest putter, but
Speaker 3: he's he's awful to play against because of how good
Speaker 3: of a ball striker he was, you know, or is
Speaker 3: and was. And I think with Scotty Scheffler, we're gonna
Speaker 3: see a similar thing where he's just he's so hard
Speaker 3: to play you can roll him out in any format.
Speaker 3: I know the putter is an issue, but the tee
Speaker 3: to green game is such a weapon in both alternate
Speaker 3: shot and and best ball. In a match play situation,
Speaker 3: you know the guy's going to shoot a good score
Speaker 3: because he's going to hit the ball better than probably
Speaker 3: everybody on the golf course, with the exception of the
Speaker 3: three guys that we just picked, are the really the
Speaker 3: only ones in this in this group that can hit
Speaker 3: it better than him. And like from that standpoint, like
Speaker 3: especially an alternate shot, you can play this guy in
Speaker 3: any format. He's going to excel in any format. So
Speaker 3: I love I love Scheffler, and I that's my second pick.
Speaker 2: So I totally agree with what you're saying about the
Speaker 2: ball striking thing. And I think in match play, we
Speaker 2: you know, we think about Scotty's game this season, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, hit it great, obviously didn't put very well,
Speaker 2: and I mean it's been talked about a million times,
Speaker 2: but there is a mental side of match play when
Speaker 2: you're playing someone when Scotty's going first, no matter the format,
Speaker 2: if it's foursomes or four ball, when they hit it close,
Speaker 2: it makes you feel like you have got to hit
Speaker 2: it close and stroke play, that doesn't matter if he
Speaker 2: it's at twenty five, if he hats at five feet
Speaker 2: and it's not a great hole location for your ball
Speaker 2: striking or your the way you move the golf ball,
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you got a sling one in there.
Speaker 2: In match play you do, and so in that regard,
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you on Scotty. I think Scotty
Speaker 2: will put the most pressure on his opponents of anybody
Speaker 2: of the twenty four because he's going to flag so
Speaker 2: many iron shots on par threes and approach shots into
Speaker 2: par fours that it puts the pressure on you to
Speaker 2: hit a great shot, not a good shot. And englf
Speaker 2: with these professionals. A lot of the time they're looking
Speaker 2: away from flag sticks, or they're playing a fat part
Speaker 2: to the green knowing that pars fine, I could make
Speaker 2: a twenty footer. You don't have that luxury when you're
Speaker 2: playing Scotti Scheffler.
Speaker 3: All right, I think it gets interesting here fifth pick.
Speaker 3: This is where I think it goes into.
Speaker 2: Like it to anybody who listen, you're gonna be You're
Speaker 2: gonna be surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going to newbie here. I'm going.
Speaker 2: Going A fella that hadn't played on a Ryder Cup team,
Speaker 2: hadn't played on a President's Cup team before, really hasn't
Speaker 2: been on many radars over the last few years.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, it's a little down on
Speaker 1: my list.
Speaker 2: This is a guy that I think when whatever sports
Speaker 2: book you bet on comes out with odds on you know,
Speaker 2: leading American point getter or leading point getter for the
Speaker 2: whole event, this is the person I would suggest, do
Speaker 2: you throw a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of money on? I'm going Brian Harmon here.
Speaker 2: With my third no no, oh, yes. I think this
Speaker 2: golf course sets up great for his game. I think
Speaker 2: match play sets up great for who he is as
Speaker 2: a person. I think he's gonna play with Kopka a
Speaker 2: lot of the week, and I just think that team
Speaker 2: is gonna.
Speaker 1: Be really, really hard to knock off the stoop.
Speaker 2: I think Harmon is gonna have an unbelievable week, and
Speaker 2: I would not be pay surprise.
Speaker 3: Hates to lose, factor, hates to lose.
Speaker 2: I think I think three to oho to one, three
Speaker 2: to one to oh, something like that is in the
Speaker 2: cards for Harmon here.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: you didn't see that. He was pretty pretty far down
Speaker 3: my list. I think it was a little bit of
Speaker 3: a reach. I think you could have gotten in the
Speaker 3: round eight eight.
Speaker 2: I want you know what, I take the quarterback early
Speaker 2: in fantasy. I'm not scared to take forty nine ers
Speaker 2: defense a couple of rounds early. I wanted to have
Speaker 2: Harmon on my team. I think he's gonna have a
Speaker 2: really really solid Ryder Cup. Are you you're not you're
Speaker 2: out on him? You don't you don't love him?
Speaker 1: All right? So real quick? Can I hear? Can I
Speaker 1: hear why you didn't? Why you don't love Harmon? Here?
Speaker 3: I just I think I'm looking at skill set. I
Speaker 3: just think I got a lot of guys ahead of them.
Speaker 3: I you know, and listen, I would have loved I
Speaker 3: would have loved to snag Harmon, you know, is one
Speaker 3: of my later picks, you know, and everything. I'm just
Speaker 3: not going I'm not going number five with him. He's
Speaker 3: gonna be, He's gonna be, and that's fine. He's just
Speaker 3: not a fit for my team. We're still looking at
Speaker 3: at the players with superlative talent and uh and and
Speaker 3: abilities here. So by watched the open?
Speaker 1: Do you watch the open?
Speaker 2: Right? All those guys that were in the field this week,
Speaker 2: they were at the Open, right?
Speaker 1: They were there? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was they were I guess wasn't but yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right, lud Big wasn't at any of the majors.
Speaker 3: But I mean there is something to be said. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have I wouldn't have believed this if you told
Speaker 3: me this at the beginning of the year that the
Speaker 3: Brian Harmon was gonna run away with a major. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be one player that ran away with a major
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, and it was Brian Harmon that
Speaker 3: nobody else had a shot on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Really unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: back to Shane Bacon. All right, my next uh, my
Speaker 3: next pick is uh, I'm going with Xander Shaffle.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean it's listen in the at this event.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good pick. I had them high,
Speaker 2: I had them really high.
Speaker 3: I uh, I just I again, no holes in his game.
Speaker 3: I think that. But when you just are are extremely
Speaker 3: skilled in every facet of the game, it really shows
Speaker 3: off in match play where you know there are a
Speaker 3: lot of high leverage moments and you don't want to
Speaker 3: have weaknesses. And that's Xander Schafflee so.
Speaker 2: On that in that same vein my next pick is
Speaker 2: kind of a similar player, I think to Xander. I
Speaker 2: think when you look at the PGA tool right now,
Speaker 2: these guys are relatively comparable. Obviously, Morikawa has done more
Speaker 2: in terms of winning the big events, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take Mori Kawa here for two reasons. One, I just
Speaker 2: think Marikawa a lot. It's Morikawa to me is very
Speaker 2: similar to what you said about Scotti Schefler.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hit it close a lot.
Speaker 2: Like bottom line is, he's gonna be a great player
Speaker 2: in match play.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hit the ball close.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a lot of birdie putts if you're
Speaker 2: playing obviously four ball, and your partner is gonna have
Speaker 2: a lot of birdie putts if you're playing foursomes.
Speaker 1: And I also just like the pairing.
Speaker 2: I think Marikawa is gonna play with it sounds like
Speaker 2: it's gonna be more Kwa Homa, And I just feel
Speaker 2: like those guys are gonna be the new age kind
Speaker 2: of Xander can't lay and I feel like they're gonna
Speaker 2: have a great week. And obviously we saw what Max
Speaker 2: was able to do at the President's Cup. And this
Speaker 2: is no knock to Billy Horschel, but if you think
Speaker 2: about Max in the way he played at the President's Cup,
Speaker 2: he's basically trading, you know, Billy Horschel for Colin more Kala.
Speaker 2: So I just feel like those two are gonna have
Speaker 2: a really, really, really successful week together.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the thing with Mark Kala, the one thing
Speaker 3: you didn't hit on that I love about him, especially
Speaker 3: in this golf court. He's uber accurate off the tee too,
Speaker 3: So you get a guy that's in play a lot.
Speaker 3: And then also if you're if those guys are hitting
Speaker 3: behind players, like if markw is hitting the pro shot first,
Speaker 3: that's that's hard to play against. That's the guy that puts.
Speaker 3: As you said, like Skotti Scheffler, it's not only par threes,
Speaker 3: but it's also like par four's if he's hitting a
Speaker 3: pro shots first. That's a really hard thing mentally to
Speaker 3: play matches against. Because this is a different, completely different
Speaker 3: mental test. People could say, oh, you should play the
Speaker 3: same way as stroke play. It's impossible to play the
Speaker 3: same play as stroke play in max play. And you can,
Speaker 3: but you can't aim away when a guy hits it
Speaker 3: to three feet like you just can't. You know, there's
Speaker 3: it's not like play to the fat side of the green.
Speaker 3: You have to take on shots in different moments because
Speaker 3: you can't just lose holes when you have chances to
Speaker 3: win hole, you know, to match them.
Speaker 2: And and and Andy, that to one point you made there,
Speaker 2: especially in foursomes, is Max is going to be hitting
Speaker 2: those approach shots. And you know Max is one of
Speaker 2: the best iron players in the world, so you're going
Speaker 2: to be hitting first, and you're leaning on Max Homa
Speaker 2: to hit an iron close. So there's a real good opportunity. Now, Andy,
Speaker 2: you just right here it for should if you took Xander.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can't believe. I can't believe I got
Speaker 3: both of them. I can't believe I got my guys.
Speaker 3: All right, here we go write it down again. It's
Speaker 3: just the all around talent. Right, Malleable can play any
Speaker 3: format and I got Xander and can't they're there. I'm
Speaker 3: rolling them out there as much as they can play.
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 3: Think it's it's gonna be just like a physical aspect, Right,
Speaker 3: can can they handle? Can can people handle walking this
Speaker 3: golf course?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Is that a good idea?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Maybe they sit once, but I love I love both
Speaker 3: of their games for alternate shot and and best ball
Speaker 3: And if it were doing this make believe draft format,
Speaker 3: Like these are two guys that, like they're games, you
Speaker 3: don't need to pair them with anybody, like they're they
Speaker 3: could play with anybody. And I think this is like
Speaker 3: the thing that we get hung up too much on
Speaker 3: these like pairings. It's like certain guys are going to
Speaker 3: work with whoever you play and pair them with, Like
Speaker 3: we saw this with Sergio. How many different partners did
Speaker 3: Sergia have over the years. It wasn't like that one
Speaker 3: pairing was just gold. It's just certain players, certain skill
Speaker 3: sets are so greatly rewarded. And I think these two
Speaker 3: guys just being great all round players make them great
Speaker 3: match play players because there's just a level of consistency,
Speaker 3: consistency is Key and King and I love that I
Speaker 3: got Xander and can't you know you you you.
Speaker 2: Touch on something I've been really thinking about with these
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup teams because the twenty four players you said
Speaker 2: you can you said players can play with anybody?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Is this the most players can play with anybody Ryder
Speaker 2: Cup ever? And you think about the twenty four players,
Speaker 2: like who's an a hole?
Speaker 1: Who's a jerk? Like?
Speaker 2: Who were guys not wanting to play with? Like I
Speaker 2: feel like the list is slim, if at all. It
Speaker 2: feels like all of these guys could play with whomever
Speaker 2: they get thrown out there with with their captains and
Speaker 2: we'll be fine with it.
Speaker 3: I mean, of the big names, I think the toughest
Speaker 3: person to play with would be Brooks.
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean it's see but I feel like
Speaker 2: Brooks in this format is so good at match play
Speaker 2: and he's also such a big I want to I
Speaker 2: don't want to lose. I want, you know, more than
Speaker 2: I want to win that I feel like with this team,
Speaker 2: like no Bryson, you know, you don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about whatever the hell was ever going on with Brooks
Speaker 2: and DJ like Ricky, He'll play with Wyndham will play
Speaker 2: with JT will play with, Jordan will play with. Like
Speaker 2: going down the list of the Americans, there's not really
Speaker 2: that combat of other partner that you wouldn't feel comfortable
Speaker 2: throwing Brooks out with.
Speaker 3: You know, who would you least want to play with
Speaker 3: as your partner.
Speaker 2: I mean that would probably be talent question more than
Speaker 2: personality I talk to anybody, I mean it'd probably be
Speaker 2: who we're gonna take twenty third and twenty fourth when
Speaker 2: we get there?
Speaker 3: You know, all right, who who's your next pick?
Speaker 1: All right? So fifth pick? I'm gonna kind of follow
Speaker 1: your lead here.
Speaker 2: You went Xander Cantley, kind of leaning on a Perry,
Speaker 2: and you think you're gonna see a lot in Rome.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same with more Kala. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take Max Homa here.
Speaker 3: I just think I knew you were taking Max early.
Speaker 3: I knew I didn't have to worry about taking Max.
Speaker 3: It's gonna listen, listen.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It's just I think they're gonna be on the first
Speaker 2: tea a lot together, and I think they're gonna be successful,
Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna be probably the most successful
Speaker 2: American team. If it's not Xander Cantley or Brooks and
Speaker 2: Brian and so, I mean Max played so good at
Speaker 2: the President's Cup. I just think he's gets so up
Speaker 2: for this thing, and for whatever reason, when he gets
Speaker 2: up for these events, he seems to play his best.
Speaker 2: You think about how he's played a rib last couple
Speaker 2: of years. I just feel like, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: gonna be another Homer show, you know.
Speaker 3: So we talked about how the top three picks were
Speaker 3: all Europeans and how amazing that was. But now you
Speaker 3: see how the how these things are different, right like
Speaker 3: where the middle like it's just us US US US.
Speaker 1: Straight amer Us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it's a that's a fascinating aspect of
Speaker 3: this whole competition. We talked about Max a lot with
Speaker 3: more kala. The next pick I'm taking is Tommy Fleetwood CA.
Speaker 1: No almost reached there, been.
Speaker 3: Playing been playing great golf. Is uh has had some
Speaker 3: really good Ryder Cup moments and just is a tee
Speaker 3: to green nightmare to deal with again, a guy that
Speaker 3: just hits the ball close a lot. The Butter Butterson issue.
Speaker 3: But it's you know, I guess statistically he profiled his
Speaker 3: like the second or third best putter on the European team,
Speaker 3: which I don't know if that's a good sign for
Speaker 3: the Europeans, but the uh, you know, not everyday Sunday.
Speaker 3: And I like Tobby Fleetwood. I love I love him
Speaker 3: for just match play purposes because of that t degreen excellence.
Speaker 3: And I'm quite thrilled. I'm so I love my team
Speaker 3: so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that one hurts. That's that's my dad.
Speaker 2: Drafted somebody that I really wanted the other day in
Speaker 2: a fantasy draft to pick before me. And nothing gets
Speaker 2: you more in fantasy than when you get that pick
Speaker 2: taken right ahead of you. That's the one for me.
Speaker 2: I had Fleetwood on my list. I thought I could
Speaker 2: take him around five and six. I should have just
Speaker 2: take him at five. I'm such an idiot.
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna take Homa. You know, I knew, I
Speaker 3: knew you were taking him. He's off by board. I
Speaker 3: just put him down at the bottom because I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna reach for Homa because.
Speaker 2: I think I got I think I got duped there.
Speaker 2: I think you chessed me and I was playing checkers there.
Speaker 2: Damn it all right, I'll settle for you know the
Speaker 2: guy that's one of the most majors of anybody this era.
Speaker 1: I'll take Kopka here at six.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I'm a little worried about Brooks.
Speaker 2: I well, I agree with you, but I'm I'm taking
Speaker 2: them in terms. I'm taking them in the sense that
Speaker 2: he'll show up and play good golf. But obviously, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a question.
Speaker 3: He hasn't played. He hasn't played golf.
Speaker 1: Right, That's the thing is he's a he's a very
Speaker 1: big question mark.
Speaker 3: He hasn't played golf, and he's got a kid, a
Speaker 3: new kid. I just don't think, man, I know, I
Speaker 3: don't think head of an exhibition that he has, like,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine he has a lot to gain from
Speaker 3: this play. He's the only guy playing here from Blip, right,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. Any time you second guest Kopka,
Speaker 3: he always comes out big. But for me, I'm just
Speaker 3: worried about Brooks in terms of like, I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna be really rusty. I don't think he really I
Speaker 3: think he doesn't care that much about this. It's not
Speaker 3: a major. Probably just doesn't care that much. And I
Speaker 3: worry about about his his just motivation levels.
Speaker 2: The hair is is is out of control, like between
Speaker 2: him and burns. I mean, this is like almost show
Speaker 2: shoulder linked levels hair.
Speaker 1: Have you seen it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he looks like it. He looks like a
Speaker 3: new dad.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a great way to put it. He looks dad.
Speaker 3: He looks like a little burly.
Speaker 2: He's They've ordered a lot of uber eats. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: probably not been the healthiest us I'm saying. I just
Speaker 2: I've done it. You've done it, like we've all done it.
Speaker 3: It's just those first few months are really hard. And
Speaker 3: I don't think he has had any but I think
Speaker 3: he's just probably been around. He's just been hanging around,
Speaker 3: like I saw it with like it's you know, you
Speaker 3: just want to be around when you have a kid,
Speaker 3: if you're starting. I think, like in just reading the
Speaker 3: tea leaves and reading like hearing his comments to certain
Speaker 3: I can't remember where I heard him just about like
Speaker 3: having the kid. It seems like he wants to be
Speaker 3: a very involved parent.
Speaker 2: I mean still, I will say this, I'm leaning more
Speaker 2: on the talent and less on the lack of golf
Speaker 2: as of late, and I just feel like going back
Speaker 2: to the team mean and pairing. I think Harmon and
Speaker 2: Kep are gonna play together, and I think that is
Speaker 2: a sick, sick group to throw out there. If you're
Speaker 2: ZJ Well, I'm.
Speaker 3: Happy I get my my partner for Fleetwood. I got
Speaker 3: Jordan's Speith, just a guy. I'm taking him. Uh with
Speaker 3: your partner with Fleetwood. Yeah, I'm gonna pair him up.
Speaker 3: That's what I see him. I like. I like the
Speaker 3: match of of of Speith with Fleetwood, and uh that
Speaker 3: I that's my next pick. I'm taking Jordan's Speith and
Speaker 3: he's gonna pair up with Tommy Fleetwood for my team.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying, because this is not
Speaker 2: European specific, so you're you're throwing Fleetwood in Speet out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's like Jesus and then like the
Speaker 2: Golden Child or playing together exactly.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you get got a guy that's
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of a wild card with
Speaker 3: a with a real steady guy and uh or maybe
Speaker 3: I maybe I pare him up with Scotty or Scotty
Speaker 3: or Ram, you know who knows. But I'm taking speak
Speaker 3: with my next pick, and I'm pretty happy to get
Speaker 3: him here. I think like just in terms of like
Speaker 3: he's a guy that can annoy people in match play.
Speaker 3: It's just like, wait, how am I losing this guy
Speaker 3: type type situation?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a real team question for you?
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this lately and I haven't really
Speaker 2: chatted with anybody about it. Let's say Jordan and Justin
Speaker 2: go out, and let's say Justin doesn't play well on Friday, Okay,
Speaker 2: Like they go out both sessions and JT just doesn't
Speaker 2: have it like you hadn't had it for a year
Speaker 2: and a half. If Zach was gonna split the team up,
Speaker 2: Let's say Jordan was playing well. Who is the most
Speaker 2: likely new partner to Jordan on the American side?
Speaker 1: Scotti, It's kind of what I was thinking too.
Speaker 3: I was going to I wouldn't want I like, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you this much like if I was the Europeans,
Speaker 3: I'd be a lot more scared of Scotty Scotti, Speith.
Speaker 3: I think this is the whole. I kind of touched
Speaker 3: on this earlier. I think this whole like we have
Speaker 3: to pair, we have to play these guys with Xander
Speaker 3: and Cantley. I think Xander with anybody and can't lay
Speaker 3: with anybody. You could maybe make an argument there better
Speaker 3: if you split them up, because you get two really
Speaker 3: really strong players. Right with With regards to Spith, I
Speaker 3: think he's such a unique player in the sense of
Speaker 3: like he can swing momentum, you know, like he and
Speaker 3: he hits. You know, he's he's been a really good
Speaker 3: t degree in this year. But like he's just got
Speaker 3: kind of like a little bit of an it factor
Speaker 3: where he can do some like some stuff, right, And
Speaker 3: if you pair like it doesn't mean he fits well
Speaker 3: with like anybody. Right, It's like saying like, hey, you
Speaker 3: know we can't have Steph Curry, We've got we've got
Speaker 3: this other guard. Yeah, Like it's certain players work with anybody,
Speaker 3: and we shouldn't get so locked into this is the
Speaker 3: pairing we have to to do, right, Like Speith was
Speaker 3: great with Patrick Red. Everybody's like, oh, you can't break
Speaker 3: up Speith and Reid. Oh you can't break up j
Speaker 3: T and Speth. Like I think Speed is going to
Speaker 3: be really well or do what really well with any
Speaker 3: type of player you put them with.
Speaker 2: So just for people at home counting, there are four
Speaker 2: Americans left, there are eight by my count Europeans.
Speaker 3: Left this wild's that's the the fascinating thing about way
Speaker 3: these teams stack out. And and to thank God that
Speaker 3: the Europeans had such a surge this year, because if
Speaker 3: this was a couple of years ago, after that that
Speaker 3: the Whistling Straits, I think we would have gotten too,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, Rory probably would have gone with like
Speaker 3: pick five and Hi, yeah that's it, and that, yeah,
Speaker 3: top five, both those guys' top five picks, and then
Speaker 3: nothing nothing for you know, Hovland wasn't hovelin now.
Speaker 1: Right, Andy.
Speaker 2: So in both of my fantasy drafts this year, I
Speaker 2: took Jonathan Taylor. Okay, I took Jonathan Taylor on potential.
Speaker 2: We know who he is, we know how he can play.
Speaker 2: We know that if he gets traded to a team
Speaker 2: that needs to have somebody in the backfield that makes plays,
Speaker 2: he's gonna make plays and he's gonna be a very
Speaker 2: very high rated running back in fantasy football. My seventh pick,
Speaker 2: my seventh pick, is similar to that.
Speaker 1: It is not justin Thomas. I'm not going that way,
Speaker 1: uh huh. I'm going with.
Speaker 2: A young player that is a generational driver the golf ball.
Speaker 2: It's it as far as anybody and hits it very
Speaker 2: very straight. If the game is dialed in Rome, I
Speaker 2: think he could have a great week. Now, I think
Speaker 2: you could also go with three and zero, like there's
Speaker 2: a there's a possibility of that being the case as well.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Ludgig here with my seventh pick. I like Ludwig.
Speaker 2: You know again, I don't know what we're going to
Speaker 2: see out of him, but if he's Ludgig to a
Speaker 2: certain degree, if he's B plus Ludwig, I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be.
Speaker 1: A good week for Ludgig.
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna be able to apply a lot
Speaker 3: of pressure with the driver total. I think like you
Speaker 3: have like your all round players in people in skill sets, right,
Speaker 3: like he has a dominant skill and I like to
Speaker 3: actually think about match play with golf similar to the
Speaker 3: way tennis is. Right, you have your all round players,
Speaker 3: you have your your your power players with the big
Speaker 3: serves like I think Shelton Ben Shelton would fit into
Speaker 3: that power player mold, like what we say.
Speaker 1: Almost a throwback from Sampress used to serve and volley, right.
Speaker 3: And then you have like Medmdev who's just like a control,
Speaker 3: like it just gets everything back right again. That's like
Speaker 3: you're kind of like your Tommy Fleetwood right where he's
Speaker 3: just gonna be in play and he's gonna hit some
Speaker 3: really good shots and he's just gonna be annoying, right.
Speaker 3: And I think with Ludwig he's just this dominant skill.
Speaker 3: He can overwhelm somebody, especially at this golf course with
Speaker 3: the with the setup, there's gonna be a few driveable
Speaker 3: part fours, and and that that's just the driver such
Speaker 3: a weapon. Anytime you can get somebody who might be
Speaker 3: the best in the field at a certain trait, it's
Speaker 3: it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Andy.
Speaker 2: Could we see Ludwig and Rory play four ball together?
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a possibility of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, though you might want to split
Speaker 3: them up in four ball.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I just think more in terms of, like you,
Speaker 2: you and I've both talked about in match play, that
Speaker 2: the sensations you can feel as an opponent. And if
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know a ton about Marcos Simoni,
Speaker 2: but I mean I've watched the no Laying up video.
Speaker 2: I mean seems like there's gonna be drivable par four's
Speaker 2: on this golf course set up to maybe play into
Speaker 2: the hands of the Europeans. I just feel like if
Speaker 2: you if you throw those guys out there, it could
Speaker 2: be a Phil Tiger situation.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: If it goes bad, it could go very bad, but
Speaker 2: you could have a lot of looks for eagle and
Speaker 2: chipping and hitting you know, mid to short irons into
Speaker 2: par five's.
Speaker 3: What was the match at Hazel team was it DJ
Speaker 3: and Brooks and and then Thomas Peters and Rory It
Speaker 3: was just all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when Peters had Peters was a rookie and
Speaker 2: won like four points.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, I think that, and it was like
Speaker 3: everybody in the everybody in it was just just just
Speaker 3: beat it. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Well this this is my question too. A lot of
Speaker 2: the time with these things, right, because the teams and
Speaker 2: the captains are so involved, I wonder if the entertainment
Speaker 2: aspect of this gets thought about in team rooms, right,
Speaker 2: because it is an entertaining product, right, You're trying to
Speaker 2: have people watch it and care about it and get
Speaker 2: involved and turn the TVs on and on the entertaining side,
Speaker 2: that would get golf people geeked out, that would get
Speaker 2: sports people interested. But like you said, is it the
Speaker 2: best use of two of your power players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can split them up and then you
Speaker 3: get looks on both of them, and you can split
Speaker 3: split up one of them and put them with the
Speaker 3: guy I'm about to take.
Speaker 1: I know who this is. I know who it is.
Speaker 3: FITZI wow. Guy that's never won.
Speaker 1: Never never want a point. I never want a half point.
Speaker 1: A Ryder Cup.
Speaker 3: That's not hurted any semblance of a point two.
Speaker 1: Ryder Cups has never won a half point.
Speaker 3: He's never he's gotten a chip on his shoulder, and
Speaker 3: he's a new player. He's got some powerful I think
Speaker 3: he just got engaged. I think I saw on Instagram.
Speaker 3: You know he's a new man. It's a completely new
Speaker 3: fits and I'm taking fits again. I'm just harping on this.
Speaker 3: I want all around skill. You can do everything. He's
Speaker 3: long now. I like fits here.
Speaker 1: Twenty third on my list. Case you're wondering second to
Speaker 1: last on my list.
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine. I love it. This is all
Speaker 3: the batters. I don't need to justify this to anybody else.
Speaker 3: All the fans of the Egg team just know we
Speaker 3: got our guy.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just want to lay this out.
Speaker 2: There are five picks left on both teams, and this
Speaker 2: is where it gets hard. This to me, yeah, for me,
Speaker 2: really tough. This is like when you turn the fantasy
Speaker 2: on auto draft because you're like, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna play these guys outside of Bie
Speaker 2: Weeks anyway, but I'm just gonna lean into a dude that,
Speaker 2: you know history has been a great putter and seems
Speaker 2: like he's good in match play and seems like a
Speaker 2: guy that gets along with everybody and everybody likes playing with.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take.
Speaker 2: Ricky here with my eighth I'm gonna take Ricky Fowler.
Speaker 2: I will never forget the match. I'll never forget it.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget Eduardo just four down with four to go,
Speaker 2: had to win all four and he did it. That
Speaker 2: was those That was the worst outfit Ryder Cup ever,
Speaker 2: which is saying something on the American side. I was
Speaker 2: watching that one the other day. Oh a shout out
Speaker 2: to the Ryder Cup YouTube page. By the way, Andy,
Speaker 2: if you watch those, I don't know if they've cut
Speaker 2: audio on the matches, but they have these like fifty
Speaker 2: minute YouTube videos of old Ryder Cup matches that are great,
Speaker 2: and the audio, like if you go watch the old
Speaker 2: film matches, he is chirping so much and fit in
Speaker 2: Phil's you know manner. It is unbelievable missing putts and
Speaker 2: you hear Phil go, well, that's too bad, you know,
Speaker 2: Oh that's too bad. It's like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: they've if they've pumped up, like the natural audio and
Speaker 2: those matches on YouTube, but they are a great watch
Speaker 2: at night if the kids go to bed.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I've got something that I'm gonna be diving
Speaker 3: into the next couple of weeks. Thank you for that record.
Speaker 2: By the way, a lot of Americans on my team,
Speaker 2: A lot of Americans on my squad.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I got I got Ricky.
Speaker 3: With my I've got I got another American. I thought
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to take this guy. I
Speaker 3: was really I was really no, I I thought you
Speaker 3: were going to take him. When you were describing the
Speaker 3: last player, I think he's going to have a chip
Speaker 3: on his shoulder. People are talking about, Hey, this guy
Speaker 3: shouldn't be on the team. He got snubbed in his
Speaker 3: amateur days. I'm taking Sam Burns and I think he's
Speaker 3: just got a little bit of red ass to him.
Speaker 3: And I just don't you know, I think it's a
Speaker 3: hate to lose guy with some with a lot of talent,
Speaker 3: and I think he's just got something to prove. And
Speaker 3: I and I I think people are sleeping on how
Speaker 3: talented he is. Like I, you know, of all the people,
Speaker 3: think it's fair should have been left off, Like I
Speaker 3: don't think he should have been one of the people
Speaker 3: left off. So I've got I've got the Sam Burns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I, I mean I I agree with
Speaker 2: everything you said about Sam Burns. He was probably gonna
Speaker 2: be my next pick, so a little bummed you took him,
Speaker 2: But I'm with you in it. And it seems like
Speaker 2: he's gonna play with Scotty, which now you have that
Speaker 2: on your team as well, which is nice. Uh So
Speaker 2: that'll be a good pairing for ant for the team.
Speaker 2: Team agg grouping to go out. Uh I listen, two
Speaker 2: Americans left, It's Wyndham Clark and JT. And I'm not
Speaker 2: taking either of them. So I gotta go European here.
Speaker 2: It's it's not great. It's not great.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought you were gonna take JT in here.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not gonna do zone.
Speaker 2: This is JT zone for you. I'm gonna go Shane
Speaker 2: Lowry here. I'm just gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: a vat that. You know he probably plays a session
Speaker 2: with Rory here there. I've got both of those guys
Speaker 2: on my team. Throw them out there, let's see what
Speaker 2: they can do. We know when Shane Lowry gets going
Speaker 2: and gets playing well, he can rock and roll. But
Speaker 2: you know, I mean I again, I think we're to
Speaker 2: the point now where I mean, you know, I'm taking
Speaker 2: him over oyguard right, all right.
Speaker 3: I got Wyndam Clark, I'm taking Wait.
Speaker 2: A minute, Wait a minute, where you you said you're
Speaker 2: taking JT.
Speaker 3: No, I was getting to the JT zone. I'm in
Speaker 3: the I'm in the range. But I got Wyndham Clark
Speaker 3: ahead of him. Obviously elite, elite driver of the golf ball.
Speaker 3: I think he he can keep up with anybody. You
Speaker 3: know what you said about Ludwig. I think Wyndham Clark's
Speaker 3: in that, in that group that could be the best
Speaker 3: driver of the golf ball in a given week. Also,
Speaker 3: as we saw at at the US Open, extraordinarily good putter.
Speaker 3: So I like Wyndham Clark, I think he's, like, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously kind of forced the American's hand. Who knows if
Speaker 3: he's on here, if he finishes second in the US Open,
Speaker 3: probably isn't on this team, but probably, Like I think
Speaker 3: he's probably this year proven to be one of the
Speaker 3: twelve best American golfers this year. So without a doubt,
Speaker 3: I I just think he's he's I think he's another guy.
Speaker 3: He's a rookie, he's got stuff to prove. He wants
Speaker 3: to probably play a lot of these and I think
Speaker 3: he could well.
Speaker 2: I mean it's again to your point on the on
Speaker 2: the season of Clark and being a top twelve American,
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear Wyndham Clark US Open champion a million
Speaker 2: times when you watch golf over the next two or
Speaker 2: three years. You know, broadcasters always like to lean on
Speaker 2: like their highest accomplishment. I mean, he won the Wells
Speaker 2: Fargo this year too. I mean it's a it was
Speaker 2: an elevated event. Now I think it's a signature event,
Speaker 2: but it was an elevated event at the time. Like
Speaker 2: that's a big win, you know, I mean, you win
Speaker 2: that event and you win the US Open, like, that's very,
Speaker 2: very impressive to do in a full season when you
Speaker 2: have never been in that position before. So probably a
Speaker 2: little low on the list to be fair, Here we go,
Speaker 2: here it is, I'm doing it. I mean, if he's
Speaker 2: if he's justin Thomas Ryder Cup, justin Thomas, this is
Speaker 2: gonna make us look stupid that he was third to
Speaker 2: last pick. He's been third to last pick. Right for me,
Speaker 2: it is okay, yeah, this is this is my tenth pick.
Speaker 2: I mean, he he's been incredible in Ryder Cups and
Speaker 2: team events in general, incredible. And if he can find
Speaker 2: the form like we've seen with Sergio and like we've
Speaker 2: seen with Poulter over the years, not counting whistling straights
Speaker 2: with Poulter, if he can find whatever works for him
Speaker 2: in match play, we're going to talk about JT, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously deserving the pick, and all that stuff comes Sunday
Speaker 2: night and uh you know, I mean, now, now, now
Speaker 2: you got to throw speed with Fleetwood, and I get
Speaker 2: JT to maybe throw out there with Max one session
Speaker 2: or blood big one session.
Speaker 1: You never know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it's funny, like I think I've presented
Speaker 3: a lot of cases against picking JT just from like
Speaker 3: just purely like what should the Ryder Cup be? Should
Speaker 3: it be like an All NBA since there's big financial benefits, right,
Speaker 3: you know, the All NBA team in the NBA, like
Speaker 3: you get these contract bonuses, and it's similar in golf,
Speaker 3: like these guys get so like that's kind of been
Speaker 3: my premise of like don't pick JT. Right is because
Speaker 3: this is a historical moment and an honor for players, right,
Speaker 3: and he did not do what he needed to do
Speaker 3: to deserve a pick. Now, when I did this exercise,
Speaker 3: I found it's like, this is why you pick JT
Speaker 3: because of American players. I had him ahead of Max Homer,
Speaker 3: Ricky Fowler, and Brian Harmon. He was the sixteenth. He
Speaker 3: was sixteenth on my list and probably could have easily
Speaker 3: been gotten up to like fourteen from like probably Sam
Speaker 3: Burns down, which was Sam Burns was twelfth down I
Speaker 3: had It was kind of just a I don't know,
Speaker 3: I guess this guy here type thing. So like when
Speaker 3: you think about it from that prism, JT was a
Speaker 3: no brainer. Now, I think the thing that you have
Speaker 3: to grapple with with with the Ryder Cup is like
Speaker 3: it's like Hall of Fame criteria type stuff. Totally, totally,
Speaker 3: And and Keegan who earned points like got got pulled
Speaker 3: on that, like he didn't get like if he's a
Speaker 3: Ryder Cupper ten years apart, ten plus years apart, that's
Speaker 3: like a crazy career statistic that shows longevity and excellence
Speaker 3: in the game. So this is the case for JT
Speaker 3: is that he, without a doubt, wasn't going to be
Speaker 3: the last pick.
Speaker 1: In this Yep.
Speaker 2: It's a great point. And I mean he was last
Speaker 2: American taken for US. But you had Americans below him
Speaker 2: on your list, huh and we have.
Speaker 3: Would you have picked him ahead of Wyndham Clark?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had. I had Clark low on my list.
Speaker 2: Okay, just just simply because of the To me, there's
Speaker 2: unknown and then there's unknown unknown, and I just feel
Speaker 2: like with Windham, it's a lot of unknown and it'll
Speaker 2: be what you know, four months since the US opened.
Speaker 2: I mean, it'll just be interested to see what he
Speaker 2: can do. We have five picks left. We have five
Speaker 2: Europeans on the board, by.
Speaker 3: The way, that's the thing this is I you know,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about reaching to get one of my guys,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take Hatton here. Wow, he had a
Speaker 3: great year. He was like, really really good this year.
Speaker 3: Somebody that might get under people's skin, and he might
Speaker 3: get his under The problem is he might get looking
Speaker 3: at my team. I have no clue. I might put
Speaker 3: him out with there with speed. Just see what happens.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You might go ninety nine James and just not play
Speaker 2: until singles. The problem with Hatton is to me, is
Speaker 2: I think the self deprecation works in stroke play events
Speaker 2: because you're only shit talking yourself.
Speaker 3: Yes, how need to bring your teammate down.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is when you're acting the way
Speaker 2: Hatton acts on the golf.
Speaker 1: And I love Tyrol Hatton.
Speaker 2: I got asked the other day in an interview, who's
Speaker 2: my favorite golfer in the world to watch. I said,
Speaker 2: Tyrol Hadden because you never know what you're gonna get,
Speaker 2: and he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed him. I love Tyrol Hadden.
Speaker 2: But as a partner on the golf course, and you
Speaker 2: played a lot of competitive golf in your years, who's
Speaker 2: the worst partner to have. It's the negative partner. It's
Speaker 2: the guy that gets down and gets down on the
Speaker 2: dumps and gets down on his own game. That partner
Speaker 2: is hard to play with because in it inevitably creeps
Speaker 2: into what you're doing right totally. So I just think
Speaker 2: he's a hard guy. I think to throw out there
Speaker 2: with someone that's real positive, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe maybe we'll find a partner later in this.
Speaker 2: Man, this is uh, this is it. Here we are
Speaker 2: Hoy Guard Rose, your voice, Step and Bobby Mack. Final
Speaker 2: four on the board. So do you go veteran or
Speaker 2: do you go young player? Do you go unknown or
Speaker 2: do you go somebody that's done it in their life.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lean and I don't love lean and veteran
Speaker 2: and Ryder cups. I think it's overrated. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: Justin Rose here.
Speaker 3: Thank God. I'm just so happy that I got Step,
Speaker 3: I got the guy.
Speaker 1: You got Step. Here we go. I'm so worried you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna say, Hm, I gonna pass on Hattan and got
Speaker 3: my guy. I don't think we really need to talk
Speaker 3: about just us.
Speaker 1: It's fine. We'll see what he does. He might play
Speaker 1: with the Rory. Who knows.
Speaker 2: You know, I've done well in Ryder cups. He's done
Speaker 2: bad and Ryder cuffs who that knows.
Speaker 3: The septic tank sepstraca. He really showed me something at
Speaker 3: the UH at the Open. I thought that was just
Speaker 3: an illuminating performance. I'm ready for him to be that
Speaker 3: is the player that nobody saw coming.
Speaker 2: He's the He's he's your I mean, what is the
Speaker 2: last one would have been?
Speaker 1: Who was last time?
Speaker 2: Can't Ley and Xander Destin Johnson going five and oh
Speaker 2: Thomas Scheffler Cheffler Scheffler physically physically imposing presents.
Speaker 1: God, you're going back to this again. Step is physically Listen. Listen.
Speaker 3: We've got a physically imposing team. We've got rom We've
Speaker 3: got uh Tony, Tommy Fleetwood's caddy. We got Seth Scott
Speaker 3: real quick.
Speaker 1: You have Xander Can't lay Spieth, Fitzpatrick Manhattan on your team.
Speaker 3: He got something. We got some big guys up front.
Speaker 3: We can roll out some imposing player.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you want to throw your team at my
Speaker 2: team in like a five on five pickup game, I'd
Speaker 2: play it. If you want to do like flag football,
Speaker 2: I'd feel comfortable with my squad as well, even wrestling.
Speaker 1: I think my team would be Okay.
Speaker 3: You got Ricky and Harman.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean you gotta Rugby has the guys that run the ball.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta have blockers in the front.
Speaker 3: All right, here you going next two picks left. I
Speaker 3: know you're gonna saddle it.
Speaker 1: I know I gotta do it. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: so unknown. I'll take away guard.
Speaker 3: All right. That leaves with the last guy on my board. Hey,
Speaker 3: can I ask you a question real quick going back
Speaker 3: to my last pick? Yeah, if I ask you, you
Speaker 3: you literally cover golf on a week tweek basis. You
Speaker 3: do three podcasts a week about topical golf and literally
Speaker 3: tournament golf. Nobody on the world I would trust more
Speaker 3: than maybe you, poor Raff like wrap a port or
Speaker 3: you know, to share somebody like that or Doug Ferguson
Speaker 3: that like literally covers the sport on a week to
Speaker 3: week basis. Can you tell me one great tournament Justin
Speaker 3: ros has had this year? He've won Pebble?
Speaker 1: Oh, well, there you go.
Speaker 2: I just was wondering if you could, if you could
Speaker 2: ring one big event that was in February.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what he's been doing too. He's
Speaker 3: been having these like fluky major rounds, I feel like
Speaker 3: for a few years and it like it all the
Speaker 3: tip of the iceberg of this was pebble, where like
Speaker 3: it was like he was third place and he was
Speaker 3: negative strokes game Teita Green right, he was just like putting.
Speaker 3: It was like everybody's like, this is either gonna fall
Speaker 3: apart or maybe you'll like hit it well for once,
Speaker 3: and it fell apart. And since then it's like we've
Speaker 3: been going down underground where it's like one round he played,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, Justin Roch shot sixty five, Like how
Speaker 3: did he do that? It's oh, he made like three
Speaker 3: hundred feet of putts, you know, and like that's where
Speaker 3: we've gotten with Justin Rose. I don't know. I thought
Speaker 3: you were gonna ask me a ho Guard question, which
Speaker 3: was I was gonna be way less prepared.
Speaker 2: For for people that aren't watching this or if this
Speaker 2: is even on YouTube. Andy was frantically googling when I
Speaker 2: started that question, and I was thinking he was going
Speaker 2: to go to the Rose page. He was obviously going
Speaker 2: to the Holy Guard page.
Speaker 3: I was. I was like, I was like, I know
Speaker 3: he's won a couple of things, but Nikolai Hoguard is
Speaker 3: I think a complete unknown.
Speaker 1: How many how many matches does he play? Does he play? Two?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think two. I'm I'm way more worried about
Speaker 3: Justin Rose and Bobby Mack than Hoguard same.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: I'm just the Rose thing is a bit of like,
Speaker 2: obviously he knows what he's he knows how to do this.
Speaker 2: If he can somehow conjure up that again, maybe he
Speaker 2: has a good week. I don't expect him to have
Speaker 2: a good week. There's a reason he was my second
Speaker 2: to last pick. There's a reason you take kickers in
Speaker 2: the second to last round, right, I mean you gotta
Speaker 2: have somebody on your team to play that position.
Speaker 3: But you had. We had to pick without those two guys,
Speaker 3: so they would you most.
Speaker 2: Want to see on the American side play Rose and Sae, Like,
Speaker 2: who do you think would be.
Speaker 1: The most entertaining?
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I think mine what what? I don't think? I think?
Speaker 3: I think you to worry about about Kepka being complacent
Speaker 3: like he's not, he's not getting up for the match,
Speaker 3: and then Rose sneaks someone out like I think you
Speaker 3: got to put Ka against like rom like it just
Speaker 3: have a it was uh. I was listening to Rory
Speaker 3: on the Subpar Pod. Yeah, they the Subpar Guy's Colt
Speaker 3: and Drew Stultz were talking about how they want the
Speaker 3: Ryder Cup to be, like the captains get a pick
Speaker 3: like based off of the other ones versus the blind
Speaker 3: the blind card. Where do you fall on that? So
Speaker 3: like President's Cup style where they go one after another?
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I mean way more fun that way.
Speaker 1: I hate that.
Speaker 3: I think the blind cards the way to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, wait, so you're saying the other way way.
Speaker 3: I like their strategy that you're trying to think about,
Speaker 3: like where where people are going to slot players and
Speaker 3: you don't know. I like that. I like everybody doing
Speaker 3: it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2: We do a golf event in January every year, me
Speaker 2: and my fifteen idiot buddies, and we do the President's
Speaker 2: Cup way where you know, a team is presented and
Speaker 2: then you get to counter that team.
Speaker 3: It's kind of fun. It is better for TV that way.
Speaker 3: I think it's better for like internal strategy, trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the other person's thinking and trying to
Speaker 3: roll out your strategy the other person trying to counter.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: Andy, let me just say the only defense I'll give
Speaker 2: you on this point is this all I think about
Speaker 2: on a day to day and week to week basis
Speaker 2: is how to change things in golf. I write about
Speaker 2: it for the newsletter a lot, I text you about it,
Speaker 2: We talk about it everybody in golf. All we're ever
Speaker 2: trying to do is change things in the game. This
Speaker 2: is like the loane thing in golf that doesn't need
Speaker 2: changing is the Ryder Cup. It's perfect the way it is.
Speaker 2: We don't got to change anything. We don't need to
Speaker 2: mess with the way teams are picked, formatting, all that
Speaker 2: Stuff's like like, this event is perfect.
Speaker 1: It's perfect.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna push back one big change I'd
Speaker 3: like to see in the Ryder Cup. Can we go
Speaker 3: back to the venues of yesteryear? Could we get the
Speaker 3: old course, Could we get like Hinch, Can we like
Speaker 3: can we go to like great golf courses instead of
Speaker 3: these like made for Ryder Cup places?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: But but but match play is the is the s
Speaker 2: portion of golf. It doesn't necessarily matter with the golf.
Speaker 3: I agree, But it's not like it's not gonna be
Speaker 3: better if it's had a great golf course.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I I obviously it's not gonna make
Speaker 1: it worse. Yeah, it's well.
Speaker 2: I mean one of the silliest things that they do
Speaker 2: is when they change the nines. Yeah, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I don't like this golf course to begin with, and
Speaker 2: now I don't know what hole they're playing, Like the
Speaker 2: President's Cup last year, It's like.
Speaker 1: Can we just play it the way it's played?
Speaker 3: Well? In the course, the best word is always like, well,
Speaker 3: we don't want the eighteenth hole to be insignificant. And
Speaker 3: whenever they re route. Whenever they do the reroute, every
Speaker 3: match always goes to eighteen and you're like, well, I'm
Speaker 3: glad they're playing the worst sole on the golf course.
Speaker 3: It's the eighteenth. Like I'm glad this boring gas hole
Speaker 3: is the last hole instead of you know, Austin is
Speaker 3: just that eighteenth hole in Austin.
Speaker 1: God, love it.
Speaker 2: I love that golf course. But my god, I mean
Speaker 2: it's like three eighty. You're like, what is this hole
Speaker 2: for these guys?
Speaker 3: I mean, what about the rory T shot this year
Speaker 3: that was made the shot of the year.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not going to go shot at the year,
Speaker 1: but I mean it might be in the top ten.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 3: That was like d Windham's shot at the US Open
Speaker 3: on Saturday. I'm fourteen on eighteen in the dark.
Speaker 1: Oh my god when he hit the flag. Dude, Andy,
Speaker 1: this is this is I think.
Speaker 3: Rory wins that if Wyndham Clark's not in the final group.
Speaker 1: So it's it's unbelievable. You brought that up. It was.
Speaker 2: It was floating on Instagram yesterday, the shot into eighteen,
Speaker 2: the one that he hit off the flag stick, and
Speaker 2: it's this will be forgot in history forever that it
Speaker 2: changed the final pairing. And I was thinking the exact
Speaker 2: same thing you just said, the exact same thing. Ricky
Speaker 2: was leading, Rory was in the final pairing, and Wendy
Speaker 2: Wyndham because of that shot, got in the final pairing.
Speaker 2: And I'm with you, I think all of that changes
Speaker 2: if that shot doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was hanging around the media center. I think
Speaker 3: Rory was talking and I saw I was watching it.
Speaker 3: I was kind of like floating it. There's two tents
Speaker 3: that were together, one had a TV, not the one
Speaker 3: Rory was in, and I was kind of watching what
Speaker 3: was happening, and I saw I was watching the shot,
Speaker 3: and then I saw Rory's manager was watching the shot, Sean,
Speaker 3: and I saw him like when he hit the shot,
Speaker 3: like there was like a visible like disappointment reaction of
Speaker 3: what happened, because like I know, he knew that if
Speaker 3: Rory was in like there was that was just a
Speaker 3: monumental moment. I think, like to me, like maybe the
Speaker 3: shot of the year. No shot made a bigger impact
Speaker 3: on a major championship.
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna go through our teams.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm glad you were taking I've mine boulded, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so my team is Rory, I'm going
Speaker 2: in order of our picks, by the way, Rory Hoveland,
Speaker 2: Harmon Morikawa, Homa, Keopka, Ludwig, Ricky Lowry, Justin Thomas, Justin Rose,
Speaker 2: Justin Zone, and Hoyguard. And Andy's team is Rom Scottie, Xander,
Speaker 2: Can't Lay, Fleetwood Speed, Fitzpatrick's never won a point in
Speaker 2: a Ryder Cup, Burns, Clark, Hatton, Sepp and twenty fourth
Speaker 2: pick of the experiment was Bobby.
Speaker 3: Mack So I got I got ten of my top
Speaker 3: fourteen on on board.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You probably were in the same same zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like you said, I mean I
Speaker 2: had Harmon high on my list. I had Maximore Kwa
Speaker 2: high on my list. You didn't have as high. And
Speaker 2: I had Ludwig relatively high on my list. I was
Speaker 2: I was hoping to get you know again, I want
Speaker 2: to get Ludwig. I mean, it's like it's like Wimby, Right,
Speaker 2: I don't know if Wimby's gonna be great in the NBA, but.
Speaker 1: I think it is great. He's gonna be really great,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey, this is fun. I hope this
Speaker 3: gets everybody in the in the Ryder Cup mood. And uh, Shane,
Speaker 3: Well you got anything going on? What you got? What
Speaker 3: you got coming up? You got scratch series?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So when is this strop? It is dropping this week? Yeah, Thursday,
Speaker 2: all right, So h Thursday through Sunday Golf Channel. I'll
Speaker 2: be hosting Corn Ferry broadcast with James Nitties and Gary
Speaker 2: Christian and playoffs. We don't normally have a fourth member
Speaker 2: of the team, Ned Michael's home game for him in Tennessee,
Speaker 2: so he'll be on the grounds as well, and then
Speaker 2: I have a series drop in I think on Thursday
Speaker 2: with Scratch about caddying, and then you can listen to
Speaker 2: my podcast. I got two of them, Get a Grip
Speaker 2: and the Ping Proving Grounds podcast.
Speaker 3: Next week I heard I heard rave reviews for the
Speaker 3: Joel Joel Damon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah we did.
Speaker 2: If you, if you, if you don't know what we're
Speaker 2: talking about. I had Joel and Gino on last week
Speaker 2: on the Get a Grip podcast. We did the five
Speaker 2: worst shots and five worst caddy decisions of their entire career.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. It was so fun to do.
Speaker 3: That's I got. I got multiple texts from like friends
Speaker 3: who don't know you, like friends like my friends prior
Speaker 3: to this thing about that pod. So that's that's good.
Speaker 3: You reached out into the they were they were comments
Speaker 3: coming in from out of the golf echo chamber.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2: I might see you next week to which or in
Speaker 2: two weeks which I'm excited about as well. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we we have KFT like two straight weeks on TV
Speaker 2: week off and then the finals are on TV as well,
Speaker 2: so I'll be hosting all those.
Speaker 3: So yeah, to get get into the corn Faerry with
Speaker 3: with everything online.
Speaker 2: Totally great, great, guys, great, great players, a lot of
Speaker 2: young players in there as well, so tune into that
Speaker 2: if you got a minute. Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday
Speaker 2: on Golf.
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to another edition of the Friday
Speaker 3: Golf Podcast, and thank you to Shane Bacon for coming on.
Speaker 3: Today's episode was edited and produced by Matt Rushes. Thank you, Matt.
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