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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Lisa mcgarrity back with us. Has been a professional psychic

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Speaker 2: medium for more than thirty years. Our expertise encompasses spiritual readings,

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Speaker 2: curse removals, energetic cleansing, healings, intuitive counseling. Lisa has been

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Speaker 2: able to communicate with the dead as well as predict

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Speaker 2: the future. In addition, she's the proprietor of Envisioned Crystal,

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Speaker 2: a beloved metaphysical shop in historic Port Jefferson, New York.

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Speaker 2: Lisa is a renowned teacher of magic, psychic development and

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Speaker 2: believe strongly there is spiritual solutions to every problem. Lisa,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. Have you been hi, George.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here tonight. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to this. Let's do with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been a very busy time here in Port Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing lots of clients and having a great time

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Speaker 3: with it, so all as well.

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Speaker 2: How did this begin for you? Start? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Gosh, you know when I was a very young child,

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Speaker 3: and in fact I was eleven years old, my funny

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Speaker 3: mother decided to give me an interesting gift for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It was in my Christmas stocking. She gave me a

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Speaker 3: deck of Tarot cards. So at that young age I

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Speaker 3: started working with the cards. I had other psychics and

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Speaker 3: other spiritual people in my family, and I just really

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Speaker 3: had a knack for it. I could interpret dreams and

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Speaker 3: pick up feelings and predict the future. And I've been

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Speaker 3: doing it all my life.

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Speaker 2: Did you even know what the tarot cards were? At

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Speaker 2: that young age.

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Speaker 3: I was a precocious child. I was a strange child.

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Speaker 3: I'll be the first to admit that. So yeah, I

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Speaker 3: did have some idea and I did have some understanding.

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Speaker 3: I was very, very excited to have my own deck

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Speaker 3: and to be able to get started with them.

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Speaker 2: Are you a witch?

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Speaker 3: I am a witch. It's funny how you ask me that. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm a witch. And for me, what that means is

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Speaker 3: that my spirituality comes right from nature. I follow the seasons,

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Speaker 3: I follow the cycles of nature. I go right along

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Speaker 3: with the cycles of the moon. And for my point

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Speaker 3: of view on this is that for me to understand

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Speaker 3: Creator or God, I can do that through understanding God's

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Speaker 3: creation which to me is the natural world, and that's

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Speaker 3: where I get my most inspiration from.

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Speaker 2: Are you a Wickan?

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Speaker 3: I don't technically consider myself a Wickan, although I have

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Speaker 3: spent time in Wickan circles. It's a little bit of

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Speaker 3: kind of a subset the way maybe a Lutheran is

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Speaker 3: a type of a Christian, a Wickan is a type

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Speaker 3: of a witch. And the way that I practice today

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Speaker 3: is a little more free flowing. I get a lot

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Speaker 3: of inspiration from folk magic and mythology as well as

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Speaker 3: just you know, my first hand experience with spirit.

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Speaker 2: If you were in Salem, Massachusetts during their witch trials,

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Speaker 2: would they have gotten you?

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Speaker 3: I think I would have blended in. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty I'm pretty good at blending and when I need to,

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Speaker 3: so I hope I would have blended in. But that

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Speaker 3: was a tragic time in history.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk with you tonight, Lisa, about a

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Speaker 2: lot of different things. But we've been getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of email responses from people who think they've been cursed.

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Speaker 2: What does a curse mean to you?

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Speaker 3: So a curse is a very troubling and very interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, years ago, when I was beginning my work

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Speaker 3: as a professional psychic. I would hear over and over

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Speaker 3: from other mediums and other spiritual teachers. Oh, there's no

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Speaker 3: such thing as a curs you know, that's just made up.

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Speaker 3: If you don't believe in it, it can't happen to you.

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Speaker 3: But over our time I really found a completely different

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Speaker 3: point of view on that. I think it is possible

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Speaker 3: that just the same way as one person pray for

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Speaker 3: another and bless them, unfortunately, one person can also be

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Speaker 3: angry with someone and curse them. And sometimes it's done accidentally,

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Speaker 3: it can happen in families, and sometimes it's done on purpose.

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Speaker 3: I hate to say it. So there can be patterns,

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Speaker 3: long standing patterns of negative energy that get into people's

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Speaker 3: They're on repeat. And my job when I'm with someone

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Speaker 2: Can an individual get rid of a curse on themselves?

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Speaker 2: Do they need to go to a practitioner like you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, first thing I would do if I felt like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: power and they just need to tune into it. So

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Speaker 3: first steps, work on it yourself. But just like anything else,

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Speaker 3: if I said, grap my knee, I can probably wash

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Speaker 3: it and put a band aid on it. But if

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Speaker 3: and that would be the difference for me, I'd look

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Speaker 3: for a professional. If it's just not getting better, if

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Speaker 3: it's very long standing, or that if the things that

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Speaker 3: you've tried so far just aren't quite coming together, then

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Speaker 3: look for someone like me.

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Speaker 2: Why would somebody curse somebody?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, we have such a beautiful life

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Speaker 3: and there's such an abundance of resources. It's kind of

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Speaker 3: mind boggling that you take the time and energy to bother,

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Speaker 3: to hurt somebody else. But as we all know, there

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Speaker 3: of those emotions. Whether again it could be accidentally, sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's on purpose. But those long standing negative emotions can

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Speaker 3: cause people to lash out, and that's how curses seem

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Speaker 2: Does karma fit into any of this, in that if

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Speaker 2: somebody puts a curse on somebody, does it bite them

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Speaker 2: to for sure?

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Speaker 3: For sure, there is such a thing as karma in

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Speaker 3: the world. It's my belief that what you put out

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Speaker 3: And if you meet someone and I meet them here, sometimes, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: if you meet someone who's been doing negative magic or

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Speaker 3: doing awful things for a long period of time, generally speaking,

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Speaker 3: their life is a mess. You know, they don't have

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Speaker 3: a good life either. So it's a double negative here.

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Speaker 3: You know, what happens to those people is the things

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Speaker 3: they wish on others do tend to come back to them.

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Speaker 3: But it can also impact their target. So if you

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Speaker 2: We see a lot of evil on this planet, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: we too, we get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: I wish we could just get rid of it, right, right,

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Speaker 3: let's do it. I'm in and let's give that a try.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think what's happening here on planet Earth

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Speaker 3: the Earth's school, and the way that we learn and

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Speaker 3: the way that we grow is we engage with this great,

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Speaker 3: big force, which is free will. Every single human being

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Speaker 3: things that aren't really mine or that I'm not entitled to.

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Speaker 3: but they're using it, of course in the wrong way.

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Speaker 3: So I think as we evolve as human beings and

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Speaker 3: these bad patterns. I do think that ultimately across the

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Speaker 3: really at a point where evil versus good, good versus evil,

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Speaker 3: that's what's happening right now. I'm print at Earth, and

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Speaker 3: it's very important that each of us makes a real

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Speaker 2: You pick up on auras in the energy field, don't.

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Speaker 3: You, Yes, I do absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell by someone's aura if they're evil or not, I.

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Speaker 3: Sure can tell, you know. I almost wish everyone could

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Speaker 3: see ors, because then you would know in a minute, right, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what you're facing? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean what I see with most people, they

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Speaker 3: have a beautiful glow around them. Humanity is actually really beautiful,

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Speaker 3: and most folks light up, whether it's red or blue,

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Speaker 3: that's their rac field. If someone is a very dark spirit,

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Speaker 3: if they're motivated by jealousy, envy, greed, it's it's not

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Speaker 3: that is an energy that seems to be directing their

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Speaker 2: What creates evil? Is it the devil that does it?

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Speaker 3: I don't really believe in the devil per se, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that there's a little red man with

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Speaker 3: little horns, no, I don't think so. The chemic acue

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Speaker 3: Halloween costume, right, But no, I do think that there

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Speaker 3: You know, if there's creation, and creation is good, there's

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Speaker 3: also destruction, and destruction can take can take away all

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Speaker 3: It's definitely out there.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching this story about a serial killer in

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Speaker 2: they had apparently no idea what he was doing. How

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's what's very frightening, And that's why

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Speaker 3: I think it's important to begin to look for the signs,

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Speaker 3: really kind of learn to discriminator, discern who is a

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Speaker 3: good person, who's authentically good, and who has that cold

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Speaker 3: heart inside them. I think that people who are truly

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Speaker 3: They can appear normal, They can appear like they are,

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Speaker 3: to say, they know how to blend in themselves, and

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Speaker 2: How can good people protect themselves against evil?

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Speaker 3: That's the challenge, right, That's definitely the challenge for my clients,

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Speaker 3: and it's something that I think about all the time.

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Speaker 3: I think we can become stronger as individuals no matter

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Speaker 3: what your spiritual path is or what you're working on

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Speaker 3: in life. You become stronger the more you engage with God,

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Speaker 3: the more that you get a real nice strong will.

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Speaker 3: In my practice, we call that a divine will. You

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Speaker 3: have this intention to do good in the world and

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Speaker 3: to be a good person. If you exercise that divine will,

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Speaker 3: you become stronger. Your vibration increases, and then what happens

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Speaker 3: is those people who have negative energies that can't really

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Speaker 3: If you keep your vibration high, so things like prayer, meditation,

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Speaker 2: Or with Lisa Lagarrity or websites. You're linked up at

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Speaker 2: coastocoastdaim dot com. What does evil want? What's their bottom line?

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Speaker 2: We're going to take calls next hour with Lisa and

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Speaker 2: Do you know our guest and tarot expert art Rosan Garden.

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Speaker 3: I have heard of him yet.

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Speaker 2: Great guy with terror curs tarot cards. Indeed, do you

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Speaker 3: So today I pulled the Star cards very early in

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Speaker 3: You still can make those types of choices that keep

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