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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: Two top leaders of Britain's television network BBC say they

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Speaker 2: are resigning after allegations of British Broadcasting Corporation made a

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Speaker 2: misleading edit of a speech by President Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's very notable.

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Speaker 3: Both Tim Davey, who is the chief executive of all

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Speaker 3: of the BBC, as well as Deborah Tournettes, who's the

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Speaker 3: head of BBC News, they are both stepping down this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: this evening in the UK, and they are both citing

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Speaker 3: this recent controversy but also the broader climate the BBC

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Speaker 3: operates in.

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Speaker 4: We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll

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Speaker 4: be there with you, and we fight.

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Speaker 5: We fight like hell.

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Speaker 6: Trump didn't in fact say this at all. The BBC

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Speaker 6: spliced together two clips that took place fifty four minutes apart.

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Speaker 5: So let's go through it again.

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Speaker 7: We're going to walk down to the Capitol and.

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Speaker 5: I'll be there with you.

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Speaker 6: See that between Capital and and that's a cut. Here's

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Speaker 6: what Trump actually said.

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Speaker 7: We're going to walk down to the Capitol.

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Speaker 8: And we're going to cheer on our brave.

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Speaker 3: Senators and congressmen and women.

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Speaker 8: Was Charlie Kirk's assassination a hate crime. Again, I would

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Speaker 8: have the same answer.

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Speaker 5: There are indications that it may have been a hate crime.

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Speaker 9: There is a Christian aspect to this, There's a transgender.

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Speaker 10: Aspect to this.

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Speaker 4: Missioner Tish received a heads up from ICE that that

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Speaker 4: raid would occur on Canal Street.

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Speaker 8: Now, apparently she did give the Adams administration a heads up.

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Speaker 7: If you were in his shoes, how would you have

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Speaker 7: reacted to this?

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Speaker 8: Would you have said, yes, MPD officers do not interfere with.

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Speaker 7: Ice, But how would you have acted? As mayor?

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Speaker 4: What I will continue to do is be someone who

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Speaker 4: will stand up for New Yorkers when Donald Trump is

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Speaker 4: seeking to fulfill his promise to create the single largest

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Speaker 4: deportation force in American history, and MINYPD will continue to

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Speaker 4: not be of assistance to ICE whenever they are trying

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Speaker 4: to terrorize New Yorkers across the five boroughs.

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Speaker 11: Who lives in your country determines what your country is. Right,

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Speaker 11: Hayden doesn't work as a country, I guess doesn't.

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Speaker 5: People have tried it forever.

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Speaker 11: People spent billions of dollars trying to make Haiti work

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Speaker 11: as a project. Haiti doesn't work If you take Haiti

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Speaker 11: and you move it to America, it's not gonna work here.

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Speaker 11: Somalia doesn't work as a country, has never worked as

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Speaker 11: a country. You take Somalia out of Somalia and you

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Speaker 11: put it here, it's not.

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Speaker 12: Gonna work any better.

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Speaker 11: It's not about how you feel about an individual immigrant.

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Speaker 11: It's about the policy at a systemic scale. If you

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Speaker 11: move the third world to the first world, eventually he.

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Speaker 1: Become the third world, and that's not good for us.

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Speaker 1: It's not good for anybody who wants to live here

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Speaker 1: in the future.

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Speaker 13: You know, it could the two thousand dollars dividend could

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Speaker 13: come in lots of forms, in lots of ways, George.

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Speaker 13: You know, it could be just the tax decreases that

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Speaker 13: we are seeing on the president's agenda. You know, no

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Speaker 13: tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on sales,

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Speaker 13: security deductibility of auto loans. So you know those are

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Speaker 13: substantial deductions that you are being financed in the tax bill.

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Speaker 14: I believe in the like the teachings of Christ. I

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Speaker 14: believe you know that he's like. I believe in the

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Speaker 14: Christian principles. You know, love thy neighbor. I believe in

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Speaker 14: the other cheek, which is very important for it have forgiveness,

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Speaker 14: because if you don't have forgiveness, then you have an

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Speaker 14: endless cycle of recribution.

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Speaker 15: I love his example as a family man, as a

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Speaker 15: man of God, as a guy who's honest, who stood

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Speaker 15: up for what was right and what he believed in

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Speaker 15: despite just like an unrelenting opposition. Like that's so powerful

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Speaker 15: and he's such a I've got goosebumps right now, like

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Speaker 15: thinking about it, just because of his example.

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Speaker 5: And there's like so much suppression.

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Speaker 15: You can't say that, you can't think that you can't

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Speaker 15: do this, like this is not cool. He just stood

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Speaker 15: for what was right despite all that, and I just

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Speaker 15: like appreciate that so much.

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Speaker 5: And he's just a great example. And I think that

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Speaker 5: it's so.

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Speaker 15: Sad, Like I just think about like his wife and kids,

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Speaker 15: and you know, obviously I have a wife in case,

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Speaker 15: and it's.

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Speaker 8: Just like he was taking pre soon.

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Speaker 15: But I think that our responsibility now is to like

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Speaker 15: just keep spreading that message in that positivity that he

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Speaker 15: spread and has stand for the truth.

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Speaker 16: So every day is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 16: information coming from every angle, but the will to deceive.

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Speaker 16: I fear not you found the place for truth, the

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Speaker 16: voice of a generation that still has the will to

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Speaker 16: believe in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 16: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot here

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Speaker 16: we go on.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: Happy Monday to you all radio stations across the country.

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Speaker 17: Real America's Voice News Salem News Channel. I'm Andrew Covid,

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Speaker 17: executive producer of This Fine Show, joined by Blake Neff,

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Speaker 17: another producer on This Fine Show, and our That's a secret.

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Speaker 17: I saw you wondering if I was gonna say it.

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Speaker 17: I couldn't help it. Lots of news this morning. We

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Speaker 17: are now at the precipice of ending a one of

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Speaker 17: I guess it's the football, guests, I shut down in

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Speaker 17: American history of our government. And the Dems are in

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Speaker 17: the middle of a crash out. They are the progressive

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Speaker 17: wing at least of the party is freaking out. They

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Speaker 17: think that they're being sold out by Chuck Schumer and

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Speaker 17: the establishment moderate wing. And I think there's actually it's

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Speaker 17: a bit more of a mixed.

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Speaker 1: Bag than that.

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Speaker 17: If we're being honest, we got Mark Wayne Mullen, Senator

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Speaker 17: Mark Wayne Mullen from the Great State of Oklahoma joining

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Speaker 17: us momentarily to discuss the finer points the negotiation, what's

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Speaker 17: going on behind the scenes inside baseball. So we're gonna

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Speaker 17: get to that in probably about halfway through the hour.

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Speaker 17: We're going to go in depth on the shutdown. Where

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Speaker 17: we're at now before the news broke last night, however,

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Speaker 17: about this shutdown potentially coming to an end, and we'll

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Speaker 17: say potentially because the base energy from the Democrat Party

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Speaker 17: is raging against the Angus Kings of the world, and

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Speaker 17: the Tim Kaynes, Dick Durbin actually broke ranks Fetterman not

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Speaker 17: a surprise there, Cortes Mastow, Jackie Rosen from Nevada, both

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Speaker 17: those senators, but the base entergy raging against them. So

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Speaker 17: I think it's a tenuous hold. I'm not gonna like

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Speaker 17: spike any footballs just yet, but it does seem that

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Speaker 17: it's gonna happen. So in the meantime, before that happened,

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Speaker 17: what everybody was talking about, Blake was this fifty year

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Speaker 17: mortgage idea and why that hit very close to home

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Speaker 17: is housing with something Charlie talked a lot about gen

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Speaker 17: Z getting skin in the game. You know, buying into

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Speaker 17: the American dream, not becoming a bunch of raging socialists.

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Speaker 17: And we see home ownership as a very key component

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Speaker 17: of the American dream of getting into the economic ladder.

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Speaker 17: So this fifty year mortgage idea hits. It really was

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Speaker 17: going to be the lead story unless the government shutdown.

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Speaker 17: News broke last night. And why this is key is

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Speaker 17: because it's reeking of debt slavery to a lot of people.

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Speaker 18: Fifty We should set this up, and you know what

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Speaker 18: Trump set about, Well, let's.

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Speaker 1: Set it up. Let's set it up.

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Speaker 17: So basically, just you know, we've been talking about this independently.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been getting into the ether.

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Speaker 17: This gen Z economic moonshot, how do we get to

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Speaker 17: buy into the American Dream? Was one of Charlie's biggest

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Speaker 17: messaging components in the last couple months of his life.

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Speaker 17: And then Blake go ahead and tell us, so Trump,

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Speaker 17: so do we.

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Speaker 18: Have Sorry if we don't have this, because I'm dropping

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Speaker 18: it on the show team right away, but if we

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Speaker 18: have that, because this I think this basically started with

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Speaker 18: Trump just posting this on Truth where it might have

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Speaker 18: been I'm not sure what generated this, but it was

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Speaker 18: great American presidents, and it showed.

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Speaker 1: Thirty year mortgage.

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Speaker 18: President wrote FDR because that I don't know if he

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Speaker 18: invented it, but it was like standardized under a lot

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Speaker 18: of his New Deal programs up there. We have it

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Speaker 18: there and then it has fifty year mortgage President Trump

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Speaker 18: and so. And then that same day on Saturday, this

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Speaker 18: is when it happened, the Admin confirmed the Yeah, the

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Speaker 18: fh FA director Bill Poulty kind of said we're working

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Speaker 18: on this and other big changes to mortgages, and yeah,

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Speaker 18: it created a lot of reaction because the thirty year

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Speaker 18: mortgage as it currently is is you pay well, You

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Speaker 18: pay for your house for thirty years. So let's say

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Speaker 18: you bought it when you were twenty five or thirty,

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Speaker 18: you're probably fully paying it off around the time that

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Speaker 18: you're reaching your late middle age or early retirement period.

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Speaker 18: Fifty year mortgage, as you said, it makes you raise

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Speaker 18: an eyebrow a bit, because, like, let's say you're a

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Speaker 18: thirty five year old, you know, kind of millennial, and

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Speaker 18: you don't own a house yet. You maybe finally got married,

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Speaker 18: you finally had a kid, you want to buy a home.

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Speaker 18: A fifty year mortgage that goes from you are paying

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Speaker 18: likely not pay this off before you die.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, if you do the math here, So a

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Speaker 17: medium home price in America is five hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 17: I'm gonna use I'm gonna use round terms. It's just

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Speaker 17: to say it's approximately five hundred thousand dollars if you

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Speaker 17: at the prevailing interest rates about six percent right now,

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Speaker 17: if you have a five hundred thousand dollars home and

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Speaker 17: a thirty year mortgage, you're gonna pay about a half

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Speaker 17: million dollars more in interest over those thirty years. So

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Speaker 17: a five hundred thousand dollars home is actually a million

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Speaker 17: dollar home if you add twenty years to the mortgage,

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Speaker 17: so it becomes a fifth year triples it. Correct Well,

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Speaker 17: a five hundred thousand dollars home then will cost you

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Speaker 17: more than one point five million over the price over

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Speaker 8: Of it doubles I should say, doubles the interest.

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Speaker 17: So even though it's twenty more years, it's it doubles it. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: So the interest the way that they've calculate interest, Yeah,

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Speaker 17: it more than doubles it. So you're you're essentially tripling

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Speaker 17: opposed to paying cash.

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Speaker 18: Now, I should caveat that it is over twenty years,

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Speaker 18: which if you have an interest spike, which we've had

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Speaker 18: a big interest spike the last five years, that can

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Speaker 18: if you're in at like a lower interest rate, that

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Speaker 18: can radically reduce the effective amount that you are paying.

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Speaker 18: So it's double the amount of interest, but you can

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Speaker 18: kind of bake in that there will be continued inflation

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Speaker 18: in the US currency over that time space.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so here's my basic point, and I want to

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Speaker 17: put this up. This is from Bill Poulty. You mentioned

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Speaker 17: it before image ninety two. I think the admin got

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Speaker 17: the message pretty quickly that this was not the type

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Speaker 17: of solution that we were looking looking for. Now, my

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Speaker 17: glass is a little half full on this, and I'll

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Speaker 17: explain you just a second, he says, We hear you.

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Speaker 17: We are laser focused on ensuring the American dream for

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Speaker 17: young people, all caps, and that can only happen on

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Speaker 17: the economic level of home buying. A fifty year mortgage

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Speaker 17: is simply a potential weapon and a wide arsenal of

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Speaker 17: solutions that we're developing right away.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 19: If you have a generation that debt does that does

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Speaker 18: One more clip and then we'll go to ads andwascar

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Speaker 19: First time since George Washington that this generation has it

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Speaker 1: And yet we're the.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, this is people in the audience. This is the

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Speaker 17: We're gonna read some of your emails, continuing this discussion

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Speaker 17: Welcome back radio stations across the country to the Charlie

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Speaker 17: Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvett. This is Blake Neff joining

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Speaker 17: we're gonna dive into the particulars of the government shutdown

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Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, so emails at Freedom at Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 18: I'd like to see different generational takes on this, if possible.

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Speaker 17: The one that talked about how whoever that caller was

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Speaker 17: or emailer that said you usually end up rolling over

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Speaker 17: or you refinance, you sell the home.

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Speaker 1: That is the argument in favor of this.

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Speaker 17: Right, So the argument in favor is that at least

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Speaker 17: you're getting owners So it does address part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: I do not think it should be the end all

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Speaker 17: This is not a silver bullet, but it does address

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Speaker 17: part of the problem because if you are a thirty

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Speaker 17: You probably are going to end up trading up or

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Speaker 17: equity as the asset appreciates, and then you would use

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Speaker 17: that to leverage other home purchases in the future.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 17: Okay, So I agree with that, and I think it's important.

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Speaker 17: But what we need to also be doing, and this

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Speaker 17: is why I highlighted the Bill Polti tweet, is that

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Speaker 17: you know what, and this is what Charlie advocated for

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Speaker 17: is we need we have a supplying demand problem issue

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Speaker 17: more homes. We need to build a lot of them,

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Speaker 17: and we need to make that easier for first time

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Speaker 17: home buyers to be prioritized. No foreign buyers, no institutional money,

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Speaker 17: no you know, blackstones or private equity groups buying up

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Speaker 1: And so that's that's key.

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Speaker 17: But also I think we should get creative about Hey,

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Speaker 17: do young people under the age of thirty five do

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Speaker 17: they get to write off fifty thousand dollars? Do they

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Speaker 17: get to write off their entire mortgage altogether? These are questions.

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Speaker 17: Should we go through.

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Speaker 1: The break and reach our emails? I think we should.

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Speaker 1: They should.

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Speaker 17: All right, we're gonna read your emails and the break,

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Speaker 17: So if you're watching on streaming or if you're on podcasts,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back and to take a quick break.

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Speaker 20: back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 20: A group of Senate Democrats split with Senate Minority Leader

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Speaker 20: in voting to move forward with the temporary with temporarily

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Speaker 20: excuse me reopening the federal government. The move comes after

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Speaker 20: Senate Majority leader John Thune told his colleagues they would

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Speaker 20: stay in session until the government reopens. At the moment,

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Speaker 20: the longest government shut down in US history continues, but

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Speaker 20: this deal would fund the government for several weeks and

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Speaker 20: guarantee a December vote on extending expiring Affordable Care Act

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Speaker 20: tax credits, which is what Democrats have been holding out for.

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Speaker 20: Under the proposal, federal workers would also receive backpay, plus

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Speaker 20: mass firings of federal workers during the shutdown would be reversed.

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Speaker 20: Seven Democrats and an independent voted with Republicans on Sunday,

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Speaker 20: the US House have been put on notice prepared to

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Speaker 20: also chiming in, saying, quote, it looks like we're getting

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Speaker 20: close to the shutdown ending. That's a quick check of

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Speaker 20: your headlines.

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Speaker 1: This movement will not be silenced.

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Speaker 16: You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm

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Speaker 17: Andrew Colvit, Executive producer of this fine show along with

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Speaker 17: Blake Neff and we have We are joined by Senator

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Speaker 17: Mark Wayne Mullen, Senator from the great state of Oklahoma. Senator,

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Speaker 17: welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 7: Thanks brother, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, absolutely, we're thank you for making the time. I

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Speaker 17: know you guys are in the middle of it in

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Speaker 17: the Senate. The negotiations are ongoing. We had that big

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Speaker 17: test vote to see if we could get to sixty

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Speaker 17: and get to kloture. Where are we at now? Jackie

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Speaker 17: Rosen was that sixtieth vote? Well, Cornyn ended up being

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Speaker 17: the sixtieth vote.

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Speaker 1: After a little bit of a flight, the lamb told

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Speaker 1: where are we at now?

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Speaker 7: Senator, So let me explain the process.

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Speaker 21: Last night We've had a motion to proceed to get

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Speaker 21: on the bill, which can vote thirty hours of debate.

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Speaker 21: Once we finished at thirty hours, which, by the way,

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Speaker 21: the House can or the Democrats can give back that

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Speaker 21: time anytime they want to. Once they give back the

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Speaker 21: time or the clock expires, we have to have a

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Speaker 21: motion to amend the House cr because we're changing the

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Speaker 21: date from November twenty first to January thirtieth, and then

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Speaker 21: we're taking out three CR bills because we see our

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Speaker 21: all twelve CR Continued resolution on all twelve bills, we're

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Speaker 21: replacing them with three of Trump Priority bills, which is

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Speaker 21: milkon military ag and ledge. And so we're going to

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Speaker 21: see our three bills, put in three funding bills for

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Speaker 21: President Trump. And then once we do the amendment, we

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Speaker 21: have another thirty hour debate, which could.

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Speaker 7: Technically take us into Wednesday.

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Speaker 21: I think they will yield back all their time and

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Speaker 21: we'll wrap it up tonight. The House will have to

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Speaker 21: come back and vote on it probably sometime on Wednesday,

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Speaker 21: and we'll reopen the government.

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Speaker 17: So break down the basics of the deal, Senator, So,

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Speaker 17: I know rifts were involved. I know a guarantee vote

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Speaker 17: on the ACA subsidies. Who's getting what in this change

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Speaker 17: in this world?

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Speaker 21: Well, there really wasn't a deal that we struck. What

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Speaker 21: we offered them which is affordable healthcare, which is unaffordable.

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Speaker 21: We can break that down anytime we want to, Andrew.

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Speaker 21: But what we offer we offered them a guaranteed vote,

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Speaker 21: not an outcome just to vote. Back in October sixteenth,

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Speaker 21: so we could have opened the government weeks ago. The

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Speaker 21: riff was really the White House. We didn't offer that.

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Speaker 7: What the riff? What happened with the riff?

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Speaker 21: Which these are all the employees that were fired since

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Speaker 21: October first, so basically since the shutdown. The President Trump

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Speaker 21: people back on payroll, but only until January thirtieth. So

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Speaker 21: that doesn't mean they can't be refiredes are going to

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Speaker 21: get their back pay and then make it through the

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Speaker 21: holidays and then there and then they can still be

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Speaker 21: which will probably be what happens.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, I was gonna say, so what so they

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Speaker 17: what happens at January thirtieth? Is it a automatic go

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Speaker 17: back to what rest vote and others accomplished with these risks,

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Speaker 17: which are reductions in force. Just in case the audience

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Speaker 17: of the federal bureaucracy. So what happens on January thirtieth.

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Speaker 21: Well, January thirtieth, we could find ourselves right back in

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Speaker 21: the same boat. We are right now. But what we're

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Speaker 21: trying to do is do four more appropriation bills, so

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Speaker 21: that'll put us to seven total appropriation bills. Remember, because

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Speaker 21: do four more appropriation bills. That'll give us a total

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Speaker 21: And then we'll probably go ahead and see our continued

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Speaker 21: we can get it past the midterm so the Democrats

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Speaker 17: Okay, so it looks like we're going to have probably

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Speaker 17: I think we're trying to cut it right now. Hakeem

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Speaker 17: Jefferies is vowing to keep the fight going in the House.

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Speaker 17: I'm not sure what his options are there now.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly how he doesn't have the votes.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I mean we could play the clip here,

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Speaker 17: it's loaded. Okay, we'll play it. I haven't seen it yet,

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Speaker 17: Senator Whip, we'll play it.

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Speaker 1: Ninety nine.

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Speaker 22: So, as House Democrats, we know away on the right

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Speaker 22: side of this fight, the right side of the American people, and.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to support.

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Speaker 22: Partisan Republicans spending bill that continues to gut the healthcare of.

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Speaker 5: The American people.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to.

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Speaker 22: Continue the fight to extend the Affordable Care.

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Speaker 5: Act tax credits.

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Speaker 22: And if it doesn't happen this week, next week, this month,

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Speaker 22: next month, then it's the fault of Donald Trump. House

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Speaker 17: All right, So I have I have like a thousand

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Speaker 17: I have a thousand issues.

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Speaker 7: There's back there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so, Senator you're the guests, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 21: Let's first of all, he called it affordable healthcare, affordable

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Speaker 21: healthcare is absolutely a joke. President Obama, I promised that

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Speaker 21: healthcare premiums are going to go down twenty five percent.

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Speaker 7: They're up two hundred and twenty one percent.

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Speaker 21: All the premium tax credit did was trying to extend

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Speaker 21: the Democrats voted unanimously. Not one single Republican voted for

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Speaker 21: this in twenty one. Democrats did it completely by themselves

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Speaker 21: because Nancy Pelosi was Speaker, Chuck Schumer was Leader and

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Speaker 7: And Biden was in the White House.

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Speaker 21: They purposely made it expire in four years so they

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Speaker 21: them to say that Republicans own the high costs of

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Speaker 21: affordable health care, it's completely unaffordable. They know it's a mess.

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Speaker 21: It's a complete talking point. He wants to talk about.

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Speaker 21: They're not going to support these funding bills. Well, what

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Speaker 21: have federal employees federal contractors that work there too, and

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Speaker 21: not just mention the men and women that are serving

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Speaker 21: the great nation.

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Speaker 7: He's not going to ba to hold his team together.

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Speaker 21: But really, what's happening here is that King Jeffries wants

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Speaker 21: to run for president in twenty twenty eight, and the

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Speaker 21: guy is it knows that he has an opportunity here.

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Speaker 7: So his base demands him to do this. But the

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Speaker 21: Why he went out and endorsed a communist madamie as

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Speaker 21: New York mayor. It's it's absurd when you hear how

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Speaker 21: weak the leadership is. What's so weak about this is

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Speaker 21: Chuck Schumer is the weakest leader we got period, and

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Speaker 21: his base, his party broke from him. A Kim Jefferys

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Speaker 21: party is going to break from him too, and that's

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Speaker 21: just going to show you how big of a mess

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Speaker 21: this Democrat Party is.

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Speaker 17: Well, so let's get into I'm gonna play two clips,

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Speaker 17: the really short ones here.

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Speaker 1: Senator.

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Speaker 17: Let's let's let's so, so you talked about Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 17: being weak.

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Speaker 1: I think you were absolutely spot on the left.

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Speaker 17: The progressive wing of the party is com raging against Schumer,

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Speaker 17: even though Schumer was a no on reaching Kloture. He's

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Speaker 17: the left is blaming him for failing to control his people.

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Speaker 1: In the Senate, his caucus eighty seven.

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Speaker 20: I think Chuck Schumer his days are over and.

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Speaker 16: He cannot put and he cannot keep talking together.

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Speaker 2: If he cannot keep this clocket together, he.

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Speaker 5: Needs to go.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 17: So the view is now, hey, Chuck Schumer's out, we

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Speaker 17: want AOC or whatever the heck they're going to say next.

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Speaker 17: But then listen to Morning Joe here, Senator. He's basically

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Speaker 17: saying like this was a success. Actually, even though you

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Speaker 17: know this thing is about to go and we're about

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Speaker 17: to reopen the government without getting all the things we

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Speaker 17: want on the ACA subsidies, but it was success because

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Speaker 17: guess what nobody's talking about crime anymore.

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Speaker 1: Play cut eighty six.

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Speaker 10: The Democrats is they took crime off the front page

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Speaker 10: of every newspaper, that was the story, and they turned

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Speaker 10: it into healthcare.

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Speaker 17: So you get these two competing visions of what our

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Speaker 17: opinions of what has just taken place with this this

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Speaker 17: the record longest government shut down in our history. And

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Speaker 17: so it was this all a game of optics because

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Speaker 17: at the end of the day, nobody was going to

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Speaker 17: have the votes if you're the Democrats. They were weren't

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Speaker 17: going to have the votes to win this. This game

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Speaker 17: of chicken. It was a political game of chicken, all

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Speaker 17: for optics, all for nothing. They knew they weren't going

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Speaker 17: to get the ACA subsidies. So what's what's the takeaway here?

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Speaker 19: What?

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Speaker 1: What did we just put the country through? And for what?

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Speaker 21: It was all about politics for them. We Republicans were

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Speaker 21: trying to use policy. We're trying to have sound policy

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Speaker 21: moving forward. Politics was all the Democrats were doing here.

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Speaker 21: This was never about the one point four trillion dollars

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Speaker 21: to for our legals, if you remember that conversation went

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Speaker 21: away weeks ago. What this was is about making sure

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Speaker 21: their base was gender up for the No King rally.

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Speaker 21: They were planning on reopening the government. When they realized

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Speaker 21: they couldn't reopen the government because they knew of November

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Speaker 21: elections were coming, they quote, they said this to me,

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Speaker 21: because I was part of the negotiations. We can't reopen.

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Speaker 21: Schumer said that he'll release the handcuffs. That is a quote,

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Speaker 21: release the handcuffs once the Tuesday election is over, because

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Speaker 21: they're afraid their base wouldn't show up to vote if

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Speaker 21: they did it before that there was thirty Democrats that

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Speaker 21: agreed to vote to reopen the government. Now, what's really

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Speaker 21: interesting what the view said there is the view said

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Speaker 21: that Chuck Schumer's days are numbered. Well, he's not up

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Speaker 21: for re election in twenty eight I think because Madamie,

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Speaker 21: remember he's not a natural born citizen. He was just

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Speaker 21: if he just became a citizen in twenty eighteen. I

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Speaker 21: think they run him against Chuck Schumer. He doesn't stay

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Speaker 21: in New York four years. He runs for Chuck Schumer's

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Speaker 21: seat and wins in twenty eight In twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 21: and AOC is trying to get on the presidential ticket

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Speaker 21: as either as a VP or as a presidential nominee.

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Speaker 21: Moving forward, talking about Joe, here's how ridiculous Joe is.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: Joe is not wanting to actually talk about facts.

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Speaker 21: He didn't say crime was down, he said they took

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Speaker 21: it off the front page.

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Speaker 7: So he's playing politics too.

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Speaker 21: Here's a reporter that's supposed to be reporting the facts,

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Speaker 21: and he's praising the Democrats for using this gimmick by

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Speaker 21: holding the American people hostage or as the leverage points

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Speaker 21: for over forty days, crashing our economy. Our GDP was

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Speaker 21: at four percent, it's down to one percent. We have

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Speaker 21: more flight cancelations today than we ever had in the

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Speaker 21: history of the United States, with the exception of nine

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Speaker 21: to eleven. And he's praising it as a success because

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Speaker 21: they took crime off the front page.

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Speaker 7: This is absurd.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that's a really I mean, nothing boils this down

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Speaker 17: or distills the essence of what just happened more than that.

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Speaker 17: It's it is all for optics. It doesn't matter, like

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Speaker 17: you said, the crime is actually down. It just matters

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Speaker 17: what what are people talking about. It's all about political

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Speaker 17: leverage and optics. And I actually tweeted this out this

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Speaker 17: morning that that there is no moral high ground here.

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Speaker 17: The tell is in the reaction to what just took place.

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Speaker 17: They didn't get their ACA subsidies. They knew they were

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Speaker 17: never going to. We have the votes, they don't. So

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Speaker 17: as long as we keep our caucus together, you know,

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Speaker 17: there was never going to be a situation where we

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Speaker 17: sort of bent the knee and you're like, oh, sure,

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Speaker 17: let's let's spend another one point five trillion dollars that

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Speaker 17: we don't have. Yeah, of course there's gonna be some

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Speaker 17: illegals and some people that Joe Biden let in that

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Speaker 17: should not be getting that taxpayer money.

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Speaker 1: We all know that's the case. You proved it last

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Speaker 1: time you were on the show.

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Speaker 17: And so it's really infuriating to see that these folks

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Speaker 17: basically held the country hostage for forty days when they

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Speaker 17: knew they weren't going to get anything, because they simply

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Speaker 17: thought they were getting political momentum and leverage out of it.

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Speaker 1: Senator final word fifteen seconds.

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Speaker 21: Well, you just summed it up. You summed up everything.

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Speaker 21: And fortunately every one of the Republicans stayed strong because

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Speaker 21: they had a strong leadership in President Trump, with exception Rampaul.

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Speaker 21: Don't I can't ram Paul's ram Paul. But other than that,

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Speaker 21: the American people saw that Republican parties were standing strong

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Speaker 21: behind President Trump because he had a clear vision, with

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Speaker 21: the clear leadership mentality.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Thank you, Senator. We'll have you back

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Speaker 1: on again soon. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 16: That's the guts to say the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Looks

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Speaker 17: like Senator Schumer is speaking from the House floor. He

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Speaker 17: looks defeated, I think it's fair to say. I feel

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Speaker 17: like he should always look defeated. Man, he's got a look,

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Speaker 17: doesn't he. He's got a real look. He's a real,

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Speaker 17: real looker. I mean he almost looks like a cartoon

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Speaker 17: character for real. Let's go ahead and play cut one hundred.

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump cannot take forty two million hungry, hungry people

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Speaker 12: as hostages. He cannot withhold the benefits they need for

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Speaker 12: food for their families. Even now, Donald Trump isn't satisfied today,

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Speaker 12: even more cruel, he appealed to the Supreme Court yet

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Speaker 12: again to try and get out of pain full snap benefits.

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Speaker 12: The President's done a lot of cruel, nasty, mean things

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Speaker 12: over the years.

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Speaker 17: So he's looking very depressed, soulen the from the set

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Speaker 17: of Floor. I mean, that guy, he voted no on it,

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Speaker 17: and they are they don't care because he's the one

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Speaker 17: who couldn't keep a spy.

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Speaker 18: I'm really the whole vibe worries me because in the end,

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Speaker 18: I think we should acknowledge it is not good for

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Speaker 18: the country to just have a government shut down. Even

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Speaker 18: if you think, oh, the government's so bad, I like

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Speaker 18: it being shut down. That itself is a giant you know,

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Speaker 18: flashing red warning like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be like a big alert.

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Speaker 18: And I'm worried that the Democrats and you know, potentially

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Speaker 18: Republicans too, are reaching this idea where they just regard

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Speaker 18: it as politically good to have the government shut down

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Speaker 18: whenever they're not in charge of it.

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Speaker 17: Well, and that's what's so cynical about this whole thing

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Speaker 17: is that you have you have eight people that caucus

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Speaker 17: with the Senators, that caucus with the Democrats that finally

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Speaker 17: broke ranked. And you've got Tim Kaine saying, listen, I

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Speaker 17: got all these government workers that aren't getting paid in

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Speaker 17: my home state. I got basically a million people in

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Speaker 17: to worry about that. Angus King is coming out and

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Speaker 17: saying there's no endgame. We're about to see all the

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Speaker 17: flights shut down. Like, what's the endgame here? We don't

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Speaker 17: have the votes, so we got to try a different strategies.

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Speaker 17: So you finally had eight people that came to their

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Speaker 17: senses after they used it as political leverage to help them,

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Speaker 17: you know, gin up support in these off your elections.

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Speaker 17: We're gonna welcome back radio in about five seconds. We'll

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Speaker 17: be right back, all right, welcome back National Radio, Real

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Speaker 17: America's voice, all the all the folks streaming.

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Speaker 1: So we got into.

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Speaker 18: Tons dozens of emails at Freedom at Charlie Kirk, just

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Speaker 18: different thoughts on the mortgage question, a good amount of

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Speaker 18: enthusiasm for it, I've got to say, across the spectrum.

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Speaker 18: Surprised me a little bit. But I want to read

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Speaker 18: some of those. So, for example, we have Shelley. Shelley says,

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Speaker 18: I am a millennial. I went to a good high school,

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Speaker 18: the same school as boys.

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Speaker 8: Two men.

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Speaker 18: I have not seen that. But I grew up in

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Speaker 18: the city to a single mom. I didn't know what

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Speaker 18: I was in for at eighteen, and I wound up

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Speaker 18: going to community college. Then nine to eleven happened. That happened,

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Speaker 18: and my testimony beyond that, Okay, I could write a

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Speaker 18: book one day. I remember the first time home buyer

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Speaker 18: craze under Obama, and I remember the mass foreclosures. I

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Speaker 18: remember homes going from fifty thousand to three hundred and

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Speaker 18: fifty thousand. I am now looking forward to buying a

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Speaker 18: home and living with my eighty five year old mother,

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Speaker 18: rebuilding my credit and saving it by my first home.

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Speaker 18: Now that my youngest is eight and my oldest will

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Speaker 18: be twenty, a fifty year mortgage would help me. My

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Speaker 18: first home will be in my children's names. It will

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Speaker 18: be a family home that will be available to them

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Speaker 18: as they need it, and they can sell it when

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Speaker 18: they agree.

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Speaker 8: The work I do at forty four is for them.

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Speaker 8: Love you guys, Shelley.

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Speaker 18: It's a very interesting one, and I like that mentality.

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Speaker 18: Charlie would love that mentality of what you are doing

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Speaker 18: is so you can bequeath it to your children and

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Speaker 18: your descendants from there. I do worry that is a

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Speaker 18: mentality yacht enough people in America have, so they would

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Speaker 18: think like, oh, I'm I only buy a home for

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Speaker 18: my children to one day own up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually an interesting question.

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Speaker 17: I'd love to ask the audience because I can't tell

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Speaker 17: you how many people I have heard from that make

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Speaker 17: the joke I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to spend all my inheritance before I die. You know,

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Speaker 1: the kids, you know.

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Speaker 17: But no, but it's like a common boomerism. It's bad,

882
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Speaker 17: but it's no boomers. I've heard exers. I've heard people

883
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Speaker 17: say I'm just going to spend it all.

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Speaker 8: It's the it's the can't take it with you use

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Speaker 8: it well to use a slightly thing.

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Speaker 16: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's the f you've got mine mentality a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And it also is kind of like a funny joke.

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Speaker 17: I'd love to hear from the boomers in the audience

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Speaker 17: if like, if you guys kind of understand that, or

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Speaker 17: if you disagree that.

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Speaker 1: I think, so here's a boom.

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Speaker 18: Oh go ahead, Well, I think I think what I

894
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Speaker 18: would critique with the sort of you know that attitude

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Speaker 18: is it's sort of this attitude of wealth as just

896
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 18: like a consumption good and you know, oh well I

897
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Speaker 18: can use it. I worked for it, so I can

898
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Speaker 18: use it to buy cruises or whatever.

899
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Speaker 8: But really, like what wealth above everything else?

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Speaker 18: It's security and it's time like you can buy the

901
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Speaker 18: ability to save time on things, and to not care

902
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Speaker 18: about bequeathing that to your descendants to make their lives

903
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Speaker 18: like not as difficult as yours is very misguided in

904
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Speaker 18: my opinion. It's not that you have to leave them everything,

905
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Speaker 18: it's not that they own what you worked for. But

906
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Speaker 18: it's a mentality I have a hard time with. And

907
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Speaker 18: I want to flag this one quick where just real

908
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Speaker 18: quick RC says, I am a longtime loan officer, and

909
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Speaker 18: you guys no offense, are a little green, a little naive,

910
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 18: And our C says, I never sold refinances.

911
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Speaker 8: They say that the reason it's a pretty long one.

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Speaker 18: They said they would just recommend on a fifty year

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Speaker 18: mortgage that people save excess money and they make early

914
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Speaker 18: payments on their mortgage, which you can do under a

915
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Speaker 18: lot of loan agreements. And if you're making our C says,

916
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Speaker 18: if you're making two and a half extra payments a year,

917
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Speaker 18: so kind of two and a half worth of monthly

918
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Speaker 18: payments a year, you can shave a thirty year mortgage

919
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Speaker 18: down to eleven years, which sounds wild to me. And

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Speaker 18: so I imagine that could have an even bigger fen on

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Speaker 18: a fifty year That would be interesting. But I would

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Speaker 18: also know the reason we have these fifty year proposals

923
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Speaker 18: is people can't afford the thirty year mortgage and so, yeah,

924
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Speaker 18: how much are they gonna be able to save on

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Speaker 18: a fifty year We.

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Speaker 17: Got a Mike from Ohio says he's a boomer night,

927
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Speaker 17: he's born in nineteen forty six. He's a veteran father

928
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Speaker 17: of eight god grandfather. Does any great yeah, great grandfather

929
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Speaker 17: to three great grandchildren. This is fantastic, he says. He

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Speaker 17: listens to raft to four to six hours a day,

931
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Speaker 17: and he loved Charlie, so he says, here's my suggestion

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Speaker 17: to young people. Seek first the Kingdom, get married in

933
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Speaker 17: your twenties, have a big family, tithe her income first.

934
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Speaker 17: Then live within your means with what's left over. If

935
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Speaker 17: you are able to buy a home, that's swell. If not,

936
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Speaker 17: trust in God's word to take care of you and

937
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Speaker 17: your family. Raise your children and the Lord so they

938
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Speaker 17: can have a good foundation to change the world for

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Speaker 17: good when they become adults. Tell them to follow Jesus

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Speaker 17: no matter what circumstances they may find themselves.

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Speaker 1: Christ will take it.

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Speaker 17: From there and he will raise up a world of

943
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Speaker 17: Charlie's That that is.

944
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Speaker 1: What Charlie would.

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Speaker 18: He would talk about this too, like if you do

946
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Speaker 18: follow Sometimes with Rob Henderson, he called it the success sequence.

947
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Speaker 18: You know, get married, don't have kids until you're married, Uh,

948
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Speaker 18: you know, finish high school. And I can't remember what's

949
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Speaker 18: the third part of the success sequence. But basically, if

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Speaker 18: if you follow good practices, in the end, we face

951
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Speaker 18: a tough world.

952
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Speaker 1: It is a tough reality.

953
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Speaker 8: Yet at the.

954
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Speaker 18: Same time, if you follow the very good basic moral principles,

955
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Speaker 18: you will likely be able to save money and eventually

956
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Speaker 18: even afford these inflated home prices that we have to.

957
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Speaker 8: Or if you can't, you'll be able to afford renting.

958
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Speaker 17: You live within your means. Is a is a tried

959
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 17: and true old school approach. That's and it's and it's not.

960
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Speaker 17: It's basics great, we want homes to be cheaper.

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Speaker 18: We're fighting for that, but you have to recognize sometimes

962
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Speaker 18: the world is not as accommodating as we'd like.

963
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Speaker 8: You have to work for that.

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Speaker 1: Ryan James Gerdeski and Julie Kelly an hour too. Don't

965
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Speaker 1: go anywhere. We will be right back.

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Speaker 20: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 20: Terrence Bates. Americans are facing enormous financial pressures right now.

968
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Speaker 20: Credit card debt in this country is surged past one

969
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Speaker 20: trillion dollars in interest rates, while unfortunately they're some of

970
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Speaker 20: the highest that we've ever seen. Families who work really hard,

971
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Speaker 20: pay taxes, do everything right, are feeling themselves drowning in

972
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Speaker 20: monthly payments that they just can't seem to escape. The

973
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Speaker 20: good news is there's hope and there's help available. Joining

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Speaker 20: me right now to talk more about real solutions is

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Speaker 20: Melanie Peacoor. She is a consumer finance advocate with Iconic

976
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Speaker 20: Debt Relief. Melanie, good to see you.

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Speaker 23: Yes, thank you so much for having me, Terrence.

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Speaker 5: So we talked about credit card debt.

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Speaker 20: Right now, the average APR is between twenty one and

980
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Speaker 20: twenty four percent. A lot of people are paying even

981
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Speaker 20: higher rates than that. The big question though, is are

982
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Speaker 20: the Fed's recent interest rate cuts enough to help people

983
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Speaker 20: begin to regain control of their financial situation.

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Speaker 23: You know what we're seeing right now, Terrence is truly no,

985
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Speaker 23: it's not.

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Speaker 9: You know, the federal interest rate or the Federal Reserve

987
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Speaker 9: has lowered the interest rates, but they're not really passing

988
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Speaker 9: those onto consumers, right They haven't lowered interest rates right now,

989
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 9: Like you said, it's anywhere from twenty one to twenty

990
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 9: four percent on average, oftentimes even higher. So because of that,

991
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Speaker 9: and then we've got inflation, We've got groceries, hire, housing, higher, childcare, hire,

992
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Speaker 9: everything is just higher. So we're just seeing so many

993
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Speaker 9: hardworking families just rely on their credit cards so heavily

994
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Speaker 9: for even just the basics. So I would say the

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Speaker 9: answer to that is no, we're not seeing a relief yet.

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Speaker 20: Right now, and that's where kind of get relief can

997
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 20: come in. Tell us a little bit about the company

998
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 20: and the sorts of service as it offers.

999
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 23: That's a very great question.

1000
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 9: It kind of truly helps consumers understand your options. We

1001
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 9: will enroll you if it fits with legitimate structured debt

1002
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 9: relief programs that really aim to lower your monthly payments,

1003
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 9: because that's where we need the break, right. We can

1004
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 9: work as hard as possible, but things just continue to

1005
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 9: pile up and really help stop that constant feeling of

1006
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Speaker 9: financial pressure.

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Speaker 23: We are not a bank, we are not a collection agency.

1008
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Speaker 9: We are truly advocates for you as the consumer to

1009
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 9: again help you stop the bleeding.

1010
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 23: In essence, we'll walk you through.

1011
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 9: The process, simple terms, will educate you throughout the different

1012
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 9: relief programs that make sense for your family and help

1013
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 9: you along that journey.

1014
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Speaker 20: There are probably some of our viewers who are hearing

1015
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 20: this and saying, yeah, I've heard this song and dance before,

1016
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 20: specifically because there are so many debt related companies out there,

1017
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Speaker 20: But what makes Iconic different?

1018
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 23: Great question, again, as usual.

1019
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 9: Yes, there are definitely a lot out there, and I

1020
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 9: can understand that concern, but I would say there's a

1021
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 9: few different things that will set us apart.

1022
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Speaker 23: So number one is going to be transparency.

1023
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Speaker 9: We will absolutely explain everything very clearly from the get go.

1024
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Speaker 9: I would say number two is no pressure, zero pressure whatsoever.

1025
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Speaker 23: You as the consumer is in control.

1026
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Speaker 9: The biggest thing is is we are here to educate you,

1027
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 9: make sure you understand your options, see the light at

1028
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 9: the end of the tunnel should there be, and not

1029
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 9: pressure you, okay.

1030
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 23: And of course human connection.

1031
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 9: We treat every single person like a human being, like family,

1032
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 9: with empathy, no judgment. You're not a number, You are

1033
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 9: a human being with a real story, and that is

1034
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 9: so important to us.

1035
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Speaker 23: And then of course number four is long term support.

1036
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Speaker 9: We don't disappear when we enroll you into the right program.

1037
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Speaker 23: We are here with you throughout the entire journey.

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Speaker 20: So how does one start that job? Every journey starts

1039
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 20: with one step, So what's the first step?

1040
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Speaker 9: First and foremost, do not feel ashamed put that aside.

1041
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 9: The economy has made this hard for so many millions

1042
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 9: and millions of responsible families.

1043
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Speaker 23: And second thing would be don't wait at all.

1044
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 9: Every single day that you wait, every single month that

1045
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 9: you weigh, your interest is piling on top of more interests.

1046
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 9: You're throwing money out the window towards that interest, not

1047
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 9: towards your dot, especially with the interest rates as they

1048
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 9: are today. Reach out, give us a call. It's a

1049
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 9: phone call that could essentially change your future.

1050
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 20: All right, And all that information is there at the

1051
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 20: bottom of your screen, ladies and gentlemen. You see the

1052
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 20: number to call. Also the website where you can go

1053
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 20: log on. Plus, there's that QR code that you can

1054
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 20: scan right now to get more information and at least

1055
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 20: to take that first step towards your journey of financial freedom. Again,

1056
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 20: all the information there at the bottom of your screen, Well,

1057
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Speaker 20: that's going to do it for us here on Real

1058
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Speaker 20: America's Voice. We appreciate you being here with us. We're

1059
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 20: going to take a quick break and then get you

1060
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Speaker 20: back to your regularly scheduled programming.

1061
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Speaker 17: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm

1062
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 17: Andrew Colevid, executive producer of this show. Our two is

1063
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Speaker 17: kicking off now. We have a great guest for this.

1064
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Speaker 17: It's gonna help make sense of the insanity of shutdowns

1065
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 17: and so much more. And that is Ryan James Gerdusky.

1066
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Speaker 17: He's the host of a numbers game podcast and he

1067
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Speaker 17: is also in charge of seventeen seventy six Project Pack.

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Speaker 1: Ryan James Gerdski, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me on.

1070
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Speaker 1: Andrew, Yeah, great to see you. We also have Blake

1071
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Speaker 1: Nef here.

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Speaker 17: I want to open this up to a larger conversation,

1073
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 17: but let's start with this shutdown fight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is okay.

1075
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Speaker 17: So there was a vote last night and then all

1076
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Speaker 17: hell breaks loose in the Democrat caucus. They're freaking out

1077
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 17: because they feel like they had all this momentum in

1078
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 17: New Jersey, Virginia, and I want to get into New Jersey.

1079
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Speaker 17: You have a contrarian take on New Jersey that I

1080
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 17: want the audience to hear about. But so they think

1081
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 17: they've got the momentum, So why concede any points?

1082
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: Why give in? Why open the government back up?

1083
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 17: Which just strikes me as highly highly cynical on a

1084
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 17: thousand different levels.

1085
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Speaker 1: What are you making of this? Makes sense of it

1086
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: for our audience? Please? Well?

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00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 24: I think in part they didn't want to do this

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Speaker 24: before the elections, right, I think that they wanted to

1089
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 24: keep the government shut down before the elections. I think

1090
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Speaker 24: that it helped juice their voter base for sure. Then

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Speaker 24: I think that also when it comes to why did

1092
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 24: they go along with this shutdown? Is because people are

1093
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 24: really suffering. I mean it is, I mean the fights

1094
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 24: were being canceled. People do need people who are on

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Speaker 24: food stamps do need food stamps. There were actual and

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Speaker 24: those are their constituents, so they voter base. So why

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Speaker 24: wouldn't they do something for their voter base? And I

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Speaker 24: think they got the vote on healthcare they're going to

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Speaker 24: get who knows how it's going to go.

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Speaker 5: It's a promisory vote.

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Speaker 24: But then they have to refund the government again in January,

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Speaker 24: so it's not like it's like a you know, they

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Speaker 24: lost the fight for a million years.

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Speaker 5: They get the fight again in two months. And I

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Speaker 5: think that they'll get the healthcare vote, then they'll have

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Speaker 5: the conversation.

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Speaker 24: But ultimately a large portion of the Senate Democrats are centrists.

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Speaker 5: I guess this other insight, they're not. They're not.

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Speaker 24: They're not part of the far left, which is why

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Speaker 24: you see the far left on social media crying all

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Speaker 24: day today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I mean it strikes me though, is that there was

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Speaker 17: essentially a a calculation by a lot of these far

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Speaker 17: left members of the caucus, even in the media, and

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Speaker 17: you see this Sunny Houstin is basically saying, Hey, we

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Speaker 17: want Schumer out. He's at we want to we want

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Speaker 17: to play Schumer, so you're you're essentially it feels almost

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Speaker 17: like they're snatching defeat from the jaws of victory here

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Speaker 17: because they were winning messaging war. They had convinced a

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Speaker 17: large percentage of at least they're electorate, but maybe some

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Speaker 17: squishy middle that we were just wanting to starve little

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Speaker 17: kids and take healthcare away from Americans. They were sort

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Speaker 17: of winning on that, and now they're freak out over

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Speaker 17: reopening the government because they never were. They were never

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Speaker 17: going to have the votes right, and they were never

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Speaker 17: going to get there. The caucus, the Republican Caucus, was

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Speaker 17: staying firm on these ACA subsidies, so essentially they were

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Speaker 17: doing it for optics.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, the point.

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Speaker 17: Is, it's the most cynical reaction to it, and I

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Speaker 17: think their reaction is giving Trump and the Republicans the

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Speaker 17: upper hand here.

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Speaker 5: We'll go back to when the shutdown starts.

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Speaker 24: What was the number one story going on the political media,

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Speaker 24: AOC potentially to challenge Schumer, and he needed to seem

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Speaker 24: like he was a fighter.

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Speaker 5: This is what the fight was over.

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Speaker 24: It was over Schumer's political career and Schumer's political future,

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Speaker 24: and I think that was a big part of it.

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Speaker 24: I think Schumer really and that's why Schumer voted against

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Speaker 24: the Schumer would.

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Speaker 5: Never usually vote against the government spending bill.

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Speaker 24: He usually always votes for this. It's a show that

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Speaker 24: Schumer still tough and Schumer should not be primaried, and

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Speaker 24: they're all going to come after him. Rocan has already

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Speaker 24: come after him, as you said, Sonny Hawsen, there's other

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Speaker 24: people on the left saying Schumer has to go. And

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Speaker 24: I think that that's really the tragy of Schumer's life.

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Speaker 24: He's been his entire life trying to get to this point.

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Speaker 24: The most I think he ever had is fifty one

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Speaker 24: Democratic Senators to really do nothing.

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Speaker 1: Wess, Yeah, it is all right.

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Speaker 17: So let's go back to this fifty year mortgage debate

1155
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Speaker 17: and kind of this gen Z economic moonshot idea. We

1156
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 17: got we actually talked about an hour one and I

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00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 17: mean we got inundated by emails across generations about what

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Speaker 17: they thought of it. I'll be honest, I think Blake,

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Speaker 17: you would agree it was more positive than we were expecting.

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Speaker 1: People are actually a little bit more.

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Speaker 17: Positive on this idea, at least in our audience than

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Speaker 17: what you would see on like Twitter x discussion.

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Speaker 1: Blake, I don't know.

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Speaker 18: I was definitely expecting more negativity on it, and then

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00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 18: I got a lot of people.

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Speaker 8: Who said they liked the idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: They Basically we are seeing in a very pragmatic way,

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Speaker 17: how people could use this, use it to get into

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Speaker 17: the market to the first place, and then refinance or

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Speaker 17: use it to trade up to a home. So people

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Speaker 17: are used seeing flexibility, they're seeing opportunity to being pragmatists

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Speaker 17: about it. Our original take this morning was that it

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Speaker 17: reeks of debt slavery. It's not addressing the underlying root causes.

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Speaker 17: It's just sort of like covering over them, papering over them.

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Speaker 17: Ryan James Gurdesky makes sense of that for us. What's

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Speaker 17: your take, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Kind of agree that it's an entrance to the marketplace.

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Speaker 24: I'm not I don't hate it because it's not like

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Speaker 24: you have to do it right. You're not forced tous,

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Speaker 24: so you'd still do a thirty year loan. It's not

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Speaker 24: like they're getting rid of a thirty year loan. And

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Speaker 24: I think for a lot of people is that try

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Speaker 24: to get in for a lower rates and then readjust

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Speaker 24: over time.

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Speaker 5: But the American public is extruly thickle.

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Speaker 24: We only want we want solutions to take care of

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Speaker 24: itself within six months. I mean, it's almost like we

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 24: almost have like a sitcom show brain, like the whole

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Speaker 24: episode has to have a happy ending within.

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Speaker 5: Twenty eight minutes. Other worse, we don't really want to

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Speaker 5: be part of.

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Speaker 24: It, so we would like a very short term, you know,

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00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 24: an answer to this. And the problem is the root

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Speaker 24: cause of our economy, the real stressors of it right

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Speaker 24: now for everyday people. It's been happening for at least

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Speaker 24: the five years at least since COVID, A lot of

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Speaker 24: these problems have been taking place. If you want to

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Speaker 24: have a deficit and talk about other things, that's going

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Speaker 24: on way longer, right trade and bounces way way longer.

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Speaker 24: But right now, the insustainability of life for working class

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00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 24: people and especially for gen Z has been going for

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Speaker 24: five years.

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Speaker 5: You can't fix the whole thing in the nine months

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: of Trump has.

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Speaker 24: Been president, right, And I know at times it doesn't

1207
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Speaker 24: seem like he's been paying attention to it because he's

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Speaker 24: been other high profile things the wars in the Middle

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 24: East and trying to solve Ukraine and you know, other stuff.

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Speaker 5: But I think that given what is.

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Speaker 24: The problem right for the everyday life, it's a question

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Speaker 24: of how do I make it better in the immediate

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Speaker 24: And that's a good answer.

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Speaker 5: It's a band aid, it's not the full solution. But

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Speaker 5: I don't hate it.

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Speaker 17: All right, So I'm going to say a provocative statement.

1217
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 17: I want both of you to react to it. I'm

1218
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Speaker 17: not saying I agree with this. I'm saying this is

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Speaker 17: a critique that has been leveled against this administration, and

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Speaker 17: I've heard it from both sides. Actually, I had a

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Speaker 17: conversation that's more than from somebody on the left that

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Speaker 17: allege this, which doesn't surprise me with hearing it over

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Speaker 17: the weekend from the right. President Trump's economic populism is fake.

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 17: Prove me wrong. Do you guys agree or do you disagree? Blake,

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00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 17: you can go first, because Ryan's thinking right now. I

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 17: can see him.

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Speaker 18: I mean, he's definitely done some pretty populous things. I mean,

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Speaker 18: the tariffs are populist measure right, clearly, like he's done

1229
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 18: them for a populist objective to bring manufacturing.

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Speaker 1: Back to America.

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Speaker 18: And I mean even the fifty year mortgage, this is

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Speaker 18: intended as a populist thing, and it might be more popular.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the two thousand dollars tariff.

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Speaker 8: The two thousand dollars teriff that I don't like that

1235
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Speaker 8: is I think it's not my cup of tea.

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Speaker 1: You'd rather pay down debts I would, I'd rather not

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Speaker 1: take it.

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Speaker 18: And it feels like I almost suspect some of it

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Speaker 18: is he's trying to, you know, maybe politically pressure the

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Speaker 18: Supreme Court because he can be like, well, I'd have

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Speaker 18: to take two thousand dollars back from everyone if the

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Speaker 18: tariffs get repealed.

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Speaker 8: And it's also just we saw during COVID.

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Speaker 18: We had a lot of stimulus payments during COVID, and

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Speaker 18: it just drove an inflationary spike. Get me those stimmies, Yeah,

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Speaker 18: the stimmies. It's like, you know, it's sort of like, oh,

1247
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Speaker 18: give me one more hit of cocaine or something. It's

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Speaker 18: it's in the end, we are addicted to cheap money,

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Speaker 18: and the cure for that is not more cheap money.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 18: But coming down from that, this is what the hard

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Speaker 18: point of a lot of populism is. It is painful

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Speaker 18: to make good economic decisions.

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Speaker 8: Long term, it.

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Speaker 18: Is very healthy, but especially because of how addicted America

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Speaker 18: has gotten to our current pattern, it will be hard

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01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 18: to break that pattern, possibly even politically impossible, and that's

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Speaker 18: really tough.

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Speaker 17: One minute, Ryan James Grideska, I think that it has

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Speaker 17: been a mixed bag right American right. The America right

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Speaker 17: is is obsessed with free market capitalism, and so he's

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Speaker 17: sticking to things like the tax cuts on the wealthy

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Speaker 17: that I don't think. I think if he would have

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Speaker 17: gotten rid of those that it would have been much

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Speaker 17: more populous. But I think that at the same exact

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Speaker 17: time he has done he is, he's inarguably done populous

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Speaker 17: things that I think it's a mixed bag.

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Speaker 24: It's hardest sit there and say he's only done one

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Speaker 24: or only on the other. He has to work within

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Speaker 24: the Congress, he has to work with in the Senate.

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Speaker 24: I know that I went to Capitol Hill right before

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Speaker 24: the tax cut boats were coming up, and I said

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Speaker 24: here's a poll that I've done with some very smart people.

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Speaker 24: Least popular thing were tax cuts for millionaires. Most popular

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Speaker 24: thing no tax on social Security, no tax on tips.

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Speaker 24: They really did not like that answer. So I think

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Speaker 24: that given.

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Speaker 1: The time, what was.

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Speaker 24: The most popular thing was no tax on tips, no

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Speaker 24: tax on social Security, overwhelmingly by brokers, least popular tax

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Speaker 24: cuts for millionaires. I brought that to the Republicans in

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Speaker 24: Congress in the committee, and they were not really feeling

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Speaker 24: that information.

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Speaker 17: step with the theme of the show, and like today,

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Speaker 17: it's completely spot on.

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Speaker 1: And that's with why.

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Speaker 17: student loans, which there are about forty five billion dollars

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Speaker 17: worth of these in the country. And if they are

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Speaker 17: labeled as distressed or defaulted and nobody's helping you out, nobody,

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Speaker 17: times without penalty. Who does that. I don't know who

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Speaker 17: does that. They'll tailor it to your budget.

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Speaker 1: That's the key.

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Speaker 17: You're not gonna call some nameless, faceless call center in

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Speaker 17: India like they're gonna work with you come up with

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Speaker 17: a plan. You got to take control of your financial

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Speaker 17: destiny and situation. So again, that is yrefi dot com

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Speaker 17: or eight eight eight y Refi thirty four. Ryan James

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Speaker 17: Gerdowski joins us again in just three seconds.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: I'm Andrew Covid, Executive Producer, of this Fine show with

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Speaker 17: Blake Neff as well as Ryan James Gerdowsky. Ryan, real quick,

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Speaker 17: give us your coordinates here? Where can people follow you

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Speaker 17: find the work that you're doing.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, you can find my can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 24: at Ryan Gardowski. I have a website, Ryan Gridsky dot

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Speaker 24: comworre can get my great newsletter. I have a podcast

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Speaker 24: in the iHeart Radio app and ever we get podcasts

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Speaker 24: called the Numbers Game. And I have a pack for

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Speaker 24: education called the seventeen seventy six Project Pack. And we

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Speaker 24: have a foundation called the seventeen seventy six Project Foundation.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing at the pack? There? Just so people?

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Speaker 24: We invest in school board elections. So we did about

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Speaker 24: eighty school board elections last week. We didn't do great night,

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Speaker 24: but we still won twenty seven of them. And then

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Speaker 24: the foundation gets involved with those school boards to sit

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Speaker 24: there and say, how do we improve reading levels, how

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Speaker 24: do we get involved with discipline, how do we get

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Speaker 24: rid of some critical race theory in your classrooms?

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Speaker 5: How do we celebrate Americas? Yeah, stuff like that so.

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Speaker 18: Super important that a lot I was reading just over

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Speaker 18: the weekend about someone in a really conservative part of

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Speaker 18: the country, but they just said the school board is

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Speaker 18: like all kind of just libs because people don't pay

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Speaker 18: attention to it. And it was like one guy blocking

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Speaker 18: all the insane race communism and he lost reelection.

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Speaker 1: So jeez, so that's school board's now screwed again.

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Speaker 5: So actually this is Aquifron endorsement.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, exactly. So check out Ryan stuff. He's doing great work.

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Speaker 17: And I read your National Populist sub stack all the time,

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Speaker 17: your newsletter.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it absolu.

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Speaker 17: And by the way, which is why I was why

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Speaker 17: we actually had you on here is you had a

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Speaker 17: contrary and take on New Jersey. It all ties in

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Speaker 17: because Dems were playing the shutdown to juice up their

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Speaker 17: base voters especially, and it was smart because this isn't

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Speaker 17: off your election, our turnout. We have low prop voters,

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Speaker 17: they have high prop voters. You juice it. This is

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Speaker 17: why we saw some of these margins increase over twenty

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Speaker 17: twenty one years. You say there's a glass half full

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Speaker 17: interpretation of what we saw in New Jersey specifically, I'm

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Speaker 17: sure you could extrapolate that out, but what is your take.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, So, unlike Virginia, where Winsome series really didn't run

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Speaker 24: a very good race. Chitarelly did run a very good race.

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Speaker 24: He got two hundred thousand more votes, sorry, one hundred

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Speaker 24: and twenty two thousand more votes than he did last time.

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Speaker 24: That being said, he would have won any election in

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Speaker 24: New Jersey's history since nineteen seventy three except for the

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Speaker 24: one last week, because turnout increased by more than fifty percent.

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Speaker 24: But when you look at the very bare bones, you

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Speaker 24: know metrics of where New Jersey's going, it's undeniably going

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Speaker 24: in favor of Republicans.

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Speaker 5: That put this out.

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Speaker 24: In the first year of the Trump administration in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 24: Democrats were outregistered new voters New Jersey twelve thousand, five

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Speaker 24: hundred to Republicans to sorry, Republicans registered about tweve thousand

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Speaker 24: and five hundred.

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Speaker 5: Democrats was about forty five thousand.

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Speaker 24: There was an immense blowback from Trump's when Trump first

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Speaker 24: got in, tens of thousands of new Democrats coming in

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Speaker 24: the woodwork, hundreds of thousands of new Democrats over.

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Speaker 5: The course of the four years.

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Speaker 24: In the first year of this year, that all begins

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Speaker 24: to reverse when Biden became president. By the way, in

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Speaker 24: the first year of this year, Democrats lost eighty six

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Speaker 24: hundred voters in the first ten months of this year,

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Speaker 24: while Republicans gained twenty one thousand new voters, right, an

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Speaker 24: unparalleled trajectory completely different than when Trump first became president.

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Speaker 24: That shows that the where the direction where the trajectory

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Speaker 24: of Jersey is going is undeniable. Even though we had

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Speaker 24: an election loss, even though independence swung against this this

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Speaker 24: one time, people would much rather be a Republican than

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Speaker 24: a Democrat. And there's a point of clarity in New

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Speaker 24: Jersey that the Democratic Party really isn't working there.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 24: We've heard a lot about like the Latino vote. Right,

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Speaker 24: the Latino vote swung heavily. When you look at how

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Speaker 24: the Latino vote compared voted in twenty twenty five versus

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Speaker 24: twenty twenty one in twenty seventeen, they're still way more

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Speaker 24: to the right than they were in twenty seventeen. Right,

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Speaker 24: they haven't lost all this huge support that we're going

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Speaker 24: for Republicans. In some places, it's a double digit increase

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Speaker 24: when you look at Republican versus Democrat increase in the

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Speaker 24: raw vote. Republicans in many cities, they like Pa say

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Speaker 24: there was more raw vote increase towards Republicans over the

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Speaker 24: last eight years, and there were towards Democrats. And actually,

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Speaker 24: when you when the liberals like, oh, it's all in

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Speaker 24: our immigration, when you look at what voters are talking about,

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Speaker 24: it was cost of living. Because you know what groups

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Speaker 24: swung even harder against Republicans than Latinos in this last

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Speaker 24: election from compared to twenty twenty one, it was non

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Speaker 24: college educated whites now in college of DUCA whites actually

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Speaker 24: had a bigger swing because it's about a four and

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Speaker 24: they are feeling it, you know, in the pocketbook.

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Speaker 5: So it wasn't an immigration thing. It's not a Trump thing.

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Speaker 24: It's just it's a mixture of high propensity turn up

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Speaker 24: from Democrats and anger over the economy.

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Speaker 1: So would you say that?

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Speaker 17: And and by the way, I'm glad you brought up

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Speaker 17: Latinos because one of the things Blake and I have

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Speaker 17: talked a lot about is, you know, these new maps

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Speaker 17: out of Texas, A lot of that is contingent on

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Speaker 17: Hispanic staying in the Republican column. You could over engineer

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Speaker 17: those maps and find yourself in a worse position theoretically.

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Speaker 1: So I hope, yeah, I hope are.

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Speaker 17: You seeing are you seeing that trends continue, is it accelerating?

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Speaker 1: What's happened with Latinos?

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Speaker 17: And I know I'm talking about Texas and New Jersey

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Speaker 17: it's probably two different things, but we got thirty seconds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 24: Well, there was a poll by Unados, which is not

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Speaker 24: a great polling from their pretty liberal however, they pull

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Speaker 24: Latinos and they said, what are your five biggest issues

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Speaker 24: for related the economy, cost of living, healthcare, housing, and

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Speaker 24: the fifth one was gun violence.

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Speaker 5: Immigration does not make the top five.

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Speaker 24: And when you look at where they project a Spanish

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Speaker 24: to go versus where they went, it's about maybe a

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Speaker 24: five point swing in the direction of Democrats, but it's

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Speaker 24: not overwhelming and it's not three twenty twenty two swing

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Speaker 24: towards Republicans twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that holds for Texas too? Real quick?

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Speaker 25: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good? All right?

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Speaker 5: Toahanas are more of the right than Latinos are.

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Speaker 17: Ryan James Gerdoski, Great work, my friend. Thank you for

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Speaker 17: making the time today. I know you had to move

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Speaker 17: some stuff through having me. Thank you so much. All right,

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Speaker 17: Julie Kelly joins us. Next, we're going to talk pipe

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Speaker 17: bomb some news over the weekend, and it's back.

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Speaker 1: It's back.

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Speaker 20: Welcome back to this real America's voice, snoos break. I'm

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Speaker 20: Terrence Bates. A group of Senate Democrats split with Senate

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Speaker 20: Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on Sunday night and join the

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Speaker 20: Republican majority and voting to move forward with temporarily reopening

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Speaker 20: the federal government. The move comes after Senate Majority Leader

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Speaker 20: John Thune told his colleagues they would stay in session

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Speaker 20: until the government reopens. At the moment, the longest government

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Speaker 20: shut down in US history continues, though, but this deal

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Speaker 20: would fund the government for several weeks and guarantee a

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Speaker 20: December vote on extending expiring Affordable Care Act tax credits,

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Speaker 20: which is what Democrats have been holding out for. Under

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Speaker 20: the proposal, federal workers would also receive back pay. Mass

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Speaker 20: firings of federal workers during the shutdown would also be reversed.

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Speaker 20: Seven Democrats and an independent voted with Republicans on Sunday,

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Speaker 20: meaning that more votes are expected this week. Members of

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Speaker 20: the US House have been put on notice to prepare

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Speaker 20: to return to Washington in the coming days in order

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Speaker 20: to pass the proposals and get them on President Trump's desk.

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Speaker 20: President Trump, by the way, is chiming in saying quote,

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Speaker 20: it looks like they're getting close to the shutdown ending.

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Speaker 20: While the government shutdown could come to an end as

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Speaker 20: soon as today or probably not, but today does mark

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Speaker 20: another day of expected major flight delays and cancellations due

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Speaker 20: to air traffic controllers staffing concerns. On Sunday, airlines canceled

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Speaker 20: more than twenty seven hundred flights and delayed more than

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Speaker 20: ten thousand more. Those numbers mark the worst day at

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Speaker 20: the nation's airport since the shutdown began, and come as

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Speaker 20: a result of FAA mandated flight cuts meant to keep

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Speaker 20: air traffic safe. Delta Airlines was hit especially hard, as

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Speaker 20: the airline reportedly canceled or delayed more than half of

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Speaker 20: its flights on Sunday. The FAA's flight reduction started at

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Speaker 20: four percent on Friday and are set to increase to

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Speaker 20: six percent tomorrow before hitting the ten percent goal at

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Speaker 20: the end.

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Speaker 1: Of this week.

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Speaker 20: Meantime, thirteen thousand air traffic controllers and fifty thousand TSA

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Speaker 20: agents are being forced to work without pay during.

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Speaker 5: The ongoing government shut down.

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Speaker 20: And it looks like the forty two million Americans who

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Speaker 20: depend on snap food benefits will get food that they

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Speaker 20: need leading up to the Thanksgiving holiday. Late Sunday at

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Speaker 20: Boston based Court of Appeals upheld a lower court ruling

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Speaker 20: out of Rhode Island ordering the Trump administration to fully

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Speaker 20: fund this month's food aid benefits. That's a quick check

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Speaker 20: of your headlines. I'm Terence Bates.

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Speaker 1: The next Great Awakening is here.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm

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Speaker 17: really excited about this. We have the great Julie Kelly

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Speaker 17: from US Declassified dot Live substack. But really quickly, I

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Speaker 17: want to tell you about Patriot Mobile. I realized there

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Speaker 17: are many choices when it comes to who you choose

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Speaker 17: for your cell phone service, and there are new ones

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Speaker 17: popping up all of the time.

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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly is with us, the great Julie Kelly. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show. Julie.

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Speaker 17: I think this is the first time we've had you

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Speaker 17: since all of everything went down, so welcome back.

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Speaker 25: It's been too long, it has been Andrew, thank you

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 25: so much for having me on. And I know we're

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Speaker 25: going to talk about some issues that were near and

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 25: dear to Charlie's heart and that and I discussed several

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Speaker 25: times over the last few years.

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Speaker 26: So thanks so much for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, And you know, we talked about this over the weekend,

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Speaker 17: and it's true. I mean, I think about all the

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Speaker 17: times we had Darren Beattie on and you on talking

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Speaker 17: about who did this? Like you know, it's if you

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Speaker 17: think back on the stakes of the JA six pipe bomber.

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Speaker 17: I mean, if we're to believe what we're told is

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Speaker 17: like Kamala Harris almost got you know, murdered, and then.

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Speaker 1: Like nobody in the government seemed to care. So it is.

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Speaker 18: A very, very weird heard so much about January sixth,

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Speaker 18: and yet so rarely would they mention like, oh, the

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Speaker 18: attempted assassination of the vice president, right, this terrorist bombing

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Speaker 18: was at the center of it.

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Speaker 17: So so there was some news this weekend. Julie, I'm

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Speaker 17: I approach it with fear and trembling because there's a

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Speaker 17: lot of moving pieces here and a lot of allegations

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Speaker 17: being thrown around. So please say, stage, tell our audience

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Speaker 17: what happened this weekend, and then we'll get into you

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Speaker 17: whether we should.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 25: So first of all, as you guys know, and Charlie knows,

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Speaker 25: knew that I have been covering the pipe bomb January

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Speaker 25: sixth pipe bomb issue really since the summer of twenty

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Speaker 25: twenty one, and no one did more work on this

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Speaker 25: really than Darren Baedy at Revolver News.

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Speaker 26: He's now in the administration.

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Speaker 25: I really miss him at times like this because he

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Speaker 25: always he pegged and he exposed so many strange circumstances

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Speaker 25: with both the DNC. That is where the pipe bomb

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Speaker 25: was found outside of the headquarters of the Democratic National

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Speaker 25: Committee at about one to five on the afternoon of

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Speaker 25: January sixth, twenty twenty one. You could see police officer

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Speaker 25: vehicles right there, including one belonging to the US Secret Service.

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Speaker 25: Because to your point, we also uncovered the fact that strangely,

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Speaker 25: Kamala Harris, who was a sitting US Senator at the time,

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Speaker 25: she was going to be part of the proceedings that

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Speaker 25: day also his store incoming vice president for inexplicable reasons,

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Speaker 25: went to the DNC headquarters at around eleven twenty five

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Speaker 25: that morning. She was there when this really dummy device

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Speaker 25: was found outside just to the right of where that

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Speaker 25: black suv is. And then also we've covered the equally

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Speaker 25: strange circumstances about the discovery of the device outside of

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Speaker 25: the Republican National Committee headquarters that was detected at about

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Speaker 25: twelve forty pm, twenty minutes before that joint session of

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Speaker 25: Congress convened. So anyway, we've been exposing all of this,

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Speaker 25: Kamala Harris's presence, the law enforcement ties of the woman

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Speaker 25: who discovered the RNC pipe bomb. I found the video

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Speaker 25: that showed bomb sniffing canine units not once but twice

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Speaker 25: right near the DNC device. So look, few people want

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Speaker 25: to know the identity of the person or people who

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Speaker 25: set those devices. But what we saw happen over the

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Speaker 25: weekend was a and there is you could see law

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Speaker 25: enforcement after the alleged device was found, and as you

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Speaker 25: guys know, it was right in between those two benches

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Speaker 25: under that bush. So at any rate, a few people

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Speaker 25: want to know the identity more than I do, or

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Speaker 25: Darren Batty or the people have really done so much

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Speaker 25: work on this. But over the weekend, a really bombshell

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Speaker 25: sorry for the pun story on The Blaze claiming that

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Speaker 25: a Gate analysis had determined the identity of an individual

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Speaker 25: who had similar walking patterns as this individual here seen

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Speaker 25: on surveillance video the night of January fifth, which is

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Speaker 25: when the FBI thinks that both of those devices were planted.

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Speaker 25: So this has been Yes, I'm not going to say,

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Speaker 25: but she was a Capitol Police officer on January sixth.

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Speaker 25: She was using non lethal munitions against the crowd, firing

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Speaker 25: pepperballs into the crowd, as many Capitol Police officers were doing,

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Speaker 25: and apparently looking at that video, Steve Baker, who's one

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Speaker 25: of the reporters on this story, thought that her walking

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Speaker 25: patterns mirrored the one on the individual on January fifth,

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Speaker 25: who still has not been identified. And the so called

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Speaker 25: gate analysis, apparently some software determined that the match was

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Speaker 25: around ninety four percent certainties. So a lot of skepticism

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Speaker 25: about that story. We can talk about it. But this,

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Speaker 25: as you know, you guys, this took over the internet

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Speaker 25: over the weekend and is still getting a lot of

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Speaker 25: coverage and attention.

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Speaker 18: There's other circumstantial evidence they claim, right like she did

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Speaker 18: leave the Capitol Police shortly after, like they're offering other

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Speaker 18: Certainly it's certainly not proof.

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Speaker 8: By itself, but they do have more than just.

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Speaker 18: Gate analysis, literally just a AI analyzing how they walk.

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Speaker 17: I guess, yeah, well, and it is interesting to note

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Speaker 17: that she did leave the Capitol Police like pretty shortly thereafter.

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Speaker 18: And it's like she left and there's like a lot

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Speaker 18: of quiet, like they claim, you know, it's all very quiet.

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Speaker 17: But yeah, but I'm not like, I'm not in a

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Speaker 17: position and Julie, I'd love your feedback on this. I'm

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Speaker 17: not in a position where I even want to name

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Speaker 17: the person because you know, if allegations like this are wrong,

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Speaker 17: it's it's deeply unfair to the person being named and

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Speaker 17: having their reputation you know, sullied basically for you know,

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Speaker 17: we're not sure, right, We're not sure. But it is

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Speaker 17: a giant mystery, and I think there's two sort of

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Speaker 17: stories under going on here at the same time. One

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Speaker 17: is this analysis that Steve Baker did, Gate analysis walking,

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Speaker 17: which is walking analysis, but it's also it's one of

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Speaker 17: those stories that keeps, you know, coming back around because

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Speaker 17: it is so mysterious.

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Speaker 1: Is why it.

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Speaker 17: Wasn't made the hugest story, you know, during January six

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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 17: you should have been at least a top two or

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Speaker 17: top three story that the vice president was almost you know,

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Speaker 17: murdered along with the RNC. There was one at the

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Speaker 17: RNC as well, and some of it it just doesn't

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Speaker 17: make any sense because it's this glaring kind of outlier

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Speaker 17: and we can't make sense of it. But we all

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Speaker 17: know that there was funny business going on on Jay six,

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Speaker 17: and this would be a lynchpin in the unraveling this

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Speaker 17: narrative that I believe has been sold to us.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. There's just too much wrong

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 17: So what is the much Yeah, how reliable are we

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Speaker 17: are we to take this analysis?

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Speaker 25: I think it needs to be met with a very

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Speaker 25: heavy dose of skepticism, and I will explain why. But

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Speaker 25: first I want to clarify my position. Number one, I

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Speaker 25: do not believe and have never believed, that those devices

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Speaker 25: were set the night of January fifth, because to.

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Speaker 26: Believe that, you have to believe that neither.

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Speaker 25: Device was that both devices went undetected for seventeen hours,

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Speaker 25: and which seems particularly unlikely in the case of the

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Speaker 25: DNC device, where not only again there were two bomb

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Speaker 25: sniffy canine units who were right there, you had law

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Speaker 25: enforcement from the Secret Service, Metro Police, Capitol Police who

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Speaker 25: were right outside of the DNC headquarters numerous times, and

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Speaker 25: again that device wasn't really obscured. It was right between

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Speaker 25: those two benches, not to mention pedestrians and other dogs and.

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Speaker 26: People just walking back and forth.

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Speaker 25: Very strange that that would have sat there for seventeen

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Speaker 25: hours undetected. The RNC device also very sketchy. The woman

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Speaker 25: with law enforcement hies now, she told the FBI that

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Speaker 25: there was no way that that device that the device

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Speaker 25: was not planted before noon on January sixth.

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Speaker 26: She said it had to have been.

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Speaker 25: Planted between noon and twelve forty on January sixth, because

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Speaker 25: she went to that area at noon and didn't see

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Speaker 25: the device there. Now, she is kind of a sketchy story,

1695
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Speaker 25: and I've reported on her. I've got a couple right.

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01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 25: So that is where the DNC device you could see

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 25: right there, allegedly was sitting there for seventeen hours and

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01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 25: no one spotted it. There's also some video that indicates

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Speaker 25: that maybe there was a plain close police officer who

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01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 25: could have said it there around twelve fifty three twelve

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Speaker 25: fifty five on January sixth.

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Speaker 26: So I've never doubted that this was an inside job.

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01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 26: This was a hoax.

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01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 25: It was a stunt, and that law enforcement was probably

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Speaker 25: tied to that.

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Speaker 26: So I want to say that very clearly.

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Speaker 25: The problem with this report is number one, this analysis

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01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 25: and investigation took place in a.

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Speaker 26: Matter of two weeks.

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Speaker 25: That means that they identified this Capitol police officer thought

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Speaker 25: that her walking pattern matched the individual on January fifth.

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Speaker 25: They put some sort of video samples together in the report.

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Speaker 25: In this article on the Blaze, they said that they

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Speaker 25: did not use the FBI video. They used a different

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Speaker 25: sample that was a better quality and speed it up

1716
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 25: to a normal speed, so we don't even know what

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Speaker 25: the video clip was. Then they also used a video

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Speaker 25: clip of this individual playing soccer. She was a college

1719
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 25: soccer star and then played I think like a professional soccer.

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Speaker 25: So they used that as a gate analysis.

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Speaker 17: But Julie, you're saying, in order to believe this report,

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Speaker 17: you would have to believe that the pipe bomb was

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01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 17: planted on January fifth, And you're saying, that's not even

1724
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 17: what you think it's true because it would have to

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01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 17: sit there for seventeen hours. Did they address that in

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01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 17: their reporting, Julie, Steve Baker, they have not got But

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Speaker 17: I do want to make clear Andrew, this is what

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01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 17: the FBI believes as well.

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Speaker 25: They just did another update on that too. They just

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Speaker 25: didn't update on that as well. The problem with this article,

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Speaker 25: we the public should be able to see the video

1732
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 25: samples that they use for the Gate analysis, and we

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01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 25: also should be able to see a copy of the

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Speaker 25: analysis they call forensic evidence. So when you're not including

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Speaker 25: those links or that evidence or material in your article,

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Speaker 25: it definitely should raise questions about the veracity of it.

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Speaker 26: Furthermore, people who are.

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Speaker 25: Asking questions and I think these are legit legit are

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Speaker 25: being attacked, So I'm not really sure what that is about.

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Speaker 25: This could kind of be simply solved by just giving

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Speaker 25: everyone the evidence that they use really to determine this

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Speaker 25: was a suspect.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, please check out Julie's Twitter It's it's super important

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Speaker 17: Twitter follower x follower and her subject Julie, thank you

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01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 17: for making the time for us today.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 26: Thanks guys, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 8: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Letting everyone know socialism sucks. The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: All right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show. We

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01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 17: are still getting blown up by emails here.

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Speaker 1: No pun the pipe bomb story.

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01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 17: But we're still getting a lot of your emails about

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01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 17: the fifty year mortgage. Colleen is worried that we're being

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01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 17: swayed by the email from emails from you guys that

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 17: seem a little bit more positive than we anticipated.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, Colleen.

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Speaker 17: I still don't think it's a great idea. I still

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01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 17: think it papers over the issue. I will say that

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01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 17: it could be a tool. It could be a useful

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01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 17: tool for people to get in the market, still get

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Speaker 17: to write off your mortgage. I think you could make

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Speaker 17: it even better candidly, and I want to highlight this

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Speaker 17: lomaz tweet really quick, But why don't you read some

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Speaker 17: of the other ones while I find that because it

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Speaker 17: was Lomas has some good idea. Yeah, sure, Jonathan Kieberman,

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Speaker 17: who was on the show on Friday, actually, actually I

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Speaker 17: found it. If you want me to go for it,

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Speaker 17: so Lomasa and that this is image ninety eight if

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Speaker 17: you want to throw it up, he says, back of

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Speaker 17: the Napkin proposal for MAGA home buying policy, foreign nationals

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 17: purchased something like two percent of American homes every year,

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01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 17: mostly in luxury areas, and much of it in cash.

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Speaker 17: This should come with a steep tax, such a tax,

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Speaker 17: as is common elsewhere. Canada et cetera has a non

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Speaker 17: resident acquisition tax. Use that tax offset interest payments for

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 17: first time native born home buyers. States can should add

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 17: additional property tax rebates for first time home buyers born

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Speaker 17: in their state. Married couples buying for their first home

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 17: should also receive additional interest rate discount.

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Speaker 1: I love all the creativity.

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Speaker 17: Some of these probably have negative side effects that we

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 17: haven't fully fleshed out. But when you say, oh, you're married,

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01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 17: you know you would probably get marriage fraud at that point,

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01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 17: but like you already have plenty of that, right exactly.

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01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 17: I mean illhan Omar would be first example. But no,

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Speaker 17: I mean, you know, incentivizing good behavior though and then

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01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 17: and then disincentivizing foreigners straight up banning institutional money from

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01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 17: being able to purchase these homes. Private equity is another. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: it's another area of debate. You have to you just

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01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 17: have to think, like, what is our goal here? And it,

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01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 17: says Charlie pointed out.

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Speaker 18: The goal is to create an ownership society where people

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Speaker 18: feel they have a stake in it, and that might

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 18: mean we need to arrange things with mortgages where it's

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01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 18: not an endlessly growing investment vehicle.

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Speaker 17: I'll have you explained that on the other side of

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Speaker 17: this break when we welcome back radio, We're going to be

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Speaker 17: back in two seconds.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, all.

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Speaker 17: Right, listen, Charlie built a thriving community through conversation. It's

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01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 17: not something that happened overnight. It happens over time, one

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01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,639
Speaker 17: connection at a time. TikTok offers opportunities for respectful exchange

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01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 17: of ideas and through that opportunities for community. You'll find

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01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 17: creators on TikTok who teach and encourage others. A carpenter

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01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 17: passing on his craw, a mom explaining how to make

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01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 17: a budget stretch, or Gardner's showing us how to bring

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01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 17: a backyard back to life. Different stories, same drives. The

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01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 17: desire to connect and understand. That's what makes a strong community,

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01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 17: a common desire to connect and to find ways forward

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01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 17: through respectful dialogue, building trust and feeling heard, freedom to

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 17: speak what we know and to hear from each other.

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 17: That is the power of TikTok. You know, Charlie had

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01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 17: billions of views on TikTok ahead of the election. And

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01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 17: then billions more after the election. Actually, so TikTok is

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01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 17: a place to speak, to listen, to remind each other

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01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 17: of what connection looks look like. Portions of The Charlie

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Speaker 17: Kirk Show are sponsored in part by TikTok. That's the

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01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 17: new American Owners. So Blake, let's we have just so

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01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 17: many emails. We want to make more time in the

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01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 17: show to get through them.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 18: Just Also, I want to apologize because someone said they

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 18: went to the same high school as boys two men,

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01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 18: and I am too much of a young person.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, you know, our older co host.

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01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, so I thought I thought always Too Men was

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01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 18: like a nineties movie.

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Speaker 8: It is a band.

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Speaker 1: It is a band.

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Speaker 8: I have ever lived.

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Speaker 1: Motown, Philly, Baby, Motown Philly. Uh yeah, not this we

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01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 1: should go out on.

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Speaker 8: This is beyond Mike Ken.

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Speaker 18: I just want to apologize on that before I get

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01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 18: dunked on massively by everyone.

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Speaker 1: Here. Do you have one because I got one that

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Speaker 1: defends you.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well I got we have one where m Roberts says,

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Speaker 18: you guys are insane. Boomer here, you guys are insane

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01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 18: advising young listeners that a fifty year mortgage is any

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01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,879
Speaker 18: kind of solution, and you should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Speaker 1: Would I don't believe.

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Speaker 19: I've welieve I've both been quite skeptical of it.

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Speaker 1: We are, we are extremely skeptical.

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Speaker 17: My idea is build ten million new homes to port illegals,

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Speaker 17: lower illegal immigration, which is going to take some doing, uh,

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Speaker 17: lower the regulatory burden to build new homes, and then

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01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 17: play with other financial incentives like writing off your entire

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01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 17: mortgage up until the age of thirty five, prioritizing first

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01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 17: time home buyers, banning institutional money, banning foreign investors, or,

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Speaker 17: as Lom has suggested, maybe you put you put a

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Speaker 17: tax on that because they are buyers. I mean, people

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01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 17: want to sell their homes. You know, they want to

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Speaker 17: make more money. I get the incentive there. By the way,

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Speaker 17: William says, guys Blake was right about not giving the

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Speaker 17: money away like the crazy, stupid money blown by Biden

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Speaker 17: which spiked inflation and it has stayed up because of

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Speaker 17: the budget deficit. The tariff money could be put in

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Speaker 17: a sovereign wealth fund and when it gets to a trillion,

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Speaker 17: start to draw from it monthly forment government expenses. Instead

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Speaker 17: of borrowing that amount from the Fed.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 18: The sad thing is is that that's something we could

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Speaker 18: have easily done decades ago. And you know, that's what

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Speaker 18: like Norway, for example, Norway's done that. Norway has a

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Speaker 18: sovereign wealth fund from their oil business, and you know,

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Speaker 18: they're a country of five six million people and it's

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Speaker 18: in the trillions of dollars, so it's actually a quite

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Speaker 18: large amount of money peral region citizen. And America could

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Speaker 18: have Now we're broke, but America had a long run

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Speaker 18: where we were a very rich country that could have

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Speaker 18: been pumping resources into that.

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Speaker 8: And you know, the sad thing is that I've read

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Speaker 8: about that.

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Speaker 18: Remember when Bush wanted to privatize Social Security in about

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Speaker 18: two thousand and five, and of course.

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Speaker 1: It went nowhere.

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Speaker 18: Everyone was like, oh, don't let Wall Street get its

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Speaker 18: hands on my social Security. If we'd done that, it

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Speaker 18: would have been insanely spectacularly successful, given what the stock

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Speaker 18: market has done since two thousand and five.

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Speaker 8: Would have just massive, would have fixed every problem we.

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Speaker 1: Have in reserve fund that they're that they're trying to build.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 8: That feel I would be very worried of that. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's like, okay, if you want to have it as

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Speaker 8: a thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't have it as a silver bullet.

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Speaker 18: It would just I would worry that would basically just

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Speaker 18: be it would feel like a giveaway to people who

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Speaker 18: already have bitcoin to me. And it's this hugely volatile

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01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 18: asset and it's very it's volatile, and.

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Speaker 17: But it's it's probably going to go to a man

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01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,919
Speaker 17: and it's an asset that gets like hacked and stuff.

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Speaker 17: And yeah, I mean, like I would like to hope

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Speaker 17: that the good people, but there maybe you know, maybe

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01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 17: that's hoping for too much competency. Can you imagine if

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Speaker 17: our our sovereign wealth fund got you know, you can

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Speaker 17: put them in cold storage and things like that. There's

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01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 17: there's ways you can you can address that. Can you

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01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 17: guys help us say this is from Steve, the difference

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Speaker 17: in approximate thirty to fifty your mortgage payment, it will

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Speaker 17: be lower, they would lower it would be lower, Yeah,

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01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 17: but the overall that cost of the loan would be

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01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 17: much higher.

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Speaker 8: It would be about looking at it's uh.

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Speaker 18: When I you know the AI generated summary when I

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01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 18: just asked for a plugin difference, it said if you

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Speaker 18: took a five hundred thousand dollars loan at a six

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Speaker 18: point two two percent interest rate, you would pay eighty

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01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 18: seven percent more total interest. Instead of six hundred thousand

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01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 18: dollars in interest, it'd be one point one million dollars

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Speaker 18: in interest plus what would the monthly payment be?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't say here, yeah, it will be much lower.

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01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 17: I will tell you. The first home I bought was

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01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 17: probably against the rules. Dave Ramsey would have been so

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Speaker 17: mad at me, but I made out like a bandit

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01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 17: on it. I did an interest only loan on a

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01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 17: home I otherwise couldn't afford. Sold it after two and

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01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 17: a half years, and we did well with it because

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01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 17: we bought in a really good neighborhood. So some of

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01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 17: this stuff is like, you know, there's a general rule

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01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 17: of thumb and then there's reality. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 17: saying I was the majority.

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Speaker 1: But it worked. What a show that went super fast.

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Speaker 17: We'll see you again tomorrow for Veterans Day.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back there. It is Jes