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Speaker 2: That's amazing, absolutely amazing. Some of these protesters hold up

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome to the Buck Brief. We've got David

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Speaker 3: Big speech from Prime Minister net Yah, who just finished

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Speaker 3: talk about it. What is the primary takeaway you've got

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Speaker 3: from the Prime Minister of Israel speaking to the US Congress.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that this could be best described as

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Speaker 1: the most robust and convincing articulation of the value of

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Speaker 1: Obviously the story of Israel, its need of this time,

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Speaker 1: certainly the value and the special place that the American

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you could title the speech Israel

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Speaker 4: And expansionism, and obviously.

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Speaker 1: The defense against and the line that stands in between

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Speaker 1: Iranian aspirations in America and attacks on American soil. And

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Speaker 1: you know, he correctly highlighted just how active Iran has

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Speaker 1: been not just against American interests, but also against the

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Speaker 1: United States. I mean that threat against Donald Trump that

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he laid.

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Speaker 1: It out just as clear as anybody could lay it

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Speaker 1: while protecting our shed interests in the Middle East. Just

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Speaker 1: highlighting and underscoring the value of this relationship to America

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Speaker 1: and Americans. And you know, he spoke about the American

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Speaker 1: for the Israeli military, for the idea paraphrasing Churchill, They're saying,

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Speaker 4: He said, give us the tools.

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Speaker 1: Faster, and we'll finish the job faster. For those who

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Speaker 4: I mean, Nancy Pelosi looks like a little midget, you know,

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Speaker 1: The broad vision, the historical context, and she's you know,

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Speaker 4: For not showing up.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Kamala Harris as president? I mean,

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Speaker 3: Kamala has been to the degree that we can know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she was the most far left senator when

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Speaker 1: I mean people were concerned about how it went through

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Speaker 1: the fact that she didn't make this a priority, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know what she's thinking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not rocket science to know that if

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Speaker 1: Today is going to help her politically either. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's true that there are more Democrats, are more Republicans

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Speaker 1: You know, I haven't had to look closely at his

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Speaker 4: Good luck to them.

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Speaker 3: Is there a sense of still maybe a lingering sense

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, time has moved on from the

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Speaker 1: So the question that remains is kind of where is

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Speaker 4: You know, the wake of October seventh, a lot of.

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Speaker 4: You know, those things are not things.

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Speaker 3: But perfect time to tell everybody about the International Fellowship

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Speaker 4: That they're going to have the supplies they need.

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Speaker 3: Clay said exactly that on our radio show just before,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there isn't there isn't a choice. There isn't

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Speaker 4: I mean, who does that help? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: You know, the first thing they'll do is they'll start

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Speaker 4: Can do this.

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Speaker 1: They can get up speak to the world with that

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know, political complications, let's call it

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Speaker 3: You know, excellent Dovid Ifoon, everybody, David, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Go check out the New York Sun. Dovid is the publisher.

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Speaker 3: They do great work. Become a subscriber over there. Dovid

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Speaker 3: will talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: What is a pleasure but