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Speaker 1: Welcome to Can't Flee Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: and the Black Effects, And just like that, we're back

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Speaker 1: on the air. Welcome back to yet another carefully reckless

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Speaker 1: episode with your girl. Just hilarious. And I think now

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Speaker 1: we can say, doctor Jess, i'd be fixing people's mess

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Speaker 1: and maybe updating me on the situations. And I haven't

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Speaker 1: gotten a lot of people. I haven't even gotten a

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Speaker 1: handful of people. And you only got five fingers. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry and shut out to people who have less. You

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Speaker 1: only got five fingers. You're supposed to have five fingers

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Speaker 1: on one hand, and I haven't even been able to

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Speaker 1: count on one hand yet. Well, I'm only been there,

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Speaker 1: I've only been here. What the point is. I haven't

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Speaker 1: had more than five people that' said I couldn't help them,

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Speaker 1: And that's what I love, you know, So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: jump right in now. Somebody wrote this, y'all know, I

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Speaker 1: hate it. I'm gonna tell y'all every episode. I hate

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Speaker 1: when y'all right versus sending in voice notes because then

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Speaker 1: y'all don't know how a failed job. But y'all, y'all

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Speaker 1: stories be so good. So I'll be trying to help

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Speaker 1: y'all piece it together. Anyway, here we go. Hey, Jess,

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Speaker 1: I love your show. So happy they're not deleting your

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Speaker 1: podcast like they used to do us when we first started. Damn,

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Speaker 1: now it's time to fix my mess. I've known Mark

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Speaker 1: for sixteen year. Damn, bitch, youre just gonna say his name? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, you've known Mark for sixteen years. I've always

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Speaker 1: loved this man. However, when we met sixteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think skinny dudes like thick girls like me,

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Speaker 1: so I initiated a no strings attached relationship. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 1: So you real quick, I'm going I'm gonna comment on that.

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Speaker 1: You said, I didn't think skinny dudes like thick girls

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Speaker 1: like me, so I initiated. I initiated a no strings

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Speaker 1: attached relationship. How you gonna thank for another man? First

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Speaker 1: of all, you're gonna thank for another person, And you

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Speaker 1: let the fact that you thought so much into what

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Speaker 1: this man preference is, who didn't even tell you what

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Speaker 1: his preference was, That you initiated a no strings attached

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Speaker 1: relationship and you knew that's not what you wanted. Don't

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Speaker 1: we bend over back with some stupidly foremen and don't

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Speaker 1: even have to half the time because that nigga ain't

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Speaker 1: never tell her that all right. Over the years, life

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Speaker 1: took us different ways, but I love this man, so

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Speaker 1: every holiday, every birthday, every year, I would text or

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Speaker 1: call him. Four kids later, on my end with a

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Speaker 1: failed relationship, Mark came back into my life. Twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I did my normal Thanksgiving text and I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: I received a phone call and we spoke for about

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Speaker 1: two or three hours. I was excited, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: expect anything of it. A month later, he calls and

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Speaker 1: asks if I could do his taxes. I'm sorry, that's

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Speaker 1: funny as shit, girl. You first, can you do my taxes?

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Speaker 2: Girl?

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Speaker 1: Please? And now you notice that was his way back

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Speaker 1: in if you really don't do taxes, if you ain't

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Speaker 1: no damn accountant, and you don't work at Terble tax

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Speaker 1: or for Turble text or nothing like that, that he

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Speaker 1: only hit you. That was a segue into talking to you.

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Speaker 1: He just wanted a reason to hit you, girl. I

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Speaker 1: ain't axting nobody to do my damn Texas. Fuck that.

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Speaker 1: I agreed, and next thing I know, he keeps coming

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Speaker 1: around every week every off daylight clockwork. I got to

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Speaker 1: know a little bit more about him and loved everything

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Speaker 1: about him. He made me feel safe and bought out

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Speaker 1: my feminine energy that my ex took away from me. No,

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Speaker 1: that you allowed your ex to take away from you.

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Speaker 1: Can't nobody take your feminine energy. And I made a mistake.

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Speaker 1: You didn't allow him to take it. You gave it

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Speaker 1: to me. He couldn't have took that shit from you.

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Speaker 1: That's a mind thing. You gotta change that mindset, change

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Speaker 1: up that narrative. Not that I need a man to

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Speaker 1: get that out of me. Exactly. I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 1: Let me just read mama business. So after hanging for

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Speaker 1: six months, he moved in. Oh all right, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: opened my home to him, cause to live as high

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Speaker 1: as hell, Okay, convenience and affordable. Now we have been

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Speaker 1: living together for six months. So I asked him about

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Speaker 1: where you just said y'all moved together because both of

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Speaker 1: y'all were struggling. Basically, he said no because he just

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Speaker 1: just continue to be us because we are indeed doing

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Speaker 1: everything a couple would do. We got a house together,

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Speaker 1: planning businesses together, and planning to go on trips. Y'all

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Speaker 1: planning to do all that together. But he's still hurt

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Speaker 1: from his last relationship. Girl, these jokes right themselves, ain't

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Speaker 1: no way all right. So he wants to treat you

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Speaker 1: you know, full time father and all that. Y'all want

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Speaker 1: satisfaction of a title or making it official. Oh God,

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Speaker 1: let me just finish. He helps with my kids and

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Speaker 1: I love it. Just recently we spent Valentine's Jea together,

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Speaker 1: an expensive dinner. I popped up, question if he thinks

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Speaker 1: not ready, And I'm like, what's the difference in what

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Speaker 1: we're doing now that we can't make us official? Now?

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Speaker 1: I'm lost and confused and scared, not sure if I

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Speaker 1: should walk away or stick with him, because other than

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Speaker 1: that one thing, there is no red flags. That's the

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Speaker 1: only red flag you need.

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Speaker 2: Bo.

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Speaker 1: He's committed to me in a way. I don't see

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Speaker 1: him cheating. It's just me, work and the children. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what to do. After listening to a few

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Speaker 1: Neither one of us want to lose this friendship we

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Speaker 1: have developed. A friend of mine told me to just

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Speaker 1: allow things to go the way it's going. But I'm

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Speaker 1: an overthinker and this makes me feel like I must

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Speaker 1: not be good enough for him. Just please help me

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Speaker 1: now because you said something that I did not like. Girl.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stop. I will pop your fingers

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Speaker 1: like a little girl like I because you should never

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Speaker 1: ever say but I'm an overthinker. No, you're not. Now

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Speaker 1: there are such people as overthinkers, and yeah, but you're

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Speaker 1: not overthinking in the situation. And I hate that we

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Speaker 1: you like you, know what I'm saying. Now. If you

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Speaker 1: like me back the same. That's only for you to show,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna see it. I'm gonna feel it if

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Speaker 1: you do. You feel when somebody fuck with you, You feel

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Speaker 1: when somebody love you, and you feel when somebody don't.

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Speaker 1: whether we want to or not. We feel it. We're

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Speaker 1: forced to feel shit sometimes and it we're forced to

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Speaker 1: it never fucking happened. You are not an overthinker. You

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Speaker 1: like a man. You want something out of a man,

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Speaker 1: and y'all been dealing with each other, fought too fucking long,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, for him to still be talking about No,

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Speaker 1: it's still I just got out of something and it

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Speaker 1: will get the fuck out of my house. How about that?

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Speaker 1: You can still be a friend from a distance. You

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Speaker 1: ain't got to live with me. Get the fuck out

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Speaker 1: maybe you'll say it nicer, because that is your friend

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Please remove yourself from

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Speaker 1: my home. We cannot fuck like that, you know, unless

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Speaker 1: you want to keep on fucking him or you know,

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Speaker 1: having sex or whatever you want to do with this man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we have sexual needs as well. But

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have access to me like that. He wouldn't,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And then he didn't already been around your

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Speaker 1: you said you don't see him cheating, you ain't need

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Speaker 1: no relationship. So if you go cheat, that ain't cheating.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what he wants to be able

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Speaker 1: to use. That's why he will not. He will not

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Speaker 1: tie you down, you know. That's why he won't lock

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Speaker 1: know what, Let's go ahead and make this happen. He

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Speaker 1: still got something that he don't want to miss. He

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Speaker 1: I've seen this a lot, and you ain't the first

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Speaker 1: God bless them. You know what I'm saying. But I

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Speaker 1: really feel like he too fucking close for comfort to

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Speaker 1: not be your man. You understand, he's too built into

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Speaker 1: your life. How the fuck you live with you? Is

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Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. Ain't none of this shit free?

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Speaker 1: If you ain't paying me with your love and some money,

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Speaker 1: is struggling, If you're the friend that's struggling and I'm

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Speaker 1: you want have to bounce, baby, so I do. Really,

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Speaker 1: I advise you to don't walk, baby, run, put on

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Speaker 1: them fucking skates, and roll a fuck on out. Because

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with mister man over there, and that's

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Speaker 1: just that. I don't want you to keep me updated,

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Speaker 1: keep me updated, bab, because that just pissed me off.

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Speaker 1: If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and

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Speaker 1: then we'll be right back and moving on. Oh we

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Speaker 1: got an audio, very good. Here we go, yess.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to send like fifty eleven voice messages and

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm just coming off too nervous,

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Speaker 3: but I got to kick it to you, like I

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Speaker 3: feel like how I know you, And that might sound crazy,

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Speaker 3: but just let me go off of what I'm makes

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Speaker 2: AnyWho.

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Speaker 3: My name is, Like I said, I've been living a

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Speaker 3: board to move for twenty six years now.

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Speaker 2: I moved in.

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Speaker 3: Conkysville and I was probably one of fifty to sixty

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Speaker 3: black kids out there. And I met someone from Philly.

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Speaker 3: Her name is David and she was seventeen. She's three

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Speaker 3: years older than me, and me and her Insley became

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Speaker 3: like sisters. And during that time I met her younger

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Speaker 2: Her name is Brice.

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Speaker 3: Me and Day are close, like, that's my bitch, my

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Speaker 3: sister right now, her contact has a heart with a key.

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Speaker 2: That's my bitch.

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Speaker 3: I am in love with my friend, like as a

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Speaker 2: So we planned recently two weeks.

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Speaker 2: We up at the avenue. We spent two sixty three.

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Speaker 2: I took twenty one shots. I'll never forget.

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Speaker 1: God damn bitch.

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Speaker 2: In the midst of all of us were sitting there crying.

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Speaker 3: I have also a cousin named Bri. Both of our cousins,

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Speaker 2: You probably be like, you know what, fuck it shit

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Speaker 2: And I said, damn, you don't even look like which

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Speaker 3: It would be so funny if it's a family secret

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Speaker 2: I did not. I was oblivious. I was drunk as hell. Wow.

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Speaker 3: He caused me the next day and said, why did

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Speaker 2: Although you didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Always speculated that it's really her mother because she always

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Speaker 3: If I had known that, I would have never said

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Speaker 2: And even he told me and she said, yeah, I've never.

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Speaker 3: Seen pictures of them pregnant and there was never a

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Speaker 3: Did treat me a lot different. She was a little snappy.

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Speaker 3: After we're leeve, we're leaving, we're heading out, and she.

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Speaker 2: Said, you know what, it's just so crazy how that

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Speaker 3: And I said, we're bitch. She said, your cousin. I said,

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Speaker 3: we're cousin, she said, and then that's when the fumes started,

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Speaker 3: because why are you bringing out my cousin. It was

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Speaker 3: I'm okay, let's talk about this. I said, why are

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Speaker 2: And that's when I lost it.

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Speaker 1: Chest I mushed this bitch.

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Speaker 3: I took my shit off. I said, let's fight. We

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Speaker 3: but my brain is sacred to me. Ten years ago,

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Speaker 3: She was in a coma for six months. Out of

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Speaker 2: Was missing me. But anyway, during that time I was suicidal.

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Speaker 3: Saved my life just so when that situation happened with

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Speaker 2: I'm still ready for war because I.

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Speaker 3: Feel like I could never forgive for bringing up my cousin.

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Speaker 2: Unless I liked the bitch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, as it was all.

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Speaker 3: my actions. That is not a threat to me that

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Speaker 3: I could have easily whipped as any other time. That

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Speaker 3: she is a state official. If someone would have recorded

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Speaker 3: that and posted the online, she could have lost her job.

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Speaker 3: I get that, I get it, and one day I

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Speaker 2: But are you checking your you know what? Okay? So

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Speaker 2: just my question is what should I do now? What

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Speaker 2: you savage, because I loved I love this, I love.

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Speaker 3: You death and I'm actually hurt and the fact that

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Speaker 3: I don't speak to her anymore.

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Speaker 2: So would you, Savage? Like, what should I do? I'm everywhere,

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Speaker 1: You know what, girl, It's fine, It's okay, man, hold up,

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Speaker 1: hold up. I know the ship getting good. But listen

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Speaker 1: person too, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes we can

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Speaker 1: And I'm afraid that your friend she ain't like you.

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Speaker 1: She cut from a different cloth. Obviously. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. What you did, you were not wrong for.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could have handled it another way, but you

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Speaker 1: then liquor was involved. Nothing happened that day that I

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Speaker 1: She lied about fucking the nigga, Well, she lied to

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Speaker 1: ass beat. Now, Yeah, that's what happened. When you lie

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Speaker 1: later on you want to get drunk and admit it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about brag about it. Bit you getting dragged,

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Speaker 1: and you should not be dragged as the person who

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Speaker 1: did well within your right what you thought was right

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Speaker 1: you up with one hand. Bitch, you better learn how

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Speaker 1: self defense classes because your mouth can't like, your mouth

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Speaker 1: gotta match your hands, you feel me. If you're a

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Speaker 1: your mouth. You can't be the rock with your mouth,

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Speaker 1: but Kevin Hart with the hands, like what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing here? What are we doing? It

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Speaker 1: has to match up. If you know you can't fight,

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Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. It is what it is. Unless

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Speaker 1: go cry woof. And then you got people calling me

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Speaker 1: that's close to me. I honestly feel like because this

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Speaker 1: like kind of came at she was like, you're coming

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Speaker 1: in defense of this bitch when I'm clearly telling you

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Speaker 1: She knew she had that fucking job, she knew she

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Speaker 1: was a state official when she told you, she fucked

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Speaker 1: that bitch's nigga, and she's still fucking up to this day, fucking.

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, she told you that she

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Speaker 1: got what the fuck she asks for. It is what

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Speaker 1: it is, because I know she didn't expect for you

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Speaker 1: to start talking shit about your cousin where like the

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Speaker 1: fuck girl. And then that's not a big flex cause

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Speaker 1: the who the fuck one day nigga from high school?

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Speaker 1: Maybe that shit don't mean to and I'm still fucking them, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure your cousin is is somewhere with

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Speaker 1: somebody else that's treating her right and not fucking another

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Speaker 1: bitch behind her back. I mean, if he is, then okay,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying your cousin John Dodge the big

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Speaker 1: bullet because she ain't with that niggays and she ain't

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Speaker 1: with that, nigga no more so it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I really feel like you should reach out, reach back

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Speaker 1: out to your friend. I think I should go somewhere

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Speaker 1: quiet and come and talk about it and express your hurt.

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Speaker 1: Don't make it about you want how to be your

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Speaker 1: friend again or you want us to get back to it.

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Speaker 1: I want us to get back though how he was

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Speaker 1: and all that. No, express your hurt, but express it

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Speaker 1: in a way so she can hear you. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and she can understand and she can listen.

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Speaker 1: And it depends on her response. If she gets defensive,

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Speaker 1: you're not being a friend. You're not being a friend.

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Speaker 1: She shouldn't make it about herself, you know. If she

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Speaker 1: try to flip it, make it about yeah, but you,

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Speaker 1: but you, that's not a friend. You and your friend

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Speaker 1: has grown apart, and that happens too. I understand you

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Speaker 1: love these girls, man, but like some people grow apart,

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Speaker 1: some things are not important to others that are important

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Speaker 1: to you, you know, And I always have a thing

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Speaker 1: you know where I say, if you grow past your friends,

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Speaker 1: it is time to go your separate way. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you can't fuck with them the more. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you can love people from a distance. You just have

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Speaker 1: to evolve. And if your friends ain't grown with you

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Speaker 1: and evolving, not everybody don't evolve the same. But if

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Speaker 1: they're not evolving or even following a path or you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to better themselves, the goal is to always be better,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying in some type of way,

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Speaker 1: just personally for yourself as an individual. If they're not

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Speaker 1: doing that, man, you got to leave some people sometimes.

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Speaker 1: And to me, that friend was being very patty to

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Speaker 1: call you and get on your case about beating that

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Speaker 1: bitch up. So I want you to get back with me,

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Speaker 1: and I need this update. I need this fucking update,

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Speaker 1: all right. And I know I know you left so

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Speaker 1: abruptly with your message, like because you had to. Like

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Speaker 1: you a blunt baby, I'm about to go do the

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Speaker 1: same thing sometimes. That's that is our best therapy. That

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Speaker 1: motherfucking gun jam all right. Just make sure you ain't

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Speaker 1: smoking it out of a backwood, baby, because all heard

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Speaker 1: that fucks your skin up, all right. And we got

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Speaker 1: some great melonin will needed to be touched and tampered

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Speaker 1: with and all fucked up, and just like that we

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Speaker 1: come to the end of yet another carefully reckless episode

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Speaker 1: with Doctor Jess and I'll be fixing your mess each

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Speaker 1: and every Wednesday, and then my deepest paying voice, Pea

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