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I 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: have never seen what just happened in the Dodgers Phillies game. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: The Dodgers lead it right now, three nothing, in the 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: top of the eighth inning, Blake Snell, and you know, 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: the Dodgers' bullpen has been absolutely terrible, trash for the 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: better part of the twenty twenties, for the better part 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: of this season, they've been terrible, and they blew it 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: last night. No hitter for Sho Hao Tani through five. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Bullpen comes in, gives it right up, and they give 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: up home runs, which is their big thing's been gopher 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: balls all year. And the Phillies win a game, They 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: clinch the NL East, and they party on the Dodgers 37 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: field tonight. Blake Snell pitching great right, twelve strikeouts into 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: the top of the set. He gets two outs, and 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: things get a little weird right Harper grounds out the 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: second real Muto flies out, Costillanos walks in there, there's 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: a deep drive clove, Costianos walks and then Kepler walks 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: so now there's runners at first and second. Did you 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: say Kapler? Kepler? Now Gabe Kapler is not involved in 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: this anymore. He's eating really healthy, That's what gab keeper 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: is doing. So he walks back to back guys right, 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: two out, seventh thinning, and Blake Snell's pitch count is 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: getting up there and you can tell here we are. 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: You know, you walk two guys in a row. This 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: is it. So Dave Roberts looks out at his infield 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: and makes the talk motion with his fingers with his hand, going, hey, 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: go out and talk to him to buy time, because 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Alex Vessia is coming in from the bullpen right. So 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: now this is what happens. This is hey, go out 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: and talk to buy Vessi a couple more warm up pitches. 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Then when the umpire says they have to break up, 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: then Dave Roberts comes out to take the pitch out 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: like we see this all the time. So you see 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Roberts and he's got it. He's got his paper in 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: his hand and he does the talk motion, and so 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: the infield all goes in. Nobody says anything because they 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: all know they're there just buying time, waiting for Roberts 62 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to come out. Mookie Bets is just standing there with 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: his arms folded like okay, And you can hear on 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I don't know if there was a 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: little bit like Mookie Bets staring at the dugout, a 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: little bit like you could tell this was not a 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: popular decision because now here comes the bullpen when he's 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: pitched great and the bullpen has sucked. Okay, now again, 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm watching this a couple of times. I want to 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: see it again again. But Bets just standing and you 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: can tell maybe there's some sort of conversation being had 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: on the mound at this point of between the guys 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: about what's happened. Absolutely so Snell is just standing, there's 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: not really saying anything, and Mookie Bets's just standing there 75 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: staring into the dugout. And the umpire comes out to say, okay, 76 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: break it up. Dave Roberts starts coming out of the dugout. 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Now at this point they've told Alex Vessia he's coming 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: into the game. Dave Roberts crosses the line, comes to 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: the mound and the close up of Blake Snell he's 80 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: shaking his head going no, no, no, no, no, not defiantly, 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: but just no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. 82 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: Roberts comes up and I'm reading his lips, and Snell says, 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: I got this, I got it, I got it, and 84 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: Robert says something to him. Snell says, I got it, 85 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: and Robert says okay, and he goes back into the 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: dugout and and Snell gets back on the mound and 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Alex Vessia, who was already coming into he was saying 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: the field, yes, he was nearly. I think he was 89 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: nearly at the clay and he had to turn around 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: and go back in, and you can tell Vessia was pissed. 91 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: He's shaking his head going back to the bullpen, like, 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: now I'm embarrassed because I'm the guy that came into 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: the game, and now Blake Snell has said, no, I'm 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: staying in for this right here, okay, because this is 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: both awesome and really troublesome at the same time, I 96 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: can't wait till. Yeah, it's awesome because now here Dave 97 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: Roberts leaves Blake Snell in, right leaves Blake Snell in, 98 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: and you can see Vessia is upset. You know, the 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: bullpen is like, okay, man, Okay, I get them. We 100 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I've been doing our job. Don't embarrass us like that. 101 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: And Dave Roberts is a really tough spot, because what 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: do I do do I I'm gonna piss off my 103 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: starting pitcher and it's gonna be a scene here on 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the mound. Who's pitched to Jem Yes? Right, because he 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: has been fantastic. He's had actually asked you before all 106 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: this went down? One career complete game, the no hitter 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: that he threw. Yeah, and remember he was famously lifted 108 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: in a World Series game against the Dogs, went went 109 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: to hell. Yes, and the game that one's still swirling 110 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: in his dome as well. So, uh so this is 111 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: what's going on. And Roberts then goes back to the 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: dugout Chavez ravine collapse, goes crazy and Vessie again, VESSI 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: and back like you see him, He's not happy going 114 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: back to the This is not head down, back to 115 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: the bullpen. This is I really got embarrassed right here. Now? 116 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Did he come into work? Now? Obviously the plan was 117 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: to come in and I think Dave Roberts read the 118 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: room on the mound that was I I can't I 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: can't take him out right now, man, I can't take 120 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: him out of this game because there's gonna be a 121 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: mutiny if I do. There'll be an absolute mutiny on 122 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: this team if I go to the bullpen here and 123 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: something bad happens. So he makes he makes a business 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: decision there in the moment to leave Snell in the game. Right, 125 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: what does Snell do? He strikes out, Kemp comes off 126 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: the field and Roberts is the first guy with his 127 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: hands up. Ye had hug Blake's now when he comes, Hey, 128 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: completely my idea, the crown the whole night. Yeah, we're 129 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: all happy, man, We're all happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you 130 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: get the light show and everything. After the big strikeout 131 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: and everything. Dodger's bat in the seventh inning don't get 132 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: a run and Vesia comes in to pitch the top 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: of the eighth inning against the Phillies. Now Otani is 134 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: just homeward for the fourth run of the game. But 135 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: this is the drama where we're at right now, And 136 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: sometimes things can be two things, Okay, because this is both. 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: It could be both great and terrible. Sure, this is 138 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: great because a Blake Snell just became a Dodger and 139 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: He became the guy that everybody wants out there for 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: the first for the game one of whatever playoff is there. 141 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: You go to me, not o'tani, not Kershaw, not glass Now, 142 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: not Sutton, not Cofax, not Jerry Royce. I'm the guy 143 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: in game one. You give me the bleep in baseball, man, 144 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: because I got this. And sometimes a player likes Snell 145 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: when that's his that's his countenance, and that's who he is. 146 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: You give him the ball and get out of the way. 147 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Right So he became a Dodger right there, man is 148 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: he is now everybody's favorite pitcher on the Dodgers right now, Man, 149 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: all this he just brought in all kinds of juice 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: to this team. That's great. The terrible part is, Okay, 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: you just called out your bullpen for sucking. Okay, I 152 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: get that. You don't want to come out and I got, 153 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I got. But now you know the bullpen has baen 154 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: and the bullpen knows they're not been doing their jobs, 155 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: and not have to say, wait a minute, man, we's 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: eating sunflower seeds out here. We don't know. We haven't 157 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: been good. So now you have to navigate. You just 158 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: you your confidence in your starting pitcher, which is great, right, 159 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: but now the bullpen, which you're gonna need in the playoffs. 160 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: You chose your starting pitcher over the bullpen, and Vessia 161 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: was embarrassed because he's out on the field coming and 162 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: you decided to do that right this way again. But 163 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: this is a split this there's no way Dave Roberts 164 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: is coming out to the mound telling Blake Snell, hey, 165 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: are you okay? You may stay in the game. Right 166 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: he had made that decision. No, that's right. You go 167 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: out there talk to him and then I'll come out 168 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: take him out of the game. And that's it. So 169 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: he made that on the fly decision. Now Roberts, as 170 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: great as he is now he's good with the starting pitchers, 171 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: Hey man, you're in the team. Loves him for having that. 172 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: Now he's got to work on the bullpen. And now 173 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: he's got to say, hey, I still love you guys. 174 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: This decision was made right here. But no matter how 175 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: you cut it up, this bullpen knows, okay, man, you 176 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: don't have confidence in me. Now it could wind up 177 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: being great because now they could be this could Sometimes 178 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: you have to piss people off to get them to 179 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: do what you want them to do. But how is 180 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: that gonna play like that's gonna be the big That's 181 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: why things can be both great and terrible. This whole 182 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: thing could be great, but this can be terrible too, 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: depending on how the bullpen reacts this. It could be 184 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: the thing that spurs them on and says, hey, now 185 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: look at his lights out Dodger Bullpen and everybody and 186 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs get really boring. Or it could be they 187 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: don't have confidence in me. Man. It's hard to go 188 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: out there and do and do my job when I 189 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: know that's not the case, When I know the next 190 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: time I go out there, a starting pitcher is gonna 191 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: shake Dave Roberts off and he's gonna stay with Kershaw, 192 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: or he's gonna stay with Otan, he's gonna stay with 193 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: somebody else, because now this precedent has been set for it. 194 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I really thought Kershaw would be the first guy to 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: ever do that. Man, Kershaw's got to say the snell. Hey, Man. 196 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Usually wait till I'm in the dugout and Dave sends 197 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: somebody up and I say, no, I'm good, I'm going 198 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: back out there. You did that to him in front 199 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: of everybody. Man, No, but that's the thing. 200 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: I think we've seen it with Kershaw more. 201 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: Suddenly the stare down into the dugout before like I've seen, 202 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: we've seen those circumstances, We've never had it to where 203 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: Dave's actually got past the top step and gotten onto 204 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: the playing field. Like so this has a bunch of 205 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: elements to it, as you say, all right, now you've 206 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: got Vessia who look, he took orders, go out, start 207 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: making the walk and gets turned around. Dave Roberts, who's 208 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: always criticized for going by the formula, going by the 209 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: book and whatever the analytics are saying in a situation, 210 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: in this case, one hundred and seven pitches, two on 211 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: two out, he got back to back base runners after 212 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: the first two out looked like it was going to 213 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: be an easy seventh. Instead, now we got the tying 214 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: run coming to the plate and he's able to convince 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Dave to back off. Huge moment for Snell. To your point, 216 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: he really became a Dodger in this moment. He's had 217 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: a pretty good season for what he's been available for. 218 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: Right this is only his tenth start of the year. 219 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: High priced acquisition something we talked about a little bit 220 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: of handwringing given his history, a couple of zy youngs 221 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of injury and miss times and miss circumstance. Well, 222 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: here he comes up with a monster effort on that 223 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: five pitch strikeout of Kemp to finish the inning, and 224 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: the place absolutely explodes. But it's all kinds of It 225 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: was almost like we were talking about the natural yesterday. 226 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Did someone just blow up a transformer that we've got issues? 227 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: So it really an electrifying moment, but one that you 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: stand back on, Wow, Dave. Dave walked back to the dugout. 229 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: Snell was able to argue his case because he's certainly 230 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: a guy that has been a lightning rod through his career. 231 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: Go back to him, uh, you know, talking during the 232 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: COVID years and and everything with comments that he had 233 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: as a gamer and whatever he was doing. But in 234 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: this moment, I'm I'm just curious in that bullpen. You 235 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: know how this goes over and what the the process was, 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: and I think we know what it is like. All right. 237 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: It was preordained that Snell was not to get an 238 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to plead his case, but the look of Mookie 239 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Betts and everybody. 240 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: Gathered around that mound. They needed this in a big way, right. 241 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: They were joking before the show and as we were 242 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: sitting in the back min hell, even on the Dodgers 243 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, state flagship station, they were kind of JOKINGU, 244 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: it'supposed to rain tonight in Los Angeles, wondering if they'd 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: get a great start out of snow, and then that 246 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: these skies would open with a three or four nothing lead. 247 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Well it was three to nothing. Rain hasn't hit yet, 248 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: But I mean this now becomes what potentially is a 249 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: lightning rod. I can't wait to hear Dave Roberts post game. 250 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: But for Blake Snell, I mean the demonstrative way that 251 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: he shaking his head saying no, and then when he 252 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: came off the mound after that strikeout, Come on, if 253 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: you were looking for juice from this team that wasn't 254 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: another show hey Otani home run which he then hit, 255 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: but you were looking for something that wasn't named Otani 256 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: during this sequence and you finally found it. Yeah, I mean, really, 257 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: this is I've never seen this before. And look, sometimes 258 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: moments can be both right, it can be and it's 259 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: weird that it really depends on how this is spun 260 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: after the game and where things are at because the 261 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: big thing, look, look the big thing the bullpen is like, hey, okay, 262 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: we understand we're not doing it. You called us out. 263 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: That was kind of crappy, right. It depends how like 264 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: cause it's here's the thing in life, so so many 265 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: things are shaped by reactions to actions instead of the 266 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: actions themselves. You could have somebody do something and you 267 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: could have a reaction to it that paints it in 268 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: a positive light, or reaction to it the paints and 269 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: negative light. It depends on how you react. Doesn't change 270 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: the act itself, but how people react to it is 271 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: is going to paint how this goes. Right, This was 272 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: something where Blake Snell did what he did, stayed in 273 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: the game, got the out. They gonna win this game. Now, 274 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: this could be This could be portrayed as a big 275 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: watershed moment for the Dodgers and Blake Snell being the 276 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: emotional leader, the true number one that the Dodgers have, 277 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: and it could be agreement, or it could be one 278 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: of those things where behind closed doors, the players are 279 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: upset and the relief pitchers are upset. Because this is 280 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: a precedent that was set that maybe this could happen again. 281 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Snell's already done it, Otani. I could easily see Otani 282 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: doing it. I could easily see Kershaw doing it in 283 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I mean this is now, Am I 284 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna go out there? Am I gonna get embarrassed? Again? Like? 285 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: It depends on the reaction to it. And it's weird 286 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: that And I know that I'm getting real psychological in this, 287 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm, you know, some sort of psychologist. 288 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: But really, the the the absolute of an action sometimes 289 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: is not shaped until the reaction of it is known. 290 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: And that's and that's a situation right here. Yeah, I 291 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: Vessia hadn't come through the door, right If we get 292 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: the overhead shot and he's walking from the you know, 293 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: his last warm up before coming on to the field, 294 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: and then turns around, doesn't matter the fact that he was. However, 295 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: many steps into the outfield before he gets turned around 296 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: becomes a bit of an issue. So now we have 297 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: to decide is at the bigger end of trust with 298 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: a capital T of Blake Snell saying I bleep and 299 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: got this, or is it the mistrust of the bullpen. 300 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: You have to decide which has the larger coefficient in 301 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: this balancing act. And for Dave Roberts, I am going 302 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: to sell the hell out of the fact that I 303 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: trusted my guy who said he needed this moment, that 304 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: he wanted this moment for this team, which basically it 305 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Instead it was you're not doing it. This was Snell 306 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers on and their body language on the mount. 307 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: You are not taking him out of the game, right. 308 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: I really think mookie Bets just stands staring into the 309 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: dugout the entire time. That was a thing too for him, 310 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: and for him a big deal because the last couple 311 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: of weeks he's finally, for lack of a better phraseology, 312 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: he's earned his keep because he had a rough year 313 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: and whatever is going on outside right he had the 314 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: illness back in Japan and everything else. The last month 315 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: he's been mookie Bets again. So he's also feeling emboldened 316 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: because he's been carrying his weight and they need him 317 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: to every bit of this stretch run. So just an 318 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: absolute watershed moment and a little bit of a fun 319 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: angle as this game comes towards the close. Man Wow, 320 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: And to explain my thought better of how the the 321 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: the absoluteness of an action depends on the reaction. I'll 322 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: use this as example, a good phraseology. Put that on 323 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: a shirt? Is that okay? 324 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 4: So? 325 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: And I'll use the Jets as an example. Aaron Glenn 326 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: gets the job as a Jets head coach, and they 327 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: want they tell Aaron Rodgers to fly across Gee so 328 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: they can tell him we don't want you anymore. Okay. 329 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Now that's the that's the exact absolute of that situation. 330 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: And on a shirt they might as well said we 331 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: hate you right right away. 332 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: So here is so, here is the Jets called Aaron Rodgers. 333 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: He came in that a face to face meeting with him, 334 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: and they told him they were going in a different direction. 335 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: Now that's the story. Was that going to be a 336 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: positive story for the Jets or a negative story for 337 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: the Jets? Aaron Rodgers it was his reaction because he 338 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: could have said, hey, I like the fact that the 339 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: Jets thought enough of me to call me in, to 340 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: come all the way to tell me to my face, right, 341 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: because that's a you know, how do you break up 342 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: with somebody? Some people like doing it over text, some 343 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: people want to do it in person. So Aaron Rodgers 344 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: could have said that, but instead he said, they make 345 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: me fly allway to New York, tell me they don't 346 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: want me anymore. I didn't need to get on that plane, which, okay, 347 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: I get it. I get both sides of it. But 348 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: that was that's that's this story. I get both sides 349 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: of it. I get that, Hey, so and so broke 350 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: up with me. What do you do? He texted me, Well, 351 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: at least he didn't make you go meet him for 352 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: drinks and then do it to your faces embarrassing or 353 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: oh man, that guy didn't he didn't make he didn't 354 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: do it to you face to face. I have no 355 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: respect for that guy. Sometimes the actions that are absolute, 356 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: it depends on the reaction. And that's why this is 357 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: going to be so interesting following the game to see 358 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: exactly what happens after this and how the Dodgers were 359 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: able to spin this, because Dave Roberts clearly it was 360 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: a spur of the moment decision, and he read the 361 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: room and said, yep, okay, you stay in Snell. I'm 362 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: going back. Don't worry about Alex. We'll get you next inning. 363 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: You'll be all good. Yeah, because you look at Bessie 364 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: has only appeared in three September games. Gave it up 365 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: in his appearance on Monday inning pitch to hit the 366 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: iarn run, the home run allowed, et cetera. 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Yeah, buddy, 417 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: we'll have more on the Dodgers Phillies drama coming up 418 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: in a few minutes. The Dodgers deeming it safe enough 419 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: for ten Or Scott to pitch right now, Well they 420 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: got it outside of a slam. Yeah, yeah, right, because 421 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: they scored two runs to make it five nothing to 422 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: go into the night. So I was like, all right, 423 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: it can only get so bad if he loads him up. 424 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: It's one swing and then they still have to score another. 425 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Dodgers lead the Phillies five to nothing. Top of the 426 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: ninth inning, two outs to runnerun Again, we'll have more 427 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: on the Blake Snell, Dave Roberts, Alex Vessia. Ooy when 428 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: I say I'm staying in a game, mo, Im'm staying 429 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: in a game drama. Anybody that had ever said anything 430 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: positive about Blake Snell though and his arrival, See, that's 431 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: the guy I was talking about, Like, Yeah, where the 432 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: hell's that guy been? Man, that's the guy. Let's just 433 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: celebrate the fact he guys a little late to the party. 434 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: But he got he showed up. He shows up. You 435 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: forgot that he was supposed to bring, brought whatever is 436 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: supposed to bring. He got that, you know, two buck 437 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: chuck and he showed up here with some chuck. Uh. 438 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: But you know, it's been a minute since we got 439 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: a big Bill Belichick Jordan Hudson controversy. All the controversy 440 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: was the beginning of the summer. Uh. Coming off of 441 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: the interview with CBS that Bill Belichick did, uh where 442 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson shut down. Conversation about how they met became 443 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: this whole big blank sandwich uh for everyone. And and 444 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: Belichick's future with North Carolina was he even a coach. 445 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: There was he going to even get to the beginning 446 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: of the season because you know, they didn't like the 447 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: fact that Jordan Hudson's running around doing a whole bunch 448 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: of things, c seed on all his emails. Right, we 449 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: know the drama. But it's been a minute. Yeah, I've 450 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: been waiting a couple of weeks. Yeah it's been quiet. 451 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: But now we have a new one. And this really 452 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: is outside of Bill Belichick because the story breaks earlier 453 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: today Dancing with the Stars that premiered its latest season 454 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: a night ago. Oh boy, New York posts a bunch 455 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: of different places have this story that Jordan Hudson was 456 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: in negotiations to join Dancing with the Stars, but things 457 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: didn't work out because, according to The Daily Mail and 458 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: other sources, she wanted creative control. Quote, Jordan was meant 459 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: to be on the show and they were pushing for 460 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: it for some time. The producers knew they struck gold 461 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: getting her, but they couldn't get on the same page. 462 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: According to reports, she wanted to push the angle away 463 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: from her and Bill Belichick's relationship in their age difference. 464 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: She's twenty four, and so she backed out very close 465 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: to the of the of the first filming of the 466 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: first episode. In fact, there were some interviews Derrek Huff 467 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: would judge on the show. Previous dancer on the show 468 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: said that, yeah, castmember backed out and things would have 469 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: been messy if they stayed and they had to get 470 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: somebody very quickly. Who jumped in Now, Derek Huff didn't 471 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: say who it was, so okay, So now here is 472 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson, who could have been on Dancing with the Stars, 473 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: but because couldn't gain control of this storyline, backed out 474 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: of it. Right now, a little different conversation on this right, 475 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: different converse because it needs to be a different conversation 476 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: other than what is she doing? She's ruining Bill Belichick 477 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's embarrassing to see him. He's in 478 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: his seventies, she's twenty four. Yes, all of the stuff 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: we have this is all very familiar terrain we have 480 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: trot over. Right. Meanwhile, I'm going through going who the 481 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: hell is still going on Dancing with the Stars, And 482 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm going through the cast. Yeah. Eventually, eventually Steve de 483 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Sager will be on Dancing with Nice Hey. Elaine Hendrix 484 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: is in there, though, so Elaine Boosler will also be honest. Wow, 485 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: hey kids, look up Elaine Boozler, Jason real question, Yeah, 486 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: I got you want to be on tight shit, I'll 487 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: write your letter. 488 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,239 Speaker 5: That was not my question. Oh okay, go ahead, but 489 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 5: thank you. 490 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 491 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 5: You had to be on a reality TV show? 492 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: What one? 493 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: Oh the Male? 494 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: I Love the Mall. That was my favorite show. Mole's 495 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: been dead forever. Can give me something more time? Anderson 496 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Cooper hosted The Mole. That was a big dead He 497 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: became a big star after hosting The Mall. It's a 498 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: long time and they had celebrity Mole and like Corbyn 499 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Burnston and Steven Baldwin and Ahmad Rashad were on it. 500 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: Like all these people I want to and these people 501 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: I'd love to meet. Man the Mole. Absolutely the Mole, 502 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely the Moll. The hell year was that was? That 503 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: was in the early mid two thousands. Yeah, absolutely, all 504 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: the Mole. I'd I'd love to be on two thousand 505 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: and one. Yeah, that's my fau love. That's one thing. Wow, 506 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: that show. 507 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: At this point, like The Traders and go Hang with 508 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: Alan coming that. 509 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, picking come on something that's been on more 510 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: than like eight seconds. I mean, that's already like a 511 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: season six, then you had a bunch of euro versions, 512 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: like it's all over. The euro versions don't count. Okay, No, 513 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: if the six seasons, that's fine. Now, Survivor wouldn't work 514 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: because I I it't end up being Lord of the Flies. 515 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I'd lose my mind. No, or I'd be on a 516 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: I'd be on a cooking reaction. No, that's kind of 517 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: where I was head, Like I'd like to run a 518 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: food truck. Okay, convinced Tyler Florence that that my stuff's brilliant, 519 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: travel the glow, all right, Okay, that's cool, all right, 520 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: But I'd also probably end up killing one of the 521 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: two people that were on the. 522 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: Truck with me. 523 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: And we have a fatality here on this set because 524 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: Harmon has decided to so she's not on Dancing with 525 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: the Stars. And this is where she needs an intervention, okay, 526 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: because clearly she's choosing this fast line with Bill Belichick 527 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: to further her own stardom. Right, that's what we've seen 528 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: out of this. Right. Sure, she's got to understand that 529 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: her power is limited. Okay, she's dating Bill Belichick in 530 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: the pantheon of college football, and certain yeah, he's got 531 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: a lot of sway. But if you're you, if you're 532 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: gonna gonna take this and use it to further yourself, 533 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: you have to understand that your powers of influence and 534 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: what you can demand are limited. In sports, you're a 535 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: big story, right, but you're not that big a story 536 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: where Hey, your behavior and what you think you can 537 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: do narrative wise, everybody's gonna capitulate too. Yeah, cloud versus 538 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: cloud absolutely. 539 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 540 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes can do whatever he wants to in the 541 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: NFL and everybody will capitulate to him. Caitlin Clark can 542 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: do whatever she wants to in basketball. People will capitulate 543 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: her because she's that biggest star. You're a big star, 544 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: and I'm sure every she is filled with reads what 545 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: what's said about her on the internet, sees what is 546 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: blogged about her. Yeah, I'm a big star. But understand, 547 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: your powers of influence aren't that great to the point 548 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: where now here are a couple of places that have 549 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: told you, yeah, you don't have that kind of influence. 550 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Hard Notch with the Patriot, with the North Carolina. Yeah, 551 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: you're not gonna tell us where we're going with our 552 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: with our narratives. So yeah, we're not you're not gonna 553 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do this hard notch with with North 554 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: Carolina football, Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, but I don't 555 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: want it to be there. Yeah, not so much. You're 556 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: on You're on the show for one reason, and if 557 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: you want to use that as a springboard to to 558 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: open you up to doing other things, that's great. But 559 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: right now, your relationship with Bill Belichick is why people 560 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: care about you and what they're interested in. You have 561 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: to be able to feed this for a while longer 562 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: if you want to break out of it and then 563 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: be a star in your own right right now, it's 564 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: not where Okay, I'm dating Bill Belichick. Now I should 565 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: be able to call things and no, you can't do that. 566 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: You see that. Now you have pulled power plays a 567 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: couple of different times and guess what, Yeah, I've been 568 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: able to win it. You have to. You couldn't win 569 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the interview on CBS because they used we're not getting 570 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: into this right, They used all that. You couldn't even 571 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: get that taken out, say don't use that part of 572 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: the interview. No, they use that. So now it's three 573 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: power plays you have pulled and you have lost all 574 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: three of them. Now, if you want to use this 575 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: to become a star, you have to understand that, yes, 576 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: you're a big deal in the sports world, but you 577 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: don't have that unlimited power yet. So if you want 578 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: to do these things like Dancing with the Stars or 579 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: increase your Q rating on Hard Knocks with North Carolina, 580 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: this is what you have to do to do that 581 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: other stuff. Right, Like like certain people who are celebrities, 582 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: if you're Will Ferrell, right, you have to keep doing 583 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: comedy movies in order to keep doing drama because no 584 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: one's going to just give you drama movies all the 585 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: time because you're a funny. But you could strike a 586 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: deal with a company, with a production company that says hey, 587 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: or with a studio that says, hey, I'll do these 588 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: two comedies, but I'm gonna do this big drama and 589 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna okay. So he has to understand that if 590 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: I want to be taken seriously as an actor, I 591 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: have to keep doing comedies so I get the chances 592 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: to do dramatic roles. She's got to understand that she's 593 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: got to play this up and this is what people 594 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: are interested. She's got to be able to be okay 595 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: with that if she wants to do other things in 596 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: the future. So just a different way to look at 597 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: it for her. With what she's done the last few months. 598 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the bigger thing with when you go 599 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: to Dancing with the Stars. 600 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna claim that I could pick the 601 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: people from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives out of 602 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: a lineup, Okay, but they have a television audience. They 603 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: have a consistent pull on However, many millions of people 604 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: watch that. However, many people subscribe to their TikTok, Instagram, 605 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: insert social media sphere here. For her, it all begins 606 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: and ends, at least to my thinking, with the association 607 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick. Has she done. 608 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: Anything else that makes her stand alone? 609 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not doing copious researches on her at 610 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: this moment, but that's my understanding. How are you famous 611 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: the old guys with me? So unless the old guy's 612 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: showing up in the studio in a sequence suit and 613 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: spinning around like he's outing freaking John, you got no clout. 614 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Nobody cares dating Bill Belichick. Okay, how do I watch 615 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: that every day? I don't. I can go watch the 616 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: movies of Corey Feldman or I can watch Boy Meets 617 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: World with Danielle Fischel. I can go watch Baron Davis 618 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: play basketball, or have the old owner of the Clippers 619 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: berating him on the sidelines back in the day. If 620 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: I can pull that old footage and go on and 621 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: on Robert Irwin, I can watch his latest Conservation episodes 622 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: and plenty of old footage of his old man hunting downiles, 623 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Hudson, She's got nothing. Yeah, you 624 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: don't have a cell on your own without him attached 625 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: at your hip. So it's a losing proposition. And the 626 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: fact that it went down that far. I want to 627 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: know how many appearances that Bill Belichick was supposed to make, 628 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: because that had to be in the contract for it 629 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: to get past the first conversation, exit out about a 630 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: Fresco exit swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Time Now 631 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports. 632 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: For the guy who once waved off people coming into 633 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: the Updates studio, wanted to stay in, continue to work, 634 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: just like Blake Snell. It's Martin Wiz get out of 635 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: here to Seger go home Hays Steve. 636 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: Major League Baseball, The Yankees in the first AL wildcarst 637 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: but they beat the Twins ten to five. The Guardians 638 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 4: beat the Tigers ford and nothing. Tigers have lost five 639 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 4: of their last six. Guardians two and a half back 640 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: of the final AAR wildcard spot, which is occupied by 641 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: Boston in Seattle. After the Astros beat the Rangers five 642 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: to two, Red Sox beat the A's five to four 643 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 4: in extra innings in an absolut leage. The Padres beat 644 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: the Mets seven to four. San Francisco over Arizona five 645 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: to one. In the Reds beat the Cardinals six to two. 646 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 4: That makes the Diamondbacks a game and a half back 647 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: for the final NR wildcard spot. Reds and Giants two 648 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: games back. Dodgers beat the Phillies five to nothing. 649 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: And the WNBA. 650 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 4: Playoffs, the Mercury beat the Liberty eighty six to sixty 651 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: of Lisa Thomas led Phoenix with twenty eight points. The 652 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 4: best of three series now tied one apiece. Minnesota beat 653 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: Golden State seventy five to seventy four. Minnesota advances through 654 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: the first round two games to none. Golden State making 655 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: the playoffs in their first year of existence. Also making 656 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 4: the playoffs, the Chicago Cubs. They clinched the playoff first 657 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 4: since the first time since twenty twenty after beating the 658 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: Pirates Washington d C. The City Council voted to approve 659 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: a three point eight billion with a B dollar plan 660 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 4: to build a new stadium for the Commanders in Southeast 661 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: DC on the current RFA Stadium sites. Stadium set to 662 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: open in twenty thirty. Commando's quarterback Jaden and Daniels miss 663 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 4: practice today with a sprain need that Head coach Dan 664 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: Quinn said the earliest Daniels could practice is Friday forty nine. 665 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 4: Coach Kyle Shannan said Brock perty limited in practice Wednesday, 666 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 4: had a chance to play in Week three against Arizona 667 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 4: despite a toe injury and his shoulder injury. Jets quarterback 668 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 4: Justin Field rud out of Week three's matchup against the Bucks. 669 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: He's got a concussion. We saw Khalil mack injer his 670 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: left elbow on Monthery Night Football. The Chargers putting him 671 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: on IR but expect mac to return at some point 672 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: this season. And Patriots cornerback Christia Gonzalez working back from 673 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: that preseason hamstring injury he suffered. He did practice on Wednesday. 674 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thanks Martin, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon 675 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up night. Look, 676 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: we'll get into what went on with the Dodgers and 677 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: the Phillies coming up in a few minutes. But straight ahead, 678 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe what the steaks are. 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Catch us in 696 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: all our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to 697 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search 698 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio in the app. Stream us live all day, 699 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: every day. Be sure to select Fox Sports Radio is 700 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: one of your presets in the iHeart app, so it'll 701 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: always pop up at the top of your screen. So 702 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: lock it in and rip the knob off. Take me 703 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: to the chorus. So here we are now less than 704 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: twenty four hours from now, we'll be breaking down a 705 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: huge Bills victory. Are the Bills and the Dolphins on 706 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football? Are the Bills the team to beat 707 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: in the AFC eight seven? I'm gonna say tooth it. 708 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: First thing? Is this really knowing there's been bigger point spreads. Okay, Yeah, 709 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: If the Dolphins beat the Bills tomorrow night, it would 710 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: be the biggest upset in the NFL of the twenty twenties. Right, 711 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: There's been other games that were fourteen seventeen points, Like 712 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: we talked about them earlier. But these were just bad 713 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: teams beating good teams. This is a Dolphins team that 714 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: has gone through Week one where they decide to not 715 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: show up for the game, and you know they're going 716 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: to break this team up and everybody's going to be 717 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: gone Week two in a game they should be unbeatable 718 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: in playing at home at one o'clock in September when 719 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: they've won like eighty percent of their games in NFL history, 720 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: and they lose to the Patriots, things are bad, man, 721 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: and they're so bad. If they win this game in 722 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo on Thursday night, if they win this game, it's 723 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: the biggest NFL upset of the twenty twenties. Yeah, I'll 724 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: stipulate to potentially being prisoner of the moment, but given 725 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: where we are in the pantheon of the the NFL 726 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: hallmarks and the season that we are through two weeks, yeah, 727 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: there's a lot of potential fallout to this that on 728 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: the Dolphin side is catastrophic. For the Bills, It's kind 729 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: of like the you know, when you drop a game 730 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: in a week. I was like, ah, you'll be fine. Yeah, 731 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: try even the Chiefs after two games, like, well, they 732 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: played two really good teams. Yeah, eh, they're the Chiefs. 733 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: They'll be fine. But this one becomes maybe a little 734 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: bit of an eyebrow raiser for McDermott more than anything else, 735 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: given their failures to run through in the playoffs. But 736 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: it's it's more the all right, can Mike McDaniel rally them? 737 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Is that the conversation we then have to happen. You 738 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: win one for Mike and everything's happy and bad. But 739 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: because look at the comment you had from Tua earlier 740 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: this week, like it sounded like a guy that was 741 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: ready to throw everybody out of the locker room. And 742 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: that's your quarterback. Now. Here's the other part of Tomorrow 743 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: night is that we talk about this a lot. You 744 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: could lose forty four to ten Sunday at one o'clock 745 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: and it's a bad game and we move on. But 746 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: whatever happens on Monday and Thursday night is magnified times 747 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: three times five. If the Dolphins, who are in such 748 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: incredibly bad shape and have been embarrassed and not showing 749 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: up the first Cup like that's a big thing, is 750 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: not showing up, this tells you that n tuned Mike 751 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: McDaniel out. And what's really happening right now. They feel 752 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: like they've they've quit on the season. You know the 753 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: two is gonna be on a new team next year. 754 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill will be gone at the deadline. This is 755 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. If the Bills beat the Dolphins 756 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: big tomorrow night, I keep saying forty four to ten. 757 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: Wantch you be forty four ten the Bills beat the 758 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins big tomorrow night. Mike McDaniel's not the coach of 759 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: the Dolphins for their next game. There's no real time 760 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: to say, well, we'll do it at the bye. Their 761 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: bye is week twelve. I know there's not been a 762 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: lot of talking, well, McDaniel's in immediate trouble. I think 763 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 1: everybody seems to know, okay, that he's kind of circling 764 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: the drain. But when things happen on a Thursday night 765 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: that are really bad, they have ramifications. And you talk 766 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: about a three week run for the Dolphins to start 767 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: the season of being zero to three, where you're flat 768 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: for week one, you're embarrassingly lose a game that should 769 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: have been a near a near rubber stamp win. In 770 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: week two, and you go in front of national television, 771 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: you get and you get crushed on Thursday night. Yeah, 772 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow night's gonna wind up being the last day. Mike 773 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: McDaniel's coaches the Miami Dolphins. No, I see, I find 774 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: him too much fun. I'll write a letter on his 775 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I'll write a letter on his back. Oh 776 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: I got a letter. I was gonna fire you, but 777 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: I got a letter from Mike Harmon. 778 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 3: He said it was better for business if you stay. 779 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: Stuff wasn't really spelled right, and there was a lot 780 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: of bad capitalization and some syntax errors, but he wants 781 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: you to stay. And then he wrote in like cause 782 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: it's a whole paragraph saying why do you have to go? 783 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: And Greer gets to keep his job. So I decided 784 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: to fire both of you. 785 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 5: Jason Harmon he spoke with. 786 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: Some logic for some reason, and I liked his rationale 787 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: careers we're built out. Greer was like, wait a minute, 788 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: just because he wrote a letter, I wasn't on the 789 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: chopping block for that's what are you doing. It was 790 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: a two page letter with a lot of receipts. Two 791 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: page letter sinceeriously Mike Harmon Northwestern class of nineteen ninety six, 792 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: ninety five, But sure, no, ninety five there and then 793 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: take my Santa Clara NBA and Fo't we'll add that now. 794 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: The relationship was that big year for them, right, and 795 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: I graduated right before it. Yeah, congratulations. I had the 796 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: team that where the guys were on the take. Oh 797 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: oh right, I had the ninety four. Oh okay, he's 798 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna walk into the end zone here at Kennick the 799 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: balls off the carpet. So there are your stakes for 800 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: TNF tomorrow night. Coming up next, we get back into 801 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: something again. I've not seen this in baseball ever. I 802 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: wonder how things are gonna go following the game that's next. 803 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: Right here, Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.