1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: It is a special post debate Verdict with Ted Cruz 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: and Ben ferguson podcast. We get to do these on 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: big nights jointly like this. Depending on where you're listening 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: to us right now, you get us both. Senator your 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: initial reaction, we're doing this right now midnight Eastern. You 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: watch the debate. I watched the debate. What were your 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: big takeaways? Well, tonight was a big and consequential debate. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: But I have to say it before we get into it. 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Then this entire podcast we're going to analyze the debate 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: in depth and say what it showed about about where 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: the race is, where President Trump is, where Kamala Harris is. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: But I do want to point out it is exactly 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: midnight as you and I are recording, which means that 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: it has just become September eleventh, and for our listeners 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: who are downloading this, you'll be downloading this today during 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: September eleventh. 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What we quickly saw though, 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: was a three on one debate against Donald Trump and 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: ABC News. What an end kind donation they gave. 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the ABC moderators did not do a good job 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: that They clearly were biased towards Kamala Harris. We saw 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: that from their live quote fact checking, where repeatedly they'd 75 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: follow up what Trump said by contradicting him, by disputing him. 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: Many instances their fact checks were wrong and they never 77 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: never could be bothered a fact check a word that 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: came out of Kamala Harris's mouth. It was very one 79 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: sided on that front. But look, ABC News was the 80 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: least consequential part of tonight. What tonight illustrated is that 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris is utterly incapable of defending her own record. 82 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: And what we saw tonight this was her stump speech, 83 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 4: and this was her DNC convention speech cut into sound 84 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 4: bites and repeated. She memorized a series of vignettes, a 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: series of little segments, and just repeated those talking points 86 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: at nauseum. And it really became clear with the very 87 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: first question of the night, and the first question of 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: the night that David Muir asked her, is the question 89 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: that you and I and Monday's podcast said is the 90 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: single most important question of the debate and really of 91 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: every election, which is are you better off than you 92 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: were four years ago? And to Mere's credit, he started 93 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: with that question, are people off today than they were 94 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: four years ago? 95 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: Under Trump? Now? 96 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, Kamala refused to answer it at all. She 97 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: didn't say yes, she didn't say people's lives are better, 98 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: she said nothing at all. Instead, she had a little 99 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 4: memorized set piece about how I was raised in a 100 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: middle class family. I was raised with a mom who 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: loved me and struggled, and we just talked about her 102 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: bio and gave just just empty platitudes that continued for 103 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: the entire night. And so look, we saw this evening 104 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: why it is that Kamala's campaign team keeps her hidden 105 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: in Joe Biden's basement, Why they just bring her out? 106 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 4: Have a read from a teleprompter, and then they tackle 107 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: her and throw back in the basement, because all right, 108 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: let's take the very simple question. She didn't say, yes, 109 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: you're better off than you were four years ago. Why, well, 110 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: you really can't, Like it's impossible to defend on every front. Inflation. 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: All let's just take inflation in the economy. Her policies 112 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: and Joe Biden's policies have been disastrous America. The working 113 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: people of America have seen the price of just about 114 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 4: everything go up, from food to electricity, to rent, to lumber, 115 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: to healthcare, to gasoline, to mortgages, everything go up. And critically, 116 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: this is where her record matters. Kamala Harris was the 117 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: tie breaking vote multiple times on the floor of the 118 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: Senate on trillions of dollars of the out of control 119 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: spending from this administration that has caused this inflation. She 120 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: was literally, without her vote, the trillions of dollars that 121 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: we borrowed in the trillions of dollars that Joe Biden 122 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris ran the printing presses on that drove 123 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: this inflation. That doesn't happen, And she can't defend that. 124 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: She doesn't have a good answer when it comes to 125 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 4: energy and gas prices, people are hurting because of gas 126 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: price as well. It is her policies, in Joe Biden's policies, 127 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: that has waged war systematically on oil and gas production 128 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: and American energy, and she can't defend that either, and 129 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: so instead she simply says, well, we're going to lower 130 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: energy prices, We're going to lower gas prices, and with 131 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: no acknowledgment that Wait a second, she is, in fact 132 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: the sitting vice president and who knows where the heck 133 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 4: the actual president is besides passed out asleep on a beach. 134 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: When you see, I think the strategy and now it 135 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: actually I think makes more sense, right, like just hide 136 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: her buy ads, get the media to cover for you 137 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: and protect you at all costs, and maybe that is 138 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: a winning strategy, which comes to the obviously the next 139 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: big question, should there be another debate? 140 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Do you believe there will be? 141 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: In the other debate, they were obviously in the Harris 142 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: camp implying that there was a big victory tonight, saying 143 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: that was fun, let's do it again, and threw out 144 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: another date, signaling from her campaign they want to tee 145 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: it up again and go toe to toe with Donald 146 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: Trump again. Is that the right move for her? 147 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think Trump should absolutely accept that offer 148 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: for another debate. They should jump on it and say 149 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: let's go. I think the debate is a valuable opportunity 150 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 4: to calmly litigate her actual record. And let me say 151 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: this though, even if Trump does follow that advice and 152 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: does accept the debate, I think there's very little chance 153 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: it happens. I think Kamala's team will back out on it. 154 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: I think they're mostly just puffing out their chest and 155 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: boasting right now with the offer of another debate, I 156 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: think there is no world in which they let her 157 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 4: do a second debate. 158 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: I think it's back to the basement. 159 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: And if I were to predict, we're not going to 160 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 4: see Kamala emerge from the basement until election day. It's 161 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: like the groundhog until she sees her shadow on election day. 162 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: She doesn't get to come out of the basement other 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: than to show up at a rally here and there 164 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: and read from the teleprompter the same speech. But they 165 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: want to keep her absolutely controlled and repeating. And listen, 166 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: I will say the Democrat Party has very good message masters. 167 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: They have very good This is the party of Hollywood. 168 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: This is the party of storytellers. Her memory I set pieces. 169 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: Some of them are pretty effective. They're disconnected from reality. 170 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: They don't acknowledge any facts on earth. But if you 171 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 4: just listen to them, they are calmly reassuring. 172 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: They sound nice. And it's why. 173 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: Look, this is the same reaction I had with her 174 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: convention speech. It's dangerous as hell, because if you're not 175 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: paying close attention, what she says sounds nice unless she 176 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: is forced to confront her actual own record. And in 177 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: the entire debate, the ABC moderators never once pointed out 178 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: that her record is exactly the opposite of what she 179 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: said on the debate stage, over and over again. 180 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: So when I watched the debate, the question I always 181 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: ask myself is Okay, if I was going in a 182 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: night voting for Donald Trump, was I convinced by Kamala 183 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Harris that I should switch my vote? The answer honestly 184 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: is no. And if I'm a Kamala Harris voter and 185 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: was going into the night watching Kamala Harris saying I'm 186 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: going to vote for her, going to switch my vote 187 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump tonight, honestly, probably not. Does that mean 188 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: that this is a draw in essence, where hey, Donald 189 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: Trump's team they walk out of this going Okay, maybe 190 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: we could have done a little better on this that 191 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: or the other. Maybe we'll work on that for the 192 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: next subby, but we didn't do any harm and we 193 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: got out. Are some good points. Kamma's team probably says, hey, 194 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: we had it, we survived the night we had you 195 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: in hiding in the basement. Is this one of those 196 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: debates that we both said was one of the most 197 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: important ever? 198 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: But could in theory be a draw? 199 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: Because really, you're if the if the barometer is I'm 200 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: trying to change hearts and minds. 201 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Did anyone's mind change tonight? 202 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 4: Well, Kamala's team and all of our cheerleaders in the 203 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: corporate media are going to relentlessly hype that she won, 204 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 4: that she won, that she won. And by the way, 205 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: they were going to say that whatever happened, she could 206 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: literally fall to the ground and start screaming and wailing 207 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: and kicking her feet in the air and they would 208 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: say she won, So that that was going to be 209 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: the narrative. Regardless, I will say, what we learned is 210 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: she doesn't have a good answer to her own record. 211 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: The Trump campaign needs to continue to prosecute the case. 212 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: So let's take, for example, there was a hole back 213 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: and forth on abortion, and Trump said accurately that she 214 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: supports late term abortions into the eighth and ninth months 215 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: of pregnancy, and she just said, over and over again, no, 216 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't that's false, that's false, and 217 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: the moderators sat there like potted plants. Well, it so 218 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: happens that Kamala actually has a record, and in particular, 219 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: she has voted for legislation on the floor of the 220 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: Senate to strike down every single restriction on abortion in 221 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 4: the country and to legalize abortion in the eighth and 222 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: ninth months up to the moment of birth. That is 223 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: her actual voting record, what she has voted for. There 224 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: was another exchange where Trump points out that the governor 225 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: of Virginia, the former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, had 226 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: advocated for post birth abortion, and she out lied and said, no, no, 227 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: he didn't know. 228 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: He didn't play that because we have that clip. And 229 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: this is why I love doing the show, is we 230 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: get to play it. This is Northam on the radio 231 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: on WTP saying what she said and the media said 232 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: never happened. 233 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 5: If a mother is in labor, I can tell you 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 5: exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the 235 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 5: infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated 236 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 5: if that's what the mother and the family desired, and 237 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 5: then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers. 238 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, where's the fact check for ABC News on that? Senator? 239 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and understand Ralph Northam, he was a Democrat governor 240 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: of Virginia. He was also someone whose medical school yearbook 241 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: featured a picture of a klansman. That's another part of 242 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: Ralph Northm's background. But he was also an o BG 243 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: y N. So he was actually talking about as a 244 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: doctor who presumably has done that. He was describing the approach, 245 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: and that is delivering a baby. The baby is alive, 246 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: is breathing, is outside the mother's womb, and he's talking 247 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: about just letting the baby die. And again, this is 248 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: where records matter. Kamala has a record on this. So 249 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: when she says that's ridiculous, that's no, no, no, no, no, 250 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: that's not true. Well, Kamala Harris voted against the born 251 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: alive Infant Protection Act, and that was a bill that 252 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: we voted on the floor of the Senate that said 253 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: if during the course of an attempted abortion, the child 254 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: is delivered, the child is born, and this happens, and 255 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: the child is alive and breathing and outside the womb, 256 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: that the doctor cannot just let the baby die. And 257 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: she voted no. Now, as you noted, ABC did in 258 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: fact check her on that, her voting record is very 259 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: clear and this was a pattern over and over and 260 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: over again on energy. So her big train now on 261 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: energy as she's run away from her long held position 262 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: opposing fracking. Okay, fine, so she's like, yeah, I just 263 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: flip flopped on that. What ABC didn't point out is, well, 264 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: wait a second, your repeated statements about banning fracking. That's 265 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: not the only thing you've done on energy. First week 266 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: in office, you and Joe Biden shut down the Keystone Pipeline. 267 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: Joe Biden when he was campaigning for president, promised to 268 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: shut down drilling on shore, on federal lands and offshore. 269 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: You put in over ninety different regulations and executive orders 270 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: attacking oil and gas production in the United States. That 271 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: has had a very direct effect driving up cost. Your 272 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 4: administration banned new permits exporting liquid natural gas, like her 273 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: record on energy is terrible, and she has no answer 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: to that. And by the way, Trump did a good 275 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: job on this point of saying, listen, you banned the 276 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: Keystone pipeline and gave a giant gift of Vladimir Putin 277 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: by allowing him to complete the nord Stream two pipeline, 278 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: which caused the war in Ukraine. And that's something you 279 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: and I have talked about in this podcast a lot. 280 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: It was my legislation in the Senate that sanctioned Nordstream 281 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: two and shut it down. Trump signed my legislation and 282 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: Putin literally stopped building the nord Stream two pipeline the 283 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: day that Trump signed my sanctions legislation. In the law, 284 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: Nordstream two was a dead hunk of metal at the 285 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: bottom of the ocean until Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 286 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: came into office and they demonstrated weakness and and they 287 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: waived the sanctions on nord Stream two, and it was 288 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: a multi billion dollar gift to Russia, and it caused 289 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: the war in Ukraine. None of that does she have 290 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: an answer for. 291 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: We just got in the official number. ABC News fact 292 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: check Donald Trump seven times, not one time the debate. 293 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: Did they fact check Kamala Harris not once? So that's 294 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: the official tally now is seven times on Trump. That's 295 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: three on one, and I do think that's gonna have 296 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: a turn off. I would hope to some of those voters, 297 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: maybe in the middle, the undecideds, which very much can 298 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: be the deciding factor in this election. Will that play 299 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: with undecideds? Do you think did they see the bias 300 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: that you and I saw? 301 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: They saw that some, but I think they also go 302 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 4: in expecting the media to be biased. So I don't 303 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: think anyone is surprised that ABC is a left wing 304 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: mouthpiece for the Democrats. That's been the case, sadly for 305 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: a long time. For ABCNBCCBSC and AN, MSNBC, all of 306 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: them have been mouthpieces for the Democrats. So yes, they 307 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: saw it, but again they're not surprised. Look, the critical 308 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 4: thing that we saw tonight is is she doesn't have 309 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 4: a good answer on the chaos at our southern border. 310 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris was the borders are. She is directly responsible 311 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: for the worst level of eli immigration in our nation's history. 312 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: She is directly responsible for the people who have died. 313 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: Eight hundred and fifty three migrants died last year crossing 314 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 4: illegalian in this country. She is responsible for the people, 315 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: the women who have been brutally raped. She's responsible for 316 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: the children who have been brutalized. She's responsible for the 317 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: little boys and little girls who've been horribly assaulted by 318 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: human traffickers. She's responsible for the one hundred and ten 319 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: thousand Americans who died last year of drug overdoses. She 320 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: is responsible for the murderers that she and Joe Biden 321 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: had in their custody. Murderers like the illegal alien murder 322 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: of Lake and Riley that she and Joe Biden had 323 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: in custody, and they released murderers like the illegal alien 324 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: murderer of Rachel Morin. That illegal alien was in her custody, 325 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 4: she released them. Murderers like the illegal alien murderers of 326 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: Joscelyn Hungary. Both of them were in her custody and 327 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: she and Joe Biden released them. And so that record, 328 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: she was not forced tonight to answer for any of 329 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: that record and that but but it demonstrated that she 330 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: does not have a good response. And and that's what 331 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: I think the next two months, the Trump campaign has 332 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: to prosecute systematically based on the facts. Here is her record, 333 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 4: Here is what she has done, and it hasn't worked. 334 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: It has failed, and the American people are worse off 335 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: as a result of the failures of her extreme policies. 336 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: You mentioned Donald Trump's got to bring up some more 337 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: of this stuff, and I think you and I have 338 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: talked about this, but let's just remind people since Kamayers 339 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: took off as total prices are up over twenty percent, 340 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 2: car insurance up fifty four percent, hotels are up say 341 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: when you were in a hotel fifty one point two percent, 342 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Gases up fifty point fifty percent, fuel oil is up 343 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: forty nine point one, transportation up thirty two point nine. 344 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: Electricity is up thirty one point seven percent. Baby food's 345 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: up over thirty percent, eating out of up twenty five percent, 346 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 2: airfare up twenty three percent, rent up twenty two percent, 347 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: and groceries are up about twenty two percent as well. 348 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 2: That's what they've got to focus on, every single one 349 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: of his surrogate's not all this other and the weed stuff. 350 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: I really do believe they've got to keep it simple 351 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: for the American voter, especially if you're trying to go 352 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: after undecided. 353 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 4: Sure, and that's what we talked about in Monday's pod, 354 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: that the focus needs to be on. 355 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: Harms, harms, harms. 356 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: How are people's lives worth aught worse off because of 357 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 4: the horrible policies that Kamala Harris is directly responsible for. 358 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: And that's true on inflation, she was literally the tie 359 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: breaking vote behind the trillions of spending that unleash this inflation. 360 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 4: It's true on energy, she and Joe Biden, and it 361 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: has been their executive orders and their regulations that have 362 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 4: driven up energy prices. 363 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 3: And it's true on the border. 364 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: And and let me play there that there was one 365 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: of the best exchanges with something Trump said on the 366 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: border where he made the point that that that that listened, 367 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: she could secure the border today, and and and and 368 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: and listen listen to this what he said to her. 369 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 6: Right now, I would say we would both leave this 370 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 6: debate right now. I'd like to see her go down 371 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 6: to Washington, D C. During this debate, because we're wasting 372 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 6: a lot of time. 373 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: Go down to. 374 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 6: Because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous. 375 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: Go down to Washington, D C. 376 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 6: And let her sign a bill to close up the border, 377 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 6: because they have the right to do it. 378 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: They don't need bills. 379 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 6: They have the right to do the President of the 380 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 6: United States, you'll get them out of bed. 381 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. 382 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 6: You'll say, come on, come on down to the office, 383 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: let's sign a bill. 384 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: It was a great moment in the debate. 385 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, that point is very powerful. And understand, this 386 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: invasion at our southern border, it is happening right now today. 387 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: There are hundreds, if not thousands of illegal immigrants crossing 388 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: the border right now today today Joe Biden and Kamala 389 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 4: Harris are apprehending hundreds, if not thousands of illegal aliens 390 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: and they're going to release them tomorrow. There are criminals 391 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: they're going to release tomorrow. There are murderers they're going 392 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: to release going forward. There are rapists, there are child molestors, 393 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: and they keep on doing it. And the point Trump 394 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: is making, and listen, his campaign needs to follow this 395 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: up by explaining, by really explaining. Look, when Joe Biden 396 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris came into office, they inherited the lowest 397 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 4: rate of illegal immigration in forty five years Donald Trump. 398 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: I worked hand in hand with President Trump to secure 399 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: the border, and we had incredible success. When Trump was president, 400 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: the border was secure, and it was unilateral executive actions 401 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: that caused this crisis. Three to decisions that Biden Harris 402 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: did in the very first week. Number one, they immediately 403 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: halted construction of the border wall. Number two, they reinstated 404 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: the disastrous policy of catch and release, and number three 405 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: they pulled out of the incredibly successful Remain in Mexico agreement. 406 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 4: All three of those they could reverse tomorrow. And so 407 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 4: the point like literally go down to the White House 408 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: right now and do it. That is absolutely right. It 409 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: is also right that if and I pray when Trump 410 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: is reelected that he will reverse all three of those 411 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: decisions on January twentieth of next year, and we will 412 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: see the border crisis end, and it will end quickly. 413 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: And so that point was very effective. 414 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: Let me say also, ben I thought the foreign policy 415 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 4: portion of the debate was particularly strong for Trump, and 416 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: it was very weak for Kamala Harris. At one point, 417 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 4: she looks over at Trump and says, well, you know, 418 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 4: everyone knows that he was weak and ineffective on foreign policy. 419 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 4: And I got to say to me that that was 420 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: a laugh line. And listen, if you look across the globe, 421 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: we had peace and prosperity when Trump was president. We 422 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: had no foreign wars, and in fact, we saw peace 423 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: breaking out in the Middle East. We saw the Abraham 424 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: Accords being signed, we saw Arabs and Israelis coming together. 425 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 4: And I think it is absolutely the case that if 426 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: Trump were still in the White House today, the war 427 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: in Ukraine would not have happened. 428 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: In the war in Israel would not have happened. 429 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 4: That it was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's weakness that 430 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: caused those wars. And critically, and Trump did a good 431 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: job of this too, laying out that Listen, Kamala Harris 432 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: has flowed over one hundred billion dollars to Iran. Iran 433 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 4: provides ninety percent of the funding for Hamas, ninety percent 434 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: of the funding for Hesbela. Kamala Harris in a very 435 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: real sense paid for the death squads that carried out 436 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: the atrocities on October seventh. And Kamala has no answer 437 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: to that. And tonight showed that powerfully. 438 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: You know, I also think and you go to the 439 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: end of the debate that one of the best parts 440 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: was actually Donald Trump in his closing argument, and it 441 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: goes back to the campaign strategy I think he needs 442 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: to have moving forward, and that is to make sure 443 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: he makes this about what she has done in comparison 444 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: to what she claims she wants to do while she's 445 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: in charge. 446 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: Like you're in charge, you're in charge, You're in charge? 447 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: Is it in Trump? 448 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 6: So she just started by saying she's going to do this, 449 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 6: She's going to do that, She's going to do all 450 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it? She's been 451 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 6: there for three and a half years. They've had three 452 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 6: and a half years to fix the border, They've had 453 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 6: three and a half years to create jobs and all 454 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 6: the things we talked about. 455 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: Why hasn't she done it? 456 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful 457 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 6: White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together, and 458 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 6: do the things you want to do. But you haven't 459 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 6: done it, and you won't do it because you believe 460 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 6: in things that the American people don't believe in. 461 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: It's a great line and I wish it would have 462 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: been used even more. 463 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the closing was Trump's best best part 464 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: of the entire debate, and that that was exactly the 465 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 4: right message. It's a message that the Trump campaign should 466 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: amplify every day between now an election day. Listen, you 467 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: and I have talked about how kamalas trying to engage 468 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: in this divorced from reality campaign where she pretends she's 469 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 4: not in office, that she's not the incumbent, she disavows 470 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: all responsibility for the mess that is happening, and in fact, 471 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: she's behaving as if Donald Trump is the incumbent president 472 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: and she's the change candidate. She is in office right now. 473 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: Joe Biden is in office right now, and on every 474 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: single level, on inflation, on crime, on the legal immigration, 475 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 4: on foreign policy, on safety and security, the world was 476 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: much much better when Trump was president than it is today, 477 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 4: and that that needs to be emphasized every day between 478 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: now an election day. 479 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: Cent Her final question, I think for you and really 480 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: for me, when I was watching this tonight and it say, okay, 481 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: where do we go from here? 482 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of another debate. 483 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: I think you you covered that earlier, right, You agree 484 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: Trump should do another one number one. 485 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't think she will. 486 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: I think you will so your prediction is she's done yep. 487 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: Number two. 488 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 2: If you're Donald Trump, what do you learn for tonight 489 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: and what do you take into your big campaign rallies 490 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: from this, and what is your messaging to your surrogates 491 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: tomorrow on the surrogate call. 492 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 3: I think the message is she cannot defend. 493 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: Her record, and her record is a failure. The American 494 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: people are worse off. But but listen, I think it's 495 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 4: important to remember also, this is not about Donald Trump, 496 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 4: and it's not about Kamala Harris. It is about the 497 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: American people it is about It is about young, young 498 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: couples who are going out and buying their first home 499 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: and they're discovering that a seven and a half percent 500 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: mortgage rate is much much worse than a two and 501 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 4: a half percent mortgage rate that you get about half 502 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 4: the house. That's happening right now today, people are hurting. 503 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: It's about a single mom who's trying to make ends meet, 504 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 4: and she can't afford to buy groceries anymore because the 505 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: prices have gone so high, and when she tries to 506 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 4: fill up her tank to go to work, it just 507 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: about breaks her. It's about the people who are suffering. 508 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: Look today. On September tenth, there was a ceremony in 509 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 4: the Capitol where the Congressional Gold Medal was awarded to 510 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: the thirteen servicemen and women who were murdered in Afghanistan 511 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: from the absolutely disastrous and incompetent withdrawal from Abbigate. Of 512 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: the families were there, and it was a beautiful ceremony, 513 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: and the families. I spoke to many of the families. 514 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: I thanked every one of them that I could to 515 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: say thank you for your service and sacrifice. 516 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. But I also to many of them. 517 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: Had a follow up conversation where I said, there needs 518 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: to be accountability. There has been zero accountability. That the 519 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: focus for the campaign every day from now to election 520 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: day needs to be the difference between Trump's record and 521 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: Kamala's record and critically bringing it home to the voters 522 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: how their lives were much better when Trump was president 523 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: than they have been under Kamala, and that her policies 524 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: are failures and they're hurting the American people. That's got 525 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: to be the central message. 526 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you mentioned a second ago, on this anniversary 527 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, I think it's important that we 528 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: also take as back remember how important it is that 529 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: you have competent leaders that understand how important it is 530 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: to protect and defend the homeland, to protect and defend freedom. 531 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: And also just a moment to say thank you to 532 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: all of those that serve this country, to all of 533 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: those that wear the uniform, to all those that have 534 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: given the ultimate sacrifices and their families. There were so 535 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: many people that died on nine to eleven, but there 536 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: was also the second part, and that was so many 537 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: that died because they wanted to protect and defend us 538 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: after nine to eleven that gave the ultimate sacrifice. And 539 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: I said to everybody listening, say thank you to a veteran. 540 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: Text them. Everybody knows a veteran, tell them thank you. 541 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: I had the privilege of playing golf today with some 542 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: of those that actually took out some of the worst 543 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: terrorists in the world, some special operators, and they were 544 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: amazing guys, and I say to them, thank you, because 545 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: without you giving up years of your life and risking 546 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: your life and losing your brothers in uniform, we wouldn't 547 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: have the freedoms we have today. 548 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: And that's what we need to remember. I think during 549 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: this election season as well. 550 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: Don't forget. We do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday on Verdict. 551 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: I do my show Ben Ferguson Podcasts, every single day. 552 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: So grab our podcast at that subscriber auto download button 553 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to these podcasts. 554 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: It's always fun. 555 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: We get to do a joint podcast, The Senator and 556 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: I will see you back here in a couple of days, 557 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: and I'll see you back here tomorrow on the Ben 558 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: Ferguson Podcasts as well. And again, God bless America and 559 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: thanks to all of our veterans that are listening to you. 560 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: Guys are the heroes.