WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 24 0:00:01.230 --> 0:00:05.170 Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz, 0:00:05.410 --> 0:00:08.690 where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest 0:00:08.730 --> 0:00:10.050 sports stories of the day. 0:00:10.070 --> 0:00:12.610 Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz. 0:00:13.470 --> 0:00:14.590 Not so fast, my friends. 0:00:16.630 --> 0:00:18.690 Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. 0:00:18.730 --> 0:00:22.540 He's Paul Paps, and we are in full October mode. 0:00:22.980 --> 0:00:25.180 Beautiful weather this weekend. Did you enjoy it, Paul? 0:00:25.340 --> 0:00:27.340 Absolutely not. I was on the couch the entire time, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:28.420 but I heard it was lovely out. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:30.570 No, it was really nice. What are we coming up today? 0:00:30.650 --> 0:00:31.070 A lot. 0:00:31.090 --> 0:00:32.990 We got the MLB playoffs with the Brewers. We're going 0:00:33.010 --> 0:00:35.750 to touch on that. Yogi Roth of NBC Sports with 0:00:35.770 --> 0:00:39.390 the college football weekend. But first, Perloff. an interesting, impactful 0:00:39.430 --> 0:00:40.530 weekend of NFL football. 0:00:40.670 --> 0:00:42.670 Yeah, I'll let you get started. Who's your biggest winner? 0:00:42.690 --> 0:00:44.530 Because there are a lot of heavyweights that played this weekend. 0:00:44.690 --> 0:00:46.510 What did you come out of on Monday morning saying 0:00:46.530 --> 0:00:48.729 the biggest winner of Week 4 so far? 0:00:48.979 --> 0:00:50.620 I'm going to go with the Chiefs, and I know 0:00:50.659 --> 0:00:52.580 it's kind of obvious that the Chiefs are 4-0, but 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.840 that was a tough win. They lost two wide receivers, 0:00:55.180 --> 0:00:57.820 Rasheed Rice and Thornton, and that Thornton injury was really bad. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.170 But they played well. Kenneth Walker, 177 in two touchdowns. 0:01:02.190 --> 0:01:04.230 He's the sure thing of the whole offense. And I 0:01:04.300 --> 0:01:07.140 think that holding off a young, exciting team like the 0:01:07.180 --> 0:01:10.009 Raiders was a very good win. National TV, everybody saw it. 0:01:10.300 --> 0:01:13.080 And also, you've got to factor in other things. They 0:01:13.140 --> 0:01:15.970 still had these injuries before the trade deadline. So right now, 0:01:16.550 --> 0:01:18.809 Thornton is down. Are they going to look at Tyreek Hill? 0:01:18.850 --> 0:01:19.110 Maybe. 0:01:19.410 --> 0:01:22.150 But remember, in the Trent McDuffie trade, they have an 0:01:22.170 --> 0:01:25.089 extra third-round draft pick, the Chiefs. So they can parlay that. 0:01:25.190 --> 0:01:27.259 Trade deadline is in four weeks. They're going to need 0:01:27.300 --> 0:01:29.560 help for Mahomes. But that was a good game. And 0:01:29.580 --> 0:01:31.260 I don't think it was an awful game for the Raiders. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.640 No, I came out of that liking the Raiders. So 0:01:33.700 --> 0:01:34.340 back to the Chiefs. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.140 If they don't get a wide receiver back, would you 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.450 be like the Rams and trade high picks to get 0:01:40.530 --> 0:01:41.009 a receiver? 0:01:41.110 --> 0:01:41.470 Absolutely. 0:01:41.490 --> 0:01:44.770 You're in a win-now situation. Anytime Mahomes is on your roster, 0:01:44.930 --> 0:01:47.330 it's win this season. And you don't need that extra 0:01:47.410 --> 0:01:50.390 third-round draft pick. If you can go get Brian Thomas Jr. 0:01:50.430 --> 0:01:53.150 from the Jaguars, grab him. Why not? 0:01:53.780 --> 0:01:56.180 Yeah, Dan had really interesting comments about Kenneth Walker, the 0:01:56.220 --> 0:01:58.960 running back and MVP. We'll get to that later. But 0:01:59.020 --> 0:02:02.380 I worry that they're using him too much. Emma Johnson, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.000 his backup, a rookie running back, didn't play at all, barely. 0:02:05.020 --> 0:02:08.000 He had one catch yesterday. Can Ken Walker carry the 0:02:08.020 --> 0:02:10.100 ball 23 times a game at this? He was so 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:11.760 good last night, you couldn't take him out of the game. 0:02:12.220 --> 0:02:15.610 But I worry about a running back who Seattle said, 0:02:15.669 --> 0:02:17.090 you know what, we don't want to carry him 20 0:02:17.090 --> 0:02:18.690 times a game and we'll even let him go tomorrow. 0:02:18.850 --> 0:02:21.330 The Chiefs are just all in, as many carries as 0:02:21.370 --> 0:02:21.750 he can handle. 0:02:21.770 --> 0:02:23.190 By the way, did you see those jump cuts? I 0:02:23.210 --> 0:02:26.050 don't think he gets enough credit for his jukiness, if 0:02:26.090 --> 0:02:28.690 that's a word. I think not only can Kenneth Walker 0:02:28.750 --> 0:02:30.250 do it, I think he's going to have to for 0:02:30.270 --> 0:02:32.910 the next two weeks. If they're down two wide receivers, 0:02:32.940 --> 0:02:35.840 I know they've got decent players, but I think he 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.160 carries the ball more in October than he did in September. 0:02:38.830 --> 0:02:41.169 I don't think that's a good idea. Look at their schedule. 0:02:41.210 --> 0:02:44.410 The charge is whatever, but at Seattle and at Denver. Now, 0:02:44.470 --> 0:02:46.990 Kenneth Walker already torched Denver, but this is at Denver. 0:02:47.370 --> 0:02:49.980 I think they have good defenses on the schedule. I 0:02:50.020 --> 0:02:52.240 don't know if I would overuse him, but you need 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.260 him in the postseason. You don't need him right now, Paul. 0:02:54.380 --> 0:02:56.300 I see. I think you step on the gas with 0:02:56.340 --> 0:02:59.540 Ken Walker for a couple reasons. The Bills lost. And 0:02:59.580 --> 0:03:02.040 if the Bills lost, you're trying to get home field 0:03:02.090 --> 0:03:06.310 advantage in the AFC playoffs. I do think that long term. 0:03:06.389 --> 0:03:09.750 I think that home field advantage against the Bills nullifies 0:03:09.790 --> 0:03:10.089 the Bills. 0:03:10.310 --> 0:03:12.269 Well, Andy Reid said after week two that we want 0:03:12.290 --> 0:03:14.870 to minimize Walker's workload. And then what does he do? 0:03:15.130 --> 0:03:17.190 He just gives it auto. And this is Andy Reid. 0:03:17.310 --> 0:03:19.210 Andy Reid doesn't even like to use running backs. He's 0:03:19.230 --> 0:03:20.649 a pass all the time guy. 0:03:20.710 --> 0:03:21.630 Who's your winner of the weekend? 0:03:21.750 --> 0:03:24.790 Okay, my biggest winner of the weekend is Dallas. Now, 0:03:24.850 --> 0:03:27.070 the Cowboys had a tough loss in Rio that everyone 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.080 watched to the Ravens. Now, in past years, I think 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.760 Dallas sort of folds in the 10 after that game. 0:03:33.100 --> 0:03:36.520 They came out and played really tough against Houston. Down 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.610 by 10, come back. Now, here's the thing. We know 0:03:39.670 --> 0:03:42.010 the offense is great. We know CeeDee Lamb is amazing. 0:03:42.050 --> 0:03:44.390 You cannot cover him. We know that Dak Prescott's going 0:03:44.410 --> 0:03:46.930 to be in the MVP conversation. All you need is 0:03:46.990 --> 0:03:48.690 some defense. And that's what they got. 0:03:48.950 --> 0:03:49.970 Some defense. 0:03:50.270 --> 0:03:53.670 Joey Porter Jr. didn't get targeted barely at all. Deron 0:03:53.690 --> 0:03:55.430 Bland's a bit of a problem on the other corner. 0:03:55.750 --> 0:03:57.370 But they made some big stops at the end where 0:03:57.410 --> 0:04:00.690 Sean Gary finally got a sack. What I'm impressed by 0:04:00.780 --> 0:04:03.760 is Brian Schottenheimer had these guys ready to play. In 0:04:03.780 --> 0:04:06.440 the past, I'm not sure Cowboys coaches could do that. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.700 Yeah, and the thing about the Cowboys defense, I look 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.720 at them as at the halfway point, where are they? 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.960 You know, Downs is a new guy. Gary's a new guy. 0:04:13.260 --> 0:04:15.089 If they can get those guys up to speed. They 0:04:15.130 --> 0:04:16.990 do seem better against the run, and that was their 0:04:17.010 --> 0:04:19.410 goal last year with the Parsons trade. Again, I don't 0:04:19.450 --> 0:04:21.010 think they're ever going to be, I shouldn't say ever, 0:04:21.070 --> 0:04:23.719 not this season, be a great defense. But that second 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.480 half by their offense, Dak wasn't getting touched. He was 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.279 sitting back there. You saw that clip we just showed. 0:04:28.540 --> 0:04:30.920 He's just sitting back there looking. CeeDee Lamb all day, 0:04:31.020 --> 0:04:34.640 Pickens less so. but 28 points against the supposed best 0:04:34.670 --> 0:04:35.390 defense in the league. 0:04:35.630 --> 0:04:37.070 Well, one thing they have to do is slow the 0:04:37.110 --> 0:04:38.830 game down a little. Not so fast, as we like 0:04:38.850 --> 0:04:40.730 to say. So they do need to run the ball 0:04:40.750 --> 0:04:43.000 with Javante Williams to keep that defense off the field. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.159 But it's a new defensive coordinator, Christian Parker, from the Eagles. 0:04:46.620 --> 0:04:48.409 I think it's going to take some time to master 0:04:48.470 --> 0:04:50.530 his scheme, the Vic Fangio scheme, as. 0:04:50.490 --> 0:04:51.170 We like to say. 0:04:51.650 --> 0:04:53.510 But I think the Cowboys' defense is going to improve 0:04:53.550 --> 0:04:55.670 to the point where they're good. Here's the other thing. 0:04:55.850 --> 0:04:58.690 The NFC East is struggling, Paul. The Giants aren't going 0:04:58.710 --> 0:05:01.630 to do anything. The Commanders are down to their third-string quarterback. 0:05:01.910 --> 0:05:04.090 And I think the Eagles' injuries are a problem. So 0:05:04.110 --> 0:05:06.370 the road is wide open for Dallas to win the division. 0:05:06.410 --> 0:05:08.000 I think that's another team that will be active at 0:05:08.010 --> 0:05:09.700 the trade deadline. If you look at the rest of 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.620 their division, we talked about this last week, you compare 0:05:12.660 --> 0:05:14.219 yourself to the rest of the division, and they don't 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.180 seem that threatening. You may not have the best team 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.159 in the division, but clearly you could host a home 0:05:18.180 --> 0:05:18.640 playoff game. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.060 All right, you're up. Who's the next winner? 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.440 I'm going to give a bounce-back win, a big win, 0:05:22.500 --> 0:05:25.020 for the Patriots and mostly Drake May. Drake May had 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.140 a rough September. I mean, as rough as it could be. 0:05:27.500 --> 0:05:29.710 People forgot he was in the Super Bowl last year. 0:05:29.750 --> 0:05:32.430 I just checked. He was in the Super Bowl last year. 0:05:32.470 --> 0:05:33.309 I remember. 0:05:33.330 --> 0:05:33.800 You watched it? 0:05:33.910 --> 0:05:34.510 Yeah. 0:05:34.670 --> 0:05:37.589 One touchdown, six picks in September, as bad as it gets, 0:05:37.950 --> 0:05:42.030 but insane. He wasn't great against Buffalo. He was good 0:05:42.050 --> 0:05:43.870 when it mattered in the fourth quarter. He did have 0:05:43.910 --> 0:05:46.610 two turnovers. This game could have easily gone the other way, 0:05:46.630 --> 0:05:48.909 and we talk about, hey, Drake may have played better, 0:05:49.230 --> 0:05:52.000 but in another loss. Last few plays of the game, 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.400 he made the plays. The one thing that still bothers 0:05:54.420 --> 0:05:56.260 me is when a play isn't there, he takes off 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.410 and runs, which is... In theory, okay, because he runs 0:05:59.450 --> 0:06:01.409 very well, but he does it too often. He picks 0:06:01.450 --> 0:06:03.760 the ball, and then he's kind of looking around too much. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.460 Wow, look at the quarterback on the other side. Isn't 0:06:05.500 --> 0:06:06.240 that Josh Allen? 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.839 Josh Allen, though, is a house. He can get away 0:06:08.860 --> 0:06:09.479 with whatever he wants. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.500 Drake May's not small. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.170 No, he's not small, but I would say Drake May, 0:06:13.270 --> 0:06:15.490 he kind of put everyone off his back for a week, 0:06:15.529 --> 0:06:17.500 and he said so in the postgame. When he asked 0:06:17.620 --> 0:06:20.000 how you feel after the win, he said, it's relieving. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:21.020 Yeah. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.980 He actually said what everyone thought. Like, this was a 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:24.520 relief win, not an excitement win. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.120 At halftime, I was with, you know, people in Boston 0:06:27.170 --> 0:06:28.020 Radio want a bench. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:28.550 Oh, yeah. 0:06:28.570 --> 0:06:30.750 At halftime of that game, I was thinking to myself, 0:06:30.790 --> 0:06:32.810 Drake May is in big trouble. Then the second half, 0:06:33.089 --> 0:06:35.330 it was the old Drake May. I disagree a little bit. 0:06:35.350 --> 0:06:37.210 I think it starts with his legs. When he runs, 0:06:37.230 --> 0:06:38.469 he gets a little more confidence. 0:06:38.510 --> 0:06:41.160 Right. I know what you mean about going through his progression. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.940 I want him to go to that later in the process. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.320 You know, I remember coming out, people always said, watch 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:47.279 out for Drake May's legs. 0:06:47.380 --> 0:06:49.100 I think it's an underrated aspect. All right, I'm going 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:49.719 to go up next. 0:06:50.180 --> 0:06:52.580 My big winner is San Francisco. I said coming into 0:06:52.620 --> 0:06:55.250 this weekend, Paul, that San Francisco-Denver could be a Super 0:06:55.270 --> 0:06:55.690 Bowl preview. 0:06:56.150 --> 0:06:57.290 I maintain that. 0:06:57.370 --> 0:06:59.270 I don't know about Denver, but San Francisco looks like 0:06:59.310 --> 0:07:01.790 they're ready to go. And let's hear it for the 0:07:01.910 --> 0:07:02.390 old guys. 0:07:02.650 --> 0:07:03.890 McCaffrey, awesome. 0:07:04.190 --> 0:07:07.200 George Kittle, tight end screen touchdown to seal the game. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.660 Mike Evans, solid. Debo looks rejuvenated. Trent Williams holding it 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:12.680 down a left tackle. 0:07:12.740 --> 0:07:12.960 Wild. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.720 Then you got Warner on defense. We'll get Bosa back eventually. 0:07:17.180 --> 0:07:20.830 This is the geriatric team, and I love it. I 0:07:20.850 --> 0:07:23.510 believe the Niners are playing the best football of any 0:07:23.530 --> 0:07:24.420 team in the league right now. 0:07:24.450 --> 0:07:24.980 They proved it. 0:07:25.150 --> 0:07:29.250 Denver, even this Denver team, who's not really gelling on offense– 0:07:29.410 --> 0:07:30.190 is a tough assignment. 0:07:30.210 --> 0:07:31.380 Their defense is so good. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.720 Once Patrick Chetan went out for Denver, then Brock Purdy 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:36.640 just did whatever he wanted. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.120 He looked amazing in the second half. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.140 It was a classic Broncos game, save it for the 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.700 fourth quarter. But the problem is Bo Nix, he didn't 0:07:42.750 --> 0:07:44.650 do it in the fourth quarter. And the thing about Purdy, 0:07:44.670 --> 0:07:46.470 I would like to check this stat. He was not 0:07:46.590 --> 0:07:48.950 sacked and didn't throw an interception the first four games 0:07:48.990 --> 0:07:49.410 of the season. 0:07:49.510 --> 0:07:49.830 Amazing. 0:07:49.850 --> 0:07:51.690 That's as good as it gets. He's sitting back there 0:07:51.770 --> 0:07:55.750 and just picking and choosing his guys. 11 touchdowns, one pick, 126. 0:07:55.750 --> 0:07:58.040 I mean, Sacks taken zero. 0:07:58.380 --> 0:07:59.740 I heard a comp that I don't love. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:00.460 For Purdy? 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:00.920 Yes. 0:08:01.500 --> 0:08:04.360 Someone said he's a new Joe Montana. Now, he's different 0:08:04.380 --> 0:08:06.780 than Montana. Montana was the ultimate West Coast thing. Brock 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.350 Purdy runs around a lot. He will buy time in 0:08:09.370 --> 0:08:11.910 the pocket like there's no tomorrow. Like the touchdown to 0:08:11.930 --> 0:08:12.550 Debo yesterday. 0:08:12.570 --> 0:08:14.550 You know I don't like easy comps just because he's 0:08:14.590 --> 0:08:15.270 a 49er. 0:08:15.330 --> 0:08:15.550 Yes. 0:08:15.570 --> 0:08:18.130 But I will say that early Montana was a bit 0:08:18.150 --> 0:08:20.380 of a scrambler runner more than a runner runner. 0:08:20.710 --> 0:08:22.400 I don't know. I don't buy it. I think Brock 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:23.960 Purdy's superpower is his legs. 0:08:24.260 --> 0:08:28.020 Okay, but Brock Purdy is physically unimpressive. No offense. I'm 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.640 saying when you see him on the street, he looks 0:08:29.660 --> 0:08:32.300 like he's 15. He's not the biggest or strongest guy, 0:08:32.380 --> 0:08:35.120 and he's not the fastest nor slowest guy. That's just 0:08:35.140 --> 0:08:35.780 like Joe Montana. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.989 I will tell you one thing that I think is different. 0:08:38.380 --> 0:08:40.709 I think he's thicker than you think. I think he's 0:08:40.750 --> 0:08:43.770 a little bigger. You put him next to Bryce Young. 0:08:43.830 --> 0:08:46.290 Bryce Young is a midget. I think he's a thick dude. 0:08:46.330 --> 0:08:48.370 I've never thought about his thickness, but now I will. 0:08:48.550 --> 0:08:50.530 No, he's stronger than you might think, and I understand 0:08:50.570 --> 0:08:51.189 what you're saying. 0:08:51.210 --> 0:08:53.910 I think Brock is a little more durable. All right. 0:08:54.490 --> 0:08:56.790 Helmet stickers, Paul. There's a lot to go around. 0:08:56.850 --> 0:08:58.850 I'll go first. This is really obvious. Let's go back 0:08:58.870 --> 0:09:00.910 to the Dallas Cowboys game. Look, I don't know what 0:09:00.950 --> 0:09:03.240 the scouting report is when you're getting ready to play 0:09:03.250 --> 0:09:06.040 the Cowboys, but you've got to think, maybe keep an 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:06.640 eye on C.D. 0:09:06.660 --> 0:09:06.839 Lamb. 0:09:06.860 --> 0:09:10.959 Well, he had 21 targets, 17 catches, 189, and a touchdown. 0:09:11.260 --> 0:09:13.780 He was targeted 21 times in the game. There's one 0:09:13.820 --> 0:09:14.250 for C.D. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:14.490 Lamb. 0:09:14.500 --> 0:09:17.400 I'm sure he's excited about this, but It's one of 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.900 those games where you're watching like, OK, you get the 0:09:19.940 --> 0:09:22.040 point now. They're going to CD. They're not really running 0:09:22.059 --> 0:09:23.959 the ball because they don't have to. And it became 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:24.520 pitch and catch. 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.099 Absolutely. And George Pickens is a good beat. He's a 0:09:27.100 --> 0:09:28.199 good Robin to see these. 0:09:28.220 --> 0:09:29.600 They combine for 19 catches. 0:09:30.020 --> 0:09:30.260 Yeah. 0:09:30.330 --> 0:09:33.040 Well, yeah. But Pickens had the big catch. I love Pickens. 0:09:33.210 --> 0:09:33.490 All right. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.330 I'm going to go to a guy that I've been 0:09:35.350 --> 0:09:37.170 talking about all season long. It's about time he won 0:09:37.190 --> 0:09:40.190 the sticker. That is, of course, the Patriots' Efton Chisholm. 0:09:40.630 --> 0:09:40.850 Oh, yeah. 0:09:40.870 --> 0:09:41.809 You were always a big fan. 0:09:41.950 --> 0:09:42.650 Efton Chisholm. 0:09:43.510 --> 0:09:45.770 He had a one-handed catch to beat the Bills that 0:09:45.929 --> 0:09:48.719 I still can't believe. Obviously, I don't know if you 0:09:48.740 --> 0:09:53.220 heard Chauncey Gardner-Johnson's comments about it. This is Odell Beckham 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.550 from someone I've never heard of. Unbelievable play by Efton Chisholm, 0:09:57.570 --> 0:09:58.809 and he definitely deserves a sticker. 0:09:58.850 --> 0:10:00.339 Yeah, he sure does, and he's got real... on the 0:10:00.380 --> 0:10:02.370 helmet for a lot of stickers i didn't know much 0:10:02.420 --> 0:10:05.370 about this guy i think he's eastern washington one double 0:10:05.390 --> 0:10:08.750 a fcs okay can you comp him without using a 0:10:08.850 --> 0:10:13.510 white small wide receiver danny amandola Julian Edelman, are we going? 0:10:13.610 --> 0:10:14.390 We got to go there, right? 0:10:14.770 --> 0:10:17.219 I have no idea. Yeah, no, I can't do that. 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.020 It's too early in the morning. Do you have one? 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:19.800 No, of course not. 0:10:20.020 --> 0:10:20.840 Okay. All right. 0:10:21.179 --> 0:10:23.459 Coming up next, Paul has a warm take on a 0:10:23.500 --> 0:10:25.600 team he's been talking about for a long time, the 0:10:25.620 --> 0:10:29.380 Milwaukee Brewers. And I dive into my new superstar quarterback. 0:10:29.420 --> 0:10:30.559 That's next, Not So Fast. 0:10:30.590 --> 0:10:36.470 All right, Pearl, back on Not So Fast. Here is 0:10:36.490 --> 0:10:39.490 the midday pick-me-up. Brewers by the ninth. 0:10:39.830 --> 0:10:40.090 Bango. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.070 Gets through. Seeing eye singles, I like to call it. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:45.000 Play at the plate. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:45.920 No dice. 0:10:46.070 --> 0:10:49.270 Jackson Churio, Mason Miller. The place goes wild. 0:10:49.710 --> 0:10:50.590 Yeah, that was fun. 0:10:50.610 --> 0:10:52.610 Let me walk you through that at bat. Mason Miller, 0:10:52.650 --> 0:10:58.600 the flamethrower for the Padres. 101, 102, 104, 101, and 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.340 Jackson Churio puts it right through the box. 0:11:01.020 --> 0:11:02.860 Yeah, I mean, Miz hit 105, too. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:03.059 Yep. 0:11:04.250 --> 0:11:05.910 These numbers are kind of silly, Paul. 0:11:06.050 --> 0:11:06.410 It's fun. 0:11:06.429 --> 0:11:07.930 That was a great ending for the Brewers. I'm going 0:11:07.950 --> 0:11:09.850 to stay with the Brewers. It's time for warm takes. 0:11:10.110 --> 0:11:11.290 Pass and pro-off, not so fast. 0:11:11.370 --> 0:11:12.010 I'll go first. 0:11:12.410 --> 0:11:15.050 Warm take time. If you're a Brewers fan, you've got 0:11:15.070 --> 0:11:17.080 to be out of your mind this morning. It feels 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.020 like your time. You have 103 wins. You're up 2-0 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.140 against the Padres in the playoffs. Even the Dodgers have 0:11:23.179 --> 0:11:24.459 a loss in the playoffs. You may not have to 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.040 face them. Mizorowski, 105 with his first pitch of the night. 0:11:28.460 --> 0:11:30.720 You've made the playoffs eight of the last nine years. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.640 If not now, when? The Brewers are kind of this 0:11:33.710 --> 0:11:36.030 feel-good team, and they've been a feel-good team for a while. 0:11:36.610 --> 0:11:38.329 And sometimes a team needs to get over the hump. 0:11:38.750 --> 0:11:41.069 I go back to the 15 Cubs. Very good team. 0:11:41.110 --> 0:11:43.709 They couldn't get past people. They won it the next year. 0:11:44.170 --> 0:11:46.339 This feels like destiny year for the Brewers. If somehow 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.240 you could avoid the Dodgers in round two, that would 0:11:49.260 --> 0:11:51.320 be fantastic. But you can't count on that. You have 0:11:51.340 --> 0:11:53.260 to think to yourselves, we're going to beat them. You've 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.339 got to go back to 1982. They were in the 0:11:55.380 --> 0:11:57.160 World Series. You know every player on that team, the 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:57.830 82 Brewers. 0:11:58.110 --> 0:11:59.930 That was one of my favorite teams as a little kid. 0:12:00.030 --> 0:12:00.449 Absolutely. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.579 But the Dodgers are right ahead. If you look at 0:12:03.620 --> 0:12:06.720 this play, bango. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:07.230 There it is. 0:12:07.570 --> 0:12:10.290 Brewers fans were out of hand. Everything has their place 0:12:10.330 --> 0:12:12.410 in time. It feels like the Brewers' place in time. 0:12:12.809 --> 0:12:15.470 A couple wins, get through, face the Dodgers, take down 0:12:15.490 --> 0:12:18.040 the Dodgers, get to the World Series. And you may 0:12:18.059 --> 0:12:19.960 only get this once in a generation or once in 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.860 every other generation. But Brewers, this is your time. Make 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:23.120 it happen. 0:12:23.420 --> 0:12:25.940 No, you've been selling me the Brewers, and I'm totally buying. 0:12:25.980 --> 0:12:28.819 This feels like the year. That being said, if Atlanta 0:12:28.860 --> 0:12:31.620 finds a way to beat the Dodgers, then Atlanta can 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.150 find a way to beat anybody. I know it's 1-1, 0:12:34.470 --> 0:12:36.570 but it's interesting to me that when you crunch the numbers, 0:12:36.650 --> 0:12:38.550 Atlanta has a shot in this series. 0:12:38.570 --> 0:12:39.990 You know, I know we're a long way away from 0:12:40.010 --> 0:12:42.930 this World Series, but let's say somehow it's White Sox 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.679 versus Brewers in a World Series. Who's the feel-good team? 0:12:47.150 --> 0:12:49.410 Oh, I mean, the White Sox got one in 05. 0:12:49.410 --> 0:12:50.200 Right, but the White Sox. 0:12:50.210 --> 0:12:51.770 I think the Brewers still... Still. 0:12:52.290 --> 0:12:53.809 You can't have two feel-good teams. Can you have two 0:12:53.850 --> 0:12:54.390 feel-good teams? 0:12:54.630 --> 0:12:56.709 Well, everyone likes the Brewers in my generation. It'd be 0:12:56.730 --> 0:12:59.600 Robin Youn and Paul Molitor. We all love those guys. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.140 2016 World Series, Cleveland Indians at the time versus the Cubs. 0:13:03.179 --> 0:13:03.960 That was two feel-goods. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.400 And that was a heck of a series. Okay, I'm 0:13:07.420 --> 0:13:09.280 going to go to the NFL for my warm take. 0:13:09.740 --> 0:13:13.290 The Jacksonville Jaguars. Talking about feel-good, talking about breaking through. 0:13:13.929 --> 0:13:16.850 This could be the year. They're a little Milwaukee Brewers-esque, Paul. 0:13:16.890 --> 0:13:17.130 All right. 0:13:17.590 --> 0:13:20.630 The Jacksonville Jaguars, top five in defense, and they have 0:13:20.790 --> 0:13:24.330 plenty of offense. Now, what impressed me was when they 0:13:24.390 --> 0:13:27.410 lost a close game to Denver, another AFC contender, it 0:13:27.450 --> 0:13:30.010 looked like they didn't know how to close games. On Sunday, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.460 they closed the games against Cincinnati and Joe Burrow. 0:13:33.740 --> 0:13:34.720 It was the defense. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.580 The defense got to Burrow eventually, and that's a hard assignment, Paul. 0:13:38.860 --> 0:13:41.880 I was really impressed with their defense, and Trevor Lawrence 0:13:41.900 --> 0:13:44.520 looks great with Liam Cohen. Reminds me a little bit 0:13:44.540 --> 0:13:47.030 of last year's Seattle, because you had Mike McDonald with Seattle, 0:13:47.050 --> 0:13:49.830 a coach that not everybody knew, but seemed to really, 0:13:50.410 --> 0:13:53.590 the team bought into him. Same with Liam Cohen, fiery guy, 0:13:54.030 --> 0:13:56.830 offensive guru, as it were. So I think everything is 0:13:56.890 --> 0:13:59.459 moving in the right direction for Jacksonville. I'm really excited. 0:13:59.820 --> 0:14:02.020 I know the Chiefs are 4-0, but I got to 0:14:02.059 --> 0:14:04.220 tell you, when I look at the AFC picture, and 0:14:04.260 --> 0:14:06.620 if I could have a mulligan, I would strongly consider 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:06.940 the Jags. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.760 I would give you a mulligan. My comp for the 0:14:08.780 --> 0:14:11.610 Jaguars this year is Indiana University football last year. 0:14:11.620 --> 0:14:11.939 Love it. 0:14:12.110 --> 0:14:14.850 Kurt Cignetti, this wild guy from James Madison who no 0:14:14.910 --> 0:14:16.750 one bought into. Remember he said, Google me, all I 0:14:16.790 --> 0:14:19.750 do is win. Remember Liam Cohen's press conference? He did 0:14:19.770 --> 0:14:21.630 the Duval thing and everyone was like, this guy's nuts. 0:14:21.990 --> 0:14:23.810 He's doing well, and I've seen him in interviews. He's 0:14:23.850 --> 0:14:24.670 a really smart guy. 0:14:24.730 --> 0:14:27.580 Well, Nick Sirianni was psychotic in his first press conference. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:28.360 He won a Super Bowl. 0:14:28.380 --> 0:14:29.440 He was sweating all over the place. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.560 I think that's the new trend is be really weird 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:32.980 in your introductory press conference. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.220 Yeah, if you're crazy, we make fun of it during 0:14:35.260 --> 0:14:36.340 that day, but you're great later. 0:14:36.540 --> 0:14:39.280 Yeah, I really like Liam Cohen. The funny thing, Liam 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.200 Cohen can go totally bananas. 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.330 But he's mild-mannered most of the time. A lot like 0:14:43.370 --> 0:14:45.890 the Bears coach, Ben Johnson. There's a new wave of 0:14:45.950 --> 0:14:48.230 coaches coming. I don't want to break down. They have 0:14:48.250 --> 0:14:51.190 a great defensive coordinator, And this could be the next 0:14:51.230 --> 0:14:52.910 team with a young head coach that we don't know. 0:14:52.970 --> 0:14:55.010 Great win for your Jaguars. All right, my next warm 0:14:55.030 --> 0:14:57.460 take is this. I like to call these hangover games 0:14:57.510 --> 0:15:00.100 in college football. You win a big game, you lose 0:15:00.140 --> 0:15:02.440 the next week. Remember Ole Miss beating LSU a couple 0:15:02.460 --> 0:15:05.180 weeks ago? Then they gave it up versus Florida. It 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.340 happened the other day. Florida takes down Ole Miss last week. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.660 Everyone gets on the Florida bandwagon. Then Florida doesn't do 0:15:11.750 --> 0:15:16.720 very well at all going against Mississippi State. This happens 0:15:16.750 --> 0:15:16.930 a lot. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:17.440 Against Missouri. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.400 Yeah, Missouri, my bad. And this happens a lot. And 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.960 teams that you want to jump on the bandwagon of, 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.720 Mississippi State was one of those. They were the flavor 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.700 last week. Mississippi State, Camario Taylor. And they just get 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.820 the doors blown off them versus Bama. You get a 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.130 week to yourself in college football. And Florida had it 0:15:35.170 --> 0:15:37.190 last week, and Mississippi State had it last week. And 0:15:37.210 --> 0:15:39.250 they just absolutely, you know what, the bed this weekend. 0:15:39.710 --> 0:15:41.430 And it's tough because now you go to the back 0:15:41.450 --> 0:15:43.710 of the line. We have short attention spans in the media. 0:15:44.130 --> 0:15:46.440 And right now, Florida, you've got to wait. Mississippi State, 0:15:46.460 --> 0:15:47.820 you've got to wait. You're going to need a big 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.930 October win to get our attention again. Florida and Mississippi State, 0:15:50.990 --> 0:15:53.450 they have some big games in October. But when you 0:15:53.490 --> 0:15:56.030 lose after we love you, we don't love you for 0:15:56.070 --> 0:15:58.320 a while. So take the day off. But now it's Missouri. 0:15:59.050 --> 0:16:00.860 Everyone's going to be on the Missouri bandwagon for a 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.660 couple days and see how they do. See if they 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.220 can keep it rolling or they go to the back 0:16:04.260 --> 0:16:04.580 of the line. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.510 Well, can I... Share a theory. 0:16:06.910 --> 0:16:10.310 Maybe the SEC is just not that good. Maybe Florida 0:16:10.330 --> 0:16:12.630 beating Ole Miss. Maybe Ole Miss isn't that good. Maybe 0:16:12.970 --> 0:16:14.990 Ole Miss beating LSU. Maybe LSU is not that good. 0:16:15.250 --> 0:16:16.650 Maybe these teams are all medium. 0:16:16.850 --> 0:16:19.650 So, okay, so the second tier of the LSU, of 0:16:19.740 --> 0:16:22.160 like the SEC is not that great, but what about 0:16:22.260 --> 0:16:22.940 Alabama and Georgia? 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:23.760 Well, that's a two. 0:16:23.940 --> 0:16:26.080 Alabama and Georgia, I don't know that they're that great. 0:16:26.420 --> 0:16:29.660 Georgia hasn't played anybody. And Alabama, since when do we 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.590 credit Alabama for beating Mississippi State? What world am I 0:16:32.650 --> 0:16:33.870 living in where that's a big win? 0:16:33.910 --> 0:16:37.570 Well, Alabama has suffered the hangover from last year's when 0:16:37.590 --> 0:16:40.010 they didn't do so well against Indiana, and that's being nice. 0:16:40.330 --> 0:16:42.320 When they got blown out in the playoffs versus Indiana, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.770 that was debilitating on the national schedule. And so Alabama 0:16:45.810 --> 0:16:47.590 has to almost run the table to get back in 0:16:47.610 --> 0:16:48.390 the thick of it. 0:16:48.450 --> 0:16:51.470 But Missouri. Missouri's always ranked, but I don't know. You know, 0:16:51.490 --> 0:16:54.790 you lose 45-10 or whatever it was. I'm disappointed. I 0:16:54.810 --> 0:16:56.330 think the SEC might be overrated. 0:16:56.510 --> 0:16:58.350 And listen, I know no one's going to like that 0:16:58.390 --> 0:17:00.270 down south, but I think in Big Ten country they 0:17:00.310 --> 0:17:01.070 would totally agree. 0:17:01.090 --> 0:17:01.670 Huge down south. 0:17:01.700 --> 0:17:03.460 All right, I'm going to talk about a former SEC 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.220 quarterback who now looks like he did in college at Alabama, 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:07.959 and that. 0:17:07.900 --> 0:17:09.840 Is Bryce Young. You know, I was on the fence 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:10.460 with Bryce Young. 0:17:11.300 --> 0:17:13.940 He is officially declared good. He's declared good. I'm putting 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.240 the Perloff stamp of good. Now, I'll take it a 0:17:17.500 --> 0:17:18.260 step further. 0:17:18.580 --> 0:17:19.760 And this might be controversial. 0:17:19.780 --> 0:17:22.109 Maybe it's because it's a 20-year anniversary of what happened 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.830 in New Orleans when the Saints came back from Katrina. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.260 I think he might be Drew Brees-like. Now, he reminds 0:17:29.300 --> 0:17:31.399 me of Drew Brees in the sense he's not big 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.500 and he always knows where to go with the football. 0:17:33.540 --> 0:17:36.730 Last night against Detroit, he started out 11 for 11. 0:17:36.730 --> 0:17:40.150 Seems like he's finally mastered that offense. And like Drew 0:17:40.170 --> 0:17:42.450 Brees was with Sean Payton, I think he's a good 0:17:42.470 --> 0:17:46.160 marriage with Dave Canales in Carolina. I think their defense 0:17:46.220 --> 0:17:49.500 is terrible. Lost their two starting cornerbacks. So that's going 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.659 to help Detroit. created a lot of shootouts, and I 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.600 think Bryce Young, who is the leading passer in the 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.460 NFL right now, will keep up these big numbers, and 0:17:56.500 --> 0:17:57.760 that's very Drew Brees. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.160 Why not, Paul? Why can't Bryce Young be Drew Brees? 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.280 Well, I think he can, and if you watched that 0:18:02.300 --> 0:18:04.090 game yesterday, he was just dealing all over the field, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.430 not getting rushed. It goes back to his rookie year 0:18:06.490 --> 0:18:08.570 and his second year. He was declared a bust, but 0:18:08.630 --> 0:18:10.709 he was set up to fail. Go back to that 0:18:10.790 --> 0:18:13.169 trade when Carolina gave all that draft capital to the 0:18:13.210 --> 0:18:14.200 Bears to move up. 0:18:14.570 --> 0:18:15.010 They had no. 0:18:14.970 --> 0:18:16.810 Roster around them. They got rid of DJ Moore. They 0:18:16.850 --> 0:18:19.940 had no offensive line, and everyone's like, This guy's a bust. No, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.320 the team around him was the bust. He was good. 0:18:22.740 --> 0:18:24.990 He fought through it. He played well. If you said 0:18:25.030 --> 0:18:27.190 right now, who would you give a big extension to? 0:18:27.670 --> 0:18:28.030 C.J. 0:18:28.070 --> 0:18:29.630 Stroud or Bryce Young? 0:18:29.660 --> 0:18:29.800 Yeah. 0:18:30.190 --> 0:18:31.030 Where do you think the money would be? 0:18:31.090 --> 0:18:33.570 Well, Stroud actually is playing very well right now. 0:18:33.890 --> 0:18:34.629 I think both get him. 0:18:34.690 --> 0:18:36.550 The fact that that's a debate. The fact that that's 0:18:36.570 --> 0:18:38.930 a really fair debate when C.J. Stroud, two and a 0:18:38.950 --> 0:18:40.869 half years ago, was the future of the sport. 0:18:41.030 --> 0:18:42.930 Well, the reality is it's the NFL. Both are getting 0:18:42.990 --> 0:18:45.370 big money, probably. But Bryce Young, you're right, it's been 0:18:45.390 --> 0:18:48.270 incredibly impressive. You know why there was no pass rush 0:18:48.310 --> 0:18:50.169 last night? Because Bryce Young got rid of it, and 0:18:50.210 --> 0:18:52.290 he kept running away from Aidan Hutchinson. I'm sure if 0:18:52.330 --> 0:18:54.729 you're a Detroit fan, you're quite miserable. But that's what 0:18:54.780 --> 0:18:57.260 he can do. It's a very smart offense right now. 0:18:57.300 --> 0:18:59.780 He's also a smart runner. He doesn't take unnecessary hits. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:00.700 So far. So far. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:01.900 We're probably jinxing him. 0:19:02.140 --> 0:19:04.280 Yeah, of course. His rookie year, he was all over 0:19:04.300 --> 0:19:06.980 the place. But now, when he runs, zip right out 0:19:07.020 --> 0:19:09.260 of bounds. Like early Russell Wilson, don't be a tough guy. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.280 And it might also be Ted Arroyo and McMillan is 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.260 that good. So maybe his number one wide receiver is 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:14.860 helping a lot. 0:19:14.859 --> 0:19:15.960 12 catches for him. 0:19:15.980 --> 0:19:16.219 All right. 0:19:16.380 --> 0:19:19.440 It's time for Not So Good. What was the worst performance, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.780 worst player, whatever it may be. We try not to 0:19:21.820 --> 0:19:25.370 go loser. Not so good from the weekend, specifically NFL. 0:19:25.460 --> 0:19:27.790 I will go first. I think we agree on this one. 0:19:27.850 --> 0:19:29.899 This was a tie. We both put in. These Chargers. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:31.000 0-4. 0:19:31.460 --> 0:19:33.460 At some point, we can't hope for the best in 0:19:33.500 --> 0:19:35.240 the next week. I know they were playing the Seahawks, 0:19:35.260 --> 0:19:37.699 and that's a really good defense. But you need one 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.030 game where you outperform the expectations. They were terrible yesterday 0:19:41.050 --> 0:19:43.550 from the jump. Pick on the first play. They had 0:19:43.590 --> 0:19:45.429 some plays in the second half where they made it interesting, 0:19:45.450 --> 0:19:46.810 but it was too late. It was too late. 0:19:47.190 --> 0:19:49.889 I worry about Justin Herbert. He's a big target. 0:19:50.230 --> 0:19:51.510 At the end of the game, he got hit in 0:19:51.530 --> 0:19:54.270 the ribs, and I can't believe he stayed in the game. 0:19:54.830 --> 0:19:56.250 He looked like he had broken a rib, and he 0:19:56.310 --> 0:19:58.770 probably did, but he was playing tough guy. I think 0:19:58.790 --> 0:20:01.690 they're so desperate to do something. Justin Herbert is using 0:20:01.730 --> 0:20:03.760 his legs a lot. They want to win so badly 0:20:03.780 --> 0:20:04.720 that he's risking his health. 0:20:04.740 --> 0:20:06.429 All right, I got a bonus not so good for you. 0:20:06.780 --> 0:20:09.179 The Eagles' fourth quarter against the Rams, they had the 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.540 Rams dead to rights. They had a 10-point lead. How 0:20:11.580 --> 0:20:12.660 not so good was the Eagles' loss? 0:20:12.900 --> 0:20:14.760 You mean when you go 0 for 12 on third 0:20:14.780 --> 0:20:17.600 down and blow a massive lead when you have third 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:18.040 and goal? 0:20:18.510 --> 0:20:21.330 Of course, it was terrible. Everything about it was awful, Paul. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.190 Is there any doubt? How not so good? Really not 0:20:25.210 --> 0:20:27.330 so good because of the injuries. That's what worries me 0:20:27.350 --> 0:20:29.030 about the Eagles. Forget the loss. The Rams are a 0:20:29.050 --> 0:20:29.450 great team. 0:20:30.250 --> 0:20:33.369 Lane Johnson was out for undisclosed reasons, the right tackle. 0:20:33.690 --> 0:20:37.750 That worries me big time. Defensive injuries, offensive injuries. When 0:20:37.790 --> 0:20:40.389 Saquon goes out, I actually didn't think they should have 0:20:40.410 --> 0:20:42.130 been leading that game. I was shocked they were leading 0:20:42.150 --> 0:20:44.450 the whole way because they weren't doing anything. They still 0:20:44.470 --> 0:20:46.260 could have gotten away with a win, so that's frustrating. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.900 But I have much bigger picture worries about the Eagles. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.760 All right, a lot more NFL coming up. But coming 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.180 up next, we hit the college football weekend. Our boy 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.420 Yogi Roth of NBC Sports, the entire college football weekend 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.080 and next week. Stick around. Not so fast. 0:20:59.290 --> 0:21:01.450 Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's 0:21:01.510 --> 0:21:02.230 Paul Paps. 0:21:02.570 --> 0:21:04.689 Now, Paul, I understand you got some college football in 0:21:04.770 --> 0:21:05.570 person this weekend. 0:21:05.650 --> 0:21:05.970 Oh, yeah. 0:21:05.990 --> 0:21:10.660 I went to a big-time, huge, rough-and-tumble matchup. Brown hosting URI, Rhodey. 0:21:11.420 --> 0:21:12.990 Oh, boy. Who came out on top? 0:21:13.150 --> 0:21:15.250 You know who came out. Rhodey football. They brought home 0:21:15.310 --> 0:21:17.590 the old crab cake or whatever the word is. It 0:21:17.630 --> 0:21:18.390 was great. Good football. 0:21:18.410 --> 0:21:20.730 All right, let's go to the absolute opposite end of 0:21:20.750 --> 0:21:24.630 the college football spectrum and bring in our guest, NBC 0:21:24.650 --> 0:21:27.369 Sports College football analyst Yogi Roth. Yogi, I want to 0:21:27.410 --> 0:21:32.590 start down south. Kamario Taylor, Keelan Russell, showdown, Alabama, Mississippi State. 0:21:33.030 --> 0:21:36.090 Turned out it didn't make much of a showdown. It 0:21:36.109 --> 0:21:38.520 was all Keelan Russell. What was your take off that game? 0:21:39.530 --> 0:21:40.689 Well, it was so fun to watch. 0:21:40.770 --> 0:21:42.350 You know, last time we talked as you guys kicked 0:21:42.410 --> 0:21:45.310 off your brand new show, we talked about the quarterback development. 0:21:45.510 --> 0:21:47.310 And I get to see these guys at 16. Both 0:21:47.330 --> 0:21:49.350 of these guys we had at our summer camp called 0:21:49.369 --> 0:21:51.389 the Elite 11. So think like American Idol for high 0:21:51.410 --> 0:21:54.010 school quarterbacks. Both of them were there. You could tell 0:21:54.310 --> 0:21:56.889 how talented they were. And I'm so just intrigued to 0:21:56.930 --> 0:21:59.210 see what would happen in the game. You know, sadly, 0:21:59.850 --> 0:22:01.790 Camario goes down with an injury. And then you look 0:22:01.810 --> 0:22:04.300 at the other side and Keelan Russell in Alabama. They 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.360 just look like it's year three, right? Like you look 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.420 at Kalen DeBoer and everything he's done there. I think 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.690 Keelan Russell was special. He's one of those few guys 0:22:10.710 --> 0:22:13.189 you put in like select company at that stage in 0:22:13.230 --> 0:22:17.010 high school, like Tua, Trevor, Jameis. Like there's a couple 0:22:17.030 --> 0:22:19.570 guys that we've seen when they were 16, 17 years old. 0:22:19.590 --> 0:22:22.369 They're like, oh yeah, look out. Like they're coming. He 0:22:22.390 --> 0:22:24.970 was definitely in that conversation. Just the type of young 0:22:25.010 --> 0:22:27.450 man that he was, the mentality. And then you watch 0:22:27.470 --> 0:22:30.260 him throughout the season. He just keeps progressing. Not surprised 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.560 in Ryan Grubb's offense, what Kalen DeBoer is doing. 0:22:32.580 --> 0:22:33.120 So huge win. 0:22:33.490 --> 0:22:35.169 For the Crimson Tide, and I don't think people are 0:22:35.190 --> 0:22:37.409 talking about them enough. I think they're a legit national 0:22:37.430 --> 0:22:38.330 championship contender. 0:22:38.350 --> 0:22:39.970 I think they'll get better as the season goes on. 0:22:40.190 --> 0:22:42.630 Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because Alabama's getting 0:22:42.670 --> 0:22:44.629 very little coverage this year, which is odd, but it's 0:22:44.650 --> 0:22:47.650 the way they finished the playoffs last year. And they're 0:22:47.670 --> 0:22:50.020 playing against Georgia next weekend, and Georgia seems to be 0:22:50.060 --> 0:22:52.660 in the same boat. All Georgia's doing is comfortably winning 0:22:52.700 --> 0:22:55.260 football games, but they don't have a Matthew Stafford. They 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.159 don't even have a defensive star. It's like they're not star-laden, 0:22:58.180 --> 0:23:00.139 and they're not getting the coverage. How good is Georgia? 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:02.280 I think they're a really good team. 0:23:02.730 --> 0:23:04.800 And I think that's a huge part of, obviously, finding 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.000 success in this era of college football, being connected. You 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:09.500 don't see a lot of loaves. You watch them play. 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.820 Not any finger pointing. The culture is clearly set. But 0:23:13.060 --> 0:23:14.820 when I look at Alabama, I think they're the more 0:23:14.859 --> 0:23:17.060 talented team. It's going to be a challenge. We know that, 0:23:17.260 --> 0:23:19.560 especially when you look at their recent history. But I 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.300 like Alabama in this one. I think that Kalen DeBoer's 0:23:22.340 --> 0:23:23.980 got a phrase that he's had since he's been a 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.580 head coach. I remember it back at Fresno State, of course, 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.659 at Washington and Alabama. You're built for this. And I 0:23:30.700 --> 0:23:32.689 think that their team has that. When I watch them, 0:23:32.710 --> 0:23:35.490 I'm just saying to myself, man, this is a team 0:23:35.510 --> 0:23:37.190 that I think lessons learned from last year in the 0:23:37.230 --> 0:23:39.409 Rose Bowl when they got smoked by Indiana. We all 0:23:39.430 --> 0:23:42.129 know that game. I think this team is going to 0:23:42.150 --> 0:23:44.910 march forward. It won't be easy. But I also think 0:23:44.970 --> 0:23:47.940 in offensive football, the trends this year and the last 0:23:47.980 --> 0:23:50.119 couple years, if you've got playmakers, which they do, if 0:23:50.140 --> 0:23:51.580 you can push the ball down the field and you've 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:51.940 got a guy. 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.320 A quarterback that can handle it, I think they win. Now, 0:23:54.380 --> 0:23:54.900 it's not easy. 0:23:54.940 --> 0:23:56.680 It's his first start in this type of game, in 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.189 this environment, of course. But I like Keelan Russell. I 0:23:59.210 --> 0:24:00.250 think Alabama gets one here. 0:24:01.030 --> 0:24:03.010 Yogi, I know you know quarterbacks really well. 0:24:03.430 --> 0:24:06.689 Watching Notre Dame-North Carolina this weekend, and I watched CJ Carr, 0:24:07.109 --> 0:24:10.090 maybe not the most talented player in college football, but 0:24:10.150 --> 0:24:12.850 he looks like an NFL guy to me. At the 0:24:12.890 --> 0:24:15.129 line of scrimmage, he looks like he knows what he's doing. 0:24:15.450 --> 0:24:16.530 What do you think his future is? 0:24:17.510 --> 0:24:19.570 Yeah, we had him two weeks ago, called the Purdue game. 0:24:19.670 --> 0:24:21.909 And you just watch him operate at the line of scrimmage, 0:24:21.930 --> 0:24:22.990 everything's shoulders and above. 0:24:23.670 --> 0:24:25.420 He's getting in and out of so many cool plays. 0:24:25.460 --> 0:24:28.780 And I love when cameras and the microphones can capture, 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.399 you know, his dialect, but also his clap. So a 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.200 lot of times teams that play in the gun, Notre 0:24:33.220 --> 0:24:35.140 Dame plays a lot of shotgun offense primarily. 0:24:35.859 --> 0:24:37.619 You're just a clap, right? It's just one clap and 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:38.280 here comes the ball. 0:24:38.300 --> 0:24:41.800 But he's fake clapping, three claps, like clap, show your hands, 0:24:41.820 --> 0:24:43.700 like all these little things. Why is he doing it? 0:24:44.060 --> 0:24:45.520 He's doing it to try to get a tell. What's 0:24:45.580 --> 0:24:49.040 Belichick's defense doing? What's Miami going to be doing? What's 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:53.040 BYU going to be doing? Those are little nuanced elements 0:24:53.060 --> 0:24:55.340 where he can see just a foot up, a foot back, 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.090 a lean by a safety. 0:24:57.369 --> 0:24:59.550 And that's why you're seeing him be absolutely surgical. 0:25:00.390 --> 0:25:03.290 I know his numbers aren't crazy stupid, but to me, 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.690 He's played at the highest level of any quarterback in 0:25:06.710 --> 0:25:07.390 the country this year. 0:25:07.470 --> 0:25:10.469 I hate to interrupt you, but I'm glad you explained that. 0:25:10.570 --> 0:25:11.810 I thought he was going like this to try to 0:25:11.850 --> 0:25:13.330 get him to snap the ball like they weren't getting 0:25:13.350 --> 0:25:14.150 the ball fast enough. 0:25:15.090 --> 0:25:16.790 Yeah, no, it's fascinating to watch. We broke it down 0:25:16.810 --> 0:25:18.149 in our game. If you want to go back and 0:25:18.170 --> 0:25:19.889 watch the Purdue game, congrats Purdue on a win. They 0:25:19.910 --> 0:25:22.750 finally got a conference win. But he's here and it's boom. 0:25:23.109 --> 0:25:24.780 And then it's boom, boom. And then it's boom, clap. 0:25:25.790 --> 0:25:26.270 Fake your hands. 0:25:26.310 --> 0:25:26.990 Fake it. 0:25:27.030 --> 0:25:29.649 He's doing all these little things, but he's getting intel. 0:25:29.710 --> 0:25:32.169 His center's getting intel. His backs are getting intel. It's 0:25:32.210 --> 0:25:34.410 a veteran-laden group in that regard. They've got to find 0:25:34.470 --> 0:25:36.310 who's going to be their lead back, but maybe they 0:25:36.350 --> 0:25:37.850 won't have one. Maybe they'll have three of them. We 0:25:37.869 --> 0:25:40.930 saw the freshman go off against Carolina, but I really 0:25:40.970 --> 0:25:44.399 just like this team because they very rarely have negative plays. 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:45.980 I think as you go into. 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.399 Bigger games, bigger environments, college football playoff, if Notre Dame 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.240 can handle business like we think and find their way 0:25:51.260 --> 0:25:52.280 to the postseason this. 0:25:52.180 --> 0:25:54.740 Season, you can't have negative plays. 0:25:54.780 --> 0:25:57.950 And At times, you can overanalyze, and I think you've 0:25:58.050 --> 0:26:00.830 also watched Notre Dame go fast and say, hey, forget it. 0:26:00.830 --> 0:26:03.330 We've got a great play. Let's move. One clap and 0:26:03.350 --> 0:26:05.530 let's go, or vocal cadence and let's roll. 0:26:05.650 --> 0:26:10.050 I think that type of unique duality within C.J. Carr 0:26:10.070 --> 0:26:12.350 and this offense is going to allow them to continue 0:26:12.369 --> 0:26:13.730 to have tremendous success. 0:26:13.750 --> 0:26:16.790 I know you got NBC this weekend, USC at Penn State. 0:26:17.050 --> 0:26:20.670 How vital was USC beating Washington this weekend for Lincoln-Riley? 0:26:21.490 --> 0:26:23.580 Man, you know, I heard you guys talk about your weekend, right? 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.159 You went to a great game. I had a weekend 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.200 off too. So I took my son, our oldest son, 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:28.240 to SC Washington. 0:26:28.260 --> 0:26:28.500 Okay. 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:29.979 And the final play of the game is like right 0:26:30.010 --> 0:26:31.930 in front of us. And we're watching this thing shake out. 0:26:32.380 --> 0:26:34.980 Both of those programs, backs against the wall. They both 0:26:35.020 --> 0:26:37.820 needed to win. It's the same deal this weekend for 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.000 Penn State, backs against the wall. And I think it's 0:26:40.020 --> 0:26:42.200 the same way for USC. They've got to try to 0:26:42.220 --> 0:26:44.950 win their next two, which won't be easy. And then 0:26:45.030 --> 0:26:48.310 can you host Ohio State on Halloween night? And now 0:26:48.369 --> 0:26:50.929 it's very similar to what happened against Oregon. Place will 0:26:50.970 --> 0:26:52.870 be rocking. You'll have an opportunity to make a statement. 0:26:52.950 --> 0:26:54.890 We'll see what will happen. But it will not be easy. 0:26:54.930 --> 0:26:57.610 I think the biggest takeaway I had was that SC 0:26:57.650 --> 0:26:58.330 was able to regroup. 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:00.300 I mean, I live in L.A., man. 0:27:00.380 --> 0:27:03.399 The last week in advance of this past weekend's game, 0:27:03.940 --> 0:27:07.280 the vitriol was crazy. And it was because the hype 0:27:07.340 --> 0:27:09.770 was also crazy. If they beat Oregon, the roof was 0:27:09.810 --> 0:27:13.550 coming off. They lose in a dramatic fashion, off the field, 0:27:13.570 --> 0:27:15.030 all the stuff on the sideline, as I'm sure you 0:27:15.050 --> 0:27:15.970 talked about all week long. 0:27:16.609 --> 0:27:18.229 They were able to come together. 0:27:18.369 --> 0:27:20.270 And Todd Blackledge and I were talking about earlier this 0:27:20.310 --> 0:27:23.780 week on our podcast of everybody thinks that the culture 0:27:23.930 --> 0:27:27.200 was fractured after that hit and after what transpired on 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.649 the sidelines. I'm around that program probably as much as 0:27:29.670 --> 0:27:32.290 anybody in America, and I just don't believe that. I 0:27:32.310 --> 0:27:34.230 don't believe that. I think they're a really tight-knit group, 0:27:34.250 --> 0:27:36.090 and I'm glad that they showed it. The way they 0:27:36.130 --> 0:27:38.689 had to come from behind, down two scores. They had 0:27:38.750 --> 0:27:42.260 that defensive sack, cause fumble. for a touchdown, big play, 0:27:42.740 --> 0:27:45.460 lights up the Coliseum, the game flips. And now can 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:46.810 they go do it on the road where they've had 0:27:46.830 --> 0:27:48.480 a lot of trouble? And this is a really proud 0:27:48.530 --> 0:27:51.270 Penn State team with Rocco Beck, and they have underperformed 0:27:51.290 --> 0:27:52.750 based on, I think, what we thought they would be. 0:27:53.230 --> 0:27:55.670 So SC is going to get their very best in 0:27:55.710 --> 0:27:57.170 a whiteout. Man, I can't wait. 0:27:57.190 --> 0:27:58.649 I grew up in Pennsylvania. I can't wait to go 0:27:58.690 --> 0:27:59.570 back and watch this thing. 0:28:00.090 --> 0:28:00.730 Awesome. Okay. 0:28:01.050 --> 0:28:03.930 You mentioned Ohio State. Jeremiah Smith, number one in Heisman 0:28:04.010 --> 0:28:06.530 odds right now. Can he hold on to that spot? 0:28:06.550 --> 0:28:09.350 He sure seems like he's way ahead of everybody else 0:28:09.430 --> 0:28:10.250 for the big award. 0:28:11.270 --> 0:28:15.250 You know, as a voter, he's got everybody's attention. I'll 0:28:15.290 --> 0:28:15.690 say that. 0:28:16.170 --> 0:28:19.010 He reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald, my old roommate from 0:28:19.010 --> 0:28:21.590 20 years ago when he was so dominant. And he 0:28:21.630 --> 0:28:24.290 should have won the Heisman that year. Now, social media 0:28:24.369 --> 0:28:27.230 wasn't popping. You know, you didn't have the campaigns that 0:28:27.270 --> 0:28:29.750 people have. And Pitt was an Ohio State. I hate 0:28:29.770 --> 0:28:31.649 to even admit that, but that's just the case. And 0:28:31.690 --> 0:28:33.950 that's the reality. And I don't think there's an analyst 0:28:33.990 --> 0:28:36.470 in the country or voter that is going to argue 0:28:36.750 --> 0:28:38.990 that Jeremiah Smith's the best overall player. 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:40.959 I don't think anybody would have argued it last year. 0:28:41.020 --> 0:28:41.320 I didn't. 0:28:41.420 --> 0:28:43.000 I mean, he was on my final ballot because I 0:28:43.020 --> 0:28:45.580 thought he was that dominant. So, yeah, I think if 0:28:45.620 --> 0:28:48.180 he can continue to put up 200-yard games, of course. 0:28:48.620 --> 0:28:50.590 But I think we also have to look at reality. 0:28:50.850 --> 0:28:53.230 There's not a team on Ohio State's schedule that isn't 0:28:53.250 --> 0:28:55.270 going to try to take him away. And Ohio State's 0:28:55.310 --> 0:28:57.970 smart enough to not just force him the ball in 0:28:57.990 --> 0:29:00.469 double coverage. They've got other weapons. So I think it's 0:29:00.490 --> 0:29:02.860 going to be a storyline for sure. But is he 0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.940 the most outstanding player in college football right. 0:29:04.860 --> 0:29:07.340 Around the midseason mark? No question. He might have been 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:07.960 as a freshman. 0:29:08.380 --> 0:29:10.280 As a sophomore, and then I think this year in 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:11.720 his third year with Ohio State. 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.200 I mean, Yogi, I assumed you were like that in 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:15.680 high school and college. 0:29:16.100 --> 0:29:18.180 You had a lot of Jeremiah Smith in you. 0:29:18.940 --> 0:29:19.800 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 0:29:19.820 --> 0:29:23.100 Yeah, the Suburban League in Lackawanna County was popping. 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.700 Off, man. But we threw the ball, so you pretended 0:29:24.740 --> 0:29:26.220 like you were him. I'm sure we would now. 0:29:26.860 --> 0:29:29.270 Awesome. Yogi, thanks for the time. We'll talk to you soon, bud. 0:29:29.290 --> 0:29:29.590 See you, bud. 0:29:30.140 --> 0:29:31.680 You got it. Congrats on everything, fellas. 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:32.610 Thanks. 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.450 It's a great topic. They were talking about it earlier 0:29:34.470 --> 0:29:36.690 today on the Dan Patrick Show. Jeremiah Smith, he's going 0:29:36.710 --> 0:29:38.520 to be one of the great wide receiver prospects of 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.620 all time. And I was thinking... who is the best 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.260 college wide receiver you've seen in your lifetime? I'll go first. 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.860 Larry Fitzgerald's up there because he didn't seem like the 0:29:46.900 --> 0:29:49.780 fastest guy, but he was completely unstoppable at Pitt and 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.180 just dominated people. Calvin Johnson at Georgia Tech, they didn't 0:29:53.220 --> 0:29:53.680 throw the ball. 0:29:53.700 --> 0:29:54.820 They never threw it. I know. 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.590 So it was kind of weird. And then I'm going 0:29:56.610 --> 0:29:58.630 to go really, really old school. There was a Michigan 0:29:58.670 --> 0:30:01.490 wide receiver in the early 80s named Anthony Carter, number one. 0:30:02.030 --> 0:30:04.800 He was the Tyreek Hill, a skinnier version of Tyreek 0:30:04.820 --> 0:30:05.630 Hill back in the 80s. 0:30:05.820 --> 0:30:07.660 I'm well aware because you talk about Anthony Carter all 0:30:07.700 --> 0:30:07.960 the time. 0:30:08.220 --> 0:30:10.220 You know what I was thinking about the best prospect 0:30:10.260 --> 0:30:13.080 I ever saw, and I said this, was Marvin Harrison Jr. 0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:14.000 At Ohio State. 0:30:14.020 --> 0:30:14.360 That's weird. 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.820 Who looked a lot like Jeremiah Smith, but then he's 0:30:16.860 --> 0:30:18.780 been a disappointment in the NFL, so I'm not sure 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.940 if I'm going to stick with that. By the way, 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.870 Malachi Toney in Miami is not so far from this conversation. 0:30:23.890 --> 0:30:26.730 He's a little younger. He is elite, too, but he's 0:30:26.750 --> 0:30:27.290 not Jeremiah Smith. 0:30:27.310 --> 0:30:29.290 And we can't leave off Keyshawn Johnson. He was at 0:30:29.390 --> 0:30:32.490 USC big, strong, and fast. He had everything. 0:30:32.690 --> 0:30:33.330 Yeah, awesome. 0:30:33.350 --> 0:30:36.800 All right, coming up next, Dan talks to Gerald McCoy, 0:30:37.100 --> 0:30:39.780 who weighs in on the slowest quarterback he ever faced. 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.680 You want to hear this answer, not so fast. 0:30:46.740 --> 0:30:51.930 This season averaging 162. That's third and just under 30 0:30:51.930 --> 0:30:56.950 points per game. That's because of Kenneth Walker. That's the difference. 0:30:57.350 --> 0:31:01.010 How is he not in the top five for MVP? Now, 0:31:01.030 --> 0:31:04.910 I know it's a quarterback award, but this guy is 0:31:04.970 --> 0:31:09.840 controlling the Chiefs offense. He's changed the Chiefs offense. He 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.620 is a power back with speed. There aren't many of 0:31:13.660 --> 0:31:17.420 those in the NFL, but he is their go-to guy. 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.580 He's the difference maker. And look, DraftKings, they can have 0:31:21.620 --> 0:31:24.960 their odds here, but If I ask Patrick Mahomes who's 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:28.820 the MVP on your team, he's not saying himself. He's 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.860 going to say Kenneth Walker Jr. 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:31.320 III. 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.180 Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff right here 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.600 on NBC Sports Now. This is the Clip Joint. That 0:31:37.620 --> 0:31:40.820 was DP talking about Ken Walker of the Chiefs. He 0:31:40.860 --> 0:31:42.580 was September VP on this show. 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.840 Yeah, you call that September MVP. 0:31:44.980 --> 0:31:47.620 It does frustrate you that a guy who's not a 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.030 quarterback really can't win the MVP. The last one was 0:31:50.070 --> 0:31:54.300 Adrian Peterson. That was 2012 MVP. 2015, I think it was, 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.860 and he had to have knee surgery and run for 0:31:56.900 --> 0:31:57.900 basically 2,000 yards. 0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.400 Well, why is it frustrating, though? It's a sport where 0:32:00.420 --> 0:32:02.680 the quarterback touches the ball every play. He should be 0:32:02.700 --> 0:32:05.190 the MVP. He's the highest-paid player. He's the most important player. 0:32:05.230 --> 0:32:08.030 But I would say that valuable also matters with how 0:32:08.090 --> 0:32:10.950 the team has changed. What's new on this team? They 0:32:10.970 --> 0:32:13.330 don't have any wide receivers left in the building almost, 0:32:13.410 --> 0:32:16.540 and Kenneth Walker is running like this every week. He 0:32:16.700 --> 0:32:18.980 is the most valuable guy in this roster. He's the 0:32:19.020 --> 0:32:19.440 new guy. 0:32:19.900 --> 0:32:22.540 Okay, that is true, and I agree with that point. 0:32:22.580 --> 0:32:27.030 But if you took Patrick Mahomes off this team, they're 0:32:27.050 --> 0:32:29.870 in big trouble. You could probably get by without Kenneth 0:32:29.890 --> 0:32:30.790 Walker in a pitch. 0:32:31.050 --> 0:32:33.450 So Offensive Player of the Year only counts for wide 0:32:33.490 --> 0:32:34.530 receivers and running backs. 0:32:34.790 --> 0:32:37.650 It's like the Cooper Cup Award, exactly. You know what, though? 0:32:37.950 --> 0:32:39.890 If Ken Walker keeps his up, he will get real 0:32:39.950 --> 0:32:42.300 MVP votes. I saw those odds on the Dan Patrick 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.980 Show graphic. You're telling me Lamar Jackson has a better 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:45.920 chance than Kenneth Walker? 0:32:46.180 --> 0:32:48.080 It's just like you said. I think Vegas calls it 0:32:48.100 --> 0:32:49.750 like they see it. They know you can't get it. 0:32:49.980 --> 0:32:52.020 And so one of our... Dylan, who handles the betting here, 0:32:52.420 --> 0:32:54.360 he even said they put Kenneth Walker on there just 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.010 to get some found money because they know anyone who 0:32:57.030 --> 0:32:59.350 bets on Kenneth Walker to win the MVP is giving 0:32:59.370 --> 0:32:59.970 their money away. 0:33:00.090 --> 0:33:00.270 Right. 0:33:00.370 --> 0:33:02.690 And he's good, don't get me wrong, but I have 0:33:02.750 --> 0:33:04.430 trouble believing he can keep up this pace. 0:33:04.570 --> 0:33:06.620 Is he that good, Paul? Well, no, he is. 0:33:06.650 --> 0:33:08.610 I mean, he's in his prime. He is entering running 0:33:08.630 --> 0:33:10.880 back prime. He didn't run for... He didn't have like 0:33:10.970 --> 0:33:13.950 five 300-carry seasons. This guy... You paid him. You got 0:33:13.990 --> 0:33:15.400 him for three years. See what happens. 0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:16.400 You know, I had a little theory. 0:33:16.420 --> 0:33:18.860 Remember last year with Seattle, Zach Charbonnet got hurt, and 0:33:18.900 --> 0:33:22.440 they used Kenneth Walker primarily. Walker led them in the 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.380 playoffs and obviously led them in the Super Bowl win. 0:33:24.660 --> 0:33:28.060 That Charbonnet injury told the Seahawks, go all Walker. I 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.590 wonder if the Seahawks regret not doing Walker all the 0:33:30.620 --> 0:33:33.350 time because he's obviously a bell cow running back. 0:33:33.510 --> 0:33:35.370 I wonder if they regret not spending the money on him. 0:33:35.410 --> 0:33:37.270 Yeah, exactly. I don't think they knew. 0:33:37.710 --> 0:33:39.870 He was this good, even as good as he was. 0:33:39.970 --> 0:33:41.850 I get the sense that they didn't know he's one 0:33:41.870 --> 0:33:42.570 of the top three backs. 0:33:42.590 --> 0:33:43.150 All right. 0:33:43.950 --> 0:33:46.090 Gerald McCoy was on the Dan Patrick show today and 0:33:46.130 --> 0:33:48.270 had a great answer when Dan asked him, which QB 0:33:48.290 --> 0:33:50.730 did he face that was the least athletic? 0:33:52.670 --> 0:33:53.930 Probably Tom Brady. 0:33:56.370 --> 0:33:57.630 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 0:33:57.790 --> 0:34:00.930 I mean, he's got incredible pocket feet. His pocket presence 0:34:00.990 --> 0:34:05.450 is ridiculous. But that moving and running, my goodness. Tom, 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:05.960 I love you. 0:34:06.630 --> 0:34:09.820 But my brother, wait, slower than Peyton? 0:34:11.180 --> 0:34:12.000 You know what, Dan? 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:12.979 You might be right. 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.760 That dang Peyton, he played football like he had already 0:34:17.820 --> 0:34:19.000 had hip replacements. 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.040 Like he had hip replacements. 0:34:24.390 --> 0:34:26.590 I could have listened to that conversation for another hour. 0:34:26.690 --> 0:34:27.910 Gerald McCoy is so funny. 0:34:27.950 --> 0:34:30.750 I think the Mannings are so historically slow as a family, 0:34:30.830 --> 0:34:33.200 mostly Eli and Peyton. that they were almost like emeritus, 0:34:33.219 --> 0:34:34.460 and he went to Brady out of default. 0:34:34.700 --> 0:34:37.339 And Eli's like Usain Bolt compared to Peyton. Peyton did 0:34:37.380 --> 0:34:38.300 not move at all. 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.260 Okay, is there a slower quarterback all-time or less athletic? 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.969 I would go back to the Chargers of the 80s 0:34:43.989 --> 0:34:46.310 with Dan Fouts. Dan Fouts had a beard. He looked 0:34:46.330 --> 0:34:48.190 like a professor back there carving up defense. 0:34:48.350 --> 0:34:50.710 Yeah, but I don't think he's quite as unathletic. 0:34:51.290 --> 0:34:53.950 Peyton, after the neck injury when he got to Denver 0:34:54.330 --> 0:34:57.210 the last couple years, that was probably the all-time. 0:34:57.230 --> 0:34:59.250 When Peyton ran, it looked like a dog on his 0:34:59.290 --> 0:35:01.069 hind legs running on the street. What is going on there? 0:35:01.090 --> 0:35:01.720 What's going on? 0:35:01.950 --> 0:35:03.370 But if you go back to the 80s and 90s, 0:35:03.410 --> 0:35:05.570 nobody ran. Nowadays, you come in the NFL as a 0:35:05.610 --> 0:35:08.080 quarterback and you can scramble. Back then, there were a 0:35:08.100 --> 0:35:08.900 lot of guys like that. 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:09.200 All right. 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.520 Speaking of quarterbacks, Ben Johnson, the coach of the Bears, 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.740 was a little coy all week with who his quarterback 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.390 would be this weekend. Well, he messed around a little 0:35:17.410 --> 0:35:20.069 bit and started Case Keenum technically under center for the 0:35:20.110 --> 0:35:23.049 first play and had Tyson Bajent, the actual starter, out 0:35:23.070 --> 0:35:24.890 at wide receiver. Here's his explanations. 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.200 Well, I got all these memos saying that Tyson was 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.279 starting before I ever made an announcement, so I didn't 0:35:31.300 --> 0:35:33.120 want to get Case out there the first time. It 0:35:33.140 --> 0:35:36.480 was like his ceremonial first pitch out there, handing off 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:36.920 the torch. 0:35:37.500 --> 0:35:40.040 He gets credited with the win for that, right? 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.940 Good for him. I think the team gets credited for 0:35:42.980 --> 0:35:43.200 a win. 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.080 Very cute. Ben Johnson likes to poke the bear. 0:35:46.260 --> 0:35:46.620 Okay. 0:35:46.660 --> 0:35:50.390 No pun intended. Case Keenum actually gets credit for the start, 0:35:50.450 --> 0:35:52.740 so he gets the win on his docket. I will say, though, 0:35:52.890 --> 0:35:55.130 if you watch right there, there's Tyson Bajent split out. 0:35:55.770 --> 0:35:57.890 I didn't love it in the moment, being cute like this. 0:35:58.050 --> 0:36:01.029 Let's give Tyson Bajent the pure start and let him go. 0:36:02.130 --> 0:36:04.450 Show faith in him. And I think also that what's 0:36:04.469 --> 0:36:07.700 being glazed over is Tyson Bajent, through four interceptions that game, 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.860 three of them were called back due to defensive penalties. 0:36:10.350 --> 0:36:12.350 It's hard to throw four interceptions in a game, especially 0:36:12.370 --> 0:36:13.589 when you're running the ball most of the time. 0:36:13.890 --> 0:36:15.240 Well, if you look at the opponent, you could have 0:36:15.260 --> 0:36:18.080 started Paul Paps at quarterback for the Chicago Bears and 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.400 won that. Oh, yes, you could have. There is no 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.440 way the Jets were competing in that game. Now, I 0:36:22.460 --> 0:36:25.250 don't think Ben Johnson knew that. I think he does 0:36:25.270 --> 0:36:27.910 get mad when the media assumes things. But that was 0:36:28.110 --> 0:36:32.270 obviously a domination on the ground. Mighty Menungai just dominating 0:36:32.290 --> 0:36:35.009 the Jets. I mean, it's interesting about the Bears get 0:36:35.050 --> 0:36:37.010 all this credit for being a high-flying offense. 0:36:37.290 --> 0:36:39.030 They are a grind-you-down offense. 0:36:39.070 --> 0:36:40.660 But I will say, though, that's one of those games, 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.120 if you nationally didn't watch that game and saw some 0:36:43.140 --> 0:36:45.920 of those passes Bajent made, I would be concerned that 0:36:45.980 --> 0:36:48.860 your second-string quarterback isn't as good as your third-string quarterback 0:36:49.100 --> 0:36:52.120 while you wait for your first-string quarterback. Update, Ben Johnson 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.930 was just at the podium. He said they plan— is 0:36:54.950 --> 0:36:58.500 to start Bajent for week five against the Packers. But 0:36:58.540 --> 0:37:00.980 that means Caleb Williams is still somewhat in flux. 0:37:01.180 --> 0:37:03.979 That's interesting because I thought Caleb Williams might be back 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.510 from now with a hamstring injury. 0:37:05.820 --> 0:37:08.250 But the Packers as an opponent, I don't think you 0:37:08.270 --> 0:37:10.690 need a starting quarterback to beat the Packers. None at all. 0:37:10.989 --> 0:37:13.530 Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying Paul Paps could start. 0:37:13.790 --> 0:37:15.610 But I think Bajent can easily win that game. I 0:37:15.630 --> 0:37:18.240 think Case Keenum could easily win that game. The Bears 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.200 are in a great spot because I know Minnesota's. 0:37:20.700 --> 0:37:21.500 4-0, Paul. 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:22.940 And you hate their 4-0. 0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.540 Oh, it's one of the weakest 4-0s. And even, I 0:37:25.739 --> 0:37:27.620 don't know how they beat the Dolphins, who are not 0:37:27.660 --> 0:37:30.109 even trying to win. Okay, for our next clip, let's 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.810 go to the Bengals. Now, the Bengals threw the ball 0:37:32.810 --> 0:37:36.109 54 times yesterday in a loss to Jacksonville. They only 0:37:36.170 --> 0:37:38.950 ran it 15 times. And Joe Burrow had this exchange 0:37:38.969 --> 0:37:40.370 with a reporter after the game. 0:37:42.530 --> 0:37:44.370 Do you feel like there needs to be a little 0:37:44.390 --> 0:37:45.649 bit more balance there? 0:37:45.790 --> 0:37:48.840 Obviously, you guys are always going to be a pass-first offense, 0:37:48.860 --> 0:37:52.620 but do you feel like it's balanced enough? My response 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:53.779 to that would be let's throw more. 0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.700 That's not a good sign. You talk about a team 0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.970 that needs a running back, like an alpha dog running back. 0:38:00.300 --> 0:38:01.989 They had Joe Mixon for a few years, and he 0:38:02.030 --> 0:38:05.009 wasn't a superstar, but he was a good— all down 0:38:05.050 --> 0:38:06.819 running back. They're not in that position right now. 0:38:07.180 --> 0:38:09.100 No, I mean, Joe Burrow is one of the best 0:38:09.140 --> 0:38:10.799 quarterbacks in the league. There's no doubt about it. 0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.719 But eventually Jacksonville was able to see, oh, they're only 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.259 throwing the ball and they brought the rush on. 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.410 I'm no math guy, but 1.5 yards a carry doesn't 0:38:18.430 --> 0:38:19.170 seem like you get it done. 0:38:19.510 --> 0:38:21.489 No, I like Chase Brown, but Chase Brown has become 0:38:21.510 --> 0:38:24.900 more of a third-down receiving right. He's like a Roger Craig, 0:38:25.219 --> 0:38:28.000 so you need a run attack, especially when Cincinnati's defense 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.980 is good but not dominant. This was a huge win 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.660 for Jacksonville and really raised concerns. If you pick the 0:38:33.700 --> 0:38:35.090 Bengals to go to the Super Bowl, you look at 0:38:35.110 --> 0:38:36.830 that game and say, something's missing. 0:38:36.969 --> 0:38:38.969 What frustrates me about the Bengals is they were a 0:38:39.030 --> 0:38:40.610 play away from winning the Super Bowl. They were an 0:38:40.630 --> 0:38:43.529 Aaron Donald tackle on Joe Burrow. They'd probably win that 0:38:43.550 --> 0:38:45.690 Super Bowl. They feel every year that they're just a 0:38:45.790 --> 0:38:48.210 tick further away. And two weeks ago, we were talking, 0:38:48.270 --> 0:38:51.009 you were talking about their defense. Their defense is fine. 0:38:51.250 --> 0:38:52.370 And now the offense is the issue. 0:38:52.489 --> 0:38:55.670 Well, it's interesting. What do you think of Joe Burrow's answer? 0:38:56.370 --> 0:38:57.190 Throw the ball more. 0:38:57.870 --> 0:38:58.930 I would do whatever Joe says. 0:38:59.050 --> 0:39:01.230 Joe is a bit defiant. It's funny. 0:39:01.250 --> 0:39:03.410 Ben Johnson was going at the reporters a little bit there. 0:39:03.739 --> 0:39:06.140 Joe Burrow, I think, did not like the tone of 0:39:06.180 --> 0:39:06.760 the questions. 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:07.420 All right. 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.840 For our next clip, Sean Payton has some issues in Denver. 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.500 He gave up play calling this summer to Davis Webb. 0:39:14.180 --> 0:39:16.100 I'm not sure it's all working out great. Let's hear 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:16.640 from the coach. 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.359 Yeah, like I said, that's too early to... It's a 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:26.170 fair question. I appreciate it. And man, it's tough you 0:39:26.190 --> 0:39:28.779 know to discuss any of that right now but i 0:39:29.580 --> 0:39:33.000 told those guys like hey you know we played some 0:39:33.340 --> 0:39:36.339 some tough teams and this is another good football team 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.299 um you know there were a lot of things we 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.580 did well defensively for a good portion of the game 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:47.779 i felt like the time of possession um began to 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.360 affect us and uh We have the big turnover, obviously, 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.779 in the kicking game, and that flips the field, and 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:56.560 all of a sudden you're back out there. 0:39:57.100 --> 0:39:58.960 It seems like they'll talk about play calling every week 0:39:59.020 --> 0:40:01.000 out there in Denver. It only works in the fourth quarter. 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.220 If I'm Sean Payton, I give up things like gluten. 0:40:03.780 --> 0:40:06.339 I'm scrolling on my phone. I don't give up play calling. 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:07.939 You're one of the best play callers of all time. 0:40:08.460 --> 0:40:10.660 I know you have Davis Webb there. Make him earn it. 0:40:11.090 --> 0:40:12.700 Make him earn it and take control back of it. 0:40:12.780 --> 0:40:15.410 I think he's trying to be not awkward to his 0:40:15.450 --> 0:40:17.770 new play caller. You can't do that. You were this 0:40:17.910 --> 0:40:20.260 close to the Super Bowl last year. Everything's in place. 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.710 I know you got a couple injuries yesterday, but take over. 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.180 Well, the issue is Davis Webb might have left if 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.299 you didn't promote him because there was nowhere to go. 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:28.379 But I agree. 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:30.259 The one caveat, and I'm going to say this for 0:40:30.300 --> 0:40:33.000 Sean Mannion, our buddy, who's the new offensive coordinator in Philadelphia. 0:40:33.420 --> 0:40:34.640 This is four games in. 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.339 Do you think it's possible that the whole offense gets 0:40:37.390 --> 0:40:40.150 more used to Davis Webb? By week 10, we see 0:40:40.170 --> 0:40:41.550 a completely different offense? 0:40:41.770 --> 0:40:44.190 Yeah, you think. You always get that ramp-up thing. But 0:40:44.210 --> 0:40:45.969 you've got to be in a position where you want 0:40:45.989 --> 0:40:47.690 to be on the road for the entire playoffs. I 0:40:47.710 --> 0:40:50.810 always look at these early September, early October games. You 0:40:50.830 --> 0:40:53.350 can afford losses there. If you're the Chiefs, you could 0:40:53.370 --> 0:40:54.989 afford a loss right now. The Broncos aren't one of 0:40:55.030 --> 0:40:55.410 those teams. 0:40:55.469 --> 0:40:57.319 Wow, the Broncos were home in the AFC title game 0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.779 last year, and it snowed in the second half and 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.500 ruined their chances, but that was with a backup quarterback. 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:03.419 Yeah, I agree. 0:41:03.460 --> 0:41:05.259 Sean Payton, take this back, because the Broncos are my 0:41:05.300 --> 0:41:07.820 Super Bowl pick, and only Sean Payton calling plays is 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:08.520 going to do that. 0:41:08.540 --> 0:41:10.549 I hope you heard that, Coach. All right, coming up next, 0:41:10.850 --> 0:41:13.610 we have Constructed Criticism, and get you ready for Monday 0:41:13.770 --> 0:41:16.150 Night Football, Falcons-Saints. That's going to be a banger. 0:41:16.690 --> 0:41:22.029 Banger. Back on Not So Fast. Oh, boy, Paul. I'm 0:41:22.090 --> 0:41:24.410 Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps. That is Trey McBride. 0:41:24.730 --> 0:41:28.230 Getting into it with an official, and according to many 0:41:28.530 --> 0:41:32.230 angles on this video, the official curses out Trey McBride. 0:41:32.710 --> 0:41:34.779 This feels like we're at the beginning of this story. 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.760 This is going to be problems for the officiating crew. 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.520 It's going to be problems not for Trey McBride, but 0:41:39.540 --> 0:41:41.940 I think Trey McBride was rightfully upset after this. The 0:41:41.980 --> 0:41:44.580 officials cannot do that under any circumstance. 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.920 Yeah, that's a perfect bad storm for the NFL. The 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.180 camera had to be in the right spot. Trey McBride 0:41:49.219 --> 0:41:51.469 has such field awareness, maybe camera awareness, that he said, 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.420 You just got that on tape. He F-bombed him twice, 0:41:54.780 --> 0:41:56.180 and the NFL is going to have to answer for 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.300 this one because the players' union stepped on the gas. 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.940 Now that the players' union says something, they're going to answer. 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.060 There was another thing where a guy from the Vikings 0:42:03.100 --> 0:42:04.600 ran into a ref, and the ref jumped up like 0:42:04.620 --> 0:42:07.080 it was go time. Here's the problem with refs. They 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.600 know the players can't do anything. If you know you 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.980 can't be punched in the face by someone, you'll F-bomb them. 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.279 You'll go like this to them, and it's almost like 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.710 a 14-year-old at a Starbucks. You can't do anything when 0:42:16.730 --> 0:42:18.910 they yell at you. So the refs, they're untouchable. 0:42:19.090 --> 0:42:19.890 Yeah. Here's J.C. 0:42:19.930 --> 0:42:22.890 Tretter's full quote, by the way, the union chief on 0:42:22.930 --> 0:42:25.300 the Trey McBride incident. This kind of behavior from an 0:42:25.340 --> 0:42:29.080 official towards a player, unacceptable. Players are constantly being held 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.460 accountable when the roles are reversed. We expect the NFL 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.029 to hold officials to the same standard. I mean, that's 0:42:34.050 --> 0:42:34.710 a fair statement. 0:42:34.770 --> 0:42:34.930 Yeah. 0:42:35.290 --> 0:42:35.450 Yeah. 0:42:35.530 --> 0:42:37.290 And it's going to be one of those things until 0:42:37.330 --> 0:42:39.989 we get more clarity or more. Everyone's going to want 0:42:40.030 --> 0:42:41.759 the ref's sideline for a week. Most people don't know 0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:44.040 the ref's names. At this point, they don't give out names, 0:42:44.060 --> 0:42:45.040 and they don't make them available. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.560 Don't even talk to me. The Scott Novak crew and all. 0:42:48.020 --> 0:42:49.920 I'm sick of it. I want money back from the 0:42:50.020 --> 0:42:52.680 NFL on all my prescription. Whenever there's a touchdown that's 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.540 called back by holding, a little part of me dies inside, Paul. 0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.680 No one hates holding more than this guy, Pearl. All right, 0:42:57.700 --> 0:43:00.060 let's get to Monday Night Football. It's an anniversary game. 0:43:00.300 --> 0:43:02.060 But you have Falcons at Saints tonight, and this is 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.500 a game for your pure football fans. You know, Tyler 0:43:04.540 --> 0:43:07.470 Shuck and Michael Penix, you're not putting on the jumbotron saying, hey, 0:43:07.489 --> 0:43:09.660 tune into this one. These are two teams that are 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:13.279 kind of interesting, maybe not threatening. Shuck has been really 0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.319 good for the Saints, and Michael Penix had a good 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.810 weekend last week against the Green Bay Packers. Everything's in 0:43:18.850 --> 0:43:20.669 place for the Falcons to go on a mini run 0:43:20.750 --> 0:43:21.989 here and tonight's the night. 0:43:22.170 --> 0:43:24.290 It's funny because the NFL was criticized for having three 0:43:24.330 --> 0:43:27.310 straight weeks of Atlanta in primetime, but it ends up working. 0:43:27.370 --> 0:43:30.419 I think football fans are really curious about Tyler Shuck 0:43:30.460 --> 0:43:32.540 as well. You can go from either angle, but the 0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:33.239 emotion is going to be. 0:43:33.219 --> 0:43:33.819 Interesting to me. 0:43:33.820 --> 0:43:36.440 20 years since the first game back at the Superdome 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:37.080 after Katrina. 0:43:37.430 --> 0:43:38.950 Do you know who's playing this weekend, Paul? 0:43:39.210 --> 0:43:43.969 Tonight, Trombone Shorty, Eric Church, and the Neville brothers all 0:43:43.989 --> 0:43:46.469 going to be in the stadium. I just think all 0:43:46.489 --> 0:43:49.750 the players coming back, the swell of emotion, I'm not 0:43:49.810 --> 0:43:51.470 necessarily going to bet this game, but I think that's 0:43:51.489 --> 0:43:52.600 an advantage for New Orleans. 0:43:52.620 --> 0:43:56.440 Yeah, that game 20 years ago, September 25, 2006, some 0:43:56.460 --> 0:43:59.200 of the players on the field, Michael Vick, Drew Brees, 0:43:59.620 --> 0:44:02.920 Reggie Bush, Warwick Dunn, Steve Gleason with the punt block, 0:44:03.020 --> 0:44:05.239 the statues out there. That's one of those games. I'd 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.180 like to almost go watch in real time, like run 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.640 that game back, play that at 5 o'clock before this game. 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.180 Yeah, I mean, Steve Gleason will, I assume, be in 0:44:12.219 --> 0:44:16.660 the building, of course. I actually met Steve Gleason at 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.280 his home, which is right near the Super Bowl. Ryan 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.779 Leaf took me during Super Bowl week one time, and 0:44:20.820 --> 0:44:24.509 it's incredibly powerful. He's an incredibly inspiring person, and it's 0:44:24.550 --> 0:44:27.750 so interesting. For young fans who weren't there, New Orleans 0:44:27.810 --> 0:44:29.489 coming back from Katrina meant so much. 0:44:29.530 --> 0:44:29.630 Yeah. 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:31.120 The Saints in particular. 0:44:31.300 --> 0:44:33.839 One more feel-good leftover. I got a leftover here for you. 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.239 The Minnesota Gophers took down Michigan at Michigan. Watch this 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.760 field rushing. They were singing Mr. Brightside. Look at the Jumbotron. 0:44:41.660 --> 0:44:44.120 Watch this. Please remain off the field. They're not listening 0:44:44.140 --> 0:44:46.140 to that one. Minnesota doesn't go to the big house 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:49.010 too often to take down Michigan. Everybody was on the field. 0:44:49.030 --> 0:44:51.410 People were coming from the interstate running on the field. 0:44:51.770 --> 0:44:54.290 It was go time. That looked like so fun. 0:44:54.469 --> 0:44:57.090 And P.J. Fleck, after the words, was crowd surfing his players. 0:44:57.110 --> 0:44:58.250 A good time for Minnesota. 0:44:58.550 --> 0:44:58.940 Really good win. 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.460 All right, let's get to it's constructive criticism time, Pearl. 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.580 That's your feedback, your tweets, your social media notes to us. 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.960 This first one is from a guy we know, Pearl. 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:08.600 Here we go. 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.800 From Andrew Perloff, responding to a fan. Is the SEC 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:18.219 good or bad? Ooh, wow, bad. How'd that go for 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:19.660 you on social media when you tweeted that out? 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.590 Good. Well, look at this guy. He said, it is 0:45:21.610 --> 0:45:24.210 very good, not top-heavy, and much better than every other conference. 0:45:24.710 --> 0:45:25.490 Most people disagree. 0:45:25.969 --> 0:45:27.870 The SEC is, if you're saying, are they the most 0:45:27.930 --> 0:45:29.810 overrated conference, there's not even a question. 0:45:29.989 --> 0:45:31.350 Overcovered or overrated? 0:45:31.489 --> 0:45:32.149 Overrated. 0:45:32.210 --> 0:45:35.810 The AP ranking puts all these SEC teams in. And 0:45:36.010 --> 0:45:38.350 what happened last year in the playoff? What happened to 0:45:38.450 --> 0:45:39.989 Alabama and Oklahoma? 0:45:40.730 --> 0:45:42.970 It does feel like they don't have a heavyweight contender 0:45:43.010 --> 0:45:43.290 this year. 0:45:43.510 --> 0:45:46.040 No, it's the names. NIL spread all the talent away 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:46.799 from the SEC. 0:45:47.060 --> 0:45:50.520 It used to be Georgia would have five All-Americans on 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.000 their depth charts. Now there are all sorts of schools. No, 0:45:53.060 --> 0:45:55.000 I think they're definitely overrated. I think it's history. 0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.520 Why, for example, was Missouri ranked 25 coming into this week? Yeah, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.430 I know they blew out Florida, but do we know 0:46:02.469 --> 0:46:03.750 that they're better than other divisions? 0:46:03.770 --> 0:46:06.130 They still win the tailgate. One more constructive criticism. Maybe 0:46:06.150 --> 0:46:08.850 we wanted to get this story. Dante Reno, this one's 0:46:08.910 --> 0:46:10.810 for you, Pops. I think you know the back story. 0:46:11.180 --> 0:46:14.520 Dante Reno's father, Tony Reno, was a very good head 0:46:14.580 --> 0:46:16.740 coach at Yale football. I've seen him play multiple times 0:46:17.100 --> 0:46:20.290 right down the street. His son, Dante Reno, great quarterback, 0:46:20.330 --> 0:46:23.070 went to South Carolina, came back to play for his father. 0:46:23.350 --> 0:46:25.989 His father passes away on Friday. Dante Reno goes out 0:46:26.030 --> 0:46:28.930 there and carves up Merrimack for four touchdowns with a 0:46:28.950 --> 0:46:31.730 comeback win, played the day after his father passed away. 0:46:32.570 --> 0:46:35.430 What a great kid. His father ran a really good program, 0:46:35.550 --> 0:46:37.469 and one of those stories that You want to give 0:46:37.489 --> 0:46:38.009 a shout-out to. 0:46:38.090 --> 0:46:38.410 Yeah. 0:46:38.610 --> 0:46:41.049 Remember when Brett Favre played in a situation way back 0:46:41.070 --> 0:46:42.270 in the day on Monday Night Football? 0:46:43.030 --> 0:46:45.169 Yep. That's tough, but that's what football players do. 0:46:45.230 --> 0:46:45.370 Yep. 0:46:45.430 --> 0:46:48.430 Four touchdowns for Dante Reno, and Tony Reno was his father. 0:46:48.450 --> 0:46:50.629 All right, it's time for the feel-good. We were all 0:46:50.670 --> 0:46:52.589 agreed on this one. The control room loves dogs. We 0:46:52.630 --> 0:46:53.070 love dogs. 0:46:53.550 --> 0:46:54.109 Here we go, Pearl. 0:46:54.950 --> 0:46:57.180 They have a race at halftime of the Seahawks game. 0:46:57.700 --> 0:47:00.860 The Corgi race. Corgi? Corgi, I think. Look at the 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:02.220 look back by that dog. 0:47:02.420 --> 0:47:02.600 Oh, yeah. 0:47:03.290 --> 0:47:06.990 That was Usain Bolt-ish. Remember when Bolt had the big lead? 0:47:07.090 --> 0:47:07.290 Yep. 0:47:07.570 --> 0:47:09.509 And did the look back at all the other, like, 0:47:09.730 --> 0:47:10.270 slow dudes? 0:47:10.630 --> 0:47:14.109 But are you worried about a potential taunting penalty? They 0:47:14.150 --> 0:47:15.649 might have awarded it to one of the other Corgis. 0:47:15.710 --> 0:47:16.029 I looked. 0:47:16.050 --> 0:47:18.230 There was no laundry on the field. The Corgi just 0:47:18.250 --> 0:47:21.510 gave the stare back at the 50-meter mark. Like, keep up, fellas. 0:47:21.690 --> 0:47:23.339 What if he had put one paw behind his head, 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:23.890 like Dion? 0:47:23.910 --> 0:47:24.609 Oh, and fam you? 0:47:25.030 --> 0:47:26.410 Yeah, that would be pretty cool. 0:47:26.510 --> 0:47:28.620 That was pretty cool. Now, will there be future? 0:47:28.660 --> 0:47:28.940 Does this. 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.600 corgi come back next week to defend his title. 0:47:31.580 --> 0:47:34.020 Oh like that guy in the marlins who runs around 0:47:34.060 --> 0:47:34.920 the stadium. 0:47:34.580 --> 0:47:36.640 Yes but i don't think so that is one of 0:47:36.660 --> 0:47:38.680 the great photos of all time there's a photo of 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.299 a usain bolt in a race only 100 meters it's 0:47:41.340 --> 0:47:43.900 not a marathon and he's looking back at the rest 0:47:43.940 --> 0:47:45.200 of the crew with this big smile. 0:47:44.940 --> 0:47:46.680 Yeah it looks like ai and i think he still 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.759 set the all-time record in that race i mean by 0:47:49.820 --> 0:47:51.640 the way it's the second usain bolt mention. 0:47:51.420 --> 0:47:54.040 Of the show that's fantastic okay before we go Monday 0:47:54.060 --> 0:47:56.090 Night Football, Falcons, Saints, what do you got tonight? How 0:47:56.110 --> 0:47:56.640 does that play out? 0:47:56.770 --> 0:47:59.130 I mean, I'm just going pure emotion. I'm going with 0:47:59.170 --> 0:47:59.550 the Saints. 0:48:00.170 --> 0:48:02.910 What about Michael Penix, second start? I know you want 0:48:03.070 --> 0:48:03.629 the feel good. 0:48:04.130 --> 0:48:06.109 At home, I would like Michael Penix tonight, but no. 0:48:06.290 --> 0:48:08.780 In New Orleans, Tyler Shuck has played well. That team 0:48:08.820 --> 0:48:12.359 is actually pretty good for NFC South. I think it's 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:14.779 Carolina and New Orleans are the two teams to watch there. 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.200 It's going to be good to see how that division 0:48:16.260 --> 0:48:18.470 plays out because no one knows who it's going to be. 0:48:19.050 --> 0:48:21.770 I think everyone would pick the Buccaneers generally. 0:48:21.910 --> 0:48:22.950 But not now. Not now. 0:48:23.110 --> 0:48:24.569 But at the start of the season, the Buccaneers were 0:48:24.590 --> 0:48:26.300 the safe pick, and now it's up for grabs. 0:48:26.530 --> 0:48:28.540 Yeah, whoever wins tonight, it's going to be paired with 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.740 Carolina because Carolina did something very important. 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.400 They won in a standalone game on national TV. Now 0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:34.960 everyone's into them, including me. 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.480 Including you. All right, coming up tomorrow, join Dan Patrick, 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.620 9 to noon Eastern, right here on NBC Sports Now. 0:48:40.940 --> 0:48:43.200 Then come hang with us. Not so fast. Paps and Perloff. 0:48:43.590 --> 0:48:45.350 Enjoy the football tonight. Come hang with us after. 0:48:45.510 --> 0:48:45.830 Take it easy.