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Speaker 1: Podcast headed into wild Card weekend. Baby, we got games,

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Speaker 1: we got games, and we got more games. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: will dive into a lot today. La Fleur fired Derek

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into some of the games obviously, some some headlines,

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Speaker 1: weird in the playoffs. One and done, baby. Uh. Here's

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Speaker 1: under contract for two more years, so you better take

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Speaker 1: advantage of it. Now you're really gonna turn down a

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Speaker 1: say no, okay, Well what about next year when he's

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Speaker 1: I understand where they're coming from, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's guaranteed by any means. But to be Sean Payton

439
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Speaker 1: I'm the Denver Broncos if I'm the Carolina Panthers, if

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Speaker 1: like teams fighting first seating right until the end of

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Speaker 1: every single snap, every single half matters. So this guy,

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504
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Speaker 1: to win that game to have the two seed, to

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Speaker 1: allow them to have two home playoff games. And so

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Speaker 1: to me, brock Purty has been under pressure. Obviously, playoffs

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Speaker 1: completely different animal. It's a one and done sport. This

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Speaker 1: is not You're not playing a series. You funk up,

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Speaker 1: you have a couple of bad throws in a game

513
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Speaker 1: can end your season. But I expect brock Purty this game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's gonna be weird because of the weather.

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Speaker 1: Uh it's cyclone, rainstorms, bomb cycle. I don't know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Uh don't miss be in there right now at all.

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Speaker 1: But it's supposed to get a half inch rain on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The field sloppy. To me, that neutralizes the game. Still,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're playing on sloppy field. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if you're playing on ice. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if you're playing in the backyard. I will pick the

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Speaker 1: team that is dramatically more talented in this game. But

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Speaker 1: I do think just pretty just he has been very,

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Speaker 1: very calm and collected, like one thing, and when you

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Speaker 1: watch him play, he's not for Neddick at all. He

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Speaker 1: does not feel like a rookie quarterback. That that is

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Speaker 1: one thing I'll be keeping an eye on. I expect

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Speaker 1: the Niners to roll the night game. Listen, I think

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Speaker 1: the Jags are playing with house money. I expect him

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Speaker 1: to lose this game. The amount of pressure on Brandon

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Speaker 1: Staley and this bad boy is high, and there are

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Speaker 1: some rumors, you know, like is this guy lasting if

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Speaker 1: they lose? I think he's gone now. Someone texts me

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Speaker 1: today like, I wouldn't just put Sean Payton there, not

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Speaker 1: because Sean wouldn't be interested. That's not really The Spanish

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Speaker 1: used to pay in twenty two million dollars per a coach,

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Speaker 1: especially if they get into some bidding war with Denver

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Speaker 1: or Carolina or whatever over Sean Payton services. But I

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Speaker 1: I just think if Brandon Stalley can't win this game

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Speaker 1: as a favorite with the far superior listen, Rever Lawrence

542
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: had a good season. Justine Herbert's a much better player

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Speaker 1: right now. Especially, we have to keep an eye on

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Speaker 1: this Mike Williams thing. Like, if Mike Williams is unable

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00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: to play or shelve himself, you played him in that game.

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Speaker 1: I get it with back spasm. It's not like he

547
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Speaker 1: rolled his ankle. But still, man, I I do you

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Speaker 1: know where I stand on him? He'd be Audio cion

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Speaker 1: Ura see you later. But if he if he wins

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00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: this game, excuses me. Does not win this game, loses

551
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: the Jags. I don't even care how cheap the owners are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he survives the bills Miami. Let's

553
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: let's face it, there is not a soul. I've not

554
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Speaker 1: literally one soul, including Dan Marino, in, including Patrick Surtan,

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Speaker 1: the Dad in, including O J McDuffie, Ricky Williams. You

556
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Speaker 1: will not meet anything. Jason Taylor, who's going to pick.

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00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: The Dolphins in this game not not a soul and

558
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: rightfully so. They're playing with Skyler Thompson, who is not

559
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Speaker 1: very good, who ironically was taken fifteen spots ahead of

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty. So we got two seventh rounders in this

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Speaker 1: draft to rookie seventh rounders starting in the playoffs. One

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Speaker 1: guy was taking to pick, the other guy was taking

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Speaker 1: pick to sixty two. Little nugget there for you to

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Speaker 1: tell your friends this weekend if you're having in cocktails.

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Speaker 1: When you pointed the quarterbacks to me, The question is

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Speaker 1: not about the Bills. We will get into their hopes

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Speaker 1: next week when they probably play the Bengals. Is the

568
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: Dolphins situation. Who is not gonna have his fifth year

569
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Speaker 1: option picked up? That's that's not happening under no circumstances.

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Speaker 1: One can they and two would they? So this offseason

571
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Speaker 1: like it's to his career over in Miami. Because if

572
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: you're not gonna pick up a guy's fifth year option,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing if your team is not very good,

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Speaker 1: right and you get a new coach and you just

575
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Speaker 1: play out the string. It's another thing when the team

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Speaker 1: is pretty talented and their game plan in two thousand,

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Speaker 1: twenty three. This, you know, in ten months is going

578
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: to be to win football games less than that, right,

579
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: six seven months, So I I think two US time

580
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: in Miami as the order is definitely over and I

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Speaker 1: would wait this offseason to hear you're gonna start hearing

582
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Speaker 1: rumors the fifty option is not only not being picked up.

583
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Speaker 1: I think the question is is he on the team

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Speaker 1: next year? Which cutthroat league, like this guy's getting his

585
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: his nogging rattled for you, but the sport, you know,

586
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: there's the reality of the business. This game is probably

587
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: the most intriguing the Giants and the Vikings. Um if

588
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Speaker 1: Brian day Ball not only makes the playoffs, but like

589
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Speaker 1: the real playoffs, not the seventh seed, the sixth seed,

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Speaker 1: and then gets a road playoff game victory, I don't

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Speaker 1: care how flawed Minnesota is the point differential. They still

592
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Speaker 1: want thirteen games if Brian Babel goes on and they

593
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: have a fantastic home field advantage in terms of the crowd,

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Speaker 1: the noise, the skull chant, it is pretty sweet. Like

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Speaker 1: there's nothing like ten minutes before Minnesota Viking game, especially

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Speaker 1: a big one at home in that dome, everyone doing school,

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Speaker 1: someone blowing the horn. It's it's badass. They could be

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Speaker 1: like sports, it's cool. And if Brian Dabele goes on,

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00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick Minnesota strictly because I think everyone's picking

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Speaker 1: the Giants, and from a gambling perspective, you always want

601
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Speaker 1: if everyone's hanging right, hanging left. Uh so, But I'm

602
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: not discounting their ability to win this game. We'll see

603
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Speaker 1: if is Daniel Jones just gonna look cool, calm and

604
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: collected in a playoff game on the road, that would

605
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: be a remarkable accomplishment. And if he does shoot, I

606
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: might give Brian Dable an extension if I'm the moral family.

607
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: But and the other thing is Minnesota wins this game.

608
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: Cousins would then have a couple of playoff victories. I

609
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's been a home run because they've given

610
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: him a ton of money, but it's gone pretty damn well.

611
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I would say it's gotten much better than most of

612
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Speaker 1: us haters. And that's what I was with Cousins. Ever

613
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: thought his Minnesota Viking kind of career was gonna go

614
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: when he left Washington. He would have multiple playoff victories.

615
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: The team has been very, very competitive, even last year. Right,

616
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't his fault. They miss the playoffs. The defense

617
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: was like historically poor. So I'm actually probably the most

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Speaker 1: excited to watch that game, and probably the scame and

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Speaker 1: Bengals and the Ravens is like, is it over with Lamar?

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Speaker 1: NBA and baseball, when the hit free agency is like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the guy's coming back, even Hage

627
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Speaker 1: fans are getting little nervous, Right, is Judge really gonna

628
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Speaker 1: go with the Jazz? Well? On football, it's like, no,

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Speaker 1: who that benefits is the fans. When the fans benefit,

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Speaker 1: the league booms, and it's been huge for the NFL. Listen,

632
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Speaker 1: you can say it's anti competitive, not great for the players,

633
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: don't totally disagree, but the franchise tag is great for

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Speaker 1: the business of football, the interest of football. It keeps

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Speaker 1: star players playing for teams. Look at the NBA guys

636
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: are bouncing around like mercenaries. How's that going? Not great?

637
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: So I do wonder though, you get to a point

638
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: even when the team has control, they can keep franchise

639
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: and tagging this guy. If Lamar could have played and didn't,

640
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: and I don't blame him, I wouldn't risk it either,

641
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: but like, does the team ever look at him the same? Now?

642
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: You could argue like, I don't blame them for being

643
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: mad Adam, but also like, how are you going to

644
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: upgrade this offseason? Maybe they just go we flipped them

645
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: for a bunch of picks. It doesn't as of right

646
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: now recording this on Thursday, it does not look like

647
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's gonna play in this game. I do think

648
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: for the first time, and I'm usually on the side

649
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: of the guy's gonna stay franchise tack he's going nowhere.

650
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: It usually takes kind of crazy circumstances, like last year

651
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: with Davante Adams. He was a free agent, like the

652
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Packers didn't need to let him go, but he told

653
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: him like listen, I don't want to be here anymore.

654
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Trade me, and they found a trading partner and it

655
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of worked for both sides, but the Packers like

656
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: didn't want to keep fighting with them anymore. I wonder

657
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: if you get to the point, obviously Davante had been

658
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: there a little bit longer and they had already paid

659
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: him a second contract, are we there with Lamar? And

660
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: because I would kind of lean it feels like we're

661
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to maybe I would start entertaining

662
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the idea that, yeah, I could see him on a

663
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: different team next year. The Jets would probably make some

664
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: sense because if I'm Woody Johnson, I'd want a big splash.

665
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: And on Joe Burrow, he had a good quote today

666
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: of talking about, like, you know, the arrogance it takes

667
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: to be a great player. And I do think he

668
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: had to quote was it last week about their super

669
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: Bowl window? He's like, as long as I'm here, our

670
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: window is open. There is just something to this guy

671
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: that you know, I I always appreciate a late bloomer, right,

672
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: And I know he went to a house state out

673
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: of high school, but he got beat out by Dwayne Haskins.

674
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Herbert Meyer from some sources that I knew wasn't the

675
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: biggest Joe Burrow guy goes to L s U. Obviously

676
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: didn't have a great first year there, and then once

677
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: he won that national championship, he's never looked back. I

678
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: know he had the knee injuries his rookie year, but

679
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: it was clear immediately like he could play. And this

680
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: guy just feels like he's got it going on. Man.

681
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: And assuming that they beat the Ravens, they're obviously big

682
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: favorites that Bill's game, that there's gonna be a lot

683
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: of pressure on the Bills, who A lot of people

684
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: have picked a super to win the Super Bowl, and

685
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: more than likely the Bengals are gonna be an underdog.

686
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet against this guy. I wouldn't now. They

687
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: haven't been in this position. I mean he had he

688
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: has with the with l s U. But like the franchise,

689
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: the coach, like they're kind of the hunted, like John

690
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: Harbon stuck you and I talked about this. It's like, wait,

691
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: we're just enormous underdogs, and rightfully so, we're playing with

692
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley, but like you're the big bad Wolves now.

693
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: And I'm always fascinated to watch franchises, Uh, watch organizations,

694
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: watch teams how they handle being the hunted and uh yeah,

695
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: because I mean, it wouldn't shock me if the Bengals

696
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: just beat the crap out of them, But it also

697
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if they keep this thing close just

698
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: because the Ravens do have some like, um, you know,

699
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: organizational metal. I mean, they have some championship pedigree. I

700
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: know they haven't won a championship in a long time,

701
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: but the head coach had as and the organization hasn't winning.

702
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: They've been winning a lot longer than the Bengals. But

703
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Burrows just might be

704
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: the pendulum that that swings that this quote unquote rivalry

705
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: divisional rivalry the other way for a long time coming,

706
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: especially if Lamar is on his way out. It's finally

707
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: here playoffs, rocking and rolling with my man Stucky who

708
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: went thirty seven, twenty seven and one fifty seven percent.

709
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: Which isn't it true that if you are successful gamblers

710
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: like fifty three, so you're you're well above that line? Baby?

711
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: What's up brock Bowers though, did you get them the

712
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: brock Bowers party on the hell? Hell? Yeah, brock Bowers

713
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: man TCU strong effort by uh by the horn Frogs. Yeah,

714
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: the game. All you either know is that there was.

715
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: The total was in the sixties and it went over

716
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: with one team scoring once. Um, so yeah, hopefully, I

717
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: assume that we're gonna get a more competitive games in

718
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs, which I'm looking forward to, although it's

719
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: I never gonna go through the games. It's a weird

720
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: weekend with like just the quarterbacks, some of the quarterbacks

721
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: that we're gonna see. It's uh, it'll It's definitely gonna

722
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: be some strange games. I'm not trying to be a

723
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: downer because it is next week's better, but this week

724
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: is still pretty sweet. Not a great weekend, you know,

725
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: it's not one of those you just look at the

726
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: slate and go, gee, I can't wait to just sit

727
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: around for you know, back to back days and watch football.

728
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: That there are definitely better regular season weekends than this week.

729
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: But again, not going to complain. So let's just start

730
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: with the one thirty kickoff, which I guess the moment

731
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: the Packers got eliminated and it became Seattle, I would

732
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: imagine the Niners and and the Packers would have been

733
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: a night game and they would have flip flopped the

734
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: charters in Jacksonville. But we're getting Seattle. Now when it

735
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: was early on this week, it was ten. Uh, kind

736
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: of like Miami game. It was much higher. There is

737
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: a I don't know if it's called a bomb cyclone

738
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: or something crazy ships happened in northern California. A ton

739
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: of rain supposed to supposed to rain like over half

740
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: an inch, winds and cold. This is not your typical

741
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, mid January day in in uh in Santa Clara.

742
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: So I would love the Niners in a nice weather

743
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: dome whatever to destroy Seattle. They kind of have both times. Um.

744
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: The second game, the score was closer than than the

745
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: actual game, but to me nine and a half when

746
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: you're factoring in I mean, this could just be a

747
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: mush fest. Uh. And we know just in the sport

748
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: of football it gets weird. So I if it's really

749
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: gonna rain like it's supposed to and it has been,

750
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: I I think you would have to take Seattle in

751
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the points. Yeah, I mean this gay. I don't really

752
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: love this game, but if if, if you're right, if

753
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: it was chatt and I would take Seattle. Um. The

754
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: bet that I'm looking after this game is probably the under,

755
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: especially when you factor in the weather. I mean, San

756
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Francisco's defense has just been nails all year. I mean,

757
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: it's aren't for me to see with these conditions Seattle's

758
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: offense really having much success. And then when you throw

759
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: into fact that look, it's scary because Seattle's rundy has

760
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: been awful all year and San Francisco is one of

761
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: the best rushing teams in the nfelt they could just

762
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: run downhill on them and if they get a lead,

763
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: they can keep doing it. But if the conditions are bad,

764
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: and you know, it's party's first playoffs start, and historically quarterbacks,

765
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: matter who they are, you can go mahomes Alan whoever there.

766
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, quarterbacks making the first playoffs start have historically struggled.

767
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I could see that. You know, with

768
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: this weather, Seattle is just gonna load up the box

769
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have Shadahan also as a favorite.

770
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: He gets a lead with this weather, with a young quarterback,

771
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna start to play conservative. He knows he can

772
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: be on his defense. So I could see this game

773
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: and you know final being like twenty three and then

774
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: being right on the number it gets the ten. I'd

775
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: look at Seattle um. But you know, historically Shattan hasn't

776
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: been great as a big favorite because he'll be conservative

777
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: when you as he can win. It's like fourth and

778
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: one at the ten, even though he knows he could

779
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: probably run, it's gonna kick a field goal and that

780
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: might cost you to cover. Even though it probably uh

781
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: increases it might increase his win probability the end of

782
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: the game. So yeah, under, maybe Seattle if it gets

783
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: to ten. That weather just pushes me over the top

784
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: on looking at the under because I could trust the

785
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: stand friend defense and then knowing how Shanahan might play this,

786
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: I think it's under or nothing, especially if it's raining.

787
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: He's been more inclined with purty at like the end

788
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: of halves, where he would just kind of play out

789
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: the string and go to halftime, you know, up a

790
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: field goal or up seven points to push the envelope

791
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: and they would drive and they would score more points

792
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: in a in a rain situation. You know, if the

793
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: score was like ten to three, instead of trying to

794
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: get into seventeen to three or thirteen and three, he'd

795
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: be like, ship, just run it out, like I I

796
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: think you're right. He is for a forty three year old,

797
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: he's he's an old soul. I mean he would have

798
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: belonged in the seventies as a coach. Uh well, it

799
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: might be the right. It might actually be the right here,

800
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: like maybe not later in the playoffs. Um, but if

801
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: you're if you're saying, look, our defense can win this game,

802
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: or playing an inferior opponent, let's let the kid get

803
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: his you know, feet wet uh and in a playoff atmosphere.

804
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: So let's just you know, let's be conservative. But you're right, Yeah,

805
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: he's definitely an old soul. Geno's first playoffs start as well, right.

806
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: I know he's a lot older and been around a

807
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: little longer, but he's he's getting his first go around

808
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: now that they got nothing to lose, right, I mean Seattle,

809
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: I mean not have soul thought they would be here,

810
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: But that's not the way teams thinking. Let's another team

811
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: that I guess some people thought they would be here.

812
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: Kind of a trendy pick when the season started to

813
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: potentially make the playoffs. Probably more people picked him as

814
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: a wild card than win the division. But they're here.

815
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Uh I. I I just think, under no circumstances can the

816
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: Chargers lose this game? Now, I wouldn't feel great betting

817
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: on brand Saley in a big spot. As we saw

818
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: last weekend, that fucking place rocks. Uh, that place is

819
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna be loud. But I don't know, I would just

820
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: have a hard time. Yeah, I didn't think Trevor Lawrence

821
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: played that great last weekend. Obviously missed some huge throws

822
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: and they were just just even some basic plays where

823
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: you're like, god, it just looks a little off now

824
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: they do, I don't know. To me, the Jacksonville Jacks

825
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: probably a year away from like really taking them seriously.

826
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I like the Chargers in this spot, but I would

827
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: have a hard time just placing money on Brandon Staley though,

828
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: that to me is the pick. Yeah, and look, I

829
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: don't like laying any points with the Chargers. I actually

830
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: money line the Chargers and if you want to, you

831
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: want to money line Parliament with like the Bills, who

832
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: I will get to. I don't think they have any

833
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: chance of losing. Could the Chargers just play weird games

834
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: like they they're gonna win this game about one or two,

835
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: which I could easily see. But yeah, I mean, what

836
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: what this game boils down to me is I trust

837
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: her but a little more than Lawrence, Right, now, and

838
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: you're right, Jackson at home, they do have the head

839
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: coaching advantage, although there's still some coverages that that Trevor

840
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: Lawrence struggles with. And the Chargers defensive staff and that's

841
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: where Staley is still is good, which is a defensive mind.

842
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna have a really good game

843
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: by or you got Bosta back and their defense has

844
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: been trending in the right direction. But what I think

845
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: this boils down to those the weakest unit in this

846
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: game by far is the jack secondary, and they've gotten

847
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: away with it all year. They've still you know, they're

848
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: they're thirty first against the short pass, which is bad

849
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: when you play the Chargers because they I mean, they're

850
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: too conservative when Lombardi and company, but they have a

851
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: lot of short passes, so that's gonna hurt them here.

852
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: And there's their secondary face the easiest schedule of opposing

853
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of any team in the NFL. You're just look

854
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: at their division by the Cult twice, the Texans twice.

855
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: You clinched the division by playing Josh Dobbs in the

856
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: final regular season, and they played some other passing offenses

857
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: that had quarterbacks hurt um wide receivers hurt like the

858
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: first time they played the Chargers. So I think that's

859
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: what this boils down to, is I actually trust hurt

860
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: it a little more right now, and then I trust

861
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers secondary a lot more than this Jacksonville secondary,

862
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: which just hasn't been tested all year for the most part.

863
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's the difference. So I think charters

864
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: win the game. I'm not even couple like two and

865
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: a half running on them. If you want to parlay

866
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: it with the Bills, I think that's fine to get

867
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: some plus money if you tell me that when the

868
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: dust settles on like Sunday night, this is the most

869
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 1: entertaining game of the weekend, just because it gets weird,

870
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: like I would be very prepared for that. Yeah, then

871
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: high weird factor here starting Sunday morning. I got a

872
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: fun fact for you. You probably know because you're a

873
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: big college football guy. Skyler Thompson was drafted fifteen spots

874
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: ahead of Brock Purty. Uh And honestly, I didn't even realize.

875
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: I didn't watch much Kansas State football last year, but

876
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: it looks like those two guys are playing completely different sports.

877
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: I would say if they could have a do over

878
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: on that one, they would take brock Purty over Skyler

879
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: Thompson and picked two seven. But I mean, I listen,

880
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of that game last weekend. I

881
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: think he's terrible. I mean, he's just he looks completely

882
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, overwhelmed as he should. You look at the

883
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: stats of Kansas State. It's not like the guy was

884
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: lightening people up. Uh. The Dolphins obviously officially have a

885
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: to a problem. I would imagine this offseason they're not

886
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna pick up a if your option. But that's a

887
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: whole another story. I just don't see how Buffalo doesn't

888
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: just destroy these guys. I mean that they are hanging

889
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: on for dear life with their quarterback situation. Yeah, I mean,

890
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: and then I think a lot of points. It's a

891
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: lot of points. I mean I looked this morning's thirteen points.

892
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: But if you tell me this game is forty to

893
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: ten or something, I could see it. Yeah. The only

894
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: thing that would scare me is I mean, maybe I

895
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: haven't met this game yet. I took some bills money

896
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: line with the Charger's money line just uh in the

897
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: part lay, but I would lean bills. I mean, this

898
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: this one got to nine with rumors that two of

899
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: might play, which I don't know where they came up.

900
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I didn't think that he would play.

901
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: And then it it came out to uh was ruled

902
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: out and went right up to thirteen, which might not

903
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: still be enough. And for what it's worth, over the

904
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: past twenty years, double digit underdogs in the wild card

905
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: round are one in eight against the spread. I would

906
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: think that I would think that I might have been reversed.

907
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: But a lot of times, just in this round, if

908
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: the spread is that high, it's probably that high for

909
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: a reason. It's not like there's the one seed with

910
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: a bye, and yeah, this the Dolphins are in trouble.

911
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: The only hope that they have is, you know, alan

912
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: could sometimes be sloppy. They gotta run the ball and

913
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: get a turnover early, like if theyre' have to play

914
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: from behind at any point, and I don't see how

915
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: their defense can slow down the Bill like this. This

916
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: just gets out of hand more and more. And then

917
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: if you bet the Dolphins, you're hoping that they're like

918
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: down twenty in the Bills say, look, we might have

919
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: to play the Bengals and then the Chiefs. Let's chill,

920
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: let's not get any injuries here, and then you're rooting

921
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: for a back door. So yeah, this is Bills are nothing. Uh,

922
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: it's it's really unfortunately we got that, we got this

923
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: game because it's just we've seen this and then you're

924
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: getting the third string quarterback. Now it's basically like a

925
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: bye for the Bills. So I said earlier in the week,

926
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we just got the wrong two teams in

927
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: the seventh seed. Obviously, the seven seeds I just think

928
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: moving forward are gonna be very hit or miss. But

929
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: the Lions and the Steelers would have at least, to

930
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: me given potentially two games um and the Points at

931
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: least have a d that could like let's make things

932
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: happen and ugly up this game. The Dolphins defense is

933
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 1: just not like they're not gonna be able to match

934
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: up here and then you're gonna be playing from behind

935
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: and it's just a mess. And yeah, Steelers and like

936
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: this would be a time one spot we could talk

937
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: about taking the eas and but unfortunately you've got in

938
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: the Bills Chargers money line parlay. Yeah, it's like plus

939
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: one oh two, like right around even money my devil,

940
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: and that I kind of like that. So instead of

941
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: taking like minus, I'm extremely confident that the Bills are

942
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna win the game out right, So you're basically taking

943
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: it to a little plus money or basically you know,

944
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: even money that the Charges will win the game. Uh.

945
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: And then you got little action on the Bills game

946
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: to just exactly Okay, Giants ad Minnesota. My logic is

947
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: going to be pretty simple on this one. Every single

948
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: person is gonna I think when you wake up on

949
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, all the shows gamblers, I think people are

950
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: gonna take the Giants. So I'll take Minnesota. I don't

951
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: like Minnesota. They are paper tigers that there's statistically their

952
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: point differential. It's crazy how they ended up where they

953
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: ended up. Obviously they won a lot of those one

954
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: score games. Hell that they could have easily lost the Giants.

955
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: What was that on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day or Christmas Eve? Uh?

956
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna take Minnesota because I think every

957
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: person in their mother is gonna take the Giants. Plus

958
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: three in the spot got tomb, Yeah, I mean that

959
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: the Vikings really got outplayed. They give up four hundred

960
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: and fifty yards to the Giants um in that game,

961
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: and really should have lost. I don't blame you for

962
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: doing that. I personally, Um, I tease the Giants to nine,

963
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: and then I tease them with the Bucks on Monday

964
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: night up to eight and a half. Um. You know,

965
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: anytime you can tease through three, six, seven in the NFL,

966
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good wager. And look, the Vikings they

967
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: win games by one possession. The Giants lose or win

968
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: games by one possession. So there's a high likelihood that

969
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: this game finishes Vikings by three to seven. Um. So

970
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: I was comfortable teasing the Giants up. But you're right.

971
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean this this line, if you think about it,

972
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the Giants can argue should have won.

973
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: But this line closed Vikings minus four and a half

974
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: at home, just you know, a few weeks ago, and

975
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: now you're laying three, and there's a high probability to

976
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: this game ends three with the way these two teams play.

977
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: And then you pushed, but they going by four or seven.

978
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that there there might be a

979
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: little value in the Vikings. And I do think that

980
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna about the Giants here. Everyone's saying the Vikings

981
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: are terrible. The only one by one possession, But beating

982
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: the Giants one possesion doesn't even make you that great anyway. Um,

983
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think really high likelihood this game ends

984
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Vikings by three to seven. Uh, and then yeah they

985
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: go to next week. They're probably whoever wins this game

986
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: is out. I I completely agree. I mean the one

987
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: thing Minnesota that place, I mean, it's an actual it's

988
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: an excellent home field crowd they've always had, you know,

989
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: in the Dome, lad, I think that place is gonna

990
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: be Monana's. I mean that skull chant loud. It's a

991
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: pretty easy landing spot for you know, first game for cousins.

992
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean the Giants. Day Ball has done an incredible job,

993
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: but man for man, they're just not that talented. And

994
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: to me, their issue, and this is gonna be an

995
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: issue if Minnesota wins this game. They played the Niners

996
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: assuming that the weather is much more normal in a

997
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: week and it's supposed to be, is their dbs, especially

998
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: their corners, is don't have a good corner play. Well,

999
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: what are the Giants gonna do? I mean, like Plexico

1000
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: Burrs ain't walk through that door. So it's like, now

1001
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: the Niners next week with I you can debot and

1002
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings and Kiddle like that, that becomes a major

1003
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: major problem. But in this matchup, like you know, I mean,

1004
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: what do the Giants want to do really ugly up

1005
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: the game? They're gonna try to win it like seventeen

1006
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: to thirteen and were in Minnesota. If they if they

1007
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: can score points like, it's gonna be hard for the

1008
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Giants to hang with them. Yeah, and Vikings offensive line

1009
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: is not playing well. They be able to run the

1010
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: ball the second half the year, so they're there. They'd

1011
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: be in deep trouble against the Niners and a staff

1012
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: that will work in your favor here for the Vikings.

1013
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: And this just this speaks to what I was talking

1014
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: about before with first time playoff quarterbacks. There's a lot

1015
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: of jitters, but first time playoff quarterbacks versus quarterbacks who

1016
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: have a start. So in this case, you have Daniel

1017
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: Jones making his first start against Cousins, who has playoff experience.

1018
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: Over the past twenty years, those first time starting playoff

1019
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have gone sixteen and thirty four straight up fourteen

1020
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: thirty five and one against the spread. That's twenty eight

1021
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: percent at first time quarterbacks where it's not twenty percent

1022
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 1: sample size of fifty games. That would apply to Daniel

1023
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: Jones here making his first start. It also would apply

1024
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: to the game you just talked about with Skyler Thompson.

1025
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: Uh taking on um Josh Allen does not apply to

1026
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: the Jags Chargers game and does not apply to the

1027
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Niners game because you have two quarterbacks that are making

1028
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: their first time starts. One thing to me, that's also

1029
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: interesting that the Giants Giants do upset Minnesota. I mean,

1030
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: what a win for Philly because then the Niners just

1031
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: play the winner of the of the next game. The

1032
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: Eagles get to play the Giants. I mean that that

1033
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: is a huge, huge advantage. So to me, this game,

1034
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: to me, it's a fascinating just kind of how the

1035
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs kind of shape out. Because obviously, if

1036
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: if Minnesota wins this game, assuming Dallas wins that, I

1037
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: think we've got a pretty suite final four in the NFC,

1038
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: you know for those I mean, I think the Niners

1039
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: would be Minnesota, but that Eagle Cowboy game would be

1040
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, but you better believe that thing is gonna

1041
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: be on like Sunday night football and that'll be fun. Um,

1042
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: let's speak of your team, the Ravens, who got some

1043
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: weird chick going on, and it all starts with the quarterback.

1044
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: It's still unknown. I don't totally play Lamar, like, am

1045
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: I gonna lay it on the line. We don't have

1046
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: a contract though. This all gets back to earlier in

1047
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: the season. I mean they offered him a hundred seventy

1048
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: million dollars and he said, no, we'll see how that

1049
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: plays out. Now. Ultimately, you know, there's there's even some

1050
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: buzz like could he not be on the team next year? Uh?

1051
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: If he plays in this game. I mean, I don't know.

1052
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I haven't read anywhere that people are people bullish thinking

1053
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: the guy is gonna play in this game. I would

1054
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: say the line doesn't necessarily reflect that, right, I mean,

1055
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: is that a line would be a field goal if

1056
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: he's playing and he was fully healthy. I mean, the

1057
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: Ravens were favored by four points three and a half.

1058
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I think it closed at home when they beat the

1059
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Bengals earlier this year. Um, and the ravenst defense is

1060
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: much better now, so yeah, this would be the yeah

1061
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: this is Hotley line if it was now. Last week

1062
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: it was Anthony Brown. The line was eleven and the

1063
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: Ravens showed a cover that game. They gave away twenty

1064
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: one points and turnovers. And they didn't play Mark Andrews,

1065
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: they didn't play Marcus Peters, they didn't play their starting

1066
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: left guard. They didn't mean they didn't play half their team. Um,

1067
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: and they started Anthony Brown. That line closed at eleven

1068
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: and a half. UM, So now you're sitting at eight

1069
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: and a half. I think, and this will be Huntley's

1070
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: first playoff games, so that the trend fits against Borrow.

1071
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: But um, I think this is a rare exception where

1072
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take the dog. This is high likeli

1073
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: to hear Bengals win this game by a field goal,

1074
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: and this is like to me, the number number one

1075
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: the home few does not big here. It's a divisional game,

1076
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of familiarity. They were just there

1077
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: last week. And the Rains don't need a quarterback. It

1078
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: really doesn't like over the past eight weeks. They don't

1079
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. They don't have a passing game. So

1080
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna go out and ask County, who can't

1081
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: really throw it downfield, to do much here. If you

1082
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: need Huntley to throw to keep you in this game

1083
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: against Barrel there, you're done your cook. It's it's not

1084
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna matter. So but the Ravens defense since they signed

1085
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: Rokuan Smith or traded for him, but arguably the best

1086
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: in the a f C. Their special teams are still

1087
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: the best in the nf C, and their coaching staff

1088
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: is still one of the best in the a f C.

1089
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: This is John Harball is five and oh straight up

1090
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: and against the spread on the road in the wild

1091
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: card round, never lost. Um. He's done this so many times.

1092
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: He's done it against Brady Um. You know they the

1093
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: most recent times against the Titans a couple of years ago.

1094
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: Been been there, done that knows how to prepare this

1095
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: team and the defense and special teams in a divisional game.

1096
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna be I mean they are Bengals are saying

1097
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens were playing dirty last week there if this

1098
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: is just gonna be an old fashioned I think an

1099
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: FC North game, and that the Ravens had the defense

1100
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: that can at least slow down since see and I

1101
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: think the one thing that people aren't talking about enough

1102
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: and it might not probably not gonna cost the Bengals

1103
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: this game. But the Bengals are now down to starting

1104
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: offensive lineman lost Lyle Coins and then last week they

1105
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: lost Alex Kappa. They're starting guard is one of the

1106
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman, and after he went out last week,

1107
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens were getting tons of pressure on Barrow and

1108
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: they weren't even playing their their full compliment of starters

1109
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: on defense. You saw it after Collins went down against

1110
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots in that second half. Patriots are getting a

1111
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: ton of pressure. So curious see how that plays out.

1112
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: But missing two now offensive linemen, both on the right

1113
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: side against this Ravens defense that's playing really well, they

1114
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: won't be afraid of going in here. Special teams coaching defense,

1115
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: I think keeps this within one possession. I like the

1116
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: Ravens at you know, eight and a half nine dead

1117
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: dead range that you can see if it gets to ten.

1118
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I think Dobbins a lot of Dobbins here,

1119
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of punning feel of goals, and then this

1120
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: stays within one possession. I think this game will be close,

1121
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: even though a lot of people don't think it will

1122
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: be well, and this is their first time because last

1123
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: year I guess they played the Raiders in the first round.

1124
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: They were favored, but it was nowhere near like eight

1125
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: and a half points. And then the rest of the playoffs,

1126
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: the Titans, obviously the Chiefs and the Rams like they

1127
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: were the underdog, and now they're getting treated like they

1128
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: are the forty niners, like they are the Chiefs, And

1129
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: like you said, they are now I mean a little

1130
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: underman assuming Lamar doesn't play, but a franchise and a

1131
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: head coach in an operation that one is not gonna

1132
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: be intimidated because they have a lot of I mean

1133
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: they're in the division, but too. I mean they are

1134
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: just kind of one of the sexy picks and potentially

1135
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: make the Super Bowl. It's a it's a different pressure

1136
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: coming at you for Burrow and the Boys. Yeah, I

1137
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: mean that's and un that's what that Raiders game. They

1138
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: car hits a helmet at the end that they're driving to.

1139
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: Then they beat the Titans by two. Um, and then

1140
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: they have that crazy comeback against the Chiefs. Is it

1141
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: pretty Remember Derek spiked the ball on first down like

1142
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: the ten yard line, just gave up a play. Unbelievable. Um.

1143
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think that the Bengals are, Um,

1144
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be a problem in the NFC here.

1145
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: But this this line is a little two out of hand.

1146
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: I've seen the Ravens go on the road and cover

1147
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: this number my whole life on ever since hardball has

1148
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: got there. I mean, I remember going up to New

1149
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: England countless times against Brady. They would always be plus seven,

1150
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: never be afraid. It would be Flacco against Brady in

1151
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: the game, would have twenty to seventeen. I think that's

1152
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: what we're in for here. Well, speaking of Brady, I

1153
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: don't think there's any franchise, any especially individual coach that

1154
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: includes Brandon Staley that has more pressure this weekend or

1155
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean it was Monday night than McCarthy. I mean,

1156
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: the pressure on the Cowboys to win this game. Uh,

1157
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: it's just massive. Obviously the line reflects that their favorite

1158
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: on the road in the wild card round. I would

1159
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: imagine once that doesn't happen, you you know, I mean,

1160
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that often, right, besides not accounting like

1161
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback injury or anything. Um, you know, I don't

1162
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: think Tampa was any good, um at all. Now they

1163
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: got Tom and he's actually obviously made some plays down

1164
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: the stretch, throwing a lot more touchdowns and Mike Evans

1165
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: got on the same page. But I don't know. I

1166
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: no way I could pick Tampa in this spot. But

1167
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to trust the Cowboys because I

1168
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: watched last year at home against the Niners and the

1169
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: Niners came in there just hit him right in the mouth.

1170
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: So this is a this is a massive, massive game.

1171
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: And honestly, then next week Dallas. I mean, if they

1172
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: win this game for to play the Eagles, it's not

1173
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: like their fans and people would be like, well, Dallas

1174
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: is used to play in the Philly It's not like

1175
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some huge underdog in that game. Especially

1176
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: I saw Jalen Hurts just said he's not acting like

1177
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: he's fully healthy. I mean, he's banged up. So you're

1178
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: getting the advantage your quarterbacks healthy. Their quarterback isn't in

1179
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I say it all the time, like one

1180
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: of the reasons he throws in a lot of interceptions

1181
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: is he does not have a strong arm, so a

1182
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: little bit like an Alex Smith or whatever. If he's

1183
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: a little inaccurate, it's a very catchable ball. When Josh

1184
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Allen some of these guys are throwing these Hunter mile

1185
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: on otur fastballs. The guys play defense for a reason.

1186
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: They don't have the greatest hands, but they're still NFL players.

1187
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: Like Dak does throw a ball that your average linebacker

1188
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: can pick. And to me, that's what would make me

1189
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: nervous in this game. Because Todd Bowls is a good

1190
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You can throw some stuff at you and

1191
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Doc, you know it's a tie

1192
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: game because he's got a couple of picks, you know,

1193
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: headed in the fourth quarter like that, that is a

1194
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: foreseeable possibility. Yeah, it's a really interesting game. And Dallas obviously,

1195
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty limping into the after last week

1196
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: against Washington just getting steroid. Their pass offense isn't playing that.

1197
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: While I get Dac with his turnovers, he's especially struggling

1198
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: against man coverage. And that speaks to a lot of

1199
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 1: what you just said. If the ball is a little

1200
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: catchable and you know that the timing is just a

1201
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: little off, and I expect Tampa to run a lot

1202
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: of man here, you would probably be getting three three

1203
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: and a half if Dallas didn't just get clovered last week. Um,

1204
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: And I said before I tease the Giants just to

1205
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: get them nine. With the Bucks at plus eight and

1206
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: a half, I think this will end up being a

1207
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: close game. What might end up doing it though, if

1208
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: it's not turnovers because Brady you know, over the historically

1209
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: and then every since the beginning of time in the NFL,

1210
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't turn the ball over. UM you can rely

1211
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: on that, and that could end up being the difference

1212
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: here in a road playoff game. But the difference might

1213
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: end up being this Dallas secondary is not playing well,

1214
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: not fully healthy. They lost one of their corners to

1215
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: an injury, but the Tampa Bay defense hasn't been healthy

1216
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: all year. You talked about Vida Van team Hicks when

1217
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: they've been both in the lineup together. This is a

1218
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: six and one. Their one loss came in overtime against

1219
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: the Browns um when there was a hail Mary late.

1220
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: And they're only allowing three point seven yards per carry

1221
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: without them and fifteen points per game without them four

1222
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: point eight yards per carry, twenty five points per game throw.

1223
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: On top of that, their secondary, which is dealt with

1224
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, specifically ants on Winfield and the corners.

1225
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: Now they're they're coming in here pretty healthy, and this

1226
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: is a defense that in Week one, when you know,

1227
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: beat Dallas nineteen to three, completely shut down that Dallas offense.

1228
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: And if you could stop the Dallas running game right now,

1229
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: which they can when they're full strength is a very

1230
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: good run defense, then you can slow down this passing attack.

1231
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: And Zach but who's really struggling. He's just not seeing things,

1232
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: so that might end up being the difference. I'm gonna

1233
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: say Tampa wins this game, and but I feel if

1234
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: it was three, I would take them. I feel more

1235
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: comfortable just teasing it up through eight and a half.

1236
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: Lines are pretty efficient this time of the year. If

1237
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: they do win, and I don't think Tampa's any good either.

1238
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: And one of the key things to watch here is

1239
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: their center who hasn't played all year, Bryan Jensen, who's

1240
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: awesome and I don't know how you know, will be limited.

1241
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: He might play. I don't know. He hasn't played a

1242
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: single snap in the regular season. He came off ir

1243
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: but his backups also banged up, so if he can't go,

1244
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: then the backup can't go. Then against the Dallas pressure

1245
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: and Brady, if you can pressure up the middle, then

1246
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: things get dicy. So that's something to watch here. But

1247
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: if Tampa can win this game, I don't I think

1248
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: that they're cooked against the Niners pressure. But if they

1249
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: if the Vikings win, and say, you know, and this

1250
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: is what I would want to Niners fan. Vikings go

1251
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: to the Niners. Brady playing that Eagles team who runs

1252
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: nothing but zone, but you never want to do against Brady,

1253
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: just letting them short pass it. I mean, that's what

1254
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: happened last year when these two teams played. I would

1255
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: not want that I was an Eagles fan. I would

1256
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: want that if I was, and I honestly I don't

1257
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: think it matters. I think that they're advancing next week anyway.

1258
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: But um yeah, things could get a little dicey for

1259
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: the Eagles. The difference between playing Tampa and the Giants big,

1260
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: big difference. If you think everyone's had enough of Tom already,

1261
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: imagine he just starts knocking off the Cowboys and the

1262
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: Eagles people lose it in mind, But I think you

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Speaker 1: spoke with the two big guys inside. The stats on

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Speaker 1: Doc over the years are pretty cut and dry. Right

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Speaker 1: when he has to throw, when they have to lean

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Speaker 1: on him to go Mahomes and Josh Allen and he

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Speaker 1: gets the you know, thirty five to forty five plus attempts,

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Speaker 1: that's when they get in trouble. Yeah. Yeah, if they're

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Speaker 1: run games, cooking and there's play act and that's he's

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Speaker 1: at its best in the Dallas offenses at its best.

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Speaker 1: But if you can't get the run game going and

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Speaker 1: you're asking him to drop back and when you games,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, you're right, that's when they get in trouble. Well,

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Speaker 1: if Cowboys lose this game, I just I know Jerry

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Speaker 1: has been loyal in the past, but there would be

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Speaker 1: a fury of anger from Cowboy fans to get rid

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Speaker 1: of Peyton time. I don't know. I mean, could you

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Speaker 1: see Sean and Jerry getting along? I don't know, two

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Speaker 1: big egos, two big egos. You know, Jerry doesn't like

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Speaker 1: paying Roger forty five million, Shawn is gonna want about thirty.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting how that one works. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it. Also, see I've seen David Shaw to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. I do not agree with that one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: David Shaw is uh, he's he was a good coach

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Speaker 1: for what he was, but he he's a kind of

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Speaker 1: a dinosaur for the NFL. Right Now, that's a that's

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Speaker 1: a CONDI Rice, you know, a little taking care of

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Speaker 1: her guy. You know she's she's part of the Broncos. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know if anyone's watched Stanford. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the last three or four years. They've been fucking terrible,

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Speaker 1: brutal um. But yeah, I like by the way, I

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Speaker 1: like your I like here. If i'd have took the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl right now, I'm gonna go Niners Bills, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, I would Jalen being banged up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles just aren't the same. It's just a period,

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Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. When he was humming, they

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Speaker 1: were awesome. When he's not, I mean, they're just I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say they're mortal. They're still really talented,

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Speaker 1: but they're nowhere what they were. And to me, the

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Speaker 1: Bills and you and I've been talking about it, are

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Speaker 1: just such a great dome team. And the advantage now

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Speaker 1: that this thing is gonna be in Atlanta or whatever

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Speaker 1: it was announced, is such an advance. If I was

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I'd rather like, can we just play in Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: I'd rather just play outside. I don't want to play

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Speaker 1: your outside. I mean they're wide receivers. We're not as

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Speaker 1: fast anymore and they're faster. It's it's aren't living on

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Speaker 1: explosive downfield. Um, that's enormous, But that's where that's where

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Speaker 1: we're at and obviously they got a win to get there.

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Speaker 1: But I think we'd all be a little stunned if

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Speaker 1: it's not. It doesn't end up Bill's Chiefs, Bengals fans

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Speaker 1: like one of Yeah, guys, we'll see Okay, stuck. You

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Speaker 1: have a good weekend, bro, Absolutely good luck to all

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Speaker 1: you Raiders. Enjoy the games, the volume,