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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's me Matt speaking to you and the

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Speaker 1: reason I'm doing so so you know that for all

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Speaker 1: you Los Angeles people, we are coming to you on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: December five at the Regent for him. I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: honey live It's going to be very fun. So all

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Speaker 1: you Los Angeles people December five, okay, by forever? Look

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Speaker 1: mad oh I see you? Why and look over there?

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Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, let's calling Matt. What

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Speaker 1: are you reading these days? Oh? Fuck you stop? I

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Speaker 1: know I'm not reading a Okay. The last book I

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Speaker 1: read was The War of Art, All the Ward of Art,

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Speaker 1: and you gave me loved it, opened up the doors.

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Speaker 1: It's great, right, I can't. I'm surprised you didn't read

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Speaker 1: it before it I had so warned you had read it.

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Speaker 1: And then I was like when when I was like,

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Speaker 1: have you read it? The Word of Art? And you're

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Speaker 1: like no, It's like, oh, but then you must. Can

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Speaker 1: I ask you a questions just around about way so

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Speaker 1: you can talk about what you reading? No, you just

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Speaker 1: want to textify. I wanted a conversation, sure, and I

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Speaker 1: do want to encourage reading any more. You have this

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Speaker 1: very anti intellectualism about you that you're like, I don't

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Speaker 1: read books, and like, I think it's an issue and

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Speaker 1: it's not what we need in this time. I read

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Speaker 1: online articles. Yeah, it's not about important things like politics. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think you need to. I mean with books, are

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Speaker 1: are windows into other worlds. Right, you're reading a book

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Speaker 1: right now, I think you should read. I think you

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Speaker 1: should read um like Role Models by John Waters, or

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Speaker 1: I'm reading I'm finishing Joy Luck Club. You should, you

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Speaker 1: read Joy Luck Club. Does Crazy Rich Asans count as

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Speaker 1: a book? And did you read it? Yeah? Absolutely, it

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Speaker 1: is a book. But I know the story and it's like,

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Speaker 1: like the movie. I haven't read it myself, which is

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Speaker 1: I'll admit, but I hear that the movie departs it

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Speaker 1: takes many liberty. I did read Big Little Lies, the

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Speaker 1: novel after I watched that. You did, and you read

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Speaker 1: Gone Girl before you watched the movie. I was very proud.

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Speaker 1: Um these like these like these like Gillian Flynn adjacent

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Speaker 1: I really like to read autobiographies of comedy women. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: top five most basic times about me competing with some

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Speaker 1: heavy Ellie Kemper just came out. I saw that Busy

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Speaker 1: Phillips comedy. Queen Busy Philip comedy, Queen Busy Phillips. Who

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Speaker 1: knew we all knew. Oh my god. Well we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about this with with the boy with the boys. Now,

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Speaker 1: who are the boys? The boys are I mean, true

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Speaker 1: prolific queens, I mean shared credits among them, they're I mean,

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Speaker 1: Let's just get that off. Let's just get that off

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Speaker 1: you have called your father, which I fucking love. Men

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Speaker 1: don't whisper starring TERRYO Terry. You gotta love sharing a

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Speaker 1: little culture at number seventeen. You gotta love Sharry uh

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Speaker 1: and search Party. I mean, And and we'll let them

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Speaker 1: on now where things kind of drinks the crew was

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Speaker 1: Search Party. I mean, I don't think it's many. I

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Speaker 1: is really if you guys have you guys have killed people?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's not. It's not fun. I

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Charles Rogers and m I wanted to chime in,

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Speaker 1: so your feelings, I wanted to I liked um were

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Speaker 1: That's what. But it was like a different Ellie Kemper.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Charles and I are the same, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm a reader. You read. I read so much more

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Speaker 1: so wait, what were you trying to say? It taints

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Speaker 1: He'll never understand Teddy Perkins. Yeah, I know enough to

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Speaker 1: know I respect that okaying is okay, but that this

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Speaker 1: you mean just drinking up to other people's Instagrams, but

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Speaker 1: a campus in Abudhani's like we fathom how where sixty

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00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: thousand dollars per year per person goes like, I don't

425
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: even get food. It's I can tell you from eating

426
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: there the food I liked that you liked it. I

427
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: love that you're a palette is not sophisticated. Um, I

428
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: I need to I feel like Jordan's okay, let's let's

429
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: just let's we're on Jordan And so we were you

430
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: guys started into the last part, the last part fast

431
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: Fish was Fish was fading out. I was so stressed,

432
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: so anxious. I came to a brunch wet. Um. So

433
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: that's what I told months later, I was like, you

434
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: looked soaking wet the next time I saw you, know

435
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: when you're dry, but you're a really bad emotional place

436
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: that you're just we two ladies and you are like

437
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: you've just you just you've just got a lot of

438
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: like active follicles. That that's probably what I was just

439
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: letting stressed all the time, so you were sweat well okay,

440
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: So anyway, like we we hung out like every day.

441
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: After that that we started hang out like every day.

442
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: We became like best friends. And then when when Search

443
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: Party was like green lit, I wanted him to write

444
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: on the show. But then we had to put our

445
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: feelings away because Jordan was like, I don't want to

446
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: have any like weird, but these feelings came up literally

447
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: the Saturday before the first Monday of the Room, I

448
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: think there was we were like literally or at least

449
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: like mutual adoration, you know, like yeah, yeah, like the

450
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: Saturday before yeah, before the Room started. And then it

451
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: was like, well, this is very confusing, like what are

452
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: we doing? Know, the Saturday before was the Halloween. That's

453
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: a whole I can't tell that story as far as humiliating.

454
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: It just involves me on Molly begging to be a

455
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: part of a three way and taking an uber that

456
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: car as Charles Manson and not to Jordan's story, we

457
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: had been making out with some guy, the three of

458
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: us like all night, and then they went home together,

459
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's not how this night was

460
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna go. And then and then I literally on the

461
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: way home. I asked the uber driver I was alone

462
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: with her. I was like, have you ever been in left?

463
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: What did she say? I don't remember that. I was

464
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: also crazy because Vish was at that part took Charles

465
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: aside and said, I give him to you. Yeah, he

466
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: cut his karmick ties with you and was like you

467
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: can have Jordan's and blessed like the courts. Yeah. But

468
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: I was like, funk that, like, I'm not like you

469
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: very much, but you've never been in control of your destiny.

470
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: That is true, either Vish or I have. The Room started.

471
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: The Room started, and we took like like two weeks.

472
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Like the first week, he was just like mad at

473
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: me all the time. I couldn't handle it. I could

474
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: not handle that three way rejection and Molly. I should

475
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: not have done Molly like two days before the Room

476
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: first half. It was a mistake. And it was my

477
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: first writing TV writing job, So I was like sparentually depleted,

478
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: and I would like couldn't look at Jordan's for like

479
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: a week, and I was like, oh, like I'm going

480
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 1: to get fired, like he hates my job. So then

481
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: when did it? When did the up swing happen again?

482
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: With like two months into the room, and then and

483
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: then we were like good and happy again and like

484
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: becoming best friends again. And then like two months into

485
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: the room, we went to Palm Springs just to like

486
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: figure out what we are and it was the weirdest,

487
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: like it was such a weird thing, just the two

488
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: of us, and we like hooked up again and then

489
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: like but it felt like sad or empty or something.

490
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: And then we watched The Intern and just made fun

491
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: of the Internal Night, which it was so joyful forth,

492
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: like we bondaged so hard, making like dissecting Nancy Myers movie.

493
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: That that was the first time I was like, oh, ship,

494
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: like I probably should be with this person. It was

495
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: just so confused. It was so confused. I never had

496
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: more confusion about like a person in my life. And

497
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: then long story short, the room ended. And then then

498
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: on Valentine, the night before Valentine's Day, Jordan had a

499
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: party and then we hooked up again that night, and

500
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: then we both texted a week later that we had

501
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: wanted to say I love you when we had hooked up.

502
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 1: And then and it was like do you know when

503
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: like you're like in bed with someone and you're like

504
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: thinking it over and over and over, but you like

505
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: you can't say. I was like, I'm so like, I'm

506
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: such a loser. And then I found out he was

507
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing, and it was a big relief. Yeah, wow,

508
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: that is a that is a crazy thing. Yeah yeah.

509
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: And then two weeks later we were like, we're going

510
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: to be a boyfriend, but then started like long distance

511
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: because I was in New York and he was. It's

512
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: hard to have that exciting moment and then be like

513
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: and then let's be separate. There's so much there's so

514
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: much texture to that. I love that it was such

515
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: as a saga, so good and continues to be It's true.

516
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: I I feel like I have to address this thing.

517
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: I think it's about time. It's about okay. I think

518
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: I feel like you all know except me. I so

519
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: hearing dooran to talk about like like posing as a

520
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: freshman or just posing as a student, like and like

521
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: and like all the stage or stuff, like there is

522
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: a part of me and this and this is just me,

523
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: this out there and there's there's no like there's no

524
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: good or bad way to take this. But like I

525
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: feel like Jordan's was living this life that I had

526
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: always sort of secretly wanted but was like pigeonholed by

527
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: my parents into being like you're gonna make your in science,

528
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna do this, like like I would like growing up,

529
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: Jordan would have been someone who I would have been like,

530
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, I want and um I feel like

531
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: that's still true now. It's like, wow, these things follow

532
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: us into adulthood. Right, are you saying relationship what I'm saying? No, No, No,

533
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying like Jordan's like is there but I've I

534
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: mean like I've lost that a lot of that part

535
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: of my Okay, Okay, so this is what I'm trying

536
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: to get out, Like, yes, are do you like is

537
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: that person still? Like I miss I miss being like

538
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't feel free as free really and like I

539
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: miss I do miss like the like more adventurous. And

540
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: it's not because of anything. It's just like you grow

541
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: up and then you're like you want to be successful,

542
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: and then you're working all the time, and then when

543
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: you're working you're like, oh, like I can't just go

544
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: to like Berlin for a month and people and like

545
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: you can't do the things that like but I'm I

546
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: really did do them. Like I did them, like from

547
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: from like fifteen to twenty two. You started young. I

548
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: started really young, and so like I don't feel like

549
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: regrets and like I don't really want it anymore, but

550
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: I do sometimes like miss just being like wild, but

551
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: you had it. I had it, but I did do it.

552
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I feel that way with like silliness, like I miss

553
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: being like free and silly and like people used to

554
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: think of me as like the silly one, and now

555
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't know. I think well because Charles

556
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: is the boss and so like, and it just stresses

557
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: you out and then you stop being like fun. I

558
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like I miss like being like almost

559
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: like everyone's little brother, Like I used to have that

560
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: thing in high school, but I'm not that anymore. It's weird,

561
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: But that's not exactly what you're saying. It's a similar

562
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: thing though. It's like things that you you missed about yourself.

563
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: But I also think if you're like into your thirties

564
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: fucking people in Berlin, like it's that was my Yeah,

565
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I had a terrible leading into that. I'm

566
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: so sorry that I directed it at like Jordan's past

567
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: or like upbringing but this is a thing you apologize,

568
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: but it's it's this Okay, it's this life stick. Okay,

569
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: you know what you guys know Matt Porter right, No,

570
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: he's he's great. He um. The only reason I mentioned

571
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: him is because I feel like he's like in that

572
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: sort of same. He was like something, well, yeah, he

573
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: wrote this thing about turning thirty that is basically just

574
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: being like girls, girls, girls. It's about girls is ultimately,

575
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: if you think about it, class it really is. It's

576
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: she wrote this thing where it's like, Okay, you have

577
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: all the structure up until you know you're late twenty,

578
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: and then you just have to get used to like

579
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: your thrusters turning off and you're just sort of floating

580
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: in space for a while, and you just have to

581
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: be used to the stillness of being like basically a

582
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: somewhat finalized version of who you're going to be. And

583
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I am. I feel like you and

584
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: I are in this place where we're like contending with that.

585
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: You're like, is this, well what I was going to

586
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: say to what Jordan's what what Charles was saying was like,

587
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: you say, used to have this thing where people thought

588
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: of you as silly and like almost didn't take you

589
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: as seriously. I feel like people don't take me seriously enough.

590
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: I want to be like that's my my kind of

591
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 1: thing is it's like how much longer am I going

592
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: to be looked at? Is? Like? I feel like you

593
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: can't have both. Yeah, I don't think you can be

594
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: with somebody that's like I take you seriously, but I

595
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: love you and I want to like I don't know,

596
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: it's not that doesn't work. Are afraid for you or

597
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: want to be You're afraid of you or one of

598
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: your best friends and you can't have It's weird because

599
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like and tell me if you

600
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: guys identify with this. It's like what people think they're

601
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: going to get from you and what people actually get

602
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: from you. It's like are sometimes two different things, and

603
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: they can't reconcile when they get something they're not expecting.

604
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: So it's like the second you try to change it up,

605
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: they're like, no, that's not you. I know you, or

606
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: they see how you relate to another person to be like,

607
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: oh I can relate to them the way that they

608
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: relate to that person. Oh I'll act like that. Yes,

609
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: I always constant I have the same thing though, like

610
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: especially in like in the Search Party Room more the

611
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: first two seasons, but like I'd say a pitch seriously

612
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: and people would like laugh at it, and then like

613
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: two minutes to go by and they're like, oh wait,

614
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: that's real and good and like it would like come

615
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: back to it, but they just assumed I was joking

616
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: because like I just like have a face that it

617
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: seems like I'm joking about everything. But i think it's

618
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: my face a little bit. But I'm like, no, bitch,

619
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm dead seriously, And is there a part

620
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: of you that thinks like because you are in the

621
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: room and everyone knows that you guys are together that

622
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: they think of like maybe it's is there a part

623
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: of you that projects that No, it's these these are facts.

624
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: It was the first season too, we weren't together than either. Yeah,

625
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: I know, but it's something I've dealt with my entire

626
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: life of like people not like understanding that I'm serious.

627
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: But now I'm I'm at a place now where like

628
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: I know how serious I am, and so if I

629
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: don't see it, I'm like it doesn't matter, Like I know,

630
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: I know it can be weird. Though, Like I feel

631
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: that way because my voice is kind of dead, Like

632
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: I kind of have just like a dead energy sometimes,

633
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: and so like if I'm joking, it's like sometimes the

634
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: same voices when I'm serious, and then I'll like say

635
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: something that's a joke and people be like oh yeah, yeah,

636
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, you don't know me

637
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: at all. Like if you think I'm capable of that,

638
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: it's it's like, oh my god, our friendships are shamp

639
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: The way I am is I'm so big that it's

640
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: like when I'm joking, you know, when it's borderline too much,

641
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: and then when I'm serious, it's like, okay, yeah, we're here.

642
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: But that's it's always extremes. You guys both have like

643
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: the big, big thing, and that I do envy that.

644
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: It's like, wait, what do you mean you do have

645
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: the big thing? What do you talking about? Yeah? But

646
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: you guys like can like be just like fun at

647
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: the drop of you know what I mean. Like watching

648
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: you guys do, I don't think there any live and

649
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, like they just know how to like

650
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: even if it's mental illness, really mentally are you ever

651
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: just like in a really bad mood and then you're

652
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: like you turn it on. You're like, oh my god,

653
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: I just did that. Yeah. I find that I can

654
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: always turn it on. And also oftentimes I'm just on

655
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: all the time and people it's too much for people,

656
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: like kind of like I always remember like when Bow

657
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: and Me, Sudie and Dave all went to Disney World

658
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: like Orlando, I could feel that they were like, Wow,

659
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: this is really this is a problem. You're here and

660
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was like, come on, we

661
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: have to go because have to do this other ride.

662
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: And They're like, we're in our late twenties and don't

663
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: we have to rush? And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, same,

664
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: we can. We can sit down. I'm not manic, and

665
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm like I see myself sometimes and actually one of

666
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 1: the things that I realize one of my lessons quote

667
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: unquote from the Acid Trip is I am like a

668
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: man child, and like I that's been hard about becoming

669
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: almost thirty years old and like at this point now

670
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: where it's like, and this is maybe weird to say,

671
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: but like I think people know who I am in

672
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: the comedy community, but I don't have like a staffed

673
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: job under my name, Like everything I've done, is that

674
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: it's something I've created or you know, something that I've

675
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: I've got done myself. And it's kind of like, huh,

676
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: like this thing of like people not taking me seriously.

677
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: I know it's coming from my own brain, but it's

678
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: something that's like matches this thing about my personality, which

679
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: is like a child, you're your Yeah, your best qualities

680
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: are your worst qualities and like and like you couldn't

681
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: be you without being a child, so part of your thing.

682
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: But then it's also going to be like your downfall. Yeah,

683
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: probably more in like personal relations said that I will

684
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: die by my own hand. You like, it'll be like

685
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: me just like what you're going to You're gonna tie

686
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: masturbating to an Instagram feed. Yeah. I think it's good

687
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 1: to be a child, like people love like Tiffany Hattish people,

688
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: the people who are the sparkliest are like children don't

689
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: hard and like I'm jealous of that because it's that

690
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: sounds so free. You know, if you can harness it

691
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,600
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692
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693
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Speaker 1: Do you okay? So talk about how okay? How is

730
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Speaker 1: men don't whisper? How did that work as like a

731
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: production in terms of you two? Because you can okay,

732
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: you did you to direct that, Jordan? Jordan direct but great,

733
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: And then like I can't imagine how just involved that

734
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: would be and to have that beat in some way

735
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: not emotionally fraught, but just like there's this like, oh,

736
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: you're working with like you're speaking another like I don't know,

737
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean this sounds that was really easy. The we're

738
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: making a feature out of it, and that was we

739
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: I feel like we delved into more of our real problems,

740
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: and the feature is more like really about our problems.

741
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Like the short was like here's gay masculinity problems, and

742
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: then the future is like here's that, and then here's

743
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: also I have this problem, you have this problem. We

744
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: just put him into the moment and now is a

745
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: little harder to write because like you almost like writing

746
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: a movie, you like literally have to agree what's right

747
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: and wrong, like morally and like and we're having like

748
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: different ideas about how we like bring ourselves into the relationship,

749
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: like we have to come to a consensus to me

750
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: to write this right. So like that was just like

751
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: moments when like our characters need to be equally bad

752
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: and you're like I agree, and I'm like okay, but

753
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: your character and my character is worse than your character,

754
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't agree, Like, okay, this is a problem

755
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: because now we have to talk about how just and

756
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: then it's like I'm not saying this because I need

757
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: to look good. Turn into a problem where like I'm

758
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: not as bad as him in the relationship and no, hell,

759
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: that's so interesting, Like I don't know, not that it's

760
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: the same thing at all, but like if you and

761
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: I were to like you and I have constant disagreements

762
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: all the time about things that I basically boiled down

763
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: to like morality ship, and like I don't know. That's like, well,

764
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean they get they they have to figure it

765
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: out because the movie is being made. We just let

766
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: it sit. You just keep working on it. Then it

767
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: didn't like fix it didn't fix the problem. It's it's

768
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: just kind of like no, it fixed us. Yeah we're

769
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: yeah right, But eventually you do get down to like

770
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: the product is something that you're both like yeah, yeah, yeah,

771
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: I feel like we understand because it became like it

772
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: was like super micro when we started, and then like

773
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of the way we like ended the movie is

774
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: so macro. That's like, oh, we can blame all of

775
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: our problems on society. I was kind of the time. Therefore,

776
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I said to say I'm sorry, and then the movies

777
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: over that. But I do want to get to the question, Oh,

778
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: this is the question we go to trials first. So

779
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: this is the culture that made you say culture was

780
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: for me, the pop culture that was defining it was

781
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: either you know, it doesn't have to be like a

782
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: specific film or musical artists or whatever, but that thing

783
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: that that made you like you your touchstone pop culturally.

784
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, that's the earliest stuff. Like

785
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: it's like all this stuff that was like handed to

786
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: me at the beginning. And my dad, my dad for

787
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: being like as much of a straight guy as he is,

788
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: like for some reason, like loves like Blake Edwards and

789
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: like loved like the Pink Panther, and like like it's

790
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: a mad, mad, mad mad world, and like all those

791
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: like goofy sixties comedies that like in mel Brooks that

792
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: were just like so like there's such a queer perspective

793
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: in the sixties. It's like so zany, and like they

794
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: weren't afraid of it because they were like, well, of

795
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: course it's not gay. We don't need and say gay yeah,

796
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: and like it was the gayest thing that's ever been made,

797
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: like lots of like champagne bubbles and like weird like

798
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: you knowhere, yeah, and so like that stuff is still

799
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: like I love camp deep, I mean we all do,

800
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: but like I just feel like Broad in camp or

801
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: such like dirty words today and it's like it's such

802
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: a I mean camp less so because we're like taking

803
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: it back, but like the broad straight people are taking

804
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: it straight people. It's totally or like American Hustle where

805
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: it's like straight people in wigs and it's like, oh god,

806
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: it feels horrible. It just doesn't work when you do

807
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: it a little bit. Yeah, that was straight for sure.

808
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: I did like it, but it was it was it

809
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: was like it's like igive he had a crowbar in

810
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: his hand. Yeah, but it's crazy music. Yeah yeah talking

811
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: to camera. Yeah, I don't know. I just love like

812
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: I think broad is. I want to bring broad because

813
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: it's you can still say lots of smart things and

814
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: be broad like it's and people are broad as hell

815
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: are cartoons like nobody is? Can I ask because my

816
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: criticism of A Star is Born was that that fucking

817
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: manager broad asked cartoon British manager ruined the movie. He

818
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but I think every moment ruined

819
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: that movie. You didn't like, Like I hated so much

820
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: it's not even worth going into. Yeah, I mean, I

821
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: was just considering the fact that like there was in

822
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: this a movie that felt specific and then this broad

823
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: ass character came in and ruined it, whereas like maybe

824
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: the movie, if it really wanted to be, should have

825
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: just been broad from the beginning, which yeah, we won't,

826
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: we don't have to get I know it was. I

827
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: felt like it was everything was so broad that like

828
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: his existence made total sense to me. I will say,

829
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: and you like shot me a dirty ass look in

830
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: the theater and the first fucking shot at the film

831
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: where he's just like unscrewing a fucking thing of whiskey

832
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. I was just or he did he medicates

833
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: in some way, and I just laughed. I was like,

834
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: already like this is this is like, so I shot

835
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: you because I was like I knew this would happen,

836
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: like I knew you wouldn't give it to know I was.

837
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: I was just laughing at how thickly everything was being

838
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: laid out. I was like, and I hear that, and

839
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: then he was performing to like a Trump supporting crowd

840
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: and then they're like we're nowhere in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

841
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. It's like I remember, I remember

842
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: Jordan's I think I remember seeing it on Jordan's story

843
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: like a few days later he was like, just like

844
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: ships on the movie, and I was like, okay, cool,

845
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: Like I'm not the only person, like I don't know

846
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: what I call it the blue and black dress. It's like, yeah,

847
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: you either see it or you don't. Wow. I think

848
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: I was swept away by it at first. And I

849
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: do still like the movie, like watching it, I don't

850
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: think it and I think that that's I mean, it's

851
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: Lady Got in a movie. It's like that's still what

852
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: it is. But you know, I do get yeah, but broad, Okay,

853
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just like thinking in terms of like the

854
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: man te Venus of it all. But broad for some

855
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: reason is equating in my brain as like not know

856
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: as as like offensive or like not well because it

857
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: was because because in in like a non woke time

858
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: when we did World Comedy, of course it was offensive.

859
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: Because we can still get away with that. I think

860
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: it's like big characters where everyone has like a hat

861
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: or something and it's like power. Right, So I would

862
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: love Austin Powers totally comedy, and I swear I was

863
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: not like virtue signaling in anyway. But but you're right.

864
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: But I was like, but I'm imagine if like Murder

865
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: on The Oriented Express had been funny people like well,

866
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: like like in the day, they would even make dramas

867
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: really broad and like that. Like now I feel like

868
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: they have to be so real and round or boring

869
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: or boring. Everything is boring now, I know, because everything

870
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: is so like trying to Like on Netflix, it's just

871
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: like all those titles are like fake movie titles from

872
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: inside a movie and it's just like a copy of something.

873
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because the OSCARS is so obsessed with

874
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: boring movies like Spotlight One. I was like, I mean,

875
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: I get that this is well made and about something

876
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote important, but dear God, but it's it's a

877
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: procedural TV show. It's like it's like literally the beat

878
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: by beat Law and Order. I had such a feeling

879
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: of like, oh my god, like when you've been in

880
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: an office feeling you're like, I can't have more fluorescent

881
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: lights like when I love that movie, I was like,

882
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I'm outside. Would say Michael Cyril Craton

883
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: was amazing and he and his stuff was all outdoors

884
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: with Rachel's they managed to light the outdoors. Really right,

885
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: well done movie. Everyone in it is great. But it

886
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: was fucking but subject matter why execution wise it was not.

887
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was just very prestigiing, you know what,

888
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: at least like doubt, Like it was stage that was

889
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: fucking violent, streep and the fucking monologues to God, Viola, Davis,

890
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: Fish Finches, ordinary people, Amy Edwards, Edwards Adams ards as

891
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: Amy Adams part I would have got, oh my god,

892
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: James James sister James. Yeah, like that doubt and now

893
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: it's like imitation, like those kind of movies people can

894
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: get through those. There's such a distance I never feel

895
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: close to. And I think that's why I'm like, fucking

896
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: gun to my head when the when the ballot arrives

897
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: in my hand, like I am, you're just I love it,

898
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Oscar about who has a gun to there? Make make it?

899
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: Make the movie three minutes short that goes to Sunday,

900
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: that's gone to my head. Oscar voting and there's two choices.

901
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: No Lions, No lion make a movie about a bunch

902
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: of faggots who hold an Oscar voter hostage. I had

903
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: an idea, yes, about a woman who goes into a

904
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: coma and wakes up at like she's like fifty five

905
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: years old and she has an Emmy and she has

906
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: no idea how she got it. Idea like, wow, don't

907
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: see a guy, I'm giving it. The I P is

908
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: like a lock for Jordan, Thank god. Wait, what were

909
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: you gonna say? I was gonna say, like, I will

910
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: if I ever do become someone that votes on that

911
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: ship or makes any decisions, I will vote. I will

912
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: vote for the fun ship. It's never going to vote

913
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: for the boring ships. And if Star is Born is

914
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: nominated for Best Picture and everything else is boring, you're

915
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna you will know what I will vote for, honey,

916
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: and it will not be fucking whatever the fuck? Green

917
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: Book is what. It's a movie that everyone's talking about.

918
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: Likeschel Ali and right. It's a weird reverse driving this

919
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: daisy thing right where it's like he's like this like

920
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: vegos playing this like fast talking, somewhat racist dude. And

921
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: then Herschel is just like rolling his eyes in the backseat.

922
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'll tell you what I saw a first man,

923
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: No thank you, thanks, and the thing is like it's

924
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: really well done, but I don't care. And then you

925
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: know what's fascinating about it is the movie fucking knows

926
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: the most interesting parts. And then the movie comes to

927
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: life when it's about her. And there's this one scene

928
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: spoiler for anyone that hasn't seen it. I don't think

929
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: you guys care, but one of the one of the

930
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: astronauts that is, yes, he does make it um um,

931
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: but one of the astronauts passes away and Apollo one's

932
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: prep mission and his wife, his wife is standing out

933
00:49:54,120 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: in the passes on. His wife is like standing in

934
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: the street one day, just like staring at it, staring

935
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: at and Clarifloy goes out and it's like, what's going

936
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: on and she just kind of looks at her like

937
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: she doesn't know why she's in the street, And I'm like,

938
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: here's an interesting movie about these wives that had Bally

939
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: like even even like the space of the thing of

940
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: the supportive wife and the only woman in the cast

941
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: is so annoying. But there was this interesting story there

942
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: about like the grief that comes along with and this

943
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: daily trudging along like my husband will probably die. That

944
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: was an interesting thing in the movie which they couldn't

945
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: explore because god forbid, they make a movie about the

946
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Armstrongs and it's not about something that used to something

947
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: I feel so strongly like well made things pissed me

948
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: off so much because it's like anything you can like

949
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: learn how to do. I don't care, like you know,

950
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: it's like math. I'm like, I'm not going to be

951
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: impressed by someone who gets math in the wrong hand

952
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: and yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but like no if it's

953
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: well made and has the soul. But it's like it

954
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: can't just be well man, I'll tell you something. Do

955
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: you speak about doing math? Fucking I loved Hidden Figures.

956
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: I love got to scream and give me Taraji screaming

957
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: in my mind. Like the Hidden Figures poster is them

958
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: walking away from the rocket ship, but then they're in

959
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: like an indoor plaza, like they're walking like unto like tiles,

960
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: but it's just like where is this rocket ship? That

961
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: also connects the truly the most like action packed moment

962
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: in that movie is Taraji getting on the phone to

963
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: call buzz Aldrin that like as he's walking into the rocket,

964
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: like that's that's like the most well high octane. It

965
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: was about something we hadn't seen before and it but

966
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: it's still like tripped like straight white America into going

967
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: because it was about space and you learned about people

968
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: that you had never heard about, and it was can't

969
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: be moments like her running to the bathroom because she

970
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: had to use the segregato bathroom and it's like she

971
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: almost lost her job because she had to run half

972
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: an hour. Aren't you so over trying like having to

973
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: trick straight people into watching just like yeah, it's like

974
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say what I need to say, but

975
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: like it's also murder murderer container of all. We had

976
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: like a very long conversation last night with a straight

977
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: guy that like it was just like well, agree to disagree,

978
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: like because and we were trying to be like as

979
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: like no, but like you know, minorities have had a

980
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: really hard time for years, and like it's okay to

981
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: feel victimized and like be vocal about it, like yeah,

982
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: but you have to like you know, like want the

983
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: other side to hear you in order to have progress,

984
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, that's so embarrassing, Like aren't

985
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: you embarrassing? And it's it does it does feel like

986
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: it's like now some some minorities over others. Like I'm

987
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: it's a long story I won't get into, but like

988
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: I've gotten some very like homophobic feedback in the last

989
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: month from from from me, from from Charles M. But

990
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: like the like the common one that like I just

991
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: heard on Friday, it's like, why can't this be a

992
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: show about people who happen to be gay, not a

993
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: gay show, And it's like someone who happens to be gay?

994
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: This is a big I don't think so, honey. I

995
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: have is people saying, well, being gay is just one

996
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: part of me. No, being gay is like a huge

997
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: part of Remember after after t R Night came out

998
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: or was forced to come out of the closet, the

999
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: thing that he said was, but being gay is not

1000
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: the most interesting thing about me, and already absolutely right,

1001
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: and there's not much more but like his gayness is

1002
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: not at the forefront. But whatever, I mean, what if

1003
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: it was, like who cares? It's just such a stupid

1004
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: thing that we've learned to say because straight people need

1005
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: to hear it, and that is wrong progressive to them,

1006
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to say. Still it's crazy. They're like,

1007
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: I think I had like aunts be like you know what, Matthew,

1008
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: when when they first found out I was gay, they

1009
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: were like, you know, we don't even care, like and

1010
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: we would love anyone that you brought over here. And

1011
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is like the thing that you're

1012
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: supposed to say. But like say saying because I don't

1013
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: need this, or just like great, great, I like saying

1014
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't care to someone who comes out. It's not

1015
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: you're literally being like I don't care. It's been there,

1016
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: so I have to say I don't care. It's it's yeah,

1017
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: it's more like this thing of like you know what,

1018
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: it's nobody's business and we support you, but we're telling

1019
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: you it's nobody's business. It's like, well, everyone else's sexual

1020
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: proclivities are my whole fucking ye. The way they sell everything,

1021
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: the way that everything is marketed to us, everything everything

1022
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: else that I said this literally to that Shrike guy

1023
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: last night. I was like, you have to understand that,

1024
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: like every structure that your people has built is the

1025
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: world we live in. Like literally the words we speak

1026
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: were created by right, right, So like how could you

1027
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: not see that? Like, well that a disadvantage And he's like, well,

1028
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: what he was saying, I know because he was saying

1029
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: I had I said everyone is homophobic, and he was

1030
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: like that's not true, and I was like no, but

1031
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: everyone is, like we are all participating in America, which

1032
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: is a homophobic institution, so by proxy, everyone is homophobic, everyone,

1033
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: every single person. And he was like, but that means

1034
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: like everyone hates gay people and I was like no, no,

1035
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: it literally doesn't. It means like even growing up, if

1036
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: you said like that's gay, you're a homophobic person. And

1037
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: he could not accept that. That was like he's like

1038
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: anything incidental isn't an act of aggression, and it's like

1039
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: it is like it just is like everything that participates

1040
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: in badness is he's not and it doesn't mean you

1041
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: can not be a good person like and just like

1042
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: exercise self awareness and want to be better. Totally. It's

1043
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: that thing where it's like someone can't accept whatever implicit

1044
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: bias they have in terms of races, then this this

1045
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: disqualifies me as a good personal Like I can't It's

1046
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: like no, just my personhood when you say I might

1047
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: have prigs and that is not It's like what we

1048
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: have to start telling straight people is like, don't worry,

1049
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: this isn't about you, and you're actually that's the that's

1050
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: the worst thing that you can hear that, But that's

1051
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: what they're asking. That's literally what they're asking for their like,

1052
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I will join your effort as long as I'm not

1053
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: burdened by my own experience, as long as you tell

1054
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: me I'm doing a good job. They're also freaking out

1055
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: that word like not talking about them as much like

1056
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: they're like used to being talked about all the time.

1057
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: It's like with First Man, the controversy around it being

1058
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: like they didn't show the American flag being put into

1059
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: the Moon's surface and they're saying it actually it kind

1060
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: of flapped, and they're saying like a big reason why,

1061
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: um is because Ted Cruise fucking rang the bell on

1062
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: it and he said to conservatives, don't spend your money

1063
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: on this because it's anti American, And that's all people

1064
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: need to hear. Even make you for them, it makes you.

1065
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: I was I had to drink with Ruby Ruby the

1066
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: world just meet her recently? Yes, And is the most

1067
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: I have never and I love herself, but she we

1068
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: were talking about like how all of this ship happening

1069
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: and all the like this this stuff I'm going through

1070
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: with like my projects being too gay for people, and

1071
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: it like it makes you want to go underground, like

1072
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: you're just like okay, then like then you don't want it? Yeah,

1073
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Like then like I'm never going to impress you, so

1074
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: like I just like have to figure out how to

1075
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: like make my stuff. Who wanted the underground now? Though

1076
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's just for the internet then, But I

1077
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: don't think there isn't. I think there needs to be

1078
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: a research and I think there is. And it's so

1079
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: funny because we before we have this podcast, we would

1080
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: go in and pitch the people and they would tell

1081
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: us every single time two niche two n two. Now

1082
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: we're succeeding with the most niche fucking thing ever, and

1083
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you never gave it a chance. And

1084
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: then to hear from those same people that they want

1085
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: to be a part of it, it's it's it's safe.

1086
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: And John actually talked about it too early. He was like,

1087
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: when you call me niche, you might as well just

1088
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: call me a faggot, Like, we know what you are saying.

1089
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: Do you know what you're saying? Um? Do we call

1090
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: them out? Like? Do you like when I was too

1091
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: young too and to experience? Now I would and now

1092
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, here's the thing you asked to

1093
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: meet with, Matt Rogers. You know what I mean? Like

1094
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: you brought us in the room because you liked us.

1095
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: This is us and we know what us is. You don't,

1096
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: And I get that that's hard to and you guys

1097
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: must deal with it all the time, getting network notes.

1098
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I speak to our close friends

1099
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: about the notes that they get on their projects and

1100
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's frustrating to hear from people who

1101
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: think they know you better than than you. And yes

1102
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: they are negotiating a lot um, but still it's like,

1103
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: take a fucking chance to be brave about the stuff

1104
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: that you like or otherwise, just get some fucking C

1105
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: C plus talent in here and they'll do whatever you

1106
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: say and don't ask to me with me. Yeah, if

1107
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: you're not going to make what I want to make. Yeah,

1108
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: when you were we were having this conversation, you guys

1109
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: were talking about all the ship that's going on like

1110
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: in the industry or just in the world in general.

1111
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: Both both. It's like, what what I'm experiencing with the

1112
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: thing I'm going through right now is people being like

1113
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: it's too risky, so it limits the audience. And they're

1114
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: right because like it is so divided that like some

1115
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: the people who aren't going to like it are going

1116
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: to hate it and they're not gonna watch it. So

1117
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: it's like, if the goal is to have everyone in

1118
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: the universe like yourself, like you're gonna be a shitty

1119
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: art now, yeah, it's gonna be the worst. Yeah, And

1120
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: so like right now, I feel like everyone is like

1121
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: they're not like they're not on the right side, they're

1122
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: not on the right whatever, but they're trying to find

1123
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: things so close to the middle that they can pretend

1124
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: to be liberal and still make shitty Stiff already have

1125
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: the liberal peak and TV like, and I feel like

1126
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: now it's going down. I would agree because and I

1127
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: like the show, but marvelous Mrs Mason, but the first

1128
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: party is baseline marvelous, Mrs masl I think is you

1129
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: saw it one that comedy, I mean, sweep the Emmys,

1130
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: it does well, and we have all agreed it exists

1131
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: or something. It is a pitch on the paper that

1132
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: everyone said. This is something that the most people will

1133
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: like because it's going to satisfy people who want female stories,

1134
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: who want stories about you know, women in comedy, specific

1135
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: stories because it is a specific story. It's also like

1136
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: takes place in an era of time when we were

1137
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: nostalgic for it looks good. You know, um, it's a chance,

1138
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: and you know what, Like I get why it is successful.

1139
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: I also think it is emblematic of what you were saying,

1140
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: which is not it's not a risk, no, not at all. Yeah,

1141
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: it just sucks that like we we again came up

1142
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: and in generation that it's like, oh my god, like

1143
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 1: maybe we can do this. It's in a real way,

1144
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: and like maybe we can like get real money to

1145
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: make our stuff and not do it John Waters style

1146
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: and not spend like a thousand dollars on a movie.

1147
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: And so like now if it turns back, that's like

1148
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: such like oh my god, like I have to rethink

1149
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: everything that I've worked and you think I am like

1150
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: experiencing it so hard right now. So like i I'm

1151
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: who knows though, like in two years, it's like everything

1152
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, there's five Netflix is that you

1153
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: have to sign up for, and like each one is

1154
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: going to have seven thousand pieces of content and no

1155
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: one will ever remember a single artist in history, and like,

1156
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna do. I mean, I'll

1157
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: just the fact that John and Kate couldn't get there

1158
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: exact and with so many platforms out there, not one

1159
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: of them would buy that show. We saw, we saw it.

1160
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: It was great, it was them, and there is an

1161
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: audience for that, and it's just like, seriously, these are

1162
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: two of the most talented people coming in the world,

1163
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: in the world. Can I see one thing about marvelous

1164
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: Mrs Basel, Yes, I can't believe that font that I

1165
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: dream like cocktail font with sparkles is because like to

1166
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: see that on a billboard and be like, that's a

1167
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: great show. You know. I like the show and Rachel

1168
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: Brown Anna is a friend, and I think she's so

1169
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: talented and she's amazing on the show. But the title

1170
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: of the show drives me insane, and I just think

1171
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: it's not a risk show, you know what I mean.

1172
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: It looks like Nanny McPhee, Like from the n McPhee.

1173
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: It looks like she must be a witch. Rights like

1174
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 1: like she's marvelous. She's gonna a pretty little witch. Got

1175
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: up to some tricks in this shows. In this show,

1176
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some tricks happening. Yeah, now you know

1177
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Speaker 1: what I love to do sometimes? What do you love

1178
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: to do sometimes? Is to just lounge in my room?

1179
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: Go on Everlyn Jane and truly shop till it's not cute,

1180
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: but it is cute because it's from Everline. It's always cute.

1181
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, ever Lyne is the cutest. And here's the thing. Um,

1182
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: let's just imagine a scenario. Would you buy a fifty

1183
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: dollar T shirt if you knew it only costs seven

1184
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: dollars to make? I mean I would not. With ever Lyne,

1185
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1186
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Speaker 1: They give you the breakdown of the price of the

1187
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Speaker 1: production of whatever garment you're buying, and they tell you

1188
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Speaker 1: they're real costs, so you know you're never overpaying. Ever

1189
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: Lene wants you to know what you're paying for and why.

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Speaker 1: They are radically transparent about every step in their process,

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Speaker 1: work with. I'm literally right now, and this is such

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Speaker 1: a coincidence. I'm wearing head Totoe ever Lyne I have

1194
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Speaker 1: on the Cashmere Crew. I've had my Weekender bag for

1195
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: four years at this point and it still works like

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01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: a charm. I have the slimpet gene on right now,

1197
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Speaker 1: and the Japanese Oxford for men is so stylished on anybody,

1198
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Speaker 1: and you know I love a straight fits down um.

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Speaker 1: and the spelling B or something what is this And

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Speaker 1: the winner of the script spelling me is Matthew Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll be taking my winnings and using them

1209
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Speaker 1: at ever Lane. I do want to say really quickly,

1210
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: like peak broad drama for me is uh the hours

1211
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: with Jane Moore and like yeah, like that is like

1212
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: she was there was no reason for her to wear

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01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: that nose, but she wore that nose broad drama. I mean,

1214
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: Nicole Cayman knows how to do broad. I like this

1215
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: period of her just cycling through costumes. Look new, look, No,

1216
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: you don't believe the Destroyer trailer. Have you seen it?

1217
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: She is in this new movie called Destroyer, and she

1218
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: plays like a woman who's going to kill everyone. It's

1219
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: like a d glam thing. But it's so funny that

1220
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: woman puts on a wig and she is a wig actress. Yeah,

1221
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: she is boy e rased. She like it's like, oh,

1222
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: these people don't go together like Lucas Hedges wrestle. This

1223
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: new version of Rustle Crow that we didn't know he

1224
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: was slowly dying in a trailer somewhere and now and

1225
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: and the goal given in like full Dallas. It's like, wait, wait, wait,

1226
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: this is not an American family I have ever seen.

1227
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: Everyone is in a different drag in that movie. I mean,

1228
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: that might be the closest thing we're gonna get this

1229
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: year to a broad drama. Boy race, is that fair

1230
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: to say? Well? The thing is, did you see actually

1231
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: the Bible up? And he's like, do I throw it?

1232
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: Like in it be in box lux might bee like,

1233
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: is glam glam drags? Have you seen this trailer for

1234
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: this movie Natalie Portman in box Box. It's essentially she's

1235
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: playing Lady Gaga And I know what, do you know

1236
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: what the movie is about? It? Well, she's not the

1237
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: main character. It's Jude Laws the main well sort of,

1238
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: so Natalie Portman takes over the second half of the

1239
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: movie or half of the movie. And if it's non linear,

1240
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the movie is about a girl

1241
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: who survives a school shooting and during a tribute to

1242
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: her classmates that have died, she does a performance and

1243
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: they sign her to a records and Lady Gaga pop star,

1244
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: and it's about the trauma of that being the reality

1245
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: of her success. I love that. I feel like, well,

1246
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: I had such concerns for Ama Gonzalez. I'm like, you're

1247
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: too famous. You don't like she's she's like, she's a

1248
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's the new doctor who God, But

1249
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: that you're famous now you don't know how to deal

1250
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: with its show or and the other one and the

1251
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: other one to David and you want to know why,

1252
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: It's because they're both attractive kids. And the thing is

1253
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: like you want you worry about what they're gonna do

1254
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: with someone like that that and you have to think me. Media,

1255
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: they look at you and they don't think message. They

1256
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: think money. Yeah, that's that's true. You Bowen, that's me.

1257
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: They will get you and they say money message. No,

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01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: Bowe has no message. Absolutely yes, sex message. He's not

1259
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: a message. I think Fox Loox looks really good. But

1260
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: don't the fact that that's what it's about make you

1261
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: want to see it more because it But don't the

1262
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: fact that that's what it's about. Yeah, that's me, that's

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: what it's about. This is mckensas mckensis. This is a

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: call back to mckensas my characters. I saw this character

1265
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 1: that you worked with, right, just marry the ketchups. Oh

1266
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: my god, somebody you work with that like a restaurant,

1267
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who was married? I don't remember this.

1268
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: She was like, just go marry the Yeah yeah yeah.

1269
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: I think I got an altercation with someone at work

1270
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: and the way she ended the conversation was to go

1271
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: marry the catch. That was the end of that. Whether

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: I did it or not, I was bad at my sidework.

1273
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know, But are we like um part

1274
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: of like your crew, do you feel like like on

1275
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: the periphery on look at you too? And I'm just

1276
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: like I'm a little bit like inspirational. Yeah, I'm like

1277
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: they're doing something. I feel like you guys are having

1278
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: we look I want to be part of that New

1279
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: York I think, what can I say? What this is?

1280
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: This isn't New York and l a thing because I

1281
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: think I think the way I see like, oh, you

1282
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: guys in Los Angeles and like you guys are like working,

1283
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: and I think you guys see us in New York

1284
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: and we're like performing. And Sudi says this sometimes where

1285
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: she says, like study at like at like four, got

1286
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 1: her job at U S and now and so she

1287
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: sometimes I say to her, like, God, you have like

1288
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: this job. You have this like boss ass job is

1289
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: like all this cool stuff. And she says, but you

1290
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: guys are out there, and I was like, you know

1291
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: you're the grass is always. But I look at you

1292
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: guys and I think doing a cool fucking show that

1293
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: everyone loves that you guys like must be to stand

1294
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: by because it's such a good show. I mean, come on,

1295
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: what's better than Search Party? John should be up for

1296
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: an Emmy. You should be up for a perennially and

1297
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: should be and and the show should be up for

1298
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: writing Emmies and directing amazing, and you know it should be.

1299
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: And I think people do think of it as a

1300
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: prestige thing. But it's this weird thing because I do

1301
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: watch these awards races and it's like this attitude about

1302
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: knowing that something is better than everything else, but saying

1303
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: we have to count out because of the network. It's

1304
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: the same story with crazy ex girlfriend. You know, well

1305
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: both of them have like a queer perspective. And even

1306
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: though like Search Pretty is an overtly gay, I mean

1307
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: it's gotten like it it entered the door not gay,

1308
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: and it's gotten gay and especially this season. But like

1309
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: I think just like queer perspective is like, oh well

1310
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: that's good and that should go over here and we

1311
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: should adore it that we shouldn't like let it in

1312
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: all the way. And it's like you kind of have

1313
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: to be and this isn't this is disagreeing with what

1314
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: you're saying. It's different, but like you kind of have

1315
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: to be like boy or race or something, you know,

1316
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: like where it's like here's gay and like the most

1317
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 1: obvious for in order, it is like it's that like

1318
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: it is niche, like no matter what, like, but these

1319
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: things that are there are so many things that are

1320
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: nominated that are also niche. I think it genuinely comes

1321
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: down to like the politics of the hole. You don't

1322
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: see a representation of the best off. You see a

1323
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: representation of the best or it slips through the cracks

1324
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: because it's like at Homes with Amy Sierris, where it's like,

1325
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: but there's no competition. It's like, yeah, comedy is a

1326
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: big competition that Schmidt. Yeah, and as as long as

1327
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: it's as long as it's a thing, it will be

1328
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: up there. And I love Kimmy Schmidt is the only

1329
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: funny comedy up there because Atlanta is great comedy. Marvel's

1330
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: Mail is good. It's well made, but it's not imagine

1331
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: imagine like laughing out loud. I left out, I left

1332
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: my fucking ass off the Unbreakable because there's jokes. These

1333
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: other shows don't have the jokes. When she's like I

1334
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: left the tuna in the fridge to long. Yeah, it's

1335
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: set up and that show is broad that is brought

1336
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: Tina Fey gets brought. Yeah, she does. Yeah, she really

1337
01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: does braces camp. She does. Should we move on to Jordan? Jordan?

1338
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I really was thinking so hard about

1339
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,480
Speaker 1: this and answer answer going to say it's so pretentious.

1340
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: But I felt like the first thing I fell head

1341
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: over heels in love with was Sondheim. And that's that's

1342
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: the moment I realized that I wasn't ever going to

1343
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: be in real culture because like I would like try

1344
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: to introduce Sondheim to like my high school friends and

1345
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: they wouldn't get it. At still, did you take all

1346
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: your friends to Todd? I took us all. I said.

1347
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: I knew I had a premonition that like this wasn't

1348
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: the thing I was going to sell down. I like,

1349
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: but I brought friends over to watch Into the Wood,

1350
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: like the whole thing into the Woods, like people left

1351
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: the recording of Burne. They don't get it. Yeah, And

1352
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: I was like, if you if, like if the thing

1353
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 1: that is like making my heart star more than anything,

1354
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: like that's making me think in a different way than

1355
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: had isn't being understood, like this is just what I

1356
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: have to Like that just speaks to you sort of

1357
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: having a more advanced taste brain, brain, What did you

1358
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: saying that night at the Duke Pus that you came

1359
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: in with Clarry Owens. You say, he says, Sunday in

1360
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: the park and then you said, you know, you might

1361
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: have saying ladies who want great? Oh yeah I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yo,

1362
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: oh my god. That was that was that was a

1363
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: wonderful moment. And that was the first time we met

1364
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: in person. I think so because we had been internet friends.

1365
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't even think we were internet friends. I don't

1366
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: think the first night I thought you weren't like wanted

1367
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: me gone, No, oh my god. Something. That was always

1368
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: a weird negotiating thing for me because I was the

1369
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: first lady of the duke Pus at that time, because

1370
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: Henry was my betrothed. Yeah yeah, and so people coming

1371
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: in you were like a little like not even people

1372
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: coming in. I was always just kind of like negotiating,

1373
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: like I wanted to make sure everyone's having was having fun.

1374
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah that is actually, now that you think about, that's

1375
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: what I sensed. It was like there, like I felt

1376
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: like I was hosting. Yeah exactly. And honestly, I would

1377
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: love to to sing again. So I don't get That's

1378
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: like one part of me that like I have completely

1379
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: lost and I miss singing. Can I tell you something?

1380
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: I hate that that's the impression I gave off because

1381
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: not the first time. Don't don't worry. But like my

1382
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: manager Karat told me that the first time she met me,

1383
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: she still thought I was being c U n T

1384
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: y to her and I was like, I hope, I

1385
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: don't like give off this her words. Um, but it's

1386
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: just like I don't. I hope that's not the impression

1387
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: I give up. Well maybe maybe like maybe there was

1388
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: like a few months where you were doing that and

1389
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: like now you're overhead? Was it as terrible plague? And

1390
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: don't the fact that you were struggling mean that you

1391
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: do you do that to him? Don't you feel that?

1392
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: Don't like? Um, that's that's a great answer. So the

1393
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: best best show for you? But yeah, what do you love?

1394
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean the one the first one that, yeah, I

1395
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: mean like Sunday was so huge for but then Comedy

1396
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: was also really huge for me. Those I would say,

1397
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: those are my two and I have very soft spot for.

1398
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: We're going to see Company. We're seeing Company in London. Well, yes,

1399
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: Jeffrey was telling us, you guys are all going to

1400
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: the Christmas. Yes, he did tell us that that sounds

1401
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: Wait can everyone say there sometimes? Yeah, I mean Mine

1402
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: is Mine is basically I think it's like a masterpiece.

1403
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: Mine is Sweeney. I mean I just think it's talk

1404
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: about specific and blowing it out and just music, the performances.

1405
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,520
Speaker 1: I love that you can still argue about character motivations.

1406
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: I loved the way that it can be interpreted so

1407
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: many different ways. I just watch watching that comedy as

1408
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: an adult, I'm like, that is Sanheim is such the

1409
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: artists you look up to because you knew where he

1410
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: was at in his life every show and it's like

1411
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: you watched Sween and you're like, oh, like he really

1412
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: had a darkness about what life was like. That show

1413
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: is so about how humanity is bad. And so I've

1414
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: been in those places and like to make pieces of

1415
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: art like reflecting everything you feel in a certain time period.

1416
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: And it's like companies all about being single. Merrily is

1417
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: all about dreams, like like you see like at what

1418
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,480
Speaker 1: he was feeling at every stage. It's just it's Shakespearean,

1419
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: I feel, I mean, the characters are I just at

1420
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: any time there's a performance of it, I always seek

1421
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: it out, whether on any level, because I'm just like,

1422
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: I just love this and that some of the music

1423
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: is so truly beautiful. I mean it's startling, and I

1424
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 1: love that it's scary. It is scary. It is very scary.

1425
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean the music is shocking everyone everyone's filthy, and

1426
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: everyone's like a beggar. The movie bothered me so much,

1427
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: But even the movie, I'm like, I'll still watch it

1428
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: because it's Sweeney and I still think there's good things.

1429
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: Then it wasn't shot for a musical either, just it was.

1430
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: It was a total mist but the world want to

1431
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: be in it no matter what. There's things about it

1432
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: I love, like like I like, I think that Helen

1433
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: and Bottom Carter shouldn't have been cast in the part.

1434
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 1: But there's elements of her performance I like. I like

1435
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: her team being like really racked about the things she's doing.

1436
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: I love that how obviously in love with him she was.

1437
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes the way Angela Lansbury plays it, it's like so

1438
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: wacky that I missed her motivations and I know that's

1439
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of like I think, don't you feel like she

1440
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: was like like, instead of singing to like you, she

1441
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: was singing to the back of her head. Yes, like

1442
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: she was like trying to bo Yeah, don't you feel like,

1443
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean you couldn't understand the words, which is at

1444
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: least bite then and if you can't understand the words

1445
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: in a Sondheim thing, yeah, yeah, every song is just

1446
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: there's a whole world in every song. I love that.

1447
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: Don't you feel Like with the Helen and Bottom Carter,

1448
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: You're always like she's like your friend. That's like up

1449
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: there at the talent show and you're like, please win,

1450
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: Like you are like please please, like they kind of

1451
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: miss the mark and you're like, but I do know her,

1452
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: and like yeah, I mean, and you know what. The

1453
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 1: thing about her is just like do something different. You know,

1454
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: I think her best performances Beltrick's strange, it is, that's

1455
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: her freest. Yeah, that's not even do something different, it's

1456
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: like do what you do well as well as as

1457
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: well as you can. I agree with you. I send

1458
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: what I said oceans Ate like exposed like her, what's

1459
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: like crazy about her as an actor? It was just

1460
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: like every it was like she had nineteen reactions to

1461
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 1: one sense and they would keep all of the name

1462
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, cut away from her,

1463
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: away from her she was like, no, she was just

1464
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: giving you options to all the are you crazy? You

1465
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: can do not batty, she can do grounded like big

1466
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: Fish was her just Oh my god, I should hope

1467
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: everything what happens that Then I recently said on this

1468
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: pod that makes me cry every time. I used to

1469
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: watch it if I needed to cry, and then I

1470
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: watch Yes still to this day. Well I still haven't

1471
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 1: seen Company, and I still haven't seen Assassins, but Assassins

1472
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: and there's probably something else I still haven't seen. But

1473
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean because like I always, I

1474
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: knew Into the Woods really well before we started dating.

1475
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: Then Jordan's we went to go see a few more

1476
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: son and things, and I would say it's between Merrily

1477
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: and um sending the partner George, like I can't like Merrily.

1478
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: I was like we saw in l A. It was

1479
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: a pretty good production and overall and I was Wayne Brady,

1480
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 1: Wayne Brady. It was next resented, resented every moment of

1481
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: doing got Lyne. I think he was on pills, Like

1482
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: I really think he's like gone, no he in oh sorry.

1483
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: I was like wait, but like he has yesterday own

1484
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: like that whole Like Fran he literally was for foreting.

1485
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: It's such a gift to have that be given that song. Yeah, God, Um,

1486
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I just love the like all

1487
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: this stuff about success and like the sadness of like

1488
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: friendships part and like I don't know, I feel like

1489
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: I felt that now and like just like harnessing that

1490
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: energy of like hope, Like don't you are you so

1491
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: nostalgic for being so young and hopeful? Like when I

1492
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: first move so genius that the most positive song is

1493
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: this last song and when you first moved to New

1494
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: York and you're like looking up at that, like you

1495
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: saw the light on the buildings and you were just

1496
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: like fuck my future and it was so like powerful.

1497
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: And now I'm like I'm late. It's like nothing, It's

1498
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: like I'm so hungry. That's like that's my thoughts now.

1499
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: And then you welcome around for thirty minutes because you

1500
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 1: can't decide what to eat and that's this morning. I'm not.

1501
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm just sad about our time, I know. Or what's

1502
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: the other one though? Um? I mean the song where

1503
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: they're all like putting on the play together up door?

1504
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: That was that? The show in Ladybird too, was that? Yeah?

1505
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: Which yeah, yeah, it's such a happiness March blind Mark, Yes, yeah,

1506
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: this is boring, but I feel like Sunday Too or

1507
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,560
Speaker 1: Into the Ones was the first thing I saw, just

1508
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: like the Tap, like Sumter because it says everything about

1509
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: every every single thing, and like, um, and I thought

1510
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: that movie was a lot closer. I actually didn't. There's

1511
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: a few things that I was like, I don't want

1512
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: to see James Cordon in my life ever, and likely

1513
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: Blunt was fine, but I just thought like it like

1514
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: she was good. I just really like to til and

1515
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: too fake. At the same time, I get that like

1516
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: the look of it was not music. They're all They're

1517
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: all well, I have a theory. I have a theory

1518
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: about why musical movies don't work now, just because like

1519
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: for musical to work, it has to look fake enough

1520
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: that you could suspend your dis believe that people are singing,

1521
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: and like when they look real, you're like, wait, my

1522
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: brain doesn't understand, Like it just seems that why why

1523
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: like old movie musicals work and like New Ones, it's

1524
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: the same problems like Trassic World or any of these movies.

1525
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: It's like I can't tell what c G I like,

1526
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: I just just stopped my eyes hurt book. I'm like,

1527
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: this is like I'm not impressed. Like after two minutes,

1528
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm not impressed, and it looks wrong. They're going to

1529
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: suck up my kid, aren't they. They're going to suck

1530
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: up Lion King. I mean, Wicked is like if it

1531
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: gets funked up, it's kind of fun to suck it up,

1532
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. To me,

1533
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be the best, but I

1534
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: know other people have that. Like, No, Arianna is doing it.

1535
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: She's going to be She's going to be. She could

1536
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: be Glenda. She would be a better, would be a

1537
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: better Linda. I can't have any of the comic personality. No,

1538
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: you do not have to be an actress to play Alpha,

1539
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: to be an actress to Glenda? Righty funny. I'm sew

1540
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: in my head about this. Who's gonna play Linda? Joel said,

1541
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: this actress Dove Cameron, Who's who is in Very Good?

1542
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Who's in Hair Spray Live? Yes, she played Tussle and

1543
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: that was a very were like enough did we like her? Mean?

1544
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: I wanted this is annoying, but I wanted Anne Hathaway

1545
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: and Kristin Bell. But now they're too old, right, I mean, yeah, yeah,

1546
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't want to see Kristen Bell

1547
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: do that. I don't think she's right for it, but

1548
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I don't think I know every choice. Yeah,

1549
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 1: I like I could probably do every choice that she

1550
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: would be. I don't agree. I think I think she's

1551
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: like a dark, bitchy energy that I think that good place,

1552
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: A good place which I didn't see from her before.

1553
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 1: Can Margot Robbie saying she'd be good? We were like

1554
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: she cannot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like too much

1555
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: of like a I'm a huge fan. Yeah, I don't

1556
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: really know her besides Titania, She's she's you know, who

1557
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: would be a fucking amazing Linda is Vanessa Bear Like yeah,

1558
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: like it would be so genuinely funny and like but

1559
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: like Glenda has like a weird, froggy voice as like

1560
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: she needs that. Yeah, Like I don't know, especially like

1561
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: young people. I don't know how Nicky Cameron or whatever.

1562
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh she sucks, like just because I don't

1563
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: like any young person. I don't know. I'm like author

1564
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: a shoe store, I don't I don't know there's store

1565
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: Dove Cameron's Instagram is Instave Cameron. I just remember one time,

1566
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: like Jennifer Hudson, who I follow on Instagram, posted Dove

1567
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: Cameron singing and you're just hearing the background Jennifer Hudson

1568
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: and going. She just looks like she's one of those

1569
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 1: people who like is She's like she's the female Zaccaffron,

1570
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: where she's so good at this thing, and then like

1571
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: she puts on like gender drag, like aggressive dragged to

1572
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: be like I'm a woman or I'm a mask. Dude.

1573
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: It's like, wait, this is Dove Dove camera cameras. Where

1574
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: is that? Zac eFront is like right right right, right,

1575
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: right right right, Um, okay is it time? It's time? Okay,

1576
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. I don't think so, and I

1577
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: don't think so. Sorry for did we have to come

1578
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: with stuff for the podcast? You know what do you mean?

1579
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Like we don't really have I I thought I had one,

1580
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: and then I found out that John Early has been

1581
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: doing like a whole set about it for like years.

1582
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: Well why you just go off the cuff, go off

1583
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: the wet. A couple of times like the one I'm

1584
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: going to do to night is like not, so then

1585
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna go first and then and then you guys go,

1586
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: I think, but it's not like you don't have a

1587
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: trouball situation, so we should have something. Yes, yes, yes, um,

1588
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: is there anything in this bag? Muffin? Okay, muffin? Yeah? Sure,

1589
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: they're mostly dry. Yeah. I mean there's a good part

1590
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: and it's the top and the rest of it is

1591
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: a fucking night. You have something. I have something, right,

1592
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so on the

1593
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so honey barbecue like

1594
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: barbecue food. I don't think because you're sucking sticky, you

1595
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: really like you fill me up immediately. I don't think

1596
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: so honey or sweetie or a sweetheart food that the

1597
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: second I've taken two bites of you, I'm full. Because

1598
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: I like to enjoy everything. I don't think so honey barbecue.

1599
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: Whenever you are in front of me, I ate the

1600
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: mac and cheese and then mashed first, watch I go

1601
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: to you last. I don't think so honey barbecue. There's

1602
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: a lot other foods I'd rather eat. Here are some

1603
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Japanese food. Here's another one. Fast. Honestly, any sort of

1604
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: fast food. I would rather ingest it than you barbecue bitch.

1605
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Also, every single barbecue restaurant

1606
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: there's a long ass line because a lot of these

1607
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 1: other motherfucker's like barbecue, and that's good for those honies,

1608
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: but for me, I don't think so, honey. I'd rather

1609
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 1: go to let's list, uh southern restaurant, which is never mind.

1610
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: I went to Timberlakes Restaurant UM in New York and

1611
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: it was trash. It was not good, and don't go there.

1612
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: It's a barbecue joint. And I don't think so, honey.

1613
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: That is I tell you the feeling full thing, and

1614
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: you're right like three by immediately you really with barbecue,

1615
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: with ribs, with like barbecue anything. You start eating it

1616
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: and you're like something about the like hearty smell of

1617
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: it or something, but you're always and you get tricked

1618
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: by barbecue because you think you want to eat it

1619
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: because barbecue sauce is good aroma. And then you're hungry

1620
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: and you said there and you're like, oh wow, I

1621
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm so full. And also like ordinarily you'll have like

1622
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: a beer with barbecue and then you're filled full with

1623
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: that chips are pretty good. The barbecue chips. I think

1624
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: you think that's the same thing. Yeah, no, I don't think.

1625
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: I think it's an exception. And I want to say something.

1626
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: I am all about barbecues, the events, the events they

1627
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: bring people together, the people together, it's the it's the

1628
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: actual cuisine. It's not of barbe don't know he's never

1629
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: never had a burger, You've never done so many things.

1630
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: You never watched television? Do you ever watched TV? Andy

1631
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 1: barbecue at the same time, No, honey, because I'm famously

1632
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: very much of Charles Rogers, I don't watch television or

1633
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: clearly I'm on the record, I don't think so, honey. Barbecue. Wow,

1634
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: we're family. Probably we were. We probably are. And then

1635
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: Jordan and I related. That's why when he was He's like,

1636
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: why am I not in New York? Welcome be there.

1637
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: We leave it with different like we came in like

1638
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: you guys aren't dating. I'm just kidding. Um. That was

1639
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: that was a miss of thank you. I just felt

1640
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: I felt I needed to say it. Thank you. And

1641
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: now it's Bowen Yank's time because I've done this before.

1642
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: Tell me what you know when I if you have

1643
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: done it before I will stop tap me. This is

1644
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, and it's time starts now.

1645
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, me not getting a sucking.

1646
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: I voted stick in my absent and I've done this.

1647
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Stop the clock, Stop the clock. How many times did

1648
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: you vote it? This week? This week you did this?

1649
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: I got I got two ballots in the mail. It's

1650
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: it's that that that is a trap for fraud for

1651
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: the man by the way that has to stay in.

1652
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: That'll stay in. That's fine, that's fine. Um okay, I've

1653
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: got something. And this is the second attempt at this.

1654
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Time starts out. I don't

1655
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Sacks Fifth Avenue, bitch. These Gucci shoes

1656
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: that I just bought us my present to myself for

1657
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: my birthday were too expensive, but I made an exception.

1658
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: But honey, we it just opened up my eyes to

1659
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 1: this whole new world and thinking, shouldn't everyone be afforded

1660
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: the privilege of wearing a deconstructed uh Kenzo sweater? I

1661
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: mean god, I mean, like, who these are? These? These are?

1662
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: These are bullshit markers of status that I think, um

1663
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 1: should just be completely democratized. And for the price point

1664
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: to be so egregiously high is truly a travesty, you

1665
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: know what. I think Sacks is the next to fall

1666
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: and with with the Lord and Taylor's of the world,

1667
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: I think, or I think we're I will mourn the

1668
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: day that Sacks, you know, leaves all of our lives.

1669
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: But I mean we're ELSEI whatever. What I'm trying to

1670
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: say is these shoes that I a bought were too expensive.

1671
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: And I also do want to just tell everyone that

1672
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: I bought my Scucci shoes for for my birthday and um,

1673
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: you know what, like that's like me just like becoming

1674
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: more self actualized as a person as I move into

1675
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: my thirties. Um, and I hope everyone knows that I

1676
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: have it figured out. And that's one minute, you know,

1677
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: you bow and yang he she do love to spend

1678
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: a dollar or two on the clothing items. It's important.

1679
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: It's important if it makes you feel fat, absolutely, and

1680
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 1: like that's that's I'm capping it. I think that's I think,

1681
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: like I buy thousands of articles of clothing for cheap,

1682
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: and like I think it is nice to buy like

1683
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: a fewer things but expensive. I have discovered this too.

1684
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I feel better about the quality of the stuff I'm wearing.

1685
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather pay fifty dollars for one good shirt than

1686
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: each two advantage kick though, like I found my places

1687
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: in l A and I'm like, I can't stop. That's okay,

1688
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: But sometimes is also like quality. I feel like, if

1689
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: you don't keep buying clothes, it's like you can't like

1690
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: grow your personality is And that's why America's falling. It's

1691
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: a close thing. It's a close thing. All right, let's

1692
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: go in the same order we asked culture questions. Solder

1693
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 1: Charles First, this is impt and this is Charles Rodgers.

1694
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: Is I don't think so, honey, And this time starts now,

1695
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Eye contact psychotic. It is

1696
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 1: a rule by God. It doesn't make sense. It puts

1697
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: you in your head. It's the most natural and most

1698
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: easy thing that you're ever supposed to do, and somehow

1699
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: it has started wars. It is true. What I fucking

1700
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: really hate is during a comedy and someone like there's

1701
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: like on screen, something's funny happening, the whole audience last,

1702
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: and then somebody turns to you and tries to share

1703
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 1: a laugh. Evil psychotic behavior you're not going to enter

1704
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: your soul. And the second you say eye contact, all

1705
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: bets are off. Nobody can look each other in the eyes.

1706
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: It starts normal eye contact. We can't even relate. It's crazy.

1707
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 1: We should gauge your eyes out, we should replace them.

1708
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, honey, I contact. Let's see what else

1709
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 1: I hate about eye contact. I hate. I hate that

1710
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: when I can see how people think of me when

1711
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: they look at me, and I said, the micro microaggressions.

1712
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: Even looking at you right now, I can see, I see,

1713
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: I see a guardedness. I seem do the thing where

1714
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 1: when I am laughing at something in a large movement,

1715
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: will turn and do it. So scary to receive that.

1716
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: Usually that means you're my favorite person there. That's so sweet. Sweet.

1717
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: I didn't do that in my best friend, my best

1718
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: my best friend, Allison, I wrote in her yearbook. UM,

1719
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: I know you don't say cute things like this, but

1720
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that whenever we're watching

1721
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: something and I think some things funny, I always look

1722
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 1: at you first to see if you think it's funny too.

1723
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: That's really so. It's like a dependency. It's like a

1724
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 1: dependence coach, it's let's enjoy it together. I like, yeah,

1725
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I feel that. I feel that. That's I always grab

1726
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: you and look at you. Yeah, I've never had a

1727
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: laugh to myself. When we see something, you guys laugh together.

1728
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: That's nice. We always laugh together. I'm doing more like

1729
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: strange like people you don't know. It's more like friends friends. Yes, yes,

1730
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: but that happens, and it's wild. There's somebody I went

1731
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: in what you with who was like that horse like

1732
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: it was like, honestly, sometimes I use eye contact, like

1733
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: at bars and stuff like, I use eye contact as

1734
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: like a thing of like just so you know, I

1735
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: do want to suck you. One time, one time it

1736
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: really almost not it works a lot, but one time

1737
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: it worked with this guy I really liked where I

1738
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: was like, I get I grilled them eye contact and

1739
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: he was like we should hang out, and I'm like, yeah,

1740
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: we didn't. And sometimes it's a trap, like when both

1741
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: people just can't stop looking at each other's eye and

1742
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know how to even speak a word.

1743
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: But you you like, you use eye contact for evil

1744
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: and not good, Like we said we were going to fire.

1745
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: But he'll like he'll like the way he likes to

1746
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: his eye contact is like, remember when you were on

1747
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: the subway, you had this thing you were doing a

1748
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: lot where he would just pick when a star at me,

1749
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: just like just and not break eye contact. Yeah, like

1750
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 1: the caricature of me is evil. Though you should say, yeah,

1751
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: I like too many podcasts. We were like, I'm a

1752
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: socio bat. It's not good for bragging about how many podcasts.

1753
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Alright, Okay, I don't know if I

1754
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,759
Speaker 1: have a minute of material for this. You don't realize

1755
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: and Jordan's firstmans, I don't think so, honey, time starts now.

1756
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Portrait mode is it looks

1757
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: so fucking shitty. It looks like someone used a fucking

1758
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 1: eraser and then erase everything outside of you and erase

1759
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: the trees. There's no depth of field. It is a

1760
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: trick and it and even even on the new iPhones

1761
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 1: when there are two cameras, Sorry you have it, but

1762
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It looks fucking cheap. And if you use

1763
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: portrait at all, like you are showing the world that

1764
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 1: you're old and you think you're like, oh, blurry background,

1765
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: that's what young people do. I have to do that,

1766
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: and you know what, you know what. On top of that,

1767
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm fucking tired of death of field in general. I

1768
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: want a clean, sharp image, flat flat. I want everything

1769
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: insane to be seen. It's like we've done that. We

1770
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: we saw the birth of DSLRs and they have died.

1771
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: We don't need them anymore. We don't need you to

1772
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: adjust your focus. I want a flat image. I want

1773
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: to see the trees in the background, and I want

1774
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: to see your and your outfit in the foreground. And

1775
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: that's what young people should be doing. It. Believe in yourself.

1776
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: I think you know, I mean that was salient. I

1777
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: have to agree. I'm also I've taken a couple of

1778
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: portrait moons where trees are the trap. If it's against

1779
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: like a wall or you know, a brick wall or something,

1780
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: then the branches like sometimes dissolve and then they come

1781
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 1: back and turn into branches, and then they dissolve again,

1782
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: and it's like and then when they meet, like the

1783
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: outline of your face, it's just like there's a halo.

1784
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but front facing portrait mode, that's crazy. See

1785
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: treatment treatment. I don't think so, honey, Big war more

1786
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: more that Jok and booster started, Yeah, it's like you WTF. Yeah,

1787
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: what's the team like Baldwin Baldwin. Um. Yeah, it's really

1788
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: it's really all all out war. Before we wrap this up,

1789
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: I said I was going to do something, and I

1790
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: can't leave without doing it, which is I have to

1791
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: out Charles as being a listener of podcast the Ride

1792
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: of I Am. I Am, but I could never compete

1793
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: on the level that you can. But you don't know

1794
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: that because I have shame. I have at you don't

1795
01:36:53,840 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 1: have shame. But that's it's totally everyone. You know. Theme

1796
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: parks are inherently the gayest they are gay. There's that

1797
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 1: saying that, like Disneyland is more real than Vegas or

1798
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: whatever Disneyland tells you it's it's fake, but Vegas doesn't.

1799
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: Disneyland is the only real straight guys. I have just

1800
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: a great. Theme parks are so straight. They're people ruin it.

1801
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: People wanted little children and girls, especially to stay young

1802
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 1: forever and then fuck them, and so they created this

1803
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: world where they can fun. People have arrested development that

1804
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: it's the same as musical theater. They have a resident,

1805
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: they stay in a candy land, and other people are like,

1806
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: it's not so bad there. I hear what you're saying,

1807
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: but I feel that roller coaster parks are for the

1808
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Straits six, you know, but I feel there's nothing more

1809
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: disgusting than be like, let's just kids be kids, you

1810
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: know what. I want to see? Why I say no

1811
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 1: kids in the Magic Kingdom. It should be for me,

1812
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: That's true. It should be gays only. Adult games should

1813
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: be it should be out on the mountain every day.

1814
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: It should be circum it should be fucking And I

1815
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: heard that, like literally, I my friends that have been

1816
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: to the Gay Days that Disney World say that there's like,

1817
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: come on the goddamn Haunted mansion, like people are hooking

1818
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: up there. That's what if you Okay, just think about

1819
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: if they opened up a theme park in Palm Spring,

1820
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: Like the people would go crazy right there, you go. Yeah,

1821
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: it's it's truly. I I have no ill well, I

1822
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know. You would never go with

1823
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: I have, and like I it's the same part of

1824
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: you that's like America's stupid. Europe is good, you know

1825
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's me when when we go together,

1826
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: that's me. I am very much like you, but I do,

1827
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 1: But then I do come around because my theory can't

1828
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: be proven because you're you're pretty middle class, right, grew

1829
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: up middle class, so like I feel like growing up

1830
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: middle class like anything that is like a little bit gross.

1831
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm civilized, I'm get it. That's below me.

1832
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 1: Whereas like you grew up thinking you were rich so

1833
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: you can do poor people things. I grew up upone

1834
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,600
Speaker 1: was up for middle class. I grew up in the

1835
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: poorest part of America. So my theory, my theory doesn't

1836
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: doesn't hold well interesting, But I do think I think

1837
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: theme parks are gay, Like Disneyland is very gay. It's

1838
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: all about escapism. Escape that works. There is gay. Yeah,

1839
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of gay benefits. Yeah, there's

1840
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 1: there's no reason to escape. Everyone gets free prep at Disneyland.

1841
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 1: Shut up. I really bought it. I thought it very gullible.

1842
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: All up, I've been very gulliable. We have. We've both

1843
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: been like the whole LinkedIn thing. It was like, this

1844
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: is what I need that people think. Everyone's like, oh, Charles,

1845
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: I would have said that joke, like, yeah, they got

1846
01:39:53,280 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 1: free p on the way here. We also like coming

1847
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:06,560
Speaker 1: into this energy. We were both so tired, like you

1848
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: guys really did lift coming coming here. Charles like, I

1849
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: just don't know if I'm like gay enough. If you're like,

1850
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can't talk fast enough. You

1851
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: guys are gay enough. Recently someone was asking to I

1852
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: think we were upstateing and like maybe she was talking

1853
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: to mo or Dave or something, and she was talking

1854
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: about a gay person and the question of how gay

1855
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 1: they were arrived and she goes, I mean they're not

1856
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: gay like, which is like what we do, but they're gay.

1857
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: But she literally used the barometer for day. Yeah, what's

1858
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: the one. What's what of your catchphrases that I like

1859
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: so much? I don't like, I don't know word my heart. No,

1860
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, like sort and there's a new one.

1861
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: You feel this one? You feel this When someone says

1862
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: something like eating, it's like, are you serious? Yeah? Yeah,

1863
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: you feel you the letter you Yeah, capital F E E,

1864
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: capital T H I S, capital W A Y. It's

1865
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: all past. You have to actually say that when you do.

1866
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: If you feel this, I feel this way you feel

1867
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: you get to confirm it. Wait, I feel you feel

1868
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 1: this way? You made um? This is this was a

1869
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: fantastic capital cover. The whole spectrum. We're like, yeah, yeah, wait,

1870
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 1: what were you listening to these four handers? Baby? I

1871
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: love the four hands well, I love anytime there's four

1872
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 1: days in a room. Yeah, five five Emma our new

1873
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: permanent producer producer. That's the highest producer title. We should,

1874
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: we should, we should definitely break to the listeners. HPJ

1875
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: is moving to I won't be in the room for

1876
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: us to harass anymore. So now we have HPE producer Emma,

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