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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a
Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with
Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality
Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking
Speaker 2: and tweeting about.
Speaker 1: Hey, Rain drive Geez.
Speaker 2: For Brown too to talk about Vada Pump Rules Part
Speaker 2: two reunion. I got the Beautiful, the Amazing kid casey.
Speaker 3: Okay, First thing, I have to talk to you about
Speaker 3: your live show that you're coming to Orange County. I
Speaker 3: saw the clips of the last one. We're we're like
Speaker 3: singing and dan zinge. I've ever seen a show like it.
Speaker 3: So when you come to OC, I want the good
Speaker 3: people that are listening to this to make a special request.
Speaker 3: I think you and I should sing.
Speaker 4: A duet at your show. And the more over the
Speaker 4: top the better.
Speaker 3: Like maybe there's like some sort of like seventies or
Speaker 3: eighties like ridiculous duet, and we'll do that, by the way,
Speaker 3: we talked about it.
Speaker 4: When you come.
Speaker 3: They're on Pacific Coast Highway where the Oppenheim Group is
Speaker 3: where Selling the OOC is filmed. Within walking distance is
Speaker 3: also the Agency and the Altman Group, so we can
Speaker 3: hit all the real estate hotspots within walking distance. And
Speaker 3: I think Polly, Alex and Tyler should meet us out.
Speaker 2: Well. Look, honey, you had me at Alex and you
Speaker 2: had me at Polly and you had me at Tyler.
Speaker 1: First of all, Kate.
Speaker 2: Is my sister from another mister, because I am super
Speaker 2: obsessed with selling the OC. Yes, we'll talk about vat
Speaker 2: the porn rules later, but yeah, let's start if with
Speaker 2: selling the OC see really fast. Tyler is by far
Speaker 2: the most attractive man I have ever seen on Netflix.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 2: He agreed dropped it, Gordon. Alex is such good television.
Speaker 2: She's the fourth multiplier. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: And Polly, I mean.
Speaker 2: The haircut, the body, the outfits, the comedic timing her
Speaker 2: and Alex together, like that's the Paris and the Cold
Speaker 2: Simple Life spin off.
Speaker 1: I want to see, you know what it's like.
Speaker 3: Tyler is like Robert Redford and Alex Hall is like
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez. And that's why they didn't work out, because
Speaker 3: those are two totally different people, but they're both absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Yes. No, So have you met Tyler in person?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is he just as stunning as he is in Confessionals
Speaker 2: when the light hits his beautiful face?
Speaker 3: Stunning, Like he walks in and you're like a human
Speaker 3: being can be that attractive. But he's also really nice,
Speaker 3: just like a nice person. He's just a local person.
Speaker 3: Like he's like a simple guy. He was like a
Speaker 3: surfer and he works with his dad, and he's just
Speaker 3: a person that probably wakes up, go surfing, works and
Speaker 3: then surfs a little bit more. You know, he's not
Speaker 3: very flashy. Love that he's like down to earth. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's made for reality TV. But he's made
Speaker 3: for modeling.
Speaker 1: Honey, He's made for me.
Speaker 2: So listen, rain drops, rain drops, please leave Polly, Alex
Speaker 2: and Tyler. No. When I come to the OC, listen,
Speaker 2: I may want them to be on the building of
Speaker 2: my podcast, my live podcast. Me and Kay Casey are
Speaker 2: gonna sing a song together. We may do dancing queens by.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Also, we could pretend that you're looking for a second
Speaker 3: home and have Tyler give us a tour.
Speaker 4: That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 4: Let's do that.
Speaker 1: Promise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're done. But I'm gonna wear a dumb outfit
Speaker 3: just to be part of the course.
Speaker 1: Yes, but no rain drops.
Speaker 2: If you haven't watched his selling, the OC is so
Speaker 2: oh fucking good. It's so real, this drama, it's so real,
Speaker 2: it's so good.
Speaker 1: Please please, if you missed out on it. Watch it.
Speaker 1: Trust me.
Speaker 2: I'm giving you guys my seal of approval, my stamp
Speaker 2: of approval.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 4: Okay, one of the show you need to watch.
Speaker 3: And I know you said people have told you love
Speaker 3: undercover on Peacock And here's why. Because in this dating show,
Speaker 3: you've got American women who have been set up to
Speaker 3: believe that the show is about them not being able
Speaker 3: to find any American men. They've obviously like just gone
Speaker 3: through every man in America, and they're like, I need
Speaker 3: an international guy. So they introduce them to these five
Speaker 3: international men. But what they don't know is that all
Speaker 3: of these men are international soccer stars, but they're lying
Speaker 3: about what they do. So these women are like, he's
Speaker 3: kind of average, Like I don't know if I could
Speaker 3: go out with somebody in construction. But then they find
Speaker 3: out once they've been eliminated that the guy that they
Speaker 3: passed over on or whatever is actually like mega wealthy
Speaker 3: and successful and has like one point two million followers
Speaker 3: on Instagram.
Speaker 4: And why is that funny? Because some of the.
Speaker 3: Girls are like, Hi, I'm Sophia, I'm twenty seven, and
Speaker 3: I'm an Instagram influencer. And then they show their numbers
Speaker 3: and it's like fifty thousand. It's like, not even that much.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking for a guy that can elevate the
Speaker 3: kind of lifestyle that I deserve. And you're like, what,
Speaker 3: But all the guys get along great, and it's they're
Speaker 3: all so funny. So it's a good one.
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm watching that today.
Speaker 2: Okay, good because I need to watch something good because
Speaker 2: I do feel like we are at the end of
Speaker 2: the road for Van the Pump Rules just based on
Speaker 2: Part two reunion. Part three is next week. I'm putting
Speaker 2: Kate on the spy k will you recap part three
Speaker 2: with me?
Speaker 4: To end this with that question done? Totally? Okay, let
Speaker 4: me just say this too.
Speaker 3: I think we're at the end of the period of
Speaker 3: time where networks were just relying on old IP. They
Speaker 3: weren't making risky moves because they were trying to get,
Speaker 3: you know, get the money back from COVID. And I
Speaker 3: think that period of time is ending. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: like new, fresh stuff and that that's why I like
Speaker 3: Love Undercover. It's like a new concept and new people.
Speaker 3: And that's why The Valley's successful too, is because new
Speaker 3: people like, we're so aren't you sick of vander Pump
Speaker 3: Rules people?
Speaker 2: Well, honey, that's what we have to talk about, because look,
Speaker 2: I found myself and I'm being very honest.
Speaker 1: I knew that I.
Speaker 2: Would be talking to Kate about this, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to of course wrap out down the Pump Rules because
Speaker 2: in my opinion, this show was done. Put a fork
Speaker 2: in her. She's cooked, baby, because she's done. For all
Speaker 2: I am concerned. So I felt like it was a
Speaker 2: job watching this episode Part two Reunion of Pump Rules,
Speaker 2: and I Kay, I was like, I just don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck. I just I just didn't care. I didn't
Speaker 2: care what was going on. And the biggest thing for
Speaker 2: me was like even seeing La La versus Katie, it
Speaker 2: was sort of like, okay, Katie was talking shit about
Speaker 2: Arianna and I don't know, and then Arianna sit there
Speaker 2: she didn't care, So I was like, well, why do
Speaker 2: I care? And for me, it was like everybody was
Speaker 2: checked out except La La. I think Laala was like
Speaker 2: I am trying to keep this train moving. And Laala
Speaker 2: gave a great performance. You know, she literally was Charlie's
Speaker 2: theron in yeah yeah, you know, like she gave her
Speaker 2: Best Acting performance that won an Oscar.
Speaker 3: Best Performance in a Reunion, Part two of a Show
Speaker 3: That's about to Die. Okay, we I mentioned it to
Speaker 3: you and you said you had just watched it too.
Speaker 4: There's so many parallels to this.
Speaker 3: In the twenty twelve thirty for thirty which is now
Speaker 3: on Netflix.
Speaker 4: It's called Broke.
Speaker 3: It's directed by Billy Corbyn, and it's about how all
Speaker 3: these professional athletes go bankrupt. And I was always watching
Speaker 3: it thinking, Arianna is the professional athlete that's already set
Speaker 3: up with a full team. She's got it all set up,
Speaker 3: so she's got some backup projects, and that's why she's
Speaker 3: such a great communicator and calm throughout the reunion. She's
Speaker 3: already like set up that boundary, like okay, because she's
Speaker 3: got a full team ready for her. But Lala is
Speaker 3: like the athlete who is about to blow out her
Speaker 3: knee and has already spent most of her money and
Speaker 3: may may or may not have a gambling problem, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it's like she's like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, how am I going to make up all
Speaker 3: this money that I just spent. It's like it just
Speaker 3: seemed like so much like that, and how like professional
Speaker 3: athletes and reality stars operate are so similar because like
Speaker 3: in the moment, they think it's gonna last forever. Like
Speaker 3: some of the prof like the football players and NBA players,
Speaker 3: they get out of college or maybe they're recruited right
Speaker 3: from high school and they're given a ton of money
Speaker 3: and they think all the opportunities are going to last forever.
Speaker 3: And reality stars are like that too, like they hit.
Speaker 3: They're on a big hit. I mean, like this show
Speaker 3: is going to be forever, and then I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: asked to be on all these other shows. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be a television star and then I'm gonna move into movies
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna become a business mogul like Jennifer
Speaker 3: Lopez or whomever. And it's just not reality and you
Speaker 3: need somebody who is really looking out for your best
Speaker 3: interest to go. You gotta have a backup plan.
Speaker 4: So that's why.
Speaker 3: Arianna is successful is because I think she made a
Speaker 3: decision before she probably even went into filming this season,
Speaker 3: like okay, I need a backup plan, And the others
Speaker 3: were like, now that this is such a big hit
Speaker 3: because everyone's writing about it, we've just secured five more seasons.
Speaker 3: And that's the crackup is in the episode three, which
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see soon, you know, within
Speaker 3: a week, is that they waited to show them the
Speaker 3: last part, which really does reveal to them unless they're Dinglings,
Speaker 3: then it is the end of the road and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh shit.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I could not agree more.
Speaker 2: First of all, give it up a Kksey guys round
Speaker 2: of applause because you comparing this caz of pump rolls
Speaker 2: to thirty for thirty Broke edition.
Speaker 3: Remember remember I said, Derek Cheat the captain, like you
Speaker 3: should have retired Kandy Burriws.
Speaker 1: Yes, guess what. Guess what? She left the show a
Speaker 1: year after you said that. Kay Casey on the Case
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out Kate, like, why am
Speaker 2: I so disconnected watching this for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt nothing.
Speaker 2: You hit the knail on the head as you sort
Speaker 2: of dissected.
Speaker 1: Like Carlos, what was going on? Is this Arianna already
Speaker 1: secured her position.
Speaker 2: She has all of these other endorsements, she has all
Speaker 2: these other opportunities, and she doesn't feel the need to
Speaker 2: save the show. And what we saw in the preview
Speaker 2: to next week's episode. The finale of the show was
Speaker 2: when she cried to Santa Vala said, I just.
Speaker 1: Want you gone.
Speaker 2: What that means like she doesn't want to do the
Speaker 2: show anymore. She's like, I'm over it because they're not
Speaker 2: gonna fire Sandoval because he's great television and they don't
Speaker 2: want it to appear that where we fire the guy
Speaker 2: because he no longer is with this woman. And she
Speaker 2: knows that I can't continue on the show anymore if
Speaker 2: he's still there. So she is checked out, and you're right,
Speaker 2: and La LA's like, way, bitches, I didn't make that
Speaker 2: much money off of the scinded darl t shirts and
Speaker 2: sweatshirts and pamphlets and bumper stickers. So I have a
Speaker 2: new lease on life with my new lease in the valley,
Speaker 2: and I have shit to pay for it with my
Speaker 2: new baby.
Speaker 3: You baby, and I think like they have these new
Speaker 3: homes and then like also in the part and broke,
Speaker 3: remember the one. I think it was Evander Hollerfield Hollafield.
Speaker 4: It was a Vander who said it.
Speaker 3: One of them said, he said, at one point I
Speaker 3: was responsible for twenty five to fifty people, and now
Speaker 3: like they have too many people in their entourage. They're
Speaker 3: still like pain for relatives, like they should do a
Speaker 3: like a broke version for reality television. Yeah, and the
Speaker 3: aftermath of a TV opportunity when it all starts to
Speaker 3: slip away.
Speaker 2: When Brown said to Uk, I remember texting you, I
Speaker 2: had chills when she said, I don't know who I
Speaker 2: am without the cameras in my life. You were like
Speaker 2: that the best therapists that I've ever worked with.
Speaker 1: When you were like, don't say that, what do.
Speaker 4: You I will not allow you to say that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to this caz so we saw
Speaker 2: that Arianna Dick give a shit about Katie, you know,
Speaker 2: talking about about her behind her back. Then we see
Speaker 2: La La versus Arianna where La Lah mentioned that, you know,
Speaker 2: she had an issue in the past with people being
Speaker 2: friends with her ex. So they were like, were you're
Speaker 2: contradicting herself because you were friends still with Sandoval. She
Speaker 2: said it was different because people her ex was trying
Speaker 2: to be friend, like Tom Schwartz for example, and she
Speaker 2: had a baby with and is different.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's really what the issue is. I
Speaker 3: think it's more layered than that. I think it's actually
Speaker 3: she's frustrated because she doesn't feel like people have accepted
Speaker 3: the new version of her. The Bravo audience still is
Speaker 3: angry about how how she acted and the things she
Speaker 3: did in the first couple of seasons. Bravo audience is,
Speaker 3: as you know, very observant. It's hard for them to
Speaker 3: forgive people. And so the audience is a lot of
Speaker 3: women who are between the ages of like twenty five
Speaker 3: to maybe like fifty five sixty, and so I think
Speaker 3: that a lot of them can't get past the fact
Speaker 3: that Lala in the beginning of the show would talk
Speaker 3: about like well like body seaming the other women and saying, well,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not my fault you don't have good
Speaker 3: enough tits to ride in a private jet. I just
Speaker 3: think that the female audience ever would be able to
Speaker 3: forgive that move past that. And I think Laala is
Speaker 3: frustrated because she's like, but I've proven myself well over
Speaker 3: and over again to have grown up from that experience.
Speaker 3: I was wrong by this man. I'm a mother now
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a mother again. But I just
Speaker 3: think the audience will never get past it. And that's
Speaker 3: what I think she's frustrated when she's like, it's not
Speaker 3: the same. It's not so much about the like the
Speaker 3: boundaries and you can be friends. It's I think it's
Speaker 3: more like a fourth wall issue, like why don't you
Speaker 3: accept the person that I've grown into? And the audience
Speaker 3: is like, girl, we will never forget that you were
Speaker 3: with a married man, you know. I think that's the
Speaker 3: way that a lot of the viewers feel. They're just
Speaker 3: not very forgiving of it.
Speaker 2: Listen, the audience is your playback real yep, right, yep.
Speaker 2: The audience will remind you of every single thing you've
Speaker 2: ever done.
Speaker 1: And listen. That's not great because as.
Speaker 2: Humans, we do evolve and we absolutely and I think
Speaker 2: you have to give us grace to do that. But
Speaker 2: one thing I will say when it comes to reality
Speaker 2: stars is the.
Speaker 1: Fact that they're not given a lot of grace.
Speaker 4: No, totally, and.
Speaker 2: That's not the detriment of their future or even place
Speaker 2: on the show. And I think we're seeing that with
Speaker 2: this cast in the sense of listen, rightfully, so, they're older.
Speaker 2: When you're when you're older in California, especially in LA
Speaker 2: you do move to the valley or you move to
Speaker 2: the OC like you're you're you move to the much
Speaker 2: more suburban lifestyle because you're not partying until five o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning when you have children. No, So I
Speaker 2: think La la frustration does come from the fact that
Speaker 2: she possibly is a changed woman, but the audience isn't.
Speaker 4: Going to It's like arrested development.
Speaker 3: You know, they're like, well, no, I will never not
Speaker 3: see you as that person who was shaming them for
Speaker 3: their summer bodies. Remember, the audience is mostly female, and
Speaker 3: they probably have summer bodies because they've had children and
Speaker 3: they're getting older, and it's just interesting they will not
Speaker 3: And it's interesting too because here she's a mother now
Speaker 3: and she's made this decision to have another child, and
Speaker 3: it is kind of an interesting, empowering story to do
Speaker 3: that on your own. But somehow it's still interesting. Like,
Speaker 3: I think she's frustrated that they're not more interested in
Speaker 3: that journey that she's having. But I really do think
Speaker 3: it's because they can't get past her origin story.
Speaker 2: Do you think if she was on another show with
Speaker 2: a different title, possibly.
Speaker 3: If she was on Real Housewives at Beverly Hills and
Speaker 3: she had begun the show as like the mistress and
Speaker 3: then evolved into like a relationship that the mistress into
Speaker 3: a marriage or marriage adjacent with a child, and then
Speaker 3: decided I want to have a baby on my own.
Speaker 3: I think it would have been much better received. But
Speaker 3: Vanner Pump Rules is a show that's based on people
Speaker 3: who make poor life decisions. So she's acting the audience
Speaker 3: to embrace her like a real housewife story on a
Speaker 3: show that's not really set up to have those expectations.
Speaker 4: Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I never looked at it that way.
Speaker 2: I never look You're on a show where the conceit
Speaker 2: of the show was we are young, twenty something, hopeful
Speaker 2: of making it in the industry.
Speaker 4: We fuck each other, we go on benders in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Yeah we we we do whatever.
Speaker 2: And we're wild, young and free, and that's what the
Speaker 2: audience bomp into. So as you're evolving into a mother
Speaker 2: of now too, the audience isn't receiving that because the
Speaker 2: conceit of the show isn't that. However, if you were
Speaker 2: on Real Housewives and you are right, there's more grace.
Speaker 2: There's like, you know, the wild young housewife. Let's like
Speaker 2: Porsche for example, office being a step for wife. Then
Speaker 2: she was young while single woman who called herself bot Landia,
Speaker 2: you know, and they sort of embraced them.
Speaker 3: And she comes back and she's gotten a divorce from
Speaker 3: this guy who's like mega rich, they'll still embrace her
Speaker 3: because the structure of the show is set up that
Speaker 3: way to watch a woman in the ebbs and flows,
Speaker 3: because you usually see them over a period of time
Speaker 3: where you meet their children and their mother and all
Speaker 3: these things. And the only access we really had to
Speaker 3: Lala in the beginning was to like, well, first of all,
Speaker 3: she was super secretive about her relationship with Randall, and
Speaker 3: then we kind of met Randall, but we're not really
Speaker 3: seeing Lala's full life in the way you do as
Speaker 3: a real housewife. And I just really think too that
Speaker 3: I think the audience never really accepted that she was
Speaker 3: part of the friend group. She always felt like a
Speaker 3: little bit of an outsider. Like I know that myself.
Speaker 3: I'm never feeling like that's a real friendship that she
Speaker 3: had between Ariana or with Arianna or with Katie or
Speaker 3: maybe was Sheena a bit because their their kids are friends,
Speaker 3: and that definitely does bond you with your children are friends.
Speaker 3: But I always felt like she was higher because she
Speaker 3: was so attractive and she was at the restaurant, but
Speaker 3: it was kind of like trying to make it all
Speaker 3: kind of makes sense, and I just shews felt like
Speaker 3: an outsider, like I never bought that she would ever
Speaker 3: spend time with Tom sand of all Tom Schwartz independently
Speaker 3: off the show.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think she was Listen, she was the quintessential beautiful blonde, yeah,
Speaker 2: in her early twenties like that, like the hot bombshell,
Speaker 2: right and listen, I don't think this is Shaye. I
Speaker 2: actually love la La a lot. I think Laala was
Speaker 2: that girl who knew how high she was, and I
Speaker 2: think she probably thought she was the star of the
Speaker 2: show for all of the things she had going for herself.
Speaker 3: I think she also is frustrated because she was like
Speaker 3: I brought it, Yeah, you know, like you guys were
Speaker 3: resting on your laurels and I'm like like forcing conversations
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 4: I feel like Laala was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we all can kind of relate
Speaker 3: to this as some aspect of her life. She was
Speaker 3: like a real housewife of Beverly Hills before her time, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They had aqual. Oh my god, this is the show
Speaker 3: we're selling.
Speaker 1: This is it?
Speaker 4: Holy shit?
Speaker 3: I just came up with, Oh my gosh, it was
Speaker 3: she the original we're creating. The prequel to Real House
Speaker 3: was The Beverly Hills, like the women who are between
Speaker 3: twenty seven and thirty eight. Because the Beverly Hills show
Speaker 3: is really, I think, in its stride when you have
Speaker 3: women in their fifties or forties and maybe early fifties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care, and that's why I love them too.
Speaker 3: But like a show that's more about the twenty eight
Speaker 3: to thirty eight and that's where Lalla exists.
Speaker 4: That's her sweet spot.
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry my mind went towards the prequel because I
Speaker 2: want to see, like the young de.
Speaker 4: Read I do too.
Speaker 1: Who is show? Yes, Laala is the young Dereat.
Speaker 4: To me, No, she's not.
Speaker 3: No, the young Derea the prequel story of Deree She
Speaker 3: lived in New York City because my friend was her trainer.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, Like who was Dereit when she was in
Speaker 3: New York City trying to like work her way in
Speaker 3: the fashion industry. If I were at networking executive at Bravo,
Speaker 3: and Lord knows I would wish I was.
Speaker 4: That's the show I want to watch.
Speaker 3: Is the prequel to the Real Housewives of New York
Speaker 3: and Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4: That's what I would do to create to maintain this momentum.
Speaker 4: That's what I would do.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Is there a future for a La La
Speaker 1: on Bravo.
Speaker 4: If they create a show like that? She would be
Speaker 4: great on that.
Speaker 3: But I feel like she needs to maybe take a
Speaker 3: minute away, although that's not what she really wants to do.
Speaker 3: But I think she's going to be so much more
Speaker 3: interesting when her kids are like between twelve and sixteen.
Speaker 3: What is her story when those children are twelve to sixteen?
Speaker 3: Who is she dating, who is she friends with? What
Speaker 3: is she doing for a living? How what's her relationship
Speaker 3: with the relatives that we're living with her right now?
Speaker 4: Like do they still live with her?
Speaker 3: Does she feel like she was taking a advantage of
Speaker 3: by people during this period of time? Like I feel
Speaker 3: like she's going to live Her life is going to
Speaker 3: be very well lived, but all the faces of it
Speaker 3: are really interesting. I just think I I knew who
Speaker 3: she is right now, but it'll be even more interesting
Speaker 3: if she kind of dips out for a minute and
Speaker 3: then re emerges.
Speaker 4: Imagine her parenting tweens and teenage girls. No, that would
Speaker 4: be so funny.
Speaker 3: She's going to be so funny as a mom of
Speaker 3: tweens and teenagers.
Speaker 2: But that means her not being on the air for
Speaker 2: like ten years.
Speaker 3: She's no, no, no, no, she said no, she's in her
Speaker 3: early Oh yeah, you're right, because her kids are really
Speaker 3: but you know what, the I'm okay with that, like,
Speaker 3: okay going off there. I'm just saying I think that
Speaker 3: story is going to be really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I actually agree with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I want to see the evolution of La La and listen,
Speaker 2: could she start on a show called La LA's Land?
Speaker 1: Kay, Casey, I don't.
Speaker 3: Think anybody on Banner Pump Rules right now needs to
Speaker 3: spin off. I don't think enough. I don't think there's
Speaker 3: enough story there. And they're too soon after the show.
Speaker 3: It's hard for them to like see that as they're
Speaker 3: a therapist from afar because they're they're so caught up
Speaker 3: in like I have to keep it going because because
Speaker 3: once I'm off there, I'm more irrelevant. But I'm telling
Speaker 3: you their lives are going to be so much more
Speaker 3: interesting if they take a minute.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know, yes, now, well should have taken
Speaker 2: a minute, but it took a long time. Was the
Speaker 2: revelation of how Joe really felt when she learned that
Speaker 2: Shorts was pretty much putting her in the friends zone
Speaker 2: when she thought they were.
Speaker 3: You know what that's about, sorry, that's about Joe having
Speaker 3: little taste of reality TV. She's like a hairdresser and
Speaker 3: she's been hanging out with these people on the sidelines
Speaker 3: and she's like, I want to be on the TV
Speaker 3: show so bad. And that's true because she's on social
Speaker 3: media all the time during the Instagram Lives, like really
Speaker 3: excited to answer people's questions. She doesn't give a shit
Speaker 3: about Schwartz. She cares about being on a TV show.
Speaker 1: Are you wait? I didn't know this? What does that get?
Speaker 1: So Joe is on ig lives.
Speaker 3: Like almost every other day answering people's question yes, yes,
Speaker 3: don't get like, don't think this is anything other than that.
Speaker 3: Like Shorts is like, you're annoyance, stop talking about me.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: He actually has said that, stop Like I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: He's like, you're not on our show Goodbye.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was like, oh my god, she's crying.
Speaker 3: No, she's crying. She wants me on the show. Wait
Speaker 3: until she finds out the show's ending. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I want video of that. That's like finding like that's
Speaker 3: like getting a job at a company and thinking that
Speaker 3: you're going to work your way up and then you
Speaker 3: find out the company went bankrupt and you're like, oh shit.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So I'm a fool because when she was crying saying
Speaker 2: the whole thing about she was kept a secret for
Speaker 2: a year and Tom Schartz, but.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she was because he was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: The evolution media is like this girl is not interesting, Like,
Speaker 3: don't bring her in fold. I don't know, like I
Speaker 3: know she's like really loves being a reality TV on
Speaker 3: a reality show.
Speaker 2: If y'all can see my face right now, I am
Speaker 2: in shock. I'm like the Homer Simpson meme where he's like,
Speaker 2: folly back to the bushes because I feel like such
Speaker 2: a fool because I was falling for the tears when
Speaker 2: she was like, can you gotta to stop it?
Speaker 1: And Tom Schwartz was like, I got this new girl.
Speaker 1: So Sophia, who's like, very hot, but that's not why
Speaker 1: she's hot. She's hot cause she's sweet.
Speaker 3: Like that's why Katie was like, what, I'm not apologizing
Speaker 3: to you, Like you're so irrelevant, get off this, And
Speaker 3: that's why everyone was like why are you here? And
Speaker 3: then Ali is interesting to me because I don't see
Speaker 3: the chemistry between she and James, like i'd be interested
Speaker 3: once the show goes off if they stay together.
Speaker 4: I feel empathy for James.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like he's really investing in someone
Speaker 3: who is not totally on the same page.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually agree with you.
Speaker 2: I don't think she's into him the way he's into.
Speaker 3: Her, and she kind of like makes fun of him,
Speaker 3: like the one scene it was like a couple episodes
Speaker 3: where she said he picks out all my outfits, like
Speaker 3: she's mocking him a little bit, Like I don't know
Speaker 3: why he's so into me. I'm never gonna get married.
Speaker 3: I don't even like him. I'm like, you moved into
Speaker 3: his house in Burbank, Like what do you what? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's hard to have empathy for the vander Pump people,
Speaker 3: but I have empathy for James because I feel like
Speaker 3: he's being a little bit being boozled.
Speaker 2: Well, is that the reason why his anger is so
Speaker 2: directed at Sandaval because it's a displaced anger because of
Speaker 2: what's going on at home, Because I'm not unders.
Speaker 3: Thinking, like displaced anger is always having to do with
Speaker 3: fourth wall stuff like why are you getting more opportunities?
Speaker 3: You're getting more attention? How many times have you been
Speaker 3: on Watch What Happens Live? Like that's all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. I'm like, I, by the way, I've displaced
Speaker 3: anger too. I've never been on Watch What Happens Live?
Speaker 1: Get you on a fire Listen.
Speaker 2: I'm screaming because what the audience doesn't know is this
Speaker 2: the reality starts off Bravo. They count how many times
Speaker 2: what your castmates were featured on Watch What Appens Live?
Speaker 1: If it's more than that they actually count, is they
Speaker 1: keep a tally?
Speaker 2: So the fact that cakes like Jesus saying, why does
Speaker 2: sat the Ball get la times feature?
Speaker 1: Why is it live?
Speaker 3: But you know what the jokes on everybody because you know,
Speaker 3: of all those cast members, I think James is the
Speaker 3: smartest one because he actually is like going to probably
Speaker 3: make so much money as a DJ, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: worried about him financially.
Speaker 4: I think he's actually gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: But you know what's missing, though, Kate, what's that they want?
Speaker 2: The cameras, Holly d have potential to really be what
Speaker 2: you're saying like is humor is like.
Speaker 3: I think jas he's making a lot of money though
Speaker 3: poly d' is making a lot of.
Speaker 1: Money, So James has the potential.
Speaker 4: First, I'm not worried about him.
Speaker 1: Who are you worried about?
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about James. I'm not worried about Arianna.
Speaker 3: I'm worried about everybody else. Why because I think they're
Speaker 3: they're going to be panicked about, like where do I
Speaker 3: go from here? It's really hard, Like they put their
Speaker 3: lives totally into this show for so long, and you
Speaker 3: got to have a backup plan and I don't know
Speaker 3: what do you? What are you going to do? You
Speaker 3: get a job at a bank, you're an host? Tate
Speaker 3: like wait tables been working in an amusement.
Speaker 1: Park and they've done that.
Speaker 4: I mean, Sienah does like a lot of like YouTube stuff.
Speaker 3: But I do think that there's a panic because I
Speaker 3: will not say it is, but I heard a story
Speaker 3: a producer tell me about a Bravo star and how
Speaker 3: they are only on the show that they're on because
Speaker 3: they need to do Amazon Lives because they make so
Speaker 3: much money doing it, and as soon as they're off
Speaker 3: the show, they're not gonna make much money on it
Speaker 3: because the Amazon Lives are where they drop information like
Speaker 3: inside info. The fact that Bravo is not picking up
Speaker 3: on this and like putting a kabash is unteresting to me.
Speaker 1: Well you just rebuilding now, Kate, so not being.
Speaker 3: I know, well maybe not and they don't care about me.
Speaker 3: But one thing I heard once heard was like Kanye
Speaker 3: would go on the Kardashians to sell the merchandise because
Speaker 3: that's how he could move it. Because the truth is
Speaker 3: when you go on a show, it puts you top
Speaker 3: of mind. Then people going to your like socials. He
Speaker 3: needed to go on the Kardashians to sell all the
Speaker 3: shoes and all of that stuff. So a lot of
Speaker 3: I think a lot are doing the show because they
Speaker 3: know that they're relying on the show for many reasons,
Speaker 3: which include their own egos but also the success of
Speaker 3: the ancillary businesses are relying on them being on the show.
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