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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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Speaker 1: Hey, Rain drive Geez.

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Speaker 2: For Brown too to talk about Vada Pump Rules Part

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Speaker 2: two reunion. I got the Beautiful, the Amazing kid casey.

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Speaker 3: Okay, First thing, I have to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: your live show that you're coming to Orange County. I

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Speaker 3: saw the clips of the last one. We're we're like

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Speaker 3: singing and dan zinge. I've ever seen a show like it.

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Speaker 3: So when you come to OC, I want the good

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Speaker 3: people that are listening to this to make a special request.

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Speaker 3: I think you and I should sing.

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Speaker 4: A duet at your show. And the more over the

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Speaker 4: top the better.

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Speaker 3: Like maybe there's like some sort of like seventies or

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Speaker 3: eighties like ridiculous duet, and we'll do that, by the way,

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Speaker 3: we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: When you come.

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Speaker 3: They're on Pacific Coast Highway where the Oppenheim Group is

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Speaker 3: where Selling the OOC is filmed. Within walking distance is

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Speaker 3: also the Agency and the Altman Group, so we can

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Speaker 3: hit all the real estate hotspots within walking distance. And

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Speaker 3: I think Polly, Alex and Tyler should meet us out.

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Speaker 2: Well. Look, honey, you had me at Alex and you

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Speaker 2: had me at Polly and you had me at Tyler.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Kate.

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Speaker 2: Is my sister from another mister, because I am super

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Speaker 2: obsessed with selling the OC. Yes, we'll talk about vat

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Speaker 2: the porn rules later, but yeah, let's start if with

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Speaker 2: selling the OC see really fast. Tyler is by far

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Speaker 2: the most attractive man I have ever seen on Netflix.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 2: He agreed dropped it, Gordon. Alex is such good television.

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Speaker 2: She's the fourth multiplier. I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 1: And Polly, I mean.

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Speaker 2: The haircut, the body, the outfits, the comedic timing her

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Speaker 1: I want to see, you know what it's like.

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Speaker 3: Tyler is like Robert Redford and Alex Hall is like

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Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez. And that's why they didn't work out, because

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Speaker 3: those are two totally different people, but they're both absolutely gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: Yes. No, So have you met Tyler in person?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Is he just as stunning as he is in Confessionals

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Speaker 3: Stunning, Like he walks in and you're like a human

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Speaker 3: Like he's like a simple guy. He was like a

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Speaker 3: surfer and he works with his dad, and he's just

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Speaker 3: very flashy. Love that he's like down to earth. I

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Speaker 1: Honey, He's made for me.

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Speaker 2: So listen, rain drops, rain drops, please leave Polly, Alex

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Speaker 2: and Tyler. No. When I come to the OC, listen,

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Speaker 2: my podcast, my live podcast. Me and Kay Casey are

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Speaker 2: gonna sing a song together. We may do dancing queens by.

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Speaker 3: Also, we could pretend that you're looking for a second

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Speaker 4: That's what we'll do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's do that.

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Speaker 1: Promise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're done. But I'm gonna wear a dumb outfit

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Speaker 3: just to be part of the course.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but no rain drops.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't watched his selling, the OC is so

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Speaker 2: oh fucking good. It's so real, this drama, it's so real,

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Speaker 2: it's so good.

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Speaker 1: Please please, if you missed out on it. Watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's really good.

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Speaker 4: Okay, one of the show you need to watch.

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Speaker 3: And I know you said people have told you love

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Speaker 3: undercover on Peacock And here's why. Because in this dating show,

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Speaker 3: you've got American women who have been set up to

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Speaker 3: Girls are like, Hi, I'm Sophia, I'm twenty seven, and

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Speaker 3: But all the guys get along great, and it's they're

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Speaker 2: Part two reunion. Part three is next week. I'm putting

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Speaker 4: To end this with that question done? Totally? Okay, let

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Speaker 3: I think we're at the end of the period of

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Speaker 3: Love Undercover. It's like a new concept and new people.

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Speaker 3: And that's why The Valley's successful too, is because new

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Speaker 2: Well, honey, that's what we have to talk about, because look,

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Speaker 2: Would be talking to Kate about this, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: to of course wrap out down the Pump Rules because

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, this show was done. Put a fork

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Speaker 2: I am concerned. So I felt like it was a

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Speaker 2: job watching this episode Part two Reunion of Pump Rules,

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Speaker 3: Best Performance in a Reunion, Part two of a Show

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Speaker 3: That's about to Die. Okay, we I mentioned it to

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Speaker 3: It's directed by Billy Corbyn, and it's about how all

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Speaker 3: Arianna is successful is because I think she made a

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Speaker 3: because everyone's writing about it, we've just secured five more seasons.

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Speaker 3: And that's the crackup is in the episode three, which

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, I could not agree more.

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Speaker 2: First of all, give it up a Kksey guys round

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Speaker 3: I was wrong by this man. I'm a mother now

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Speaker 2: Listen, the audience is your playback real yep, right, yep.

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Speaker 4: No, totally, and.

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Speaker 2: That's not the detriment of their future or even place

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Speaker 4: Going to It's like arrested development.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're like, well, no, I will never not

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting too because here she's a mother now

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Speaker 3: it is kind of an interesting, empowering story to do

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Speaker 2: Do you think if she was on another show with

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Speaker 3: If she was on Real Housewives at Beverly Hills and

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Speaker 3: Vanner Pump Rules is a show that's based on people

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I never looked at it that way.

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Speaker 2: I never look You're on a show where the conceit

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Speaker 4: We fuck each other, we go on benders in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we we we do whatever.

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Speaker 2: And we're wild, young and free, and that's what the

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Speaker 3: But I always felt like she was higher because she

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think she was Listen, she was the quintessential beautiful blonde, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think she also is frustrated because she was like

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Speaker 3: I brought it, Yeah, you know, like you guys were

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Speaker 4: I feel like Laala was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we all can kind of relate

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: They had aqual. Oh my god, this is the show

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Speaker 1: This is it?

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Speaker 4: Holy shit?

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Speaker 3: I just came up with, Oh my gosh, it was

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Speaker 3: she the original we're creating. The prequel to Real House

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care, and that's why I love them too.

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Speaker 3: But like a show that's more about the twenty eight

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Speaker 4: That's her sweet spot.

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Speaker 1: I listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry my mind went towards the prequel because I

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Speaker 4: Read I do too.

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Speaker 1: Who is show? Yes, Laala is the young Dereat.

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Speaker 4: To me, No, she's not.

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Speaker 3: No, the young Derea the prequel story of Deree She

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Speaker 3: New York City trying to like work her way in

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Speaker 3: the fashion industry. If I were at networking executive at Bravo,

444
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Speaker 3: and Lord knows I would wish I was.

445
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Speaker 4: That's the show I want to watch.

446
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: Is the prequel to the Real Housewives of New York

447
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Speaker 3: and Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 4: That's what I would do to create to maintain this momentum.

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Speaker 4: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Is there a future for a La La

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Speaker 1: on Bravo.

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Speaker 4: If they create a show like that? She would be

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Speaker 4: great on that.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like she needs to maybe take a

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Speaker 3: minute away, although that's not what she really wants to do.

456
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Speaker 3: But I think she's going to be so much more

457
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Speaker 3: interesting when her kids are like between twelve and sixteen.

458
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Speaker 3: What is her story when those children are twelve to sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Who is she dating, who is she friends with? What

460
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Speaker 3: is she doing for a living? How what's her relationship

461
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Speaker 3: with the relatives that we're living with her right now?

462
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Speaker 4: Like do they still live with her?

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Speaker 3: Does she feel like she was taking a advantage of

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Speaker 3: by people during this period of time? Like I feel

465
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Speaker 3: like she's going to live Her life is going to

466
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Speaker 3: be very well lived, but all the faces of it

467
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Speaker 3: are really interesting. I just think I I knew who

468
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Speaker 3: she is right now, but it'll be even more interesting

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Speaker 3: if she kind of dips out for a minute and

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Speaker 3: then re emerges.

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Speaker 4: Imagine her parenting tweens and teenage girls. No, that would

472
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Speaker 4: be so funny.

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Speaker 3: She's going to be so funny as a mom of

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Speaker 3: tweens and teenagers.

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Speaker 2: But that means her not being on the air for

476
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Speaker 2: like ten years.

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Speaker 3: She's no, no, no, no, she said no, she's in her

478
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Speaker 3: early Oh yeah, you're right, because her kids are really

479
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Speaker 3: but you know what, the I'm okay with that, like,

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Speaker 3: okay going off there. I'm just saying I think that

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Speaker 3: story is going to be really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no, I actually agree with you. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I want to see the evolution of La La and listen,

484
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Speaker 2: could she start on a show called La LA's Land?

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Speaker 1: Kay, Casey, I don't.

486
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Speaker 3: Think anybody on Banner Pump Rules right now needs to

487
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Speaker 3: spin off. I don't think enough. I don't think there's

488
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Speaker 3: enough story there. And they're too soon after the show.

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Speaker 3: It's hard for them to like see that as they're

490
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Speaker 3: a therapist from afar because they're they're so caught up

491
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Speaker 3: in like I have to keep it going because because

492
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Speaker 3: once I'm off there, I'm more irrelevant. But I'm telling

493
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Speaker 3: you their lives are going to be so much more

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Speaker 3: interesting if they take a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know, yes, now, well should have taken

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Speaker 2: a minute, but it took a long time. Was the

497
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Speaker 2: revelation of how Joe really felt when she learned that

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Speaker 2: Shorts was pretty much putting her in the friends zone

499
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Speaker 2: when she thought they were.

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Speaker 3: You know what that's about, sorry, that's about Joe having

501
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 3: little taste of reality TV. She's like a hairdresser and

502
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Speaker 3: she's been hanging out with these people on the sidelines

503
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Speaker 3: and she's like, I want to be on the TV

504
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: show so bad. And that's true because she's on social

505
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Speaker 3: media all the time during the Instagram Lives, like really

506
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Speaker 3: excited to answer people's questions. She doesn't give a shit

507
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Speaker 3: about Schwartz. She cares about being on a TV show.

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Speaker 1: Are you wait? I didn't know this? What does that get?

509
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Speaker 1: So Joe is on ig lives.

510
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Speaker 3: Like almost every other day answering people's question yes, yes,

511
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Speaker 3: don't get like, don't think this is anything other than that.

512
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Speaker 3: Like Shorts is like, you're annoyance, stop talking about me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: He actually has said that, stop Like I'm not kidding.

515
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Speaker 3: He's like, you're not on our show Goodbye.

516
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Speaker 1: Okay, I was like, oh my god, she's crying.

517
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Speaker 3: No, she's crying. She wants me on the show. Wait

518
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Speaker 3: until she finds out the show's ending. Oh my god,

519
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: I want video of that. That's like finding like that's

520
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: like getting a job at a company and thinking that

521
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: you're going to work your way up and then you

522
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: find out the company went bankrupt and you're like, oh shit.

523
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

524
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Speaker 2: So I'm a fool because when she was crying saying

525
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Speaker 2: the whole thing about she was kept a secret for

526
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Speaker 2: a year and Tom Schartz, but.

527
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Speaker 3: I'm sure she was because he was like, oh my god.

528
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Speaker 3: The evolution media is like this girl is not interesting, Like,

529
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Speaker 3: don't bring her in fold. I don't know, like I

530
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: know she's like really loves being a reality TV on

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Speaker 3: a reality show.

532
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Speaker 2: If y'all can see my face right now, I am

533
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: in shock. I'm like the Homer Simpson meme where he's like,

534
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: folly back to the bushes because I feel like such

535
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: a fool because I was falling for the tears when

536
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: she was like, can you gotta to stop it?

537
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: And Tom Schwartz was like, I got this new girl.

538
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: So Sophia, who's like, very hot, but that's not why

539
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: she's hot. She's hot cause she's sweet.

540
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: Like that's why Katie was like, what, I'm not apologizing

541
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 3: to you, Like you're so irrelevant, get off this, And

542
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: that's why everyone was like why are you here? And

543
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 3: then Ali is interesting to me because I don't see

544
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: the chemistry between she and James, like i'd be interested

545
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: once the show goes off if they stay together.

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Speaker 4: I feel empathy for James.

547
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I feel like he's really investing in someone

548
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: who is not totally on the same page.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually agree with you.

550
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Speaker 2: I don't think she's into him the way he's into.

551
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 3: Her, and she kind of like makes fun of him,

552
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: like the one scene it was like a couple episodes

553
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: where she said he picks out all my outfits, like

554
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 3: she's mocking him a little bit, Like I don't know

555
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: why he's so into me. I'm never gonna get married.

556
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: I don't even like him. I'm like, you moved into

557
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: his house in Burbank, Like what do you what? Yeah,

558
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: it's hard to have empathy for the vander Pump people,

559
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: but I have empathy for James because I feel like

560
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: he's being a little bit being boozled.

561
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Speaker 2: Well, is that the reason why his anger is so

562
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: directed at Sandaval because it's a displaced anger because of

563
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: what's going on at home, Because I'm not unders.

564
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Speaker 3: Thinking, like displaced anger is always having to do with

565
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: fourth wall stuff like why are you getting more opportunities?

566
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: You're getting more attention? How many times have you been

567
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: on Watch What Happens Live? Like that's all that kind

568
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: of stuff. I'm like, I, by the way, I've displaced

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00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: anger too. I've never been on Watch What Happens Live?

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Speaker 1: Get you on a fire Listen.

571
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Speaker 2: I'm screaming because what the audience doesn't know is this

572
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: the reality starts off Bravo. They count how many times

573
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: what your castmates were featured on Watch What Appens Live?

574
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: If it's more than that they actually count, is they

575
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Speaker 1: keep a tally?

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Speaker 2: So the fact that cakes like Jesus saying, why does

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00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: sat the Ball get la times feature?

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Speaker 1: Why is it live?

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Speaker 3: But you know what the jokes on everybody because you know,

580
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: of all those cast members, I think James is the

581
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: smartest one because he actually is like going to probably

582
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: make so much money as a DJ, Like I'm not

583
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: worried about him financially.

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00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 4: I think he's actually gonna be all right.

585
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Speaker 2: But you know what's missing, though, Kate, what's that they want?

586
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: The cameras, Holly d have potential to really be what

587
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: you're saying like is humor is like.

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00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: I think jas he's making a lot of money though

589
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: poly d' is making a lot of.

590
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Speaker 1: Money, So James has the potential.

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Speaker 4: First, I'm not worried about him.

592
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Speaker 1: Who are you worried about?

593
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about James. I'm not worried about Arianna.

594
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm worried about everybody else. Why because I think they're

595
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: they're going to be panicked about, like where do I

596
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: go from here? It's really hard, Like they put their

597
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: lives totally into this show for so long, and you

598
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: got to have a backup plan and I don't know

599
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: what do you? What are you going to do? You

600
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: get a job at a bank, you're an host? Tate

601
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: like wait tables been working in an amusement.

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Speaker 1: Park and they've done that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Sienah does like a lot of like YouTube stuff.

604
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Speaker 3: But I do think that there's a panic because I

605
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: will not say it is, but I heard a story

606
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: a producer tell me about a Bravo star and how

607
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: they are only on the show that they're on because

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00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: they need to do Amazon Lives because they make so

609
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: much money doing it, and as soon as they're off

610
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: the show, they're not gonna make much money on it

611
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: because the Amazon Lives are where they drop information like

612
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 3: inside info. The fact that Bravo is not picking up

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00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: on this and like putting a kabash is unteresting to me.

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Speaker 1: Well you just rebuilding now, Kate, so not being.

615
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: I know, well maybe not and they don't care about me.

616
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: But one thing I heard once heard was like Kanye

617
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: would go on the Kardashians to sell the merchandise because

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Speaker 3: that's how he could move it. Because the truth is

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Speaker 3: when you go on a show, it puts you top

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Speaker 3: of mind. Then people going to your like socials. He

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Speaker 3: needed to go on the Kardashians to sell all the

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Speaker 3: shoes and all of that stuff. So a lot of

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Speaker 3: I think a lot are doing the show because they

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Speaker 3: know that they're relying on the show for many reasons,

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00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: which include their own egos but also the success of

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Speaker 3: the ancillary businesses are relying on them being on the show.

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