Speaker 1: What's that.
Speaker 2: Ben and Youki, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming
Speaker 2: this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, he.
Speaker 2: Hi, ros Dress Eve Please hey boo, it's me Roz
Speaker 2: Dress Flees. It is time for another listener episode, which
Speaker 2: I absolutely love. This is, I guess now the third
Speaker 2: one that we've done and it's just so nice to
Speaker 2: get to talk to some of our listeners and they
Speaker 2: really bring the stories. So if you want to be
Speaker 2: in a listener episode I love. I would love to
Speaker 2: do one once a month, which is what we've been doing.
Speaker 2: So please just send me a ghost story in an email.
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Speaker 2: one of these listener episodes. I have big news before
Speaker 2: we get into it. The next live Ghosted in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: California will be on the twenty first of January. It's
Speaker 2: a Tuesday, and the show is at eight pm and
Speaker 2: it is also at the Cavern Club Celebrity Theater at
Speaker 2: the world famous restaurant Casita del Campo in Silver Lake,
Speaker 2: which is the same place that we did the first
Speaker 2: live show. And I have Alessandra Torresani recent podcast guest.
Speaker 2: She will be there with me as well. And I
Speaker 2: really can't wait. And I think it's it's going to
Speaker 2: be a great Christmas gift. If you live in an
Speaker 2: area not far or in Los Angeles, it'd be a
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Speaker 2: let's listen to some listeners. I've been ghosted too. Is
Speaker 2: this Christina? This is how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good. I just got home from work, so I'm
Speaker 3: like I was awaiting your call and I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Where are you.
Speaker 3: I'm in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, I actually have never been to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Tom, you'd love.
Speaker 2: It live show me.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, what are we talking about today.
Speaker 3: So we are talking about my dad's house. Okay, So,
Speaker 3: like I said, I'm from Pittsburgh, and my family, especially
Speaker 3: my dad's side of the family, we've all kind of
Speaker 3: like had this sixth sense about us. You know. My grandmother,
Speaker 3: specifically my paternal grandmother, who I'm like her minimal and
Speaker 3: so we're all super intuitive, has had like experiences. I
Speaker 3: mean since I was a kid, I like, similar to you,
Speaker 3: I can walk into a room and feel like I
Speaker 3: can feel the energy. I can feel when something's like freaky. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, so we are all like that, and
Speaker 3: as a kid freaked me out and I would always
Speaker 3: feel it at my grandparents' house but which is now
Speaker 3: my dad's house. And my dad grew up in a
Speaker 3: town called Nandahela, which is like south of Pittsburgh. It's
Speaker 3: like an old, like blue collar Mi name town. And
Speaker 3: this house is like two hundred years old. And whoa,
Speaker 3: I know that my yeah right, yeah, and I know
Speaker 3: that my family in the house has been in my family.
Speaker 3: Like my grandfather grew up in this house, so it
Speaker 3: was pasted like his brother had it, and then my
Speaker 3: grandparents lived there when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: That's really cool and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so's it's not so that it's been in the
Speaker 3: family of the whole time. But like as a kid,
Speaker 3: when I would go and sleep there, I did not
Speaker 3: sleep atle Like I was always freaked out. There was
Speaker 3: always something and I didn't like it. See like, but
Speaker 3: you were a spooky kid. I was afraid to be
Speaker 3: a spooky kid.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: It scared me so much. So I feel like I actually,
Speaker 3: I mean, I consider myself today to be a psychic impath.
Speaker 3: And then I feel like I had put this block
Speaker 3: up that like if I hadn't done that, who knows
Speaker 3: what my abilities could be today, because now it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's super opened up, especially since I turned thirty.
Speaker 3: That like was a whole whirlwind.
Speaker 2: But anyway, what are what's the who is there a
Speaker 2: specific spirit that lives there?
Speaker 3: So the experience that I know of, but well, there's
Speaker 3: there's been lots of experiences, but the one was my grandfather.
Speaker 3: So my main story, Well, there's lots of things that
Speaker 3: have happened in the house. And when about fifteen years
Speaker 3: ago my twin sister and I who's also a huge
Speaker 3: fan of yours, can show tatement, we were at my
Speaker 3: dad's her father's ly weekend, and you know, things happened
Speaker 3: like lights shut on and off and doors shut and
Speaker 3: you know, stuff like that, so it's not out of
Speaker 3: the ordinary. We were all sitting on the porch and
Speaker 3: my dad had sent my sister in to get something
Speaker 3: from the kitchen, and she came out, and when my
Speaker 3: dad went in after her, he came out and yelled
Speaker 3: at her from leaving the kitchen light on. Now let
Speaker 3: me preface too. My dad is like big Italian guy,
Speaker 3: like tuck guy, you know, so of course he like
Speaker 3: yell at us, like why did you make the light on?
Speaker 1: Like I didn't.
Speaker 3: I swear I didn't. So we're still hanging out, and uh,
Speaker 3: not too long later, my dad goes inside and a
Speaker 3: few minutes later when he comes out, and for lack
Speaker 3: of a better term, he looks like he's seen the ghost.
Speaker 3: And yeah, we were like, we're like, Dad, what's wrongs? Like,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna believe me if I if I tell you,
Speaker 3: So he sits down and he begins to tell us
Speaker 3: that when he went in to the kitchen, the light
Speaker 3: was on, and he was like and he knew he
Speaker 3: was the last one in, so he couldn't blame any
Speaker 3: of us. And he said out loud, who turned the
Speaker 3: goddamn light on? And he hears the voice say I did,
Speaker 3: And he looks over in the corner and he sees
Speaker 3: my grandfather standing there. Yeah. And at this point, when
Speaker 3: my dad is telling us this, he immediately breaks down
Speaker 3: in tears.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: So like he's he's yeah, he's one of those guys
Speaker 3: that like to see him cry is a rarity. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so it was like, oh my god, like it
Speaker 3: was even more valid. Dingly, that was the thing. So
Speaker 3: he starts and I danced. My grandfather said Happy father Day.
Speaker 2: Whoa, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 3: So it's like a Father's Day gift visit, like from
Speaker 3: his dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a mic drop moment where
Speaker 2: he was just like it was me. You got a
Speaker 2: problem with it, didn't think? So Happy Father's Day?
Speaker 3: Bye? Question, Yes exactly, like you know, you have to
Speaker 3: poke back in the room. And by the way, happy
Speaker 3: father so cool. Yeah. So it freaked me out. I
Speaker 3: was not cool And people would say like, oh, but
Speaker 3: it's your grandfather's Like I don't care, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't want you to hurt me. But again, I was
Speaker 3: so scared then and now I feel them bad now
Speaker 3: that I took such a hard line. But he gets it.
Speaker 3: He understands. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the thing I always say about that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff is like, Okay, I have one grandfather that's still
Speaker 2: living right now, and if all of a sudden he
Speaker 2: popped into my kitchen and then disappeared, even though he's
Speaker 2: alive right now, I would scream if I was not
Speaker 2: expecting my grandfather to be there, if I went home
Speaker 2: right now in California. My grandfather lives in Michigan. In
Speaker 2: my mind, there's no way he would ever be there.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, He's just standing there, He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: what's up? I would scream. So, yeah, you have every
Speaker 2: right to be like weirded out.
Speaker 3: You get it. It's just like you know, and I
Speaker 3: loved it, my path haf I loved him. He died
Speaker 3: when I was in kindergarten, so I did know him
Speaker 3: a little bit. But it's still like, yeah, you're a ghost.
Speaker 3: I don't care come and see me like at all.
Speaker 3: So I used to like sleep with the covers over
Speaker 3: my head, like like tucked under my eyes before I
Speaker 3: would go his sleep for years, like I was in
Speaker 3: college staying at my dad, but I would still do
Speaker 3: it because I was like so scared because there's other
Speaker 3: freaky things that have happened in that house us. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: so there's a story that right after my grandfather's passed,
Speaker 3: my grandmother and my uncle were in the basement writing
Speaker 3: thank you cards to people. And my grandmother lived in
Speaker 3: the house at this time still, and she had had
Speaker 3: a bucket with water next to the tub. I guess
Speaker 3: she was cleaning, I don't know. And so it was
Speaker 3: next to the tub on the on the bathroom floor
Speaker 3: and they were downstairs and they hear this cloud crash
Speaker 3: and my uncle goes upstairs and the bucket is turned
Speaker 3: over inside of the tub. WHOA, So how did that
Speaker 3: bucket get in the tub?
Speaker 2: I want to see the footage. There's got to be footage.
Speaker 2: That's what you got to set up cameras everywhere, because
Speaker 2: that means that went into the tub and dumped over.
Speaker 3: And yeah, because it was next to the tub on
Speaker 3: the floor, So how did it get in there? I mean,
Speaker 3: it would be freaking just for it to dump over,
Speaker 3: but to then be in the tub.
Speaker 2: But why, like, why does that need to happen, well.
Speaker 3: Right, and okay, so like then another story, my uncle,
Speaker 3: that same uncle, he lives in Maryland, so he and
Speaker 3: his wife were in visiting, and and they were staying
Speaker 3: in the room that my sister and I would always
Speaker 3: stay in, which I always the upstairs was. I mean,
Speaker 3: the whole house is creepy, but the upstairs was super threepy.
Speaker 3: And they would say they were staying in that room,
Speaker 3: and I guess my uncle had like gotten up to
Speaker 3: go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3: My aunt was sleeping, and like she got up when
Speaker 3: he came back, and she felt a compression down like
Speaker 3: like somebody sat on the bed at the foot of
Speaker 3: the bed, and she said something to my uncle and
Speaker 3: he didn't respond, and so she looked up and no
Speaker 3: one was there, but there was an indent and then
Speaker 3: like like somebody was sitting there, and then the indent
Speaker 3: slowly like raised up.
Speaker 2: That is such a like classic ghost move. Like eveil
Speaker 2: that bed and Breakfast that I stayed at, there were
Speaker 2: so many stories of that, like oh you can just
Speaker 2: like someone will sit on the bed and there's no
Speaker 2: one there, and.
Speaker 3: Like why does it have to be two?
Speaker 2: Am you know well. And another thing is like you
Speaker 2: when you sit on a bed, I feel like there's
Speaker 2: probably a wider, like a wider imprint than your actual
Speaker 2: But so I feel like, oh, sure, like I would
Speaker 2: be mad. I wouldn't want to do that move because
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, these people are gonna think I
Speaker 2: got a big white ass. That's where my head is grow.
Speaker 3: You and me, Yeah, it was. It was crazy. And
Speaker 3: now what my dad has always said. First, my dad
Speaker 3: would be really nat if you know I was, because
Speaker 3: the ones people think they're like nuts, but it's obviously
Speaker 3: it's for real. It happened. But he always said that
Speaker 3: we shouldn't be afraid of it because that even though
Speaker 3: the house is two hundred years old, it's been family
Speaker 3: for years and years years. Yeah, odds are it's probably family,
Speaker 3: and I think, like it's just revidual stuff. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think you could. I think you could come and
Speaker 3: say hey, if you wanted to, I would think after
Speaker 3: you die.
Speaker 2: But also like, I mean, I don't want my family
Speaker 2: to see everything I'm doing at all times. I mean,
Speaker 2: my family would get mad about some things that I'm doing,
Speaker 2: and I don't want them to be in my house.
Speaker 2: Haunted me and get mad because I did something, and
Speaker 2: then like I don't want to but I guess. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just totally get what he's saying though, that is
Speaker 2: it could be way worse.
Speaker 3: Right, could be way worse. Absolutely. I don't think any
Speaker 3: of it is malicious or anything like that. But I
Speaker 3: mean an, as I've gotten older, I think I've accepted it.
Speaker 3: But I also like, haven't had to go and sleep
Speaker 3: with my dad's in a long time. Yeah, I'm cool.
Speaker 2: But he still deals with this like every day, like
Speaker 2: there's stuff going on or what.
Speaker 3: Well, so my dad travels a lot too, so he's
Speaker 3: really not there that often. In fact, I think he's
Speaker 3: planning to sell his house soon. I know, I know,
Speaker 3: but I don't want to live there. It's great, it's
Speaker 3: like and there is there is something about it, like
Speaker 3: because when he talked about it, I was like, aw that,
Speaker 3: I almost like, shut your mouth. You've done something but
Speaker 3: bitch for years about his house. But now it's like, ah,
Speaker 3: but yeah, so but yeah, who knows. He he has
Speaker 3: things like like the lights flickering on and off and
Speaker 3: and that's just like what he tells us. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what he I I got right after
Speaker 3: my grandfather died. He did see like he was standing
Speaker 3: outside of the house and he looked up in the
Speaker 3: window and he saw my grandfather in the window.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then it went away, and I
Speaker 3: think he kind of shook it off, like my dad
Speaker 3: just died, you know, Like but yeah, so it wasn't
Speaker 3: his first appearance in the house.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's yeah, really crazy. Yeah, because didn't you have
Speaker 2: something about a theater or something?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, well you read my story a theater ghost.
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 3: So that happened to me?
Speaker 2: Wait which one was that? Which theater ghost?
Speaker 3: So that was the one where I did a performance
Speaker 3: over the summer at a small old theater and I
Speaker 3: was getting ready for my performance and I had like
Speaker 3: all all my peeps were in the audience that night,
Speaker 3: and I was I got a little nervous, and I
Speaker 3: don't I don't get your this, but I did. I
Speaker 3: got a little nervous, and I was like bent down,
Speaker 3: like pulling up my socks and I was like kind
Speaker 3: of saying like little prayer. I was just like, no,
Speaker 3: I hope everything goes well. And I felt like a
Speaker 3: little hat on the middle of my back. Like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay, yeah, you know like that energy.
Speaker 3: And I turned around and no one was there and
Speaker 3: I was in my dressing room with the door shut.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So but I ended up being my best performance of
Speaker 3: the run. Okay. Yeah, so I was like, this is guy,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: Whoa, that's really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Where are you calling from?
Speaker 5: I'm calling from Sacramento, California.
Speaker 2: Oh cool. Hopefully I'll be going up to San San
Speaker 2: Francisco soon doing a live show.
Speaker 5: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, what are we talking about today?
Speaker 5: All right, so I'm going to be telling you about
Speaker 5: the time that I sort of performed an exorcism at
Speaker 5: my friend's house and it worked.
Speaker 6: Okay, sounds a little bit crazy.
Speaker 2: So are you a full on house exorcist?
Speaker 6: Uh? Not officially, but it works.
Speaker 2: Said you can start a business.
Speaker 1: I considered it.
Speaker 5: I want I could make some good money ghosted listeners.
Speaker 2: Hit me up totally. If you live in the Sacramento
Speaker 2: area and your house is possessed, I got a girl
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 6: Hit me up in the Facebook group.
Speaker 2: Wait, so, okay, what happened?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 5: So, as a little bit of backstory, I was raised
Speaker 5: in a very conservative Christian home. My dad was a
Speaker 5: pastor when I was young, and he had performed some
Speaker 5: extras that he would never tell me about them, and
Speaker 5: he still won't to this day. So I feel like
Speaker 5: some shady stuff happens.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: But so I already had some experience with this. I
Speaker 5: was obsessed with, you know, ghost Hunters and all of
Speaker 5: those shows. So I met a friend and we bonded because.
Speaker 6: Of our love of spooky stuff.
Speaker 5: And so she started telling me about her super haunted house.
Speaker 5: So it was this old farmhouse that was built in
Speaker 5: the eighteen hundreds, and she told me that they would
Speaker 5: hear things moving around in other rooms, and they would
Speaker 5: hear running up and down the stairs, which I didn't
Speaker 5: think was too strange. And then she said that her
Speaker 5: mom would wake up randomly and see an old man
Speaker 5: standing at the end of her bed, just casually watching
Speaker 5: her sleep. That was a little bit uncomfortable. And then
Speaker 5: she told me about what was happening upstairs, which is
Speaker 5: where her and all of her siblings slept. So there
Speaker 5: was some sort of dark entity up there that was
Speaker 5: preying on my friends would wake up and be paralyzed.
Speaker 5: It's I'd imagine some of this would probably do the
Speaker 5: sleep paralysis, but there were too many other things that
Speaker 5: happened to just count it as that. But she would
Speaker 5: wake up and there would just be this big black
Speaker 5: thing on top of her. She said, it looked like
Speaker 5: the demon from Insidious. If you've ever seen that, Oh wow,
Speaker 5: that's not nearly as much like Darth Maul as the
Speaker 5: one from Insidious did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one is scary, yes, and so.
Speaker 5: That, and it would stick its claws in her hair
Speaker 5: and it would whisper things to her like you're gonna die,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna kill your whole family,
Speaker 5: all of these you know, horrifying things.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's just casually telling me this in like
Speaker 5: an ice cream shop, and I'm and so her mom
Speaker 5: had had a psychic friend actually come and walk through
Speaker 5: the house to see if she picked anything up, and
Speaker 5: they hadn't told her anything that was going on. So
Speaker 5: she picked out the old man right away. And she
Speaker 5: said that there was a portal in my friend's mom's
Speaker 5: bathroom which was causing all of this problem. There was,
Speaker 5: you know, the veil was thin there, so things were
Speaker 5: coming through that were not welcome. And she wouldn't even
Speaker 5: go upstairs. She said, there is something dark and malicious
Speaker 5: upstairs and it wants to hurt you. So with that,
Speaker 5: I decided that I, at sixteen years old, could fix
Speaker 5: this problem for them. So I went home and I.
Speaker 6: Started my research.
Speaker 5: So I found like scriptures. I found some you know,
Speaker 5: the Lord's Prayer. I had my mom's old Bible, and
Speaker 5: so I went to my friend's house for the first time,
Speaker 5: and I snuck upstairs while she was cooking dinner. So
Speaker 5: she had no idea whatsoever that I was doing this,
Speaker 5: which is very important to note, So I snink upstairs. Now,
Speaker 5: in my particular religion, I've heard you've mentioned it once
Speaker 5: through to mye on this show, but we believe in
Speaker 5: speaking in tongues. Oh okay, is basically just like praying,
Speaker 5: but you're sort of just making sounds and God's supposed
Speaker 5: to know what you mean. I don't really understand it,
Speaker 5: but I decided to give that a shot. I would
Speaker 5: do everything in my arsenal. So I was speaking in tongues.
Speaker 5: I was, you know, reciting versus the Lord's Prayer, and
Speaker 5: I just kept saying over and over, you know, I
Speaker 5: command you to leave, and the name of God, I
Speaker 5: command you to leave, and all these things quiet for you,
Speaker 5: of course, because their entire family is downstairs and I
Speaker 5: don't want them to think I'm a crazy person. So
Speaker 5: once I got to the top of the stairs, I
Speaker 5: had finished the.
Speaker 6: Hole upstairs, and it was like I could hear.
Speaker 5: Someone laughing at me, and it just freaked me out.
Speaker 5: So I ran back downstairs, didn't tell my friend, put
Speaker 5: my Bible away, and just thought, Okay, I hope this
Speaker 5: does something. So the next day my friend comes up
Speaker 5: to me at school and she goes, I have the
Speaker 5: scariest dream last night. The demon came to me and
Speaker 5: it was saying, hey, dare you try to get rid
Speaker 5: of me? You can't get rid of me. I'm more
Speaker 5: powerful than all of you and all of these things.
Speaker 5: And she had no idea what it was talking about,
Speaker 5: and she was so scared. She was like, I didn't
Speaker 5: do anything. I didn't try to get rid of it.
Speaker 6: And something I felt horrible.
Speaker 5: I accidentally pissed off a demon. But luckily after that
Speaker 5: dream it never came back again, so apparently I did strong.
Speaker 6: Enough to get rid of it.
Speaker 5: It was its last ditch effort to scare her and
Speaker 5: it didn't work, and so I don't know how effective
Speaker 5: it actually was, but I like to say I exercised
Speaker 5: her house because they never had any problems again.
Speaker 2: WHOA interesting. So would you would you be open to
Speaker 2: doing it again if the opportunity like actually presented itself.
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I would love to.
Speaker 6: I would love to do exorcisms too.
Speaker 5: I've always felt really drew into that, and I've actually
Speaker 5: been on a lot of the lives of Elena's your
Speaker 5: former podcast guest, uh huh.
Speaker 6: And I've been working on kind of opening myself.
Speaker 5: Up more and being less scared of the spooky side
Speaker 5: of things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe in a few years.
Speaker 2: That's pretty fearless, like at sixteen, especially just to like
Speaker 2: go up there with this insidious demon and just be
Speaker 2: like speaking in tongues.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I wish I was as fearless at twenty four as
Speaker 5: I was at sixteen, because that was pretty ballsy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know much about speaking in tongues. I know,
Speaker 2: drag queens we speak in tongues. We do tongue pops,
Speaker 2: we go, it's slightly different. Is that the same thing?
Speaker 5: Enough tongue pops you could probably get a demon out
Speaker 5: of somewhere.
Speaker 2: Too, did you Is it true that you also, like,
Speaker 2: worked at a haunted cookie factory.
Speaker 5: Yes, I did work at a haunted cookie factory. So
Speaker 5: the cookie factory is near Sacramento, and it used to
Speaker 5: be an old hotel that part of it burned down,
Speaker 5: and I believe it was the late eighteen hundred and
Speaker 5: the factory has been around since eighteen ninety two. So
Speaker 5: a few people had died in the fire, but we
Speaker 5: couldn't find names of anyone. And so when I started
Speaker 5: working there, one of the first things.
Speaker 6: People asked me was, you know, have you heard about
Speaker 6: the ghosts? And I was like, what ghosts? Let me
Speaker 6: find them immediately.
Speaker 5: So we were working night shift one night and my boss,
Speaker 5: who had had the most experiences, he was actually one
Speaker 5: of the owners of the company. He was standing there,
Speaker 5: he was facing us, and all of us were facing him,
Speaker 5: just working, and all of a sudden, I look up,
Speaker 5: and for lack.
Speaker 6: Of a better word, it looked like he had seen
Speaker 6: a ghost.
Speaker 5: His face had just gone sheet white, and as soon
Speaker 5: as I looked at him, he looked away. So I said,
Speaker 5: what was it, what's going on? And he said nothing, nothing,
Speaker 5: And he would not tell us because he didn't want
Speaker 5: to scare us. So finally we got it out of him,
Speaker 5: and he said, the little girl was behind you guys,
Speaker 5: So of course internal panic immediate. Apparently there's a little
Speaker 5: girl that haunts the factory and she like there's a
Speaker 5: spiral where the cookie is cool off, and she likes
Speaker 5: to sit cross legged right in the middle and just
Speaker 5: stare at people.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, ghosts are cold, so maybe she was
Speaker 2: helping cool off the cookie. Ye oh yeah, or that
Speaker 2: yeah she, But I mean if if if I was
Speaker 2: a child, that might be terrible because she probably can't
Speaker 2: eat the cookies.
Speaker 1: Ah yes, And well the cookies were terrible.
Speaker 5: Anyway, oh okay, because it was a bonus for her.
Speaker 5: But there was an old man ghost all so that
Speaker 5: would follow people around. And once he had there was
Speaker 5: one guy left in the building and he was shutting
Speaker 5: everything down and he could like he would turn his
Speaker 5: head and he would see somebody run behind him. And
Speaker 5: it was happening the whole time. And this is a
Speaker 5: big factory, so it's creepy when the lights are shut out.
Speaker 5: And eventually he got everything shut out and ran out
Speaker 5: so fast. He sent us a picture of himself on
Speaker 5: the freeway, saying I'm never going back there by myself again.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, A grown man skeptic. Yeah, did not believe.
Speaker 5: In ghosts, so safe to say those cookies had a little.
Speaker 6: Extra spooky ingredients to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you? Did you personally ever encounter them?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 5: I never got to physically see them, but I did
Speaker 5: get to hear some fun things. So I was I
Speaker 5: had come late, and so during a break, I stayed
Speaker 5: behind and everyone else went to break. So I was
Speaker 5: sitting there sweeping and it was completely silent, and there's
Speaker 5: a metal detector where if a cookie goes under it
Speaker 5: that has metal in it, it'll bang open and.
Speaker 6: Drop up all the cookies out.
Speaker 5: However, there were no cookies. Nothing was on, and all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, this mis machine just starts going bang
Speaker 5: bang bang bang over and over again. And so I
Speaker 5: turned to look at it, and as soon as I
Speaker 5: looked at it, it stopped, and so I walked towards it.
Speaker 5: I said, Okay, I feel like you guys are here,
Speaker 5: so just so you know I'm here to play, you know,
Speaker 5: come on out. And so I heard a laugh from
Speaker 5: the other side of the room and turned around just
Speaker 5: in time to see a shadow go by the corner
Speaker 5: of my eye, So I it could have been my imagination,
Speaker 5: but I am a wholehearted believer, and I there were ghosts,
Speaker 5: So I'm saying the ghost paid me a visit.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, so the ghost laughed.
Speaker 6: Yes, I heard a.
Speaker 5: Little kid laugh, and we knew that there was a
Speaker 5: little girl. And then I turned and out of the
Speaker 5: corner of my eye saw a shadow run away.
Speaker 2: But didn't you also say that at the other place,
Speaker 2: the exorcism, that demon laughed.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: I don't know why all of these spiritual creatures are
Speaker 5: laughing at me, but I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you must be hilarious. And like the ghost world
Speaker 2: and the and the you could be like a headlining
Speaker 2: comedian in the in the spiritual realm.
Speaker 5: Yes, I will headline hell as.
Speaker 2: Soon as I get there, because yes, sounds like you're
Speaker 2: just killing out there. Wow, a haunted cookie factory. That's
Speaker 2: very and this is up and Sacramento.
Speaker 4: Yes it is.
Speaker 5: It's a family run business called Spawn's Cookies.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Spawns. I said, your cookies are terrible.
Speaker 5: Yes, And so everybody knows about the ghost. I became
Speaker 5: the ghost welcomers. So people would come in that the
Speaker 5: new employees, and I would be the first one to
Speaker 5: tell them all the ghost stories everyone had had and
Speaker 5: make sure they were nice and spooked. We named the
Speaker 5: little girl, I believe they named her Clarissa, and so
Speaker 5: we would talk to her sometimes just seeing if she
Speaker 5: was around.
Speaker 6: Ohelets to mess with people, though.
Speaker 5: Ovens would go off at weird times when the machine
Speaker 5: worked right.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's Haunted Cookie Factory.
Speaker 2: I feel like every haunted job has to have that
Speaker 2: one ghost ambassador. The person that you know is like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're new around here, Well have you encountered Clarissa yet?
Speaker 2: What who's that you'll see? I love that That's.
Speaker 5: Almost exactly how every one of those interactions went down.
Speaker 5: So yes, I'm the ghost Ambassador and I'm putting that
Speaker 5: on my resume.
Speaker 2: Along with House Exorcist, teenage Home Exorcist. Well this is great.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I got to talk to you.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for calling you or fulfilling my
Speaker 5: dream of being on a podcast. This is a weird
Speaker 5: dream I've had for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Oh yay. Well, if you happen to, you know, encounter
Speaker 2: any other ghosts or exercise any other houses. Hit me
Speaker 2: up and we can have you back on.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Is this Blake? Hi Blake? So we're recording already. Where
Speaker 2: are you calling from?
Speaker 4: I am currently calling from Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: What are you doing in Nashville?
Speaker 4: I am a costume designer professionally out here, I work
Speaker 4: for a theater company. But I do so many different things.
Speaker 4: I'm a drag queen myself. I'm a caro reader. I
Speaker 4: obviously do clothes. I'm a wig maker. I wear several hats.
Speaker 2: Wow, you keep busy.
Speaker 4: That's an understatement.
Speaker 2: And you're also someone that has experienced ghosts.
Speaker 4: I have. I have so many stories.
Speaker 2: So let's hear about the ghosts of Fullerton, California.
Speaker 1: Oo.
Speaker 4: I am originally from Anahom. I grew up literally right
Speaker 4: behind Disneyland, like the parking structures on the corner Ball
Speaker 4: and Walnut basically, and I lived on the other side
Speaker 4: of that intersection.
Speaker 2: So do you just hear fireworks all night?
Speaker 4: Completely? Like I could literally see them from my bedroom window. Wow.
Speaker 4: And that house had like some spooky things, but it
Speaker 4: was never what I would really call like haunted. And
Speaker 4: then we decided we were moving and so my mom
Speaker 4: set up. This was when I was sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 4: My mom's thought up viewing of this house that she
Speaker 4: had told me about. She told me I would love
Speaker 4: it because it's all vintage on the inside. It's from
Speaker 4: like it was remodeled in like the seventies, and so
Speaker 4: everything's avocado green and super chic. Oh my god, obsessed now.
Speaker 4: The thing that she didn't tell me is that the
Speaker 4: house had sat empty for eleven years before we moved in.
Speaker 4: And the reason that it had sat like unoccupied for
Speaker 4: those eleven years is because the previous owner had passed
Speaker 4: away and her kids, who the house basically fell onto,
Speaker 4: didn't want to deal with it, and so they just
Speaker 4: left it unoccupied. So we were the first people to
Speaker 4: do a viewing of the house period, And when we
Speaker 4: walked in, Roz, I swear to god, it literally was
Speaker 4: like the day that the previous owner had passed away,
Speaker 4: Like her mail was still on the counter, like her
Speaker 4: were still in the cupboards, her clothes were still in
Speaker 4: the closet, like the whole deal. And so we were like,
Speaker 4: this is a strange, like little time capsule moment.
Speaker 2: Was anybody like dusting it or anything.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: It literally was just like it was like the door
Speaker 4: had closed when she died and then they opened it
Speaker 4: and let us in. WHOA, Like yeah, it was like
Speaker 4: retrospectively spooky. At the time, I was like young and stupid,
Speaker 4: was like this is so neat. So we ended up
Speaker 4: buying the house and I moved in before the rest
Speaker 4: of my family because they were still packing up at
Speaker 4: the previous house, and so I was in the house
Speaker 4: for like four days by myself, and literally right away
Speaker 4: I was like, this feels kind of weird. And it's
Speaker 4: one of those old houses with wooden floors that like
Speaker 4: have a lot of space underneath the wooden floor, so
Speaker 4: like all steps really echo through the house. You can
Speaker 4: really hear everything. And so my first couple of nights,
Speaker 4: I like started to hear what I thought were like
Speaker 4: maybe footsteps around the house, but I was like, no,
Speaker 4: maybe not. And so time like kind of went by.
Speaker 4: It was sort of like pretty low key for a while,
Speaker 4: and then I started doing a lot of cooking in
Speaker 4: the kitchen and it still had the original avocado green
Speaker 4: stove in it, and I was like baking something one
Speaker 4: day and I pulled the stove or the oven door open,
Speaker 4: and I noticed right next to the oven, in a
Speaker 4: space between the oven and the counter next to it,
Speaker 4: there was this little like wooden stick thing hanging on
Speaker 4: a nail on the cupboard, and so I picked it
Speaker 4: up and pulled it out, and it was this like
Speaker 4: hand carved wooden thing used for pulling wrecks out of
Speaker 4: the oven. But it had the name Angela burned into it,
Speaker 4: and Angela was the name of the woman who owned
Speaker 4: the house who passed away, and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's kind of me, and so I literally just put
Speaker 4: it back and I was like, I'm going to leave
Speaker 4: this here like as just sort of a way to
Speaker 4: like honor her and like be respectful of her space.
Speaker 4: And right after that happened and I had that moment,
Speaker 4: stuff really started kicking up in the kitchen, so like
Speaker 4: I would be in there, my dog would be at
Speaker 4: my feet, and like a ball would just roll across
Speaker 4: the floor from the other side of the room towards
Speaker 4: my dog, like just completely out of nowhere. But like
Speaker 4: most of the time when I was in the kitchen cooking,
Speaker 4: it was just sort of this really warm presence, just
Speaker 4: very full of love, Like it felt like she was
Speaker 4: really there with me and really liked what we were doing.
Speaker 3: With the space.
Speaker 4: However, there was a separate entity in that house that
Speaker 4: was not very nice.
Speaker 2: And it one sorry say what now?
Speaker 4: Uh huh? So this one was retrospectively, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: this one was ever human, Like It's one of those
Speaker 4: things that had such a darkness to it where I
Speaker 4: was like, I never was one to be like it's demons,
Speaker 4: but like it might be demons. Why so it started.
Speaker 4: I used to have this group of friends and we
Speaker 4: would skype every single night, and like we would just
Speaker 4: get home from school or whatever. None of us lived
Speaker 4: near each other, We'd all met like online randomly, and
Speaker 4: so we would just like get home from school, open
Speaker 4: our laptops, and the sky call would or to be running.
Speaker 4: We would just jump in and out of it and
Speaker 4: we would talk from like literally getting home from school
Speaker 4: until like four in the morning sometimes. And so one
Speaker 4: of these nights, I was lying in bed and there's
Speaker 4: a big window next to the bed that I'm staying
Speaker 4: or next to the bed in my bedroom, and I'm
Speaker 4: laying there it's like three am, which you know, I'm
Speaker 4: on Skype with all of my friends and literally like
Speaker 4: clear as day on the other side, like from the window,
Speaker 4: I heard what's kind of like a fingernail tap three times,
Speaker 4: tap top tap on the window, and it froze me
Speaker 4: like ice went through my veins. I was like, I
Speaker 4: am done, I'm done, and I literally like closed my laptop,
Speaker 4: rolled over and was just like I'm going to sleep now.
Speaker 2: And now do we think Angela had some sickening acrylic
Speaker 2: nails or do we think it was a demon claw?
Speaker 4: She was like standing on the other side smoking a
Speaker 4: cigarette out of a cigarette holder and just tap tap tup.
Speaker 2: But it could be a demon claw as well, which
Speaker 2: are easy to mistake.
Speaker 4: Well, and they say too, And I didn't know this
Speaker 4: at the time that like tap tapping in threes and
Speaker 4: sixes is supposedly like of the devil, Like if you
Speaker 4: hear like knocks and things, usually it's okay unless it
Speaker 4: comes in like threes or sixes. I don't know. So
Speaker 4: this happens truly, probably like four more times, and I
Speaker 4: haven't said a word about it to anyone in my family.
Speaker 4: So I'm literally just like keeping like biting my tongue,
Speaker 4: minding my business. And then one night my mom and
Speaker 4: sister went out of town. I was like seventeen, maybe
Speaker 4: almost eighteen at this point, and I my mom asked
Speaker 4: me to sleep in her bed because our dog slept
Speaker 4: in my mom's bed and she wanted me to keep
Speaker 4: the dog company. And so while my mom sister rut
Speaker 4: of town, I was sleeping in my mom's bed, in
Speaker 4: my mom's room. And the first night I'm there by myself,
Speaker 4: I'm laying in my mom's bed on the other side
Speaker 4: of the house. It's the middle of the night, I'm
Speaker 4: falling asleep, and outside of the window that is truly
Speaker 4: it's one of those windows. It's at the top of
Speaker 4: the ceiling like or top of the wall, just like
Speaker 4: below the ceiling, like literally the only purpose was to
Speaker 4: like let heat out or whatever on the other side
Speaker 4: of that window, which truly from the outside of the
Speaker 4: house is like ten feet off the ground. Three fucking taps,
Speaker 4: And so that happened. My mom came back into town
Speaker 4: a couple days later, and I was like, Hey, just
Speaker 4: out of curiosity, have you noticed anything like this? Have
Speaker 4: you heard like any of this tapping? And She's like like, no,
Speaker 4: that's so weird because my mom's not gonna like indulge me,
Speaker 4: and I swear to God. The next day. The next morning,
Speaker 4: she's like, Blake, I swear to God. Literally, as I
Speaker 4: was falling asleep last night, three taps at my window.
Speaker 4: And so this game sort of continues, and it happens
Speaker 4: to everyone in the family at different points, and it
Speaker 4: just sort of goes on for a while. And so
Speaker 4: around the same time, stuff starts getting more wild in
Speaker 4: the house, Like it'll be the middle of the night
Speaker 4: and we'll hear like cupboard slamming in the kitchen, or
Speaker 4: like footsteps, like pounding through the house. And there was
Speaker 4: one night where everyone in the family thought it was
Speaker 4: someone else doing it, like my sister and my mom
Speaker 4: thought it was me because it was coming from my
Speaker 4: side of the house. I thought it was my sister
Speaker 4: because she walked heavily, and like my sister thought it
Speaker 4: was me, and so we all had this moment of
Speaker 4: being like, oh, none of us were those footsteps. So I,
Speaker 4: at the time, was working. I was eighteen by this point,
Speaker 4: because I was working at Velvet Lounge in Santa Ana, California,
Speaker 4: doing costuming for at the time, Chanelle's show Wait a.
Speaker 2: Minute, that's the place that Jasmine Master says is haunted
Speaker 2: in the basement.
Speaker 4: Its sure as fuck is. And truly everybody who works
Speaker 4: there has stories about it. Like if you ask Dolly Levi,
Speaker 4: she will talk your ear off about it. Yeah because Dolly, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: because Dolly has literally like she said that she sat
Speaker 4: there and just fully had conversations with the little girl
Speaker 4: in the basement, and like it's this young girl who
Speaker 4: is really interested in like what we're doing, and she
Speaker 4: liked all of the shiny things and the sparkly things,
Speaker 4: and so she'll just sort of like stand around the
Speaker 4: dressing room and like watch us. But I heard someone
Speaker 4: say my name down there when I was the only
Speaker 4: person in that basement, and I thought it was someone
Speaker 4: like at the top of the stairs, like calling down
Speaker 4: to me, and so I ran across the basement and
Speaker 4: went like ran upstairs because there's a little hallway like
Speaker 4: right outside the door of the basement, and no one
Speaker 4: was standing in that hallway, And so I went out
Speaker 4: into like the main part of the club and went
Speaker 4: to our stage manager, who would have been a person
Speaker 4: who would yell down to me, and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 4: did you just call me? And she's like, no, I've
Speaker 4: been out here and I was like cool, great so,
Speaker 4: and stuff like that happened to us all the time,
Speaker 4: like props would go missing from the show and then
Speaker 4: just randomly show back up on different entertainers stations like
Speaker 4: cooky stuff. And so this one night I had worked there,
Speaker 4: I had come home late, it was probably like two
Speaker 4: forty five in the morning, and I like completely sober,
Speaker 4: get out of my car, like, walk up the door,
Speaker 4: unlock both of the doors, both a big heavy wooden
Speaker 4: door and the screen close, and lock both of them
Speaker 4: behind me, because that was something I really cared about,
Speaker 4: and I was like very meticulous about doing it. And
Speaker 4: so literally like locks the doors, ran in the corner,
Speaker 4: got in bed, fell asleep. Some time later, I awoken
Speaker 4: up by what literally sounded like a bomb going off
Speaker 4: in my living room, like the loudest just bang I
Speaker 4: have ever heard. Like it was as if you like
Speaker 4: slammed an incredibly heavy door closed with like all of
Speaker 4: the strength in your body, just this cacophonoust like bang.
Speaker 4: And so I jump out of bed and throw my
Speaker 4: bedroom door open, and my mom also had come out
Speaker 4: of her room and basically like met me in the
Speaker 4: living room at the same time, and we both looked
Speaker 4: at the front door, and both the screen and the
Speaker 4: heavy wooden door were completely open, like just busted open
Speaker 4: in completely different directions, just open. And I had like
Speaker 4: locked and dead both of them, like truly probably less
Speaker 4: than an hour before. And my mom literally was like,
Speaker 4: what were you doing? And I was like I was asleep,
Speaker 4: and she literally was like cool, and I just sort
Speaker 4: of turned around and went back into her bedroom.
Speaker 2: But that is so scary.
Speaker 4: It was wild. And so it was with the sort
Speaker 4: of like separation between because like there truly was this
Speaker 4: like loving, wonderful energy in that house, but it was
Speaker 4: also very much counteracted by this just like really dark,
Speaker 4: oppressive energy that sort of like it seemed almost like
Speaker 4: one was trying to get the other, like not to
Speaker 4: get like totally wooloo about it, but it seems like
Speaker 4: because there was such a loving, like glowing energy that
Speaker 4: I felt like came from Angela, whatever was sort of
Speaker 4: like suppressing her in her life, like maybe it was
Speaker 4: like a toxic relationship with her husband or something like that.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like that sort of oppression carried over
Speaker 4: and so both sort of existed in the.
Speaker 2: Space for Angela. She was all alone with it for
Speaker 2: ten years.
Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly it. And I feel like when energies
Speaker 4: are sort of just left in spaces like that, and
Speaker 4: we always say that, like our objects have energy, and
Speaker 4: like we sort of like put little bits of ourselves
Speaker 4: into all of the things we have. And that's the
Speaker 4: whole thing about like, you know, saved your vintage plays
Speaker 4: because you'll bring a ghost home, but like.
Speaker 2: All which I never do.
Speaker 4: Whoops, I know, right us. A bunch of my friends
Speaker 4: think that one of my selling machines is haunted because
Speaker 4: it's like in nineteen fifty one. It's anyway, it's a
Speaker 4: long story. But so all of your objects have energies,
Speaker 4: and so when they're just sort of left in a
Speaker 4: space that you like sort of physically no longer occupy,
Speaker 4: in a space that's just open, and like all of
Speaker 4: that energy is sort of just echoing and amplifying in
Speaker 4: that space for so long, Like no, shit, things are
Speaker 4: going to be crazy in it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what's the latest with the house?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 2: What's going on with the house now? Is your mom
Speaker 2: still there?
Speaker 4: No? We ended up selling it and moving out after
Speaker 4: only a couple of years because truly, my mom was
Speaker 4: like I just could never feel at home here, and
Speaker 4: I was did.
Speaker 2: You guys, did you guys tell like whoever you sold
Speaker 2: it to?
Speaker 4: We sure didn't. But I was talking, truly, I was
Speaker 4: talking to a psychic friend of mine about this because
Speaker 4: we both were just sitting We just love to sit
Speaker 4: around and talk about like the spiritual world and whatever,
Speaker 4: and we both were sort of just like going in
Speaker 4: on my house and sort of like just sort of
Speaker 4: like psychically investigating from afar, and we both at the
Speaker 4: same time came to the conclusion that like we sort
Speaker 4: of were the transitional face the phase that the house needed.
Speaker 4: And so like with us leaving, the energy sort of
Speaker 4: left as well. Like it did feel like as we
Speaker 4: were leaving, the place truly was like at zero, Like
Speaker 4: it was completely like there was nothing when we left,
Speaker 4: which I think is kind of wonderful because I think, like,
Speaker 4: if you want to like talk big picture, like perhaps
Speaker 4: us leaving also freed Angela and she was able to
Speaker 4: move on from.
Speaker 2: That, it would be nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so it was. It was super crazy, and
Speaker 4: it never stopped being crazy, Like it didn't come in
Speaker 4: phases like literally, it was just stuff like that all
Speaker 4: the time. So it was super fun.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house.
Speaker 2: Hi is this Jocelyn? Oh my god, this is roz Hi.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so happy to talk to you same.
Speaker 2: Where are you?
Speaker 1: I am in the Bay Area in Oakland?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I'm like really hoping to go up there and do
Speaker 2: a live show soon in like San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was hoping that would happen. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I'll be there, So.
Speaker 2: Tell me a ghost story. I heard you grew up
Speaker 2: in a haunted house.
Speaker 1: That's right, yes, And I was like racking my brain,
Speaker 1: like should I start with a haunted house because it's
Speaker 1: got many stories and they all lead to other stories.
Speaker 1: But I decided on actually experience that happened a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, not at my house, but yes, my
Speaker 1: home was very haunted, noises in the night, and I
Speaker 1: saw like a full body operation once as a child.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you the story that happened
Speaker 1: to me in Coullfax actually, Okay, And this is like
Speaker 1: a gold country like gold rush and a lot of
Speaker 1: like very disturbed energy, you know, like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that have happened in time back there with
Speaker 1: you know, Native land being stolen as well as just
Speaker 1: a lot of people being wild West about their gold.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the context of that land. And I
Speaker 1: was up there a couple of years ago visiting my
Speaker 1: aunt and family, and this one night I had gone
Speaker 1: to her house and she wasn't home yet, so I
Speaker 1: had gone to bed and staying in the guest room,
Speaker 1: and around like three o'clock in the morning, I woke
Speaker 1: up needing to go to the bathroom, and it's already
Speaker 1: like heads up, witchy hour, but I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 1: and I go out to the living room and there
Speaker 1: she is, and we talked for like a couple hours
Speaker 1: because we hadn't seen each other, and I ended up
Speaker 1: telling her some ghost stories that had happened, just like
Speaker 1: by coincidence. I was like, oh, did I ever tell
Speaker 1: you about the time? She's kind of a witchy lady,
Speaker 1: And so we were a couple of witches gabbing in
Speaker 1: the darkness by the fire and like putting that energy
Speaker 1: out there, I think, which might have been why what
Speaker 1: follows happened. So it was about now like five o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I'm like, okay, I better get
Speaker 1: some sleep before the sun comes up because it's hard
Speaker 1: to do that, and the sun starts writing. So I
Speaker 1: go back to that room and I'm getting all cozy
Speaker 1: and I start hearing this music playing. Now there's nothing
Speaker 1: in this room but books and her grandkid's toys, and
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this song playing like a full on rock symphony,
Speaker 1: like lots of instruments, very moody, and I'm like yes,
Speaker 1: like there was like car and like yes, Like this
Speaker 1: was like a very layered song. And I'm not a musician.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to play anything, but this thing
Speaker 1: seemed to be like playing in my ears, like as
Speaker 1: if I had earbuds in or something, like hearing this
Speaker 1: music very clearly. And then these lyrics started and they
Speaker 1: were all like real like emo and moody too, And
Speaker 1: this voice is like very rasty as it's singing, and
Speaker 1: I'm like entranced by it, like focusing so hard on
Speaker 1: these words because I'm like, I gotta tell her about
Speaker 1: this when I wake up, and you know, I got
Speaker 1: to tell my cousins and all this stuff. So I'm
Speaker 1: like focusing really closely on this music that's playing essentially
Speaker 1: in my head, it seems like. And then I realized
Speaker 1: So I'm laying there like kind of fetal position. Now,
Speaker 1: when you're relaxed and you have eur laying on your
Speaker 1: side with your feet on top of each other. I
Speaker 1: realized my feet were not touching the bed. They were
Speaker 1: like lifted from the bed. Yeah, And I'm like not
Speaker 1: and like I'm like, am I trippin', Like what's happening?
Speaker 1: So I try to like push my feet back down.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody listeners at home, try this,
Speaker 1: Lay on your side, put your feet together on top
Speaker 1: of each other, and lift them a few inches from
Speaker 1: the ground. And it takes like muscle strength totally have
Speaker 1: your feet in the air like that, even just a
Speaker 1: few inches like it was at the time, and I
Speaker 1: was comple relaxed. My body was not not a muscle
Speaker 1: was doing anything. And so I tried to push my
Speaker 1: feet down and it was impossible, and in fact, I
Speaker 1: felt a push back up like then they got lifted more,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy crap, Like I have never been
Speaker 1: touched by a ghost. In all the years of living
Speaker 1: in that my haunted home, never did did I feel
Speaker 1: anything physical. So this was like new.
Speaker 2: Was the top half of your body still on the bed.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was just my feet from like my ankles.
Speaker 1: It seemed like my something at my ankles was lifting
Speaker 1: it and so like that was the only part of
Speaker 1: me not touching the bed essentially, And then I guess
Speaker 1: a little bit more as they got lifted up more.
Speaker 1: So then I did this trick. And this is why
Speaker 1: I decided to this story because there's a this is
Speaker 1: a little helpful tip for people. If you ever watched
Speaker 1: Paranormal State, there was this psychic gone there that I've
Speaker 1: got this from Chip Coffee. Shout out to Chip. He
Speaker 1: would say, imagine a door closing. If ever you need
Speaker 1: to like push an entity away, imagine a door closing.
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, my feet got lifted up more.
Speaker 1: I started imagining a door closing, and I did the
Speaker 1: other strategy that always works for me is like trying
Speaker 1: to stay out loud to the ghost like back up
Speaker 1: or something or stop. So I'm imagining the door is closing.
Speaker 1: And then I tried to start to speak, and I'm
Speaker 1: realizing that I'm feeling like paralysis like I had also
Speaker 1: had not experienced before.
Speaker 2: So I have to like, but you hadn't even gone
Speaker 2: to sleep yet, right, No, I was dead awake.
Speaker 1: If that's how I knew that this was like not
Speaker 1: something that was my imagination, because I had just been
Speaker 1: up for like a wake for two hours and was
Speaker 1: just laying back down in bed. So yeah, then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have to say through gritted teeth basically stop it,
Speaker 1: and also again imagining the door closing, And that's when
Speaker 1: my feet got pulled and not just being lifted. It
Speaker 1: got pulled so much so my body like shifted and
Speaker 1: I was almost on my back, and then the music stopped.
Speaker 1: I realized I wasn't hearing the music anymore, and my
Speaker 1: feet went back down. But it was like after this
Speaker 1: big jolt of pulling up my legs and I'm like, like,
Speaker 1: what the just happened? It was intense.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so curious about this music too. This to
Speaker 2: me sounds like some creative publicity for some emo rock
Speaker 2: symphony band, Like here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna
Speaker 2: play our song in random people's homes. We're gonna send
Speaker 2: out a demon to pull people's legs.
Speaker 1: Right, maybe they could have sent the saunce, but no,
Speaker 1: like and nobody everybody's asleep in the house, like except
Speaker 1: for maybe my aunt might have not been asleep yet,
Speaker 1: but like there was like everything was dead quiet, and
Speaker 1: this is the woods, like there's nothing around, like some
Speaker 1: people don't even have internet in this area, but there
Speaker 1: is like a river nearby that's very like also like
Speaker 1: a kind of a charged energy. And my aunt has
Speaker 1: experienced a lot of crazy things on that property over
Speaker 1: the years of living there, so she was like not
Speaker 1: really that surprised, but also was like, whoa, Josh, that's creepy,
Speaker 1: Like what the heck?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck is that? That isn't that that's
Speaker 2: not a human right?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, like I was, as I've told the
Speaker 1: stories to people, some theories that we've gotten is like
Speaker 1: the fact that I was so entranced by the music,
Speaker 1: could it have been like a like a seductive type thing,
Speaker 1: like an incubus or something, you know, trying to like
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, put me into a hypnotic state.
Speaker 1: So then they could just like you know, because they
Speaker 1: were like gradually must have been lifting my feet as
Speaker 1: I fixated on this music and then it and then
Speaker 1: I just suddenly like realized I'm not feeling anything. There's
Speaker 1: like a breeze between my foot in the bed.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was Incubus with a foot fetish or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Quentin Tarantinos.
Speaker 2: Yes, there was that band, that band Incubus. Maybe they
Speaker 2: were trying to right, right, they were trying to trance
Speaker 2: you with their new hit songs.
Speaker 1: Well they were, they were getting me. The music was
Speaker 1: fire if I like, I've never heard it again, but
Speaker 1: it was like it was a good song, and it
Speaker 1: was like there was like, you know, words like bitch
Speaker 1: and kunt kind of being used in it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, this is edgy, Like where is
Speaker 1: this coming from?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did not get the radio edit. They did
Speaker 2: the full on parental Advisor right.
Speaker 1: Which also kind of makes me be like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it was like something other than a ghost, because
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of some weird energy.
Speaker 2: Oh so, but at this point you had had like
Speaker 2: a bunch of paranormal experiences, so yeah.
Speaker 1: My whole life, like as long as I could remember,
Speaker 1: there's been sounds in the house. I was like eight
Speaker 1: the time I first saw like a full body apparition.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen one since, but like, who was it?
Speaker 1: I have hadn't Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Who it was this if I let's see we have
Speaker 1: some time, I can try to tell you that story
Speaker 1: because it's kind of quick. But like so in my house,
Speaker 1: it's like three stories, sort of like the if you
Speaker 1: count the basement, which is not completely underground. So I
Speaker 1: was up on the top level and I shared a
Speaker 1: bedroom with two other siblings, and I was on the
Speaker 1: bunk bed bottom bunk, and I don't know what time
Speaker 1: it was when I woke up, but it was like
Speaker 1: the dead of night, and for some reason, I wake
Speaker 1: up and I just lift my head from my pillow
Speaker 1: and I look out the wind the door to the hallway,
Speaker 1: and there's a full on person standing there, but like
Speaker 1: profile to me, like they're not facing me, they're staring
Speaker 1: at the wall. But they're also like they're wearing all
Speaker 1: white and it's like a very straight cut like white
Speaker 1: all the way to the ground, long sleeves, and they
Speaker 1: have very long black hair that like goes to their
Speaker 1: knees or something. Okay, here it gets a little creepier.
Speaker 1: They're wearing a blindfold. Wow, blindfold? Yes, So then like
Speaker 1: after you know, I don't know, it feels like an eternity,
Speaker 1: but maybe it was just like thirty seconds or a minute.
Speaker 1: But they then reach back behind their head and start
Speaker 1: to untie the blindfold, and then they start pulling that
Speaker 1: line and they're holding it like hot in front of
Speaker 1: their eyes, like still tight but over their eyes, and
Speaker 1: like just like a straight line of cloth. And then
Speaker 1: still holding it over their eyes, they start to turn
Speaker 1: their head towards me, still having it over their eyes,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the next thing is the blindfold coming down.
Speaker 1: And I did not want to see what was behind
Speaker 1: the blindfold. You know, I'm like seven and eight years old,
Speaker 1: and even at this time, I've known some things about
Speaker 1: like you know, oh Native Americans to say the eyes
Speaker 1: are the windows to the soul and all these things,
Speaker 1: and like we live on a lonely land and there's
Speaker 1: a whole lot of tragedy that must come from that.
Speaker 1: And so I was just sure that there was going
Speaker 1: to be something behind those eyes that I didn't feel
Speaker 1: ready for. And so I shoved my head down into
Speaker 1: my pillow and was like, go to sleep, Go to sleep,
Speaker 1: go to sleep, and didn't look back until the morning.
Speaker 1: But now can't Yeah, I mean that's sleeping my door
Speaker 1: open anymore.
Speaker 2: Ever since, yes, I just like four now, and I like,
Speaker 2: I just completely like the imagery you just gave me
Speaker 2: was amazing, Like you just told that so well because
Speaker 2: I can like totally picture this and it sounds like
Speaker 2: something terrifying from a horror movie. I'm sorry you experienced
Speaker 2: that at such a young age.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not because, like I you know, I've always
Speaker 1: felt like maybe my veil is kind of thin. I
Speaker 1: had like a near death experiences of like a week
Speaker 1: old baby, and so like maybe I didn't I have
Speaker 1: a very thin veil. Yeah, but uh yeah, it was
Speaker 1: definitely like something I can remember, like it happened yesterday,
Speaker 1: and and I've had things just continue even when I
Speaker 1: haven't been at that house like elsewhere in other parts
Speaker 1: of the world. So yeah, I'm so glad I got
Speaker 1: to tell you that story because like I was, like,
Speaker 1: I can't write this story in I need to say
Speaker 1: these words. Yeah, like it really doesn't sell it to
Speaker 1: just like write it. So thank you for having a
Speaker 1: chance for us to call in.
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