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Speaker 2: Ben and Youki, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming

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Speaker 2: Hi, ros Dress Eve Please hey boo, it's me Roz

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Speaker 2: Dress Flees. It is time for another listener episode, which

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love. This is, I guess now the third

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Speaker 2: So please just send me a ghost story in an email.

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Speaker 2: And even if I have, like you know, if you

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Speaker 2: one of these listener episodes. I have big news before

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Speaker 2: we get into it. The next live Ghosted in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: California will be on the twenty first of January. It's

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday, and the show is at eight pm and

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Speaker 2: it is also at the Cavern Club Celebrity Theater at

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Speaker 2: the world famous restaurant Casita del Campo in Silver Lake,

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Speaker 2: which is the same place that we did the first

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Speaker 2: live show. And I have Alessandra Torresani recent podcast guest.

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Speaker 2: just send me a message. I'll send you the link. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's listen to some listeners. I've been ghosted too. Is

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Speaker 2: this Christina? This is how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I just got home from work, so I'm

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Speaker 3: like I was awaiting your call and I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Where are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool, I actually have never been to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Tom, you'd love.

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Speaker 2: It live show me.

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Speaker 2: Uh, okay, what are we talking about today.

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about my dad's house. Okay, So,

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Speaker 3: like I said, I'm from Pittsburgh, and my family, especially

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Speaker 3: so we're all super intuitive, has had like experiences. I

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Speaker 3: mean since I was a kid, I like, similar to you,

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, so we are all like that, and

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Speaker 3: I know that my yeah right, yeah, and I know

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Speaker 3: Like my grandfather grew up in this house, so it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so's it's not so that it's been in the

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Speaker 2: But anyway, what are what's the who is there a

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Speaker 3: So the experience that I know of, but well, there's

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we were like, we're like, Dad, what's wrongs? Like,

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Speaker 3: And he looks over in the corner and he sees

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Speaker 3: So like he's he's yeah, he's one of those guys

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Speaker 3: and so it was like, oh my god, like it

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Speaker 3: he starts and I danced. My grandfather said Happy father Day.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: So it's like a Father's Day gift visit, like from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a mic drop moment where

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Speaker 3: Bye? Question, Yes exactly, like you know, you have to

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Speaker 3: it's your grandfather's Like I don't care, you know, I

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Speaker 3: He understands. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the thing I always say about that kind of

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Speaker 2: right now in California. My grandfather lives in Michigan. In

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Speaker 3: You get it. It's just like you know, and I

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Speaker 3: I don't care come and see me like at all.

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Speaker 3: freaky things that have happened in that house us. Well, okay,

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Speaker 3: so there's a story that right after my grandfather's passed,

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Speaker 2: That's what you got to set up cameras everywhere, because

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Speaker 2: But why, like, why does that need to happen, well.

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Speaker 3: Right, and okay, so like then another story, my uncle,

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Speaker 2: That is such a like classic ghost move. Like eveil

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Speaker 2: that bed and Breakfast that I stayed at, there were

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Speaker 2: so many stories of that, like oh you can just

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Speaker 3: Like why does it have to be two?

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Speaker 2: Am you know well. And another thing is like you

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Speaker 2: But so I feel like, oh, sure, like I would

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Speaker 3: You and me, Yeah, it was. It was crazy. And

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Speaker 3: now what my dad has always said. First, my dad

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Speaker 3: the ones people think they're like nuts, but it's obviously

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Speaker 2: Whoa, that's really cool.

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Speaker 5: I'm calling from Sacramento, California.

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Speaker 5: All right, so I'm going to be telling you about

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Speaker 6: Okay, sounds a little bit crazy.

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Speaker 2: Said you can start a business.

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Speaker 1: I considered it.

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Speaker 5: I want I could make some good money ghosted listeners.

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Speaker 2: Hit me up totally. If you live in the Sacramento

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Speaker 6: Hit me up in the Facebook group.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so, okay, what happened?

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Speaker 2: WHOA interesting. So would you would you be open to

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I would love to.

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Speaker 6: I would love to do exorcisms too.

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Speaker 5: I've always felt really drew into that, and I've actually

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Speaker 6: And I've been working on kind of opening myself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe in a few years.

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Speaker 5: I wish I was as fearless at twenty four as

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Speaker 5: Enough tongue pops you could probably get a demon out

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Speaker 5: Yes, I did work at a haunted cookie factory. So

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Speaker 5: So we were working night shift one night and my boss,

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00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 5: who had had the most experiences, he was actually one

442
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 5: of the owners of the company. He was standing there,

443
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 5: he was facing us, and all of us were facing him,

444
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 5: just working, and all of a sudden, I look up,

445
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 5: and for lack.

446
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 6: Of a better word, it looked like he had seen

447
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 6: a ghost.

448
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: His face had just gone sheet white, and as soon

449
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 5: as I looked at him, he looked away. So I said,

450
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: what was it, what's going on? And he said nothing, nothing,

451
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 5: And he would not tell us because he didn't want

452
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 5: to scare us. So finally we got it out of him,

453
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 5: and he said, the little girl was behind you guys,

454
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: So of course internal panic immediate. Apparently there's a little

455
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: girl that haunts the factory and she like there's a

456
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 5: spiral where the cookie is cool off, and she likes

457
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: to sit cross legged right in the middle and just

458
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 5: stare at people.

459
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, ghosts are cold, so maybe she was

460
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: helping cool off the cookie. Ye oh yeah, or that

461
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: yeah she, But I mean if if if I was

462
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: a child, that might be terrible because she probably can't

463
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: eat the cookies.

464
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: Ah yes, And well the cookies were terrible.

465
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 5: Anyway, oh okay, because it was a bonus for her.

466
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 5: But there was an old man ghost all so that

467
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 5: would follow people around. And once he had there was

468
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 5: one guy left in the building and he was shutting

469
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 5: everything down and he could like he would turn his

470
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 5: head and he would see somebody run behind him. And

471
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 5: it was happening the whole time. And this is a

472
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 5: big factory, so it's creepy when the lights are shut out.

473
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 5: And eventually he got everything shut out and ran out

474
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: so fast. He sent us a picture of himself on

475
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 5: the freeway, saying I'm never going back there by myself again.

476
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 6: Oh my god, A grown man skeptic. Yeah, did not believe.

477
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: In ghosts, so safe to say those cookies had a little.

478
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 6: Extra spooky ingredients to that.

479
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you? Did you personally ever encounter them?

480
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: Though?

481
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 5: I never got to physically see them, but I did

482
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 5: get to hear some fun things. So I was I

483
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 5: had come late, and so during a break, I stayed

484
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 5: behind and everyone else went to break. So I was

485
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 5: sitting there sweeping and it was completely silent, and there's

486
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 5: a metal detector where if a cookie goes under it

487
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: that has metal in it, it'll bang open and.

488
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 6: Drop up all the cookies out.

489
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 5: However, there were no cookies. Nothing was on, and all

490
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 5: of a sudden, this mis machine just starts going bang

491
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 5: bang bang bang over and over again. And so I

492
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 5: turned to look at it, and as soon as I

493
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 5: looked at it, it stopped, and so I walked towards it.

494
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 5: I said, Okay, I feel like you guys are here,

495
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 5: so just so you know I'm here to play, you know,

496
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: come on out. And so I heard a laugh from

497
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: the other side of the room and turned around just

498
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 5: in time to see a shadow go by the corner

499
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: of my eye, So I it could have been my imagination,

500
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 5: but I am a wholehearted believer, and I there were ghosts,

501
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: So I'm saying the ghost paid me a visit.

502
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, so the ghost laughed.

503
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 6: Yes, I heard a.

504
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 5: Little kid laugh, and we knew that there was a

505
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 5: little girl. And then I turned and out of the

506
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: corner of my eye saw a shadow run away.

507
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: But didn't you also say that at the other place,

508
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: the exorcism, that demon laughed.

509
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: Yes.

510
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 5: I don't know why all of these spiritual creatures are

511
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: laughing at me, but I'm not a fan.

512
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you must be hilarious. And like the ghost world

513
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: and the and the you could be like a headlining

514
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: comedian in the in the spiritual realm.

515
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 5: Yes, I will headline hell as.

516
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: Soon as I get there, because yes, sounds like you're

517
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: just killing out there. Wow, a haunted cookie factory. That's

518
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: very and this is up and Sacramento.

519
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 4: Yes it is.

520
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 5: It's a family run business called Spawn's Cookies.

521
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: Shout out to Spawns. I said, your cookies are terrible.

522
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: Yes, And so everybody knows about the ghost. I became

523
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: the ghost welcomers. So people would come in that the

524
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 5: new employees, and I would be the first one to

525
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 5: tell them all the ghost stories everyone had had and

526
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 5: make sure they were nice and spooked. We named the

527
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: little girl, I believe they named her Clarissa, and so

528
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: we would talk to her sometimes just seeing if she

529
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: was around.

530
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 6: Ohelets to mess with people, though.

531
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 5: Ovens would go off at weird times when the machine

532
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: worked right.

533
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's Haunted Cookie Factory.

534
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: I feel like every haunted job has to have that

535
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: one ghost ambassador. The person that you know is like, oh,

536
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: you're new around here, Well have you encountered Clarissa yet?

537
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: What who's that you'll see? I love that That's.

538
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 5: Almost exactly how every one of those interactions went down.

539
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: So yes, I'm the ghost Ambassador and I'm putting that

540
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 5: on my resume.

541
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Along with House Exorcist, teenage Home Exorcist. Well this is great.

542
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: I'm so happy I got to talk to you.

543
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for calling you or fulfilling my

544
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 5: dream of being on a podcast. This is a weird

545
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 5: dream I've had for a very long time.

546
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: Oh yay. Well, if you happen to, you know, encounter

547
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: any other ghosts or exercise any other houses. Hit me

548
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: up and we can have you back on.

549
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, thank you so much.

550
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: Is this Blake? Hi Blake? So we're recording already. Where

551
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: are you calling from?

552
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: I am currently calling from Nashville, Tennessee.

553
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 2: What are you doing in Nashville?

554
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: I am a costume designer professionally out here, I work

555
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: for a theater company. But I do so many different things.

556
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: I'm a drag queen myself. I'm a caro reader. I

557
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: obviously do clothes. I'm a wig maker. I wear several hats.

558
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: Wow, you keep busy.

559
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: That's an understatement.

560
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: And you're also someone that has experienced ghosts.

561
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: I have. I have so many stories.

562
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: So let's hear about the ghosts of Fullerton, California.

563
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: Oo.

564
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: I am originally from Anahom. I grew up literally right

565
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 4: behind Disneyland, like the parking structures on the corner Ball

566
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: and Walnut basically, and I lived on the other side

567
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: of that intersection.

568
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: So do you just hear fireworks all night?

569
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: Completely? Like I could literally see them from my bedroom window. Wow.

570
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: And that house had like some spooky things, but it

571
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: was never what I would really call like haunted. And

572
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: then we decided we were moving and so my mom

573
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: set up. This was when I was sixteen or seventeen.

574
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: My mom's thought up viewing of this house that she

575
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: had told me about. She told me I would love

576
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: it because it's all vintage on the inside. It's from

577
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: like it was remodeled in like the seventies, and so

578
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: everything's avocado green and super chic. Oh my god, obsessed now.

579
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: The thing that she didn't tell me is that the

580
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: house had sat empty for eleven years before we moved in.

581
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: And the reason that it had sat like unoccupied for

582
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: those eleven years is because the previous owner had passed

583
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: away and her kids, who the house basically fell onto,

584
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: didn't want to deal with it, and so they just

585
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: left it unoccupied. So we were the first people to

586
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: do a viewing of the house period, And when we

587
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: walked in, Roz, I swear to god, it literally was

588
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: like the day that the previous owner had passed away,

589
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: Like her mail was still on the counter, like her

590
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 4: were still in the cupboards, her clothes were still in

591
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: the closet, like the whole deal. And so we were like,

592
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: this is a strange, like little time capsule moment.

593
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Was anybody like dusting it or anything.

594
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: No.

595
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: It literally was just like it was like the door

596
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: had closed when she died and then they opened it

597
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: and let us in. WHOA, Like yeah, it was like

598
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 4: retrospectively spooky. At the time, I was like young and stupid,

599
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: was like this is so neat. So we ended up

600
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: buying the house and I moved in before the rest

601
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: of my family because they were still packing up at

602
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: the previous house, and so I was in the house

603
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: for like four days by myself, and literally right away

604
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: I was like, this feels kind of weird. And it's

605
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: one of those old houses with wooden floors that like

606
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: have a lot of space underneath the wooden floor, so

607
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: like all steps really echo through the house. You can

608
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: really hear everything. And so my first couple of nights,

609
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 4: I like started to hear what I thought were like

610
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 4: maybe footsteps around the house, but I was like, no,

611
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: maybe not. And so time like kind of went by.

612
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: It was sort of like pretty low key for a while,

613
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 4: and then I started doing a lot of cooking in

614
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: the kitchen and it still had the original avocado green

615
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: stove in it, and I was like baking something one

616
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: day and I pulled the stove or the oven door open,

617
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: and I noticed right next to the oven, in a

618
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: space between the oven and the counter next to it,

619
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: there was this little like wooden stick thing hanging on

620
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: a nail on the cupboard, and so I picked it

621
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: up and pulled it out, and it was this like

622
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: hand carved wooden thing used for pulling wrecks out of

623
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: the oven. But it had the name Angela burned into it,

624
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: and Angela was the name of the woman who owned

625
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: the house who passed away, and so I was like, oh,

626
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: that's kind of me, and so I literally just put

627
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: it back and I was like, I'm going to leave

628
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: this here like as just sort of a way to

629
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: like honor her and like be respectful of her space.

630
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: And right after that happened and I had that moment,

631
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: stuff really started kicking up in the kitchen, so like

632
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: I would be in there, my dog would be at

633
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: my feet, and like a ball would just roll across

634
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: the floor from the other side of the room towards

635
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: my dog, like just completely out of nowhere. But like

636
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: most of the time when I was in the kitchen cooking,

637
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: it was just sort of this really warm presence, just

638
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: very full of love, Like it felt like she was

639
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 4: really there with me and really liked what we were doing.

640
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: With the space.

641
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: However, there was a separate entity in that house that

642
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: was not very nice.

643
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: And it one sorry say what now?

644
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 4: Uh huh? So this one was retrospectively, I'm not sure

645
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 4: this one was ever human, Like It's one of those

646
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: things that had such a darkness to it where I

647
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: was like, I never was one to be like it's demons,

648
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: but like it might be demons. Why so it started.

649
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: I used to have this group of friends and we

650
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: would skype every single night, and like we would just

651
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: get home from school or whatever. None of us lived

652
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: near each other, We'd all met like online randomly, and

653
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: so we would just like get home from school, open

654
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: our laptops, and the sky call would or to be running.

655
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: We would just jump in and out of it and

656
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 4: we would talk from like literally getting home from school

657
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: until like four in the morning sometimes. And so one

658
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: of these nights, I was lying in bed and there's

659
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: a big window next to the bed that I'm staying

660
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: or next to the bed in my bedroom, and I'm

661
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: laying there it's like three am, which you know, I'm

662
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: on Skype with all of my friends and literally like

663
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: clear as day on the other side, like from the window,

664
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: I heard what's kind of like a fingernail tap three times,

665
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: tap top tap on the window, and it froze me

666
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: like ice went through my veins. I was like, I

667
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: am done, I'm done, and I literally like closed my laptop,

668
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: rolled over and was just like I'm going to sleep now.

669
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: And now do we think Angela had some sickening acrylic

670
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: nails or do we think it was a demon claw?

671
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: She was like standing on the other side smoking a

672
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: cigarette out of a cigarette holder and just tap tap tup.

673
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: But it could be a demon claw as well, which

674
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: are easy to mistake.

675
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: Well, and they say too, And I didn't know this

676
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: at the time that like tap tapping in threes and

677
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: sixes is supposedly like of the devil, Like if you

678
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: hear like knocks and things, usually it's okay unless it

679
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: comes in like threes or sixes. I don't know. So

680
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: this happens truly, probably like four more times, and I

681
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 4: haven't said a word about it to anyone in my family.

682
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: So I'm literally just like keeping like biting my tongue,

683
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: minding my business. And then one night my mom and

684
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: sister went out of town. I was like seventeen, maybe

685
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: almost eighteen at this point, and I my mom asked

686
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: me to sleep in her bed because our dog slept

687
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: in my mom's bed and she wanted me to keep

688
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: the dog company. And so while my mom sister rut

689
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: of town, I was sleeping in my mom's bed, in

690
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: my mom's room. And the first night I'm there by myself,

691
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: I'm laying in my mom's bed on the other side

692
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: of the house. It's the middle of the night, I'm

693
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 4: falling asleep, and outside of the window that is truly

694
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: it's one of those windows. It's at the top of

695
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: the ceiling like or top of the wall, just like

696
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: below the ceiling, like literally the only purpose was to

697
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 4: like let heat out or whatever on the other side

698
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: of that window, which truly from the outside of the

699
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: house is like ten feet off the ground. Three fucking taps,

700
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 4: And so that happened. My mom came back into town

701
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: a couple days later, and I was like, Hey, just

702
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: out of curiosity, have you noticed anything like this? Have

703
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: you heard like any of this tapping? And She's like like, no,

704
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: that's so weird because my mom's not gonna like indulge me,

705
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: and I swear to God. The next day. The next morning,

706
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: she's like, Blake, I swear to God. Literally, as I

707
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: was falling asleep last night, three taps at my window.

708
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: And so this game sort of continues, and it happens

709
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: to everyone in the family at different points, and it

710
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: just sort of goes on for a while. And so

711
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: around the same time, stuff starts getting more wild in

712
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: the house, Like it'll be the middle of the night

713
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: and we'll hear like cupboard slamming in the kitchen, or

714
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: like footsteps, like pounding through the house. And there was

715
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: one night where everyone in the family thought it was

716
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: someone else doing it, like my sister and my mom

717
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 4: thought it was me because it was coming from my

718
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 4: side of the house. I thought it was my sister

719
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: because she walked heavily, and like my sister thought it

720
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: was me, and so we all had this moment of

721
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: being like, oh, none of us were those footsteps. So I,

722
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: at the time, was working. I was eighteen by this point,

723
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: because I was working at Velvet Lounge in Santa Ana, California,

724
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: doing costuming for at the time, Chanelle's show Wait a.

725
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Minute, that's the place that Jasmine Master says is haunted

726
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: in the basement.

727
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 4: Its sure as fuck is. And truly everybody who works

728
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: there has stories about it. Like if you ask Dolly Levi,

729
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: she will talk your ear off about it. Yeah because Dolly, well, yeah,

730
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: because Dolly has literally like she said that she sat

731
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: there and just fully had conversations with the little girl

732
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 4: in the basement, and like it's this young girl who

733
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: is really interested in like what we're doing, and she

734
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: liked all of the shiny things and the sparkly things,

735
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: and so she'll just sort of like stand around the

736
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 4: dressing room and like watch us. But I heard someone

737
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: say my name down there when I was the only

738
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 4: person in that basement, and I thought it was someone

739
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: like at the top of the stairs, like calling down

740
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: to me, and so I ran across the basement and

741
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: went like ran upstairs because there's a little hallway like

742
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 4: right outside the door of the basement, and no one

743
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: was standing in that hallway, And so I went out

744
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: into like the main part of the club and went

745
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: to our stage manager, who would have been a person

746
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: who would yell down to me, and I was like, Hey,

747
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: did you just call me? And she's like, no, I've

748
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: been out here and I was like cool, great so,

749
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: and stuff like that happened to us all the time,

750
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: like props would go missing from the show and then

751
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: just randomly show back up on different entertainers stations like

752
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: cooky stuff. And so this one night I had worked there,

753
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: I had come home late, it was probably like two

754
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: forty five in the morning, and I like completely sober,

755
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: get out of my car, like, walk up the door,

756
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: unlock both of the doors, both a big heavy wooden

757
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: door and the screen close, and lock both of them

758
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: behind me, because that was something I really cared about,

759
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: and I was like very meticulous about doing it. And

760
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: so literally like locks the doors, ran in the corner,

761
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: got in bed, fell asleep. Some time later, I awoken

762
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 4: up by what literally sounded like a bomb going off

763
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 4: in my living room, like the loudest just bang I

764
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: have ever heard. Like it was as if you like

765
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: slammed an incredibly heavy door closed with like all of

766
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: the strength in your body, just this cacophonoust like bang.

767
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: And so I jump out of bed and throw my

768
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 4: bedroom door open, and my mom also had come out

769
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: of her room and basically like met me in the

770
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: living room at the same time, and we both looked

771
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: at the front door, and both the screen and the

772
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: heavy wooden door were completely open, like just busted open

773
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 4: in completely different directions, just open. And I had like

774
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: locked and dead both of them, like truly probably less

775
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 4: than an hour before. And my mom literally was like,

776
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: what were you doing? And I was like I was asleep,

777
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 4: and she literally was like cool, and I just sort

778
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: of turned around and went back into her bedroom.

779
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: But that is so scary.

780
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 4: It was wild. And so it was with the sort

781
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: of like separation between because like there truly was this

782
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: like loving, wonderful energy in that house, but it was

783
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 4: also very much counteracted by this just like really dark,

784
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: oppressive energy that sort of like it seemed almost like

785
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: one was trying to get the other, like not to

786
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: get like totally wooloo about it, but it seems like

787
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: because there was such a loving, like glowing energy that

788
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: I felt like came from Angela, whatever was sort of

789
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: like suppressing her in her life, like maybe it was

790
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: like a toxic relationship with her husband or something like that.

791
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: Like I feel like that sort of oppression carried over

792
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: and so both sort of existed in the.

793
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Space for Angela. She was all alone with it for

794
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: ten years.

795
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly it. And I feel like when energies

796
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 4: are sort of just left in spaces like that, and

797
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: we always say that, like our objects have energy, and

798
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: like we sort of like put little bits of ourselves

799
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: into all of the things we have. And that's the

800
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: whole thing about like, you know, saved your vintage plays

801
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 4: because you'll bring a ghost home, but like.

802
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: All which I never do.

803
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: Whoops, I know, right us. A bunch of my friends

804
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 4: think that one of my selling machines is haunted because

805
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: it's like in nineteen fifty one. It's anyway, it's a

806
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: long story. But so all of your objects have energies,

807
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: and so when they're just sort of left in a

808
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 4: space that you like sort of physically no longer occupy,

809
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: in a space that's just open, and like all of

810
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: that energy is sort of just echoing and amplifying in

811
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: that space for so long, Like no, shit, things are

812
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: going to be crazy in it. Yeah.

813
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: So what's the latest with the house?

814
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: Sorry?

815
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: What's going on with the house now? Is your mom

816
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: still there?

817
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 4: No? We ended up selling it and moving out after

818
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: only a couple of years because truly, my mom was

819
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: like I just could never feel at home here, and

820
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 4: I was did.

821
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: You guys, did you guys tell like whoever you sold

822
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: it to?

823
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: We sure didn't. But I was talking, truly, I was

824
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 4: talking to a psychic friend of mine about this because

825
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: we both were just sitting We just love to sit

826
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: around and talk about like the spiritual world and whatever,

827
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: and we both were sort of just like going in

828
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: on my house and sort of like just sort of

829
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: like psychically investigating from afar, and we both at the

830
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: same time came to the conclusion that like we sort

831
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: of were the transitional face the phase that the house needed.

832
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: And so like with us leaving, the energy sort of

833
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: left as well. Like it did feel like as we

834
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: were leaving, the place truly was like at zero, Like

835
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: it was completely like there was nothing when we left,

836
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: which I think is kind of wonderful because I think, like,

837
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: if you want to like talk big picture, like perhaps

838
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: us leaving also freed Angela and she was able to

839
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: move on from.

840
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: That, it would be nice.

841
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so it was. It was super crazy, and

842
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: it never stopped being crazy, Like it didn't come in

843
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: phases like literally, it was just stuff like that all

844
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 4: the time. So it was super fun.

845
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house.

846
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: Hi is this Jocelyn? Oh my god, this is roz Hi.

847
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: How are you?

848
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so happy to talk to you same.

849
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Where are you?

850
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: I am in the Bay Area in Oakland?

851
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

852
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm like really hoping to go up there and do

853
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: a live show soon in like San Francisco.

854
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I was hoping that would happen. I can't wait.

855
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll be there, So.

856
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: Tell me a ghost story. I heard you grew up

857
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: in a haunted house.

858
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: That's right, yes, And I was like racking my brain,

859
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: like should I start with a haunted house because it's

860
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: got many stories and they all lead to other stories.

861
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: But I decided on actually experience that happened a couple

862
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: of years ago, not at my house, but yes, my

863
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: home was very haunted, noises in the night, and I

864
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: saw like a full body operation once as a child.

865
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you the story that happened

866
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: to me in Coullfax actually, Okay, And this is like

867
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: a gold country like gold rush and a lot of

868
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: like very disturbed energy, you know, like there's a lot

869
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: of things that have happened in time back there with

870
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, Native land being stolen as well as just

871
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people being wild West about their gold.

872
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the context of that land. And I

873
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: was up there a couple of years ago visiting my

874
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: aunt and family, and this one night I had gone

875
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: to her house and she wasn't home yet, so I

876
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: had gone to bed and staying in the guest room,

877
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: and around like three o'clock in the morning, I woke

878
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: up needing to go to the bathroom, and it's already

879
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: like heads up, witchy hour, but I wasn't thinking about

880
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: and I go out to the living room and there

881
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: she is, and we talked for like a couple hours

882
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: because we hadn't seen each other, and I ended up

883
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: telling her some ghost stories that had happened, just like

884
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: by coincidence. I was like, oh, did I ever tell

885
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: you about the time? She's kind of a witchy lady,

886
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: And so we were a couple of witches gabbing in

887
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: the darkness by the fire and like putting that energy

888
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: out there, I think, which might have been why what

889
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: follows happened. So it was about now like five o'clock

890
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I'm like, okay, I better get

891
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: some sleep before the sun comes up because it's hard

892
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: to do that, and the sun starts writing. So I

893
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: go back to that room and I'm getting all cozy

894
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: and I start hearing this music playing. Now there's nothing

895
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: in this room but books and her grandkid's toys, and

896
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm hearing this song playing like a full on rock symphony,

897
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: like lots of instruments, very moody, and I'm like yes,

898
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: like there was like car and like yes, Like this

899
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: was like a very layered song. And I'm not a musician.

900
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how to play anything, but this thing

901
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: seemed to be like playing in my ears, like as

902
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: if I had earbuds in or something, like hearing this

903
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: music very clearly. And then these lyrics started and they

904
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: were all like real like emo and moody too, And

905
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: this voice is like very rasty as it's singing, and

906
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm like entranced by it, like focusing so hard on

907
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: these words because I'm like, I gotta tell her about

908
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: this when I wake up, and you know, I got

909
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: to tell my cousins and all this stuff. So I'm

910
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: like focusing really closely on this music that's playing essentially

911
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: in my head, it seems like. And then I realized

912
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: So I'm laying there like kind of fetal position. Now,

913
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: when you're relaxed and you have eur laying on your

914
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: side with your feet on top of each other. I

915
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: realized my feet were not touching the bed. They were

916
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: like lifted from the bed. Yeah, And I'm like not

917
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: and like I'm like, am I trippin', Like what's happening?

918
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: So I try to like push my feet back down.

919
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody listeners at home, try this,

920
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Lay on your side, put your feet together on top

921
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: of each other, and lift them a few inches from

922
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: the ground. And it takes like muscle strength totally have

923
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: your feet in the air like that, even just a

924
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: few inches like it was at the time, and I

925
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: was comple relaxed. My body was not not a muscle

926
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: was doing anything. And so I tried to push my

927
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: feet down and it was impossible, and in fact, I

928
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: felt a push back up like then they got lifted more,

929
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, holy crap, Like I have never been

930
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: touched by a ghost. In all the years of living

931
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: in that my haunted home, never did did I feel

932
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: anything physical. So this was like new.

933
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: Was the top half of your body still on the bed.

934
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was just my feet from like my ankles.

935
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: It seemed like my something at my ankles was lifting

936
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: it and so like that was the only part of

937
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: me not touching the bed essentially, And then I guess

938
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more as they got lifted up more.

939
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: So then I did this trick. And this is why

940
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: I decided to this story because there's a this is

941
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: a little helpful tip for people. If you ever watched

942
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Paranormal State, there was this psychic gone there that I've

943
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: got this from Chip Coffee. Shout out to Chip. He

944
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: would say, imagine a door closing. If ever you need

945
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: to like push an entity away, imagine a door closing.

946
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, my feet got lifted up more.

947
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: I started imagining a door closing, and I did the

948
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: other strategy that always works for me is like trying

949
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: to stay out loud to the ghost like back up

950
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: or something or stop. So I'm imagining the door is closing.

951
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: And then I tried to start to speak, and I'm

952
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: realizing that I'm feeling like paralysis like I had also

953
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: had not experienced before.

954
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: So I have to like, but you hadn't even gone

955
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: to sleep yet, right, No, I was dead awake.

956
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: If that's how I knew that this was like not

957
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: something that was my imagination, because I had just been

958
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: up for like a wake for two hours and was

959
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: just laying back down in bed. So yeah, then I'm like,

960
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: I have to say through gritted teeth basically stop it,

961
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: and also again imagining the door closing, And that's when

962
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: my feet got pulled and not just being lifted. It

963
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: got pulled so much so my body like shifted and

964
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: I was almost on my back, and then the music stopped.

965
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: I realized I wasn't hearing the music anymore, and my

966
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: feet went back down. But it was like after this

967
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: big jolt of pulling up my legs and I'm like, like,

968
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: what the just happened? It was intense.

969
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: What.

970
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so curious about this music too. This to

971
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: me sounds like some creative publicity for some emo rock

972
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: symphony band, Like here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

973
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: play our song in random people's homes. We're gonna send

974
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: out a demon to pull people's legs.

975
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: Right, maybe they could have sent the saunce, but no,

976
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: like and nobody everybody's asleep in the house, like except

977
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: for maybe my aunt might have not been asleep yet,

978
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: but like there was like everything was dead quiet, and

979
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: this is the woods, like there's nothing around, like some

980
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: people don't even have internet in this area, but there

981
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: is like a river nearby that's very like also like

982
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: a kind of a charged energy. And my aunt has

983
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: experienced a lot of crazy things on that property over

984
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: the years of living there, so she was like not

985
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: really that surprised, but also was like, whoa, Josh, that's creepy,

986
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Like what the heck?

987
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the heck is that? That isn't that that's

988
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: not a human right?

989
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, like I was, as I've told the

990
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: stories to people, some theories that we've gotten is like

991
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: the fact that I was so entranced by the music,

992
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: could it have been like a like a seductive type thing,

993
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: like an incubus or something, you know, trying to like

994
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, put me into a hypnotic state.

995
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: So then they could just like you know, because they

996
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: were like gradually must have been lifting my feet as

997
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: I fixated on this music and then it and then

998
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: I just suddenly like realized I'm not feeling anything. There's

999
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: like a breeze between my foot in the bed.

1000
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was Incubus with a foot fetish or.

1001
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Quentin Tarantinos.

1002
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: Yes, there was that band, that band Incubus. Maybe they

1003
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: were trying to right, right, they were trying to trance

1004
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: you with their new hit songs.

1005
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: Well they were, they were getting me. The music was

1006
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: fire if I like, I've never heard it again, but

1007
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: it was like it was a good song, and it

1008
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: was like there was like, you know, words like bitch

1009
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: and kunt kind of being used in it, and I

1010
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, this is edgy, Like where is

1011
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: this coming from?

1012
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did not get the radio edit. They did

1013
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: the full on parental Advisor right.

1014
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: Which also kind of makes me be like, you know,

1015
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe it was like something other than a ghost, because

1016
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's kind of some weird energy.

1017
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: Oh so, but at this point you had had like

1018
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of paranormal experiences, so yeah.

1019
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: My whole life, like as long as I could remember,

1020
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: there's been sounds in the house. I was like eight

1021
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: the time I first saw like a full body apparition.

1022
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen one since, but like, who was it?

1023
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: I have hadn't Oh, I don't know, I don't know.

1024
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Who it was this if I let's see we have

1025
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: some time, I can try to tell you that story

1026
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: because it's kind of quick. But like so in my house,

1027
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: it's like three stories, sort of like the if you

1028
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: count the basement, which is not completely underground. So I

1029
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: was up on the top level and I shared a

1030
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: bedroom with two other siblings, and I was on the

1031
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: bunk bed bottom bunk, and I don't know what time

1032
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: it was when I woke up, but it was like

1033
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: the dead of night, and for some reason, I wake

1034
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: up and I just lift my head from my pillow

1035
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: and I look out the wind the door to the hallway,

1036
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: and there's a full on person standing there, but like

1037
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: profile to me, like they're not facing me, they're staring

1038
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: at the wall. But they're also like they're wearing all

1039
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: white and it's like a very straight cut like white

1040
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: all the way to the ground, long sleeves, and they

1041
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: have very long black hair that like goes to their

1042
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: knees or something. Okay, here it gets a little creepier.

1043
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: They're wearing a blindfold. Wow, blindfold? Yes, So then like

1044
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: after you know, I don't know, it feels like an eternity,

1045
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: but maybe it was just like thirty seconds or a minute.

1046
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 1: But they then reach back behind their head and start

1047
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: to untie the blindfold, and then they start pulling that

1048
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: line and they're holding it like hot in front of

1049
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: their eyes, like still tight but over their eyes, and

1050
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: like just like a straight line of cloth. And then

1051
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: still holding it over their eyes, they start to turn

1052
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: their head towards me, still having it over their eyes,

1053
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the next thing is the blindfold coming down.

1054
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: And I did not want to see what was behind

1055
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: the blindfold. You know, I'm like seven and eight years old,

1056
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: and even at this time, I've known some things about

1057
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: like you know, oh Native Americans to say the eyes

1058
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: are the windows to the soul and all these things,

1059
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: and like we live on a lonely land and there's

1060
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot of tragedy that must come from that.

1061
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: And so I was just sure that there was going

1062
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: to be something behind those eyes that I didn't feel

1063
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: ready for. And so I shoved my head down into

1064
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: my pillow and was like, go to sleep, Go to sleep,

1065
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: go to sleep, and didn't look back until the morning.

1066
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: But now can't Yeah, I mean that's sleeping my door

1067
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: open anymore.

1068
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: Ever since, yes, I just like four now, and I like,

1069
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: I just completely like the imagery you just gave me

1070
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: was amazing, Like you just told that so well because

1071
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: I can like totally picture this and it sounds like

1072
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: something terrifying from a horror movie. I'm sorry you experienced

1073
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: that at such a young age.

1074
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: Well I'm not because, like I you know, I've always

1075
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: felt like maybe my veil is kind of thin. I

1076
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: had like a near death experiences of like a week

1077
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: old baby, and so like maybe I didn't I have

1078
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: a very thin veil. Yeah, but uh yeah, it was

1079
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: definitely like something I can remember, like it happened yesterday,

1080
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: and and I've had things just continue even when I

1081
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: haven't been at that house like elsewhere in other parts

1082
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: of the world. So yeah, I'm so glad I got

1083
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: to tell you that story because like I was, like,

1084
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: I can't write this story in I need to say

1085
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: these words. Yeah, like it really doesn't sell it to

1086
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: just like write it. So thank you for having a

1087
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: chance for us to call in.

1088
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: Oh my God, of course, and if you keep having

1089
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: stuff happen, hit me up and I'll have you on again.

1090
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: Thank you so much to our listeners. Today we had Christina,

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Speaker 2: dress Faltes. Another great christ Miss present. So if you

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Speaker 2: want to see me live this weekend, I have my

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Speaker 2: show at the world famous Hollywood Improv It is going

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Speaker 2: to be so much fun because we have got Sam

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Speaker 2: Pancake there. We've got Dwayne Perkins, we have got Chris Fairbanks,

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Speaker 2: We've got Naomi ek Perrigan. It's a great lineup. It

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Speaker 2: is at nine pm at the world famous Hollywood Improv

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Speaker 2: Lab in Hollywood, California. That is this Saturday, the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: of December, and then the fifteenth. I am so honored

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Speaker 2: to be hosting the first ever Ross's Dragtastic Bubbly Brunch

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Speaker 2: in Ontario, which is at the Ontario Improv Comedy Club

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Speaker 2: and Ross Matthews will be there in Monique Hart from

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Speaker 2: and I'll be the host and I'd love to say

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Speaker 2: see you there if you live in that area. And

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Speaker 2: once again I want to tell you about the live

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Speaker 2: Ghosted which is the twenty first of January. Get your tickets.

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