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Speaker 1: All right, Parna, Hi screaming.

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Speaker 2: That's how you should start every morning.

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Speaker 1: Always screaming. Nothing gentle about my mornings. I have to

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Speaker 1: do an introduction for you, which I'm excited to do. Great.

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Speaker 1: I take this very seriously. My next guest is a

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Speaker 1: comedian and writer you know from her special Hopeful Potato

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Speaker 1: and the new Amazon Prime show Kevin. It's a Parnon Ninturla.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so happy you're here. Okay to start you

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Speaker 1: or what do you want to say thanks to?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. You know, I was told I would

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Speaker 2: get this question. I already was stressed about it, but

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Speaker 2: I guess I will. It's stressful thanks to my family.

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Speaker 2: But also I was like, you know what, that feels

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Speaker 2: too generic. I'm gonna say thank you to my mother,

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Speaker 2: my father, my sibling, their inner children. Mmmmm, specifically their

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Speaker 2: their inner children.

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Speaker 1: What do you feel gratitude for about their inner children?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess your inner child is kind of

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Speaker 2: the the part of you that you know is in

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Speaker 2: touch with like your joy and what keeps you uh grounded,

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Speaker 2: or like what gives you, you know, a sense of

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Speaker 2: possibility for your life. So I I my inner child

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Speaker 2: wants to thank their inner children.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I think Freud would really respect that.

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Speaker 2: I don't even notice. Is Freud all about inner children?

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Speaker 1: Probably? I think you know? No, Freud is Freud is yeah?

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Speaker 1: Actually Freud probably Yeah, Freud is like your child. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't use the term I don't think.

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Speaker 2: He well the term ID about like your primal urges.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should think their id's as well your ego.

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Speaker 1: But who coined inner child? Do you? You seem to know?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I do know? You know I

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Speaker 2: brought it up and I can't tell you anything.

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Speaker 1: Well, I got dismissed for Freud, so I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 1: wasn't I just thought a psychologist would appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Well, now I'm really outing myself as as I had.

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Speaker 2: I have a psychology BA but undergrad. But I don't

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Speaker 2: have an answer to your question.

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Speaker 1: Well, I listen, if you had let me run with Freud,

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Speaker 1: we'd actually be off this topic.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of point you back on Freud. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: say you were right with Freud.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't need to be right. It'll just throw away. Okay.

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Speaker 1: A psychologist of sorts would be proud of you. So

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Speaker 1: you studied psychology I did. Did you enjoy it?

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Speaker 2: I did. I like to say that I will never

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Speaker 2: not take a personality quiz online, so I think that

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Speaker 2: was more. My interest in psychology was that I just

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Speaker 2: love learning more about what what makes me tick, what

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Speaker 2: makes other people tick. It's one of those fields where

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Speaker 2: you can immediately apply it to your life, So I

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Speaker 2: think that made it attractive.

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Speaker 1: Who, well, what's your myers breaks?

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Speaker 2: I n f J.

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Speaker 1: I n f J introvert, neurotic. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the ND stands for.

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Speaker 2: It's right, No, wait, intuition.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have begun this either. No, I n f J.

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Speaker 2: Though feeling is yes and J is judging.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah. What does it mean about you to

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Speaker 1: be an I n f J.

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Speaker 2: I think we are a very rare type, and I

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Speaker 2: think we are very overthinking. We're like deep thinkers, okay,

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Speaker 2: like we're too almost to our detriment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have you overthought something recently?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, everything is outfit?

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Speaker 1: Like, what what was your thought process with the outfit?

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Speaker 2: I was like, I want to be casual but uncomfortable,

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Speaker 2: but I need to add something, so I just did

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Speaker 2: Papa color.

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Speaker 1: It looks great.

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Speaker 2: I am proud of myself in that. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't go like yellow or orange because

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Speaker 2: this feels like it. Compliment.

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Speaker 1: No, you look like you belong there because the mustard

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Speaker 1: color on the collar of your T shirt matches the couch.

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Speaker 1: You've done great. I know, I am thinking about you've

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Speaker 2: I mean I was overthinking before I got here, and

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Speaker 2: when I got here, I actually was a little bit eddies.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, yeah, good, that's what we hope to do.

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Speaker 2: Are you an overthinker?

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Speaker 1: I can be? Yeah, yeah, I guess what I say.

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Speaker 1: I can be. I am full stop. Yeah, let me

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Speaker 2: I know, but that was that's an overthinking answer to be, like,

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Speaker 2: am I yeah, I guess, yeah, exactly? Nothing is yeah, straightforward?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have asked, so do you know Enneagram? Also?

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Speaker 1: Do you know that personality test? Hard? You remember someone asked.

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Speaker 2: Me that I believe seven?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that is?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Helper to his helper. It's like, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: It's a peacemaker.

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Speaker 2: It might be helpmaker, Okay, peacemaker.

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Speaker 1: Where do you fall in the sibling lineup.

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Speaker 2: I am youngest, you are I love just to just too? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And do you have an older brother?

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Speaker 2: Older non binary sibils?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, amazing, Yes, yes, are you guys close?

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Speaker 2: We are? Yeah. I would say we've gone through periods

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Speaker 2: where we're not as like in touch, but I would

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Speaker 1: Okay, good way. Yeah. Are they in New York here?

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Speaker 2: They're in New York?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Bo's amazing. Yea, everybody's in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: I know. So do you want to tell me about

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Speaker 1: working on Kevin?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Kevin was really fun. It's an animated show coming

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Speaker 2: out on Amazon and it's about animals. It's about a

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Speaker 2: cat who his couple that he lives with breaks up,

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Speaker 2: and instead of going with one or the other, he

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Speaker 2: decides to make it on his own in the world.

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Speaker 2: And this is about his journey.

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Speaker 1: This is beautiful. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he ends up at sort of you know, a

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Speaker 2: sheltered situation and you know, a lot of kind of

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Speaker 2: misfit animals there, and I am one of them. I

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Speaker 2: play a sickly kitten.

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Speaker 1: Do you like cats in real life?

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Speaker 2: I do? I have two.

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Speaker 1: You have two cats. What are their names?

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Speaker 2: Nanny and Zazi and Zazi very sweet? Yeah, their sisters.

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Speaker 1: Oh you got them together?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, they're bonded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for life. Yeah, you can't separate the siblings.

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Speaker 1: I have a friend with four cats, and I'm always

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful. That's a full family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like, wow, those are really your children

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Speaker 2: They are? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you travel a lot right for for.

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Speaker 1: If you were to move out, cats are your cats? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I think actually they are kind of

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up with pets?

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Speaker 2: I grew up with the dog. Well, first to guinea pig,

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Speaker 1: The proper way to do pets. Start with the evolution.

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Speaker 2: Are creatures of place. So yeah, you could argue that

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Speaker 2: it was like kinder to let the cats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. I think it was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the cat. Yeah, the cat watched the wire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's the not my scene. Did

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Speaker 1: Wrenching Michelle Williams, Ryan Gosling or in a relationship. Derek

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Speaker 2: Seen, deep into this emptiness I'm feeling. And yeah, and

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Speaker 1: exactly what watch the Wire?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 1: Well, did you do all seasons?

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Speaker 2: what else I'm gonna do? I'm finally gonna watch the

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Speaker 1: What else did you watch?

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Speaker 2: That was the only one that was it? I think

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Speaker 2: that one put me out of the game.

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Speaker 1: Did you So? Do you have a favorite character from

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Speaker 1: The Wire? Because my friend and I talk about it

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Speaker 1: all the time. I mean Wallace, yeah, Michael B. Jordan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can we spoil it for people and say what.

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Speaker 2: Happy let's see what? How how many years later are

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Speaker 1: Like twenty years later? I think we're allowed. Sad what

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like they should have killed him?

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Speaker 2: When you can do that, you feel like you want

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why am I paying extra for this? And if I'm

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Speaker 1: other thing I think.

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00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: About two ours is in our laundry room. Funnily enough,

445
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: because there's a door to like outside and a window

446
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: so we can just like air it out easily. So

447
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: that makes the most sense. Oh great, Yeah, so it's

448
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: tucked away. It's not like in prime real.

449
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 1: Estate because the friend with four cats is a lovely

450
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 1: smelling home. Yeah, I've thought about the top of just

451
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: no problem, smells great.

452
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't they have litter boxes? Everything.

453
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: They must not. I've never even seen the litter box.

454
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: It's gone over, so I'm like, where is it? Maybe

455
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: next time I go over?

456
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: Are they using the human?

457
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, because you can train your cat to live.

458
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever tried with your cat? Okay?

459
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 2: I remember when one of them was a kitten. She

460
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: tried to jump in the toilet and we were like, maybe.

461
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: Keep the kitten away from the bathroom.

462
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

463
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: I do remember growing up my kitty when there's just

464
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: pure kittens, because my friend's cat had babies when they're

465
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 1: this big and cling to your shirt. If we could only.

466
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: Keep that big la boo boo sound, oh ala boo.

467
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: Boo kitty, I would if there are labuo boo kitties.

468
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 1: If that existed, I might get just New York apartment.

469
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: And my dog is he's not big, but he just

470
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: he takes up. He needs to be everywhere. Oh it's

471
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: a busy body. Sure, it's like, what are you doing?

472
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: I need to be in that. If he hears now

473
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: he's your dog like clingy or he kind of can

474
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: have his own thing.

475
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: He's a little clinging. Namely like if I'm in the

476
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: other room on a phone call and it sounds like

477
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: that phone calls too fun. He's like, what the fuck

478
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: is going on here? At Yeah he has big time phone. Okay,

479
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Yeah. But then it's like not as

480
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: clingy as some dogs. So sometimes I'm like, let's cudd

481
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: and he's like children.

482
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okayeah, yeah he has some boundary.

483
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: He has boundaries, because that always.

484
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: Feels like the distinction to me between cats and dogs

485
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: that everyone's like dogs are codependent, and yes, they're like

486
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: avoidant avoidant, yeah yeah, oh.

487
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids, how would you call your cats? Avoidant?

488
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 2: Ours are a balance because they will come and be

489
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 2: like I demand to be pet or like I demand

490
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: to sit in your lap. But it's just everything is

491
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: on their terms.

492
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: Yes, and when they want to again, no convincing that yes, yes, ma'am.

493
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: But it sounds like your dog has some boundary, he said, does,

494
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: but I don't.

495
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: I do think it's crazy that he's like, oh, you're

496
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 1: having fun or I'm hearing you on the phone, or

497
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 1: something's happening and I need to know what it is

498
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: and you're part of it. Yes, it's crazy, Like imagine

499
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: a person like that. I love my dog, but I'm

500
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: like this wouldn't be a chill person.

501
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: There are people like that though, kind Do you like them?

502
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Me either.

503
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: Don't you feel like that's like a type in an

504
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: office where it's like the person who like sees that

505
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: those cubicles are having a nice time.

506
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just mosey over, Like, hey, you're talking about what

507
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: a way to insert yourself. Yeah.

508
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm always impressed, though, like begrudgingly impressed by people who

509
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: can just insert themselves and conversation.

510
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: It's I've seen it in action, and I think that

511
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: is a fascinating.

512
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: Really, I feel like I've been in a party where

513
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: I'm in conversation with someone and I still don't feel like.

514
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: I am supposed to be there. You don't want to

515
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: be talking to me. I've inserted myself in your life, right, Yeah,

516
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: I know you. I hate to I was last night

517
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: at an event and a girl I was talking to

518
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: I think I like glanced away because I was like, oh,

519
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: my periphery, I see a friend and I didn't think

520
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: i'd see any friends at this event. Yeah, And she's like,

521
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: I'll get out of your hair, and I was like, no,

522
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying talking to you. I was like, oh no,

523
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: I just in my periphery, and I might be ADHD.

524
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: I diagnose myself a lot.

525
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's actually an LA complaint that

526
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: people have of like, oh, at LA parties, whenever you

527
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 2: know you're talking to someone, they're like scanning the room

528
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: to see who else is in there.

529
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: A nightmare.

530
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: But I think what you're saying also happens where you

531
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: do just like catch sight of someone and yes, yeah,

532
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: and then your eyes naturally are like, oh, is that

533
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: that person? But then but yeah, that's the fear that

534
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: you're then like making someone think you don't want to.

535
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I like, you don't go and

536
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: then I looked needy and then it was like, this

537
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: is about this interaction has gone down.

538
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, okay, all.

539
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Right, it isn't it isn't. Have you spent time in LA?

540
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: Have you lived there?

541
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: I lived there?

542
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: Now, you live there? Now? I thought you were in

543
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: New York Base.

544
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: I was for a really long time. I've been there

545
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 2: for the past three years, but I was in New

546
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: York for almost ten years.

547
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: Okay, thoughts, Yeah, on both you've lived in LA, You've

548
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: lived in New York thoughts.

549
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna I don't even think this is controversial,

550
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: but I love both for different reasons.

551
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: Well, you love La nature, Okay.

552
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: I just love the trees and I love the fresh air,

553
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: and I love the sunshine. And you know, I do

554
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: think everyone is a little more laid back.

555
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say I'm even more laid back.

556
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: There you are.

557
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm like, yeah, nothing mad rushing. I wouldn't

558
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: dare time.

559
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 2: If you're in your car, You're like, this is like

560
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: my other my second home. Yeah.

561
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: I moved into an apartment closer to like UCB, where

562
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: I was spending a lot of time, like my last

563
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: few months in La Yes, and I and I had

564
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: a crazy commute before that because I lived in Santa Monica.

565
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: It's like East to westing in traffic. It was crazy.

566
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: But I did that for like four or five I'm

567
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: doing bad math, probably five years. But so right before

568
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: I moved, I was like to New York. I was like, oh,

569
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: I'll live closer to UCB. My friends are here, and

570
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: I missed my car time I was I was like

571
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: catching up on phone call hands free of course, meaning

572
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: my hands were off the wheel, drinking my two phones.

573
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Hell hold on, but no, like I missed it and

574
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: I was like, my music, my oh, it doesn't hit

575
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: the same In the house.

576
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 2: I think of it as like my little office or something.

577
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: I use so much stuff. I have meals in the oh. Yeah,

578
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: I used to in my face. Have a have an

579
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: emotional moment.

580
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: I know in New York, and you have to have

581
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: an emotional moment in New York in public weeping. I

582
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: know I have wept in public in New York. But

583
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: everyone everyone, everyone has. But you know. A woman came

584
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: up to me while I was weeping. It was like,

585
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: can I get a picture?

586
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

587
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: And I was like there and my friend said yes,

588
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: my friend because she was like, can I get a

589
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: picture both of you and I? And my friend said

590
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: yes before I could be like, I'm crying, I just

591
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: put on your sunglasses. Have you ever taken a picture

592
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: of yourself crying? No? Don't. Isn't it strange when when

593
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: people do? But you've never seen this someone like like

594
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: an influencer, like weeping on on on reels.

595
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: I guess I've just seen yeah video video. No. No,

596
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: I thought you meant like a still.

597
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: I've seen still you have, I've seen stills. I've seen video.

598
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: I think it's all weird, but but yeah, I guess

599
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: still's kind of blew my mind.

600
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever done video?

601
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: Then? No, no, but I've seen like the whatever the

602
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: apology video or whatever it is where they're tearing up.

603
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's weird because I also just

604
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: think about them editing it or being like oh this

605
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: one I look sad or you know, like just that

606
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: like the thought process, how feels wild?

607
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: How you would a self taped Yes, yes, I could

608
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: see a still like documenting this is when I was

609
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: down so bad and.

610
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: Just like the weight comparison, yes, before yeah.

611
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: And then I went and got my mind right, Yes,

612
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: you know I healed after my breakup and now look

613
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: new smiles. Yeah, I've seen I've seen the the crying,

614
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: the reels, and I'm always like I wouldn't want to

615
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: do that, but kudos to the brave souls.

616
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: I guess. So yeah, it almost feels like now it's

617
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: like the whatever the pis or didn't happen where it's like,

618
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: if you have remorse, we need.

619
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Video, prough we need to see Yeah, we need to

620
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: see you weeping. Do you watch ye any reality TV?

621
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I was just talking about someone uh, just talking with

622
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: someone about a Oh yeah, I just watched a New

623
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: York real estate reality show. It was like a Ryan Surhand. Okay,

624
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: have you watched okay, okay, okay, I guess there was

625
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: a show Million Dollar Listing that he was a real

626
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: turn and then he like broke out and now has

627
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: his own business and it's about him launching his own Okay. Yeah.

628
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Is it sort of aspirational watching that stuff? Like what's

629
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: the what do you find yourself enjoying about a real

630
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: estate reality show?

631
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: I think this one was interesting because I usually do

632
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: it to like oggle the houses or the places, but

633
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: most of I've noticed on most of these real estate shows,

634
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to live in any of the places.

635
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: They either have no personality or they're just like two

636
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: over the top where it's like I wouldn't want to

637
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: live in this, like maybe go to a party yeah

638
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: and around yeah. Yeah. But I'm also fascinated by who

639
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: is looking at them, because it always be like he

640
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: he's a billionaire because he sold a shoe or something,

641
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, sure, fine, no, yeah, yeah.

642
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: Do you spend any time on like Zillow or Redfin?

643
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: I do you? But I'll look at like really like

644
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: kind of wild places that I wouldn't live, just to

645
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: see what's there, like where I don't know, like New

646
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Zealand or something.

647
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, have you seen incredible spots?

648
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: I just get to look up, like what what's the

649
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: real estate market there?

650
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I should start doing that. I basically I

651
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: bought a house a couple of years ago, and I

652
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: thank you.

653
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

654
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I still look on Zillow as recently as Last Nights

655
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: to be like, did I get the best house?

656
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure?

657
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: What is that personality being like to? And my friend

658
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: was like, you bought the house, It's done this. You

659
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: just want to.

660
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: See what's out there. You want to see. It's like

661
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: the person who's in a couple, but you just want

662
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: to see what the dating pool is doing.

663
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Just a little something. Have you ever been in an

664
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: open relationship? No? Would you ever?

665
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I will. I guess. Actually my last

666
00:31:53,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: uh my last serious relationship, we sort of were moving

667
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: in that direction, okay, but then we broke up.

668
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you were moving in that direction

669
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: because you probably needed to break up or was it.

670
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: I think it was just feeling like we weren't meeting

671
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: all of each other's needs, and it was like, maybe

672
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: that would help. But but yeah, maybe it.

673
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Was a sign that I'm just so curious.

674
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: I think sometimes yeah, maybe it does the writing on

675
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: the wall and you're just like, well, why did we

676
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: try this? I mean, I do think, you know, people

677
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: get flack for opening relationships up when they're maybe not

678
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: facing the relationship is over. But I'm like, that's a

679
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: better option than being like, let's have kids and see

680
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: if that face.

681
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen that. Yeah, I wasn't a bad one.

682
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: And I had someone say to me, like, you know,

683
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: sometimes just you have a kid and it kind of

684
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: distracts you from each other. And I was like, wow,

685
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: I should have a kid with this troll to distract

686
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: from the It's like sometimes it just lets you just

687
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: like have other things to focus on. It's like, poor

688
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: child other things. How many kids exist in the world

689
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: because their parents were just trying to like.

690
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Start in it business they have a kid. I think

691
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: you're right. I think that is like a lot of

692
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: people have that mindset. Yeah, and I think there are

693
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: a lot of kids who are the result of is.

694
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: We do not get along, Let's have a kid. Someone

695
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: in the.

696
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Middle and I also was thinking about that idea of

697
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: people not getting divorced because they're like, well, for the kids,

698
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I don't think your kids are like, yeah,

699
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: we would rather live in a house where it feels

700
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: tense all the time for a reason we can't fully name. Yeah,

701
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: understand that's bad as also.

702
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Bad, maybe worse than divorce, maybe worse potentially. You know,

703
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I've never been a parent, never been married, but I'm

704
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: like that, just yeah, that feels bad. When I've heard that,

705
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: I've been like, no, they don't want I don't think

706
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: the kids want that either.

707
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: It almost feels like they're using the kids as a

708
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: scapegoat to be like we want to seem okay for

709
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 2: other people, you know, other parents who might be judging us.

710
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, The problem with keeping up with the Jones

711
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: is that you just been wondering that even as I

712
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: said it, I'm like, who the fuck are the Joneses

713
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: that you're trying to keep up with? Legitimally? Where did

714
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: that even begin?

715
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: I know you can are they the standard?

716
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when I hear the name Jones, with all

717
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: due respect, I'm like, fine, yeah.

718
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: Fine, fine, but not great.

719
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, right there in the middle.

720
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: No problem is that the idea that you just want

721
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: to stay like somewhere in the middle, because I always

722
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: think of it as like you want to be up there, yeah,

723
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: like top crop.

724
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And in some sense, I'm like, sometimes I hear

725
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: the Joneses and I feel like people are trying to

726
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: be like, that's that's the top.

727
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah exactly.

728
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, why we pick the name Jones? I do

729
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: need to know who this fameous Jones with the rocket Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys,

730
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: raise the bar, raise the bar. Do you want kids?

731
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't, you don't. Yeah, how did when did you

732
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: make that decision?

733
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: I think I felt that way for a long time.

734
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm in my forties and I feel like early

735
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: on or like mid thirties, I was already kind of

736
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: headed in that direction. And yeah, I don't know. I

737
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: think it's one thing that I've never felt strongly about,

738
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: and it feels like a decision you should be at

739
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: least somewhat on board.

740
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Just a little bit, just something like yeah, I don't.

741
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Even if it's just occasionally you're like.

742
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, that's something that is something. Yeah, I think

743
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: I live there sometimes where I'm like, I know, I

744
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: wanted kids, and I still you just get also really

745
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: used to like living your life.

746
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: Intact, you get so accustomed to yes, yes, Like.

747
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: The dog has grounded me in some ways where I'm like,

748
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: I need to think about the logistics of what I'm

749
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: going to do with you when I travel? Are you

750
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: coming with me? Sitter? And that's like a fraction of

751
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: having a child. But I think that I still go

752
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: back to, like, you know, at one point you did

753
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: really want kids, and I've just got But I think

754
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: you just got used to like moving and shaking independently.

755
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: So for me, that's I go back to, like, no,

756
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that'll be fun. And I used to babysit

757
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: and and I do love you.

758
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: You like no kid energy?

759
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I do.

760
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it.

761
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like kids and old people. Oh everyone in

762
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: the middle. I'm like, fine, fine, care, Yeah, let me

763
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: get either side of the spectrum. Yeah, fun.

764
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: I love that though, it's like the full the intergenerational range.

765
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I could have like an old kid or something,

766
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: but I have a bun Benjamin Button. That would be

767
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: so cool.

768
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would watch that movie.

769
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean, will be the one of me as a

770
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: pane to us that would be fun. Yeah, let's figure

771
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: that out too.

772
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to bring back what an old franchise is.

773
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't like new ideas anyway. Yeah, so I

774
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: can actually let me pitch it. But it's me bb too. Yeah,

775
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: and that's what you've got, the whole thing. So it's

776
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 1: going to be great. Yeah.

777
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll call you. I'll call you once I have

778
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: the pieces in.

779
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: Okay, good, we'll have our people talking all of that. Yes.

780
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Did you get any flak from anyone in your life

781
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: though once you decided like I don't want kids, or

782
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: any pressure leading up to that moment being like are

783
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: you yeah?

784
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: I mean I have immigrant parents, so it's like I

785
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: don't know what the what else is comparable to be like,

786
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to give you grandchildren. I mean my

787
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: sibling has two kids. So I think that really took

788
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: the pressure off of It's like, now there are grandchildren

789
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: in the picture. But I think they always were like

790
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: are you sure just one? Yeah, Like what's better than

791
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: a kid? I'm like, I don't know. The people I

792
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: know have them are very stressed out, And yeah, I

793
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: think it's just such a big decision and you have

794
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: to you have to be all in.

795
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, How did you handle those conversations though? Oh

796
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: when the pressure was coming.

797
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: I think I sort of said that where I'm like, well,

798
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: do you want to raise the.

799
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Cute and how would they respond to that, because that

800
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: is a valid question.

801
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: I think they were like, once they come, you'll you'll

802
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: you'll see what it's like. And I'm like, that's not it.

803
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: That's not the logic you can use when you because

804
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: what if they come and that's not what you feel,

805
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: and then they're here, and then they're here and they're

806
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: not going anywhere.

807
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not fair.

808
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: That's fair.

809
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: Where did your parents immigrate from India? From India?

810
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

811
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Do you think growing up how? I mean, how was

812
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: it navigating for them the fact that their kids were

813
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: growing up here but they're from somewhere else and they

814
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: have a culture that is of a different Yeah. What

815
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: was I feel like it's it varies from family to family,

816
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: the balance of like assimilation versus holding onto culture. What

817
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: was your experience with that?

818
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: I think it was pretty typical, like assimilationists like we

819
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: want to be American, but at the same time, you know,

820
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: we would go to like the Hindu temple, regularly. We

821
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: did a lot of like community events. We would go

822
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: to like for a while we went to like Hinduism

823
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Sunday School. So I think my parents were like definitely

824
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: trying to like stay tied to roots and and we

825
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: were sheltered in a lot of ways growing up. Like

826
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: we weren't allowed to go to sleepovers, we weren't allowed

827
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: to date, Like there were certain shows we weren't allowed

828
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: to watch, Like the library was free reign, like the

829
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: library was was you know, go have a ball at

830
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: the library. You can do whatever you want there. But yeah,

831
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: it's funny because I also associate my dad with so

832
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: many like immigrant dads where it's like he loved a

833
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: nature show, he loves Costco a good deal, you know,

834
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: like just like things where you're like, yeah, that's an

835
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: immigrant dead. Yeah.

836
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Aside from Hinduism, were there any parts of the culture

837
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that they were like you have, Yes you're in America,

838
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: and yes we're assimilating in ways, but these are parts

839
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: of the culture that we really want to make part

840
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: of your life.

841
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: I think just like yeah, just like regularly going to

842
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: events with others, how the Asian folks, and like you know,

843
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: wearing like traditional clothes and we would mainly eat Indian

844
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: food at home and those things I'm like grateful for

845
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: because I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm on board with those things,

846
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: Bollywood movies, but yeah, nothing nothing like that felt like constricting, right, Yeah,

847
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: well that's nice.

848
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's the version of.

849
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: That because even like, my parents are both doctors, and

850
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: I think they they you know, gently not just in

851
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: the direction of med school, but neither my sibling and

852
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: I are doctors, and you know, they weren't like this

853
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: is unacceptable or like why are you, you know, doing

854
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: careers that are less stable, or like I feel like

855
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: on the immigrant parents scale, they're definitely on the more

856
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: chill end of Okay, Yeah, is there a.

857
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Job you've had that was the one that made them

858
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: go oh has made it?

859
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: I think maybe my first writing job where they were like, oh,

860
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: this is an actual job. You like, show up the powhere, yeah,

861
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: daytak hours, you get a regular paycheck. I think that

862
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: made them realize, oh, okay, this is a career where

863
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: you actually can have a job that looks like a

864
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: normal job.

865
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. What was the writing job that was.

866
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 2: The that was actually the reason I moved to New York.

867
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: It was writing for this late night show on FX

868
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: called Totally Biased with w co mal Bell.

869
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So you moved from New York from

870
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: from LA from LS.

871
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: You were in LA originally I had moved from d C,

872
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: which is where I started comedy.

873
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, okay, and then did a Stinton La, came

874
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: to New York and then went back to LA. Yes.

875
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: Was there any part of you that was considering staying

876
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: in New York after that? Yeah?

877
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: I mean I love New York. I think the grind.

878
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: Just as I've gotten older, I'm just like, I just

879
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: want a little more ease.

880
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what people.

881
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: Do, I know, a little more ease, a little more trees.

882
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: So a little more ease, a little more trees. That's

883
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: the motto past a certain age. Yeah, fair enough, because

884
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people will leave New York to go

885
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: upstate or somewhere else where there are trees, or they'll headways.

886
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you know what else is upstate? Ticks?

887
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I mean, it's so many things

888
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: I could have said, ticks. Are you scared of ticks?

889
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I have a friend who has

890
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: lime disease, and so I think it's like I'm always like, oh.

891
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Ticks, ticks.

892
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

893
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Does your friend who has lime disease know when they

894
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: got by the ticks? Yeah?

895
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: You know, and and I think it was in on

896
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: the West coast, So I don't know what. So you're

897
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: an l safe.

898
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not safe there either. I've always been like

899
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: one tick bite and it's a rap. I used to

900
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: play in the woods as a kid, but it didn't

901
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: occur to me. Yeah, like we used to play in

902
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: the woods all the time. Yeah, and it was just

903
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: like ticks were like a min like they existed for sure,

904
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: but it was like, don't get bit by Yeah.

905
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but did you remember checking each other for tis?

906
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes we would check for ticks.

907
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: But I'm like, probably not every time, but no, sometimes

908
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: we were checking for ticks. Yeah.

909
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is a scary thing to think that

910
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: one little buck bite could change your life. I know,

911
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: look at Spider Man get bit by a buck. I

912
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: guess that's good by a spider and yeah, helped us better,

913
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: better situation. So many franchises, do you spend time at

914
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: the beach at all?

915
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm more mountains than okay.

916
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: Because I heard when you said nature, and you were.

917
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: Like, I do like the beach, but like less.

918
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, what do you not like about the beach?

919
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: I think it's the sand.

920
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a friend who has more trees than beach, Like, yeah,

921
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: my preference is blue water beach. Okay, okay, and my

922
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: friend is little miss trees, and she's like the sand

923
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: and she goes and then you go to the beach

924
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: and do what And I go lay there and you

925
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: read and you drink.

926
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: It is nice to lay there.

927
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also do just enjoy being horizontal as.

928
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: A rule, so sure, yeah.

929
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: That explains that. So are you into hiking then.

930
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: I do like a hike. Yeah, yeah, I will. I

931
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: will say though backpacking is maybe I think I wanted

932
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: to get into that when I was younger, and now

933
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like, why why do I need to carry

934
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: it all on my back?

935
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: You already are in real life. Why am I putting

936
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: a backpack? Right? Have you ever backpacked like through Europe

937
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: or something?

938
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, but when I was a teenager, I did like,

939
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: I think two outward bound trips. Okay, so that's like

940
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: sort of like an adventure program where you go to

941
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: the wilderness for I think both of them were like

942
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: three weeks long, and you just kind of rough it

943
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: where you're like backpacking from place to place and you

944
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: learn like how to survive in the wild. And I

945
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: think I was just like really obsessed with like being

946
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: like really independent and like knowing how to take care

947
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: of myself. But I think what I mainly learned from

948
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: those trips was like, oh, I'm not built for rough

949
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: in it.

950
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: That's good to know yourself. I know that about myself

951
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: without having done outward Bound. Yeah, I'm like I'm not

952
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: made for that. Yeah, well that's okay. Yeah, but you

953
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: know because you actually went and tried and saw and

954
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, thank you. So you would never do

955
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: a survivor.

956
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I could. Yeah, to do that and

957
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: be filmed.

958
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: On top of it is crazy.

959
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen naked in a phrase?

960
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen naked in a I've seen clips. Okay, okay,

961
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's brave. People are brave.

962
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: Out here are brave. They're brave to be like I

963
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: want to survive and have no supplies and no way

964
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: to figure out what's happening, and I need it all documented.

965
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: That's a different kind of person, but from a different claw.

966
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

967
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, are you super close to your Do you

968
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: have niece's nephews?

969
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: I have a nibblings siblings?

970
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, your siblings kids. So it's two right two?

971
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: One is eight and one is five. I'm trying to

972
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: figure out their birthdays. Yeah, I think maybe.

973
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to keep track. It's hard to keep

974
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: my mom. I don't think even knows my birthday. I

975
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: think my siblings remind her.

976
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: I know, I think since the grandkids showed up, I'm like,

977
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: I think my parents put in their birthdays and took mind.

978
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, you can only have two birthdays in

979
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: the calendar and siblings and yours. Yes, so you guys

980
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: are close? Yeah, I feel ye are? And where are they?

981
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: They're a here new They're here in New York.

982
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, So do you get to see them often?

983
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Every so often? Like yeah, like I would say a

984
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: handful of times whenever I'm here.

985
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long did it take for you to get close?

986
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: To feel close, like connected to them? Because when they're babies,

987
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: in my experience, it's like, I mean, I was obsessed

988
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: with my niece as a baby, but it's like, okay,

989
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: you know a personality.

990
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is the tool to see

991
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: as they get older, just like seeing them turn into

992
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: little people more and more where it's like they have

993
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: their quirks and yeah, you're right as a baby, it's

994
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more like okay, I'll take I'll you

995
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: around and put you in cute things. Yeah, yeah, I think,

996
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's hard now that I live

997
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: on an opposite coast to kind of spend as much

998
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: time with them, but it is neat to just see

999
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: like what they're into now and like where they're where

1000
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: they're headed as kind of people because they're Also it's

1001
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: funny with siblings how like different they are from each

1002
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: other where it's like one of them will be like,

1003
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, really into trains and then the other one's like, no,

1004
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm a you know, I'm a teddy bear kind of

1005
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: guy or whatever it is.

1006
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I it's fascinating to me because my niece,

1007
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: the oldest one, very reserved, and then her younger sister

1008
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: is like a little wild card adventurer that she's too,

1009
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: And I'm like the personalities, it's so early. Both came

1010
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: from the same lady and Mary, and I'm like, wow,

1011
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: it's crazy how quickly they can form personalities. Did you

1012
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: have any indication when you were younger that you would

1013
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: do what you do now, Like when you look back

1014
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: retrospectively and are like, oh, I guess I did really

1015
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: enjoy this thing growing up. It makes sense now that

1016
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: I am a or.

1017
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: Always enjoyed creative writing, Like I kept journals very early on,

1018
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: and like diaries, and then I remember like hanging out

1019
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: with my cousins and like making like these mini movies

1020
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: and and like joking around and being silly. So I

1021
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: do think it was like there early on. But I think,

1022
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 2: especially with performing, I was also a really shy kid.

1023
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: I think I was often like I don't think I'm

1024
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: quite bold enough to really be a performer, but I

1025
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: think the seed was there. It was yeah, yeah, yeah.

1026
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Did you do like any other sort of extracurricular activities.

1027
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we took piano lessons, We did like classical

1028
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: Indian dance, so the like kind of a smattering of

1029
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: different things. But yeah, No, I think I took theater

1030
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: in college and like did some musicals in middle school.

1031
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: But but I think I was like, oh, I'm not

1032
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: I'm not quite a like out there as some of

1033
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: these theater kids, so I didn't. I kind of took

1034
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: myself out of the running. Yeah.

1035
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was DC where you grew up? Right, Yeah,

1036
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: from Baltimore so close but far clo same but so

1037
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: not say yeah.

1038
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: And I'm technically I grew up in the suburbs you did.

1039
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what part of Maryland was.

1040
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: Well in northern Virginia, Virginia.

1041
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Look at me biased and assume I'm like, so you're

1042
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: from Maryland. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, what part of Virginia

1043
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: was it?

1044
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: It was Fairbacks County. And I grew up in McClean.

1045
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: Okah, yeah, I mean I see them on the signs

1046
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: on I'm sure, yeah, drive by waved at the family.

1047
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: Would you ever move back? When you think about cities, like,

1048
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: would you ever move back to where you're from?

1049
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I honestly like didn't have

1050
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: issues growing up there, Like I liked it. I I

1051
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: enjoyed my time there. But for some reason, I'm like,

1052
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would want to live there again.

1053
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: I like visiting, I like seeing my parents and said

1054
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: like I and obviously the area has gotten really like

1055
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: there's like cool stuff that wasn't there when I when

1056
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I lived there, But yeah, I don't know if I

1057
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: could live there again.

1058
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: Why why what do you think feel.

1059
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: I think it would still feel like too regressive or

1060
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: something even now where I'm just like, I feel like

1061
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: I would be going backwards. Yeah, yeah, do you feel

1062
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: like that.

1063
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: I am curious about going to I don't think I

1064
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: would live in Baltimore, yeah, full time, But I do

1065
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: like going back. Yeah, Like what's happening in the city

1066
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: that I'm from. I'm like, what's where's.

1067
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: The good food?

1068
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: It's got such good food and people just show stand

1069
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: ups to shows. There's something. Yeah, And so I'm like, oh,

1070
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: I shouldn't I should be acquainted. It's been a long time.

1071
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I guess if money was no object,

1072
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, sure, I wouldn't mind a little house house.

1073
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a great place.

1074
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah I could just pop through. Yeah, but I don't

1075
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: know if I could like just be there full time.

1076
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough?

1077
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,920
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1078
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

1079
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1081
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