1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, So. 2 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and 3 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm Mila. Happy Wednesday, you guys. Happy Wednesday. People. 4 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: You've made it to another Wednesday where you get to 5 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 3: hear our beautiful bosses. 6 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's why they tune in. They're like, I 7 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: must hear Erica singing la. We're gonna lose his listeners. Like, 8 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: we didn't come here for this ship. You guys got 9 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: you guys got popping and think you could sing. Everybody 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: else does it. 11 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: I'm all doing well, podcasters are doing it. 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: I think we're the late to the singer. I was 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: just saying everybody, I was everybody on the intern. I 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: think they should be a rapper. Amber Rose is a rapper. 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck it, let me just spit my little game. 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: Surprise me. It's a song. 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Surprise me. Wait, take me to Dominican Republic. 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: Spokey that song get stuck in my head? 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: What is it? 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: You don't even know the words? Don't malet me pull 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: it up? 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: Surprise me? Why me and z me? I mean all 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: of them sound the same, so we really could just 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: like do like a one album, do it real quick. 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, I think I missed my calling there. 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: I think it's over for me. 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, men be becoming like late in life 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: rappers all the time, so I don't know what you're 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: talking about me. 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: I would like to shoot a music video. 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: That's that's really what I want. I just want the 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: music videos. 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I have shot a few music videos in. 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: My in my day, I have it, so we need 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: to make it up. All of our photo shoots are 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: like like the highest level of like like the music 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: video that I've done. 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: So I just really one time I did a music 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: video for a song that I did with my friend 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: Jared and actually Sebastian, He and his friends. They dressed 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: me up as a mermaid. 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god, I remember this. 43 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: On the beach, but it was like a gothic mermaid. 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: And so they've like made a tail out of black 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: trash bags. 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Oh and then I had like slicked my hair back 47 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: and I'd glitter and shit and I couldn't move and 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: they all had to carry me around. It's the plastic bagtail, 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: we're gonna. 50 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: Have to And then I recently saw something on Instagram 51 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: of like a like a dot, like a like a 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: bondage a bondage mermaid, and I was like, wow, they 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: copied me. 54 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh they told me searched the internet for that. 55 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: I must have seen it. 56 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: What was it? Ian? 57 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: J yep? 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: Are you still eating? Ja? Look at that? 59 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 60 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: I know we're not bondage mermaids, So damn, how are you? 61 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm great? 62 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: I'm great. 63 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: I am you know, growing becoming more of a woman 64 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: every day. 65 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: I think you were. I think you're a woman. 66 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: I know, but I'm like getting real two feet in 67 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: the grown woman. You know. I was in denial for 68 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: a while, but I'm months away from thirty five and 69 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, bitch, you're an adult. You're doing it. So 70 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: I'm just, you know, embracing all the growing pains, taking 71 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: responsibility for my procrastinations, and you know, just I'm excited 72 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: about this chapter in our Lives. And the book's about 73 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: to come out if you guys haven't heard, hear it 74 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: here First, The Good Mom's Guide to Making Bad Choices 75 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: is coming to a bookstore near you and Target, so 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: pick it up. 77 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, the book comes out May second, but you can 78 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: pre order it right now today. You can get a 79 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: hard copy, you can get a digital copy. You can 80 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: get the audio version. We recorded an audio version, so 81 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna be fucking amazing, So please please support to 82 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Girls and get the pre order. Order it now so 83 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: you don't have to remember. It'll just show up in 84 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: your email or on your doorstep and you'll be like, 85 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: oh my god, look at these pitches. 86 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Order it for a friend, Order for a pregnant friend, 87 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: Order for a friend who hasn't had kids yet. Just 88 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: order a bunch so we can be best time selling authors. Okay, thanks. 89 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: Also, we just announced our next reach in Saulita, Mexico. 90 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: Salulita is also known as Pueblo Magico, which means magic Pueblo, 91 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: which means you know, some magic is about to pop 92 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: off in Salulita, Mexico. The dates are July fifth and 93 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: July twelfth. This is a women's retreat the Sorry men, 94 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: you're not allowed to come, but make sure you click 95 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: the link in this episode description to really see the vibes, 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: because it really is just I can't. I can sit 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: here and explain it, but you just got to go 98 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: see it. Plus, hopefully you've also been tuning into our 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: Good Vibe segment that we've recently released our bonus episodes 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: we've been releasing weekly sharing the women's testimonials. So don't 101 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: take it from us, take it from the other people 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: that actually attended the retreat and hear their stories firsthand 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: about the transformations that happened, the sisterhood that happens. If 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: you're someone who's been looking for your tribe, if you're 105 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: someone who's been needing a reason or an excuse to 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: tap in, this is your reason. And it's the summertime, 107 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: so your kids are not in school. 108 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: You don't have an excuse. You have lots of months 109 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: to get your coins together. We offer payment plans to 110 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: just put a small deposit and ain't no other trip 111 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: you could do that. So I suggest, if you haven't 112 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: been out the country, even putting off taking a vacation, 113 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: taking care of yourself, put your little coins aside, because 114 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: you would spend it on going out to eat anyway, 115 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: and take care of yourself and treat yourself. It's an investment, 116 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: but it's the best investment you'll ever make, and you'll 117 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: manifest tenfold. You will. 118 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: And the property we take over is gorgeous. It's just 119 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: us there. It's like we take over this entire space, 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: so it's our playground. Nobody else is allowed except us. 121 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: All the rooms are ocean view, It's all inclusive. The 122 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: food is bombed, the workshops are amazing, and I'm just 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: excited because we've only ever really done our retreats in 124 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: Costa Rica. So this is like a new journey with 125 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: us too, with you guys. So come take that journey 126 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: with us and tap into the good vibe retreat. 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: Also pick up our merch. Look at Erica's cute ass hat. 128 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: We made it. 129 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: Put a lot of let's sweat and tears into our 130 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: merch designs. 131 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: You can wear it like this, or you can wear 132 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: it like this. If you feel like Blossom, you look 133 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: like Blossom. 134 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: You gotta be a woman of a certain age to 135 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: know who Blossom is. 136 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: I love it. I'm tapping into Blossom. 137 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: I think I asked their landown. He's like what. I 138 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: was like, you're two. What happens when you're dated a 139 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: young nigga. It's because he's Jamaican. He says, he doesn't 140 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: really know American. Why did he move from Jamaica when 141 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: he was five? But apparently you know, when you're in 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: the house, boys are watching Blossom. Oh right, that's true. 143 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: I think that's like some of it like some like 144 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: I think we have this particular growing up because we're 145 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: like in the white ass Valley, so we're there's like 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't see grease lightning? The fuck? What 147 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: the fuck? 148 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: Nigga? 149 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Anyway, today we were joined by a wonderful guest. 150 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: We're so excited if you guys have joined us already 151 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: in April. This is we're highlighting all plant medicine, all 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: natural healing, and what better way to have to introduce 153 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: natural healing than with author father son of the Queen 154 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: Afua Supernova. 155 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: Welcome, Hello, welcome, thank you for joining us. 156 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations on the book. 157 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 158 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: I was able to take a pre copy, put my 159 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: hand on it, put the vibes. 160 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, putting off. Thank you. I'm so excited 161 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: to hear about the work that you do because I 162 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: think the work that we do similar types of you know, 163 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: modalities and things, but you're really tapped into the men 164 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: and their healing. And I think that that is something 165 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: that a is so so so so so so important 166 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: in our community, especially amongst black men. And I know 167 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: that in like my research, even in our space of 168 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: women's retreats that are catered to our community, which our 169 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: retreat is for everyone. It's you know, weather, black, brown, whatever. 170 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: Although I will say that most of the women of 171 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: color come trying to research and just seeing what's out there, 172 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: there's definitely an extreme deficit in these type of experiences. 173 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: And then I actually went and started to look up 174 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: men's retreats and and just like just any sort of 175 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: like programs for men, and it's really there's some huge 176 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: deficit in it. There's a huge like gap in or 177 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: maybe like I'm not looking it up properly, but I 178 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: was like, Yo, where do men? Where is where are 179 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: these spaces for men? So I'm really I'm really grateful 180 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: that you've created this space for men to tap in 181 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: and to start their healing journey and and take care 182 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: of themselves. 183 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: That's the key. That's the key. 184 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: Can you tell us kind of your journey into how 185 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: you became supernvous? 186 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Like wow, that yeah, I guess I was going to say, 187 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: I know, your mom's Queen of Foo, and I know 188 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: obviously you grew up in like a certain upbringing, but 189 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: like was a lot of times our moms can tell 190 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: us shit and we don't listen so like was that 191 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: was that always the programming or was there something like 192 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: a shift that you took on this work that's a 193 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: good setup. 194 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Well yeah, so hmm. Being born and raised vegan in 195 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Brooklyn in the early eighties, my mother and my father 196 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: were both vegans before they had me, and then they 197 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: conceived me. In that I was the oldest in that environment. 198 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I was queen of Fool's first holistic wellness experiment. 199 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: You're a vegan since the womb. 200 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Since the womb, So that means, you know, just to clarify, 201 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: because these days, anybody some type of something with something, 202 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: so no animal nothing, So no animal nothing. I oh, 203 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: you know a little bit of this. So I didn't 204 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: have none of that. For the first five years. She 205 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: had me on just live foods, no cook foods. So 206 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: I was her first experiment to really, you know, you know, 207 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: just see how it was to have a And I 208 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: was a fat eighty I was real fat. So I 209 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, nutritully deficity a lot of the guns 210 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: that parents have if you're not having a traditional American diet, 211 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: you know. So I didn't. I didn't look like any 212 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: any other child that you know. I look like another 213 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: little fat baby, and you know, she had me on 214 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: the live foods, and you know, so I grew up 215 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: in that environment, grew up around her doing the yoga 216 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and the meditation and had me around all her you know, 217 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: like how we're contemporaries doing the work. That was me 218 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: as a little kid with like us, you know, being 219 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: around all these titans in the wellness space and my 220 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: father and her divorce. Unfortunately, my father, he got caught 221 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: up in the substance abuse and crack cocaine, you know, 222 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: so I had to call myself the medium of balance. 223 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,119 Speaker 1: I have both of both worlds, you know, my mother's chlorophyllm, 224 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: my father's crack. Right. But people only see me through 225 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: the lens of my mom, so they just judged me 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: from that, not knowing that there's a whole other type 227 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: of dynamic that makes me me. It aims super nova. 228 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: When I was five years old, she said she named 229 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: me that. She said, that's my power name. She says, 230 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: gonna be your power name to protect you in life 231 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: as you claim it. She was like, she told me 232 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: that when you're ready, you'll you'll walk in that and 233 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: that'll be your protection. So although I'm an artist and 234 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, I do rap and I've used it in 235 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: that modality. I used it professionally as an author too. 236 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: It's it's not that it's it's more of my power, 237 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: my personal power name, you know, and so uh, you know, 238 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: I will have my time in my life where I 239 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: rebuild it. Like to your question against her teachings, we're 240 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: not really teaching, but you know, just kind of you know, 241 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: you want to be in the streets, you know, in 242 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: the streets in the eighties and in the early nineties, 243 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: it was very tough in Brooklyn and I and I, 244 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: you know, doing the men's work, doing the man Hill, 245 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: I self work inspired by the book that me and 246 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: my mother put forward for the brothers. You know, I 247 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: had time to go in journey to know what happened. 248 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: Why did I end up in the streets? Why was 249 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: Because that's that's what you want to for the brothers 250 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: out there for listening, you know, we want to encourage 251 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: men to take the time to just slow down in 252 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: their thinking and their journey to see the trauma trace it. 253 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, whether it be how you show up with 254 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: your women, you know, if you're an abusive brother, if 255 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: you're over dominated like that comes from somewhere that's not 256 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: your original programming, you know, in many different things, right, 257 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: So I was able to see my law to the 258 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: street had to do with my father and his absence 259 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: and him also being a victim of that particular aspect 260 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: of substance abuse. You know, my journey in the street. 261 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: I didn't want to end up like him, so I 262 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't dabble into substance right, So I was 263 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: like a it was like a shield. Look, I'm not 264 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna he's a victim, right, but I'm attracted to him 265 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: in that environment, you know. So I was going through 266 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: that just not long story short. I had that dynamic 267 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: going on. My mother is, you know, on one floor 268 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: teaching twenty one day cleansing modalities, my stepfather, Barba Heru's 269 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: teaching can medic one on one commission courses now Valley 270 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Tradition courses. And then I'm on the top floor, you know, 271 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: counting money and you know, because I was, I was 272 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: hustling guns and you know, I was you know, I 273 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: had my time with gang violence and different things like that. 274 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: So when did you enter into that into that space 275 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: were you were like a teenager and was your mom 276 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: was your family aware. Was that something you were kind 277 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: of like keeping. 278 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: No, no, there was My mom was aware, and she 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: did everything she could to really just stab me in 280 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the path. I mean, I didn't really have any excuses. 281 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: I had great male Like my stepfather was awesome. I 282 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: had two step fathers by the time, you know, that's 283 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: my second step father, but both of them were good men, 284 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: great men. My mother had a lot of powerful brothers 285 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: that she considered her spiritual brothers that you know there. 286 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: For me, it was really the what my father was 287 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: in the projects, going through his dynamic, you know, and 288 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: and and that that was I would visit him on 289 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: the weekends, and my mother is in the in the 290 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: brownstone right, so like so everybody doesn't really have those 291 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: type of extreme experiences, right, So you know, I'm literally 292 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: going visiting my father with the game bangers and the 293 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: pushes and the dope folks and him in that condition 294 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: and navigating that space as a young man. You know, 295 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to part of a young teenager. 296 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, that's a to say a parent is a crackhead. 297 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: That's a you know, that's a that's a fighting word, 298 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: that's you're ready to pop off, right, So I had 299 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: that armor, you know what I'm saying. Because of that, 300 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: and then my father, my mother's side, of course, you know, 301 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: she's she's been doing this work forever, you know, my 302 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: whole entire life, she's been doing the healing wellness space. 303 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: But she held great space for me. But I had 304 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: to go through the rights of passage. I had to 305 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: go through that rice of passage, you know. So I 306 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: don't blame I don't have that trauma that she did. 307 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: She didn't do something, you know. And then in me 308 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: knowing where my trauma came from my father and me 309 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: wanting to show up as a young man and go 310 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: through that rights of passage, I forgave him in that 311 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: time too, you know, but it took time, right. So 312 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: this is what I show brothers. You know, when we 313 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: have our circles of wellness, you know, do your meditation 314 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: to go visit the young man at those times of 315 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: that trauma confrontation, you know, do your visualizations and and 316 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: and let and release him. Because sometimes a lot of 317 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: our brothers are grown men with this still leading the 318 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: signal of that young, unhealed man as a grown man, 319 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: So you just bringing an unhealed man in the hustle, 320 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: in the and the in the grind and everything you're doing, 321 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and you may be doing amazing things, but that shadow 322 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: self a lot of times comes from that young, undeveloped 323 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: traumatic experience or experiences, and that's who's showing up as 324 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: your host a lot of times, you know. And so 325 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: in order to heal from that, you have to be 326 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: able to get still and objective enough in your reflection 327 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: and go through that space and just go through your forgiveness, 328 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: you know. And so I did that, you know, after 329 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: going through you know, my various levels of the street 330 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: life and learning that and almost getting killed. 331 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: And was there something like was there an event or 332 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: something like catastrophic that happened? And he said, hold on, 333 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: let me take a wait. Was there something that caused 334 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: you just I mean outside of just writing the book 335 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: with your mom like that said, this is obviously like 336 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: there's two sides of the coin, and this is where 337 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, Like, was there a shift? 338 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean I've had a glorious journey outside 339 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: of writing a book with moms. That was a beautiful culmination. 340 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: But you know, almost got killed in the streets. I mean, 341 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: I was you know, I was hustling, and you know, 342 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: my mother was able to she she was aware of 343 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: what was going on me, you know, and she was 344 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: able to come and step in the insto that and 345 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: get me the hell out of New York should be 346 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: down south for at least my last year or so in 347 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: school high school. And that going away is when I 348 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: was able to, you know, san kolef Ford, get back 349 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: into my consciousness, you know, pretty much tap into the 350 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: principles that she laid out a lot of the elders 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: laid out for me, and really just reflect and then 352 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: again I understand what was this attracting to the street 353 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: was coming from. You know, I recognized beyond hanging with 354 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: the homies and the friends and the peers, it was 355 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: really what my father's struggle was and wanting to show 356 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: up strong in that as a young man, and that 357 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: I can survive that even though you've been a victim 358 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: to that, I can, you know what I mean. And 359 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: so that me going through that dynamic and having to 360 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: heal him that young man, you know, at that point, 361 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was still a vegan that whole time, 362 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: even when I was in the streets, but my personal 363 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: awakening that had nothing to do with my mother, just 364 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: for my own self, Healing my own self, which is 365 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: the title of her first book, Heal Byself. You know, 366 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: I was addicted to the processed white sugar, you know, 367 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: and and and again in my meditation, I got to 368 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: see why why was I always eating sweets beyond the 369 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: taste good? Because I was feeling bitter. See, when we 370 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: begin to trace the why, right, the addiction, the the 371 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: the attraction is a portal, it's a gateway. But most 372 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: of us don't ask the questions or quest storn. We 373 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: don't quest storn to go into that because we're scared. 374 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: It's it's a deep places battle. But that's the that's 375 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: the glory, is actually asking the question and going forward. Right. 376 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: So the process white sugar sugar naturally from sugar cane, 377 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: is naturalist. It's in our fruits, it's in you know, 378 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: the sugar cane plant. But when you when you I 379 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: take extract the the uh the sugar and you heat 380 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: it up, that's when it becomes an addictive substance. And 381 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: so it's the number one legal drug on the planet. 382 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: It's the universal is something that we all engage in 383 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: different degrees. Began and non vegan doesn't matter, like we're 384 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: all engaged in that. So in me, I was ding it. 385 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean it was just like I did eat no meat, 386 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: but I just ate candy every time I could. 387 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm healthy. I think that's the misconception too. 388 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: So I knew I was that that. I knew that 389 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: wasn't healthy. But I did understand ve get healthy with 390 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: that modality right, not meeting meat right, but on one level, 391 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that the flesh, right, but I'm doing 392 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: that sugar crack right. So my father's dealing with crack 393 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: cocaine substance abuse, I'm dealing with sugar. Care had a 394 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: different addiction, right, But I recognized it was coming from 395 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: me feeling sad and having you know that the father, 396 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: the father that I love, you know, him not being 397 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: able to be strong enough to really show up, you know, 398 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: And so the sugar became that. And so when I 399 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: was down south by myself, I had my mom and 400 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: make me my green juices. I'm gonna, you know, give 401 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: me the you know, the the the the nutrients to 402 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: get me back into alignment. I had to pop into 403 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, muscle memory, and what I remember coming up 404 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: holistic you know, so I had to do my own meditations, 405 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: had to Nobody was making me meditate. I do my 406 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: own remember to do my yoga, my stretching. So I 407 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: was taking I was still a young street kid, remembering 408 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: my my wellness, metaphysical things that I needed to do to 409 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: the tap in and make me a better person for myself. 410 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: So everything came online. 411 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: You know, had you been, had you been meditating as 412 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: like a young child as meditation, do something that you started. 413 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: I used to teach meditation. My first class was when 414 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: I when I first started teaching our ten, I taught yoga, meditation, 415 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: and tai chi. I had sixty students every Saturday. Whoa 416 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: to knowledge a student? 417 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: What the fuck are so? 418 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: Just the contents so so so you can imagine me 419 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: being in the world now with this is standard everybody's yoga, stretching, movement, 420 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: meditation and tension, mindfulness. This is my whole. This is 421 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: this is me doing this fighting with people who thought 422 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: I was weird and strange kid, because I'm talking about 423 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: mindfulness and breathing and meditation and what are you talking about? 424 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And you're not eating junk 425 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: food and you know at the time, you know, not 426 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: eating the sugar crack, just eating, you know, going to 427 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: school with uh with organic goppoos and and sprouted wheat spots, 428 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: sprouted whole whole grain sandwiches and fighting because my homies 429 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: had the boloney sandwiches and why are you eating the 430 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: sprouts with the toe food? You know what is that? 431 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: And so I had to fight, you know. So it 432 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: was a fight for me as a young man being 433 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: raised with these principles. It was always a fight. Had 434 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: to fight just to beat a young began, you know. 435 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: I had to fight because I was the strange one, right, 436 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: So it was a fight between what my mother's world 437 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: was and my father's well was. Hence me being a 438 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: wellness warrior, right, So I call that that affirmative because 439 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm fighting for the better quality of my body, mind, 440 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: and my spirit while I navigate this life. Right, So 441 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: I do everything I can to have the best quality 442 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: of life from a warrior's perspective. Why, we also came 443 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: from the streets, so I understand that rights and passes 444 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: I had to go through as a young man, you know, 445 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: being in this country, as our people, especially the brothers, 446 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: we go through that street rights of passage. You know, 447 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: we go through that. You know that we navigate that 448 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: warrior space a lot of times to our dismay, you know, 449 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: but we navigate it. So concluding the story with the 450 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: sugar crack, I remember I was breaking out, skin was 451 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: looking bad. And I remember when I was on a 452 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: variety of greens, you know, the the micro nutrients I was. 453 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: My skin was always good. I was out of energy. 454 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: I was always a vibrant. And my mother when we 455 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: were when we were small, she three times a day minimum, 456 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: she's giving us some type of green juice, whether she's 457 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: juicing the cucumbers to celebrate, the spinas to kill or 458 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: you know, or she's doing the micael nutrients with the spirillina, 459 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: the corilla, you know they out fout for the dead 460 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: in the line. All of the green Michael nutrients the 461 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: chlorophyll family, right, So she'll she'll just given us that 462 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: because she's we're not getting sick, we're not getting sick 463 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: like everybody else. That she's not getting us anocolated. So 464 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: she was we were able to navigate successfully because she 465 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: was pro nutrient right. A lot of the parents that 466 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: were transitioning to become vegan vegetarians. If they didn't master nutrition, 467 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: not just eating food, but like really understand michael nutrients 468 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: and how much to give your child and right. If 469 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: they didn't understand what that was, then they will be 470 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: called out and they were. Their families in the eighties 471 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: were not supporting, especially black black folks, you know, doing 472 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: this type of natural lifestyle. It was really a rare, 473 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: so you had to She was pro nutrient right and 474 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: was making sure that we had everything we need so 475 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: we can navigate. So I remembered all of that when 476 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: it was my time to pretty much heal my own self. Okay, 477 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: so I did. I went through that process, and I 478 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: remember going to the Helpful Store one day. I took 479 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: a gallon of greens and uh, I'm gonna took a 480 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: gallon of water. Went to the health of store and 481 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: I got a quarter pounds of the of the weak 482 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: grass burre, leading of the alfalfa, the dana line, the corilla, 483 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: and I asked for a half a pound of the ginger. 484 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: Ginger's good for digestion but also works good with the 485 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: chlorophylic micronutrients. I took a taper spoon of each of 486 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: them and put it in a gallon, shook it up 487 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: and started sipping on that for seven days, and my 488 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: addiction to the sugar crack was going because see the 489 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: process white sugar. I call it the sugar crack because 490 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: it's it cuts the oxygen flow through the body to 491 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: the brain. And this is why you get You get 492 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: the hype, and then you get to get the crash right, 493 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: and you need more to get back up right. And 494 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: so but that's creating that toxic environment in the bloodstream 495 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: and the lack of blood flow. So the chlorophyll and 496 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: its derivatives to micronutrients, the grains, it does the opposite 497 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: of what the sugar cracker is doing. It puts the 498 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: oxygen back into the bloodstream, so it causes the flow. Right. 499 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: So everything that the sugar was doing to stop the flow, 500 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, I read, I re energized the flow by 501 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: having the grains. And once I was able to do 502 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: that for myself, and remember everything my mother taught me 503 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: about micronutrients and the greens and detoxing and especially using 504 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: the chlorophyll properties, I claimed it for myself, you know. 505 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: So this did become old Queen and Fuld's son is vegan, 506 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, because I was raised. It became this is 507 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: my personal testimony for myself overcome my addiction to the foods, 508 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: but then not only overcoming the addiction by doing the 509 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: cleansing physically, understanding what was the root cause emotionally, why 510 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: was I even here in the first place eating all 511 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: of these sweets because I felt there was a bitterness happening. 512 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: I was able to be honest with that process of 513 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: why I was o ding on eating junk food. Right 514 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: then I was able to forgive myself with that and 515 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: heal that. And therefore, when I was physically cleansing with 516 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: the greens and then emotionally healing letting go together, that 517 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: created an environment for me to transform and transcend. It 518 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: wasn't just me detoxic and not checking that emotional space 519 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: or checking emotional space but not doing the physical work right. 520 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: It's holistic meaning that everything comes online. Your whole being 521 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: has to come online. It's not about perfection, but you know, 522 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: every day you do something to engage your whole being 523 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: to come online, to be the best version of yourself, 524 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 1: even it's just for that moment, you know, and then 525 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: you observe yourself. So so this I'm just showing giving 526 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: you all, just the genesis of some of the things 527 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: that I was dealing with, because it's so much, but 528 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: without overwhelming the listeners in y'all, just let y'all know 529 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: just these are the different dynamics I had to navigate 530 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: through and find my balance. And that's pretty much the 531 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: journey that I that I'm blessed to have taken forgiving 532 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: my father, wanting to connect with the homies in the street, 533 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: the geez, but in a more productive, healthy way, you know. 534 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: And so after I graduated high school, I became like 535 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: this wellness evangelist. I would go to my mom's twenty 536 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: one day classes and talk about my own personal my 537 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: own personal transformation, you know. And I would walk around 538 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: New York with my gallon and everywhere I went to 539 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: have my gallon, you know, and people asked me, Hey, no, 540 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: but what you're doing, what you're doing, I'll just tell 541 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: them what it was. I wasn't trying to convince them, 542 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: convert them. I was just sharing that I was addicted 543 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: to the sugar, and having concentrated chlorophyll greens, you know, 544 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: helped to give me ridly me of my addictions and 545 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: my you know, afflictions to that and hey, man give me, 546 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: give me a remedy, let me let me hear something you. 547 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: So I would just be sharing it as I would 548 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: go by as just passing testimonies and remedies and people 549 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: like man, I did I try it at work? So 550 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: I just would be doing it like that. Around that time, 551 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I met our beloved sister Erica Badu. Right before baydus 552 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: b I Doism came out in ninety six, I was 553 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: performing with my band at at this place called the 554 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Boom the Book and Tea Party, I think it 555 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: was the Book and Tea Party, and she was in 556 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: the audience and we would have featured act that that night, 557 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Me and my band at the time Altered Egos and yeah, 558 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: we we taught. Now we killed it, and you know, 559 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: her presence was I was like, who is this? I 560 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: saw her in the audience, you know, I didn't know 561 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: who she was, but she the same energy she has, 562 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, as we know her, She had that same 563 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: type of spirit, that same queen energy spirit. Right, So anyway, 564 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: we connected after the show, she you know, she says 565 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: she loved the show and we bonded and then now 566 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: talking after the show, she we just talked about We 567 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: just talked about everything for like hours, just looking at 568 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: each other, talking about life. And then she talked about 569 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: how she uh. She talked so about healing and holistic wellness. 570 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: I talked about my journey as being raised vegan, and 571 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: she she just mentioned Queen of Four and she just 572 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: got a book called Hill Byself. I said, it's very interesting. 573 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: I said, that's that's my mother. Yeah, So we just started. 574 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: So we bonded on that, and so one thing led 575 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: to another, and eventually I ended up having a savings 576 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: like meet moms. I brought it to the house that 577 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: I meet my mother. My father Boba Herru who actually 578 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: made her her first uncle. She saw the uncle ring 579 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: that's who, that's who lives to what the auns initially, 580 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: so I let them meet the parents and you know, 581 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: and they we all it became a family. We took 582 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: it and she was in New York signed, but she 583 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: didn't really tell nobody she was signed, you know, working 584 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: on music. But you know, she let us know, you know, 585 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: what she was doing. We didn't even know. I had 586 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: no idea how big it was going to becoming, what 587 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: she was doing. But I would go to the studio 588 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: with her and it was phenomenal being in the beginning 589 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: of that I doism experience. As a matter of fact, 590 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: a little Badu history for those that love Erica, a 591 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: little trivia that next like no, the next this is 592 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: that next lifetime song. I was supposed to be the 593 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: guy speaking in the middle in the beginning. You don't 594 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: ever you know, I really, but she had so she 595 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: had me in the booth in relationship. She had me 596 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: in the booth. But I kept laughing because she kept 597 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: making these faces and because she first people don't know 598 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: she's a she's a comedian. She could do stand up, honestly, 599 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: like at the level she performs as a singer that 600 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: folks that know her closely, she has that level skill 601 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: that she can do stand up. So she's telling me 602 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: to be serious with her. She's looking at me with 603 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: those eyes and you know, telling me to tell her, 604 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, trying to kick for me to kick it 605 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: to her, to convince her that I need her this lifetime. 606 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, as I kept laughing, I would try to go, yeah, 607 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but you know I don't 608 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: want to get with you. Then let's start, don't say focused. 609 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: It just kept happening. You couldn't do it. I couldn't 610 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: do it, missed, So she pulled. She pulled either either 611 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: she pulled the producer, somebody in the camp. So the producer, 612 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: the writer, somebody was affiliated with the session. He came 613 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: in and he got serious and he did it, and 614 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: I missed my opportunity. 615 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: On next you know, her relationship put me in an 616 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: awkward position. 617 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm just feeling you. I'm just trying to. 618 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Opportunity supposed. 619 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. So all of that, So all 620 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: of that happened, right, and so so you know, now 621 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: with this newfound you know, excitement for wellness. My sister 622 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: took me on tour with her, but who took me 623 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: on tour? So so she was my first introduction into 624 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: the world as uh the medicine man known as the 625 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: hip hop medicine Man. As a matter of fact, I got 626 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: I got the aff the affirmative title hip hop medicine 627 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: Man because we were on tour and we did a 628 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: bunch of dates for Buster and Rhymes, and I would 629 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: see him in split and I would you know, with Erica, 630 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: I had to be on the road with my juicer 631 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: because I was, you know, I was the medicine for yes, 632 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you know. Andre Dre with two thousand was on the 633 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: tour with us when he could be and uh at 634 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: that point she was. 635 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 4: Predict with seven. So I was thinking all the juices. 636 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: I mean, we went all around the world, but anyway 637 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: west around. Every time I would see him, I'll run 638 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: and give him a green droops. 639 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: He said, oh, I got to drink it now, nobody's all. 640 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 5: He said. 641 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: You know, you're a medicine man. You know, your hip 642 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: hop's medicine man. When he said it, it stuck. I said, yeah, 643 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: that's pretty much. I'm a hip hop artist. I love 644 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: this work, you know. And yeah, so you know, she 645 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: took me around the world and I met all types 646 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: of people and just I would just share the wellness ministry, 647 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: you know, and between me traveling, I started this thing 648 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: called the hip hop Meditation cycle in the nineties, and 649 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 4: that was more for the artists. 650 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 5: I saw see a point about that I meditate, you know. 651 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: So I bought back those principles when I was ten, 652 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of artists I knew were 653 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: dealing with anxiety and stress, you know, even though they 654 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: have love, blessings, and things happening to them they didn't 655 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: even know how to send to themselves. So I said, 656 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: you know, this'd be a good way to all the 657 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 4: hip hop artists I appreciated and all its and stuff. 658 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: Let's bring Miguel. Let's just meditate, you know, and have 659 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 4: them tap into those techniques. And so these are the 660 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: things that I started just doing in the genesis of 661 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 4: me back in the day, just really making this holdist well, 662 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: which is part of my calling in a street light. 663 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: At once I was able to you know, transcend that, 664 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: you know, I was still connected, just not in a 665 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: negative way. At the same time, around in the ninety 666 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 4: started organization called the Unified Thehood Hilberhood at that time. 667 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: At that point, you know, in the in the mid 668 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: to late nineties in New York, whether the West Coast. 669 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 5: Loved it or not, crips and bloods, that was what 670 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 5: it was. 671 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 4: That was what even a lot of the gangs that 672 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: were affiliated before got absorbed into a lot of that. 673 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: So it became really really ground zero crazy, you know. 674 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 4: And so in the midst of that, you know, all 675 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: the tools again I learned from my moms and the 676 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: peoples and the elders I just use those same principles 677 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: of unity and meet gay mediation and really just tried 678 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: to work on, you know a lot of the problems 679 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 4: that Phillips would have a you know, the conflict and 680 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: create conferent resolution, you know. So that became a passion 681 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: of mine, you know, just helping to stop a lot 682 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: of the gang violence in my city and in neighboring cities. 683 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: And so the passion between you know, uh, fealing you know, 684 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: dealing the hood with the wellness and unifying the hood. 685 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: That became pretty much what I've been known as in 686 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 4: the many works I've done from those Mormon sins, you know. 687 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 5: And that all brings me more stuff. 688 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: But that brings me to the current project embody work 689 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: called The Wellness Warrior, which is the book that me 690 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: and my mother just put out called Man Heal Thyself 691 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: Welvis War's Journey the Self Mastery, And so it's it's 692 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: a book inspiring you know, men to be excited about 693 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: their self care, you know, and to be excited about 694 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: you know, owning their healing space. And the more they 695 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 4: do that, they can unlock their true power, their masculinity 696 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 4: and their Godhead, you know. Not what was told about 697 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: how we are supposed to be masculine based upon our trauma. 698 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: You know, our trauma coaches have become what we use 699 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 4: as our masculine signal. And in some levels it may 700 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 4: have it may work as an interface, but ultimately it 701 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: it leads us with in a situation, heart attacks, hype 702 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 4: of tension, diabetes is not neglect. 703 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 5: Looklect. 704 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: A lot of men are dealing with a lot oftglect 705 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: of self. So you when you're neglecting yourself, you leave 706 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: yourself open for attack internally externally, you know. 707 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: And so. 708 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: The call to action is for the for the warriors 709 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 4: to become, you know, beacons of their own wellness. You 710 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: know how women have y'all example, like this show, y'all 711 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 4: create spaces for for conversations and growth and development and 712 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: for engaging. Right, but the men that love your show 713 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 4: and men that come and support the sisters and sister 714 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: just like you all, you'll create the space. But we 715 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 4: must do the work that in the space that's created. 716 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 4: You know, we must own our work, you know. And 717 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: and the more we could be inspired by the women 718 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 4: who are taking action. Because women, no matter where you are, 719 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 4: you'll find ways of fellowship like the like they have 720 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 4: a day coming up in the next retreat. Thanks right, right, 721 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: So example for that, like you said, sisters, come out, 722 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: we have this retreat going on. We're going to be 723 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: in this part of the world. We rocking and rolland 724 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: we're going to do this healing. So you know, this 725 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: is the standard of what y'all do these days. Y'all 726 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: do that online, your fellowship, you'll do the work. And 727 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: so even when women are going through different traumatic experiences 728 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 4: and transitions, because you'll have those sister's circles, you know, 729 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 4: it helps you'll navigate, It gives you twos to you know, 730 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 4: really get back into your power quicker, you know. And 731 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: so inspired by a mother's work, particure, women, inspired by y'all, 732 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 4: inspired by many different sisters that I admire doing the 733 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 4: wellness work. You know, I felt it was an imperative 734 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: that we set up a paradigm shift for men that's 735 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 4: beyond the algorithm that allows brothers to go deeper in conversation, right, 736 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,959 Speaker 4: and for brothers no matter where they may be at 737 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: and their social economical structure, you know where that may be, 738 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 4: even from the point of being heterosexual or the rainbow 739 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 4: community brothers. Right, this men coming together here. You know, 740 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 4: that's the call action for men to come in heal 741 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: because truly, if when we're men come together and to 742 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: address the journey of trauma and own that space and 743 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 4: do the daily work to let that go is transformative 744 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 4: not only for yourself, but then you wouitnize and other 745 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 4: men going through that transformation. 746 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: Right. 747 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 4: And so that that's the space that we set up 748 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: with Manhill byself as a non judgment zone. It's not 749 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: about being alone perfect right, right, But it's about laying 750 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: out the tools to encourage men to own their space. 751 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 4: So men are responsible for one of the first in 752 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 4: the first chapter is called the family man of unity 753 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 4: and wealth. 754 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 5: And so that affirmation of the family man of unity, 755 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 5: be wealthful. 756 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: All starts with you and you and your tribe, right 757 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 4: and so and where do you have have? 758 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: Not? 759 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: That's going to come from understanding what that journey was 760 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 4: for you and your family, right. But in you you 761 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: have the tools to unlock that if you're willing to 762 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 4: do that work, right, you have to unlock and them block. 763 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 4: But if something happens to that little five year old, 764 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 4: that ten year old, that fifteen year old that he 765 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: doesn't really talk about. See, most of our women don't 766 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: even know us, for they know, y'all know our straw man. 767 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 5: You know I represented representative and y'all, y'all selects. 768 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 4: Y'all collectively celebrate aspects of our straw man and our 769 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 4: presentation so much that even if we're not trying to 770 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 4: be that, we lock into it just to get y'all, 771 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: just to get your's attention, to getting into your spaces. 772 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 4: So a lot of times it's the trauma, it's the 773 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 4: trauma coats of ourselves that our women have come to 774 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 4: acquire from us. Even though you'll want, you'll want, Yeah, 775 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 4: you're celebrate, you want to you want the other side 776 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 4: of that. So so so you know, helping men navigate 777 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: that without the without the red pill blaming of the woman. See, 778 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 4: I definitely support the red pill manner spears coming into themselves. 779 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 4: I'm against using the energy to women blame. I call 780 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 4: it beta complaining. 781 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 5: That's what I call it. 782 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 4: Because all of that argument in the comments and chatty 783 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 4: patty talking about women and what they're not doing. I 784 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: would I would have just used that same intensity and 785 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 4: focus to encourage men to hold themselves account and when 786 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: I correct and be the better version of themselves to 787 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 4: attract better as they are doing the healing work, you know, 788 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 4: saying attract more better options because you're you're the better option, 789 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 4: but using it. But if we if we use the 790 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 4: energy to bash the woman, not calling a woman out 791 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: for you know, an dispression or unbalanced activity, you could 792 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 4: do that right, But to bash into fame and disrespect, 793 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: it's just a waste of your vital masculine force. So 794 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 4: that's my point with when the hell work of man 795 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 4: heal thyself, let's don't waste the vital force. That's let's 796 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 4: just take the energy inward and really go where the 797 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: trauma may be ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. And then 798 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: if you can free him up and release that young 799 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 4: man from that place of what you've been holding on to, 800 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 4: you may be able to even hear your woman in 801 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 4: a different place. You may even be able to attract 802 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 4: in a different capacity because you have unblocked yourself. 803 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 5: Right, So you know, not without over over talking that. 804 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 4: This is the principles that we work with in the 805 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 4: Rights of Passage that we do twice a year. It's 806 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 4: online training, and then in the book we use the 807 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 4: affirmations to encourage men to take on the work. 808 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 5: The first assignment is called the forgiveness letter. 809 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 4: We have brothers when they come together and write a 810 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 4: giveness letter to find a time and trauma in their 811 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 4: life where they were mad at themselves for not being 812 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 4: strong enough to withstanding certain type of experiences and really 813 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 4: face him. 814 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 5: So throughout the training there are different men have to 815 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 5: face themselves in different ways that with certain questions and 816 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 5: certain excignments. 817 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 4: They've never really worked to this question. 818 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry, I'm okay against this, and you've been. 819 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 3: Dropping a lot of jobs. I was going to say 820 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: all things. Thinking about your mom's book and there's a 821 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 3: there's an assignment in there. Yes, take a woman and 822 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: talking about like writing out like all the people that 823 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: it like writing all the people that you use they 824 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 3: slept when you stuck with all the men that you've 825 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 3: slept with, both people that you' allowed to enter your body. 826 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, what a terrifying assignment. 827 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 2: You know powerful, but it's it's terrifying. And if someone 828 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 2: didn't like but if. 829 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 3: Somebody to do it, but you never do it, and 830 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 3: even even the thought of doing it is like all. 831 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: Right, is this. 832 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: Okay? 833 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 4: Keep going, So what was what was Queen's points she 834 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: was saying to do that? For what what was woomill 835 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 4: she saying? So basically she's saying, right, identify those men 836 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 4: and then like forgive, forgive yourself, Like what was the 837 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: next step that she. 838 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 5: Was I mean, I didn't dive all the way. 839 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I read that, and I was like, ship, But 840 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 3: what I was also going to ask you to was, 841 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 3: you know, we were talking about circles and women's circles, 842 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 3: and and because you've been in both spaces defiely, like 843 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: you know, watching circles that your mom is created and 844 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 3: now creating your own, people always ask us. 845 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 2: Like, what are you going to do like a co 846 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 2: ed retreat? 847 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know how to. I 848 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: don't I don't like, I don't got to leave the men, 849 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: like you know, I'm just curious, like what are the 850 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 3: differences in these type of circles between men and women? 851 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 3: Like what like because I'm assuming I'm imagining that they 852 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 3: are there's probably similarities, but then there's probably a lot 853 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 3: of differences because men and women need different things access 854 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 3: these parts of themselves. 855 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 4: So the main difference is men opening up like but 856 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 4: because and this is think about it is these are 857 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 4: not these are men from different social economics backgrounds. So 858 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 4: they're not like, oh, those are just the guys of 859 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 4: a conscious guy. No, it's it's it's all the types 860 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 4: of men you know, typically complexion wise, like it's well, 861 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 4: you know what there and and so I don't like no, no, 862 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 4: but I'm giving you I'm only giving you a caveat 863 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 4: to that because sometimes and now, when we talk about 864 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 4: any type of consciousness, like some people who are not 865 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 4: necessarily aware of themselves, they'll limit them they grouping or 866 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 4: you don't want to them right, right, and and and 867 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 4: so what they do they automatically divorce themselves on opportunity. 868 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 4: And this is not because is we're not when I'm 869 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 4: calling all men to the comments into the healing space, 870 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 4: it's not, it's not it's not the man's who meditating, 871 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 4: it's all men wherever men at my My calling is 872 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 4: man is man's responsibility. Women set up the circle, but 873 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 4: we have to be the workers in the circle that 874 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 4: is set up. In the circle that I'm talking about 875 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: with women's set up is the example that y'all take 876 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: by like creating spaces for y'all to do y'all's work, right, 877 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 4: So that that's that's that's what I'm inspired by. So 878 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 4: I was just give you that just just for that part, 879 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 4: just for the milicism who are tapping in with us. 880 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 4: But the the the university with all these men are childhood. 881 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 4: It all comes back to that little boy. That's that's 882 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 4: who we're talking to. The whole twelve weeks is a 883 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 4: little boy that is now a man that has responsibilities 884 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: as children, has a wife, went through divorce, several divorces. 885 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 4: Not mad at what still man the women, you know that, 886 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 4: So there's different, you know. So that but we start 887 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 4: going through the healing work Stark going to the meditation assignments, 888 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 4: start going through you know, the others have to take 889 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 4: their spiritual baths and then the spiritual bash you put 890 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 4: your herbs in, you know, so that they're also on 891 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 4: a daily herbal regimen. The herbs you know, every seven days. 892 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 4: You know, we moved that. The whole concept is we're 893 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 4: going through the body of man. So twelve states of man, right, 894 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 4: So you have the crown, you have mid section, you 895 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: have your base, you have your foundation, and so they 896 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 4: are herbs that work with each of the levels. Of 897 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: their body. Yeah, because we're brothers taking herbs for every 898 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 4: area of their body. So you know, you have like 899 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 4: let's say, you know then you know the Marcker root 900 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 4: is good for the reproductive right, uh, the hours good 901 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 4: for the skin. So at every seven days we're at 902 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 4: a different area of the body. So it's set up 903 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 4: body minded spirit right. So it's the body of man 904 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: reclaiming your body. 905 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: Right. 906 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 5: So you so every seven days you have to do 907 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 5: some type of spiritual bath with your earth. 908 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 4: You have to make going your crew, reclaim your your 909 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 4: your healing your My mother calls the kitchen healing laboratory 910 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 4: in your kitchen and you know, get brothers got to 911 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 4: work them pots. So we teach brothers to get back 912 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 4: into the cold and everything themselves, make his salads, make. 913 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 5: It make your earth right, yeah really, but yet really 914 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 5: get into your nourishing yourself. 915 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: Right. 916 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 4: Then he has writing assignments. He has you know, he 917 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 4: has to do some writing assignments and begin to unlock 918 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 4: and the block like I was talking about, the forgiveness 919 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: letter was one portal, right, and so then he has 920 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 4: to create an affirmation, you know, situation for himself based 921 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 4: upon the state that he's dealing with at that time. 922 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: Right. 923 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 5: So basically, you know, we laid out instructionally every seven. 924 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 4: Days he's tasked with some assignments that he must complete 925 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 4: for himself. He may not be perfect in completing everything, 926 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 4: but the whole point is to creating a wellness environment. 927 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 4: And then that's a paradigm different than what he has 928 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 4: been in from from the trauma, right. 929 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 5: And the ultimate goal is that he comes out with 930 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 5: a better awareness of himself. 931 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: Right. 932 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 4: And so when the man has the better willness of 933 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 4: him self, he's not as judging and dominant with everybody 934 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 4: else because he's kind of it's himself correcting. And so 935 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 4: the whole excitement in the in the brother's healing is 936 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 4: to excite him with the responsibility of himself. It's all 937 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 4: about him restoring himself. It's not about the plannings, not blaming, 938 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 4: finding the root, addressing the group, doing the spiritual work, 939 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 4: the emotional work, the physical work. You know, we also 940 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 4: have our you know, our our quote movement, medicine, exercise 941 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 4: regimens throughout the weeks. 942 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 5: But all of these. 943 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 4: Different things body mind spirits to stimulate him to be 944 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 4: the greater version of prevent himself that he has been 945 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 4: and when he goes to the twelve states of consciousness 946 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 4: plus states of man, now he we call it him 947 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 4: the supreme man of optimum wellness. Now he has all 948 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: the tools he needs as he continues to deploy in 949 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 4: his daily life to grab what he needs to reassess. Right, 950 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 4: Because you're not gonna be perfect maybe next day of 951 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 4: the makeday that right, but you have enough information and 952 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 4: tools around you. You have the herbs awareness, the herbs 953 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 4: where it's the detoxing awareness of your social emotional healing. Right, 954 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 4: So all of these things you have around you now 955 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 4: that because you've accessed this, if you need to bring 956 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 4: them online again for yourself in a community, and then 957 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 4: you have me to hold your accountable to, you know, 958 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 4: like like how your sisters do. You have each other 959 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 4: to hold each other accountable. So if we're in the 960 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 4: beginning stages of making this a standard, that's my personal 961 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 4: dream come true is that you know, we create more 962 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 4: safe space for men to want to come together and 963 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 4: do their personal work and hole and and together means 964 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 4: you know, we have what they call the accountability circles 965 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 4: of other men doing similar work. 966 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 5: Without judgment, just encouragement and meeting men where they are. 967 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: So to your just concluding to your points just about 968 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 4: the difference, there's a lot more similarities of us than 969 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 4: we think there are differences, because I think trauma is 970 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 4: what brings us all together. Good at that you know 971 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 4: it's it's it's. 972 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: People, don't. 973 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you're talked saying this because just want 974 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 3: your opinion. Do you think anyone escapes trauma? 975 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 4: No, not one of us. You can't be a human 976 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:13,240 Speaker 4: being on this planet because because because because the planet 977 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 4: with us in it, in it and experiencing it, is 978 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 4: in a traumatic. 979 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 2: State without experience the world. 980 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 4: But but it's how we transmute the principle of of 981 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 4: the trauma or I pulled the rights of passage right so, 982 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 4: like I said, I said earlier, thalked about my father 983 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 4: and my energy in the streets. I said, that was 984 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 4: the rights of passage. I started to look at it 985 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: different right then, when the pain, I was looking at 986 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 4: it from one level. 987 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, my father, the. 988 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,959 Speaker 5: Traghead, and I had to bang and bang in the street. 989 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 5: You don't know, you know, the typical hip hop rap. 990 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 4: You know, uh bars, you know, you don't you don't, 991 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 4: you don't know what I've been through you don't know. 992 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,760 Speaker 5: No, they don't know you. You ain't You wasn't upstate 993 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 5: with me? No, I wasn't upstate with you? 994 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 4: Right, but no, But but that's real, that's what so 995 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 4: But that all the old that's real feelings with brothers 996 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 4: is feeling like I was upstate alone? 997 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 5: How that makes you feel? To be locked up in 998 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 5: up Cita wore like you. 999 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 4: Wasn't there when I had to eat you know, quarter 1000 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 4: of waters and in cirrub sandwiches. 1001 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 5: Brother, Well, look yeah, how did that? How was that 1002 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 5: environment for you? So? So, so those are some of 1003 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 5: those brothers that are in the circle with us. 1004 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 4: You'd have said, gone through that trauma on that memory, 1005 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 4: you know, and trying to figure out how do I 1006 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 4: transcend that? And so yes, my sister, that that is 1007 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 4: a universal with with us. And this is why I 1008 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 4: think the more men can own themselves in their space 1009 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,479 Speaker 4: beyond their their economics and the materials because we become 1010 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 4: some material flexed and our women support material flex that 1011 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 4: we abandoned the other sides of us. And what happens 1012 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 4: is in that abandonment, right, we show up only collecting property. 1013 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 4: So if I date you or you my woman. 1014 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 5: Just be on my property. 1015 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 4: You're like the things I'll You're no different than my 1016 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 4: Gucci belt or the Burking bag I got you, or 1017 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 4: the house that I bought. 1018 00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 5: Or the car. 1019 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 4: You you're my thing the kids we had on my 1020 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 4: things say because because everything has been pro material. But 1021 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 4: when when it's pro holistic, I recognize the body mind, spirit, 1022 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 4: you know, when the physical connection we have as an 1023 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 4: example of the spiritual opportunity we have to unlock if 1024 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 4: we choose to do so. 1025 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 5: Which is also our mental and soldiery emotional connection. Right, So, 1026 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 5: once wegin to diversify the portfolio of each other, we 1027 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 5: start to realize there's so much more wealth into how 1028 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 5: we can see ourselves and others. But until we understand 1029 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 5: that unlocked that portfolio and we only support it with 1030 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 5: one representation, we're limited. And so most men have so 1031 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 5: much more to offer. 1032 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 4: And that's what I also recognize this in these trainings 1033 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 4: is that but they're only held to the standard of being. 1034 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 5: The provider, which is an attribute of God to provisions. 1035 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 5: But it's but. 1036 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 4: You're only celebrated for that of how much you can 1037 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 4: bring in which you can supply. And then then you think, well, 1038 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 4: then man, maybe I can. Maybe I don't that I 1039 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 4: can't show. 1040 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: Since this holistic wellness is about body, mind, spirit, accountability 1041 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: for yourself, being the accountant of yourself, you know, taking 1042 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: an account of yourself so you can be able to 1043 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 1: unlock and unblock, right. And I look at at it 1044 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: as building a portfolio of yourselves, right. And so basically, 1045 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: everything that I'm doing to nourish myself, you know, with 1046 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: minerals and daily nourishment is a reflection of my consciouness. 1047 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: What I'm doing in the social emotional space and how 1048 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. It's a reflection of that, and my thinking 1049 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: and my eating is reflection of how I'm moving my body, 1050 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, and how I'm actually engaging my joints. Right, 1051 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: all of this is threading together. And so the more 1052 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: you can journey into the being accountable of yourself and 1053 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: saying I'm not going to pass to the auspicious title 1054 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: of accountability to you, like I'm not going to blame you, 1055 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to hold me accountable because I have this 1056 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: great portfolio of opportunity that I can unlock them block, 1057 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's the spirit of what holistic 1058 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: wellness is about. Is being the master accounting man, old woman. 1059 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: You know what I called the wellness warrior. A wellness 1060 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: warrior is one that is fighting for the better quality 1061 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: of your life, body, mind, and spirit. 1062 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 2: I know this month is called, you know, plant Medicine April, 1063 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 2: and I think a lot of times when we think 1064 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 2: of plant medicine, we think like psychedelics, or we think 1065 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 2: like cannabis. But like even you you're talking about like 1066 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: you know, first you started realizing like the food you're consuming, 1067 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 2: the sugar you were consuming, and then how. 1068 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 1: Have you suen the chlorophill the plant medicine to detox 1069 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: from the addictions of the sugar. 1070 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think people disregard like the foods we put 1071 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 2: into our bodies are could be medicine or they could 1072 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 2: be the opposite, right, and so they like, you know, 1073 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,479 Speaker 2: they'll go on spiritual journeys with psychedelics and they'll smoke weed, 1074 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 2: but they're not really tapping into all of these let 1075 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 2: me exactly. And also you said something that was like 1076 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 2: that I noticed, and you were saying, you know, you 1077 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: realize you're eating sugar because you were feeling bitter and 1078 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 2: that you had to forgive yourself. And I think that 1079 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 2: is a really big like element that people underestimate and forget. 1080 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 2: And you know, you talked about having to forgive your 1081 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 2: father too, and a lot of times it's like people forget, 1082 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 2: like people don't realize that like not forgiving yourself with 1083 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: for things is what prevents you from forgiving the people 1084 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 2: outside of yourself because you're you know, like it's hard 1085 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 2: to offer up something that you don't offer to yourself, right, 1086 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: And so I think for men, like you know, just 1087 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 2: talking about being able to be vulnerable or have like 1088 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 2: these circles that women have, women have like historically been 1089 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 2: able to be vulnerable with one another. You know, we'll 1090 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 2: gather and talk and cry, We'll gather and talk about 1091 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 2: the breakup. We'll gather and you know, like support each other. 1092 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 2: That's like within our nature because by society standards, like 1093 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: that's feminine. But if a guy is feeling you know, 1094 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 2: a man is feeling like heartbroken or hurt or like 1095 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,439 Speaker 2: trauma is coming up, they may not like go talk 1096 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 2: to their homeboy. There are not a lot of environments 1097 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 2: where they feel that they can do that. And so 1098 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: like a lot of men are not holding like they're 1099 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 2: not holding each other accountable they're not talking about feelings 1100 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: because that seems you know, like feminine or whatever the fuck, 1101 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 2: you know, like, and so I was just telling, you know, 1102 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: even right now for Eric and I, like even in 1103 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 2: our lives, as I see the men around me, friends, whatever, 1104 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 2: trying to develop, and especially because I see us leveling 1105 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 2: up in the healing world, leveling up in ourselves, like 1106 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 2: being more self aware, wanting to be better in ways, 1107 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: wanting to dig into our trauma. It's like it's really 1108 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 2: shining a light on a lot of the men that 1109 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 2: have refused to do that or they have been blocked 1110 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 2: from doing it. Like I see how when a man 1111 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,280 Speaker 2: doesn't focus on his like entire wholeness and his entire wellness, 1112 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 2: how it really does pollute the people around you, you know, 1113 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 2: like your relationships and your marriages and all, like your friendships, 1114 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 2: because not like just eating well and working out and 1115 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: not really going to the root of the problem and 1116 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 2: the trauma and like not talking about it is really 1117 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,959 Speaker 2: what starts to bleed out, you know, like not being 1118 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 2: able to find like a not having anyone you feel 1119 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 2: like you can be vulnerable with, and be not being 1120 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: able to feel like you could be vulnerable with yourself 1121 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 2: right is such is such a detriment to the entire 1122 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 2: community because if women are leveling up, then it's going 1123 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: to be hard to find men to level up with 1124 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 2: us to create these like these family environments and so 1125 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 2: we can create children who know that it's okay to cry, 1126 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 2: and it's okay to grow, it's okay to heal yourself, 1127 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 2: it's okay to have trauma, and we can work through it. 1128 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: But like it's it's imperative that men a tap into 1129 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 2: themselves enough to follow back the trauma and say like, damn, 1130 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 2: I forgive myself, you know, And I think that's something 1131 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 2: for men and women. Even for me. I'm constantly like damn, 1132 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: Like what is like where is the pool at? And 1133 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: it's like sometimes it's just the simple thing is like 1134 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 2: have you forgiven yourself from like procrastinating four hundred times? 1135 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 2: Have you forgiven yourself for doing these things? And like, 1136 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 2: men I don't really have the space and the outlet 1137 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 2: to do that because they are not really talking to 1138 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: anyone about it. They're holding it in and it's hurting 1139 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: them and in turn, it's hurting their families and it's 1140 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 2: hurting their loved ones. And like you said something earlier 1141 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 2: about like you know, like we'll quickly tell a boy 1142 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 2: at three years old, like, man, but you don't have 1143 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 2: no reason to cry, like stop acting like a girl, 1144 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 2: and that inflicts trauma on little boys and put that 1145 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 2: motherfucking doll down. You ain't you ain't no girl, like 1146 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 2: it's a child. And so it's just like we have 1147 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 2: to be more aware like as parents, as moms that 1148 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 2: like how we like the safe spaces we create for 1149 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 2: our boys to express themselves and to be vulnerable and 1150 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 2: to cry and to use their words and encourage it, 1151 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,320 Speaker 2: because what happens is men grow up with that trauma 1152 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 2: and not being able to express themselves. And that shit 1153 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 2: is like talking is medicine. Sharing is medicine, Like Erica 1154 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 2: and I like are like we can we can definitely 1155 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 2: like testify about this, like how much healing, Like our 1156 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 2: entity has grown so much because we've been able to 1157 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 2: feel safe with one another, with our guests and be 1158 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: honest about real shit like I've hurt, Like I've hurt people, 1159 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: I've been hurting. I've been hurt. But like the just 1160 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 2: the the safe space to be able to feel vulnerable 1161 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 2: is really medicine. And like we underestimate the power of speaking, 1162 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 2: and how we can create safe spaces for men, and 1163 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: how men can create safe spaces for each other. Thank you, 1164 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 2: But like, I don't feel like that's a that's not 1165 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 2: a norm amongst black men, that's not a normal amongst 1166 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 2: most men. And and sometimes like because you don't have 1167 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 2: friends that you can share with, honestly, you're not being 1168 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 2: real about your emotions. You're numbed out, and then you're 1169 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 2: not you're not like gathering friends to be able to 1170 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 2: do that. And the thing about like your story that 1171 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 2: stood out to me is like, you know, you went 1172 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: on this journey, you went down south, you started eating, 1173 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 2: you started you know, there's knowledge that you had, but 1174 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 2: you had to relearn it for yourself, to apply it, 1175 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 2: for yourself to be able to offer it. But only 1176 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 2: when you did that were you able to tracked the 1177 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 2: people in your life that made profound changes. You know, 1178 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 2: you like just doing your things, spitting in a bar, 1179 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 2: and then here comes this, you know, amazing sacred woman 1180 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 2: who's going to offer you something and then you and 1181 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: through that relationship, you know, that vibration pulled this relationship 1182 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 2: where she had already really known of you in ways 1183 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 2: because she has was drawn to your mother. And then 1184 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 2: you go on this like epic journey, you know where 1185 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 2: you're like the medicine man and I'm sure like and 1186 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 2: now you've cultivated this book and this program and all 1187 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 2: these things. But it's in the honesty, it's in the 1188 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 2: vulnerability that we can find friends, you can find circles 1189 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: where we can do that and then find ourselves and 1190 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 2: then continue to draw in our people so that we 1191 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 2: can do it as a community. Like as soon as 1192 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: you make that commitment of self awareness, you will find 1193 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: the people and the entities and the you know that 1194 00:57:54,200 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 2: creates spaces and project and multiply this higher vibration. It 1195 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 2: is it's so much a community, like it's an individual job. 1196 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 2: But when you do the individual work, that men can 1197 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 2: go tenfold out into the world and cultivate these like 1198 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: these communities and these families, and like that's why it 1199 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 2: is like it is imperative that men start doing their 1200 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 2: healings so that as women, when we go find these mates, 1201 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 2: that we find like men that are ready and that 1202 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 2: are not required that we do the work for them. 1203 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: Are that not requiring that they're pulling so much for us, 1204 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 2: but that you can find two people committed to the 1205 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 2: healing and the evolution of themselves individually and come together 1206 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 2: to create you know, like family structures and communities that 1207 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 2: do that. 1208 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: You know, like this this is why love. It's just 1209 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: it's we're in a state of emergency. We're emerging, and 1210 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: we're seeing emerging in the sea. We're emerging in seeing emergency. 1211 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: It's a call to action. See, I'm not here to 1212 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: play around with the men I know then are hurting. 1213 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: They have been hurting for a long time. I've been 1214 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: one of those men. And a lot of our men 1215 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: have been not self expressed. And so if they have 1216 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: not been able to show up in their union, in 1217 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: their relationships as their full masculine express sells, only one 1218 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: aspect of their masculinity may have been exalted, you know, 1219 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 1: their ability to provide, which is an attribute of God, 1220 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, provisions and to protect. But then there's so 1221 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: much more that he can contribute. And to your point 1222 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: about really making him excited about you know, having creating 1223 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: a space where he's excited to unlock and unblock himself. 1224 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the point of doing the rights of 1225 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: the online rights of passage. We've been blessed to have. 1226 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: This is spring. So we're about to get into our 1227 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: what we call our seven formation. We have men all 1228 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: around the world, from throughout the United States, Canada, Europe, Africa, 1229 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: the Caribbean that partake, you know, and from different cultures, 1230 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 1: different walks of life that come together and and go 1231 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: through the death the different challenges to challenge himself to 1232 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: be a greater version of himself so he can meet himself. 1233 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: The key that I that I informed brothers on is 1234 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: once you our rights of passage is very important for 1235 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: all of our Aboriginal native brothers and sisters around the world. 1236 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: You know. Colonialization has cut off that flow from elder 1237 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: to youth, you know, and so a lot of the 1238 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 1: things that would have been addressed of a young man 1239 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: feeling not self expressed at three, four, five, six years old, 1240 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: traditionally in our tribal families around the world, we would 1241 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: have had that already squared away. By the time he 1242 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: was seventeen eighteen, he was already in action and activity, 1243 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: social emotional intelligence, physical you know, strength, He was already 1244 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: building these things. So by the time he actually had 1245 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: a mate, he was able to be a holistic man. Right, 1246 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: So that has been disrupted. But our women, our sisters, 1247 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: have been holding that that sphere. And all we have 1248 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: to do as men is be inspired by what we 1249 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: see how women doing. And I think y'all do it 1250 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: well and glorious, and all we have to do is 1251 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: put our man on that. It's like, oh, okay, that's 1252 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: what they do it. Let's bring those tenants into man language. 1253 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 3: Right. 1254 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: It maybe look a little different because we have how 1255 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: we show up, right, But I find the more brothers 1256 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: are sharing stuff express they are, they are now testifying, 1257 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 1: their healing is now showing up. And once I once 1258 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the brothers get to that place of fully being actualized 1259 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 1: and doing his daily ritualistic work for himself, ritualistic for 1260 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: the people talking about listening, I'm talking about, you know, 1261 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: doing his body, mind, spirit, social, emotional healing work, his 1262 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: physical fitness, his meditation, his his nourishing himself every single 1263 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: day without fail, because this is his life. We want 1264 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: his life to be filled with this, beyond the twelve 1265 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: week training that we provide, even beyond. 1266 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 3: The life side. Not just a moment. 1267 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 1: It's not a moment. And what happens when you go 1268 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: through this, brother man, oh woman, you you awaken your power. 1269 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,479 Speaker 1: It's like now your brothers, when you beat the level one, 1270 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: now you get level two, you. 1271 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 3: Become addicted to it. You do, you become addicted to 1272 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 3: like the feeling of progress, the feeling of unlocking yourself. 1273 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 3: I was I was thinking about just going back to 1274 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 3: you know, people asking us about the men's work, the 1275 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 3: men's retreats, and I really do feel like it's not 1276 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 3: something we can do right, Like this is a men's issue, 1277 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 3: Like men have to have to heal them, like women 1278 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 3: cannot heal the men. 1279 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: All the women can tried. 1280 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 3: And if you're listening this right now says you can't. 1281 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 1: Heal him with what you can. Let's let let's let's 1282 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: focus on what women can do exactly, because y'all can 1283 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: arrange the way for the man. 1284 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 3: Well, you can support him, you can show him how 1285 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 3: you like what you are doing. You can be you 1286 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 3: can you can be a beacon of light for his 1287 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 3: inevitable healing. But you ultimately like he has to do 1288 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 3: the work absolutely. And I have a question about this 1289 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 3: because I've been thinking lot about like just what's been 1290 01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 3: happening and on social media and the things I'm seeing 1291 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 3: about and even in our community about this like demasculation 1292 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: of black men, right, and them saying that, like black 1293 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 3: men are becoming demasculated by all of by women, by feminism, 1294 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 3: by society, media, by by just you know, even men 1295 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 3: tapping into their femininity in ways which you know can 1296 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 3: be can be argued. What that looks like? 1297 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: What to you? 1298 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 3: Well, do you believe that and be? What is a 1299 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 3: divine masculine to you? 1300 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 1: A divine masculine is a self expressed man that is 1301 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: a host to the deity identification as God. I have 1302 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: the same like divine feminine would be a host of 1303 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: a god is head. To be a host of this presence, 1304 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: this expression, this cosmic force, you have to be a worker. 1305 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: You have to be willing to be an example of 1306 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: that in your action. That's why it's an attribute, right, 1307 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: It's a part of this of the whole. Right, So 1308 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: of divine masculine would be a man. That is what 1309 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about as well as worries is creating a 1310 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 1: daily living for himself that begins to excite, unlock, un 1311 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,439 Speaker 1: block him to be more self expressive. What he says 1312 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: he is as a man, the body of man. When 1313 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: I look at all men, black men, white men, Asian man, 1314 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Latin men. You know, all men, the body of man 1315 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 1: is wounded. Okay, so the perception of man is wounded. 1316 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Masculinity has been wounded. 1317 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Man. 1318 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: The body of man needs to be healed. It's just 1319 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: not a group of men. All men and those sexual 1320 01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: or rainbow men. All men need their moment in moment 1321 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: with their healing. And healing is a lifelong journey. It's 1322 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: a glorious, hard, hidden, heavy, ugly and beautiful lifelong Jourmany 1323 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 1: you're never healed up, but you're in healing, and they 1324 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,959 Speaker 1: cut your wisdom, says So I said that to say, 1325 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: when we know that men are hurting, period. This is 1326 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: why we have you know, these beta male leaders with 1327 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: their hands on the nuke any point, because they have 1328 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: not built the social motion intelligence of how to deal 1329 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 1: with each other as men, you know, right as a god, 1330 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 1: as a man, God had of this country and so 1331 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: are you. And we have the responsibilities with these citizens. 1332 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 1: How best can we fellowship with each other? So we 1333 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: don't go to a place where we have everybody exposed 1334 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 1: in ourselves exposed, right, So we see the cracks of 1335 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: manhood globally at all levels of society. You know, men 1336 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: are taught to aspire to be this man when you 1337 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: when you meet those men, they're hurting too. I said, 1338 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: with the billionaires and the millionaires, they have some of 1339 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: the same with social emotional issues too. And you were 1340 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: like man. All my life, I was trying to get 1341 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: things to be a master man like you. But you 1342 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: hurting too. So that's what we have we have in common, unfortunately, 1343 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: is the body of man has been wounded. So to me, 1344 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for man to be rebranded. It's not 1345 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 1: about them seeing us this way and that way. Men 1346 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: need just to get together and fellowship and do this 1347 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: work because the perception transforms when we transform. Right when 1348 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: they said, oh, the divine masculine and feminine, you know, listen, 1349 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean you're the best of your mother and the 1350 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: best of your father at the moment of conception. So 1351 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 1: the mask, the divine masculine host the best of his 1352 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 1: mother and himself. Bind feminine hosts the best of the 1353 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Holy Father in herself. If me and you come together, 1354 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: that mother that you are, that father you host the 1355 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: man that I am and the woman that I host. 1356 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: They have an interaction called union entity the entity, So 1357 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: are we ready to do the work to facilitate this 1358 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: glorious entity that is the father in you and the 1359 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: mother in me. We're talking about a masking them. And 1360 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,919 Speaker 1: are you ready for the father in you to meet 1361 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: the mother in me? Is the father in you, sister 1362 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: compatible to handle the social emotional flex of the mother 1363 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: principle in me? Right? Because the man that I am 1364 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: brought me to you? What is the father that you 1365 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: host it? Now? You see I'm going with this and 1366 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: s he's in tune with the mother that I'm hosting. 1367 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Why Because we are the best of our fathers and 1368 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 1: mothers at the moment of conception, wherever they were at 1369 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 1: the best of that, the best of that. We all 1370 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 1: came on the That's why we calm down. We have 1371 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: to go. 1372 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 4: Side. 1373 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 1: That's why I meditated. We love meditating, meditating because we 1374 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: came in on the meditation. We came in on the thrust, 1375 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the breathing, the pump, the eye, the oh, the sound, 1376 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: the tone. 1377 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 2: And it's glorious to me. 1378 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so much that I 1379 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 1: understand that it needs to be cultivated and poured into 1380 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 1: a nurtured Our ancient ancestors in the now valley. The 1381 01:08:54,720 --> 01:09:02,600 Speaker 1: cometic ancestors, they had a hieroglyph called mirror, and the 1382 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Greeks took it on as the concept of love, the heart, 1383 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,560 Speaker 1: the agape, the heart now and ken it and the 1384 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: hieroglyphs on the wall. The hieroglyph was actually a plow. 1385 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 1: It wasn't a heart. It indicated you had to work 1386 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: because they were farmers, right, so they how they showed 1387 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 1: love is well, we're cultivating. We're cultivating. So my connection 1388 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: to you is that we this is our symbol to 1389 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: remind us that we have to cultivate. 1390 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 2: It's not going to just exist. 1391 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:41,520 Speaker 6: We are the divine masculine, the divine feminine are gardeners 1392 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 6: we have we are not tending to our garden. We 1393 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 6: inherit each other with all of the beautiful flowers and 1394 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 6: the roses, but we don't tend. 1395 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: To the garden. And that's why I said, if we 1396 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: were going to go deeper into the divine masculine, divine feminine, 1397 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 1: you become that divine feminine. You're hosting your father in you? 1398 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Is your father ready to date court? The mother in 1399 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 1: the man that you attract. 1400 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 2: Does that have to do with like healing the relationships 1401 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,639 Speaker 2: you have with those people and finding. 1402 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely it's all about the Holy Mother and Father. So 1403 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the more the father allows me the healing of my 1404 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: father allows me to grow Father. The healing of my 1405 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 1: mother affects my matter, my matters, Mother matters, Father, Father. 1406 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 1: I check my family matters in the matter form. And 1407 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: so if I check that and I'm accountable, then I 1408 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: can grow Father. We never escape the principle of the 1409 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,759 Speaker 1: divine masking and feminine. It's always present. 1410 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 3: It's and and and it's dear. 1411 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, sister. They see, these 1412 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 1: are the type of conversations that we just go to 1413 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the beach of our minds with and we just be 1414 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 1: putting our feet in the water because there's a depths 1415 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 1: that we haven't yet to fully explore with each other 1416 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 1: and ourselves. There's a there's a beautiful depths. And so 1417 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 1: the man held myself the energy with that with the 1418 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 1: brothers says, brothers, unlock your depths with jay Z said, 1419 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is Hohole. Right, 1420 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 1: look at your right, you see how you went into that. 1421 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: If men, if men retroduce themselves, exactly how you be 1422 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 1: like this? With the spirit right because they because they're 1423 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 1: doing they really are excited about doing their work for themselves. 1424 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,879 Speaker 1: And the excitement that a man feels to express himself, 1425 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: the divine feminine is already in divine alignment with him. 1426 01:11:58,360 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 2: This is what we're here to do. 1427 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: It's cosmic. It transcends the ego of how we think 1428 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: we're supposed to talk and show up with each other less. 1429 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, this life is so glorious, brothers 1430 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: and sisters, And my prayer is that all of us 1431 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: experience the unlocking as we go and unblocking. And yes 1432 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 1: we'll be hurt, Yes we'll have pain, but we'll heal. 1433 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 1: See these tattoos are reminding me at one time this hurt. 1434 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,879 Speaker 1: It don't hurt no more, but I can look and remember. 1435 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: I remember how that felt. I remember how it felt. 1436 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 1: But I'm not wearing the pain no more. Now it's odd. 1437 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Now it's reminding of the symbology of why I did it. 1438 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: You see how it transcended it. The pain was the 1439 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 1: pain was just temporarily. I don't have to walk my 1440 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 1: life with the pain. I can let the pain come 1441 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: teach me, let me know what it needs to do. 1442 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 1: And it can leave me. 1443 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 3: The pain is like a reminder of your humanness that 1444 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 3: you feel, you can feel that you're not numb. 1445 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,519 Speaker 1: Right, And so I'm saying we don't need to make 1446 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 1: it a block. It's like I used the tattoo example. 1447 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: It came, it got the ink, it hurt, and then 1448 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: it healed right. So so so I'm saying we can 1449 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: use it as a way to move through, not as 1450 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 1: a way to block us for moving that. That's that 1451 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:18,680 Speaker 1: was my point of saying. 1452 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,599 Speaker 3: There's also a level though. What I have found was men, 1453 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 3: a few men actually met in my life, is that 1454 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 3: like this, the the resistance and acknowledging pain, the resistance 1455 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 3: and acknowledging trauma, the resistance in the word healing, well. 1456 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I already got I already got it for you be 1457 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: love it. The thing with when you see men go 1458 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: through that, it's appearing not to be strong. No man 1459 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,560 Speaker 1: wants to appear before a woman with lack of strength. 1460 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 3: But it almost feels like they really feel this way. 1461 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no no no. I'm trying 1462 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 1: to say it's it's it's it's a universal. Before he 1463 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: even got to you, he's doing that to his mother. 1464 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,760 Speaker 1: He's doing that to his women in his life, the 1465 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 1: co worker. It's not even wanting to appear to be 1466 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 1: one week or not knowing. So if my woman come 1467 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 1: to tell me about yo, I got this this wellness 1468 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 1: cleanic is DETX and these herbs, this and that that 1469 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 1: to appear that I'm not weak and I don't and 1470 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I might of know. Oh yeah I hear that. Yeah, okay, 1471 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I heard about that. So I downplay it because instead 1472 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 1: of being open, maybe teach teach me and let me 1473 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 1: learn that. Well, maybe my teaching was changing. A woman 1474 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 1: can't teach me something to learn, but I'm giving you, 1475 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm giving you all the backstage with the men, right, 1476 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: is that maybe he was taught that a woman can't 1477 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: teach him something and if she does, it's gonna make 1478 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,600 Speaker 1: him look like he don't know what he's doing and 1479 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 1: talking about, and therefore she's not going to respect him 1480 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,760 Speaker 1: and think he's straight. So these are the These are 1481 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 1: the These are the undeveloped, unfortunate things that are in 1482 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: the consciousness of our men. So when when we front, 1483 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,600 Speaker 1: that's fronting. That's just a front. Right. It takes a 1484 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: fully alpha man is not fronting because then alpha. Let 1485 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: me let's break down the alpha thing, beau. Anybody gets 1486 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 1: caught up in that. An alpha in principle, it means 1487 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: leader leadership, beta and principle means follow. Alpha female is 1488 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 1: a woman that you know creates her own pathway. She 1489 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,960 Speaker 1: leadsing her own pathway. Alpha man creates the pathway and 1490 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 1: others look at him as an example and they follow suit. Right, 1491 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 1: The most alpha thing a man could do for himself 1492 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 1: is being his transparency. The goddess of how you view 1493 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: me or. 1494 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 2: Not right part is the alpha male. To be vulnerable, 1495 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 2: to be sit with your feelings, offer them. 1496 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 1: But that but that takes like I said earlier about 1497 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,679 Speaker 1: the cultivation, about the you know, the hieroglyph about the plow. 1498 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: It takes cultivation to y'all said earlier, you know, getting 1499 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 1: brothers to a place where they're excited about their daily 1500 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 1: cultivation unlocks that and it changes the attitude. Like you said, 1501 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,719 Speaker 1: how those brothers show up when we talk about healing again. 1502 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to appear to be weaker, right, but 1503 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,439 Speaker 1: he knows he was when you get with him, start 1504 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: talking to him. He want the healing they all brothers 1505 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 1: all wanted. But it's like the how do It's like 1506 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the path do I take to get it? And how 1507 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: do I see myself? And how would my woman? How 1508 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:23,600 Speaker 1: would my women see me? 1509 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,719 Speaker 3: You know well, it's almost like they need another word, 1510 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 3: like the word he okay gets triggering for them that. 1511 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 2: It's something they haven't done, is or like. 1512 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 3: I think about my dad and you know my dad. 1513 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 3: Uh grew up in the South. His mom was thirteen 1514 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 3: when she had him, and she gave him for adoption 1515 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 3: to hit her aunt and they all live in the 1516 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 3: same house together. But he grew up thinking that his 1517 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 3: mom was his sister, and so he grew up thinking 1518 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 3: this until he was about twelve or thirteen years old, 1519 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,599 Speaker 3: calling his mom's sister, his mom telling him what to 1520 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,840 Speaker 3: do and him being like, you're my sister, Like please 1521 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 3: shut up and realize that's your mama. And his school 1522 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 3: teacher told him, you know that's your mom, right, like 1523 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 3: just casually one day at school. My dad to this 1524 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 3: day said it did not affect him. There's no trauma there. 1525 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 3: He said, I thought about it, and I said okay, 1526 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 3: and in my mind and then like my dad, and 1527 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 3: it's like, why do you want this to be traumatic 1528 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 3: for me like you're saying that this is supposed to 1529 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 3: have affected me in some way and it didn't. And 1530 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm just but I've seen how he has showed up 1531 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 3: with women in his life, not letting himself be not 1532 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 3: letting himself love them fully. Because I listen, I'm not 1533 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 3: a therapist, but to me, it's like it goes back 1534 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,160 Speaker 3: to the root of that the first lie, like your 1535 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 3: mother lied to you, you know, and and having a 1536 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 3: distrust and you know, I've encountered this with different men, 1537 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 3: like having things happen in their childhood that they say 1538 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,679 Speaker 3: this absolutely did not affect me. This is what they're saying, 1539 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 3: it did not affect me, or saying I had a 1540 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,520 Speaker 3: really great childhood childhood. 1541 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 1: So there's you say, so so numb. That's what it is. 1542 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 2: The numb tricks you into believing that you honestly don't 1543 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: feel any way about it. I've done it a million 1544 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,600 Speaker 2: times myself. I have sat and like, I don't think so, 1545 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 2: like you're not going to make me feel trauma. But 1546 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 2: the truth is is, like my body, my programming is 1547 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 2: so deeply seated, like you just wake up one day 1548 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 2: like this is traumatizing. It's not going to make me 1549 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 2: suddenly feel feel the pain. It's just that you've conditioned 1550 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 2: yourself for so long to believe it doesn't hurt. You 1551 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 2: can't even register or associate with those feelings because you've 1552 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,600 Speaker 2: removed yourself from the entire situation. 1553 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: Now that's that's a woman saying that, going through it 1554 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 1: as a woman. Right. Well, look and even you saying 1555 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 1: that because you have you attract sis's accountability, y'all? Can 1556 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 1: you can easily unlock into that and change that perception? 1557 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: Now try being a man where every way you look 1558 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: is the man has locked into that limited expression. This 1559 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 1: is why the so of healing are important with the brothers, 1560 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter how hard they come. I'm telling 1561 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 1: you like I'm talking to say. You know, we attract 1562 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 1: all types of brothers. I mean brothers who were in 1563 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 1: and out of the system, you know, the jail brothers, 1564 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 1: former gang bangers, brothers that served in all levels of 1565 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 1: the military. Combat I mean, I'm I'm I'm a combat 1566 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 1: veteran myself. I serve in Afghanistan. Right, So we tracked 1567 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 1: all types of men and once were able to circle 1568 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:30,439 Speaker 1: up and look at different types of men and hear 1569 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 1: their story nobody's fronting no more. And see men, real 1570 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: men when they get together, they don't front no more 1571 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 1: because they don't have to because I'm sorry to don 1572 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 1: the cutry wisdom. So that in that revealing, in that 1573 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 1: ciphering up, we're able to I take them to we 1574 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 1: take them through meditations where they have to face what 1575 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: you said, the numbness, which unlocks the fronting that they 1576 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: were doing what you were talking about, how they, oh, 1577 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't have nothing. My childhood was good. I don't 1578 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 1: that never happened to me. When he goes when he 1579 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 1: takes space to we talked about the breathing again, just 1580 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 1: the breathing and centering himself right, and he's able to 1581 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 1: remove someone judging him doing this. There are other men 1582 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Then breathing. We all in our 1583 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 1: meditation and we'll say, hey, everybody, we go to the 1584 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: number they about, let's go back to five. How'd you 1585 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: feel at five? Trauma is it you have for men? 1586 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 1: When you say trauma is different than women, you have 1587 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 1: to unpack that. So how I would say, like if 1588 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: y'all say a trauma to y'all, y'all kind of go 1589 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 1: into a space where y'all know how to communicate where men, 1590 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 1: I would say, what was your first disappointment with the woman? No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't. 1591 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 1: But I still it's a gateway. The words matters a word. 1592 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,800 Speaker 1: So I'm just telling y'all that, no, the words matter 1593 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 1: in youth crisis. I was just saying that I still 1594 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 1: use trauma, but then I what I and how I 1595 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,400 Speaker 1: unlock it with the questions With men, you have to specific. 1596 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 1: But men are very left brain right because we have to. 1597 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: We want to show up now because we have to. 1598 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 1: We can't be right brain, which is our intuitive side, 1599 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,559 Speaker 1: our God's side, our mother's side, helping to balance our 1600 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,680 Speaker 1: masculine side right of our brain. We want to show 1601 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 1: up to be the knowerst to know it all. I 1602 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 1: want to be the know it all is to impress 1603 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 1: upon you. So I'm pro that. So when you, even 1604 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 1: when you're talking with men and doing the social emotional 1605 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 1: healing work, you're the questions, is what gets him to 1606 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:29,760 Speaker 1: open up the heart space? Hell? And you say, man, 1607 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,600 Speaker 1: he'll thyself right now? I have to. I have to 1608 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 1: take him to a place of or are you hurting 1609 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: right now? Keep it real? Yeah, you know I'm gonna 1610 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,120 Speaker 1: keep it on, honey, I got it right. So he'll 1611 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: he'll he'll he'll talk about all this stuff he got, 1612 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 1: all his bragg and stuff, and then talk about and 1613 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 1: he'll start doing the internal check and saying, way, it 1614 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 1: ain't really he's been lack of self expressed. He ain't 1615 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: really been opened up with his woman. He's been really 1616 01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 1: just mad and angry. Right, So you start to get that. 1617 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Once you start to get those questions going, then you 1618 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: ten brothers on their meditation for them to really begin 1619 01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 1: to do that inventory work and face that shadow side 1620 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 1: of themselves that they've been fronting with for twenty years, 1621 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 1: fifteen years, thirty years in relationships committed with their women, 1622 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: and they women don't even know them because they have 1623 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: never really expressed that side of themselves. Even if their 1624 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: women is expressed the side. Matter of fact, they're attracted 1625 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: to you because you express something that they aspired to be, 1626 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 1: but they have not found the way to unlock. Right. 1627 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,559 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, sis, this we're in the like they say, 1628 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,600 Speaker 1: the cuspos or the beginnings of this. It's beyond just 1629 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 1: the hashtag algorithm or mean, we're really in the beginnings 1630 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 1: of men wanting to create a space for themselves to 1631 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 1: go through their rights of passage to be a better 1632 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,599 Speaker 1: version themselves. And I'm here to support the brothers and 1633 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, with the training, with the book and why 1634 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 1: I can as a brother in support because I'm still 1635 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,800 Speaker 1: in my healing journey with them as well, you know, 1636 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 1: and let and to share my journey with them, to 1637 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 1: let them know that regardless of where you may be 1638 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: at wherever in your journey, you know, we have the 1639 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,840 Speaker 1: tools that we can tap into that can allow us 1640 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 1: to be in the beginnings of what a divine masculine 1641 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 1: experience can be for yourself. And if you can see 1642 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,680 Speaker 1: that for yourself, the potential for your experience it with 1643 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 1: others is limitless. 1644 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 2: Honestly, I want to just like for anybody listening, the 1645 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 2: like just being real, Like just being honest is so powerful, 1646 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 2: Like you don't have to hide. Like everybody's a little 1647 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 2: bit fucked up. Everybody's gone through some ship, everybody's made 1648 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:42,559 Speaker 2: a fucked up decision multiple times. Everybody, there's nobody so 1649 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 2: like feeling like you have to show up a certain way, 1650 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,599 Speaker 2: Like it's such, it's such, it's such a fake perception, 1651 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,879 Speaker 2: it's so such. 1652 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 3: A limited view of your expression while you're here, like 1653 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 3: right here, right now, Like you have this body, the spirit, 1654 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 3: the soul, this time to fully live in your full expression, Like, 1655 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 3: don't limit it. 1656 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 2: Don't hide, like there's nothing to hide from. No one's 1657 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 2: more powerful than you, No one's more powerful than what 1658 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 2: you think about you, Like honestly, like coming on here 1659 01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 2: every week for fucking five years plus crying and shit, 1660 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 2: that's something I didn't think that I would have, like 1661 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,200 Speaker 2: I would be that type of person, but like, who 1662 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 2: gives a fuck. I haven't always said things that were right. 1663 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 2: I haven't always made great decisions, but like it's been 1664 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 2: so powerful and I'm not saying do it to millions 1665 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,919 Speaker 2: of people on the internet. This is a bit extreme, 1666 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:36,640 Speaker 2: but like just releasing it and forgiving yourself and saying, like, 1667 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 2: who gives a fuck If somebody finds out this is 1668 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 2: what happened and this is like and as long as 1669 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,320 Speaker 2: you're like willing and wanting to grow and evolve and 1670 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,559 Speaker 2: say I'm gonna be better than I was yesterday, then 1671 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 2: you're doing enough. And like, like the thing about evolution, 1672 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 2: I feel like it is practice and it is reprogramming 1673 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,599 Speaker 2: because we have learned all of us like the worst 1674 01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 2: ways to deal with our emotional like just all all 1675 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 2: of the shit that like the world brings to us 1676 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: because it's heavy, but like the power to just say 1677 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 2: it and be like ten toes down and just always evolving. 1678 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 2: It's like it requires that you forgive yourself acquires. It 1679 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 2: requires that you take off the mask you know. It 1680 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,519 Speaker 2: requires that you just like be willing to exist in 1681 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,799 Speaker 2: your flawlessness, because we are all flawed. But we don't 1682 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,559 Speaker 2: heal if we hide from it, and we can't heal 1683 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 2: each other, we can't connect on the most human level, 1684 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 2: which we all are human if we can't just be like, hey, 1685 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 2: what's up. I'm sad and I need to cry. Can 1686 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,200 Speaker 2: you hold my hand? Like I'm feeling anxious. I don't 1687 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 2: know why, Like I feel angry, like it has nothing 1688 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 2: to do with anyone outside of me. But like let's 1689 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 2: talk about that. 1690 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 1: So that to your point, beloved, there's two things that 1691 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: need that I that need to happen ultimately in the 1692 01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 1: transformance of the responsibility of self. The more men become 1693 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:59,440 Speaker 1: excited about their self care and start caring for themselves 1694 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: and real fellowshipping on that for themselves and each other. 1695 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 1: Then our women need to as man rebrands himself, then 1696 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 1: y'all need to let the branding of man go mm hmm, yes, 1697 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 1: because because oh well, see, most most times, most times, 1698 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 1: most times, men hold on to these arc types to 1699 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 1: make up impression upon the women that they are attracted to. 1700 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 1: And you know, you have some brothers that have shedded 1701 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,639 Speaker 1: that years ago, like certain type of things that they 1702 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,320 Speaker 1: went through in the streets and certain type of things 1703 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 1: they had to go through, and they'll get a woman 1704 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 1: that instinctively is still attracted to that arc type and 1705 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 1: that's that was normal to him at one point. He's 1706 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of left it alone. But he's digging her and 1707 01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 1: she's really into this arch type and she recognizes in him. 1708 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 1: And it's probably not as big as it was when 1709 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,720 Speaker 1: he was in his you know, uh, deployment of life. 1710 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 1: But but she she likes that, and he recognized she 1711 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 1: likes it, and then he feeds it, right, and then look, 1712 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 1: and then he feeds her that and so then he 1713 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: becomes it for her, but not really where he has become. 1714 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 1: So I would challenge my beloved sisters around the world 1715 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 1: who are doing your self care, yourself work, really it's 1716 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 1: a reflection like if you're taking yourself through your sisterhood 1717 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,680 Speaker 1: rituals and doing your healing and you're rebranding yourself and 1718 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 1: you're tapping into really the divine feminine, then you cannot 1719 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 1: you cannot hold men who are now growing into understanding 1720 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 1: the responsibility of being expressed balanced, divine masculine to old 1721 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: archetypes that you were that you nipples got hard for 1722 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,920 Speaker 1: and your click likes because you like that vision of 1723 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,240 Speaker 1: him that no longer serves him or you that has 1724 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: been outdated. It's been an outdated version of how we 1725 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: think we should be showing up. And so this is 1726 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 1: why I say all men on the planet has been wounded. 1727 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:10,360 Speaker 1: Manhood has been wounded because we have not updated the 1728 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 1: branding we have. There's a standard we've been following all men, 1729 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: all ethnicities or traditions, and he has been outdated for himself, 1730 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 1: for his family society so much. I mean, like, like 1731 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,639 Speaker 1: we've been saying earlier, how people say all the men 1732 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 1: are being attacked toil or the men not being expressed 1733 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,599 Speaker 1: the men are doing the man is wounded. And then 1734 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: so I'm saying I'm excited to hold space for men 1735 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 1: to begin the rebranding process. And it may have been 1736 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,639 Speaker 1: fully expressed two or three generations from that. But I'm 1737 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 1: excited to support our brothers because our men need support it. 1738 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,799 Speaker 1: I'm here to support brothers wherever they are without being perfect. 1739 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,799 Speaker 1: Come as you are for yourself. But I would challenge 1740 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,799 Speaker 1: my beloved sisters, as you continue to do your journey 1741 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: and know who you are and shedding the old you 1742 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 1: don't know to serve you. Don't shed your old, don't 1743 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 1: shad old you that don't serve you, but hold me 1744 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,639 Speaker 1: to the old need to serve you. It makes sense. 1745 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 3: I totally agree with that, and I think that even 1746 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 3: hearing that too, I have to, like question, I have 1747 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 3: to fight something within me, which is like the woman 1748 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,360 Speaker 3: that wants to say, well, then do that shit for me, 1749 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 3: you know. Okay, but with that, I'm saying fighting myself. 1750 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,560 Speaker 3: But then I said, okay, don't do that, and it's like, no, 1751 01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 3: this is the gift that this is how we can't 1752 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,639 Speaker 3: keep doing that. 1753 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't keep doing that. 1754 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 3: So it's like, hey, this is what the man is 1755 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,479 Speaker 3: telling you what we need in order to heal, so 1756 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 3: that we can all come together. The compliment you know 1757 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 3: what I mean, and so I feel like there is like. 1758 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: And you see the way I said it, It wasn't 1759 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,320 Speaker 1: a way to downplay. No, I'm and I'm saying the 1760 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 1: best way because I'm seeing you. It's like like as 1761 01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 1: now imagine mine. 1762 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,720 Speaker 3: Well, I'm thinking about the programming in me. 1763 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm watching it happen in motion, and that is the 1764 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 2: programming of defend, defend, or like are like, wait, but 1765 01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,600 Speaker 2: you didn't do this for me, for me, you but 1766 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,640 Speaker 2: it's like yo, okay, okay, time out. 1767 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 1: Let's stop stop that, stop that so you see that? 1768 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:12,599 Speaker 1: See that? Right? So sisters, what's the process with that? 1769 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,599 Speaker 1: So no, let's just stop there that like that. That's 1770 01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 1: a lot of our sisters, right who feel that way. 1771 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,800 Speaker 1: And you know, even on the healing journey, they'd be 1772 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,799 Speaker 1: like they pop off right, like I think it's positive. 1773 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 3: Eventually you know thyself and you know that you don't 1774 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 3: have to defend that. Oh you do that, so it 1775 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,799 Speaker 3: doesn't hit the same, right, there's nothing to defend. Okay, right, okay, 1776 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,360 Speaker 3: love it, you know. And then you say and even that, 1777 01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 3: even despite of what you just said, I'm still gonna 1778 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,600 Speaker 3: let you do your rebranding. I'm still gonna not let you, 1779 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 3: but I'm going to like do it. I'm not going 1780 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,880 Speaker 3: to judge you for it, right, So I think that 1781 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 3: that's I'm really you know, excited for that. That I'm 1782 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 3: a woman on the sideline cheering men on, like Okay, 1783 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 3: you want to do it, or we're here, we're doing this, 1784 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,439 Speaker 3: let's go for it, you. 1785 01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:57,920 Speaker 4: Know what I mean? 1786 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,400 Speaker 3: And like, I think more we need both of those 1787 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 3: on both sides. But I think especially if the men 1788 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 3: are going to really, if we really want them to 1789 01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,680 Speaker 3: be heal, we have to do that. 1790 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,120 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and that and that's and that's what I 1791 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,040 Speaker 1: would say to the humblest ways. It's like, it's it's 1792 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:17,160 Speaker 1: really a it's a call to the compliment. You know, 1793 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 1: a woman goes, I'm doing this, that that that dad, 1794 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:24,400 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm really loving who she's becoming, right, So 1795 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,680 Speaker 1: it's only natural that you will attract a compliment in 1796 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 1: life to that, to that gesture. That's all iously what 1797 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so the more the sisters are excited 1798 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 1: to support men, however, they are going to show up 1799 01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: as sacred compliments, right. That's that's who we really are 1800 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,559 Speaker 1: for each other anyway. You know what I'm saying like, 1801 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: that's why I said earlier that whatever our issues are 1802 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 1: with our parents, you know, on that inhill exhale, that's 1803 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 1: how we got here. I mean, you know, and whenever 1804 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 1: you feeling anxiety overwhelmed, sister or brother and you're feeling 1805 01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 1: like you can't be self expressed, take that, take that 1806 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,519 Speaker 1: because that's that's us. 1807 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,320 Speaker 6: That, that's that's all of us. 1808 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 1: Well, that's one thing we all regtless of you from Haim, 1809 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 1: from there, you're manny, I'm a woman. We all came 1810 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 1: doing that breath. 1811 01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,759 Speaker 2: We did, we all came through. 1812 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:19,719 Speaker 1: And we're even talking in this beautiful podcast now with breath. 1813 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 1: It's our this, this is our sacred bond with each other. 1814 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,640 Speaker 1: But how we use our breath, how we you know, 1815 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 1: how we decide to use the flow of in each 1816 01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 1: other is what we we we have the responsibility to hold, 1817 01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,519 Speaker 1: you know. And and I would say this, let me 1818 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 1: say this because I have to say this. I would 1819 01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:41,240 Speaker 1: to salute all the women who have been holding warriors 1820 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:44,439 Speaker 1: space for men. I've seen it in their relationships and 1821 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 1: fighting for the best quality relationship, trusting in their men, 1822 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,720 Speaker 1: helping to invest in him in any way she can 1823 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: to really see him win. And so even if he 1824 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: was not strong enough to express it and say it. 1825 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 1: And sisters, if you'll have had brothers had not done 1826 01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 1: that for my brothers, I'm gonna say to you all 1827 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 1: and to all my sisters watching, you are appreciated. Tupac boys, right, 1828 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:09,600 Speaker 1: Tupac boys, you appreciated. You are appreciated. You appreciate it 1829 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 1: because if that brother didn't get it, if he didn't 1830 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: if he didn't understand the blessing he got when you 1831 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,680 Speaker 1: invested in him, that became a ritual to the to 1832 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,640 Speaker 1: the body of man spiritually, you know. And so I 1833 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,680 Speaker 1: saw collect right, because right, And so I would just 1834 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: say to the sisters, don't give up on your superpower 1835 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 1: called nurturing. It's such a glorious, beautiful gift. Don't just 1836 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:43,919 Speaker 1: because unfortunately my undeveloped lack of discipline, you know, created 1837 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 1: an adverse outcome with us. Don't give up your superpower 1838 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,880 Speaker 1: because of some bitter things that I was undeveloped to facilitate. 1839 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 1: And this is why I go right back to man 1840 01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: Hill myself, because we have to teach our brothers to 1841 01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 1: be better facilitators to the women they want to deal 1842 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,639 Speaker 1: with a lot of billas be calling in these powerful, 1843 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:07,280 Speaker 1: dynamic women and can't hold the facility. So we have 1844 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,679 Speaker 1: to teach our men the importance of creating sacred space 1845 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: and why that's important. If you're gonna call into the 1846 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,200 Speaker 1: divine feminine, you have to be ready to host her 1847 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,000 Speaker 1: in all levels of your life. And if you're not 1848 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,720 Speaker 1: ready to host the gods, let the god is be 1849 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,720 Speaker 1: outside until you're ready to host her. Let let her, 1850 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,799 Speaker 1: let her go and let her glow and just admire 1851 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,120 Speaker 1: her afar. She is so or inspiring And. 1852 01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 3: You don't want, No, I don't want, I don't want 1853 01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 3: someone else can no but. 1854 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:45,160 Speaker 1: Listen, but but but but whatever I'm saying, I'm saying, 1855 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,599 Speaker 1: but yeah, not even no, no, see now that I'm 1856 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:53,920 Speaker 1: glad you said that's this masculine or feminine cuffing is 1857 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,760 Speaker 1: not it's not what we need now. I'm not going 1858 01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 1: to say our journey, but right, it's not what's needed 1859 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,439 Speaker 1: from us now. We need to a woman needs to 1860 01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:07,160 Speaker 1: be free, expressed and her autonomy instead of as a man, 1861 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 1: and then together they figure out what that dancing cadences, 1862 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,640 Speaker 1: right right, right, but yeah, maybe maybe step three. But 1863 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:22,840 Speaker 1: then but now, now, you're talking about courtship. Courtship. We 1864 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:29,040 Speaker 1: forgot the the the divine attribute of courtship. Courtship says 1865 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested, you're interested. Let's slow it all the way 1866 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 1: down and let's build on our interests. What happens with 1867 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,559 Speaker 1: dynamic souls that are attracted to each other is that 1868 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:46,800 Speaker 1: they start out in the concepts of courtship. The attractions, 1869 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,639 Speaker 1: the hormones or pheromones, start to accelerate, the abandon courtship 1870 01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:57,759 Speaker 1: principles and get into title. Title is a heavy crown 1871 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 1: for a man and a woman, a king or queen. 1872 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 1: Where's a heavy crown? If you can't sustain court courtship 1873 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,880 Speaker 1: a king and queen in court, you see how I'm 1874 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,360 Speaker 1: going with this courtship. You would not be able to 1875 01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,719 Speaker 1: survive as an exalted queen or king in union together, 1876 01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 1: I would tell y'all, pause titles, don't abandon them, but 1877 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,360 Speaker 1: pause the titling of each other. Create queen of four 1878 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:32,120 Speaker 1: talks about this and sake a woman seasons of development. 1879 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,559 Speaker 1: My mother would tell me, I listened a few times, 1880 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,040 Speaker 1: she told me, until I got my until I had 1881 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 1: to listen like I didn't listen to. She says, you 1882 01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,559 Speaker 1: try to her you love her all that didn't meet 1883 01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 1: her in every season, and when you complete eight season 1884 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 1: with her right every four months, you're gonna meet her 1885 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,479 Speaker 1: in spring. Let's say we dated in spring. That said, 1886 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,719 Speaker 1: you know, this is the courtship, and now some as coming. 1887 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 1: It's another type of her coming through, just like a name. 1888 01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,000 Speaker 1: Some of these coming right and now and now when 1889 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 1: to fall. Look, I may have dated you successfully in 1890 01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 1: the spring and summer, and I don't even know who 1891 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:07,880 Speaker 1: the hell you are by the time the fall with 1892 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:13,160 Speaker 1: the car right right right, So this is why, this 1893 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:17,320 Speaker 1: is why she's especially when I was younger, enjoyed courtship, 1894 01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,599 Speaker 1: long courtships. I know your generations don't have the patience 1895 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,080 Speaker 1: for it. But she would tell me, she said, but 1896 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,720 Speaker 1: it's important that you developed to that if you don't 1897 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,920 Speaker 1: have the patience for it, because you would save yourself 1898 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of trauma, tears, pain, wasted time and energy. 1899 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,280 Speaker 1: But she she was right. There was women that I 1900 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: that I've met in the fall, and we rocked in 1901 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,920 Speaker 1: the fall, dope winter came, we was even more walked up. 1902 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:45,320 Speaker 1: Spring came. I didn't even know who this woman was, right, 1903 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 1: It was a whole different, right, But but by that time, 1904 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,600 Speaker 1: by that time me and her already committed to titling. 1905 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,640 Speaker 1: So then now we moved into the ego of the relationships, 1906 01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,479 Speaker 1: and we abandoned the cultivation. So now so now the 1907 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,920 Speaker 1: woman I'm that I'm entitled, are entitled? Meant the title 1908 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,840 Speaker 1: now comes the ego of that's my queen or that's 1909 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 1: my king, right, And now we get so caught up 1910 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 1: in that we abandoned. We talked about earlier the entity 1911 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 1: called the union, you know, and the union thrives in courtship. 1912 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 1: It thrives in taking time to appreciate the nuances of 1913 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,320 Speaker 1: someone's tone, their voice, you know, asking certain questions to 1914 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,920 Speaker 1: engage their consciousness. You know, a man learning how to 1915 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:28,640 Speaker 1: hold space for his women when she's going through some 1916 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,960 Speaker 1: emotional you know, up and down and whether hormones or 1917 01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,320 Speaker 1: just through life. Right, these things that you can work 1918 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,679 Speaker 1: out in courtship. But when we don't have the cadence 1919 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:43,600 Speaker 1: or the or the the want, need or or temperament 1920 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:47,040 Speaker 1: to really just like nature does it, y'all. See it's this, 1921 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,680 Speaker 1: It's like, right, you know what happens in harberination. All 1922 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,439 Speaker 1: the animals they create their little foods in the falls 1923 01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 1: and dig down. By the time of what that comes, 1924 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,479 Speaker 1: they're hanging out for three or four months into the spring, right, 1925 01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:59,559 Speaker 1: so they're moving into accordance to nature. We are no 1926 01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,760 Speaker 1: longer in cords to nature. And now that's why we're 1927 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 1: out of our nature. Our women are out of her 1928 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,240 Speaker 1: nature because she's abandoning who she knows her superpowers to 1929 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: be because something he did. Right, So she's mad. She 1930 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 1: don't even want to be her no more. She's she 1931 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,680 Speaker 1: sees abandoning her power because of his thing. And then 1932 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 1: he feels powerless because he is he's not self, he's 1933 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,439 Speaker 1: not showing up to her in his full expressed self. 1934 01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,520 Speaker 1: So I think if we can work those things out 1935 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,880 Speaker 1: and be patient with each other, you know, and and 1936 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,599 Speaker 1: and hold space for like like you said earlier, nobody's perfect, 1937 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,479 Speaker 1: like we're all we're all human, we're all in our 1938 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,720 Speaker 1: different levels of feelings and men event eventually opening up 1939 01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 1: in himself that you know. I think, this woman, I'm 1940 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna you know, what is beyond her. I'm gonna trust 1941 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,519 Speaker 1: that spirit is lending me to share. That's what I'm 1942 01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,880 Speaker 1: trying to get. Mento, you're transcending just the ego of 1943 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,800 Speaker 1: talking to the woman you just spirit told you to 1944 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,960 Speaker 1: share and do the ministry in that moment with your heart, 1945 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,599 Speaker 1: you just let it be known that authentic sharing and 1946 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,360 Speaker 1: downloading that clarity that's gonna have a long and lasting 1947 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,240 Speaker 1: impact for you and her. Then you just answer around 1948 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 1: what is she gonna think about me if I really 1949 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,240 Speaker 1: let her know that I'm intuitive too, Because I don't 1950 01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:06,519 Speaker 1: want to tell that because then she may think I'm 1951 01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:10,320 Speaker 1: either crazy or that's that's that's feminine. But I say 1952 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,800 Speaker 1: this to yo, I got you too, Goddesses here, Well, 1953 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 1: then into what I'm gonna be like Peter from Family Guy, 1954 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,000 Speaker 1: what grinds my giars? Let me hear what I can't 1955 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:22,120 Speaker 1: stand now? I apologize with my my my. I'm gonna 1956 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,800 Speaker 1: do a little cursing, little language, not for people that 1957 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,679 Speaker 1: they want to. You know. I don't like that we 1958 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:37,519 Speaker 1: weaponize women in a weak way. That's the most anti 1959 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:41,080 Speaker 1: masculine thing we could do. Let me say this. I'm 1960 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a little hot pipe with this one. I 1961 01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,360 Speaker 1: don't like when we identify someone to be weak, we 1962 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 1: say you acting pussy. First of all, that's why we're 1963 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:58,880 Speaker 1: here because of pussy. So why would I associate weakness 1964 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: what it takes me mother, all the muscles and her 1965 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:06,519 Speaker 1: being to work together to birth me as a whole 1966 01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,040 Speaker 1: being on the planet. And I'm gonna have the nerve 1967 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:15,679 Speaker 1: to associate weakness with pussy. And that's all you niggas 1968 01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 1: is trying to get back up into its pussy, but 1969 01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:24,439 Speaker 1: you associated with weakness. We gotta do better, brothers. We 1970 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,800 Speaker 1: have to stop. And this is why we don't want 1971 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:32,160 Speaker 1: to the feminine side of us. We think it's weak 1972 01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:38,439 Speaker 1: because collectively we have demonized the feminine principle and that 1973 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 1: goes back into the religious colonialization. We're taking women from God. 1974 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,720 Speaker 1: When man became only the exalted God, and women is 1975 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,880 Speaker 1: not no way to be seen. Then she's lesser than God, 1976 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: she's godless. So when I say rebranding man, we have 1977 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,280 Speaker 1: a lot of again I read, I do not appreciate 1978 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:04,120 Speaker 1: and condone weaponizing weakness affiliated with women because you have 1979 01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,000 Speaker 1: weak men and you have weak women. Okay, we're gonna 1980 01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 1: say it, let's make it holistic, but I really don't 1981 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,920 Speaker 1: like that because you know, as a hip hop as 1982 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,200 Speaker 1: an MC, you know, and from the from the culture, 1983 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't like that we we use that we use 1984 01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,360 Speaker 1: pussy as a way to disrespect someone when that is 1985 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:24,639 Speaker 1: the portal gateway of our whole existence, and that's all 1986 01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 1: we trying to that's the gate where we're all trying 1987 01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,400 Speaker 1: to be back into on one way or the other 1988 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,559 Speaker 1: right or facilitate another soul to come through. So we 1989 01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,439 Speaker 1: really have to collectively, women have to say enough is that? 1990 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,680 Speaker 1: Enough is enough? Men we have to we have to 1991 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:41,880 Speaker 1: support the leaving that alone and find another way to 1992 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 1: talk about what's weak because the pussy is nowhere weak, okay, 1993 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 1: and associating that and and so that's that's when you're 1994 01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,439 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of the oh you're acting feminine, right, 1995 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:55,559 Speaker 1: you're gonna So there's a lot of negative things that 1996 01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 1: we look upon our women. And so when men start 1997 01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:02,559 Speaker 1: to see women in more a positive light, right, not 1998 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,000 Speaker 1: saying that women don't have those attributes, right, they do, 1999 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 1: just like men. We have those weak attributes, but we 2000 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,400 Speaker 1: start to see our women as opposite of weakness and 2001 01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: strength and power. We won't associate a disrespecting of the 2002 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:20,479 Speaker 1: man by calling him that. Listen, super and over you pussy. 2003 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:25,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm pussy. 2004 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm the greatest pussy any motherfucking existence. Why are you 2005 01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,519 Speaker 1: talking about what I'm hard. I'm the hard pussy. I'm 2006 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,360 Speaker 1: the juiciest pussy. I'm the fullest pussy our birth life. 2007 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 1: My name is super Nova. I'm the brightest pussy in 2008 01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:44,040 Speaker 1: the cosmos our birth. You niggas here my birth the 2009 01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,759 Speaker 1: big bang. Ain't no star better than the super nova 2010 01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:54,000 Speaker 1: I star bursts. I'm pussy. I create, I love be 2011 01:43:54,720 --> 01:44:00,439 Speaker 1: juicy pussy. And you cannot enter this pussy. You see 2012 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,960 Speaker 1: how it worked out. You just gotta take the energy back, right. 2013 01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:04,280 Speaker 3: Wow? 2014 01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:05,519 Speaker 2: You know that? Wow? 2015 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,800 Speaker 1: So look, look and I'm the pussy that's I'm and 2016 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a walking dick. I'm erected. Look at me 2017 01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,520 Speaker 1: like a bald head. I'm walking around here. I'm always erected. 2018 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm the mighty dick. I'm the mighty erection. I'm the 2019 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 1: greatest thick and pussy show that ever existed, the greatest 2020 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,559 Speaker 1: dick in the greatest pussy that I'm gonna lip. I'm 2021 01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:36,360 Speaker 1: the great god dick, like the great Goddess play the 2022 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,479 Speaker 1: goddess click in the god dick come together and they 2023 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 1: made me. 2024 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:50,639 Speaker 2: Ex hell ah, wow, thank you, I mean honestly, well, 2025 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm so happy to have met you in person. 2026 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,320 Speaker 3: Wow, this has been so this has been such a journey. 2027 01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 3: I feel like I've went on a d whole journey. 2028 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,200 Speaker 2: It's amazing. And you know what we didn't even acknowledge, Like, 2029 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 2: are you you're married? 2030 01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:04,519 Speaker 1: Right? I was married. 2031 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,800 Speaker 2: I was married. Yeah, I'm divorced now okay, but you're 2032 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,360 Speaker 2: you're partnered. Yes, Yes, your partner and you're partner to 2033 01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:14,760 Speaker 2: them like an amazing human. Yes, Layla Delia, Lelia Adelia. 2034 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 2: So that makes sense that you would have such a 2035 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 2: sacred partnership because it's light. 2036 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:27,800 Speaker 3: Say, well, we pulled a card at the top of 2037 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,760 Speaker 3: the show, but before we get to the card, after 2038 01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,480 Speaker 3: all that, I mean, that was a fucking affirmation. 2039 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't I do I do I do have? I 2040 01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,439 Speaker 1: do have. Uh. So there's something we say in the 2041 01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,240 Speaker 1: manhild I Solf training to the brothers. Arranged for me, 2042 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,839 Speaker 1: the way arranged for me, the way. May I renew myself. 2043 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,559 Speaker 1: May I become strong, May I renew myself. 2044 01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:51,839 Speaker 2: May I become strong? 2045 01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 1: Arranged for me, the way arranged for me, the way. 2046 01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:56,280 Speaker 1: May I renew myself. 2047 01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,200 Speaker 2: May I become strong, May I renew myself, May I 2048 01:45:59,240 --> 01:45:59,960 Speaker 2: become strong? 2049 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,839 Speaker 1: And So that's what we are calling on for ourselves, 2050 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,800 Speaker 1: is that as we work on ourselves daily, that the 2051 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,719 Speaker 1: way will be made for us. And as we continue 2052 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 1: to gather and to build and to cultivate, will become 2053 01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 1: strong world igourney, it will become renewed. 2054 01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:15,200 Speaker 3: I love that? 2055 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,559 Speaker 2: Is it terot time? I think it is tterot tyme. 2056 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,919 Speaker 3: So you pulled Queen Queen of Sorts. 2057 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,640 Speaker 2: The Queen of Sorts combines the mental clarity and intellectual 2058 01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,200 Speaker 2: power of the Suit of Sorts with the maturity and 2059 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 2: receptiveness of the Queen. You have the gift of being 2060 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,120 Speaker 2: able to use your intellect and unbiased judgment while also 2061 01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 2: remaining flexible and open to receive input from the source 2062 01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,840 Speaker 2: from other sources. As you lead from the head and 2063 01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,680 Speaker 2: not the heart, you are better able to discern situations 2064 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,920 Speaker 2: without the influence of emotion or sentimentality. You may believe 2065 01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,680 Speaker 2: that empathy or compassion towards others will distract you from 2066 01:46:55,680 --> 01:47:00,160 Speaker 2: the task at hand. Instead, you prefer to know the how, what, why, where, 2067 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,960 Speaker 2: when and who of everything to help you make sense 2068 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,519 Speaker 2: of your environment and better understand others. It is not 2069 01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:08,880 Speaker 2: that you cannot care about others, but you connect with 2070 01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,360 Speaker 2: other people through an intellectual understanding rather than an emotional one. 2071 01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,240 Speaker 2: The Queen the Swords notes that you are a truth seeker. 2072 01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 2: You're open to hearing the thoughts and opinions of others, 2073 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,200 Speaker 2: but ultimately you filter that information to decipher what is 2074 01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 2: true and what is not. When interacting with others, you 2075 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,760 Speaker 2: will not tolerate mistruths or excessive fluff. You prefer to 2076 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,960 Speaker 2: get to the heart of the matter without engaging in 2077 01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,280 Speaker 2: too much chit chat. It suggests that you have an 2078 01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,360 Speaker 2: innate ability to tell like it is. You're a quick 2079 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,679 Speaker 2: thinker and highly perceptive, piercing through the noise and confusion 2080 01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 2: to get straight to the point. There is no beating 2081 01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,920 Speaker 2: around the bush. You're upfront and honest in your views, 2082 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,439 Speaker 2: and you expect the same from others. For this reason, 2083 01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:50,680 Speaker 2: many people respect your opinion and come to you for 2084 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,720 Speaker 2: advice when they need clarity. 2085 01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:57,560 Speaker 1: Oh God, that's the Queen a sword the Queen, And 2086 01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,839 Speaker 1: it's interesting again for those that are sensitive to curses 2087 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 1: and animation. I restore my balance to you all, but 2088 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,880 Speaker 1: that is auspicious. Like you said earlier, that when you 2089 01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 1: pull the cards it relates, you know, Like I was 2090 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,479 Speaker 1: saying weaponizing the negative attributes of women, you know, and 2091 01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:18,519 Speaker 1: the Queen of Swords, So you know, the more that 2092 01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,879 Speaker 1: as men we heal and we own our space, brothers, 2093 01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,360 Speaker 1: that our true divine, masculine, our authorship, our manhood is 2094 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 1: exalted when we can support our women to be self 2095 01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:32,200 Speaker 1: expressed to you know, and we don't have to weaponize 2096 01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:35,479 Speaker 1: their negative attributes as their whole seals. You know, those 2097 01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,760 Speaker 1: are art types that come through them, but that's not 2098 01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,639 Speaker 1: who they are, just like our negative attributes or archetypes 2099 01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,120 Speaker 1: that we have upheld but not really our true selves. 2100 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:48,320 Speaker 1: And my prayers that more men continue their journey of 2101 01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,000 Speaker 1: healing and unlocking and caring that you can begin to 2102 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,920 Speaker 1: as you rebrand yourself, you can see the women in 2103 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:57,760 Speaker 1: a in a different light that that that can be 2104 01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,240 Speaker 1: revealed to you as a reflection of the word that 2105 01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 1: you're doing for yourself. So that's what that card represents 2106 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,600 Speaker 1: to me as you're reading, and that I wanted to 2107 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,320 Speaker 1: really bring that home. We have to change the the 2108 01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 1: you know the spirit of looking at women women period 2109 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 1: as being weak. The fact that I'm a protector does 2110 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,519 Speaker 1: not make her weak though, see like the lion king, right, 2111 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,919 Speaker 1: he's a protector of his being a lion with his family. 2112 01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:28,680 Speaker 1: But the woman is fierce and ancient chemist. The one 2113 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,880 Speaker 1: of the attributes of the archetypes of the deity is 2114 01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,439 Speaker 1: called sec Met is the daughter of Ra. She has 2115 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 1: the head of the lion lioness sec Men. She's known 2116 01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:43,800 Speaker 1: to be ferocious and very disciplined, oriented into martial arts 2117 01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:47,040 Speaker 1: and into protection. So the you know, the lioness of 2118 01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:52,240 Speaker 1: a woman. That's a powerful attribute, right. She doesn't need 2119 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,880 Speaker 1: to be on go right because her man is there, 2120 01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,120 Speaker 1: a lion is there, but she's she's lock and loaded 2121 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 1: and ready to ride a di She needs to write, 2122 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:05,559 Speaker 1: that's the the the environment, not that I am the 2123 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:09,639 Speaker 1: all the almighty powerful, and my woman is weaker, lesser 2124 01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,360 Speaker 1: than me. And therefore when I want to weaponize weakness, 2125 01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 1: I use her portal door gateway of life that I 2126 01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,479 Speaker 1: came through, and I lash it out on others to say, 2127 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:25,559 Speaker 1: don't be that, but you are that. We are all 2128 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:34,479 Speaker 1: and Pussy's at the same time, it's called mom, Dad, 2129 01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,360 Speaker 1: the great mother, the great father, you see, and I 2130 01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,840 Speaker 1: just took it through that one. And so the more 2131 01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,840 Speaker 1: we become exploded, you know, learn who we are on 2132 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,800 Speaker 1: this journey and and give ourselves space to go through 2133 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,360 Speaker 1: the shadow, go through that place where we're not on point, 2134 01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 1: and also give our space to rise above you know, 2135 01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:02,559 Speaker 1: our adversities. You know, we will begin to be so 2136 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,800 Speaker 1: more self expressed and so much confident, and that confidence 2137 01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,040 Speaker 1: can inspire others to unlock. I look at us being 2138 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, heroes and sheroes, and of our lives and 2139 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 1: our stories. You know, that's why we a lot of 2140 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,719 Speaker 1: us are joined to the Marl Marvel films. It's seeing 2141 01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,599 Speaker 1: us in a different way because we're all showing up 2142 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:23,240 Speaker 1: as as in our own lives, as different ones with 2143 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,000 Speaker 1: superpowers and different gifts. You know that we have to 2144 01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:27,600 Speaker 1: Some of us are scared of our gifts. Some of 2145 01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:29,840 Speaker 1: us are very confident, right, some of us are. Uh, 2146 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,639 Speaker 1: started out good and then you know we got triggered. 2147 01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 1: Like the villain was somebody that had good things. Think 2148 01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,360 Speaker 1: about the Joker story. They telling the Joker story. He 2149 01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 1: was he was you know, he loved his mom. He 2150 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,160 Speaker 1: was an introvert, he didn't mess with people. He was 2151 01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,080 Speaker 1: kind of a quiet guy. He became a clown to 2152 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:47,280 Speaker 1: entertain people. Trauma life was happening. People were being mean, 2153 01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,920 Speaker 1: to him, you know, and so all and that changed him, 2154 01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,720 Speaker 1: That changed him into a whole nother being. Right, So 2155 01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:57,000 Speaker 1: we can identify with that character, whether before or after. Right, 2156 01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,840 Speaker 1: But we all have you know, we all had those 2157 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:03,639 Speaker 1: attributes of a superman or a wonder woman. Right, And 2158 01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,400 Speaker 1: how gloriou is it when a wonder woman can own 2159 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 1: her space as an Amazon guide is a superman can 2160 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:12,880 Speaker 1: own his spaces as a superman. And then they on 2161 01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,160 Speaker 1: their journey they can find a way to fellowship and 2162 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,320 Speaker 1: work together to support others. 2163 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:22,840 Speaker 2: That go, yeah, that's beautiful, and then change the world, 2164 01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,000 Speaker 2: change over the world for the better. 2165 01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:28,479 Speaker 3: Come on, let's go, well, where can the where can 2166 01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,960 Speaker 3: the world and our tribe find you? Can you tell 2167 01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,080 Speaker 3: us where they can find and then where can they 2168 01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:37,040 Speaker 3: share you? Also with their husbands and men listening. 2169 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,680 Speaker 1: Brothers wherever you are, you know we have we hold 2170 01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,040 Speaker 1: space for our brothers eighteen and older. We're working on 2171 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,679 Speaker 1: having a right of passions for the young men soon. 2172 01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,000 Speaker 1: But eighteen and older sisters, if you have you know, 2173 01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,479 Speaker 1: beautiful husbands and miniature dating and courting sisters, get the 2174 01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,720 Speaker 1: brothers out to inboxes and out the comments and send 2175 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,599 Speaker 1: them to send them to our training. You know, we're 2176 01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:00,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram at Bandheld Ourself program. You can you can 2177 01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,320 Speaker 1: go on to the page and you can hear the 2178 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:04,080 Speaker 1: testimonials from brothers who have went to the rights of 2179 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,360 Speaker 1: passage and how they share their daily rituals, the meditations 2180 01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,360 Speaker 1: they do, the affirmations they do to be the best 2181 01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,519 Speaker 1: version of themselves. The book is available on Amazon. It's 2182 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,519 Speaker 1: called Manhial Thyself, The Weldness Warria Journey to Self Mastery 2183 01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 1: by Myself and co authored by my mother, Queen of Four, 2184 01:53:18,920 --> 01:53:21,800 Speaker 1: myself and my cousin Hallelujah Walcott. We've partnered with the 2185 01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,760 Speaker 1: Queen of Food Wellness Institute that hosts the Sacred Woman 2186 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:27,639 Speaker 1: Gathering that you all beautifully would be part of soon 2187 01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,879 Speaker 1: and we we do we handle hold down the mail aspect. 2188 01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,639 Speaker 1: So brothers, you can go to Queen fod dot com. 2189 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,519 Speaker 1: Now go to Queenford dot com, u q U E 2190 01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 1: E n A f u A Queen Ford dot com 2191 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,280 Speaker 1: and you can go to schools and the portals that 2192 01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,960 Speaker 1: has the Man Held Thyself program. You can you can 2193 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,040 Speaker 1: sign up and join us for twelve weeks in twelve 2194 01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:51,720 Speaker 1: weeks of miraculous support on yourself. Here journey and we 2195 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,519 Speaker 1: do it twice a year for the spring and for 2196 01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,120 Speaker 1: the in the fall, and we hear the support and 2197 01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm really honored to uh to be a guest and 2198 01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 1: to share the conversation with my sisters. I mean, we 2199 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,840 Speaker 1: had a couple of technical difficulties throughout we were navigating, 2200 01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:05,680 Speaker 1: but I just love talking to my sisters. Like I 2201 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,720 Speaker 1: was just I forgot you the campus to come on. 2202 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,200 Speaker 1: I was just the conversations that we're having. I wish 2203 01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,200 Speaker 1: that we were able to let y'all into some of 2204 01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,840 Speaker 1: the other i'll call the pocket downloads that we were having. 2205 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,679 Speaker 1: But I'm just so thank you' all have for having 2206 01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,479 Speaker 1: me so honored to be here with my sisters, and 2207 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,160 Speaker 1: I love the work that y'are doing and much much 2208 01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:25,920 Speaker 1: continued breakthroughs and abundance to anything that y'all doing. 2209 01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 3: Thank you or we definitely have to have you back on. 2210 01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,080 Speaker 3: And I was also thinking, what a beautiful experience to 2211 01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:38,000 Speaker 3: share with a partner in doing the Sacred Woman program 2212 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,040 Speaker 3: as well as yours at a lot of at the 2213 01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:42,680 Speaker 3: same time to then come together. 2214 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,080 Speaker 1: A lot of the sisters who have partners have done that, 2215 01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, they have they have health there you know, 2216 01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,920 Speaker 1: and that's what you know, Like I said, you know 2217 01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,760 Speaker 1: in the positive, Like you know, when we look at 2218 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,600 Speaker 1: our women from from the attribute of being outfice being 2219 01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,560 Speaker 1: leaders of their self care, right, I call you well 2220 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,880 Speaker 1: most well we used too, because you're you know women, 2221 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:03,280 Speaker 1: your fight for your children, your your fight to hold 2222 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,680 Speaker 1: down several hustles. You'll do what you gotta do to 2223 01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,880 Speaker 1: get through, you know, so yellow warriors, right, and so 2224 01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,320 Speaker 1: there will be There have been many women that have 2225 01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:12,320 Speaker 1: when they sign up for second Women to do their 2226 01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:15,080 Speaker 1: rights and passage, you know, to strengthen themselves. Maybe you 2227 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:16,760 Speaker 1: gotta sign up, they just go ahead, bring their husband 2228 01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:18,880 Speaker 1: and their husband. All the husbands come in all like, yeah, 2229 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm listening. My name is Jonathan. 2230 01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:21,600 Speaker 4: I know. 2231 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,440 Speaker 1: They got that heaviness but once but it's no judgment. 2232 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,560 Speaker 1: But we it's like we're like we're like, uh, you know, 2233 01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:28,920 Speaker 1: we're like the care bears to the brothers because because 2234 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:30,400 Speaker 1: we all because because we're all here for each other, 2235 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,440 Speaker 1: we all carry, we all care, we all men, were 2236 01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:35,200 Speaker 1: all hard and tough, but we all here because we 2237 01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:36,800 Speaker 1: know we've been hurting and we know we need we 2238 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,200 Speaker 1: need more for ourselves and our lives. You know, and 2239 01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,880 Speaker 1: so it's a beautiful thing when when the couples go 2240 01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,680 Speaker 1: through it, because she's going, you know, Queen of Four 2241 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,560 Speaker 1: has the sisters on a really disciplined regimen daily, but 2242 01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,600 Speaker 1: brothers are on a s too, So the sisters that 2243 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,400 Speaker 1: says she'll be up at four o'clock in the morning 2244 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,560 Speaker 1: doing her spiritual all to work. Her husband will be 2245 01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,600 Speaker 1: running his spiritual bath, doing his affirmation and prayers. So 2246 01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,680 Speaker 1: it's it's we have a lot of great testimonials from 2247 01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:04,280 Speaker 1: couples who who are doing their self here work together, 2248 01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,840 Speaker 1: and my prayer is that becomes a standard, you know, 2249 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,080 Speaker 1: in our world. One day we have more and more 2250 01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,960 Speaker 1: couples are excited about their rituals, about doing, about doing, 2251 01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:16,720 Speaker 1: supporting their partners on the individual journey of healing, but 2252 01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,120 Speaker 1: also supporting each other as they go through their whites 2253 01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:19,880 Speaker 1: and bashes together. 2254 01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:24,400 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's beautiful. Well you guys, I hope you 2255 01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:28,000 Speaker 3: guys enjoyed this episode as much as we did. 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