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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in

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Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio Football. Welcome inside Good Morning Football Live

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Speaker 1: in New York City. It's Wednesday, March twenty ninth. They

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Speaker 1: I'm Jamie Hurdall, Kyle Brandt there, Jason mccordy, and of

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Speaker 1: course Michael Brockers. Hey you feeling man, man, I'm feeling good,

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Speaker 1: feeling good, you know, joining us all show? I know,

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Speaker 1: do you like talking Lamar and Aaron Rodgers? You're the

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Speaker 1: right show. Kyle was well done because with Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: all but done and Green Bay all eyes are on

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Speaker 1: the Packers. The table was full talking to Mount Lafloor

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Speaker 1: yesterday Arizona. The unproven air apparent though is Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: Here's his head coach mout Lfloor from yesterday. I'm the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth overall pick from the twenty twenty draft and

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Speaker 1: his outlook. And we're excited about Jordan and what he's

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Speaker 1: and I think we all have to kind of temper

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Speaker 1: when you're going into a game versus when you're starting

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Speaker 1: a game, and it's going to be a process. The

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Speaker 1: trade to be named later move that would involve Aaron

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Speaker 1: the process as well. The situation has Jets owner Woody

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Speaker 1: Johnson sounding I don't know a little anxious, who via

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Speaker 1: the Athletics said yesterday quote, I'm not the patient sort.

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Speaker 1: Were in the win business. We have to win now.

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Speaker 1: It is different being in the win versus the win

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Speaker 1: now business. Two teams experiencing very different ends of the

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Speaker 1: same situation, the Packers moving forward with Jordan Love and

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Speaker 1: the Jets eager to boost a young and talented roster

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Speaker 1: with a very special four time MVP his two soap

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Speaker 1: opera storylines. And we have been for the ride the

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Speaker 1: entire time. So Jason, let's start with you. You know

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Speaker 1: these two The coach said something, the owner said something,

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Speaker 1: or does your mind in your heart go for Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I love this because it's like the Tale of two Cities.

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Speaker 1: for me that almost feels impossible. You have Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: Love and all we've heard this entire time is how

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Speaker 1: throughout his career with La Flora there as the head coach.

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Speaker 1: So when you push a guy out the door like

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Speaker 1: When you're the starter, it is totally different. But this

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Speaker 1: no different than where Brett Farve left and now Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers came in. Expectations were high because you're letting go

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give up. You know, I'm hoping that

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Speaker 1: and to build it. Hell, yes, let me ask, are

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Speaker 1: few years. You sit him, you sit him, you sit him.

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Speaker 1: Now he's upshot out the door in this disgusting divorce

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love's been sitting there. You wanted who else is

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me to temper anything. This guy better be

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Speaker 1: and we temper our expectations. We'll temper our expectations for CJ.

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Speaker 1: Strout this fall. I'm not tempering anything for Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: This guy better be able to play. What the hell

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Speaker 1: It's too little, too late, to Kyle's point, to ask

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Speaker 1: That's what's interesting about the situation, though Brock, is that

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Speaker 1: Packers did choose Jordan Love. I know they did it

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Speaker 1: fitness product. That would be great. You can buy a

425
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Speaker 1: lot of fitness products with that much money. Tell you

426
00:19:24,668 --> 00:19:29,628
Speaker 1: think you can logically deduce that that is that's not deducing. Sure, logically, sure,

427
00:19:30,028 --> 00:19:32,428
Speaker 1: we don't know. All we're doing is deducing because we

428
00:19:32,468 --> 00:19:35,228
Speaker 1: don't know. But deducing can be widely inaccurate. It could

429
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Speaker 1: be way off the mark. Maybe the Ravens are lowball

430
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Speaker 1: in him. We don't know. I think, without saying it,

431
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Speaker 1: I think that's what Lamar is attempting at his best

432
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Speaker 1: to try to imply that he is being lowballed. And

433
00:19:45,148 --> 00:19:47,908
Speaker 1: I think it does hurt him. And I think representation

434
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Speaker 1: or not, agent or not. I think he is wise

435
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Speaker 1: and not come out with the exact number. Because the

436
00:19:52,988 --> 00:19:56,388
Speaker 1: sliding scale of the longer this goes on, I realize

437
00:19:56,428 --> 00:19:57,588
Speaker 1: that a lot of it is still going to be

438
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Speaker 1: about money. But I think emotion and pride starts to

439
00:20:00,428 --> 00:20:03,308
Speaker 1: have a value here for Lamar Jackson, and he may

440
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Speaker 1: not want to step foot back in Owings Mills, Maryland

441
00:20:05,828 --> 00:20:08,308
Speaker 1: after they nickel and dimed him for two years or

442
00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:10,788
Speaker 1: whatever is going on at that negotiating table. He may

443
00:20:10,828 --> 00:20:12,508
Speaker 1: want to sign an offer sheet with the team that's

444
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Speaker 1: willing to give up two first round picks just to

445
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Speaker 1: stick it to him. Because of how they have treated

446
00:20:17,628 --> 00:20:19,508
Speaker 1: him for the last two years. Because Ross Tucker had

447
00:20:19,548 --> 00:20:22,548
Speaker 1: a great tweet out yesterday that was essentially the value

448
00:20:22,548 --> 00:20:25,228
Speaker 1: comparison between Josh Allen in his first couple of years

449
00:20:25,308 --> 00:20:27,508
Speaker 1: versus the last two and how Lamar Jackson is never

450
00:20:27,548 --> 00:20:29,148
Speaker 1: going to be able to make up that money. He

451
00:20:29,308 --> 00:20:31,108
Speaker 1: is never going to be make up the value that

452
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen now has a mass because he signed his

453
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Speaker 1: deal when he did with the Bills, and the Ravens

454
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Speaker 1: have hurt him. It seems like they've hurt his feelings.

455
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Speaker 1: He is a man of pride that wants to get

456
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Speaker 1: out of this situation where he feels like he can't

457
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Speaker 1: see his way out of. And so the value is there,

458
00:20:46,388 --> 00:20:49,228
Speaker 1: the emotion is certainly there, But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I almost wouldn't want him ask put that number out

460
00:20:51,948 --> 00:20:55,828
Speaker 1: because then it becomes Daniel Jones signed a contract extension.

461
00:20:55,868 --> 00:20:58,068
Speaker 1: What was Daniel Jones asking for? We have no idea.

462
00:20:58,108 --> 00:21:00,388
Speaker 1: There were reports, but we have no idea. Geno Smith

463
00:21:00,428 --> 00:21:03,308
Speaker 1: signed back with the Seattle Seahawks. What was Geno asking for?

464
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Speaker 1: We don't know. We just know what he's signed for

465
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Speaker 1: him because throughout the negotiating it doesn't help to say,

466
00:21:08,428 --> 00:21:10,868
Speaker 1: all right, hey, I'm asking for this amount of money

467
00:21:10,908 --> 00:21:13,508
Speaker 1: or that amount of money. You negotiate and you try

468
00:21:13,588 --> 00:21:15,588
Speaker 1: to figure it out. But I do think something's going

469
00:21:15,628 --> 00:21:17,628
Speaker 1: to come into play of the relationship. It's a big

470
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Speaker 1: part in the negotiating. All right, if we do get

471
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Speaker 1: him back, what does it feel like now moving forward?

472
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's tough to figure out. To

473
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Speaker 1: your point, we don't know what the asking prices. We

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Speaker 1: don't know if it is fully guaranteed where we assume

475
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Speaker 1: it and I guess it makes sense to assume. We

476
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Speaker 1: have no idea what the conversations are between Lamar and Baltimore. Yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: I'm now for another game because as the off season

478
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Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. Odell Beckham Junior showed up to

479
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Speaker 1: the league meeting yesterday. Lives and works out in the

480
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Speaker 1: Phoenix area, but he also looked to be treating this

481
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Speaker 1: like a job. Fair to talk with teams. Earlier this week,

482
00:21:49,708 --> 00:21:52,388
Speaker 1: Giants owner John mar said the team hasn't closed the

483
00:21:52,428 --> 00:21:56,228
Speaker 1: door on ob obj just yet. The best place for

484
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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior is indeed back with the Giants. Jason,

485
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Speaker 1: do you believe this or not? I do believe the

486
00:22:01,868 --> 00:22:04,308
Speaker 1: best place for Odell is back here in New Jersey,

487
00:22:04,388 --> 00:22:06,828
Speaker 1: in this area, in New York area. But instead of

488
00:22:06,868 --> 00:22:10,028
Speaker 1: the blue uniform, I'm gonna give him the green unifatom

489
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say coming back here, just you're at

490
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Speaker 1: the stadium, just head west, go to Florim Park, the

491
00:22:15,028 --> 00:22:17,988
Speaker 1: New York Jets facility, and that he can make home.

492
00:22:18,268 --> 00:22:21,308
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is coming to town, a veteran receiver like

493
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Speaker 1: Oldell Beckham. He joins that group. Obviously they brought in

494
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Speaker 1: Alan Lazar who was with Rogers and Green Bay, have

495
00:22:27,068 --> 00:22:29,628
Speaker 1: a young guy like Garrett Wilson. Now you just add

496
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Speaker 1: that third piece in Oldell Beckham. Him and Rodgers have

497
00:22:32,348 --> 00:22:34,668
Speaker 1: already said they wanted to play together. Almost happened when

498
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Speaker 1: they joined the Rams. Just kind of bringing full circle.

499
00:22:37,668 --> 00:22:39,948
Speaker 1: Let him beat come back home, but be on the

500
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Speaker 1: New York Jets. An opportunity to go chase the Super

501
00:22:42,188 --> 00:22:45,188
Speaker 1: Bowl right now, That to me is the best spot

502
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Speaker 1: for Oldell Beckham Jr. What do you think? I muna say.

503
00:22:49,268 --> 00:22:52,508
Speaker 1: I believe it only if the Giants want him, Only

504
00:22:52,548 --> 00:22:54,148
Speaker 1: because you want to You want to go somewhere where

505
00:22:54,148 --> 00:22:56,548
Speaker 1: you're wanting. You don't want to go anywhere, just you know,

506
00:22:56,788 --> 00:22:59,388
Speaker 1: willy nilly. Either you want to go somewhere where somebody

507
00:22:59,468 --> 00:23:01,228
Speaker 1: wants to have you there. They want to make you

508
00:23:01,268 --> 00:23:03,628
Speaker 1: the star receiver. They want to make you everything that

509
00:23:03,708 --> 00:23:06,468
Speaker 1: you believe you are. And you know the Giants want

510
00:23:06,508 --> 00:23:08,308
Speaker 1: that guy or want ob j on the team and

511
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:10,028
Speaker 1: want him for that reason. I think he should go

512
00:23:10,068 --> 00:23:12,228
Speaker 1: back if he wants to go where he's wanted to,

513
00:23:12,268 --> 00:23:14,988
Speaker 1: just go anywhere. NFL media members are. I can't believe

514
00:23:15,068 --> 00:23:19,708
Speaker 1: the breathless, panicked reaction when O'Dell shows up. Lamar could

515
00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:21,668
Speaker 1: have signed and Rogers got a trade, and everyone's thinking

516
00:23:21,668 --> 00:23:24,348
Speaker 1: at O'Dell's showing up at the annual meeting. I mean,

517
00:23:24,388 --> 00:23:26,428
Speaker 1: anytime you get a thirty year old wide receiver too

518
00:23:26,468 --> 00:23:29,188
Speaker 1: coming off an injury to show up, it's a big moment. Guys.

519
00:23:29,348 --> 00:23:31,628
Speaker 1: Odell has had eight hundred and fifty six yards over

520
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Speaker 1: the last three seasons. Drake London had more than that

521
00:23:34,588 --> 00:23:37,588
Speaker 1: last year, so did Michael Pittman. If Chris Godwin walked

522
00:23:37,628 --> 00:23:39,308
Speaker 1: through the lobby, no one won't even lift their phone.

523
00:23:39,308 --> 00:23:42,628
Speaker 1: He had a thousand yards last season. The breathless coverage

524
00:23:42,668 --> 00:23:44,948
Speaker 1: for this player who has been I don't blame him

525
00:23:44,948 --> 00:23:46,508
Speaker 1: at all. Whatever he's shown up trying to go to job.

526
00:23:46,708 --> 00:23:48,668
Speaker 1: I just can't stand the coverage and everyone. It's like

527
00:23:48,788 --> 00:23:51,228
Speaker 1: the Beatles showing up the United States from Liverpool and

528
00:23:51,268 --> 00:23:53,108
Speaker 1: it's O'Dell like coming off an injury. I just can't

529
00:23:53,148 --> 00:23:54,468
Speaker 1: take it. I don't know where he goes in front

530
00:23:54,468 --> 00:23:56,428
Speaker 1: of a camera. You know that's exactly it is, like

531
00:23:56,468 --> 00:23:58,788
Speaker 1: the Beatles. We were in London and Germany. He is

532
00:23:58,828 --> 00:24:01,788
Speaker 1: an international sensation. You know why the coverage is. And frankly,

533
00:24:01,828 --> 00:24:04,028
Speaker 1: you probably know why coaches or owners would want him

534
00:24:04,468 --> 00:24:06,908
Speaker 1: their facility. And John m cranking out hits when they

535
00:24:06,948 --> 00:24:10,188
Speaker 1: showed up. We got platinum on platinum on platinum. What

536
00:24:10,228 --> 00:24:12,108
Speaker 1: if he shows up in just as proving Kyle Brant

537
00:24:12,108 --> 00:24:13,708
Speaker 1: wrong and I have to continue to talk about him

538
00:24:13,748 --> 00:24:15,988
Speaker 1: next season because he is, yeah, awesome. I can't wait

539
00:24:16,028 --> 00:24:19,028
Speaker 1: to cover Odell Beckham the football player. I just a

540
00:24:19,068 --> 00:24:21,268
Speaker 1: whole segment on a wide receiver too, coming off an

541
00:24:21,268 --> 00:24:23,948
Speaker 1: injury who hasn't been productive in three years. Like, I

542
00:24:23,988 --> 00:24:25,788
Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about here. Let's talk about

543
00:24:25,788 --> 00:24:29,868
Speaker 1: the draft wide receiver too. He is I actually sat

544
00:24:29,868 --> 00:24:32,148
Speaker 1: in I almost threed him. I almost three him depending

545
00:24:32,148 --> 00:24:33,908
Speaker 1: on where he goes, he might be a three. Yeah,

546
00:24:33,908 --> 00:24:35,308
Speaker 1: that would be a great spot for him. He had

547
00:24:35,308 --> 00:24:38,948
Speaker 1: the Green Jeans on too. I think he was. I

548
00:24:38,988 --> 00:24:43,268
Speaker 1: hope the Jets green jeans put a Jets baby sounds great.

549
00:24:43,628 --> 00:24:45,468
Speaker 1: They need a wide receiver too, they just let one

550
00:24:45,508 --> 00:24:47,388
Speaker 1: go to Carolina. How high should we be sitting our

551
00:24:47,388 --> 00:24:50,388
Speaker 1: expectations for Kirk Cousins and the Vikings next season? I

552
00:24:50,468 --> 00:25:09,828
Speaker 1: love you. Last year, Vikings quarterback kerk Cousins may have

553
00:25:09,908 --> 00:25:12,788
Speaker 1: lost one of his most trusted receivers in Adam Palin

554
00:25:12,908 --> 00:25:15,348
Speaker 1: who's in Carolina now, but he's retained the same play

555
00:25:15,348 --> 00:25:18,988
Speaker 1: caller in second year head coach Kevin O'Connell. That's something

556
00:25:19,028 --> 00:25:22,108
Speaker 1: O'Connell is very excited about because Kirk has not had

557
00:25:22,148 --> 00:25:25,588
Speaker 1: that a lot in his football league. For me, the

558
00:25:25,628 --> 00:25:27,908
Speaker 1: last time he had the same voice calling plays in

559
00:25:27,988 --> 00:25:31,228
Speaker 1: the same system in his ear was you know, Sean

560
00:25:31,348 --> 00:25:36,228
Speaker 1: McVeigh twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen, before Sean took the

561
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Speaker 1: job in Los Angeles. So this will be really cool

562
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Speaker 1: for him to be in the same system, called the

563
00:25:41,988 --> 00:25:44,828
Speaker 1: same formations, the same plays him and I got a

564
00:25:44,948 --> 00:25:47,588
Speaker 1: you know, got a great rapport as far as a

565
00:25:47,628 --> 00:25:49,948
Speaker 1: lot of that goes. So I'm just excited to see

566
00:25:50,028 --> 00:25:51,748
Speaker 1: him in year two. My goal is that you know,

567
00:25:51,828 --> 00:25:53,908
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is one of the best season's Kirk

568
00:25:53,908 --> 00:25:56,348
Speaker 1: Cousins has had playing quarterback in the NFL, and when

569
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Speaker 1: that happens, I think it's gonna be a really good

570
00:25:57,948 --> 00:26:02,508
Speaker 1: thing for the Vikings. All Right, Well, Kevin O'Connell brought

571
00:26:02,508 --> 00:26:04,268
Speaker 1: it up, so let's take a look at it. Here.

572
00:26:04,548 --> 00:26:11,268
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins twenty fifteen and sixteen years with Washington, similar numbers. Again,

573
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Speaker 1: The connection here is this is the last time he

574
00:26:14,108 --> 00:26:17,268
Speaker 1: had consecutive play callers in his ear, which he will

575
00:26:17,268 --> 00:26:19,628
Speaker 1: now experience for the first time since those two seasons.

576
00:26:19,628 --> 00:26:21,948
Speaker 1: So that's one way to look at it, is how

577
00:26:21,988 --> 00:26:24,708
Speaker 1: I'm looking at those numbers. Cousins was selected for the

578
00:26:24,748 --> 00:26:28,068
Speaker 1: Pull Bowl in twenty sixteen, So expectations this year for

579
00:26:28,388 --> 00:26:30,868
Speaker 1: not just the Vikings and their second year head coach

580
00:26:30,948 --> 00:26:35,668
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, but Kirk Cousins specifically, Kyle, plant your flag

581
00:26:35,668 --> 00:26:37,508
Speaker 1: in the north, take over that thing, set up shop

582
00:26:37,588 --> 00:26:39,148
Speaker 1: for a long time. There's gonna be a lot of

583
00:26:39,148 --> 00:26:40,788
Speaker 1: heat on the Bears there already is. There's a ton

584
00:26:40,788 --> 00:26:42,628
Speaker 1: of heat on the Lions and the Packers are going

585
00:26:42,668 --> 00:26:44,628
Speaker 1: to be interesting. Is how a lot of eyeballs. There

586
00:26:44,628 --> 00:26:47,908
Speaker 1: may be the least interesting team right now, just across

587
00:26:47,948 --> 00:26:50,108
Speaker 1: the four of them, just because there's same coats and

588
00:26:50,228 --> 00:26:52,908
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and everything. Plant your flag. You see this sometimes,

589
00:26:52,948 --> 00:26:55,148
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady leaves the AFC East and the

590
00:26:55,188 --> 00:26:56,748
Speaker 1: Bill set up shop and they said this is gonna

591
00:26:56,748 --> 00:26:58,788
Speaker 1: be ours, all right, and everybody get comfortable. It's embarras

592
00:26:58,828 --> 00:27:00,708
Speaker 1: for a long time. Who's doing that in the North.

593
00:27:01,228 --> 00:27:03,868
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so much change and so much youth.

594
00:27:04,388 --> 00:27:06,068
Speaker 1: Then the Vikings are like, we're running back Cousins and

595
00:27:06,068 --> 00:27:08,508
Speaker 1: the coach and like it should be you guys. You

596
00:27:08,508 --> 00:27:11,028
Speaker 1: guys have the most experienced quarterback. I mean, the Lion's

597
00:27:11,028 --> 00:27:13,308
Speaker 1: got a guy, but Vikings just set set up shop.

598
00:27:13,348 --> 00:27:15,668
Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, so, Brock, you've been in the

599
00:27:15,908 --> 00:27:18,108
Speaker 1: you've been in the last two years in the NFC North.

600
00:27:18,588 --> 00:27:21,908
Speaker 1: You've gone against Cousins. The Cousins personality and persona is

601
00:27:21,908 --> 00:27:25,348
Speaker 1: always interesting because he's he's very good. Every single year

602
00:27:25,468 --> 00:27:28,348
Speaker 1: he puts up numbers and there's such like a stigma

603
00:27:28,388 --> 00:27:31,228
Speaker 1: about him in a reputation when you're getting ready for

604
00:27:31,348 --> 00:27:34,708
Speaker 1: Vikings week as opposed to other weeks. Are you like, man,

605
00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:36,748
Speaker 1: we gotta go to work. We're playing Kirk Cousins, or

606
00:27:36,828 --> 00:27:39,548
Speaker 1: you're like, we got this guy. What's his rep or

607
00:27:39,548 --> 00:27:41,428
Speaker 1: around the league? He's a very good quarterback. He's a

608
00:27:41,508 --> 00:27:44,068
Speaker 1: very good quarterback if you allow him to get going,

609
00:27:44,308 --> 00:27:46,468
Speaker 1: and if you don't pressure him or knock him on

610
00:27:46,508 --> 00:27:48,828
Speaker 1: the ground and just show him that, hey, we're getting

611
00:27:48,828 --> 00:27:50,588
Speaker 1: to you early, he's gonna beat you here. I mean,

612
00:27:50,628 --> 00:27:52,788
Speaker 1: he's a he's a starting quarterback in this league. But

613
00:27:52,868 --> 00:27:55,068
Speaker 1: if you get to him, you know, you rattle him

614
00:27:55,108 --> 00:27:57,308
Speaker 1: a little bit and you hit him, and you take

615
00:27:57,388 --> 00:27:59,228
Speaker 1: him off his game and you take him off his reads.

616
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:01,428
Speaker 1: You know, teams are like, okay, once we get him

617
00:28:01,428 --> 00:28:03,188
Speaker 1: in this position, we know we can, we can. We

618
00:28:03,268 --> 00:28:05,548
Speaker 1: got him, so tells you know, if you let him

619
00:28:05,588 --> 00:28:08,348
Speaker 1: get after you, he'll, you know, rip you up. He'll

620
00:28:08,108 --> 00:28:10,468
Speaker 1: he'll he'll tear your defense up. But you know, when

621
00:28:10,508 --> 00:28:12,548
Speaker 1: it comes to you know, rattling them in a little bit,

622
00:28:12,588 --> 00:28:14,588
Speaker 1: bledging them, get him on the ground, get him to

623
00:28:14,628 --> 00:28:16,908
Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, I mean, you know, we know that

624
00:28:16,948 --> 00:28:19,108
Speaker 1: he gets a little rattle. You expect a lot from them.

625
00:28:19,108 --> 00:28:20,548
Speaker 1: This year. What do you think it's a lot of

626
00:28:20,828 --> 00:28:22,948
Speaker 1: Like I told you earlier, the division is wide open,

627
00:28:22,988 --> 00:28:25,268
Speaker 1: the vision is wide open, and I know not a

628
00:28:25,308 --> 00:28:27,468
Speaker 1: lot of attention goals to the Lions. And I'm biased

629
00:28:27,468 --> 00:28:30,028
Speaker 1: because I just came from everybody. They're waiting in in

630
00:28:30,188 --> 00:28:32,868
Speaker 1: in the shadows. You know, they're they're the lion in

631
00:28:32,908 --> 00:28:34,948
Speaker 1: the shadows and all you see is that little yellow

632
00:28:34,948 --> 00:28:38,268
Speaker 1: eyes they're they're they're hoping that you forget about them,

633
00:28:38,268 --> 00:28:40,788
Speaker 1: because you know what, what what we did last year

634
00:28:40,948 --> 00:28:44,348
Speaker 1: was we picked ourselves up. You know, we didn't start well,

635
00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:46,748
Speaker 1: but we finished very well, and you know we're gonna

636
00:28:46,788 --> 00:28:48,828
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna take that momentum on the

637
00:28:48,948 --> 00:28:51,228
Speaker 1: next year and I think you'll you'll be seeing a

638
00:28:51,308 --> 00:28:54,548
Speaker 1: different color flag in that ground in the NFC North. Uh.

639
00:28:54,588 --> 00:28:57,068
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes, how do how do you think how

640
00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:59,268
Speaker 1: do you think this young team handles success? Because, like

641
00:28:59,308 --> 00:29:01,308
Speaker 1: you said, it didn't start the way you guys want to,

642
00:29:01,508 --> 00:29:04,108
Speaker 1: finished very strong, and if you turn on the TV,

643
00:29:04,468 --> 00:29:07,268
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the Lion is now the up and

644
00:29:07,308 --> 00:29:09,988
Speaker 1: coming team. How do you think they handled now being

645
00:29:10,068 --> 00:29:12,108
Speaker 1: kind of a team not other people. When they walk

646
00:29:12,148 --> 00:29:14,108
Speaker 1: into the building, they're fired up and ready to go

647
00:29:14,348 --> 00:29:16,508
Speaker 1: oppose it what has kind of been the last few years.

648
00:29:16,948 --> 00:29:19,068
Speaker 1: If they could keep those guys just focused, you know,

649
00:29:19,108 --> 00:29:21,508
Speaker 1: one track focus each week, I think you can do it.

650
00:29:21,668 --> 00:29:23,028
Speaker 1: They have, like you said, they have a lot of

651
00:29:23,068 --> 00:29:25,068
Speaker 1: young guys. But if you take it out of hey,

652
00:29:25,108 --> 00:29:27,148
Speaker 1: don't focus on what the media is talking about you.

653
00:29:27,708 --> 00:29:30,708
Speaker 1: We've proven nothing yet, you know, these are all things

654
00:29:30,708 --> 00:29:33,468
Speaker 1: that people are you know, assumption that people think that's

655
00:29:33,508 --> 00:29:35,588
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Let's go out here improve it. I think

656
00:29:35,588 --> 00:29:38,588
Speaker 1: that's when they get it done. Hearing Michael Brockers say

657
00:29:38,668 --> 00:29:42,108
Speaker 1: something like Kirk Cousins, he's a starting quarterback in this league.

658
00:29:42,508 --> 00:29:45,388
Speaker 1: Hearing their head coach say, we hope twenty twenty three

659
00:29:45,428 --> 00:29:48,388
Speaker 1: will be Kirk cousins most successful and competitive season yet

660
00:29:48,548 --> 00:29:50,948
Speaker 1: is like saying, oh my gosh, she went to Broadway?

661
00:29:51,068 --> 00:29:53,108
Speaker 1: Was it the most incredible show you've ever seen? And

662
00:29:53,148 --> 00:29:56,828
Speaker 1: you're just saying it was a Broadway show? Plant your

663
00:29:56,868 --> 00:30:00,668
Speaker 1: flag in the north, like that's great. B Division champs.

664
00:30:00,748 --> 00:30:03,348
Speaker 1: Be them all you want, Minnesota Vikings. Can you make

665
00:30:03,388 --> 00:30:05,428
Speaker 1: it to an NFC title game? Can you make it

666
00:30:05,468 --> 00:30:07,388
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl? Can you not lose in the

667
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:10,788
Speaker 1: first round? Of the playoffs again because Kirk Cousins. While

668
00:30:10,828 --> 00:30:12,948
Speaker 1: I hope he does have the most competitive season in

669
00:30:12,948 --> 00:30:15,628
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, I'm not sure it necessarily needs to be.

670
00:30:15,668 --> 00:30:17,948
Speaker 1: With the Minnesota Vikings, they just chose to not pick

671
00:30:18,028 --> 00:30:21,268
Speaker 1: up or extend an extension. The report was that he

672
00:30:21,308 --> 00:30:24,068
Speaker 1: would have taken less money for more time. Kevin O'Connell said, no,

673
00:30:24,108 --> 00:30:26,428
Speaker 1: we're good, We'll play out this. It's got ten million

674
00:30:26,428 --> 00:30:28,868
Speaker 1: dollars coming to him. Do in twenty twenty three. What

675
00:30:28,948 --> 00:30:31,388
Speaker 1: if he's not there? What if someone like Lamar Jackson

676
00:30:31,508 --> 00:30:34,028
Speaker 1: is someone that pushes the Minnesota Vikings over the edge.

677
00:30:34,028 --> 00:30:36,948
Speaker 1: Because the Vikings have the wide receiver, they have the

678
00:30:37,068 --> 00:30:39,548
Speaker 1: draft picks. If they send two draft picks to the

679
00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:44,428
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and receive Lamar Jackson, that is finally an

680
00:30:44,588 --> 00:30:48,108
Speaker 1: edge of a quarterback, a dynamic quarterback. Because this Kirk

681
00:30:48,108 --> 00:30:51,428
Speaker 1: Cousins experience, while it is statistically beautiful and while it

682
00:30:51,668 --> 00:30:54,868
Speaker 1: earns you a division championship in the regular season, it

683
00:30:55,028 --> 00:30:56,948
Speaker 1: is not pushing you over the edge the way you

684
00:30:56,988 --> 00:30:59,628
Speaker 1: think it needs to do in the postseason. I am

685
00:30:59,628 --> 00:31:02,228
Speaker 1: happy for Kirk Cousins that he has officially dropped this

686
00:31:02,308 --> 00:31:05,028
Speaker 1: narrative of the fact that he only wins one o'clock games.

687
00:31:05,068 --> 00:31:08,228
Speaker 1: It's great. You're not winning in January still and it's

688
00:31:08,268 --> 00:31:11,508
Speaker 1: frustrating everybody. And you have an unbelievable talented wide receiver

689
00:31:11,548 --> 00:31:14,708
Speaker 1: in Justin Jefferson that if you're not careful, I know

690
00:31:14,748 --> 00:31:16,548
Speaker 1: you're going to extend him. But you have to find

691
00:31:16,548 --> 00:31:19,348
Speaker 1: a quarterback that is going to make him great, that

692
00:31:19,508 --> 00:31:21,628
Speaker 1: is going to make this team great. Because to play

693
00:31:21,628 --> 00:31:23,828
Speaker 1: in a division that is ripe for the taking and

694
00:31:23,908 --> 00:31:27,308
Speaker 1: all you're ever doing is winning regular season division titles,

695
00:31:27,668 --> 00:31:29,748
Speaker 1: you have to make a change, and sometimes those changes

696
00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:32,508
Speaker 1: are scary. But bringing in somebody like Lamar Jackson I

697
00:31:32,548 --> 00:31:34,268
Speaker 1: think would be prime. You might have to send a

698
00:31:34,268 --> 00:31:36,948
Speaker 1: player as well to the Ravens. Lamar Jackson wants out

699
00:31:36,948 --> 00:31:40,108
Speaker 1: of Baltimore. Minnesota could send Kirk Cousins. They could send

700
00:31:40,308 --> 00:31:43,788
Speaker 1: Zanarius Smith even to Baltimore because he is also under contract.

701
00:31:43,828 --> 00:31:46,508
Speaker 1: Still send him guy, he's oh ten million dollars, Ravens.

702
00:31:46,548 --> 00:31:48,588
Speaker 1: You could have a guy on the cheap, which apparently

703
00:31:48,628 --> 00:31:50,948
Speaker 1: you're not willing to commit money long term just yet

704
00:31:50,948 --> 00:31:53,428
Speaker 1: to a quarterback, and that's fine. Then you're gifted two

705
00:31:53,428 --> 00:31:55,748
Speaker 1: first round picks have at it for the next couple

706
00:31:55,788 --> 00:31:58,108
Speaker 1: of years. In quarterbacks, pick who you would like if

707
00:31:58,188 --> 00:32:00,628
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is not your guy, but Lamar, do you

708
00:32:00,668 --> 00:32:02,628
Speaker 1: want to go win super Bowls? The Vikings are right

709
00:32:02,668 --> 00:32:05,308
Speaker 1: there because they're winning their division the regular season make

710
00:32:05,348 --> 00:32:09,348
Speaker 1: a change. So it's fascinating. We're seeing continuity with Kirk

711
00:32:09,508 --> 00:32:12,548
Speaker 1: and the coach. It works, playoffs, they win the North,

712
00:32:12,628 --> 00:32:14,588
Speaker 1: He's in the Pro Bowl. It's not enough, like the

713
00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:17,988
Speaker 1: definition of insanity to what you describing it that way

714
00:32:17,988 --> 00:32:20,388
Speaker 1: and using honestly that your tone of voice and describing

715
00:32:20,428 --> 00:32:23,508
Speaker 1: it is Minnesota nice. And I'm so sick of watching

716
00:32:23,548 --> 00:32:26,948
Speaker 1: the Vikings play that way. I am. Having a quarterback

717
00:32:26,988 --> 00:32:30,228
Speaker 1: that wins you regular season titles is great, but as

718
00:32:30,268 --> 00:32:34,708
Speaker 1: an ownership, as a management and great. I love Quasi Dopamnza.

719
00:32:34,908 --> 00:32:37,388
Speaker 1: I think he's an unbelievable talent. But don't come in

720
00:32:37,428 --> 00:32:39,548
Speaker 1: and say you're going to change the culture and not

721
00:32:39,668 --> 00:32:42,428
Speaker 1: have part of the culture. We're going to compete for

722
00:32:42,628 --> 00:32:45,148
Speaker 1: super Bowls. You are still on a list that you

723
00:32:45,228 --> 00:32:46,828
Speaker 1: don't want to be on of a team that has

724
00:32:46,828 --> 00:32:50,308
Speaker 1: not won a Super Bowl. All right, go ahead, Kirk Cousins.

725
00:32:50,508 --> 00:32:54,108
Speaker 1: Every year goes out and throws for four thousand yards

726
00:32:54,148 --> 00:32:57,628
Speaker 1: and throws more than twenty five touchdown passes. And I

727
00:32:57,708 --> 00:33:01,108
Speaker 1: understand it. Minnesota fans are frustrated he's not winning the

728
00:33:01,228 --> 00:33:04,668
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Be careful what you wish for. But because

729
00:33:04,868 --> 00:33:07,988
Speaker 1: there are franchises, there are organizations who do not have

730
00:33:08,028 --> 00:33:11,228
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and they're looking at the first five picks

731
00:33:11,228 --> 00:33:13,708
Speaker 1: of the draft every single year. That is not what

732
00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:17,188
Speaker 1: you want. Kirk Cousins isn't the issue in Minnesota. He

733
00:33:17,228 --> 00:33:20,668
Speaker 1: has continued to perform year and year out since he

734
00:33:20,708 --> 00:33:22,788
Speaker 1: has been there. Go back and look at the stats

735
00:33:22,788 --> 00:33:25,388
Speaker 1: of when Kirk Cousins is there and when he's not there.

736
00:33:25,828 --> 00:33:28,988
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings have other issues too. I'm not gonna go

737
00:33:29,068 --> 00:33:30,948
Speaker 1: all the way into the defensive side of the ball,

738
00:33:30,988 --> 00:33:32,908
Speaker 1: but they're trying to figure that out with flow. But

739
00:33:32,948 --> 00:33:36,548
Speaker 1: as I hear Jamie and Minnesota fans talk about Kirk Cousins,

740
00:33:36,588 --> 00:33:39,388
Speaker 1: just like, well, slow down, like let's look at this

741
00:33:39,428 --> 00:33:42,108
Speaker 1: guy and let's figure it out. Yes, Brox said, when

742
00:33:42,108 --> 00:33:45,188
Speaker 1: we look at him, he's another quarterback. If you hit him,

743
00:33:45,228 --> 00:33:47,708
Speaker 1: if you rattle them. You can say that about all

744
00:33:47,868 --> 00:33:50,948
Speaker 1: thirty two quarterbacks. When guys used to play against Brady

745
00:33:51,028 --> 00:33:52,588
Speaker 1: was all right, we gotta put pressure up the middle.

746
00:33:52,748 --> 00:33:54,628
Speaker 1: If we hit him, we can rattle them. That is

747
00:33:54,668 --> 00:33:57,188
Speaker 1: the saying every defensive player. We all say that about

748
00:33:57,268 --> 00:34:00,468
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because that's the position they play. But Kirk Cousins

749
00:34:00,588 --> 00:34:03,708
Speaker 1: is a very good quarterback in the NFC, which is

750
00:34:03,788 --> 00:34:06,468
Speaker 1: wide open? Is he Jalen Hurts, no Jamie. To your point,

751
00:34:06,468 --> 00:34:08,708
Speaker 1: if they can get Lamar Jackson, hell yeah, you go

752
00:34:08,828 --> 00:34:11,228
Speaker 1: get Lamar Jackson. But you can say that for probably

753
00:34:11,268 --> 00:34:14,548
Speaker 1: twenty five of the franchises because Lamar Jackson's an MVP.

754
00:34:14,908 --> 00:34:17,148
Speaker 1: So yes, he's a for sure upgrade over some of

755
00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:19,668
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the NFL, other than maybe if you

756
00:34:19,708 --> 00:34:23,028
Speaker 1: have the Mahomes, the Josh Allens and guys of that statue.

757
00:34:23,188 --> 00:34:25,188
Speaker 1: But if you don't, yeah, of course, if they can

758
00:34:25,268 --> 00:34:27,388
Speaker 1: just swing it and get Lamar, then go for it.

759
00:34:27,628 --> 00:34:30,068
Speaker 1: But let's not just kick kirk Cousins out the door,

760
00:34:30,108 --> 00:34:32,748
Speaker 1: because if there is no Lamar right now, Kirk Cousins

761
00:34:32,788 --> 00:34:35,028
Speaker 1: in the final year of his contract, they don't get Lamar.

762
00:34:35,108 --> 00:34:37,468
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins goes out there, he plays this year, the

763
00:34:37,588 --> 00:34:40,148
Speaker 1: Vikings have a very good year. They end up losing

764
00:34:40,188 --> 00:34:43,228
Speaker 1: in the NFC championship game. So they allow Kirk Cousins

765
00:34:43,268 --> 00:34:46,788
Speaker 1: to move on. What's next drafting a quarterback in the

766
00:34:46,828 --> 00:34:49,428
Speaker 1: second round and saying he's our guy. We're riding out

767
00:34:49,468 --> 00:34:51,708
Speaker 1: with them. Are they looking at free agent quarterbacks that

768
00:34:51,788 --> 00:34:53,548
Speaker 1: bring in and say, all right, Kirk Cousins couldn't get

769
00:34:53,628 --> 00:34:56,028
Speaker 1: us over the hume. Let's find this random quarterback that's

770
00:34:56,068 --> 00:34:58,308
Speaker 1: been on four different teams and bring him in and

771
00:34:58,428 --> 00:35:00,748
Speaker 1: let Kevin O'Connell whisper in his ear, and now we're

772
00:35:00,748 --> 00:35:03,188
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. So I don't know, I'm

773
00:35:03,188 --> 00:35:05,908
Speaker 1: a Kirk Cousins fan. He is not on the elite

774
00:35:05,988 --> 00:35:07,988
Speaker 1: level of some of the other quarterbacks. But I do

775
00:35:08,068 --> 00:35:10,228
Speaker 1: think he's a really good quarterback and he has performed

776
00:35:10,508 --> 00:35:12,828
Speaker 1: well seven What do you think last eight seasons? What

777
00:35:13,188 --> 00:35:15,868
Speaker 1: do you think Lamar Jamie brings up a fascinating idea?

778
00:35:16,188 --> 00:35:18,788
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, The Vikings say, let's change this up, let's

779
00:35:18,828 --> 00:35:20,508
Speaker 1: get let's go, let's go to Lamar. What do you

780
00:35:20,588 --> 00:35:24,188
Speaker 1: think I mean think about I mean, really the quarterback

781
00:35:24,308 --> 00:35:27,428
Speaker 1: and in an offensive coordinator or Kevin's you know relationship,

782
00:35:27,628 --> 00:35:29,748
Speaker 1: Is that a system that he's going to be accustomed

783
00:35:29,748 --> 00:35:32,028
Speaker 1: to running? You know, because he's you know, West Coast

784
00:35:32,068 --> 00:35:34,748
Speaker 1: offense under center, you know type of coach. You know

785
00:35:34,828 --> 00:35:37,228
Speaker 1: you yet Lamar, now you have to change your whole

786
00:35:37,228 --> 00:35:40,188
Speaker 1: offensive scheme to a option based scheme. So you got

787
00:35:40,188 --> 00:35:42,388
Speaker 1: to think about that aspect too, when you're thinking about,

788
00:35:42,548 --> 00:35:45,188
Speaker 1: you know, getting a quarterback like that and Ken Kevin

789
00:35:45,508 --> 00:35:48,748
Speaker 1: switch his offense over to help Lamar succeed. So yeah,

790
00:35:48,788 --> 00:35:51,268
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely it's it's a tricky situation playing against

791
00:35:51,348 --> 00:35:53,908
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in that division. Do you think Kirk Cousins

792
00:35:54,028 --> 00:35:56,108
Speaker 1: is a guy that can lead this team to a

793
00:35:56,148 --> 00:35:58,348
Speaker 1: super Bowl? I believe so if they get like you

794
00:35:58,388 --> 00:36:00,508
Speaker 1: said there there It's not just him. You know, they

795
00:36:00,548 --> 00:36:03,348
Speaker 1: have other issues that they need to fix. But you know,

796
00:36:03,428 --> 00:36:05,548
Speaker 1: if that team hits it all together, I think they

797
00:36:05,548 --> 00:36:08,268
Speaker 1: can get it done. Do you think Kirk Cousins. I

798
00:36:08,268 --> 00:36:14,708
Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins, I know, no Minnesota fan. You know

799
00:36:15,068 --> 00:36:19,068
Speaker 1: he has armies, an apologist. I'm married to one. Yeah,

800
00:36:19,108 --> 00:36:20,628
Speaker 1: I have to hear it all the time when I

801
00:36:20,668 --> 00:36:23,388
Speaker 1: start to talk like this about the makings and my

802
00:36:23,468 --> 00:36:25,668
Speaker 1: husband is, you know, not alone though I know, and

803
00:36:25,708 --> 00:36:27,308
Speaker 1: I hear that, and I and I know I'm going

804
00:36:27,388 --> 00:36:29,868
Speaker 1: to hear about it on social media, but it's how

805
00:36:29,908 --> 00:36:33,868
Speaker 1: can you create a different outcome if you don't change

806
00:36:33,988 --> 00:36:37,228
Speaker 1: what is getting you to the same position every single year.

807
00:36:37,308 --> 00:36:40,268
Speaker 1: And Kirk Cousins is a fun quarterback to watch. I

808
00:36:40,348 --> 00:36:43,708
Speaker 1: like watching good football. The man creates really fun football

809
00:36:43,748 --> 00:36:45,948
Speaker 1: to watch. Is that going to be the difference maker

810
00:36:46,148 --> 00:36:49,428
Speaker 1: on this specific chemical makeup of this team? That's all

811
00:36:49,428 --> 00:36:52,348
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That is all I'm saying. I respect. I

812
00:36:52,388 --> 00:36:55,388
Speaker 1: think of Stafford and there was loved on the Lions

813
00:36:55,468 --> 00:36:57,268
Speaker 1: and he was excellence. He was so talented, he was

814
00:36:57,268 --> 00:36:59,668
Speaker 1: a great leader. It just wasn't what wasn't happening just wasn't.

815
00:36:59,708 --> 00:37:02,108
Speaker 1: And I was working much less working for the Vikings, right,

816
00:37:02,308 --> 00:37:04,308
Speaker 1: But eventually there's it's just time to go. Derek Carr

817
00:37:04,388 --> 00:37:05,828
Speaker 1: were the Raider. Yeah. I don't know if we're there

818
00:37:05,868 --> 00:37:08,268
Speaker 1: with Kirk. He's coming off an excellent season. But maybe

819
00:37:08,348 --> 00:37:11,268
Speaker 1: they say we need something absolutely nuclear. Yeah, I know,

820
00:37:11,428 --> 00:37:13,308
Speaker 1: all right, coming up on Good Morning Football, so beging

821
00:37:13,348 --> 00:37:15,628
Speaker 1: in nuclear. We have an angry runner coming on the

822
00:37:15,628 --> 00:37:20,308
Speaker 1: show Ry one in Tampa Bay, Rashad White, who was

823
00:37:20,428 --> 00:37:23,548
Speaker 1: part of the Golden Scepter Tour at NFL Honors this year.

824
00:37:23,668 --> 00:37:25,548
Speaker 1: Kyle right, You've a lot to unpack there. Yeah. I

825
00:37:25,548 --> 00:37:27,148
Speaker 1: don't know if you knew what planet he was on.

826
00:37:27,228 --> 00:37:29,108
Speaker 1: I certainly didn't know where I was. That was a

827
00:37:29,108 --> 00:37:32,028
Speaker 1: weird moment. We're gonna unpack it, Jayleen Arts, he's on

828
00:37:32,068 --> 00:37:37,068
Speaker 1: the planet Philadelphia right now, thought, never mind. I went

829
00:37:37,108 --> 00:37:38,908
Speaker 1: back to that moment. I'm live to me and I was.

830
00:37:38,988 --> 00:37:40,908
Speaker 1: I was awkward. So we're talking football after this