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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the Boys, broadcasting

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Speaker 1: live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. Monday,

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Speaker 1: and we finally get to do a show without any

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Speaker 1: input from Douglas. Poor, poor Douglas. Because Douglas is not here.

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Speaker 1: We have a We have a guest producer today, William Blakins.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. William. Hey, guys up, you can't

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Speaker 1: even hit the pause button for yourself. I don't know

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Speaker 1: should have produced this a little better coming out. Why

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Speaker 1: when they said, Shannon Groves, you should have started talking

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Speaker 1: about Douglas R. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna share a little

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Speaker 1: bit a little email we got from Douglas at ten

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Speaker 1: on one pm last night. This is this is why

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Speaker 1: Douglas is not here. Very descriptive, Shannon Gross email from Douglas. Okay,

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Speaker 1: from Douglas's iPhone. I've come down with a bad fever.

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Speaker 1: Late this afternoon. I threw up and passed out, why

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Speaker 1: doing it? Woke up with my mouth driven into the

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Speaker 1: rim of the toilet, a cut lip and a chip

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Speaker 1: very much hope to laugh about this someday. Thanks exclamation mark, Douglas. Well, Douglas,

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Speaker 1: you may hope to laugh about it someday, but we're

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Speaker 1: laughing about it today. Thank you for the very I

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Speaker 1: would have just been like fellas, not gonna make it tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: tell you about it later. Yeah. Have you ever thrown

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Speaker 1: up so hard you passed out? I have? I mean

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Speaker 1: I passed out and thrown up, passed out, that's for

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Speaker 1: different reasons. But came back whole man. You didn't come back, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: broke two tooth, driven into this toilet. Toilet geez, well, Douglas,

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Speaker 1: where's my tooth? Oh, it's I don't think I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get it. It's in that. Well. We hope you

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Speaker 1: feel better, Douglas. So William, welcome to the show. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for producing and filling in last minute. So we appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: How was y'all's weekend? Good? It was yeah, good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what'd you what'd you do this weekend? Hang out? And

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Speaker 1: Cannon Baby back in the country, had just hanging out

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Speaker 1: with Prime watching him fish man. Yeah, that's all I do.

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Speaker 1: and there they building them up. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: we just sat there and crack jokes and have fun

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Speaker 1: and catch anything. Yeah he do. I mean you don't

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Speaker 1: catch it, okay, anybody half cuts anyway. He just I'm serious,

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Speaker 1: this dude, that's all they want to do. His fish.

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Speaker 1: He throw them back then, you know, catch him over

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Speaker 1: throw them back, and I'm like, man, they ain't do them.

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Speaker 1: No good, don't hit the frying pan. What kind of

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Speaker 1: fish does he catch? You got bass? He got bluegill,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to build up his bluegills with the bass man.

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Speaker 1: He got it from this small to got some big ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah man, wow, well something. My weekend was great, Yeah, relaxed.

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Speaker 1: We we had a a company retreat on what Wednesday Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Yea took me damn near all weekend to recover from

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Speaker 1: you go to what? Did you go to? The ball game?

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Speaker 1: Or the Who was Kirt Mets in the Braves? I

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Speaker 1: went to see Wicked with Jimmy Fallon. It was really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Central Park. Oh you say Wicked, I'm thinking about a movie,

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Speaker 1: man now. It was. It was a play. It's It's

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Speaker 1: pretty good? Of course we're all out of town. Our

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Speaker 1: like something that pressure does something to him. When they

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Speaker 1: And I tell you what, man, that that was tough

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Speaker 1: He's still a productive tight end, but he's not Jason

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Speaker 1: percent off your first order. That's Tommy John dot com.

423
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: We should have got Tommy johns and rushed over Douglas

424
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: House since he had a fevan just wrapped his head

425
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: in Tommy jo stuff keep him stuff sum in his

426
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: mouth to keep him breaking his teeth on the toilet. Jesus,

427
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: what what what is it? What is as? Uh? Yeah,

428
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: the fly open horizontal pouch opening? So Nate, what is

429
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: it like since you played professional football and you were

430
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: in a professional football locker room? You were too you

431
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: you still is well true but yeah yeah not didn't

432
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: play for the team. But how how does it change

433
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: the dynamic when one of your leaders is no longer

434
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: in the room. I'm assuming there's no okay, well he's gone,

435
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: so you need to step up and be the leader.

436
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it just happens over a natural progression and

437
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: more vocal it will. How does that happen? How does

438
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: that will? Your coaches can help a lit it with that,

439
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: because I get a feel that Jason know as players,

440
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, I think I get a feel he knows

441
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: as players, and he'll say little things like, hey man,

442
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: we just think about this. Uh you know, Hey, you know,

443
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to you know, you don't have

444
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: to get out of character, but I'm gonna need you to.

445
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna calling you a couple of times

446
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: and see how that guy reacts. You know, hey, man,

447
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: what you think? You know? I want? What's you called

448
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: to say something to you? You know? And he and

449
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: that person will show up either not show up. If

450
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: you don't show up, it things just stays the same.

451
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: But uh, that person to come. I'm telling you that

452
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: for that person to come, how does it work? Because

453
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: obviously Witten's gone. He was kind of talking dog. But

454
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: you know, Scandrick was a captain last year. Maybe a

455
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: name only, but he was a captain. Um Dez Bryant

456
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: was a leader of the receiving corps. You know, Sean

457
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: Lee's a captain, but like you said, he's been hurt

458
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: a bunch um. See this is where Sean Lee got.

459
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: This is where Sean Lee and I put an asterisk

460
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: by his name when I really do, because he can

461
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: he can play. He can flat out get it. So

462
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: he can he can highlight guys you know while he's playing.

463
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: He yeah, hey, let's get out of the the eye. You know.

464
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: But he can also get guys in the film room.

465
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: But that's from a defensive standpoint. Witton could get command

466
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: the whole room. He was like, and I want to

467
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: assume I don't know, so if people can come walking

468
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: to me on the team and say you wrong. Okay,

469
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll be wrong, but Mike Irvin and I'm and I'm

470
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: being frank. So you know, if you don't like what

471
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, maybe I won't be on ademar. No matter

472
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: what color, who you were, what size, what position you play.

473
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin crossed every barrier. I think Waiting crossed every barrier,

474
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: and a lot of guys can't cross I promise you

475
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: trust me. A lot of guys can't cross every barrier

476
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: because they don't know. I'm not saying Scandrick was not

477
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: a leader. But Scandrick couldn't talk to everybody. Michael Irving

478
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: can go down and talk to our defense. He can

479
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: come over and talk to the offensive line, he can

480
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: talk to the running backs. He can even go to

481
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: talk to the kickers. That's crossing every every everybody can't

482
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: do that, and you shouldn't allow everybody to do that.

483
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: You know when I mean Michael walk into the defensive

484
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: meeting room and and hey, coach, I need to how

485
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: how that do you? Guys? A minute and coach were

486
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: giving that type of respect. But if I don't win

487
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: in the I'm like, man, get your big oad. You know,

488
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: you can't something you know? And now is that a

489
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: personality deal? Is that just? Is that just like in

490
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: real life there's certain people that can talk to everybody

491
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: a certain way and everybody listens and follows that person.

492
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Is that just you? You gravitate towards those people because

493
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: you can come over here. You can come over here

494
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: and aid at night and you'll see. You know, when

495
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: it was at Valid Ranch and I'm in one night

496
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: being uh Broderick had met you know, the night before,

497
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, it was all it was doing. I was

498
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: doing all I say and I don't know, but we've

499
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: man Broderick Thomas when I had thus through drinks, like man,

500
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: we need we need it. Go sweat this out, you

501
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And uh, eight o'clock at night.

502
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, you kept saying, it's dark shape because do

503
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: you remember the trees at Vatan. We just have a

504
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: bunch of trees at Valid Ranch, you know, And uh,

505
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: you just kept saying every real four minutes you to

506
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: see it. Who in the world is out there? You know,

507
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: had white white something white on. I'm like, who in

508
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: the world. About thirty minutes later, you see Mike come

509
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: through the door, sweating, got on twenty five pound weight,

510
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: vest like, well, what in the world were you doing

511
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: out now? Well, but them some back pedals and you

512
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: know I did mean some sprints and ramming a couple

513
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: of miles. Mike, Mike really, he's a yeah, man, you know,

514
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I gotta get it in. Well. Broger Thomas played, he

515
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: was a linebacker. I was, I'm my offensive lineman. We're

516
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: listening to this and so, but I was always a

517
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: joke crackers. I'm like, hey, man, guess what I saw

518
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: shadows running around last night? You know, and you know,

519
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: setting up a joke, and everybody knew it was. It

520
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: was Mike. You know. You you you you go over

521
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: there six in the morning thinking you're gonna get your

522
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: early workout in Mike sitting ran in coach Warsick office

523
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: mapping out what he's gonna do that day. That's awesome.

524
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: So when you got a guy, you know, and then

525
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: when you go on to meet him in the in

526
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: the offensive cornet to say, first thing he said when

527
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: he putting the game playing in, you can say, man,

528
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: he looked, rather than Mike, Mike, I take one for

529
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: the team. I take one for the team, it's gonna

530
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: set up something down in a row, I mean straight

531
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: off the battan arts and being like, but what is

532
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: the coach. We're gonna throw your four or five slants

533
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: early in the game, throw you, but we're playing the giants. Man,

534
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: it's some people sitting up in the sitting up enough

535
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: for the crack him and uh as soon as you

536
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: hit that fake slant, fearback out wide on touchdown. But

537
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: he took them hits early in the game. We knew

538
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: whatever they asked Mike to do, matter ridic how ridiculous it,

539
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: we knew Mike was gonna beat us. So Mike came

540
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: to you and say, hey, man, we need for you

541
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: to do this. We you know, you gave that extraft

542
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: for you. You knuckled down, you know, you know even

543
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: when Emmett when was in that NFC Championship game and

544
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: Emmett heard his shoulder, you know, Emmett came in and

545
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: said what he said. But you know, but when when

546
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, when Emman finished saying what he had to say,

547
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the Mike just you know, Mike just big noon gog,

548
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, and we went to crushing them giants for

549
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: everything that work asked coach Jackson. You know, we ran

550
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: through what I think it's gonna be like super interesting

551
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: this year because with Whitten Whitten leaving, it's gonna create

552
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic because now these young guys that they've

553
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: got in there, like Nate said, one of them or

554
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: two of them or three of them, Yeah, they're gonna

555
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: step up. They're gonna be They're gonna have more personality.

556
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna let them become a leader on that team

557
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: to where I feel like with Witt in there and

558
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: he's he's you know, a lot of these guys grew

559
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: up watching him play and idolizing him and wanting to

560
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: be like him. Now that he's kind of moved on,

561
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: it allows them to be who they were, right. I

562
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: really wonder if this really opens the door up for Dak.

563
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Now this is maybe truly his team and his chance

564
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: to well, I think I see this thing about it.

565
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: I think it was Dak's team anyway. Even so, it's

566
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: it's a funny dynamic how quarterbacks work, you know, because

567
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: Jayson's gonna be sitting in the huddle, you know that woman,

568
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Hey man, come on, I gotta call this play. And

569
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: that's why Iran was right. Yeah, he was a leader

570
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: everywhere but the huddle more. Yeah, he was the leader

571
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: everywhere except it was Troy team. Yeah, you know, and

572
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: that's why I tell people, you know, Troy was our

573
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: leader of our team, but the heart throb. And that's

574
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: what Jason is. He the heart. He was the heart

575
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 1: throb of the team. It's a difference. You know, people

576
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: don't understand to lead, sometimes you have to follow. But

577
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: a good leader knows who to follow. See and and

578
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: that's why sometimes you got you know, you don't want

579
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: to hurt people feelings and the game. Jimmy Johnson, Bill

580
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: parsays Nick Saban. That's why he went back to college.

581
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: That's why coach Saban went back to college because the

582
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: way they just gave Matt Ryan one hundred million dollars.

583
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: What you're gonna tell him? Nothing? Right, what you're gonna

584
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: telling hey man? Soon when he signed his name and

585
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: whatever signing bonus they gave him, he guaranteed one hundred

586
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: million dollars. I wish you're gonna tell him. He's to me,

587
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is just a quarterback nothing specially got all

588
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: the tools around him. I mean, who would die for

589
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, you know, and then they went out and

590
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: got ridden. Come on, man, two great running backs, a

591
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: good offensive line. He still can't win that. You think

592
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: the roles call for the quarterback to be the leader

593
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: type and do something different. But they need a heartbeat

594
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: now to step up him and you don't. You don't

595
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: never know who that is, but you but coaches to

596
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: be praying, and I'd be praying that it's somebody that

597
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: could play m because when you got a dud leading

598
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: your team, all you're gonna have a bunch of duds.

599
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: And I'm just being honest with you. I'm being honest

600
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: with you. Now, I'll tell you who I think, just

601
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: from being around him, if he can turn it into

602
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: performance on the field, like a natural a guy that

603
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: has the natural ability to lead and just has that

604
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: presence is Jalen Smith, Like he just has this aura

605
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: around him. When you're around him, you feel like, you know,

606
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: there's something about this guy. You don't know what it

607
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: is now. Like what Nate said earlier, it's got to

608
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: translate on the field as well. You gotta stay on

609
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: the field, you gotta be there all the time. You

610
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: gotta make plays. You gotta you got within your role

611
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: be outstanding. See, you ain't gotta be on the field

612
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: all the time. You could be a special team guy, right,

613
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, because Kenny Gant had his own flavor and

614
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: leaders are guys that make plays, because that's what if

615
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: you got a competitive team. It was always being competitive.

616
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 1: Like I was on a kickoff return team, and so

617
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, I would tell the guys in point of return,

618
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: may y'all the waste? You know I was. I was

619
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: a joker, so I wouldn't said like you know, it

620
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: would be in a funny way, and so they'd be like,

621
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: oh no, I hey, bro, we ranked this in the league.

622
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: We ranked number four in the league. Kickoff returning y'all

623
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: ranked number ten? Man, y'all mean to him? Me, y'all

624
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: can't even get six yards of return? You know, we're

625
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: just kicking it and all of a sudden, you know,

626
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: Kenny ganna part of that. You're like, all right, shot,

627
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: all right, so you need your t fix. But anyway,

628
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, people getting at each other and and boy

629
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: Kenn again they saying, you know, man, he's not either

630
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: knocking somebody out, um uh getting a fumble, it's doing

631
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: something to help his special teams. Derek Johnson he played

632
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: an art special team M and Darren wasn't played on

633
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: every special team. You guys had to play back eighty

634
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: plays a game minimum. And but it was all competitive

635
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: and everybody knew they roll. You know when we when

636
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: we're having a hard time, you know, Darren Woodson to

637
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: walk rap back on, man, come on, get get your

638
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: boys going. He'll walked by every week. Come on big

639
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: eek wow. You know, everybody has their role, but what

640
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: one thing you have to be very fortunate that is

641
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: everybody got to stay healthy. When this team stays healthy,

642
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I have to put this in him

643
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: because this has hurt us the last three years and

644
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: nobody's suspended. The Cowboys can play. We just didn't have

645
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: a depth. But just think every year that they have

646
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: won twelve ten, twelve eleven games. One of the concerts,

647
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: nobody got hurt. They depth didn't get tested. But every

648
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: time they depth get tested through suspension or injury. This

649
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: is not a very good team. That's where a leader

650
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: comes in at That's why the Warriors went out and

651
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: got KD from from Yeah, because they knew if they

652
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: lost one guy, was it wasn't gonna be no more Warriors.

653
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: So you got you know, you get guys, and I'm

654
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: I know he's an elite, but you gotta get a

655
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: guy that can help me. And that's what the Connor

656
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: Williams did for us, and that's what we had. We

657
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: never had injuries. Brother, when we played, we never name

658
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: one guy got injured, you know, never. They used to.

659
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson used to be probably still is a big

660
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: gambler on preseason football odds, and he picked like the

661
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: year the Ravens won the Super Bowl, he picked him

662
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl, and they weren't really on

663
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: anybody's radar, and he had picked like a couple of

664
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: you know, conference championship winners previous years. And they asked

665
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: him like, how are you so good at this? He goes,

666
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: I sit down and I look at the depth of

667
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: everybody's roster, and every every team that has a backup

668
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: that's they won't really missed that big of a beat

669
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: across the board. That's usually the team I go with

670
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: is because if somebody gets hurt, somebody steps in. When

671
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: you you have these teams where one person gets hurt

672
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: and the whole offensive line falls apart of they can't

673
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: run the ball or they can't throw the ball. That's

674
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: so he just along with Nate, says, if you can

675
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: stay healthier, if you have somebody that can slide in

676
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: and you don't drop off. You know, see you when

677
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned Jalen Man, that's why I never judged him

678
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: that here. I never judged because not once I listen

679
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: to people talk. You got to really listen to people talk.

680
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: Not once ever. I don't care even behind closed doors,

681
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: have you ever heard a negative word about this kid?

682
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: You know? And me and brought us like, brought us

683
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: he ain't ready and this man and brought us up

684
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: in this office for to see us said he ain't ready.

685
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't care what they do. He ain't ready. But

686
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: it's hard. His spirit is so great. And even when

687
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: he you can see the frustration on him in the game,

688
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: but it's hard. His spirit is so great. I wish

689
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: he can physically get back. I really do wish you

690
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: can physical get back because he won't have to say

691
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: a word. Just his enthusiast and what he's been through

692
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: to get to where he's at automatically inspires you to

693
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: be like, if this guy worked that hard to get

694
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: where he's at. He's back to where he used to be.

695
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's do you do you think this speak

696
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: in Jalen. Do you think this is a make or

697
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: break year for him? Do you think this is kind

698
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: of a all right, he's had a year on the field.

699
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Is he gonna progress to be better? Is this kind

700
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: of a if you can see the future in him?

701
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: This is the year? You know, because I'm gonna believe

702
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: in this. You know, offenses as most as powerful as

703
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: these offenses there's in the NFL now, you still need

704
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: a defense to make a play here and there to

705
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: give you that extraposition, or you need a defense to say, okay,

706
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: we up by up by seven, we can't give up

707
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: more than three. We cannot let him tie this game.

708
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: We didn't have that type of we even when we

709
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: was thirteen and whatever, we didn't have that type of defense.

710
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: Because it showed right up in the playoffs. And that's

711
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: where it shows up the most in the playoffs. You know,

712
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: you can't just keep running to the playoffs or brown

713
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs because you don't have a defense that

714
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: can get you the ball back that one time a

715
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: game or that twice it's gonna come two times in

716
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: the game where that defense has to make a play,

717
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: whether he's getting the guy off the field or making

718
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: an interception or sack. We didn't we didn't have that,

719
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: especially in the last nineteen game with out of the

720
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: first nineteen game, we didn't have that. I think what

721
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: you're as far as make or break, and I think

722
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: you're saying this too. It's not will he be on

723
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: the team or not. I think it's will he be

724
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: an impact player? Will he will get yeah? Yeah, And

725
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: you don't want him to be a role guy, right,

726
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: he didn't get drafted that yeah, you you and uh,

727
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: you just don't want to be a role guy. I

728
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: mean you pray for him to be just you want

729
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: him to be a good player. You want him to be.

730
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: When they say, hey, what's my top twenty four players,

731
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: who's the guys he want him? Jayden? Another kind of

732
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: leadership related question you talked earlier, Nay about the coaches

733
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: can maybe help mold this a little bit. Does it

734
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: hurt to the fact that there's so many new assistant

735
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: coaches that maybe don't know these players as well. They

736
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: know them, they know them well enough, they know him

737
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna take but four or five good practices.

738
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: They know him, They've been around a bunch of players,

739
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: they can compare to, they can see and like I say,

740
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: you can have a team full people. People think you

741
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: just gotta have oh this guy, You can have a

742
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: team full of them. If you got guys making plays,

743
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about what they're doing, you can have a team

744
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: full of them. Like like the Boston Celtics, they got

745
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: a team full of them. Yeah, and they came up

746
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: by necessity. They lost Kyrie Irving, they lost Haywood from

747
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: the start, guarding Haywood from the start, and they lost Kyrie. Okay,

748
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: all they got is to, you know, second and third

749
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: year guys. And then they even lost their defensive stuff.

750
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: That kid from Capelle, you know, they lost him with

751
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: a broken hand. So all that left you was second

752
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: and third year guys. In a rookie Jason Tatum, you

753
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: sometimes out of necessity, you know, you find out you

754
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit more than you thought. This is

755
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: shaping up to be. As we're talking through all, this

756
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: probably one of the most exciting not just off seasons

757
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: but training camps. Because Dez is gone, Whitton's gone. You

758
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: got all these young guys in the defensive secondary that

759
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: this coaching and management staff has said, we drafted these guys,

760
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: they are gonna play this year. They haven't gone out

761
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: and gotten any big free name and maybe big game

762
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: free agents. It's like, Okay, we made this bed, we're

763
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna lay in it. You've got Dak that had a

764
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: great rookie year and a you know, a solid sophomore year.

765
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: But he didn't you know, may not have progressed like

766
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: you to want to see. Yes, he progressed, he progressed.

767
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: The rest of the team just net comes with what

768
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: with what ye see to get hit to throw on

769
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: the rest. You know, he didn't have to do as

770
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: for ast year, right, maybe one or two games where

771
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: he gotta he gotta full of dose to that a

772
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: little bit too much last year. So didn't have the

773
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: pieces in place around him. And so he solid. Now

774
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: this is a big year for him. This is a

775
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: big year. And and until mister Stevens Jones grind and persistence,

776
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: he got he got what he wanted. He he want

777
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: guys that's gonna be where they need to be at

778
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You may not who is Alan whatever and

779
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: who is this guy? And they let gold Swiss. They

780
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: got this thing. How they wanted see this? This is

781
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: this is what makes me laugh. How are we gonna

782
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: replace das well? You keep wondering they already did it, right,

783
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm talking straight, right, you know, you keep wondering. Okay,

784
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: this thing is about one man and one man only

785
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: the rest of them. It just pieces around until you

786
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: catch my king and say, checking me. We still playing

787
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: the game, right, It's called zeke. Yeah. And you know

788
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: what's I have this weird feeling that they've been setting

789
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: like you related it to chess. They've been setting this

790
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: board for two or three years, and this is like, okay,

791
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: we've been We've been moving these pieces for two or

792
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: three years to get to this point, and then this

793
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 1: is the year. This is how we've been wanting because

794
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: they have the young guys, A lot of the old

795
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: guys are not here, A lot of guys that have

796
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: been around, they've drafted the same way over the past

797
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: three or four years. And now it's like, okay, we

798
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: got it like we want it. Let's roll so many

799
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: and unseen. You know, as much as I wanted to

800
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: tight ends to play and maybe you know a lot

801
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: of people don't like how missus Jones. I'm talking about

802
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. They don't like, you know, Stephen is supreme

803
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: and feel confidence. I don't feel the way they feel.

804
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: I feel like, if if our tight ends behind, Winton

805
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: can't play, I think he'll go out and find somebody that. Okay,

806
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: if I got to get a block in, tight in

807
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: and then everybody know what we're gonna do. See everybody like,

808
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: hey man, they're gonna know what you're gonna do. Well,

809
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. What do you think

810
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I'm being honest what you think we're

811
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: gonna do? Sixty five percent of the time? Okay, So

812
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: non't matter whether you got to tighten end or not,

813
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: because you can go for wide right, you can go

814
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: four wise and put Zeke backed up by himself, go

815
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: for why that's a totally different look. How many times

816
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: that we can't open the game first and ten after

817
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: the kickoff with four wids and Zeke standing back there.

818
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: So you got to decide against this offensive line whether

819
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna have an extra dB, extra linebacker and you

820
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: ain't gonna win either way. That's if we do that.

821
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. We ain't gotta put a

822
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: tight end on the end of the line and let

823
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: you set your strength up. We just put full guys

824
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: out there in runner ball in the middle of the field.

825
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: Not what you're gonna do. I'll tell you what we're

826
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna take one more break. We're gonna

827
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: have rookies in the building this week. Rookie Mini can

828
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: want to see one. I only want to see one

829
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: which one strong gave him cans. That's the one I kept.

830
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: All right, we've got We've established Nate's pet cat for

831
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: all the training camps. My mind, a pit bullet off

832
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: a pit bull. We will talk about what rookie mini

833
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: camp is and what that means, and what that does

834
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,919
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Speaker 1: for a few more minutes. Back back, so let's talk

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: about when when does mini camps start? Kurt does this Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: So it'll be the first time that the rookies are

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00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: in the building after they got drafted. They used to

880
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: do it the week after the draft, and then a

881
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: lot of the lot of the guys were still finishing

882
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: up classes and things like that, so they delayed it

883
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: now for two weeks. A lot of them around the league,

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00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: A lot of teams had rookies in the building last week.

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00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: So what all do they do when they come in? Kurt?

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00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: Maybe Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Sorry, but it's this weekend, Okay. Well,

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00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: it's they're just getting used to the system. Really, I

888
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: mean there's I don't Nate can speak to it better,

889
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: but there's there's not gonna be a whole lot of

890
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean, they won't be hitting or anything like that.

891
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: It's more about just starting to teach them how the

892
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys do things. I mean, it's I think it's very basic.

893
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: Here's what we do. Now, here's what we do. Then

894
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: what size helmet do you wear? What size shoes? You know?

895
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: Starting at square one. You know what's so funny is

896
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: these guys have been conditioning, for a lot of them,

897
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: for the combine and for personal workouts, and you know

898
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: what's so funny, they still ain't it. They still ain't

899
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL shap year hampstring. And and you know

900
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: why why because you're playing against athletes that are equal

901
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: or better than you for the first time after the

902
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: first time ever on a consistent basis, and whereas you can.

903
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, you're playing against the little guy

904
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: at at your college. And okay, he run on a

905
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: full full eight and you run a full four, full five.

906
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: You're just jogging out of the field. He make a cut,

907
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, quarterback arm ain't strong, ain't got no

908
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: time into him, you know. So you do what you

909
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: want to do. You get your little running back. You know,

910
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: he think he fast and quick, and all of a sudden,

911
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, you're playing with it out of him. Bro,

912
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: You're heart racing, your eyes racing, more importantly, your brain racing,

913
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: and they ain't none of the running running together. Man.

914
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: He guess we pay for that. The body, Yeah, the

915
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: body pays for that, you know, because now all of

916
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, and if you like to drink,

917
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Speaker 1: you a few cold ones, don't do it. Get you

918
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Speaker 1: a banana, get you get some pickles. You know what

919
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Be calful with that because you don't want

920
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: to get the runs right. So I'm serious, it's just

921
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: it's just so amazing. You think you in shape, you know,

922
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Speaker 1: you just went through all these things, and then you

923
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Speaker 1: take that deep broke here. Okay, wow, now for two weeks,

924
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, a week and half, you know leading up

925
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: to the draft, you ain't really working out. You know,

926
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: you did all this, so you know it took a

927
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: little time off and you know, even though you're not

928
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: out of shape, you ain't in this shape. And then

929
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys want how to train fun

930
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's why the Players Association to mind, it's

931
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: not smart. You should you should have a seven eight

932
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: week period where rookies as soon as they get through

933
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: with school, they should have a seven or eight week

934
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: period where they where they demanded to be with the conditioning,

935
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: condition have to be with it. You know. But did

936
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: they have rookie mini camps whenever you were in the

937
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: league or was it just straight in and everybody was

938
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Speaker 1: did we have rookie slaughter camp? Brother, if they was

939
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Speaker 1: to come take out our film or what our many

940
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: camps was like when we would crush these kids. You

941
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: guys are going full strength. Come on now, one on

942
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: one pass freshman, come on, Oh death camp, that's what

943
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: it was. I don't I don't I like how they

944
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: do it now. But your conditioning should be if you're

945
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: a rookie, they should wave all of those you ain't got.

946
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: Get these kids a chance, because a lot of these

947
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: kids don't even know they're gonna get cut because they

948
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: can't get on the fifth because they injured. If you're

949
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: in the first round, second round, pick, third round, pick,

950
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Speaker 1: you finn't get cut because now you don't get hurt,

951
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: and if you would have been in shape, you could

952
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: have showed what you had. Yeah, what's the biggest thing

953
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: for these these kids? As they come in and learn

954
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: it all? Learn everything mental, make it, make it, make

955
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: it second nature. As quick as you can learn the

956
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Speaker 1: defensive scheme, the quicker, the quicker you can find out

957
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: what you can do within that defensive scheme quicker. The

958
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: same with the offense. The quicker you learn it, the

959
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: quicker it becomes second nature. The more you know you

960
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: can do within it, you know, then it allows your

961
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: talent to it freeze up your talent to let you play.

962
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, because I'm telling you you can you know,

963
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: you can be as arrogant as you want. But you know,

964
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: in high school, if you're a great player, every other year,

965
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: you may find somebody with your talent. In college, if

966
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Speaker 1: you're a great player, you know, you may play against

967
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Speaker 1: somebody two three times a year. If you're an SEC

968
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Speaker 1: or the ACC, you know, one of the big power fives.

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Speaker 1: You know, you may find somebody that two or three

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971
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972
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Speaker 1: you know, So you dominate. You, You You the man. You know,

973
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Speaker 1: you come out here. You got understand all that, all

974
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Speaker 1: the power of fives together and the hungry guys like

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Speaker 1: myself was no was no part of nothing coming at you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And people you don't realize unless you've been up close

977
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Speaker 1: and watched it. They say that football is a game

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Speaker 1: of inches, and you normally equate that like inches as

979
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Speaker 1: far as yards getting a first down and inches as

980
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: far as No, it's literally a game of inches all

981
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: across the field. Yes, how the quarterback can put that

982
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: ball three inches outside of the defender, and you know

983
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: this guy catches it with just inches left on his

984
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Speaker 1: fingertips and a guy getting into a route an inch

985
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: before the other guy. I mean, it's when when the

986
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: talent is that good, the you know, error window is

987
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Speaker 1: so small. It is what makes everybody offensively look for

988
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: that quarterback that got great accuracy. That's why every scout

989
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: worth his salt would die for that quarterback, because especially

990
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's got accuracy with with some anticipation. Drew Brees,

991
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: come on, now, come on and and now you don't

992
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: have to throw every down to win a game. Man,

993
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, is it man? He's like, I'm gonna play

994
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: for ten more years. These two running backs. I got

995
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You you will see Tom Brady cuss hisself out.

996
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: When when when when he missed that thing by this

997
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Speaker 1: much way? Just barely come on that. Oh he's mad

998
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: at the receiver, He's mad at himself. Could you see

999
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: him point everything like because he knew normally he would

1000
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: have that ball all ready in his hands. Yeah, well, fellas,

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Speaker 1: it's been real, Kurt, thanks for showing up, Thank you, Nate,

1002
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it as always here. Douglas, get you

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Speaker 1: get your teeth together. Get I hope you feel better,

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Speaker 1: Douglas William Yeah, talked a little noise about Douglas the

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Speaker 1: I talked, Remember I talked to hey, man, God, you

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Speaker 1: broke him down. Man down, come on, took his dignity

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Speaker 1: toilet seats with his face. I need to send over there,

1009
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Speaker 1: maybe get him, give him a pep talk. William, thanks

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Speaker 1: for filling in. Thanks for everybody that pushes all the

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