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Speaker 3: I heard it was gonna be a couple of us today.
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Speaker 1: Sellers today.
Speaker 3: Oh there she is another host. Look at she's joining U, y'all.
Speaker 1: He mom, how you feel? So we have Andrew Gillam
Speaker 1: of course to my left in Atlanta with me, and
Speaker 1: then we had the incomparable amazed, rable, beautiful. Ya eyebrows
Speaker 1: look good too.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna compliment you on the red red.
Speaker 3: Works for you.
Speaker 1: For us. Look at that Angela raie. So I want
Speaker 1: to say first, we had an amazing live show last night.
Speaker 4: I was a shout out to the people in Atlanta
Speaker 4: as well as those who traveled. I met a young
Speaker 4: lady I think a number of us did, who flew
Speaker 4: from Miami. She and a colleague of hers, and then
Speaker 4: she bought two more people who live in Atlanta along
Speaker 4: with her to the show last night. And I said,
Speaker 4: you came up, you came visit it. No, I heard
Speaker 4: y'all were gonna be here, and so I came.
Speaker 3: I'm a supporter.
Speaker 4: I listened, and I regret that I'm not recalling her
Speaker 4: name at the moment, but just thank y'all.
Speaker 3: Thank y'all so much.
Speaker 1: Well every time. Time is the most valuable thing that
Speaker 1: we had. There were a lot of people who spent
Speaker 1: time with us last night we had the building was
Speaker 1: almost packed in Wanery. Yeah. I just appreciated the camaraderie.
Speaker 3: And the City Wannery staff who were all incredible. And
Speaker 3: to their chef who made some.
Speaker 1: It was they ain't had no broccoli, they had b
Speaker 1: It was brock had the whole the whole thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people were asking about you, Angela RII.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm sorry, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Feeling how you feeling? What's going on?
Speaker 6: I think most importantly we're just checking out how my
Speaker 6: dad is feeling. He had to go through like a
Speaker 6: stint procedure, and they opted not to do the stint,
Speaker 6: so now he's got some other cardio things to work through.
Speaker 6: And I think we've all talked about on this show
Speaker 6: just aging with aging parents is not for the faint
Speaker 6: of heart.
Speaker 5: But I would not have it any other way. Our
Speaker 5: brother Leonard told me the other day.
Speaker 6: He was like, I would prefer getting older, and I
Speaker 6: think that that's a good perspective to have. So I
Speaker 6: would share a video with all of you in the audience.
Speaker 6: But my dad didn't have his hat on, and he
Speaker 6: can be a little vain. His hair was sticking up,
Speaker 6: and all he wanted was some chicken wings when he
Speaker 6: could finally eat. So he is supposed to be discharged
Speaker 6: later today. Of course we're recording Wednesday, but hopefully all
Speaker 6: is well. I'm refusing to let him leave until he
Speaker 6: sees a cardiologist because I think that they've made a
Speaker 6: number of, you know, interesting decisions like pacemaker, no pacemaker, stint,
Speaker 6: Like we just we need to get on the same page.
Speaker 6: So I appreciate you all holding it down. I want
Speaker 6: to say thank you to the community in Atlanta for
Speaker 6: supporting my family. Andrew Bacari and Tiffany who came back
Speaker 6: for a special appearance, and of course doctor Keith for
Speaker 6: all she's doing in the community there in Atlanta as well.
Speaker 6: So we really appreciate you all. City Winery, thank you
Speaker 6: for partnering with us.
Speaker 4: Well, Angela, just know that at the start we had
Speaker 4: a collective prayer for you and your father joined.
Speaker 1: I'm glad watched.
Speaker 3: Because she's a little bit invested.
Speaker 5: I did not idea how do we do? You guys
Speaker 5: did great.
Speaker 6: I didn't like the lighting, which is not a U problem,
Speaker 6: but and I'm actually surprised Andrew didn't say anything.
Speaker 5: He's normally the chief among us on lighting.
Speaker 4: I didn't see, I am I got issues about the
Speaker 4: lighting today, but I did.
Speaker 6: See, uh the lighting in there too. I'm looking at
Speaker 6: the top of y'all's heads.
Speaker 3: Well you're looking at the tope of mind for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the top of my head,
Speaker 1: this is rucker roots. Shout out just I'm hooking up
Speaker 1: Jordan right now, who's one of our producers with some
Speaker 1: rucker roots. I don't miss a beat, Ellen, I don't
Speaker 1: miss a beat.
Speaker 6: Good job, because you better, you better throw a promo
Speaker 6: in there. We could always use some more ads on
Speaker 6: this show, so we'll take a pro bono one for now.
Speaker 4: Just to my bad y'all, a special thanks and appreciation
Speaker 4: for for for our sister Tiffany, who at the drop
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 3: Hat to your call.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't even wait for me. Latasha and tiff
Speaker 5: and head.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you I don't know if
Speaker 1: you got the phone call, but I got a phone
Speaker 1: call that said he did he didn't going to talk
Speaker 1: to Angela. Yeah, that's right, he didn't pick up. Latasha's
Speaker 1: going to talk to Angela. Tiffany's going to do the show.
Speaker 4: I said, okay, all right, and and the audience was overjoyed.
Speaker 1: We actually had a person bring her a gift.
Speaker 4: She did get a gift, and I actually have the
Speaker 4: card from the gift, and the card was written to
Speaker 4: this all of us, the host of Native lampod and
Speaker 4: did he write basically, he just you know. We said
Speaker 4: to the host, you're included.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's emotional for me.
Speaker 4: It was kind of him, and he said that this
Speaker 4: show has changed his life. And we had a number
Speaker 4: of first timers who were in the audience last night,
Speaker 4: thanks to normal regular family members.
Speaker 3: Native lampod family members.
Speaker 4: Inviting friends, and there was so many of them who
Speaker 4: came up Angela at the end and said, this was
Speaker 4: my first time hearing and I cannot believe I have
Speaker 4: missed x x x number of episodes. I'm on, I'm hooked,
Speaker 4: I'm subscribing, so on and so forth.
Speaker 3: So yeah, really beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had we had fun and we spent
Speaker 1: time at the end. If you come to a Native
Speaker 1: Land show, trust me, we're gonna stay until the last
Speaker 1: person leaves the building. So we didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: last night per se to do FYSA, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: hop into it right now. And I just want to
Speaker 1: start with Pete. What's his last name? What's his real
Speaker 1: last seth? Hey, I can't I can they get on
Speaker 1: me about not being able to run.
Speaker 3: I thought it was deliberate, was to let me find out.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think my getting away that's what
Speaker 1: Ellen said.
Speaker 5: Jesus, I'm sorry here with you guys are about to
Speaker 5: get dragged.
Speaker 6: You know this is the wrong time to be playing
Speaker 6: like you better hope they just cut that out, because
Speaker 6: why that was good the way the way. No, it's
Speaker 6: it's not it's not Ellen, It's not you the way
Speaker 6: these people out here on heads canceling.
Speaker 1: We get there.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, let me read, let me exactly to
Speaker 7: speed ag uring a Pentagon prayer breakfast last Wednesday, secretary
Speaker 7: or Pete Haig seth ready a fake Bible verse.
Speaker 1: It was actually from perfect.
Speaker 3: Roll that love it.
Speaker 8: So the prayer is Ceesar twenty five seventeen, and it reads,
Speaker 8: and pray with me please the path of the down
Speaker 8: aviator and is beset on all sides by the iniquities
Speaker 8: of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed
Speaker 8: is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty
Speaker 8: the lost the valley of darkness.
Speaker 2: For he is truly his brother's keeper darkness.
Speaker 9: And the finder lost children. And I will strike down
Speaker 9: upon them with great vengeance and furious And those who
Speaker 9: attempt and destroy my brother, you will know my call
Speaker 9: sign those who Sandy won.
Speaker 2: When I lay my vengeance.
Speaker 10: Brothers upon and you will know my name is the
Speaker 10: law when I lay my.
Speaker 6: Vengeance upon the first of all, can we just acknowledge
Speaker 6: and shout out Samuel L.
Speaker 5: Jackson's Jerry Kerwe.
Speaker 6: Pete Hegg said, should have borrowed it for his re
Speaker 6: enactment of pulp fiction.
Speaker 1: He didn't know, Angela, I know, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to shout out hit the staffer because there
Speaker 1: is a staffer who.
Speaker 4: Set them up.
Speaker 1: His staffer. His staff hates him because his staff was like, watch.
Speaker 6: This, that was the know what book in the Bible is?
Speaker 6: I don't know what book that is. It's not in there,
Speaker 6: he says, chapter No, it's not stopped.
Speaker 3: After inviting them to please pray with me, but they
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 5: So my issue is with all these slave catches out there,
Speaker 5: because what are they doing? Like, why were they all
Speaker 5: like what?
Speaker 1: He does this every week?
Speaker 4: He does every week since the war. He's he holds
Speaker 4: an I.
Speaker 5: Said, I wanted to send you all a clip of
Speaker 5: the dude again, don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't send it now because let me just tell you
Speaker 1: what it is. Let me tell you where we're nine
Speaker 1: minutes in thank you.
Speaker 5: This is related.
Speaker 6: So Piers Morgan, there was a guy that came on
Speaker 6: Piers Morgan. It was uh ygd I think did this
Speaker 6: Ali Hey?
Speaker 5: Did his name? Anyway? He was on Piers Morgan with
Speaker 5: Pete Haig. Seth's pastor look like the guy.
Speaker 1: The guy, he was like, don't you can't call you
Speaker 1: so passing no more?
Speaker 6: He hit and he dragged him and he's like, you're
Speaker 6: the reason Pete haig Seth is doing this, and then
Speaker 6: went on to tell him all the reasons why he
Speaker 6: wasn't a real Christian.
Speaker 5: It was magical. So if y'all have whoa, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's out the clip.
Speaker 5: Let's roll it real quick, real quick quick.
Speaker 2: It's very good.
Speaker 11: I have no problem attacking wolves in sheep's clothing. I
Speaker 11: have no problem attacking a man who wrote that American
Speaker 11: slavery was mutually harmonious between the slave master and the slave.
Speaker 1: That's you.
Speaker 11: I have no problem attacking a man who probably says
Speaker 11: he wants to do away with the nineteenth Amendment which
Speaker 11: gave women the right to vote. I have no problem
Speaker 11: attacking a man like yourself who sits here incoherently supporting
Speaker 11: an incoherent, unwinnable illegal war and Iran. I have no
Speaker 11: problem attacking you a man who is the religious leader
Speaker 11: of Pete Hegseth, A man who's a cosplay crusader who's
Speaker 11: leading some type of crusade. Probably you put them on
Speaker 11: as a secretary of defense, getting Americans and innocent civilians killed.
Speaker 2: I wish you would be a better Christian. I wish
Speaker 2: you would open up the Bible.
Speaker 11: I wish you would meet the Jesus that I met
Speaker 11: when I went to an all boy Jesuit Catholic high school,
Speaker 11: the Jesus that took care of the sick, that took
Speaker 11: care of the poor, that welcomed the immigrant, that welcomed
Speaker 11: the marginalized, that help them. But instead you've used Jesus
Speaker 11: as a mascot for I don't know, your white Christian supremacy.
Speaker 11: You're cruelty, your misogyny, and I'm so glad that people
Speaker 11: are finally waking up to your cruelty and to the
Speaker 11: idiocy of your star disciple Pete Hegseth, who keeps messing
Speaker 11: up and literally does not read the Bible and quotes
Speaker 11: pulp fiction.
Speaker 2: Just sit with them.
Speaker 11: Maybe both of you could read the Constitution, read the Bible,
Speaker 11: and just take a break.
Speaker 2: Pastor just take a break.
Speaker 1: Yeah who less, sorry just to say your responds. Just incidentally,
Speaker 1: we know that Jesus was not a socialist because he
Speaker 1: could actually feed people.
Speaker 2: Wonderful great response.
Speaker 1: Next, Well, anyway, let's go to let's go to Troy
Speaker 1: Neil's real quick while we're on this conversation.
Speaker 12: I believe that Donald Trump is uh is better than
Speaker 12: sliced bread. I think he's he's he's almost a second coming.
Speaker 12: In my humble opinion. I think he's done a fantastic job.
Speaker 12: He's got a very difficult job. Pope's got a tough job.
Speaker 12: You don't got issues in the church, but Donald Trump
Speaker 12: is a very, very difficult job to do, the toughest
Speaker 12: job in the world.
Speaker 6: I just want to say that I had a widow's
Speaker 6: peak that was strong like that when I was younger,
Speaker 6: and I wish somebody would fade him up.
Speaker 5: His widow's peak goes all the way down here. So
Speaker 5: who's got a tough job, widow?
Speaker 1: I just think. I just think that people who are
Speaker 1: like you know, men in Congress who are five six,
Speaker 1: five to seven, have a very difficult job. And he is,
Speaker 1: he's he's going to struggle through it. You know, those
Speaker 1: five six, five seven men out there. We shot it
Speaker 1: and shot you out.
Speaker 3: He's he's a he is a small man.
Speaker 4: And it ain't because of how literally literally is that
Speaker 4: because of his verticals that I don't know how anybody
Speaker 4: fixes their lips and makes their heart and their mind
Speaker 4: congruent with his words. I don't know if it's an
Speaker 4: act anymore with these guys, because I think I'm pretty
Speaker 4: much now convinced that if it's not an act, that
Speaker 4: they may be the stupidest people that walks the face.
Speaker 1: Of the earth. Well you know who's not. As Raphael
Speaker 1: Warnock and I wanted to, I want to in the
Speaker 1: in the order that we played it. I wanted us
Speaker 1: to be able to see the scripture as they see
Speaker 1: it versus the scripture as we see it. And Senator
Speaker 1: Rafael Warnock, who still works on Sunday mornings here not
Speaker 1: far from.
Speaker 4: Just quick correction, But Pope, fiction is not that that's
Speaker 4: called script script for a movie.
Speaker 3: They confuse it with scripture.
Speaker 1: I don't know what pete, pete doing. U let's play.
Speaker 1: Let's play, Rafael Warknox sermon to get us on point.
Speaker 10: Here, when the man who holds the highest office in
Speaker 10: the land has been confirmed by a court verdict to
Speaker 10: be a sexual abuser, that he could be heard on
Speaker 10: Tate bragging about being a sexual abuser. We knew all
Speaker 10: of that before he got elected the first time, and
Speaker 10: yet there are Christians who will surround him this morning
Speaker 10: and talk like he's the second Coming.
Speaker 1: Something's wrong with us. We need to be healed.
Speaker 10: We need to be healed. All of the nonsense around
Speaker 10: the Epstein files, a cabale of awfulness and privilege and
Speaker 10: power with all kinds of nameless victims, and that being
Speaker 10: tate played out on both sides of the Atlante. And
Speaker 10: they're those who are turning into a political game. This
Speaker 10: is not about politics. This is about those who suffer
Speaker 10: and cannot be seen and their voices are not heard.
Speaker 1: And I dropped by this morning to tell.
Speaker 2: You that God is not pleased with that.
Speaker 1: Little thing. Lord. That's Raphael Warnock preaching from the same
Speaker 1: poolpit that doctor mar Luther King Junior preach from Ebenez,
Speaker 1: a Baptist church not far from where we're sitting right now.
Speaker 1: I think that, first of all, I mean in terms
Speaker 1: of politics, which he said we're not we should not
Speaker 1: be focused on, particularly on that moment. I always consider
Speaker 1: him to be a dark horse for president of the
Speaker 1: United States. I think people would fear that. I think
Speaker 1: he has evangelicals that would support him. I think he's
Speaker 1: a very interesting candidate. I think him and like a
Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer as vice president would actually transform transform the country.
Speaker 1: But just back on the path of what we're talking
Speaker 1: about and how God's only party of the GOP, I
Speaker 1: think they're losing that battle when we talk about evangelical
Speaker 1: I don't want.
Speaker 4: To lose what you just said. We may need the
Speaker 4: minipod on that one that I had not. I hadn't
Speaker 4: thought about it, so I just want to put a
Speaker 4: pin in it. Becare for future or conversation. But clearly
Speaker 4: we see exhibited there what a real moral religious faith
Speaker 4: leader looks. Sounds like how he comports himself. But it
Speaker 4: didn't take too much effort to see the difference between
Speaker 4: that one and what came before him.
Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that we can also
Speaker 1: say is that scripture doesn't necessarily follow the politic or
Speaker 1: the policy of some even in deep re at Ruby States,
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw this up about Louisiana, and there
Speaker 1: is a state House bill that's advanced that would force
Speaker 1: unhoused people to choose between jail or a treatment program.
Speaker 1: If they choose treatment, they have to pay for it themselves,
Speaker 1: and if they can't afford to pay, they'll be forced
Speaker 1: to do unpaid labor slavery for the eight Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean we we we started out with Pete, then
Speaker 1: we went to Troy Nell's and then we tried to
Speaker 1: show you a glimpse of what it is from Ebenezer
Speaker 1: Baptist Church. And now we're actually talking about how those
Speaker 1: things effectuate policy, and we're seeing what's happening right now
Speaker 1: in LOUISIUMA.
Speaker 4: I wish we had somebody from down there to talk
Speaker 4: about this. We will have a person in mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's coming on. Yeah, well let's let's put
Speaker 1: a pin in that for sure. And I asked Gary
Speaker 1: about it. One of the things we've been preaching about.
Speaker 1: And I give I think people should give Angela Raie
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for this, but the Save Act
Speaker 1: there has been something that's been on our mind and
Speaker 1: the tip of right tongue for a long time. And
Speaker 1: John Thune recently it's come to our attention that the
Speaker 1: leader of the Senate, the Senate Majlated Yes. The tweet
Speaker 1: says that Trump called it his number one priority. He said,
Speaker 1: we guarantee the midterms, and Thune's response per punch bowl
Speaker 1: punch all the sudden that we all, you know, subscribe
Speaker 1: to in the mornings. If we don't have other pressing
Speaker 1: stuff in front of us, that has to get done,
Speaker 1: and we'll see about getting that going. The translation is
Speaker 1: that's your number one priority, but it isn't even in
Speaker 1: our top five. Earlier this year, Thune admitted the obvious,
Speaker 1: we don't have the votes either to proceed get on
Speaker 1: a talking filibuster nor sustain it if we got on it.
Speaker 1: A bill would have would require twenty one million American
Speaker 1: citizens to produce documents We've talked about that a lot,
Speaker 1: including their birth certificate, just to register to vote and
Speaker 1: actually vote on voting day. That bill is now, as
Speaker 1: John Thune said, thea dead on arrival. Last week, we
Speaker 1: talked about Marjorie Taylor Green, and one of the things
Speaker 1: we talked about Marjorie Taylor Green was her come to Jesus.
Speaker 1: You see the theme here, I'm actually rocking with a thing.
Speaker 3: There's an oddity to it, but I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a paradox, it's a paradox.
Speaker 3: It's a paradox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's look at Tucker Calls and I see
Speaker 1: if he had the same Jesus meeting the rest of
Speaker 1: us had at birth.
Speaker 13: So looking back being because I mean you and I
Speaker 13: and everyone else who supported him. He wrote speeches for him,
Speaker 13: I campaigned for him. I mean, we're implicated in this
Speaker 13: for sure. Yes, it's not enough to say well I
Speaker 13: changed my mind, or like, oh this is bad, I'm out.
Speaker 13: It's like in very small ways, but in real ways,
Speaker 13: you and me and millions of people like us are
Speaker 13: the reason this is happening right now. Yes, so I
Speaker 13: do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our
Speaker 13: own consciences. Uh, you know, we'll be tormented by it
Speaker 13: for a long time.
Speaker 1: I will be.
Speaker 13: And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people.
Speaker 13: It was not intentional, That's all I say. But anyway,
Speaker 13: but the question does present a self im mediate like
Speaker 13: what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't
Speaker 13: want to be a conspiracy nut, but like, clear there
Speaker 13: were signs of low character we need Clearly there signs
Speaker 13: of tons of people of low character who like perform
Speaker 13: their character.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 3: Sort of the norm. Actually, these days I've outperformed.
Speaker 1: My character a lot.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: I just I've already dragged Tucker Cross and for filth.
Speaker 6: But I just want to say this again to you, Tucker,
Speaker 6: this is why you have aged like spoiled milk, because
Speaker 6: you have you knew what you were doing. You can't
Speaker 6: say clearly there were signs of like character flaws and
Speaker 6: then say I'm sorry, like it's too late for I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: Like you need to do a hell of a lot
Speaker 6: more than I'm sorry. You need to be at the
Speaker 6: next hearing on HR forty championing reparations. You need to
Speaker 6: be championing livable wages for people who are struggling to
Speaker 6: make ends meet. Every day eggs that still cost too much.
Speaker 6: You need to be buying people eggs. You need to
Speaker 6: have an egg drive giveaway. You need to be giving
Speaker 6: away gas at the pump and pumping the damn gas yourself.
Speaker 6: You need to be doing a clothing drive for people
Speaker 6: who can't clothe their kids because they lost jobs, especially
Speaker 6: to six hundred thousand black women and counting who cannot
Speaker 6: find work.
Speaker 5: And you know what else you need to have.
Speaker 6: You need to have a DEI program for life, never
Speaker 6: to be relieved of said DEI program. And you need
Speaker 6: to tell everybody that DEI does not mean didn't earn it.
Speaker 6: It means diversity, equity, and inclusion, and you need to
Speaker 6: lift up every diverse and inclusive higher that you make
Speaker 6: and show people how bad as they are. And then
Speaker 6: when you're done doing all that, do it again and
Speaker 6: again and again. You know what I'm saying at y'all,
Speaker 6: Because Tucker would never he takes issue with Donald Trump's
Speaker 6: war stance because it is a leak on the economy.
Speaker 6: He does not he still is not on the right
Speaker 6: side of history when it comes to policies that benefit
Speaker 6: and impacts us.
Speaker 5: So I don't really care about his little floppy haired.
Speaker 6: Apology because he does not mean it now when it
Speaker 6: comes to substance of issues that matter to us.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I just I just so.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that the general mainstream media didn't treat this
Speaker 4: like like it was the second coming, right, Tuckle Carlson
Speaker 4: did something.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even a bleed, which tells me something.
Speaker 4: One kudos to mainstream media for not giving this skit
Speaker 4: any real time or attention.
Speaker 1: It really was. It was a skin.
Speaker 4: It was badly played by the way because something so critical,
Speaker 4: which is basically you turning about face on the man,
Speaker 4: that you went out there in Seoul for ten years,
Speaker 4: not just last election, the one before that. Since the
Speaker 4: dissension on the on that Tachi escalator, he's been selling
Speaker 4: the American people this terrible bad dream nightmare, as if
Speaker 4: it was a wet dream. And now I don't know
Speaker 4: what was said or what was done. I don't even
Speaker 4: believe Angela that the that the the rift is about
Speaker 4: the war. Tucker is so self indulgent, self indulged, so
Speaker 4: self so vainglorious, so rapacious as a person. That is
Speaker 4: something that he and Donald Trump share in common. They
Speaker 4: don't get pissed off and lose friends over political issues.
Speaker 4: They get pissed off and lose friends when they are
Speaker 4: personally and individually impacted, largely their money, their pocket. But
Speaker 4: it takes a megalomaniac to be personally offended by something
Speaker 4: you've done to me personally and individually, not you know, general,
Speaker 4: Oh the war, Oh Israel, Oh that's not it. I
Speaker 4: don't by I don't think we know yet what the
Speaker 4: rift is at the at the center. But I don't
Speaker 4: buy that it's about anything that's a policy difference, because
Speaker 4: he's not did Trump and showing anything that he didn't
Speaker 4: show before.
Speaker 3: He's not doing anything. He didn't say it was gonna
Speaker 3: do before.
Speaker 6: By can I tell y'all really quick? So I was asking, uh,
Speaker 6: who who Tucker Carlson was talking to? They said it
Speaker 6: was Tucker Crofton's brother, Buckley Carlsson. Well, then I look
Speaker 6: up Buckley Carlson. He also has a son named Buckley Carlson.
Speaker 6: Did y'all know that his son worked as the deputy
Speaker 6: press secretary to JD Vance in the Senate Office.
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Yes, And because I don't think anybody who works for
Speaker 1: jd Vance actually likes jd Vance.
Speaker 5: But here's the crazy part. They say that.
Speaker 6: Now it'll be two days ago his son walked out
Speaker 6: of the office, and I don't know if that means
Speaker 6: he quit.
Speaker 1: He quit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was coming out little bit very like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: they said, so that again some of the personal.
Speaker 3: But I think this is being played out.
Speaker 1: But it's easy to cast aside somebody who I tell
Speaker 1: everyone you were saying you were seeing the height of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's whatever right now, because after twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: when you are when you lose an election, as everybody
Speaker 1: predicts what happen, We've seen predictions go wrong and then
Speaker 1: you are pretty much a walking lane duck president. Other
Speaker 1: people start running for president, people will leave Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is because it's not Donald Trump, it's it's the proximity
Speaker 1: to power. Also, one of the things I will say
Speaker 1: is that organizations that truly matter that we've seen under
Speaker 1: attack for the last I say five and a half years.
Speaker 1: Tiffany corrected us in staid a decade whatever that may be.
Speaker 1: One of those organizations that was doing good work is
Speaker 1: a Southern Poverty Law Center and now that organization's under
Speaker 1: attack as well, people who've been fighting fighting back against
Speaker 1: white supremacy and extremism. Before we get to cash Hotel,
Speaker 1: I want to put this. I want to put this
Speaker 1: graphic up because just as we were preparing for the show,
Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted Tuesday over a
Speaker 1: discontinued program that use paid confidential informants to penetrate white
Speaker 1: supremacists and other organizations, as announced by Todd blanche I
Speaker 1: think we have that graphic to throw up there if
Speaker 1: we do. Yeah. And one of the things that's crazy
Speaker 1: about this is they were indicted because they paid informants
Speaker 1: who were part of these organizations that actually went out
Speaker 1: as a part of these organizations and did the work
Speaker 1: of these organizations, And they want the American public to
Speaker 1: believe that somehow they were paying to promote the agreements, which.
Speaker 4: Is just so they skipped over going after the groups themselves.
Speaker 4: Right And by the way, these are the same groups
Speaker 4: that under the last administration, under a bipartisan, non partisan
Speaker 4: intelligence community, the people who are responsible for collecting what
Speaker 4: are the greatest threats to the American people in the
Speaker 4: American interest around the world, around the world. I think
Speaker 4: who determined that the greatest threat to the American people
Speaker 4: in the American people's interests are these organizations that Southern
Speaker 4: Poverty of Law Center happened to paid informants into so
Speaker 4: that we could uncover on Earth. And I would offer
Speaker 4: I don't know this for fact, but their informansts probably
Speaker 4: were part and service to the American people by reporting
Speaker 4: back to these intelligence.
Speaker 1: Quentities that.
Speaker 3: Terrorist efforts may be underway.
Speaker 4: These people were decided not SBLC, but the people that
Speaker 4: they were trying to infiltrate. These people were decided to.
Speaker 3: Be the number one threat to the American people period.
Speaker 5: I think that it's important here. I know we have cash.
Speaker 5: But we also have the acting ag.
Speaker 6: I believe it's Todd Blanche, and I think that it
Speaker 6: would be important to hear people hear him frame this issue.
Speaker 5: So let's roll that clip.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I understand you're alleging
Speaker 1: that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders
Speaker 1: of KKK and other groups to continue their operations.
Speaker 2: Is that I'm not alleging it.
Speaker 14: The Grandeurary returning indictment that says that, and so what
Speaker 14: what the what the investigation found, according to the indictment
Speaker 14: that was returned today, is that they were paying So
Speaker 14: so the Southern Popery Law Center is raising money, asking
Speaker 14: folks to give them money to dismount racism, and over
Speaker 14: a very long period of time, they were using some
Speaker 14: of the money they raised from donors to pay to
Speaker 14: they call them field you know, basically to informants two
Speaker 14: for information, for access, to just pay them for for
Speaker 14: certain to do certain things. And so yes, that's exactly
Speaker 14: what the indictment charges.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they made that the SBOC did the work
Speaker 3: of the government.
Speaker 6: Well, I think that what they're trying to do is
Speaker 6: gasight people into believing that Severn Southern Poverty Law Center,
Speaker 6: with the limited funding they have is funding white supremacist
Speaker 6: ideology and behavior that it's funding and yeah, and it's
Speaker 6: fun and it's funding racism.
Speaker 5: We know that's not true.
Speaker 6: Southern Poverty Law Center actually has a legendary hate map,
Speaker 6: hate watch tracker, and how they have been able to
Speaker 6: be so successful for the most part.
Speaker 5: They've had some misses too.
Speaker 6: For example, I think they had Until Freedom or some
Speaker 6: other group that Tamika Mallory was affiliated with on this.
Speaker 6: So they've had some misses. I'm not saying that their flawless,
Speaker 6: but on the hate map and the hate watch. The
Speaker 6: reason out they've been able to track work that's been
Speaker 6: done over time have precise dates around hate activity hate
Speaker 6: field activity is because they had people infiltrating these groups.
Speaker 5: That was how they did this.
Speaker 6: So the fact that they're now saying, oh, they actually
Speaker 6: were funding this work to ensure that racism continues, its ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Quite the contrary, If the American government is so offended
Speaker 4: that they were funding this work, why would they jump
Speaker 4: skip hop over the organization that is then doing the
Speaker 4: work that they're so I mean.
Speaker 5: Because right, we know that.
Speaker 1: But fact, let's let's be extremely clear. What Todd Blinch
Speaker 1: and the Trump administration are doing is instead of indicting
Speaker 1: the KKK, they indict the group that is trying to
Speaker 1: stop the KKK. Yes, and I think that that we
Speaker 1: have to be extremely with our language about about how
Speaker 1: we're doing it. And I know that this is a
Speaker 1: very easy time to get down. But a lot like
Speaker 1: Papa Rai and our family people who have gone out
Speaker 1: and done the work is Louise Lucas, and she is
Speaker 1: my favorite elected official in the entire country. And I
Speaker 1: know that that's really weird to say, like that means
Speaker 1: I'm too knee deep in politics. When people like who's
Speaker 1: your favorite, I'm like, oh man. A state senator from Virginia,
Speaker 1: Luise Lucas wrote a clip because she she a bad one.
Speaker 15: We didn't ask for this mess, but we're gonna finish
Speaker 15: this mess. So I'm being real kind with my words today. Okay,
Speaker 15: they started, We'll finish it. We would not be in
Speaker 15: this place if it had not been for Donald Trump
Speaker 15: and Hishi and had against it trying to get what
Speaker 15: he called five.
Speaker 16: New seats that he was in the top of two.
Speaker 15: He ain't entitled, so he's entitled anything, and what he
Speaker 15: what we are saying is that in order for us
Speaker 15: to try to level the playing field, Virginia's gonna play
Speaker 15: a pivotal role in this whole process, because when we
Speaker 15: go from a ten to one map, we would put
Speaker 15: us in a good proture for us to make sure
Speaker 15: that we pushed back on his power.
Speaker 6: Graand so, and just to back into this for folks
Speaker 6: at home, there was a very important election on Tuesday
Speaker 6: in Virginia where there was a ballot initiative asking voters
Speaker 6: to change the a mid term change to the map
Speaker 6: the congressional and state legislative map. The state's redistrict and
Speaker 6: committee drew a map that gives Democrats a ten to
Speaker 6: one majority and favorability for them, which the voters approved.
Speaker 6: And so to Bakari's point, this state senator is now
Speaker 6: certainly one of my favorites. But I want to make
Speaker 6: sure you all understand the redistricting battle began mid term
Speaker 6: because of Donald Trump and his acolytes, and so Virginia said,
Speaker 6: you started it, we will she said, we'll f and
Speaker 6: finish it before. So right now, this what this helps
Speaker 6: the ten to one, actually ten to one now with
Speaker 6: California Utah and Virginia in play. Republicans changed the maps
Speaker 6: in Texas, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio, And right now
Speaker 6: there's a plus three being considered in Florida.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this. G eighty two good.
Speaker 1: She was born in nineteen forty four and she's been
Speaker 1: in office since nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Eight years old, so I know. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of conversations about age and politics and our elected officials
Speaker 1: force retirement. Yeah, but I'll take Louise Lucas over half.
Speaker 5: We'll take Louise over ninety eight percent.
Speaker 1: Can she beat it? Can she lead the House?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 4: But this is why I think we have forced retirement
Speaker 4: by the voters. Oh yeah, her constituents will decide when
Speaker 4: they are She got the.
Speaker 1: Smartest constituents in America because they just send her back.
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing and listen, and she's done
Speaker 1: a great deal of good work. I know, we have
Speaker 1: one of our brothers who is going to join us.
Speaker 4: Your favorite coming elected official one day, one day, we're
Speaker 4: putting it in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't run a few times, I know.
Speaker 3: But your favorite coming is still coming.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: The good thing about Gary too, that I think is
Speaker 6: so important is he doesn't just run for office. He
Speaker 6: also engages in civic engagement and instructing our people on
Speaker 6: their power. And so one of my favorite things he
Speaker 6: does is every election he tells people what voter turnout
Speaker 6: is looking like, what it is like in the black community,
Speaker 6: and he'll be like righteously angry about us showing up
Speaker 6: for ourselves. And so in a place like Louisiana, where
Speaker 6: both of my parents are from, I think it's so
Speaker 6: important to understand our power, even when it's been regularly
Speaker 6: stripped from you.
Speaker 5: Butkari brought that up earlier with that that clip, so
Speaker 5: is sure I will.
Speaker 1: Want to saying no, we want to and we want
Speaker 1: to bring Gary Chambers on. Gary is a friend of
Speaker 1: the show. Gary has been around for a long time,
Speaker 1: and Gary has apparently the humility of a curry sellers.
Speaker 4: Cause yeah, definitely himself right over himself, right, ask.
Speaker 5: A question about the picture might have a special frame.
Speaker 1: It's full full frame, right.
Speaker 4: I hate somebody gave me Unfortunately, somebody gave me with
Speaker 4: those after I can't pay Forgevernor and my mama put
Speaker 4: it up in my house.
Speaker 3: I think that is under the.
Speaker 5: Bed to see some of these pictures that they've drawn
Speaker 5: to me, and I'm like, who is this actually?
Speaker 17: Gary, tell us about the picture teacher the school teacher
Speaker 17: painted that for me.
Speaker 2: I love that from Ohio.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 17: I was like, it's wood, it's like on a wood,
Speaker 17: it's all wood, and so uh and in trinded me
Speaker 17: like two hundred of them in like God that I
Speaker 17: can put his yard signs for people.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's too beautiful not to have out. Really. I do
Speaker 2: feel some type of way sometimes about it being there,
Speaker 2: but it's.
Speaker 5: Too especially when these two have something to say about I.
Speaker 3: Mean, we're gonna move it to near the front door.
Speaker 1: I know. I like the fact that it's squarely in
Speaker 1: the frame.
Speaker 2: And all these all these reconstructed legislators too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got yourself right up there with them. So, Gary,
Speaker 1: before we before we get it to the topic of
Speaker 1: the show, because we want to we want to go
Speaker 1: to s report pretty quickly. I did want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about the Louisiana State House bill that advanced
Speaker 1: that would force unhoused people to choose between jail and
Speaker 1: or or treatment program or rehab and if they can't
Speaker 1: pay for it, what's what what is going on down
Speaker 1: in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: We have probably the most.
Speaker 17: Insensitive, in iar moral leadership in the country here in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Jeff Landry is a man about gimmicks and props.
Speaker 17: He's trying to figure out how does he get his
Speaker 17: way to be considered uh valuable as a presidential candidate
Speaker 17: for twenty twenty eight. And he does whatever he feels
Speaker 17: moves people to see him as the biggest conservative warrior
Speaker 17: in America. And he's got a legislature that he's whipped
Speaker 17: into submission to the degree that they just do.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is that the government wants. And so.
Speaker 17: These very inhumane people, these people don't care anything about
Speaker 17: the citizens of this state. They're bringing in billions of
Speaker 17: dollars in AI facilities. They're not taxing these people at
Speaker 17: the degree that they should so that you could provide
Speaker 17: housing for those that are unhoused, so that you can
Speaker 17: provide a livable ways for people so that they don't
Speaker 17: end up unhoused. Job creation and diversifying our economy is
Speaker 17: not a priority to these people, and that's how you
Speaker 17: end up with more people ended up unhoused on the
Speaker 17: streets because we're not focused on the things that actually
Speaker 17: create opportunities for people.
Speaker 2: We're just finding more ways to incarcerate people.
Speaker 17: And we were already the most incarcerated place in the
Speaker 17: going and so Jeff is now added Trump's detainees through
Speaker 17: ice and now he's trying to take the people off
Speaker 17: the streets and put them basically in concentration camps.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know anything that he can say no to
Speaker 2: as far as incarcerating people.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Shreveport, Louisiana.
Speaker 16: Nobody knows.
Speaker 1: One of the things that moved me this week and
Speaker 1: moved a lot of us was one of our elected
Speaker 1: officials in Shreveport, Taylor. Yeah, Taba. That was yeah, who
Speaker 1: actually told us with all her heart and all her
Speaker 1: chest about the pain that that community is going through
Speaker 1: in regards to a lot of the violence that we're
Speaker 1: seeing in our households and homes. Counselwoman Tabatha Taylor. She
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that there were young people from
Speaker 1: ages one to eight I believe, I don't know the
Speaker 1: exact ages, but it was eight of them who were murdered.
Speaker 1: Let's go to that. I don't know.
Speaker 18: What people think in the crevices of their mind.
Speaker 19: To want to harm another human being, let alone that
Speaker 19: of children who have their whole life ahead of them.
Speaker 19: From what I've learned about this incident is that it's
Speaker 19: domestic in nature.
Speaker 18: That makes it even more horrific. For all the fighting
Speaker 18: that we do as it relates to this. And maybe
Speaker 18: you can stand strong with this, but I can't without
Speaker 18: shedding tears of traumatic pain. I pain, and I grieve
Speaker 18: for this family. I grieve for the lives that are lost.
Speaker 19: And I'm asking you to please utilize every resource that
Speaker 19: the sheriff has brought forth. Now when you know that
Speaker 19: these situations occur, we cannot be and make this a joke.
Speaker 18: This is not a freaking joke. This is real and
Speaker 18: this is the result when someone snaps.
Speaker 19: So I'm gonna ask the community, along with prayer, with
Speaker 19: every mental health consultant, counselor that is out here, This
Speaker 19: family and.
Speaker 5: This community needs you.
Speaker 19: I need you, because how do we get through this,
Speaker 19: how do we get to the next level?
Speaker 16: It is real and this is raw, and these are the.
Speaker 19: Tragedies when there are domestic violence or domestic disturbances in
Speaker 19: our community.
Speaker 1: The names are Jala Elkins three, Shyla Elkins five, Caleb
Speaker 1: Pew six, Leila Pew seven, On Pew ten, Soriah Snow eleven,
Speaker 1: Carrot Darian, thank you, Kadarian Snow six, Braylin Snow five.
Speaker 1: The person responsible for the shooting, we won't say his
Speaker 1: name and the MHM relationships. Oh yeah, seven father their father, no.
Speaker 5: No, seven of them. He was the father of seven
Speaker 5: of the kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I just wanted to make sure that people
Speaker 1: listening and watching know that we don't uplift We're not
Speaker 1: uplifting him in this moment. I wanted to give that
Speaker 1: space for the for us to be able to say
Speaker 1: their names and let them them rest in power. Last
Speaker 1: night we had a conversation, and I wanted to be
Speaker 1: able to make space for us to have a conversation
Speaker 1: about accountability for men who respond such as this with
Speaker 1: deplorable acts. We we talked about justin Fairfax, We talked
Speaker 1: about Shreveport, we talked about down in Florida, the Miami
Speaker 1: is Miami Acount may vice mayor who lost her life.
Speaker 1: And it's not not not butt because I think button
Speaker 1: negates everything before it. But and I wanted to create
Speaker 1: a space where we could talk about black men who
Speaker 1: were yelling out and having significant mental health issues and
Speaker 1: wondering if we could have those conversations kind of at
Speaker 1: the same time with the level of nuance and layers
Speaker 1: that I think it requires. There was a young woman
Speaker 1: who came up to us last night isis while we
Speaker 1: were having this discussion at the end of our discussion,
Speaker 1: and she wanted us to make sure that we centered
Speaker 1: something else. So we had her sending a question, isis question?
Speaker 1: And then I want to I want to kind of
Speaker 1: lay it out and then let's have.
Speaker 5: Us talk hanted of Bland.
Speaker 20: I'm isis. I'm from Detroit living in Georgia. Just attended
Speaker 20: the live show That's Why I'm in my Car. Tonight's
Speaker 20: discussion had some insight, but it was somewhat disappointing to
Speaker 20: see that in a time where black women are not
Speaker 20: surviving their relationships with black men, we are censoring black
Speaker 20: men's metal Black men's men to help is absolutely important. However, again,
Speaker 20: black women are not surviving their relationships with black men. Okay,
Speaker 20: so when a woman is pregnant is one of the
Speaker 20: most dangerous times in her life because she's likely to
Speaker 20: be murdered by the man who impregnated her. And when
Speaker 20: women are trying to leave relationships with men is another
Speaker 20: incredibly risky, dangerous time in their lives because she's likely
Speaker 20: to be.
Speaker 21: Assaulted, stuctor, murdered by men.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: We have to discuss that. That has to be the
Speaker 2: center of the conversation.
Speaker 21: That while we all need to make things emotionally safe
Speaker 21: for each other, Black men need to make safe spaces
Speaker 21: for black.
Speaker 18: Men and show emotions.
Speaker 21: Black women need to make safe spaces for black women
Speaker 21: and show emotions. We all non binary people need to
Speaker 21: make safe spaces for each other. We have to make
Speaker 21: sure black women can survive relationships with black men. We
Speaker 21: haven't discussed intimate partner. We haven't discussed how men feel
Speaker 21: ownership over the wounds in our time a woman, and
Speaker 21: that is missing from this conversation.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: She did come up last night, and I think if
Speaker 4: it was Tiffany or you or Lolo had the had
Speaker 4: the thought of mine immediate yeah, to say, hey, can
Speaker 4: you please record that? Can we put that in a
Speaker 4: question in a comment, because you know, we many of
Speaker 4: us have been triggered kind of differently by a lot
Speaker 4: of these defense you know, these events of late horrific events.
Speaker 3: I was sharing last night with car how.
Speaker 4: Heartbroken, despite how I knew Justin and and the ways
Speaker 4: in which we worked together, I was most angry about
Speaker 4: him robbing the children not only of his presence, but
Speaker 4: of their mother's presence.
Speaker 1: And a scar a.
Speaker 3: How do you say a trauma? A wound that will
Speaker 3: never heal over their life.
Speaker 4: And it will likely be one that will pass be
Speaker 4: passed on to their children and their children's children, and
Speaker 4: so on and so forth. So that cycle. And that's
Speaker 4: not just the only example, it's in so many places.
Speaker 4: But the way this conversation has kind of taken off,
Speaker 4: as I understand it, over social media in a lot
Speaker 4: of real ways, was really about the failure to name
Speaker 4: a lot of the women who have been victimized by
Speaker 4: their relationship and the men and their relationship who have
Speaker 4: committed these murders.
Speaker 3: And I think we didn't.
Speaker 4: We failed at not being able to I think balance
Speaker 4: a fullsome conversation that would have included all the angles.
Speaker 4: It's not to say our angle the way it doesn't
Speaker 4: need attention. It does, but there were a lot of
Speaker 4: angles there that were miss And I just appreciate Hair
Speaker 4: holding all of us accountable to it.
Speaker 6: I really am hoping Gary, that we can hear from
Speaker 6: you and your story. Research that says Black women are
Speaker 6: six times more likely to be killed than white women
Speaker 6: an intimate partner violence. Forty five percent of Black women
Speaker 6: experience stalking, physical and sexual violence in their lifetimes, and
Speaker 6: an estimated fifty one percent of Black female adult homicides
Speaker 6: are related to intimate partner violence. That's according to the
Speaker 6: National Coalition against Domestic Violence. Garry, this is you know,
Speaker 6: an area that you know all too well, and I
Speaker 6: just really thought it was important seeing some of the
Speaker 6: things that you mentioned and shared spaces that were in
Speaker 6: I would love for you to share to this set
Speaker 6: that you feel comfortable your own experience with this.
Speaker 17: So first, thank you all for having the conversation I
Speaker 17: think is necessary. And two black men accountability is not
Speaker 17: an attack. I think that that's the beginning of the
Speaker 17: conversation for me. When the twenty twenty four election happened
Speaker 17: and people were dumping on black men for a host
Speaker 17: of reason, I was one of the first people to
Speaker 17: illuminate over eighty percent of black men did what we
Speaker 17: were supposed to do in that election. So when I
Speaker 17: come to these conversations and I make certain critiques of
Speaker 17: us as brothers. I am not making those critiques from
Speaker 17: a place where I'm not with you, where I don't
Speaker 17: understand you, where I don't hear you. But in the
Speaker 17: time where our sisters, our mothers, our children are being
Speaker 17: murdered by black men, we need to say something different
Speaker 17: than what we've been saying. We need to pause in
Speaker 17: the same ways that we have demanded that America pause
Speaker 17: and here when we have been harmed, when what we
Speaker 17: produce tells us that they don't feel safe, because every
Speaker 17: black woman, every black boy, is produced by a black man. First,
Speaker 17: we are the seed bearers. That is your seed in
Speaker 17: the earth. And every woman that is existing in this
Speaker 17: work is somebody's baby. And too many people are talking
Speaker 17: about these men who have done horrible things to these
Speaker 17: women and these children, and we haven't even sentered somebody's baby.
Speaker 17: We haven't even taken the time to see Serena Fairfax
Speaker 17: as somebody's baby, because we were talking about all we
Speaker 17: lost in a man who decided to take somebody's baby.
Speaker 17: And I think that that should cause every man to
Speaker 17: have some level of pause and reflection about why we
Speaker 17: do that and about why we have to center ourselves
Speaker 17: in our emotions in every conversation. I'm not saying that
Speaker 17: we're not getting over. I'm not saying that we're not
Speaker 17: in a bad situation. I'm saying that the answer to
Speaker 17: got that we choose is violence makes us a part
Speaker 17: of the crash our cartel because we lack emotional intelligence.
Speaker 17: I'm a product of family where my mother committed suicide
Speaker 17: when I was two months old, so I understand fully
Speaker 17: what it's like to grow up without a parent because
Speaker 17: of the complexities of marriage.
Speaker 2: My father was cheating on my mother.
Speaker 17: My mother had had three children back to back for
Speaker 17: my dad, and then she walks in one day and
Speaker 17: tells my dad, you love them children, don't you. He says, yes,
Speaker 17: I'm gonna leave you with him, goes in the room
Speaker 17: and shoots herself. There was no conversation about postpartum depression.
Speaker 17: What about that black woman? What about that black woman
Speaker 17: who had had three children and no matter what she
Speaker 17: was going through within herself, how did she express that
Speaker 17: to her community? How could she express that to her
Speaker 17: family and friends? How are black women today carrying the
Speaker 17: burden of having all them children? The man in Shreveport
Speaker 17: had seven children, How did those women carry the burden
Speaker 17: of carrying those children, caring for those children, seven of them,
Speaker 17: two different household How do you maintain stability in that
Speaker 17: all of those women maintain instability?
Speaker 2: And every day they are crying out for us to
Speaker 2: just stand there up and be men. I know it's hard.
Speaker 17: It is I've been through a divorce, I've attempted suicide twice.
Speaker 2: I know what it feels like to say to hell
Speaker 2: with all of this. I know what that feels like.
Speaker 2: But at no point have I ever decided to put
Speaker 2: my hands on a woman.
Speaker 17: I lose my empathy for men the minute that you
Speaker 17: decide to be violent against another human, I lose my
Speaker 17: empathy for what you're going through at that point. And
Speaker 17: that is what our sisters are saying to us right now,
Speaker 17: that they begin to lose that empathy that they automatically
Speaker 17: feel for us the minute that we become violent against them,
Speaker 17: and we should stop right at that moment, say nothing else,
Speaker 17: but we're sorry.
Speaker 2: Because we didn't hear them.
Speaker 17: And the same way that we can understand that when
Speaker 17: a white man kills a black man unarmed, that we
Speaker 17: don't want to hear all of the justifications and all
Speaker 17: of the excuses. We should understand that women don't want
Speaker 17: to hear all that pontificating.
Speaker 1: We do it.
Speaker 17: Because it should never be an option for us to
Speaker 17: be violent against each other in the ways that it is.
Speaker 17: We have made violence acceptable within our culture that violence
Speaker 17: breathes out in a host of ways.
Speaker 2: And black men.
Speaker 17: If the data says that fifty to fifty five percent
Speaker 17: of the Black women in America who are murdered are
Speaker 17: murdered by someone that they are in a relationship with,
Speaker 17: and the majority of black women are in relationship with
Speaker 17: black men, we could reduce the homicides of black women
Speaker 17: in this country simply by getting a grip on ourselves
Speaker 17: as black men.
Speaker 2: We could The worst thing I could do in the
Speaker 2: world is take another black life. Og said that to me.
Speaker 2: He said that when he leaves his.
Speaker 17: House every day, he takes his pistol with him because
Speaker 17: he wants to protect himself. But he thinks to him
Speaker 17: in his mind that the worst thing he could do
Speaker 17: in the world is to take the life of another
Speaker 17: black man.
Speaker 2: How many do we? How many of us actually feel
Speaker 2: that way?
Speaker 1: And do we?
Speaker 17: We've normalized this violent culture to the degree that when
Speaker 17: somebody kills somebody and we know that they're a killer,
Speaker 17: we still at their time search.
Speaker 2: How does that impact the family. We don't respect life enough.
Speaker 17: And if you don't respect life outside your house, how
Speaker 17: are you gonna respect the lives in your house?
Speaker 1: How do we break this cycle? I think me God
Speaker 1: gat I hear you, but that you are more profound
Speaker 1: than you know. I think. And that's why one of
Speaker 1: the reasons you're here at this particular time. God doesn't
Speaker 1: really make those type of mistake. He puts you here
Speaker 1: in our space to answer the question that Ice has answered.
Speaker 1: And I think that black men listening to this who
Speaker 1: disagree with you probably aren't listening to this show. I
Speaker 1: think most men who are listening to this show would
Speaker 1: simply say, hey man, But the next question that we
Speaker 1: have is like, how do we You said something that
Speaker 1: said black men need to get a grip, and then
Speaker 1: you talked about the cycle, and so I want to
Speaker 1: do two things. I want to make sure that we
Speaker 1: are I'm a black husband, black parent, But how do
Speaker 1: we break that cycle?
Speaker 2: I was having a conversation with a very close friend
Speaker 2: of mine yesterday, brother, and it turned into an argument
Speaker 2: that and we made up in the.
Speaker 1: End me, and you have had those before too, so
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 17: We have that is I think a part of the
Speaker 17: give and take iron sharp and gyron right. But in
Speaker 17: the group text, we going back and forth about some
Speaker 17: of the conversations and things that happened. I didn't agree
Speaker 17: with any of his responses. Uh, And he called me
Speaker 17: a couple of times. I didn't ask his call when
Speaker 17: he called me the first two times because I feel
Speaker 17: like I'm charged up, this might go left. I don't
Speaker 17: want to talk to you yet. But he wanted to talk,
Speaker 17: so he called the last time and I was hiding
Speaker 17: heavy and I told him, I said, you know, I'm
Speaker 17: gonna stoping with you, like like we're gonna stop with me,
Speaker 17: and you're gonna stop being We're gonna stop being cool
Speaker 17: if you can't take a minute to reflect on where
Speaker 17: you at. Dog Like as men were not missing the
Speaker 17: women every day, let's keep it a bean. Most brothers
Speaker 17: are not taking their advice from from women.
Speaker 2: If we were, we would be much further along in
Speaker 2: this process.
Speaker 17: Okay, So if you if we have to check each other,
Speaker 17: we got to get in conversation with each other and
Speaker 17: check each other.
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff that we left side. When you
Speaker 2: out with your homeboy and y'all having a couple of drinks.
Speaker 17: And he cat calling at this woman in a way
Speaker 17: where where she is being diminished or disrespected. Check your
Speaker 17: homeboy right there, Those little things turn into other things
Speaker 17: because you're disrespecting this black woman and you don't know her,
Speaker 17: you wanner, and you're objectifying it from the minute that
Speaker 17: you see her. And if you objectify it from the
Speaker 17: minute that you see her, you're gonna carry that.
Speaker 2: Conduct on in other ways.
Speaker 17: And we as black men, got to confront that we
Speaker 17: have made too many things acceptable and normal that are disrespectful.
Speaker 17: It's disrespectful. We have made too many and we allow it.
Speaker 17: He just planned out that shit not all right. I
Speaker 17: don't have a better way to say it right now,
Speaker 17: when we got dead babies at the hands of black men.
Speaker 17: And if that bothers you when we say that, ask yourself,
Speaker 17: why don't ask me to change the conversation to something else.
Speaker 17: Ask yourself, why are you struggling with that conversation? Why
Speaker 17: as a man, can we not center somebody other than you?
Speaker 17: Right now, I was listening to a podcast. I'm not
Speaker 17: gonna name it because I want to get into a
Speaker 17: controversy of the podcast that.
Speaker 2: In the podcast.
Speaker 17: In the podcast conversation, they were talking about, uh, the
Speaker 17: word feminism, whether you could say feminism or not, that
Speaker 17: that they needed another word for men who want to
Speaker 17: be supportive of feminism.
Speaker 2: We needed another word to be supportive of women. That
Speaker 2: is that right there?
Speaker 17: That kind of thinking is why do why does there
Speaker 17: need to be another word for us to feel man
Speaker 17: enough to support women? Why can't you be a feminist
Speaker 17: as a brother? Why does that make you feel less masculine?
Speaker 2: Why does that make you?
Speaker 17: And ask yourself those questions and if you can't answer
Speaker 17: those questions, you need therapy.
Speaker 1: Brother. My last question is, oh, go ahead, No, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about raising young boys because you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm just asking questions right now. People are probably
Speaker 1: going to be in the comment about this, that or
Speaker 1: the third. So I'm just literally asking from a place
Speaker 1: of love and learning here. But when we're raising young
Speaker 1: boys like stokely, what is the what's the message that
Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we don't pass like
Speaker 1: I think that we raised children sometimes and we take
Speaker 1: for granted the things that we should be articulating to them,
Speaker 1: that we may not.
Speaker 17: So I don't have a son. I have a daughter, Zoe,
Speaker 17: but I have a nephew, cousin, nephew, you know how
Speaker 17: we are my cousin. But he's like my nephew.
Speaker 1: Hebout to be a son. You're gonna raise them and
Speaker 1: put him through college and all them things.
Speaker 17: He's across the street from me at my parents' house,
Speaker 17: and he's ten, and little Brett is a smart little boy,
Speaker 17: active little kid. He likes to play, but he's always
Speaker 17: with my daughter Zoe. They're always together. See's sixteen, he's ten.
Speaker 17: I teach Brett now how to play with young girls
Speaker 17: when he's out in the yard, just doing active things
Speaker 17: with them. You can't rough house with a young lady.
Speaker 17: You never hit a girl when you get mad. He's
Speaker 17: never had those aggressions. But we talk about these things
Speaker 17: before you go out to play, because as adults, we
Speaker 17: understand what what you're going to face when you go
Speaker 17: out in the world.
Speaker 2: I think we don't prepare our kids for enough. We say,
Speaker 2: are they kids?
Speaker 17: We let them come back in, and we don't take
Speaker 17: the time to talk to young men about their emotions.
Speaker 17: Brett came to me one morning and he said he
Speaker 17: didn't want to go to school today. I said, why
Speaker 17: do you want to go to school today? He said,
Speaker 17: I'm going through this or this and the third. And
Speaker 17: I said, well, today, you got to understand that this
Speaker 17: is your job. That your job is to go to school,
Speaker 17: bring back good grades to us, and as a result,
Speaker 17: you're going to get these things later in life. We
Speaker 17: have to take the time with young men to give
Speaker 17: them the space to express themselves to us, but then
Speaker 17: teach them.
Speaker 2: How to have the intelligence to move on to do
Speaker 2: the next thing right.
Speaker 17: And too often we don't know how to process to
Speaker 17: the next thing, and we crash out or we give up.
Speaker 17: And I think that we are making excuses for people
Speaker 17: in multiple situations as adults that are faced with an
Speaker 17: obstacle that they don't know how to get to the
Speaker 17: other side of, so they just diminish everything in their face. Right,
Speaker 17: And that's what's happening right now because we aren't taking
Speaker 17: the time with our young men to teach them how
Speaker 17: to regulate themselves to the next decision, to the next day.
Speaker 17: My grandmother taught me after my first attempted suicide. She
Speaker 17: said to me, baby, keep going to sleep and getting
Speaker 17: up in the morning. It gets better.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 17: It took me until I was in my thirties to
Speaker 17: really understand what grandmother was saying when she said, it
Speaker 17: does get better. Doesn't mean that that day is gonna
Speaker 17: be good, Okay, doesn't mean that the next day is
Speaker 17: gonna be a good day.
Speaker 2: It means it's gonna be a better day.
Speaker 17: And I think that too many brothers are robbing themselves
Speaker 17: of the ability to get to a better day.
Speaker 2: And not only.
Speaker 17: Themselves, but you're robbing the entirety of families to get
Speaker 17: to a better day. It's one thing for you to
Speaker 17: make a decision for yourself, but then you make a
Speaker 17: decison for everybody else involved. That is just we got
Speaker 17: to wrestle with that, man.
Speaker 6: I Gary, I really appreciate what you're saying, especially around
Speaker 6: the piece around we don't take enough time to talk
Speaker 6: to young men about their emotions, and so in this
Speaker 6: moment in particular, I was frustrated most of last week
Speaker 6: because what I was and I'm just now being able
Speaker 6: to put words to it. After you said that, I
Speaker 6: was feeling like black women were holding the responsibility that
Speaker 6: all of us black folks carried. After George Floyd was
Speaker 6: murdered and people had to watch it for nine minutes
Speaker 6: and thirty seconds on TV. White people's response to that
Speaker 6: was for black people to teach me, Give me a
Speaker 6: book I can read, give me advice, give me somebody
Speaker 6: I can hire, give me a group I can fund,
Speaker 6: give me right. And so it felt last week like
Speaker 6: black women had to hold the responsibility of black men's
Speaker 6: mental health. We have a good friend who said, I
Speaker 6: don't like just the label of a mental health issue
Speaker 6: because I I have mental health issues and I would
Speaker 6: never right.
Speaker 5: So there's that bucket.
Speaker 6: But there's also this thing where I feel like, just
Speaker 6: like we were telling the white folks, y'all need to
Speaker 6: talk to yourselves. I really want that conversation to be
Speaker 6: with black men, and I would love for any of
Speaker 6: you all the way in here. But I just feel
Speaker 6: like we talk all the time. We can urge partners
Speaker 6: to go to therapy. We can say we're doing the
Speaker 6: work ourselves. We have a group chat where we're venting
Speaker 6: and vulnerable to our girls. And more often than not,
Speaker 6: I hear y'all have in group chats, but they're about
Speaker 6: sports and y'all arguing about if Lebron is still the gold,
Speaker 6: but it's not necessarily about mental health.
Speaker 5: I know that's not the exception, but generally it's the rule.
Speaker 6: Y'all don't have a lot of vulnerable spaces, which is
Speaker 6: why you would want to carve out space for Brent
Speaker 6: to be able to talk about his emotions, because everybody
Speaker 6: doesn't have that growing up. In fact, most young men
Speaker 6: are told, especially black boys, stop crying, you know, and
Speaker 6: nobody ever even gets a sense to like to really
Speaker 6: release the tears. Bakari and Andrew fortunately do not mind
Speaker 6: shedding a tear, but I do think that it's important
Speaker 6: for other people to understand that. And I don't think
Speaker 6: it's the role of black women. I'd love to hear
Speaker 6: what y'all think about that.
Speaker 17: You know, my first conversation with you, Angela. You might
Speaker 17: not remember this, but when you can't speak a Southern
Speaker 17: and when I said, you know, you you talking about
Speaker 17: black women, that you don't say nothing about the black men,
Speaker 17: and you said, well, y'all should say something about the
Speaker 17: black men.
Speaker 2: You say it unless I'm consistent.
Speaker 17: And when she said this, this is like, this is
Speaker 17: like ten years ago, okay, And in that conversation, I
Speaker 17: reflected on the other side of I said, she's right,
Speaker 17: She's right.
Speaker 2: You know, we we we as men, have to take
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 17: And that's why I've been kind of doggish with some
Speaker 17: of my friends, because you know, when we're confronted with this,
Speaker 17: right now, this is the time.
Speaker 2: Right now. Okay, we didn't get it right before, brothers
Speaker 2: get it right now.
Speaker 17: The question that needs to be asked is why nobody
Speaker 17: had a job for the man that crashed out.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of us are just sitting
Speaker 1: in this moment and not wanting to deal with that
Speaker 1: accountability that he probably led justin and surrender.
Speaker 17: We failed justin, and then as a failure, as a
Speaker 17: failing to justine, he ends up where he does right,
Speaker 17: and nothing about, nothing about his decisions are justifiable excusable
Speaker 17: in any way, shape or form. Because no matter what
Speaker 17: you are going through, it is never acceptable to choose
Speaker 17: violence against someone else. And that has to be the
Speaker 17: framing of everything that we do in this that violence
Speaker 17: against anyone else is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: It is unacceptable for us to harm a woman. It
Speaker 2: is unacceptable for a woman to harm us.
Speaker 17: If my daddy told me, if y'all got to be
Speaker 17: putting y'all hands on each other.
Speaker 2: Y'all need to get the hell away from each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 17: I came into this at eighteen when I got into
Speaker 17: the dating conversation with my father telling me, if you
Speaker 17: have to be putting your hands on each other, you
Speaker 17: need to get the hell away from each other. There
Speaker 17: are people that I've been in a relationship with that
Speaker 17: will tell you Gary might have done this or Gary
Speaker 17: did that. They will never tell you I put my
Speaker 17: hands on them to harm them. That has not been
Speaker 17: acceptable in my family. When a man in my family
Speaker 17: did hit women, we shine that Negro, you can't come
Speaker 17: around here.
Speaker 2: We gonna break matter of fact, tell her and the
Speaker 2: kids to come over here. Negro, you can't come. That
Speaker 2: needs to be the position. Thanksgiving dinner, you got that
Speaker 2: abuser sitting at the table.
Speaker 1: What do we do with the pre crash out niggas
Speaker 1: like you? You can see it. We all so we
Speaker 1: all have You know, we I had conversations with justin
Speaker 1: this year, right, which is what's sitting on my heart.
Speaker 1: We've all had those conversations. We have those people in
Speaker 1: our lives now and just for the purposes of this conversation,
Speaker 1: those niggas that we know are spiraling downward those kind
Speaker 1: of pre crash out like, what do we what do
Speaker 1: we do with them? You know, the people who have
Speaker 1: lost somebody who don't have a job, who's girl just
Speaker 1: I mean you you can see it. It's not anything
Speaker 1: we don't see, but we treat it like a car crash.
Speaker 1: We just ride by and then we tell people what
Speaker 1: we just saw. How do we with our with our
Speaker 1: homeboys in particular, what are some of the And I'm
Speaker 1: treating you like my damn psychologists right now. I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing out questions to help better my life. So just
Speaker 1: forgive me for that. But what do we do with
Speaker 1: those pre crash outs?
Speaker 2: I seek one. I don't know how to say this.
Speaker 17: My mind keeps going to the same thought that there's
Speaker 17: some situations where we need to tell that woman to
Speaker 17: protect ourselves and get out.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 18: I am.
Speaker 2: I am deeply concerned about the safety of our women.
Speaker 1: And if we've.
Speaker 17: Recognized that a brother is at that point, we need
Speaker 17: to talk to that sister and help that sister make
Speaker 17: sure that she is safe.
Speaker 2: That is the position that I think we need to
Speaker 2: take first.
Speaker 17: Then we need to do everything within our power to
Speaker 17: get that brother to resource and then the help that
Speaker 17: he can get. I struggle when I heard some of
Speaker 17: the conversations about the organizations and the networks that Justin
Speaker 17: was in that those organizations and networks had not provided
Speaker 17: a contract, had not provided an opportunity to Everything doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have to be public.
Speaker 17: But I think that what we do as black people
Speaker 17: is the minute you got a dot of a stain
Speaker 17: on you, we start acting.
Speaker 2: Like you untouchable, and you treat them just as much
Speaker 2: of a pariah as white people do. Like people can't.
Speaker 3: Like people can't.
Speaker 2: Redeem himself from their worst day, he can't redeem himself
Speaker 2: from this.
Speaker 17: Now, nobody gives a damn he was a lieutenant governor
Speaker 17: of Virginia anymore. Nobody will ever talk about any good
Speaker 17: thing he ever did, because this moment will outlive all
Speaker 17: of that.
Speaker 5: And by the way, Gary won't say it because he
Speaker 5: nicer than me.
Speaker 6: He's talking about the bulet because the bulet definitely has
Speaker 6: money and definitely has people in it that could have helped.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how.
Speaker 17: Somebody and I understand people saying I don't want to
Speaker 17: be attached to certain controversies, but you don't have to
Speaker 17: be attached to a controversy to support or.
Speaker 2: Help a black person.
Speaker 17: And I think that we are spending too much time
Speaker 17: leaving people in the wilderness of the world and wondering
Speaker 17: how shit ends up where it ends up because we
Speaker 17: don't give a damn, because we don't act like community,
Speaker 17: because we don't love black people through their shit and
Speaker 17: some shit we can love you through.
Speaker 2: We cannot love you through murder. I can't. My empathy
Speaker 2: starts walking all the way out the door.
Speaker 17: When somebody takes another life, I want you to face
Speaker 17: some level of consequence at that point.
Speaker 2: If it is not a righteous murder.
Speaker 17: What I mean by righteous murder where somebody is being
Speaker 17: harmed and you then take the life of that person
Speaker 17: that's harming someone.
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing that because you do not have to
Speaker 2: take another life.
Speaker 17: And I think that that is the very premise of
Speaker 17: the conversation we got to get to as men, because
Speaker 17: we've defined ourselves as mancho and defined ourselves as men by.
Speaker 2: How violent we can be.
Speaker 17: The truth of the matter is the greatest men I
Speaker 17: know have taken the time and loved me, have taken
Speaker 17: the time to hear me. My biological father was an
Speaker 17: alcoholic till I was ten years old. My uncle William
Speaker 17: became my father when I was eight and my daddy
Speaker 17: wasn't there and I was getting kicked out of school
Speaker 17: and I was a bad emotional kid. That man sat
Speaker 17: with me and he cried with me. Take the time
Speaker 17: to cry with another black man. Let him get it out.
Speaker 2: We spend so much time telling me and get over it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be all right.
Speaker 13: Dog.
Speaker 2: We sets our way out of it. We drug our
Speaker 2: way through it.
Speaker 17: We go from one woman to the next woman, abusing
Speaker 17: them sexually, and then we end up with the baggage
Speaker 17: that we can't handle. And then we take all of
Speaker 17: that out on the people around us. The Bible says,
Speaker 17: charity begins at home. At home, you smiling at everybody
Speaker 17: at the job, but you can't smile at them kids
Speaker 17: in the house. You you can show up for that
Speaker 17: white man and be as profession put the damn act
Speaker 17: on for your family.
Speaker 2: Charity begins at home. Do it until it until it
Speaker 2: feels natural. I know some of the things because they
Speaker 2: taught us as men not to feel that.
Speaker 17: We don't always know how to process through. But let
Speaker 17: yourself feel it. Let yourself feel the pain and then
Speaker 17: let yourself get to the point where you realize the
Speaker 17: pain subsides. And we as men have to have that
Speaker 17: conversation with men, But we have to protect the women first.
Speaker 17: Our first obligation is to protect these women. As a
Speaker 17: father of a sixteen year old daughter, I don't want
Speaker 17: nobody to harm my baby, and.
Speaker 2: I want us to see every black woman like it's
Speaker 2: our baby.
Speaker 17: If you don't want nobody to do that to your child,
Speaker 17: don't do that to nobody else's child.
Speaker 2: Every black woman is somebody else's child.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Carrie.
Speaker 17: We can do so much better, That's all I'm saying, Brothers,
Speaker 17: and it's not nobody is against you to tell you
Speaker 17: that we can do better.
Speaker 2: And I know it is hard.
Speaker 17: I know it feels like the world is against us.
Speaker 17: But there are brothers who love you and will hold
Speaker 17: you down. But you got to love yourself enough to live.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Gary Chambers.
Speaker 2: Thank y'all.
Speaker 16: Who cares about truth in the last morning, seen it.
Speaker 1: Well, try to read this outra so we can get
Speaker 1: out of y'all.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Carrie, thank y'all.
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