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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gillim, I guess it's just me and you today.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I heard it was gonna be a couple of us today.

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Speaker 4: Well tell you well, you and you and I here

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Speaker 4: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it. Let me let me read this exactly

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Speaker 1: as it's written a verse and then we can get

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Speaker 1: into the show is a pro y'all. This is episode

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Speaker 1: Native Lampod where we give you all our things, our

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Speaker 1: breakdown of politics and culture. I am your host, Lakari

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Speaker 1: Sellers today.

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Speaker 3: Oh there she is another host. Look at she's joining U, y'all.

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Speaker 1: He mom, how you feel? So we have Andrew Gillam

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Speaker 1: of course to my left in Atlanta with me, and

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Speaker 1: then we had the incomparable amazed, rable, beautiful. Ya eyebrows

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Speaker 1: look good too.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna compliment you on the red red.

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Speaker 3: Works for you.

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Speaker 1: For us. Look at that Angela raie. So I want

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Speaker 1: to say first, we had an amazing live show last night.

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Speaker 4: I was a shout out to the people in Atlanta

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Speaker 4: as well as those who traveled. I met a young

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Speaker 4: lady I think a number of us did, who flew

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Speaker 4: from Miami. She and a colleague of hers, and then

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Speaker 4: she bought two more people who live in Atlanta along

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Speaker 4: with her to the show last night. And I said,

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Speaker 4: you came up, you came visit it. No, I heard

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Speaker 4: y'all were gonna be here, and so I came.

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Speaker 3: I'm a supporter.

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Speaker 4: I listened, and I regret that I'm not recalling her

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Speaker 4: name at the moment, but just thank y'all.

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Speaker 3: Thank y'all so much.

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Speaker 1: Well every time. Time is the most valuable thing that

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Speaker 1: we had. There were a lot of people who spent

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Speaker 1: time with us last night we had the building was

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Speaker 1: almost packed in Wanery. Yeah. I just appreciated the camaraderie.

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Speaker 3: And the City Wannery staff who were all incredible. And

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Speaker 3: to their chef who made some.

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Speaker 1: It was they ain't had no broccoli, they had b

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Speaker 1: It was brock had the whole the whole thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people were asking about you, Angela RII.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm sorry, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Feeling how you feeling? What's going on?

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Speaker 6: I think most importantly we're just checking out how my

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Speaker 6: dad is feeling. He had to go through like a

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Speaker 6: stint procedure, and they opted not to do the stint,

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Speaker 6: so now he's got some other cardio things to work through.

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Speaker 6: And I think we've all talked about on this show

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Speaker 6: just aging with aging parents is not for the faint

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Speaker 6: of heart.

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Speaker 5: But I would not have it any other way. Our

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Speaker 5: brother Leonard told me the other day.

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Speaker 6: He was like, I would prefer getting older, and I

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Speaker 6: think that that's a good perspective to have. So I

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Speaker 6: would share a video with all of you in the audience.

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Speaker 6: But my dad didn't have his hat on, and he

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Speaker 6: can be a little vain. His hair was sticking up,

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Speaker 6: and all he wanted was some chicken wings when he

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Speaker 6: could finally eat. So he is supposed to be discharged

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Speaker 6: later today. Of course we're recording Wednesday, but hopefully all

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Speaker 6: is well. I'm refusing to let him leave until he

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Speaker 6: sees a cardiologist because I think that they've made a

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Speaker 6: number of, you know, interesting decisions like pacemaker, no pacemaker, stint,

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Speaker 6: Like we just we need to get on the same page.

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Speaker 6: So I appreciate you all holding it down. I want

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Speaker 6: to say thank you to the community in Atlanta for

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Speaker 6: supporting my family. Andrew Bacari and Tiffany who came back

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Speaker 6: for a special appearance, and of course doctor Keith for

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Speaker 6: all she's doing in the community there in Atlanta as well.

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Speaker 6: So we really appreciate you all. City Winery, thank you

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Speaker 6: for partnering with us.

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Speaker 4: Well, Angela, just know that at the start we had

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Speaker 4: a collective prayer for you and your father joined.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad watched.

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Speaker 3: Because she's a little bit invested.

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Speaker 5: I did not idea how do we do? You guys

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Speaker 5: did great.

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Speaker 6: I didn't like the lighting, which is not a U problem,

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Speaker 6: but and I'm actually surprised Andrew didn't say anything.

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Speaker 5: He's normally the chief among us on lighting.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see, I am I got issues about the

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Speaker 6: See, uh the lighting in there too. I'm looking at

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Speaker 6: the top of y'all's heads.

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Speaker 3: Well you're looking at the tope of mind for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the top of my head,

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Speaker 1: this is rucker roots. Shout out just I'm hooking up

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Speaker 1: Jordan right now, who's one of our producers with some

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Speaker 1: rucker roots. I don't miss a beat, Ellen, I don't

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Speaker 6: Good job, because you better, you better throw a promo

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Speaker 6: in there. We could always use some more ads on

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Speaker 6: this show, so we'll take a pro bono one for now.

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Speaker 4: Just to my bad y'all, a special thanks and appreciation

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Speaker 4: for for for our sister Tiffany, who at the drop

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Speaker 4: of the.

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Speaker 3: Hat to your call.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't even wait for me. Latasha and tiff

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if you I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you got the phone call, but I got a phone

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Speaker 1: call that said he did he didn't going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Angela. Yeah, that's right, he didn't pick up. Latasha's

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Angela. Tiffany's going to do the show.

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, all right, and and the audience was overjoyed.

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Speaker 1: We actually had a person bring her a gift.

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Speaker 4: She did get a gift, and I actually have the

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Speaker 4: card from the gift, and the card was written to

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Speaker 4: this all of us, the host of Native lampod and

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Speaker 4: did he write basically, he just you know. We said

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's emotional for me.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of him, and he said that this

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Speaker 4: show has changed his life. And we had a number

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Speaker 4: of first timers who were in the audience last night,

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Speaker 4: thanks to normal regular family members.

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Speaker 3: Native lampod family members.

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Speaker 4: Inviting friends, and there was so many of them who

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Speaker 4: came up Angela at the end and said, this was

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Speaker 4: my first time hearing and I cannot believe I have

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Speaker 4: missed x x x number of episodes. I'm on, I'm hooked,

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Speaker 4: I'm subscribing, so on and so forth.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, really beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had we had fun and we spent

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Speaker 1: time at the end. If you come to a Native

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Speaker 1: Land show, trust me, we're gonna stay until the last

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Speaker 1: last night per se to do FYSA, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: hop into it right now. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: start with Pete. What's his last name? What's his real

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Speaker 1: last seth? Hey, I can't I can they get on

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Speaker 1: me about not being able to run.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was deliberate, was to let me find out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think my getting away that's what

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Speaker 1: Ellen said.

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Speaker 5: Jesus, I'm sorry here with you guys are about to

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Speaker 5: get dragged.

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Speaker 6: You know this is the wrong time to be playing

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Speaker 6: like you better hope they just cut that out, because

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Speaker 6: why that was good the way the way. No, it's

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Speaker 6: it's not it's not Ellen, It's not you the way

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Speaker 6: these people out here on heads canceling.

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Speaker 1: We get there.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, okay, let me read, let me exactly to

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Speaker 7: speed ag uring a Pentagon prayer breakfast last Wednesday, secretary

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Speaker 7: or Pete Haig seth ready a fake Bible verse.

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Speaker 1: It was actually from perfect.

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Speaker 3: Roll that love it.

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Speaker 8: So the prayer is Ceesar twenty five seventeen, and it reads,

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Speaker 8: and pray with me please the path of the down

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Speaker 8: aviator and is beset on all sides by the iniquities

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Speaker 8: of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed

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Speaker 8: is he who, in the name of camaraderie and duty

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Speaker 8: the lost the valley of darkness.

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Speaker 2: For he is truly his brother's keeper darkness.

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Speaker 9: And the finder lost children. And I will strike down

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Speaker 9: upon them with great vengeance and furious And those who

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Speaker 9: attempt and destroy my brother, you will know my call

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Speaker 9: sign those who Sandy won.

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Speaker 2: When I lay my vengeance.

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Speaker 10: Brothers upon and you will know my name is the

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Speaker 10: law when I lay my.

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Speaker 6: Vengeance upon the first of all, can we just acknowledge

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Speaker 6: and shout out Samuel L.

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Speaker 5: Jackson's Jerry Kerwe.

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Speaker 6: Pete Hegg said, should have borrowed it for his re

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Speaker 6: enactment of pulp fiction.

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Speaker 1: He didn't know, Angela, I know, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: I want to shout out hit the staffer because there

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Speaker 1: is a staffer who.

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Speaker 4: Set them up.

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Speaker 1: His staffer. His staff hates him because his staff was like, watch.

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Speaker 6: This, that was the know what book in the Bible is?

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Speaker 6: I don't know what book that is. It's not in there,

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Speaker 6: he says, chapter No, it's not stopped.

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Speaker 3: After inviting them to please pray with me, but they

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Speaker 5: So my issue is with all these slave catches out there,

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Speaker 5: because what are they doing? Like, why were they all

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Speaker 5: like what?

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Speaker 1: He does this every week?

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Speaker 4: He does every week since the war. He's he holds

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Speaker 5: Said, I wanted to send you all a clip of

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Speaker 5: the dude again, don't don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't send it now because let me just tell you

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Speaker 1: minutes in thank you.

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Speaker 5: This is related.

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Speaker 6: So Piers Morgan, there was a guy that came on

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Speaker 6: Piers Morgan. It was uh ygd I think did this

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Speaker 6: Ali Hey?

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Speaker 5: Did his name? Anyway? He was on Piers Morgan with

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Speaker 5: Pete Haig. Seth's pastor look like the guy.

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Speaker 1: The guy, he was like, don't you can't call you

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Speaker 1: so passing no more?

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Speaker 6: He hit and he dragged him and he's like, you're

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Speaker 6: the reason Pete haig Seth is doing this, and then

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Speaker 6: went on to tell him all the reasons why he

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Speaker 6: wasn't a real Christian.

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Speaker 5: It was magical. So if y'all have whoa, yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's out the clip.

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Speaker 5: Let's roll it real quick, real quick quick.

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Speaker 2: It's very good.

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Speaker 11: I have no problem attacking wolves in sheep's clothing. I

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Speaker 11: have no problem attacking a man who wrote that American

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Speaker 11: slavery was mutually harmonious between the slave master and the slave.

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Speaker 1: That's you.

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Speaker 11: I have no problem attacking a man who probably says

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Speaker 11: he wants to do away with the nineteenth Amendment which

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Speaker 11: gave women the right to vote. I have no problem

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Speaker 11: attacking a man like yourself who sits here incoherently supporting

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Speaker 11: an incoherent, unwinnable illegal war and Iran. I have no

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Speaker 11: problem attacking you a man who is the religious leader

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Speaker 11: of Pete Hegseth, A man who's a cosplay crusader who's

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Speaker 11: leading some type of crusade. Probably you put them on

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Speaker 11: as a secretary of defense, getting Americans and innocent civilians killed.

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Speaker 2: I wish you would be a better Christian. I wish

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Speaker 2: you would open up the Bible.

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Speaker 11: I wish you would meet the Jesus that I met

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Speaker 13: And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people.

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Speaker 5: And you know what else you need to have.

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Speaker 6: You need to have a DEI program for life, never

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Speaker 6: Because Tucker would never he takes issue with Donald Trump's

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Speaker 5: So I don't really care about his little floppy haired.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised that the general mainstream media didn't treat this

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Speaker 4: not just last election, the one before that. Since the

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Speaker 4: dissension on the on that Tachi escalator, he's been selling

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Speaker 4: the American people this terrible bad dream nightmare, as if

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Speaker 4: it was a wet dream. And now I don't know

447
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Speaker 4: what was said or what was done. I don't even

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Speaker 4: believe Angela that the that the the rift is about

449
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Speaker 4: the war. Tucker is so self indulgent, self indulged, so

450
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Speaker 4: self so vainglorious, so rapacious as a person. That is

451
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Speaker 4: something that he and Donald Trump share in common. They

452
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Speaker 4: don't get pissed off and lose friends over political issues.

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Speaker 4: They get pissed off and lose friends when they are

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Speaker 4: personally and individually impacted, largely their money, their pocket. But

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Speaker 4: it takes a megalomaniac to be personally offended by something

456
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Speaker 4: you've done to me personally and individually, not you know, general,

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Speaker 4: Oh the war, Oh Israel, Oh that's not it. I

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Speaker 4: don't by I don't think we know yet what the

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Speaker 4: rift is at the at the center. But I don't

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Speaker 4: buy that it's about anything that's a policy difference, because

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Speaker 4: he's not did Trump and showing anything that he didn't

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Speaker 4: show before.

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Speaker 3: He's not doing anything. He didn't say it was gonna

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Speaker 3: do before.

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Speaker 6: By can I tell y'all really quick? So I was asking, uh,

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Speaker 6: who who Tucker Carlson was talking to? They said it

467
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Speaker 6: was Tucker Crofton's brother, Buckley Carlsson. Well, then I look

468
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Speaker 6: up Buckley Carlson. He also has a son named Buckley Carlson.

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Speaker 6: Did y'all know that his son worked as the deputy

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Speaker 6: press secretary to JD Vance in the Senate Office.

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And because I don't think anybody who works for

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Speaker 1: jd Vance actually likes jd Vance.

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Speaker 5: But here's the crazy part. They say that.

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Speaker 6: Now it'll be two days ago his son walked out

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Speaker 6: of the office, and I don't know if that means

477
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Speaker 6: he quit.

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Speaker 1: He quit?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was coming out little bit very like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they said, so that again some of the personal.

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Speaker 3: But I think this is being played out.

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Speaker 1: But it's easy to cast aside somebody who I tell

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Speaker 1: everyone you were saying you were seeing the height of

484
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's whatever right now, because after twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: when you are when you lose an election, as everybody

486
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Speaker 1: predicts what happen, We've seen predictions go wrong and then

487
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Speaker 1: you are pretty much a walking lane duck president. Other

488
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Speaker 1: people start running for president, people will leave Donald Trump

489
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Speaker 1: is because it's not Donald Trump, it's it's the proximity

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Speaker 1: to power. Also, one of the things I will say

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Speaker 1: is that organizations that truly matter that we've seen under

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Speaker 1: attack for the last I say five and a half years.

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Speaker 1: Tiffany corrected us in staid a decade whatever that may be.

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Speaker 1: One of those organizations that was doing good work is

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Speaker 1: a Southern Poverty Law Center and now that organization's under

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Speaker 1: attack as well, people who've been fighting fighting back against

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Speaker 1: white supremacy and extremism. Before we get to cash Hotel,

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Speaker 1: I want to put this. I want to put this

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Speaker 1: graphic up because just as we were preparing for the show,

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Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted Tuesday over a

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Speaker 1: discontinued program that use paid confidential informants to penetrate white

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Speaker 1: supremacists and other organizations, as announced by Todd blanche I

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Speaker 1: think we have that graphic to throw up there if

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Speaker 1: we do. Yeah. And one of the things that's crazy

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Speaker 1: about this is they were indicted because they paid informants

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Speaker 1: who were part of these organizations that actually went out

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Speaker 1: as a part of these organizations and did the work

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Speaker 1: of these organizations, And they want the American public to

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Speaker 1: believe that somehow they were paying to promote the agreements, which.

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Speaker 4: Is just so they skipped over going after the groups themselves.

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Speaker 4: Right And by the way, these are the same groups

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Speaker 4: that under the last administration, under a bipartisan, non partisan

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Speaker 4: intelligence community, the people who are responsible for collecting what

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Speaker 4: are the greatest threats to the American people in the

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Speaker 4: American interest around the world, around the world. I think

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Speaker 4: who determined that the greatest threat to the American people

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Speaker 4: in the American people's interests are these organizations that Southern

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Speaker 4: Poverty of Law Center happened to paid informants into so

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Speaker 4: that we could uncover on Earth. And I would offer

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Speaker 4: I don't know this for fact, but their informansts probably

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Speaker 4: were part and service to the American people by reporting

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Speaker 4: back to these intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Quentities that.

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Speaker 3: Terrorist efforts may be underway.

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Speaker 4: These people were decided not SBLC, but the people that

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Speaker 4: they were trying to infiltrate. These people were decided to.

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Speaker 3: Be the number one threat to the American people period.

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Speaker 5: I think that it's important here. I know we have cash.

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Speaker 5: But we also have the acting ag.

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Speaker 6: I believe it's Todd Blanche, and I think that it

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Speaker 6: would be important to hear people hear him frame this issue.

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Speaker 5: So let's roll that clip.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I understand you're alleging

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Speaker 1: that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders

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Speaker 1: of KKK and other groups to continue their operations.

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Speaker 2: Is that I'm not alleging it.

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Speaker 14: The Grandeurary returning indictment that says that, and so what

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Speaker 14: what the what the investigation found, according to the indictment

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Speaker 14: that was returned today, is that they were paying So

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Speaker 14: so the Southern Popery Law Center is raising money, asking

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Speaker 14: folks to give them money to dismount racism, and over

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Speaker 14: a very long period of time, they were using some

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Speaker 14: of the money they raised from donors to pay to

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Speaker 14: they call them field you know, basically to informants two

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Speaker 14: for information, for access, to just pay them for for

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Speaker 14: certain to do certain things. And so yes, that's exactly

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Speaker 14: what the indictment charges.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so they made that the SBOC did the work

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Speaker 3: of the government.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that what they're trying to do is

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Speaker 6: gasight people into believing that Severn Southern Poverty Law Center,

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Speaker 6: with the limited funding they have is funding white supremacist

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Speaker 6: ideology and behavior that it's funding and yeah, and it's

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Speaker 6: fun and it's funding racism.

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Speaker 5: We know that's not true.

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Speaker 6: Southern Poverty Law Center actually has a legendary hate map,

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Speaker 6: hate watch tracker, and how they have been able to

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Speaker 6: be so successful for the most part.

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Speaker 5: They've had some misses too.

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Speaker 6: For example, I think they had Until Freedom or some

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Speaker 6: other group that Tamika Mallory was affiliated with on this.

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Speaker 6: So they've had some misses. I'm not saying that their flawless,

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Speaker 6: but on the hate map and the hate watch. The

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Speaker 6: reason out they've been able to track work that's been

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Speaker 6: done over time have precise dates around hate activity hate

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Speaker 6: field activity is because they had people infiltrating these groups.

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Speaker 5: That was how they did this.

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Speaker 6: So the fact that they're now saying, oh, they actually

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Speaker 6: were funding this work to ensure that racism continues, its ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Quite the contrary, If the American government is so offended

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Speaker 4: that they were funding this work, why would they jump

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Speaker 4: skip hop over the organization that is then doing the

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Speaker 4: work that they're so I mean.

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Speaker 5: Because right, we know that.

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Speaker 1: But fact, let's let's be extremely clear. What Todd Blinch

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Speaker 1: and the Trump administration are doing is instead of indicting

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Speaker 1: the KKK, they indict the group that is trying to

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Speaker 1: stop the KKK. Yes, and I think that that we

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Speaker 1: have to be extremely with our language about about how

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Speaker 1: we're doing it. And I know that this is a

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Speaker 1: very easy time to get down. But a lot like

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Speaker 1: Papa Rai and our family people who have gone out

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Speaker 1: and done the work is Louise Lucas, and she is

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Speaker 1: my favorite elected official in the entire country. And I

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Speaker 1: know that that's really weird to say, like that means

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Speaker 1: I'm too knee deep in politics. When people like who's

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Speaker 1: your favorite, I'm like, oh man. A state senator from Virginia,

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Speaker 1: Luise Lucas wrote a clip because she she a bad one.

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Speaker 15: We didn't ask for this mess, but we're gonna finish

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Speaker 15: this mess. So I'm being real kind with my words today. Okay,

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Speaker 15: they started, We'll finish it. We would not be in

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Speaker 15: this place if it had not been for Donald Trump

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Speaker 15: and Hishi and had against it trying to get what

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Speaker 15: he called five.

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Speaker 16: New seats that he was in the top of two.

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Speaker 15: He ain't entitled, so he's entitled anything, and what he

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Speaker 15: what we are saying is that in order for us

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Speaker 15: to try to level the playing field, Virginia's gonna play

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Speaker 15: a pivotal role in this whole process, because when we

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Speaker 15: go from a ten to one map, we would put

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Speaker 15: us in a good proture for us to make sure

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Speaker 15: that we pushed back on his power.

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Speaker 6: Graand so, and just to back into this for folks

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Speaker 6: at home, there was a very important election on Tuesday

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Speaker 6: in Virginia where there was a ballot initiative asking voters

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Speaker 6: to change the a mid term change to the map

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Speaker 6: the congressional and state legislative map. The state's redistrict and

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Speaker 6: committee drew a map that gives Democrats a ten to

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Speaker 6: one majority and favorability for them, which the voters approved.

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Speaker 6: And so to Bakari's point, this state senator is now

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Speaker 6: certainly one of my favorites. But I want to make

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Speaker 6: sure you all understand the redistricting battle began mid term

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Speaker 6: because of Donald Trump and his acolytes, and so Virginia said,

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Speaker 6: you started it, we will she said, we'll f and

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Speaker 6: finish it before. So right now, this what this helps

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Speaker 6: the ten to one, actually ten to one now with

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Speaker 6: California Utah and Virginia in play. Republicans changed the maps

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Speaker 6: in Texas, Missouri, North Carolina, and Ohio, And right now

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Speaker 6: there's a plus three being considered in Florida.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this. G eighty two good.

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Speaker 1: She was born in nineteen forty four and she's been

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Speaker 1: in office since nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: Eight years old, so I know. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversations about age and politics and our elected officials

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Speaker 1: force retirement. Yeah, but I'll take Louise Lucas over half.

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Speaker 5: We'll take Louise over ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 1: Can she beat it? Can she lead the House?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 4: But this is why I think we have forced retirement

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Speaker 4: by the voters. Oh yeah, her constituents will decide when

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Speaker 4: they are She got the.

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Speaker 1: Smartest constituents in America because they just send her back.

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Speaker 1: They know what they're doing and listen, and she's done

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Speaker 1: a great deal of good work. I know, we have

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Speaker 1: one of our brothers who is going to join us.

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Speaker 4: Your favorite coming elected official one day, one day, we're

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Speaker 4: putting it in there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't run a few times, I know.

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Speaker 3: But your favorite coming is still coming.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 6: The good thing about Gary too, that I think is

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Speaker 6: so important is he doesn't just run for office. He

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Speaker 6: also engages in civic engagement and instructing our people on

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Speaker 6: their power. And so one of my favorite things he

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Speaker 6: does is every election he tells people what voter turnout

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Speaker 6: is looking like, what it is like in the black community,

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Speaker 6: and he'll be like righteously angry about us showing up

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Speaker 6: for ourselves. And so in a place like Louisiana, where

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Speaker 6: both of my parents are from, I think it's so

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Speaker 6: important to understand our power, even when it's been regularly

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Speaker 6: stripped from you.

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Speaker 5: Butkari brought that up earlier with that that clip, so

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Speaker 5: is sure I will.

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Speaker 1: Want to saying no, we want to and we want

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Speaker 1: to bring Gary Chambers on. Gary is a friend of

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Speaker 1: the show. Gary has been around for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and Gary has apparently the humility of a curry sellers.

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Speaker 4: Cause yeah, definitely himself right over himself, right, ask.

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Speaker 5: A question about the picture might have a special frame.

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Speaker 1: It's full full frame, right.

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Speaker 4: I hate somebody gave me Unfortunately, somebody gave me with

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Speaker 4: those after I can't pay Forgevernor and my mama put

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Speaker 4: it up in my house.

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Speaker 3: I think that is under the.

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Speaker 5: Bed to see some of these pictures that they've drawn

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Speaker 5: to me, and I'm like, who is this actually?

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Speaker 17: Gary, tell us about the picture teacher the school teacher

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Speaker 17: painted that for me.

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Speaker 2: I love that from Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 17: I was like, it's wood, it's like on a wood,

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Speaker 17: it's all wood, and so uh and in trinded me

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Speaker 17: like two hundred of them in like God that I

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Speaker 17: can put his yard signs for people.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's too beautiful not to have out. Really. I do

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Speaker 2: feel some type of way sometimes about it being there,

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Speaker 2: but it's.

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Speaker 5: Too especially when these two have something to say about I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, we're gonna move it to near the front door.

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Speaker 1: I know. I like the fact that it's squarely in

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Speaker 1: the frame.

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Speaker 2: And all these all these reconstructed legislators too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got yourself right up there with them. So, Gary,

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Speaker 1: before we before we get it to the topic of

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Speaker 1: the show, because we want to we want to go

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Speaker 1: to s report pretty quickly. I did want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about the Louisiana State House bill that advanced

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Speaker 1: that would force unhoused people to choose between jail and

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Speaker 1: or or treatment program or rehab and if they can't

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Speaker 1: pay for it, what's what what is going on down

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Speaker 1: in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: We have probably the most.

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Speaker 17: Insensitive, in iar moral leadership in the country here in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Landry is a man about gimmicks and props.

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Speaker 17: He's trying to figure out how does he get his

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Speaker 17: way to be considered uh valuable as a presidential candidate

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Speaker 17: for twenty twenty eight. And he does whatever he feels

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Speaker 17: moves people to see him as the biggest conservative warrior

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Speaker 17: in America. And he's got a legislature that he's whipped

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Speaker 17: into submission to the degree that they just do.

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is that the government wants. And so.

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Speaker 17: These very inhumane people, these people don't care anything about

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Speaker 17: the citizens of this state. They're bringing in billions of

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Speaker 17: dollars in AI facilities. They're not taxing these people at

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Speaker 17: the degree that they should so that you could provide

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Speaker 17: housing for those that are unhoused, so that you can

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Speaker 17: provide a livable ways for people so that they don't

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Speaker 17: end up unhoused. Job creation and diversifying our economy is

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Speaker 17: not a priority to these people, and that's how you

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Speaker 17: end up with more people ended up unhoused on the

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Speaker 17: streets because we're not focused on the things that actually

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Speaker 17: create opportunities for people.

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Speaker 2: We're just finding more ways to incarcerate people.

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Speaker 17: And we were already the most incarcerated place in the

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Speaker 17: going and so Jeff is now added Trump's detainees through

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Speaker 17: ice and now he's trying to take the people off

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Speaker 17: the streets and put them basically in concentration camps.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know anything that he can say no to

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Speaker 2: as far as incarcerating people.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Shreveport, Louisiana.

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Speaker 16: Nobody knows.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that moved me this week and

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Speaker 1: moved a lot of us was one of our elected

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Speaker 1: officials in Shreveport, Taylor. Yeah, Taba. That was yeah, who

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Speaker 1: actually told us with all her heart and all her

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Speaker 1: chest about the pain that that community is going through

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Speaker 1: in regards to a lot of the violence that we're

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Speaker 1: seeing in our households and homes. Counselwoman Tabatha Taylor. She

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Speaker 1: talked about the fact that there were young people from

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Speaker 1: ages one to eight I believe, I don't know the

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Speaker 1: exact ages, but it was eight of them who were murdered.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to that. I don't know.

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Speaker 18: What people think in the crevices of their mind.

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Speaker 19: To want to harm another human being, let alone that

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Speaker 19: of children who have their whole life ahead of them.

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Speaker 19: From what I've learned about this incident is that it's

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Speaker 19: domestic in nature.

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Speaker 18: That makes it even more horrific. For all the fighting

741
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Speaker 18: that we do as it relates to this. And maybe

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Speaker 18: you can stand strong with this, but I can't without

743
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Speaker 18: shedding tears of traumatic pain. I pain, and I grieve

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Speaker 18: for this family. I grieve for the lives that are lost.

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Speaker 19: And I'm asking you to please utilize every resource that

746
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Speaker 19: the sheriff has brought forth. Now when you know that

747
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Speaker 19: these situations occur, we cannot be and make this a joke.

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Speaker 18: This is not a freaking joke. This is real and

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Speaker 18: this is the result when someone snaps.

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Speaker 19: So I'm gonna ask the community, along with prayer, with

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Speaker 19: every mental health consultant, counselor that is out here, This

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Speaker 19: family and.

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Speaker 5: This community needs you.

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Speaker 19: I need you, because how do we get through this,

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Speaker 19: how do we get to the next level?

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Speaker 16: It is real and this is raw, and these are the.

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Speaker 19: Tragedies when there are domestic violence or domestic disturbances in

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Speaker 19: our community.

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Speaker 1: The names are Jala Elkins three, Shyla Elkins five, Caleb

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Speaker 1: Pew six, Leila Pew seven, On Pew ten, Soriah Snow eleven,

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Speaker 1: Carrot Darian, thank you, Kadarian Snow six, Braylin Snow five.

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Speaker 1: The person responsible for the shooting, we won't say his

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Speaker 1: name and the MHM relationships. Oh yeah, seven father their father, no.

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Speaker 5: No, seven of them. He was the father of seven

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Speaker 5: of the kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I just wanted to make sure that people

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Speaker 1: listening and watching know that we don't uplift We're not

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Speaker 1: uplifting him in this moment. I wanted to give that

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Speaker 1: space for the for us to be able to say

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Speaker 1: their names and let them them rest in power. Last

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Speaker 1: night we had a conversation, and I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: able to make space for us to have a conversation

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Speaker 1: about accountability for men who respond such as this with

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Speaker 1: deplorable acts. We we talked about justin Fairfax, We talked

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Speaker 1: about Shreveport, we talked about down in Florida, the Miami

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Speaker 1: is Miami Acount may vice mayor who lost her life.

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Speaker 1: And it's not not not butt because I think button

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Speaker 1: negates everything before it. But and I wanted to create

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Speaker 1: a space where we could talk about black men who

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Speaker 1: were yelling out and having significant mental health issues and

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Speaker 1: wondering if we could have those conversations kind of at

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Speaker 1: the same time with the level of nuance and layers

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Speaker 1: that I think it requires. There was a young woman

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Speaker 1: who came up to us last night isis while we

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Speaker 1: were having this discussion at the end of our discussion,

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Speaker 1: and she wanted us to make sure that we centered

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Speaker 1: something else. So we had her sending a question, isis question?

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Speaker 1: And then I want to I want to kind of

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Speaker 1: lay it out and then let's have.

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Speaker 5: Us talk hanted of Bland.

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Speaker 20: I'm isis. I'm from Detroit living in Georgia. Just attended

792
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Speaker 20: the live show That's Why I'm in my Car. Tonight's

793
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Speaker 20: discussion had some insight, but it was somewhat disappointing to

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Speaker 20: see that in a time where black women are not

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Speaker 20: surviving their relationships with black men, we are censoring black

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Speaker 20: men's metal Black men's men to help is absolutely important. However, again,

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Speaker 20: black women are not surviving their relationships with black men. Okay,

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Speaker 20: so when a woman is pregnant is one of the

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Speaker 20: most dangerous times in her life because she's likely to

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Speaker 20: be murdered by the man who impregnated her. And when

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Speaker 20: women are trying to leave relationships with men is another

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Speaker 20: incredibly risky, dangerous time in their lives because she's likely

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Speaker 20: to be.

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Speaker 21: Assaulted, stuctor, murdered by men.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: We have to discuss that. That has to be the

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Speaker 2: center of the conversation.

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Speaker 21: That while we all need to make things emotionally safe

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Speaker 21: for each other, Black men need to make safe spaces

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Speaker 21: for black.

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Speaker 18: Men and show emotions.

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Speaker 21: Black women need to make safe spaces for black women

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Speaker 21: and show emotions. We all non binary people need to

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Speaker 21: make safe spaces for each other. We have to make

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Speaker 21: sure black women can survive relationships with black men. We

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Speaker 21: haven't discussed intimate partner. We haven't discussed how men feel

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Speaker 21: ownership over the wounds in our time a woman, and

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Speaker 21: that is missing from this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: She did come up last night, and I think if

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Speaker 4: it was Tiffany or you or Lolo had the had

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Speaker 4: the thought of mine immediate yeah, to say, hey, can

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Speaker 4: you please record that? Can we put that in a

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Speaker 4: question in a comment, because you know, we many of

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Speaker 4: us have been triggered kind of differently by a lot

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Speaker 4: of these defense you know, these events of late horrific events.

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Speaker 3: I was sharing last night with car how.

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Speaker 4: Heartbroken, despite how I knew Justin and and the ways

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Speaker 4: in which we worked together, I was most angry about

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Speaker 4: him robbing the children not only of his presence, but

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Speaker 4: of their mother's presence.

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Speaker 1: And a scar a.

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Speaker 3: How do you say a trauma? A wound that will

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Speaker 3: never heal over their life.

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Speaker 4: And it will likely be one that will pass be

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Speaker 4: passed on to their children and their children's children, and

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Speaker 4: so on and so forth. So that cycle. And that's

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Speaker 4: not just the only example, it's in so many places.

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Speaker 4: But the way this conversation has kind of taken off,

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Speaker 4: as I understand it, over social media in a lot

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Speaker 4: of real ways, was really about the failure to name

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Speaker 4: a lot of the women who have been victimized by

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Speaker 4: their relationship and the men and their relationship who have

844
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Speaker 4: committed these murders.

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Speaker 3: And I think we didn't.

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Speaker 4: We failed at not being able to I think balance

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Speaker 4: a fullsome conversation that would have included all the angles.

848
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Speaker 4: It's not to say our angle the way it doesn't

849
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Speaker 4: need attention. It does, but there were a lot of

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Speaker 4: angles there that were miss And I just appreciate Hair

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Speaker 4: holding all of us accountable to it.

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Speaker 6: I really am hoping Gary, that we can hear from

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Speaker 6: you and your story. Research that says Black women are

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Speaker 6: six times more likely to be killed than white women

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Speaker 6: an intimate partner violence. Forty five percent of Black women

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00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: experience stalking, physical and sexual violence in their lifetimes, and

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Speaker 6: an estimated fifty one percent of Black female adult homicides

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Speaker 6: are related to intimate partner violence. That's according to the

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Speaker 6: National Coalition against Domestic Violence. Garry, this is you know,

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Speaker 6: an area that you know all too well, and I

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Speaker 6: just really thought it was important seeing some of the

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Speaker 6: things that you mentioned and shared spaces that were in

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Speaker 6: I would love for you to share to this set

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Speaker 6: that you feel comfortable your own experience with this.

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Speaker 17: So first, thank you all for having the conversation I

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Speaker 17: think is necessary. And two black men accountability is not

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Speaker 17: an attack. I think that that's the beginning of the

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Speaker 17: conversation for me. When the twenty twenty four election happened

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Speaker 17: and people were dumping on black men for a host

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Speaker 17: of reason, I was one of the first people to

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Speaker 17: illuminate over eighty percent of black men did what we

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00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 17: were supposed to do in that election. So when I

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Speaker 17: come to these conversations and I make certain critiques of

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Speaker 17: us as brothers. I am not making those critiques from

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Speaker 17: a place where I'm not with you, where I don't

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Speaker 17: understand you, where I don't hear you. But in the

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Speaker 17: time where our sisters, our mothers, our children are being

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Speaker 17: murdered by black men, we need to say something different

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Speaker 17: than what we've been saying. We need to pause in

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Speaker 17: the same ways that we have demanded that America pause

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Speaker 17: and here when we have been harmed, when what we

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Speaker 17: produce tells us that they don't feel safe, because every

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00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 17: black woman, every black boy, is produced by a black man. First,

884
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 17: we are the seed bearers. That is your seed in

885
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 17: the earth. And every woman that is existing in this

886
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 17: work is somebody's baby. And too many people are talking

887
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 17: about these men who have done horrible things to these

888
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 17: women and these children, and we haven't even sentered somebody's baby.

889
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 17: We haven't even taken the time to see Serena Fairfax

890
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 17: as somebody's baby, because we were talking about all we

891
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 17: lost in a man who decided to take somebody's baby.

892
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 17: And I think that that should cause every man to

893
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 17: have some level of pause and reflection about why we

894
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 17: do that and about why we have to center ourselves

895
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 17: in our emotions in every conversation. I'm not saying that

896
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 17: we're not getting over. I'm not saying that we're not

897
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 17: in a bad situation. I'm saying that the answer to

898
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 17: got that we choose is violence makes us a part

899
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 17: of the crash our cartel because we lack emotional intelligence.

900
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 17: I'm a product of family where my mother committed suicide

901
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 17: when I was two months old, so I understand fully

902
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 17: what it's like to grow up without a parent because

903
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 17: of the complexities of marriage.

904
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: My father was cheating on my mother.

905
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 17: My mother had had three children back to back for

906
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 17: my dad, and then she walks in one day and

907
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 17: tells my dad, you love them children, don't you. He says, yes,

908
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 17: I'm gonna leave you with him, goes in the room

909
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 17: and shoots herself. There was no conversation about postpartum depression.

910
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 17: What about that black woman? What about that black woman

911
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 17: who had had three children and no matter what she

912
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 17: was going through within herself, how did she express that

913
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 17: to her community? How could she express that to her

914
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 17: family and friends? How are black women today carrying the

915
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 17: burden of having all them children? The man in Shreveport

916
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 17: had seven children, How did those women carry the burden

917
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 17: of carrying those children, caring for those children, seven of them,

918
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 17: two different household How do you maintain stability in that

919
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 17: all of those women maintain instability?

920
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: And every day they are crying out for us to

921
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: just stand there up and be men. I know it's hard.

922
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 17: It is I've been through a divorce, I've attempted suicide twice.

923
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: I know what it feels like to say to hell

924
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: with all of this. I know what that feels like.

925
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: But at no point have I ever decided to put

926
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: my hands on a woman.

927
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 17: I lose my empathy for men the minute that you

928
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 17: decide to be violent against another human, I lose my

929
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 17: empathy for what you're going through at that point. And

930
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 17: that is what our sisters are saying to us right now,

931
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 17: that they begin to lose that empathy that they automatically

932
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 17: feel for us the minute that we become violent against them,

933
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 17: and we should stop right at that moment, say nothing else,

934
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 17: but we're sorry.

935
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: Because we didn't hear them.

936
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 17: And the same way that we can understand that when

937
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 17: a white man kills a black man unarmed, that we

938
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 17: don't want to hear all of the justifications and all

939
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 17: of the excuses. We should understand that women don't want

940
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 17: to hear all that pontificating.

941
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: We do it.

942
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 17: Because it should never be an option for us to

943
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 17: be violent against each other in the ways that it is.

944
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 17: We have made violence acceptable within our culture that violence

945
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 17: breathes out in a host of ways.

946
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: And black men.

947
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 17: If the data says that fifty to fifty five percent

948
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 17: of the Black women in America who are murdered are

949
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 17: murdered by someone that they are in a relationship with,

950
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 17: and the majority of black women are in relationship with

951
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 17: black men, we could reduce the homicides of black women

952
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 17: in this country simply by getting a grip on ourselves

953
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 17: as black men.

954
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: We could The worst thing I could do in the

955
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: world is take another black life. Og said that to me.

956
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: He said that when he leaves his.

957
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 17: House every day, he takes his pistol with him because

958
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 17: he wants to protect himself. But he thinks to him

959
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 17: in his mind that the worst thing he could do

960
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 17: in the world is to take the life of another

961
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 17: black man.

962
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: How many do we? How many of us actually feel

963
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: that way?

964
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: And do we?

965
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 17: We've normalized this violent culture to the degree that when

966
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 17: somebody kills somebody and we know that they're a killer,

967
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 17: we still at their time search.

968
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: How does that impact the family. We don't respect life enough.

969
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 17: And if you don't respect life outside your house, how

970
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 17: are you gonna respect the lives in your house?

971
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: How do we break this cycle? I think me God

972
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: gat I hear you, but that you are more profound

973
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: than you know. I think. And that's why one of

974
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 1: the reasons you're here at this particular time. God doesn't

975
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: really make those type of mistake. He puts you here

976
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: in our space to answer the question that Ice has answered.

977
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: And I think that black men listening to this who

978
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: disagree with you probably aren't listening to this show. I

979
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: think most men who are listening to this show would

980
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: simply say, hey man, But the next question that we

981
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: have is like, how do we You said something that

982
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: said black men need to get a grip, and then

983
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: you talked about the cycle, and so I want to

984
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: do two things. I want to make sure that we

985
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: are I'm a black husband, black parent, But how do

986
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: we break that cycle?

987
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 2: I was having a conversation with a very close friend

988
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: of mine yesterday, brother, and it turned into an argument

989
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: that and we made up in the.

990
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: End me, and you have had those before too, so

991
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: I understand.

992
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 17: We have that is I think a part of the

993
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 17: give and take iron sharp and gyron right. But in

994
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 17: the group text, we going back and forth about some

995
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 17: of the conversations and things that happened. I didn't agree

996
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 17: with any of his responses. Uh, And he called me

997
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 17: a couple of times. I didn't ask his call when

998
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 17: he called me the first two times because I feel

999
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 17: like I'm charged up, this might go left. I don't

1000
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 17: want to talk to you yet. But he wanted to talk,

1001
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 17: so he called the last time and I was hiding

1002
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 17: heavy and I told him, I said, you know, I'm

1003
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 17: gonna stoping with you, like like we're gonna stop with me,

1004
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 17: and you're gonna stop being We're gonna stop being cool

1005
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 17: if you can't take a minute to reflect on where

1006
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 17: you at. Dog Like as men were not missing the

1007
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 17: women every day, let's keep it a bean. Most brothers

1008
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 17: are not taking their advice from from women.

1009
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: If we were, we would be much further along in

1010
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: this process.

1011
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 17: Okay, So if you if we have to check each other,

1012
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 17: we got to get in conversation with each other and

1013
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 17: check each other.

1014
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff that we left side. When you

1015
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: out with your homeboy and y'all having a couple of drinks.

1016
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 17: And he cat calling at this woman in a way

1017
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 17: where where she is being diminished or disrespected. Check your

1018
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 17: homeboy right there, Those little things turn into other things

1019
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 17: because you're disrespecting this black woman and you don't know her,

1020
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 17: you wanner, and you're objectifying it from the minute that

1021
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 17: you see her. And if you objectify it from the

1022
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 17: minute that you see her, you're gonna carry that.

1023
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: Conduct on in other ways.

1024
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 17: And we as black men, got to confront that we

1025
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 17: have made too many things acceptable and normal that are disrespectful.

1026
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 17: It's disrespectful. We have made too many and we allow it.

1027
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 17: He just planned out that shit not all right. I

1028
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 17: don't have a better way to say it right now,

1029
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 17: when we got dead babies at the hands of black men.

1030
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 17: And if that bothers you when we say that, ask yourself,

1031
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 17: why don't ask me to change the conversation to something else.

1032
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 17: Ask yourself, why are you struggling with that conversation? Why

1033
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 17: as a man, can we not center somebody other than you?

1034
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 17: Right now, I was listening to a podcast. I'm not

1035
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 17: gonna name it because I want to get into a

1036
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 17: controversy of the podcast that.

1037
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: In the podcast.

1038
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 17: In the podcast conversation, they were talking about, uh, the

1039
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 17: word feminism, whether you could say feminism or not, that

1040
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 17: that they needed another word for men who want to

1041
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 17: be supportive of feminism.

1042
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 2: We needed another word to be supportive of women. That

1043
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: is that right there?

1044
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 17: That kind of thinking is why do why does there

1045
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 17: need to be another word for us to feel man

1046
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 17: enough to support women? Why can't you be a feminist

1047
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 17: as a brother? Why does that make you feel less masculine?

1048
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: Why does that make you?

1049
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 17: And ask yourself those questions and if you can't answer

1050
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 17: those questions, you need therapy.

1051
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Brother. My last question is, oh, go ahead, No, I

1052
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about raising young boys because you know,

1053
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: and I'm just asking questions right now. People are probably

1054
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: going to be in the comment about this, that or

1055
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: the third. So I'm just literally asking from a place

1056
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: of love and learning here. But when we're raising young

1057
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: boys like stokely, what is the what's the message that

1058
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we don't pass like

1059
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: I think that we raised children sometimes and we take

1060
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: for granted the things that we should be articulating to them,

1061
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: that we may not.

1062
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 17: So I don't have a son. I have a daughter, Zoe,

1063
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 17: but I have a nephew, cousin, nephew, you know how

1064
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 17: we are my cousin. But he's like my nephew.

1065
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: Hebout to be a son. You're gonna raise them and

1066
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: put him through college and all them things.

1067
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 17: He's across the street from me at my parents' house,

1068
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 17: and he's ten, and little Brett is a smart little boy,

1069
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 17: active little kid. He likes to play, but he's always

1070
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 17: with my daughter Zoe. They're always together. See's sixteen, he's ten.

1071
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 17: I teach Brett now how to play with young girls

1072
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 17: when he's out in the yard, just doing active things

1073
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 17: with them. You can't rough house with a young lady.

1074
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 17: You never hit a girl when you get mad. He's

1075
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 17: never had those aggressions. But we talk about these things

1076
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 17: before you go out to play, because as adults, we

1077
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 17: understand what what you're going to face when you go

1078
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 17: out in the world.

1079
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: I think we don't prepare our kids for enough. We say,

1080
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: are they kids?

1081
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 17: We let them come back in, and we don't take

1082
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 17: the time to talk to young men about their emotions.

1083
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 17: Brett came to me one morning and he said he

1084
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 17: didn't want to go to school today. I said, why

1085
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 17: do you want to go to school today? He said,

1086
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 17: I'm going through this or this and the third. And

1087
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 17: I said, well, today, you got to understand that this

1088
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 17: is your job. That your job is to go to school,

1089
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 17: bring back good grades to us, and as a result,

1090
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 17: you're going to get these things later in life. We

1091
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 17: have to take the time with young men to give

1092
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 17: them the space to express themselves to us, but then

1093
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 17: teach them.

1094
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: How to have the intelligence to move on to do

1095
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: the next thing right.

1096
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 17: And too often we don't know how to process to

1097
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 17: the next thing, and we crash out or we give up.

1098
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 17: And I think that we are making excuses for people

1099
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 17: in multiple situations as adults that are faced with an

1100
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 17: obstacle that they don't know how to get to the

1101
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 17: other side of, so they just diminish everything in their face. Right,

1102
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 17: And that's what's happening right now because we aren't taking

1103
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 17: the time with our young men to teach them how

1104
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 17: to regulate themselves to the next decision, to the next day.

1105
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 17: My grandmother taught me after my first attempted suicide. She

1106
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 17: said to me, baby, keep going to sleep and getting

1107
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 17: up in the morning. It gets better.

1108
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1109
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 17: It took me until I was in my thirties to

1110
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 17: really understand what grandmother was saying when she said, it

1111
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 17: does get better. Doesn't mean that that day is gonna

1112
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 17: be good, Okay, doesn't mean that the next day is

1113
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 17: gonna be a good day.

1114
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: It means it's gonna be a better day.

1115
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 17: And I think that too many brothers are robbing themselves

1116
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 17: of the ability to get to a better day.

1117
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: And not only.

1118
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 17: Themselves, but you're robbing the entirety of families to get

1119
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 17: to a better day. It's one thing for you to

1120
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 17: make a decision for yourself, but then you make a

1121
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 17: decison for everybody else involved. That is just we got

1122
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 17: to wrestle with that, man.

1123
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 6: I Gary, I really appreciate what you're saying, especially around

1124
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 6: the piece around we don't take enough time to talk

1125
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 6: to young men about their emotions, and so in this

1126
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 6: moment in particular, I was frustrated most of last week

1127
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 6: because what I was and I'm just now being able

1128
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 6: to put words to it. After you said that, I

1129
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 6: was feeling like black women were holding the responsibility that

1130
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 6: all of us black folks carried. After George Floyd was

1131
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 6: murdered and people had to watch it for nine minutes

1132
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 6: and thirty seconds on TV. White people's response to that

1133
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 6: was for black people to teach me, Give me a

1134
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 6: book I can read, give me advice, give me somebody

1135
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 6: I can hire, give me a group I can fund,

1136
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 6: give me right. And so it felt last week like

1137
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 6: black women had to hold the responsibility of black men's

1138
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: mental health. We have a good friend who said, I

1139
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 6: don't like just the label of a mental health issue

1140
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 6: because I I have mental health issues and I would

1141
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 6: never right.

1142
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 5: So there's that bucket.

1143
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 6: But there's also this thing where I feel like, just

1144
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 6: like we were telling the white folks, y'all need to

1145
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 6: talk to yourselves. I really want that conversation to be

1146
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 6: with black men, and I would love for any of

1147
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: you all the way in here. But I just feel

1148
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 6: like we talk all the time. We can urge partners

1149
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 6: to go to therapy. We can say we're doing the

1150
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 6: work ourselves. We have a group chat where we're venting

1151
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 6: and vulnerable to our girls. And more often than not,

1152
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 6: I hear y'all have in group chats, but they're about

1153
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 6: sports and y'all arguing about if Lebron is still the gold,

1154
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 6: but it's not necessarily about mental health.

1155
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 5: I know that's not the exception, but generally it's the rule.

1156
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 6: Y'all don't have a lot of vulnerable spaces, which is

1157
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 6: why you would want to carve out space for Brent

1158
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 6: to be able to talk about his emotions, because everybody

1159
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 6: doesn't have that growing up. In fact, most young men

1160
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 6: are told, especially black boys, stop crying, you know, and

1161
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 6: nobody ever even gets a sense to like to really

1162
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 6: release the tears. Bakari and Andrew fortunately do not mind

1163
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 6: shedding a tear, but I do think that it's important

1164
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 6: for other people to understand that. And I don't think

1165
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 6: it's the role of black women. I'd love to hear

1166
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 6: what y'all think about that.

1167
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 17: You know, my first conversation with you, Angela. You might

1168
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 17: not remember this, but when you can't speak a Southern

1169
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 17: and when I said, you know, you you talking about

1170
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 17: black women, that you don't say nothing about the black men,

1171
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 17: and you said, well, y'all should say something about the

1172
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 17: black men.

1173
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: You say it unless I'm consistent.

1174
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 17: And when she said this, this is like, this is

1175
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 17: like ten years ago, okay, And in that conversation, I

1176
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 17: reflected on the other side of I said, she's right,

1177
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 17: She's right.

1178
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: You know, we we we as men, have to take

1179
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: the time.

1180
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 17: And that's why I've been kind of doggish with some

1181
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 17: of my friends, because you know, when we're confronted with this,

1182
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 17: right now, this is the time.

1183
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: Right now. Okay, we didn't get it right before, brothers

1184
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: get it right now.

1185
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 17: The question that needs to be asked is why nobody

1186
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 17: had a job for the man that crashed out.

1187
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of us are just sitting

1188
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: in this moment and not wanting to deal with that

1189
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: accountability that he probably led justin and surrender.

1190
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 17: We failed justin, and then as a failure, as a

1191
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 17: failing to justine, he ends up where he does right,

1192
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 17: and nothing about, nothing about his decisions are justifiable excusable

1193
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 17: in any way, shape or form. Because no matter what

1194
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 17: you are going through, it is never acceptable to choose

1195
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 17: violence against someone else. And that has to be the

1196
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 17: framing of everything that we do in this that violence

1197
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 17: against anyone else is unacceptable.

1198
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: It is unacceptable for us to harm a woman. It

1199
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: is unacceptable for a woman to harm us.

1200
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 17: If my daddy told me, if y'all got to be

1201
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 17: putting y'all hands on each other.

1202
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: Y'all need to get the hell away from each other.

1203
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1204
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 17: I came into this at eighteen when I got into

1205
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 17: the dating conversation with my father telling me, if you

1206
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 17: have to be putting your hands on each other, you

1207
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 17: need to get the hell away from each other. There

1208
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 17: are people that I've been in a relationship with that

1209
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 17: will tell you Gary might have done this or Gary

1210
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 17: did that. They will never tell you I put my

1211
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 17: hands on them to harm them. That has not been

1212
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 17: acceptable in my family. When a man in my family

1213
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 17: did hit women, we shine that Negro, you can't come

1214
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 17: around here.

1215
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: We gonna break matter of fact, tell her and the

1216
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: kids to come over here. Negro, you can't come. That

1217
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: needs to be the position. Thanksgiving dinner, you got that

1218
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: abuser sitting at the table.

1219
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: What do we do with the pre crash out niggas

1220
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: like you? You can see it. We all so we

1221
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: all have You know, we I had conversations with justin

1222
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: this year, right, which is what's sitting on my heart.

1223
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: We've all had those conversations. We have those people in

1224
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: our lives now and just for the purposes of this conversation,

1225
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: those niggas that we know are spiraling downward those kind

1226
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: of pre crash out like, what do we what do

1227
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: we do with them? You know, the people who have

1228
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: lost somebody who don't have a job, who's girl just

1229
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean you you can see it. It's not anything

1230
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: we don't see, but we treat it like a car crash.

1231
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: We just ride by and then we tell people what

1232
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: we just saw. How do we with our with our

1233
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: homeboys in particular, what are some of the And I'm

1234
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: treating you like my damn psychologists right now. I'm just

1235
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: throwing out questions to help better my life. So just

1236
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: forgive me for that. But what do we do with

1237
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: those pre crash outs?

1238
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: I seek one. I don't know how to say this.

1239
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 17: My mind keeps going to the same thought that there's

1240
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 17: some situations where we need to tell that woman to

1241
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 17: protect ourselves and get out.

1242
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: That's true.

1243
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 18: I am.

1244
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: I am deeply concerned about the safety of our women.

1245
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: And if we've.

1246
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 17: Recognized that a brother is at that point, we need

1247
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 17: to talk to that sister and help that sister make

1248
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 17: sure that she is safe.

1249
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: That is the position that I think we need to

1250
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 2: take first.

1251
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 17: Then we need to do everything within our power to

1252
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 17: get that brother to resource and then the help that

1253
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 17: he can get. I struggle when I heard some of

1254
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 17: the conversations about the organizations and the networks that Justin

1255
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 17: was in that those organizations and networks had not provided

1256
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 17: a contract, had not provided an opportunity to Everything doesn't.

1257
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: Have to be public.

1258
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 17: But I think that what we do as black people

1259
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 17: is the minute you got a dot of a stain

1260
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 17: on you, we start acting.

1261
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: Like you untouchable, and you treat them just as much

1262
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: of a pariah as white people do. Like people can't.

1263
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: Like people can't.

1264
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: Redeem himself from their worst day, he can't redeem himself

1265
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 2: from this.

1266
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 17: Now, nobody gives a damn he was a lieutenant governor

1267
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 17: of Virginia anymore. Nobody will ever talk about any good

1268
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 17: thing he ever did, because this moment will outlive all

1269
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 17: of that.

1270
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 5: And by the way, Gary won't say it because he

1271
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 5: nicer than me.

1272
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 6: He's talking about the bulet because the bulet definitely has

1273
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 6: money and definitely has people in it that could have helped.

1274
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand how.

1275
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 17: Somebody and I understand people saying I don't want to

1276
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 17: be attached to certain controversies, but you don't have to

1277
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 17: be attached to a controversy to support or.

1278
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: Help a black person.

1279
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 17: And I think that we are spending too much time

1280
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 17: leaving people in the wilderness of the world and wondering

1281
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 17: how shit ends up where it ends up because we

1282
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 17: don't give a damn, because we don't act like community,

1283
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 17: because we don't love black people through their shit and

1284
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 17: some shit we can love you through.

1285
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: We cannot love you through murder. I can't. My empathy

1286
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: starts walking all the way out the door.

1287
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 17: When somebody takes another life, I want you to face

1288
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 17: some level of consequence at that point.

1289
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: If it is not a righteous murder.

1290
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 17: What I mean by righteous murder where somebody is being

1291
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 17: harmed and you then take the life of that person

1292
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 17: that's harming someone.

1293
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing that because you do not have to

1294
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: take another life.

1295
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 17: And I think that that is the very premise of

1296
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 17: the conversation we got to get to as men, because

1297
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 17: we've defined ourselves as mancho and defined ourselves as men by.

1298
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: How violent we can be.

1299
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 17: The truth of the matter is the greatest men I

1300
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 17: know have taken the time and loved me, have taken

1301
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 17: the time to hear me. My biological father was an

1302
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 17: alcoholic till I was ten years old. My uncle William

1303
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 17: became my father when I was eight and my daddy

1304
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 17: wasn't there and I was getting kicked out of school

1305
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 17: and I was a bad emotional kid. That man sat

1306
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 17: with me and he cried with me. Take the time

1307
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 17: to cry with another black man. Let him get it out.

1308
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: We spend so much time telling me and get over it.

1309
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna be all right.

1310
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 13: Dog.

1311
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: We sets our way out of it. We drug our

1312
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: way through it.

1313
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 17: We go from one woman to the next woman, abusing

1314
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 17: them sexually, and then we end up with the baggage

1315
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 17: that we can't handle. And then we take all of

1316
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 17: that out on the people around us. The Bible says,

1317
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 17: charity begins at home. At home, you smiling at everybody

1318
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 17: at the job, but you can't smile at them kids

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Speaker 17: in the house. You you can show up for that

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Speaker 17: white man and be as profession put the damn act

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Speaker 17: on for your family.

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Speaker 2: Charity begins at home. Do it until it until it

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Speaker 2: feels natural. I know some of the things because they

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Speaker 2: taught us as men not to feel that.

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Speaker 17: We don't always know how to process through. But let

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Speaker 17: yourself feel it. Let yourself feel the pain and then

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Speaker 17: let yourself get to the point where you realize the

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Speaker 17: pain subsides. And we as men have to have that

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Speaker 17: conversation with men, But we have to protect the women first.

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Speaker 17: Our first obligation is to protect these women. As a

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Speaker 17: father of a sixteen year old daughter, I don't want

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Speaker 17: nobody to harm my baby, and.

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Speaker 2: I want us to see every black woman like it's

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Speaker 2: our baby.

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Speaker 17: If you don't want nobody to do that to your child,

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Speaker 17: don't do that to nobody else's child.

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Speaker 2: Every black woman is somebody else's child.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Carrie.

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Speaker 17: We can do so much better, That's all I'm saying, Brothers,

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Speaker 17: and it's not nobody is against you to tell you

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Speaker 17: that we can do better.

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Speaker 2: And I know it is hard.

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Speaker 17: I know it feels like the world is against us.

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Speaker 17: But there are brothers who love you and will hold

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Speaker 17: you down. But you got to love yourself enough to live.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Gary Chambers.

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Speaker 2: Thank y'all.

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Speaker 16: Who cares about truth in the last morning, seen it.

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Speaker 1: Well, try to read this outra so we can get

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Speaker 1: out of y'all.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Carrie, thank y'all.

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Speaker 1: As always, we want to remind everyone to leave us

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Speaker 1: a review and subscribe to the native.

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Speaker 5: Lamppod have calls to action.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think we need one.

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Speaker 6: After that, I want to play mine. Okay, Yeah, this

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Speaker 6: has just been a heavy show. Uh, and I figured

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Speaker 6: it was going to feel heavy. It's necessary. But because

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Speaker 6: I believe Bacari might have won the challenge yesterday, I'm

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Speaker 6: not sure. Andrew with the with the with the live show,

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Speaker 6: there's a very special moment from more House and I

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Speaker 6: just in a time where we're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 6: black men in mugshots. I wanted to show some folks

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Speaker 6: who are winning as well.

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Speaker 5: So if we can roll that clip, Nick.

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Speaker 14: Hello everyone, we are black men and white coach at

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Speaker 14: moor House School of Medicine, and I want to introduce

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Speaker 14: you to the future of medicine.

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Speaker 2: Her.

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Speaker 5: My name is Tarren Ballet.

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Speaker 7: I'm a freshman biology major in the pre medical track

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Speaker 7: with a Public Health science minor from Baltimre, Maryland, and

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Speaker 7: I'm going to be a future cardiatric ser.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 16: My name is Jason Faulkner. I'm a senior biology major

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Speaker 16: with the minus sociology from Soul, North Carolina, and I

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Speaker 16: am a future pediatric n caciologist.

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Speaker 1: I was going on.

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Speaker 2: My name is Zahir Andia Man a senior biology major

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Speaker 2: from Brooklyn, New York, and I will be a future antasiologist.

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Speaker 2: My name is Lena Scott.

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Speaker 17: I am a junior Biology major, Public Health Public Policy

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Speaker 17: double minor from Dallas, Texas, and I will be a

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Speaker 17: future general surgeon.

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Speaker 1: My name is Andrew Pope.

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Speaker 21: I'm a sophomore biology major from over The, Alabama and

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Speaker 21: I'm a future chari thoracic surgeon.

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Speaker 4: My name is to Horn. I'm a junior biology major

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Speaker 4: from euast In, Texas, and I'm a future trauma surgeon.

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Speaker 1: My name is Christian Oldles. I am a junior Biology

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Speaker 1: and Psychology major neuroscience minor from fair Fair, Alabama, and

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Speaker 1: I am a future neurologist.

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Speaker 2: My name is Corey Bardies Junior.

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Speaker 8: I'm a sophomore Biology major Public health minor from Boston, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 8: and I'm a future physician scientist.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: My name is Amy day Dammy.

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Speaker 4: I'm a freshman biology major from Santana, Texas, and i

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Speaker 4: am a future demotologist.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: My name is Jason Rigs, Jr.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sophomore Biology major sociology minor from Edison, New Jersey,

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: and I am a future or the Peak Surgeon.

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Speaker 2: Hello, my name is a Lodger Lowis. I'm a sophomore

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Speaker 2: biology major from Columbia, South Carolina. Now I'm a future

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Speaker 2: physician scientist.

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Speaker 1: My name is Quindel Myrik. My name is Quindel Myrik,

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Speaker 1: sophomore Biology major, public health minor from Virginia in a

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Speaker 1: future orthopedi surgeon.

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Speaker 16: My name is Malcolm Jolly. I am a junior bology

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Speaker 16: major at the Premier Track from Sant Louis, Missouri, and

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Speaker 16: I will be a nacciologist.

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Speaker 2: I am m O tep Truett.

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Speaker 1: I'm a junior biology major in the Premit track attending

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Speaker 1: Morehouse College from Deurning, North Carolina, and I will be

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Speaker 1: a neurosurgeon.

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Speaker 8: I am a Kennan Dewoke.

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Speaker 4: I am a junior biology major from Macon, Georgia, and

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Speaker 4: I will be an orthopedia surgeon.

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Speaker 5: And my name is Justin sat Cloud.

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Speaker 4: I am a junior biology major from Las Vegas, Nevada,

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Speaker 4: and I will be a dermatologist.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to Warehouse College of Medicine. I just wanted

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Speaker 6: to play that, and I am going to dedicate that

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Speaker 6: to my nephews Davis and Jackson and stokely. Y'all have

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Speaker 6: some big shoes to feel, but I know you will

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Speaker 6: feel them well too. To you all in case you

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Speaker 6: all have closing words, I know this has been an

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Speaker 6: emotionally heavy show, so I wanted to end in with

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Speaker 6: a little light.

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Speaker 1: That was dope. Shout out to all those young brothers

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Speaker 1: who were doing God's work. I'm gonna close us out

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: because we need to take Mini pod, I think, or

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Speaker 1: get out of here before we leave the city of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: But as always, we want to remind people to leave

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Speaker 1: us a review and subscribe to Native Lampod. We're available

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Speaker 1: de Barasa.

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Speaker 5: But I pronounce that right, he did it perfect.

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Speaker 1: You didn't put the phonetically. He usually put it in

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Speaker 1: my script. He didn't today. We are Bacari Sellers and

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Speaker 1: Andrew and we are very, very very prayerful for Paparae

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Speaker 1: who gave his seed angela raie to us in the world.

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Speaker 1: They'll get well on paparaye and welcome home, y'all. There

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Speaker 1: are one hundred and ninety four days until mid term election.

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Speaker 16: Welcome home to the Natives.

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Speaker 22: Landing on the podcast face that's a for greatness. Sixty

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Speaker 22: minutes is so hit, not too long for the great shit,

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Speaker 22: high level combo politics in a way that you could

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Speaker 22: taste it then digest it. Politics touches you even if

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Speaker 22: you don't touch it. So get invested.

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Speaker 16: Across the t's and doctor I kill them.

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Speaker 22: Got them as sellers, stand on business of why you

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Speaker 22: could have been anywhere.

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Speaker 16: But you trust us. Native Lead Pod is the brand

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Speaker 16: that you can trust us.

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