1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Friday, the eighteenth of August in London. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Ero podcast. I'm Stephen Carroll. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Coming up today, China's state owned developers worn of major 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: losses as fears of contagion grow arm. The Chip Designer 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: lines up twenty eight banks for the biggest listing of 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: the year, and Goldman Sachs goes on a hiring spree 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: to plug regulatory gaps. Let's start with a roundup of 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: our top stories. China's state owned property developers are warning 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: of widespread losses, fueling concerns that the crisis in the 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: property sector is deepening. A Bloomberg analysis of corporate filings 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: found that almost half of the state owned enterprise builder's 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: warrant of preliminary losses in the first half of the 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: year are great at China Bonds reporter louretted Chen says 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: the data shows the increasingly systemic nature of China's housing slump. 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Of course, the first wave to fall is the private developers, 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: but then they will eventually spread to these state owned 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: developers in the prime of China's property sector. Really, these 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: state owned developers aren't the most profitable companies and now 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: I think they're just heard by a drop in valuations 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: and you have to see them cutting on their asset values. 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Loretta Chen says the lasses will reduce the ability of 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: these firms to take on unfinished projects left by defaulted 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: private sector firms. The growing gloomer and China's property sector 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: comes as the country's central bank delivered its strongest ever 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: pushback against a weaker yuan in a bid to target 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: currency bears. Now two years after its first defaulted China's 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: Evergrand Group filed for Chapter fifteen bankruptcy protection in New York. 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Charlie Pallett has the story, it's. 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: A move that protects its American assets from creditors while 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: it works on a restructuring deal elsewhere. The Chinese Homebuilders 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: Chapter fifteen petition references restructuring proceedings being carried out in 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: Hong Kong and the Cayman Islands. Its Scenery Journey unit 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: also filed for Chapter fifteen protection, along with affiliate Tianji Holdings. 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: International debt restructuring deals sometimes require a Chapter fifteen filing 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: in the course of finalizing a transaction. In New York, 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Charlie Pellette Bloomberg day Break Europe. 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Evergrand's three hundred billion dollars in liabilities mean the restructuring 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: is likely to have broad implications for China's financial system. 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: The company's initial default in December twenty twenty one helped 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: set off an initial wave of concerns around China's property 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: sector that has kept growing, where growing bond route has 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: led Bank of America strass Just to war investors that 43 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: five percent yields are likely to be the new normal. 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: That view's been echoed by Black Rock and Pimco, who 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: say the need for further rate hikes will likely push 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: long term yields even higher. Charlie Jemison, Bond's CIO at 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Jameson Cootz, says the moves are likely to have wider implications. 48 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: There is a cause and effect to this, and so 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: as yields rise and we go to refund treasuries, those 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: auctions will always clear, and if they have must clear 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: at high yields. It will draw capital from other markets, 52 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: and we're starting to see equity markets in the like 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: getting the wobbles a little bit under the pretense that 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: yields might remain elevated. 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Jemison's warning on stocks comes after last year's brutal 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: treasuries market saw the deepest losses since at least the 57 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: early nineteen seventies. That upward pressure is now being exacerbated 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: by increased US federal spending, creating a flood of new 59 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: debt sales to plug America's ever growing deficit. Silicon chip 60 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: designer ARM has lined up twenty eight banks to help 61 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: underwrite its initial public offering. The lead banks in ensuring 62 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: the deal include Barclay's, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. The 63 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: company will seek to raise eight to ten billion dollars 64 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: in what would be the biggest IPO of the year. 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: A fresh bout of US regulatory scrutiny is setting off 66 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: a hiring spree at Goldman Sachs. More from Bloomberg's Doug Krisner. 67 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: Where told Goldman is enlisting several hundred new staffers to 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 5: help address concerns from US banking regulators, although it's unclear 69 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 5: what deficiencies the firm is seeking to address. Last year, 70 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: Goldman's effort to build out a new consumer bank was 71 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 5: said to have set off questions from the FED, but 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 5: the plan has largely been abandoned. Some managers blame the 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: failure for inviting regulatory attention, but to be fair, regulators 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 5: routinely question large financial firms. Goldman executives privately described growing 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 5: pressure from the Fed over the past year in New York. 76 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm Doug Prisoner, Bloomberg day Break Europe. 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: Here in the UK, Racy Snax government says banks and 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: building societies could be fined for not protecting the public's 79 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: access to cash. The Financial Conduct Authority has new powers 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: to ensure banks maintain access to cash without fees. Under 81 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: the latest plans, people in businesses also need to be 82 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: within three miles of an ATM. Economic Secretary Secretary to 83 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the Treasury Andrew Griffith wants everyone to be able to 84 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: access cash easily, including those living in rural areas. 85 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 6: One of the ways that we set up these banking 86 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 6: hubs is that they only kick in after bank branches 87 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 6: have closed, so they're not they're not predating, they're not 88 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 6: causing the closure. But they are really good backstop for communities, 89 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 6: for local high streets. 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: That was the Economic Secretary to the Treasury, Andrew Griffith. 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: It's the latest example of the Conservative Party taking action 92 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: on an issue that resonates with its core voter base, 93 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: many many of whom are older and live in the countryside. 94 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: Well. 95 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Another story that caught my eye this morning Britain's gambling 96 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: more during wet weather last month. This according to a 97 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: note from Deutsche Bank analyst Simon Davies, who says that 98 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: during last month's near record rainfall in the UK, spending 99 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: on gambling rows by six point four percent. This followed 100 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: a six point six percent year on year decline in 101 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: jude when and dry weather encouraged money towards going out 102 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: towards outdoor leisure instead. Simon Davies, citing data from Deutsche 103 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Bank's DBDIG unit which the lender uses, says uses alternative 104 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: statistics and artificial intelligence to provide investments solutions. So, though 105 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: you have of the wet weather driving people, perhaps back 106 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: to the bingo holes as well. Let's go back to 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: the latest on the story around China, though, and efforts 108 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: by Chinese policymakers to cam market fears about the economy, 109 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: People's Bank of China setting its most forceful fixing guidance 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: ever for the U one. This as Boomberg has tallied 111 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: a growing list of state owned property developers warning of 112 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: widespread losses. Boomberg opinion columnist Daniel Mass joins us now 113 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: for more. Daniel, great to have you with us. Let's 114 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: start with the PBOC action that we've seen to shore 115 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: up do U want? This is the latest in a 116 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: series of steps taken by the Central Bank this week. 117 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: How should we interpret these moves when looked at as 118 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: a whole. 119 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 7: I'm not sure that pboc's position on the yuan has 120 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 7: changed significantly since we spoke a couple of days ago. 121 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 7: What you're referring to is the daily fix, the range 122 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 7: at which the PBOC prefers to see the yuan fluctuate. 123 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 7: Let's remember this is not a free flowing currency like 124 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 7: the euro, or the dollar, or the yen or the 125 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 7: British pound. PBOC has given the yuan scope to fluctuate. 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 7: But hey, big brothers always there. Authorities are comfortable with 127 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 7: the yuan weakening. It has to reflect some market forces. 128 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 7: It has to reflect perceptions of the relative strength of 129 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 7: the yuan versus other major currencies, principally the US. They 130 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 7: don't want to see a free fall, they don't want 131 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 7: to see speculative pressure for a huge drop building up 132 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 7: so they are allowing it to gently drift blower or 133 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 7: drift weaker, depending on the precise language you wish to use. 134 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 7: I don't get the sense that that stance has changed significantly. 135 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Okay, that's very interesting to think about it in the 136 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: week that we've had the rate costs and several other 137 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: steps taken by the PBOC as well. But this is 138 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: at the same time that we have worries in the 139 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: property sector multiplying now state owned developers. According to this 140 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg tally, eighteen of the thirty eight state owned property 141 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: developers warning of lass as in the first half of 142 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: the year. How much of a concern is that. 143 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 7: Well, we've known the property sector is in dire shape. 144 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 7: It feels like, given everything that's been said and written 145 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 7: about evergrand in the past couple of years, the bankruptcy 146 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 7: filing in the US you referred to, almost seems like 147 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 7: a sort of a quaint footnote. We know the property 148 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 7: sectors in trouble. If we're getting some quantifiable numbers from 149 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 7: the private sector filings, then that's good because in other 150 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 7: ways China is closing off access to economic data. You'll 151 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 7: recall earlier this week they said they would suspend publication 152 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 7: of youth unemployment data. Just so happens that that data 153 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,359 Speaker 7: showed most recently a very high level of youth unemployment. 154 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 7: Would they have suspended it if it were showing a 155 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 7: very low level? 156 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: More broadly, what should we be taking away from this 157 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: week's events and the China, Chinese economy, and what does 158 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: it mean then for the rest of the world. 159 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting in the past week, it's like 160 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 7: the rest of the world has woken up to what 161 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 7: we've been talking about and writing about regarding the Chinese 162 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 7: economy for some months. It's almost like something snapped last 163 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 7: week and then Joe Biden's been dissing the Chinese economy. 164 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 7: Janet Yellen and her deputy have been voicing concern, but 165 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 7: in more circumspect tones. I think the crystallizing event from 166 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 7: a hard data front were publication of figures Wednesday last 167 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 7: week showing that China was in deflation rather than having 168 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 7: weak inflation, showing a lack of demand. Prices actually fell, 169 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 7: not just screw at a slower pace, actually fell. So 170 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 7: it's like there was a scarlet d painted on China's 171 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 7: back and that just seemed to galvanize a growing body 172 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 7: of opinion. The Chinese economy was not in great shape, 173 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 7: but since then it seems to have like burst forth 174 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 7: into consciousness. Paul Krugman wrote about it a couple of 175 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 7: days later. Now everyone's joining in. It looks like there's 176 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 7: a bull market for bad news from China. 177 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Just tells us we should be reading more of your columns. 178 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: Daniel mas Bimberg opinion columnists, thank you so much, which 179 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: for joining us with that analysis. Up next, Labor rows 180 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: back on workers' rights and lifting the lid on Mosk's SpaceX. 181 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 6: Now the paper review on blue Bird Daybreak Europe, the 182 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 6: news you need to know from today's papers, and. 183 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Lean Garrins is with us in studio with the details 184 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: of those stories. Morning to you, Leanne. Let's start in 185 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: the Financial Times. The headline there Labor rows back on workers' 186 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: rights to blunt Tory anti business claims. Stephen, good morning 187 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: to you. 188 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 8: So once again we see the battle lines being drawn 189 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 8: between Labor and the Conservatives ahead of the election, which 190 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 8: we do expect next year. So let's get into the 191 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 8: nitty gritty details Labour's watering down plans to strengthen workers' rights, 192 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 8: says Keir Starmer, really tries to woo corporate leaders and 193 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 8: discredit the claims from the Conservative government that is party 194 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 8: is antique business. The newspaper says during Labour's forum, which 195 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 8: happened over in Nottingham last month, a pledge to boost workers' 196 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 8: rights has been diluted. The FT has seen an article 197 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 8: about this in Seen Paperwork and says Labour's twenty twenty 198 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 8: one pledge to create a so called single status of 199 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 8: worker for all but the self employed, regardless of the 200 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 8: sector they work in, the wage they earn, all their 201 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 8: contract type, has now been delayed and apparently they are 202 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 8: rethinking the whole policy. Labour says it's not pushing this 203 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 8: worker policy. Instead, they are consulting on the proposal within 204 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 8: themselves and that is where they are. 205 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: At the moment. 206 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 8: The party has also clarified its position on probation for 207 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 8: new recruits, confirming a future Labor government would continue to 208 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 8: allow companies to dismiss staff during a trial period, something 209 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 8: they were debating now. A move away from these new 210 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 8: worker policies comes ahead. As I said, of a battle 211 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 8: of support of business leaders before the general election, Conservative 212 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 8: ministers looking to highlight what they see as a contradiction 213 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 8: between Labor's policies and Starmer's efforts to really impress the 214 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 8: corporate chiefs. We know they've been on a charm offensive. 215 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 8: Tory ministers and MPs worry that Labor is getting away 216 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 8: with harmful policies but under the umbrella of a friendly rhetoric. 217 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 8: So once again a piece really showing how things are 218 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 8: playing out ahead of that next election. And Stephen, we 219 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 8: also had Jeremy Corbyn on our podcast. 220 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I suppose very much from a different 221 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: point of view as to where Kirs Starmer is taking 222 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: the Labor Party. Jeremy Corbyn saying that he wanted to 223 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: see more radical social policy from the Labor Party. That's 224 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: perhaps not very surprising, but this is illustrating the dilemma 225 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: within the Labor Party as well as to the party 226 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: is trying to make itself more electable and moving to 227 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: the center and making sure that there aren't clear you 228 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: know that they have I suppose a stake also when 229 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: winning over business leaders and painting itself as the party 230 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: of business as it's tried. So yeah, interesting to see 231 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: that FT reporting on the subject the Wall Street Journal 232 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: lext Lean the headline there behind the curtain of Elon 233 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: Musk's secretive SpaceX. 234 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 8: Yes, indeed, so this is all about revenue growth and 235 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 8: rising costs within SpaceX. SpaceX generated one point of five 236 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 8: billion dollars in revenue in the first quarter of this year. 237 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 8: The private company also generated fifty five million dollars in profits. Now, 238 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 8: the slim earnings came after two years of significant losses 239 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 8: for Elon Musks SpaceX. It's actually pouring a huge amount 240 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: of money into a rocket at the moment that is 241 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 8: really plagued with difficult technical issues. SPA Stephen privately owned, 242 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 8: keeps its details about its finances pretty much under wraps, 243 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 8: so this story is unusual. The Wall Street Journal getting 244 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 8: a full look at some of the company's recent results 245 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 8: is not the normal when it comes to a private company. 246 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 8: But the company apparently is growing rapidly when the Wall 247 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 8: Street Journal has done this deep dive and was valued 248 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 8: at roughly one hundred and fifty billion dollars during a 249 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 8: recent employee stock sale, putting it on par with things 250 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 8: like intell and Disney. But we must say many people 251 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 8: with Stakes and SpaceX have no idea how much money 252 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,479 Speaker 8: the company makes all losses, and they see it basically 253 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 8: as a long term debt. 254 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 255 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 256 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, 257 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere you get your podcasts. 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