1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: A marathon Americans that is getting regular gasoline. And you 2 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: know what the biggest problem in terms of causing carbon 3 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: deposits and engines are the oil that you're putting in there. 4 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor at bottom line E p. A. Is 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: clearly making changes to the formulation of gasoline and they 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: don't exactly know where it's going to take us. Welcome 7 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron Andanian, the Car Doctors. 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: This is where car owners the world overturned to for 9 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 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Well, I 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: guess what they say about getting older is always a 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: good thing, right, It's better to get older, um than not. 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: So more information at Car Doctor Show dot com, tune 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: in dot com, iTunes, iHeart, and also at Google Play. 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: And like I said, we're here for your call, so 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: your question, so give us a quality five zero nine 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. You know, I come home at the 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: end of the day and I always talked to my family, 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, how was your day? And you know we 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: always have that conversation, and that's really what I try 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: to convey to you here. You know, we always get 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: these couple of minutes in the beginning of the show 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: to talk and just kind of warm up the base, 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: so to speak. And I said, Gee, what do I 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: want to talk about today? And I thought, I thought 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: it was something that just kind of caught my eye 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: this week. And I think of it as a tale 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: of two heaters, uh, in the sense that you know, 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: to two vehicles. Roughly eight years apart in model year 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: and to two very different types of repairs. Two thousand four, 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Chevy Tahoe came into the shop at our Automotive with 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: a complaint of no heat. And it was just blowing 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: cold there. And it wasn't a real elaborate heating air 49 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: conditioning system. It was a split system. It was cold 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: there from both sides though, and you know, it was 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: manual controls. This is two thousand four. It wasn't really 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: super high tech like you might see on something today. 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: And I went through and did my basics, did my 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: due diligence, and looked it over and checked coolant level, 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: ran it to see what the thermostat might be running at, 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: and scanned it for codes. Well, that's you know, the 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: basic drill. That's basically where you would start any sort 58 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: of a complaint, any heating complains something of that nature. 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: And the first one I proved I had paid dirt. 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: There was very little coolant in the radiator. It was 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: half empty, and the bottle of the expansion tank on 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: the left fender, well, right fender, well, I'm sorry, was empty. Gee, 63 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: it's it's had a cooling. So I filled it up 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: with water, knowing that if I had constituted a repair, 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna waste coolant. GM dex cool is more 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: than a few bucks a quart, and I thought we'd 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: just do some water and make a long story short. 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Now I had the ability. I had water in it 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't have a real harsh leak, and I was able 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: to run the vehicle long enough. And what do you know, 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: as soon as it hit a hundred and nine degrees 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: thermostat opened did what it was supposed to do. The 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: vehicle had heat when I burped all the air out 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: of it where the coolant go and talking to the 75 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: new customer, who's a newbie by the way, um hey Bill, 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: if you're listening, and I found out that the vehicle 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: had lost coolant about two weeks prior and overheated. Okay, 78 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: so I've got a perpetual cool loss issue that's creating 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: a no heat cold are at the ducks scenario, I 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: couldn't find a cooling leak on this vehicle at all. 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: And did I tell you the part where I said, 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: it's got two nine thousand, eight hundred and three miles 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: on it. So it's been around the block more than 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: once and it's just getting broken in. So I added 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: some cooling dye, some fluorescent eye to it, and decided, 86 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: let me run the vehicle and let me, you know, 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: look for the leak. You know, I'm gonna see something small. 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: There's got to be something obvious that's that's staring me 89 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: in the face. And sometimes when you're looking for a 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: leak like this, listen, it could be anywhere. It can 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: be a core plug, it can be a head gas 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: get issue, it can be something internal in the engine. 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: But suspicion told me, based on the traces of coolant 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: I was seeing along the front cross member, that this 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: was probably nothing more than a weepy water pump. Even 96 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: though the water pump had been replaced, I could tell 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: by looking at it that it was newer than the 98 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: rest of the vehicle. You know, we all know what 99 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: new means, and I don't know in what timeline of 100 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: new that it was done. Was it new three months old, new, 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: two months old, new, three years old? Who knows? So 102 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: I put some die in it, threw it out in 103 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the park a lot, let it run, put the blinker 104 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: on so that it reminded me that the engine was running, 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: and walked away, went over to the twenty thirteen, Ford Edge. 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: It was heater day at RNA. Like the way I 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: said that heater day at RNA. Don't worry, Tony, I'm 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna get you. We're gonna talk about the giants later. 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: And the same thing. Cold air at the ducks. Now, 110 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: this was a split system left and right, just like 111 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the Tahoe, but it was all electronic, meaning that it 112 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: has the Ford my sink system in it with the 113 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, navigation system and all the electronics, all the 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: bells and whistles that we all seem to want in 115 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: our cars today, but had an exact same complaint as 116 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the vehicle that was nine years newer. Older has to 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: be one or the other. Went through the diagnosis, right, 118 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: what do you do here? Scanned for codes um, look 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: the coolant level, verified thermostat operation, and found out that 120 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: it had two fault codes eleven E seventy five eleven 121 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: E seventy six, and it had plenty of coolant and 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: the thermostat was normal. The two fault codes were for 123 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: right and left air door rationality or common sense. They weren't. 124 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: They weren't seeing. It wasn't seeing the sensors. You know, 125 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: an air door is Basically, think of a heater or chord. 126 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: It's filled with hot water and when you open the 127 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: door and blow a fan across it. Depending upon how 128 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: open that door is, how exposed to airflow the heat 129 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: or core becomes. That's how much hot air it generates. Well, 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: in this case, the computer was being was commanding open 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: and closed, but it it didn't see any movement out 132 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: of the sensors. Went through and looked at all the obvious. 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, maybe I've got a stuck sensor. 134 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I can command it, and I could command it 135 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: and I could actually make the sensors move. I could 136 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: make the actuators move and see feedback on the sensors. 137 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: While it can't be that recorded the freeze frame datafford 138 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: recorded all the other information that I wanted and cleared 139 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: the code. When you know, the system started working again. However, 140 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: it's set a right side sensor as a hard failure, 141 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: but it's still worked. I still had heat, went through 142 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: and did some research. You know, there comes a point 143 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: in any good diagnosis where you're gonna get paid to 144 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: sit down and start reading and start researching and start 145 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: looking for information to match that vehicle is exhibiting, and 146 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: sure enough, through a hotline resource, I found Ford s 147 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: s M Special service message seven if memory serves me 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: correct that references actually twelve fourteen Edge Lincoln and a 149 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: few other Forward product vehicles. That if it exhibits these 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: particular fault codes and it match the fault codes that 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: I had, that and the vehicle had no heat or 152 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: no cold, that there was a software calibration for it. 153 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: In other words, an update for the heating, ventilation and 154 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: air conditioning h V a C air conditioning module that 155 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: would correct the problem. Sure enough, yep, did the software 156 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: update and fixed the vehicle. Well, I assume I fixed 157 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: the vehicle. It was working before I flashed it. All 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I can say is it's been out there three days 159 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: and the customer hasn't called up saying hey the car 160 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: is broken again. They understand the issues, and you know, 161 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: step by step, But look at the difference. Look at 162 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: look at what fixed both cars. One car You know 163 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: that that nine year old, nine year older Chevy Tahoe 164 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: was more of what you would expect, right, something mechanical. 165 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: It was low on cooling turns out and had a 166 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: bad water pump. The water pumps weepy which is what 167 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: the die led me to later on. By the way, 168 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: but look at that edge. Remember what I keep telling 169 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: you about, and I keep making comment on how technology 170 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: is changing the course and the need of repair. Here's 171 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: a perfect example of it. Two similar systems, or two 172 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: similar complaints and symptoms and similar systems, but vastly different 173 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: repair strategies and vastly different repair procedures. You know, here's 174 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: a car. You look at the Tahoe. It needed a 175 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: water pump, a thermostat, some cooling. You know, if if 176 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: the if the bill was six, it was in parts. 177 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: The Ford Edge was a two fifty dollar repair, some 178 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: diagnostic time, and then some software, and none of it 179 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: was parts. None of it was a hard parts replacement. 180 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Look at the difference in the way those vehicles are repaired. 181 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: But think deeper. Ten years from now, when more cars 182 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: are fixed with software, what's that going to do to 183 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: the parts distribution network in this country? And how is 184 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: that going to affect them? They realize what they're up against. 185 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: By the way, the parts folks they're they're getting, they're 186 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: really on the bandwagon. I can't say they're jumping on it. 187 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: They've been there for a very long time, and they're 188 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: they're very actively trying to train this generation of repair 189 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: shops to make them understand repair procedures, but also to 190 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: create an allegiance with them so that they they think of, 191 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: you know, who's taking care of them, so they can 192 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: take care of and vice versa. Parts are going to 193 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: become an issue in terms of less parts will be 194 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: sold on the car of the future when it gets repaired, 195 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: then currently being you know, dictated out there. So just 196 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: something to think about. Just just it just really got 197 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: my attention when I thought about that. That means less 198 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: parts being purchased, That means less parts being needed, That 199 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: means less deliveries, less warehousing, and and so on. So 200 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: just I just wanted to pass that along. Hold on, 201 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. I'm ronin n a k A. 202 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor Zeros the phone number, and I hope 203 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: that story made sense. It just happened this week, this 204 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: this past week, Wednesday and Thursday and Friday. That was 205 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: in the shop. So two vehicles to similar conditions, two 206 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: vastly different repairs. Hey, we're gonna return and kick the 207 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: garage doors open right after this. Don't go away, I'll 208 00:11:48,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: be right back. You think that ever. Welcome back. Why 209 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: don't need the card ocerate five five zero nine nine 210 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let's tick the garage doors open and go 211 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: talk to Mike and Shinnon Oiowa, Mike, Welcome to the 212 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, how can I help Ron? Thanks for 213 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: taking my call. I really appreciate it, and I just 214 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: wanted to take a minute to thank you for the 215 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: information and that you provide for us regular working Joe's 216 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: out here. Happened here for you? Mike, Yes, sir, go ahead. 217 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I've got a that's all right. I've got 218 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: a two thousand one Ford Ranger with a two point 219 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: three Leader Forces owner and uh and it's got a 220 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: five speed in it. And a friend of mine told 221 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: me that whenever I'm towing with that, I should never 222 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: put it in fifth gear. And I wanted to see 223 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: what your opinion of it was that if if you're 224 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: towing in fifth are like towing two thousand pounds? Am 225 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: I prematurely wearing out to clutch on that vehicle? I 226 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: think it depends on where and when. First of all, 227 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: is the vehicle as it's set up rated to tow 228 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: that two thousand pounds, It has a package yeah, okay, 229 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: so as long as you're not exceeding the toe design 230 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: of what they originally set the vehicle up for. My 231 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: thoughts on towing in fourth or fifth gear or simply 232 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: what's the engine load? And you know where is the engine? 233 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Are we lugging it? You know, fIF fifth gear in 234 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: that range you're towing. You know, are you doing sixty 235 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: five seventy miles an hour? Are you just cruising along 236 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: at forty fifty? I'm I'm a fifty five guy. I'm 237 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: stuck in the sixth or in the seventies when the 238 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: when a speed limit was. Yeah, I get it, and 239 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: that's okay. But you know, my question is where's engine rpm? Uh? 240 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to I don't want to 241 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: be dogging it so that it's down so low that 242 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: if I have to accelerate or I'm making the I'm 243 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: more worried about making the engine work too hard. You know, 244 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's I'm not so. I'm not so worried 245 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: about the wear and tear on the clutch. I don't 246 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: see how that's gonna get affected unless you get to 247 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: that long hill and you're trying to pull it in 248 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: fifth in fifth gear, and you're making the engine work harder, 249 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: and you're logging it so bad that it starts to 250 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: buck and shake, and you know i'd put it in 251 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: fourth gear and accelerate. Uh, you know, explained to me. 252 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: Have your friend explained to me? Or you how is 253 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: the clutch gonna wear? If the pressure plates grabbing the 254 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: clutch disk, how's the clutch gonna wear? The clutch isn't slipping. 255 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: If the clutch is slipping, it's gonna wear, right. Sure, 256 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you if you partially push in on 257 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: the clutch pedal, it's gonna wear because you're gonna make 258 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: it slip. But as long as that clutch is engaged, 259 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, my concern is, are you gonna lug the 260 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: engine or you're pulling the engine into two low and 261 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: rpm range that it's going to have to work harder 262 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: to accelerate for the occasional dips and bumps and inclines 263 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: on the road. So you know, he's not wrong for 264 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: what he's thinking. He's just he's just wrong for what 265 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: he thinks. The problem is going to be, my opinion, 266 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: we were just discussing the gear ratio, you know, because 267 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: when you go to fifth you're at point seven nine, 268 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: I think on the Ranger and four to one, and 269 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: that's that's that's probably what brought on this discussion. Yeah, 270 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know what I think. It's 271 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: also a matter of comfort, you know, listen, Well, i'll 272 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: give you a different example, the hot rods, the hot 273 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: rods of five speed, all right, So you know there's 274 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: a there's a performance application. And you know, if I'm 275 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: if I'm around town, attur that engine runs happiest between 276 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: PM as an every day you know, that's sort of 277 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: the power band where I try to keep it where 278 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: it seems to be happy under under two grand. It lugs, 279 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: it pulls, it, it it just you can just feel 280 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: the way the engine is not really responsive. So I'm 281 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: actually hurting it. Could I run around town in fourth gear? Yeah? 282 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: Could I run around town in fifth gear? Yeah? It 283 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't like it, but I could do it, you know. 284 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's also a sense of how does it 285 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: feel to you? And that's the question for you the operator. 286 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: How does that feel when you're towing it? And you 287 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: know the difference between fourth and fifth what feels right 288 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and what doesn't? And you know that's just something I've 289 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: learned over time with the hot rod. You'll you know, 290 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: you're you're you'll do it this way to have your 291 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: toad with this yet and done it in fifth gear 292 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: and fourth gear? Do you feel the difference? Yeah, yeah, 293 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it it takes a lot more 294 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: rpm in fourth gear, you know, And I just I 295 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: mean and that that that concerns me to you know, 296 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: because you're you're running. I mean, you know, it's probably 297 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: another two rpm when you're in fourth gear as opposed 298 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: to five. Yeah, And you know what, then there's the 299 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: and there's the fuel consumption, and then there's there's you know, 300 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: making the engine work a little harder. It is just 301 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: a little four cylinder pulling a one ton trailer or 302 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: one ton whatever it is. So you know, all that's 303 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: all that's part of the mix. But now think of 304 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: it like this. If the power band is happiest that 305 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: oh at rpm, you know, I don't know, you know, 306 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: in fifth gear, and I guess maybe that's a good experiment. 307 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: Take it out on the highway at fifty five miles 308 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: an hour and fifth gear, where's the rpm? And you know, 309 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: when you're towing it with the trailer, how how does 310 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: it feel between fourth and fifth and where does it 311 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: seem like it's the most responsive. And that's really what 312 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: I would be looking more at in terms of you know, where, 313 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: where where and how and where do I want to 314 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: shift this gear with? All right, and that's that's something 315 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: else to consider, alright. So alright, Well like to say 316 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: thanks for the service you provide. We we listen to 317 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: you and get a lot of good tips from me. 318 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: We've I've learned a lot about doing my own maintenance 319 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and I've learned about how to pick a good mechanic 320 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: from listening to you. Well, thank you, sir. And I 321 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: take that very serious, you know, I uh, sometimes I 322 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: forget what it is I'm doing here, and I hate 323 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: to say it like that, but it's the truth. I 324 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, you lose sight. It's been twenty five going 325 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: on twenty six years, and I hear things like that. 326 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: I received an email recently from a young man and 327 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: who telling me the story about it. You used to 328 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: listen to the radio show with his grandfather a good 329 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: ten twelve years ago. Today he's a mechanic. He's thirty 330 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: years old and he's you know, he's a mechanic. Somewhere 331 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: in Maryland. And you know what, you hear things like that, 332 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: you you turn people's lives into that. You go, Wow, 333 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: what an impact. Right, You're trying to leave the place 334 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: a better place than you found it. So I appreciate it, Mike, 335 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: and thanks to you and everybody out in Iowa. I'm 336 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: Ringindy in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 337 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back on the card, doctor, five five five six 338 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Let's get back to the busy phones. 339 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Jason and Minneapolis and some questions about a two thousand 340 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: seven Yukon. Jason. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How 341 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: can I help? Yeah, thanks for taking a call. Um. 342 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I've actually recently, in the last couple of years, experimented 343 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: a little bit with higher blended ethanol fuel higher than 344 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: ten percent. And I have an O seven three quarter 345 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: ton Yukon and I'm interested in converting it over to 346 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: a basically a flex fuel vehicle. Um. However, I don't 347 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: necessarily want to take the route of the you knows 348 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: that delay the injector pulse or they change the injector pulse. 349 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: And really what I like to do is, let's have 350 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: a flash non out computer, uh to to modify it, 351 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: and I have a hard time finding anyone that really 352 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: does it. Can you give me some information or your 353 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: opinion on that. Are you familiar with GM bulletin oh 354 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: five oh six, oh four? Oh nope? Okay, usage of 355 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: eight five fuel and a non non ethanol based, non 356 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: eight five vehicle as it's six pages and a detail 357 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: why you can't do what you want to do. I mean, 358 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: you can do it, but it's gonna it's gonna tell 359 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: you what's gonna happen in terms of corrosion in the 360 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: fuel system, the damage it's gonna cause, and some of 361 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the issues you're gonna have. But General Motors has such 362 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: a problem with this that they actually came out with 363 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: this bolton about a year ago because they're trying to 364 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: prevent people from just you know, making a non flex 365 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: fuel or no eight five vehicle into one without understanding 366 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: the ramifications. It's a problem. It's not something you can 367 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: do easily. And you know, you, I mean, I understand 368 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: why it's probably a cost per gallon to operate issue, 369 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: but you know the fact is that it's not just 370 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: any one component. It's it's gas tank components, it's you know, 371 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: it's the fuel pump. It's the way the computer is programmed. 372 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: You are correct, it's uh, you know, they have concerns 373 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: with moisture in the fuel system. They've got to put 374 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: some sensors in the fuel tank and then put some 375 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: indicators on the dashboard so it's not just a matter 376 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: of filling it up. And oh and sure does have 377 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the same problems. I believe all the manufacturers have the 378 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: same problem eighty five as the eighty five to my knowledge, 379 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: unless unless the vehicle is rated from the manufacturer to 380 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: run as a flexible fuel vehicle, it doesn't Sure. Yeah, well, 381 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm not one to subscribe to that because I've I've 382 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: had first hand experience with it for multiple years with 383 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: not having problems, and you know other people that do it. Um, 384 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: so I'm not too afraid. Do you know anyone that 385 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: are where I could go for a tune, because really, 386 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't scare me too you know, I'll scare me 387 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: away too much because I don't I don't know anybody 388 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: that does it in our area. And I'll tell you why, 389 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: because bulletin is like this from the manufacturer. Now put 390 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: the liability. Imagine me the repair shop and I program 391 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: your vehicle with a non Well, first of all, I 392 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: can't put an incorrect calibration in your vehicle and in 393 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: my experience and flashing unless GM recognizes that. Then, you know, 394 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: if it tells me if if I try to put 395 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: software into a vehicle that's not correct for the part 396 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: number on the vehicle PCM, it won't let me do it. 397 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: I can't overwrite that, not at my level, not as 398 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: a repair shop. Now, is there somebody out there that's 399 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: doing it? I'm sure there is. You know what, I 400 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: want to be the guy to tell you to do that. No, 401 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we live in a litigious society. I 402 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: can't imagine the liability factor. Um, you know, it would 403 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: make more sense to me to tell you to sell 404 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the vehicle and buy any eighty five rated vehicle and 405 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: not have the problem and not have to worry about 406 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: repair costs and other things. Yeah, like you say, I'm 407 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: sure there's people out there that are getting away with it, 408 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: But I don't think GM. I just have a hard 409 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: time because I mean, you look at you look at 410 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: the part numbers and they're almost identical on a flex 411 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: versus non flex. So I think I think a lot 412 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: of what we're receiving is kind of well, let me 413 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: ask you the question this way. Do you think there's 414 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: a difference in those parts because of the part numbers 415 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: being so close? I honestly I think, you know, it 416 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: could be a factor on some manufacturers, but I think 417 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: across the board we'd be having problems. We'd be having 418 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: tons and tons of problems because we already have a 419 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: higher blend in certain states. Some states that they do, 420 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: they do and that's how you can get well, let 421 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: me ask let me ask the question this way. Then, 422 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: do you think a company the size of General Motors, 423 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: with all the parts that they have to index and 424 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: keep track of it just comes up with different part 425 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: numbers for a flex field vehicle versus a straight gasoline engine. 426 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: Just for the heck of it. You know, there's probably 427 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: a reason here and and and that's what I'm trying 428 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: to point out to you that you know you can 429 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: do it. You can do it at your own peril. 430 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: You can be the science project. But to me, you know, 431 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: unless I see proof in the pudding results, and you 432 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: know what we live in. We live in a technology age. 433 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to beat you up, Jason. I'm 434 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: just trying to keep your eyes wide open. If if 435 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: we were at the shop, we'd be having this exact 436 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: same conversation, and I would tell you, jump on the internet. 437 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: Show me somebody that's done it, explained to me how 438 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: they did it and got away with it, show me 439 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: that they've been doing it longer than six months, that 440 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: they haven't had the issues, and I'd say, Okay, then 441 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: maybe you can. You can go on YouTube and and 442 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: find you know, find many people that do it. My 443 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: question for you is how many vehicles have you service 444 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: that have damage from ethanol um damage from ethanol? A handful, 445 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: not really a lot. But you know, I don't see 446 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: We don't see a lot of flex few vehicles in 447 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: the shop to begin with. And I'm not saying they're 448 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: the only ones with ethanol, but we don't see. And 449 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: and keep in mind, I think ethanol. I think ethanol 450 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: and ethanol damage is a result of I think it's 451 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: a regional issue around the country. I think certain parts 452 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: of the country are on different blends of fuel, and 453 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: I think certain parts of the country are more susceptible 454 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: to ethanol issues. Sure, just just just from just from 455 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: my seat here, but you know, you can't. You can't 456 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: look at one parent shop and say, hey, what are 457 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: you're seeing because you know in Bergen County, you know, 458 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: it's it's a totally different world than Central Jersey, the 459 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: South Jersey, then Pennsylvania, then New York, and you know, 460 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: the variety changes and and the issues and the problems change. Uh, 461 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: you know. And let me just one last comment. YouTube 462 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: is a guideline. It's not an authority. Yeah, I just 463 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: right take it at your own discretion and just be careful, 464 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: like I said, unless somebody could come up to me 465 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: and say, General Motors came out with that bulleton because 466 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: the engineer said we have to do it for liability, 467 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: or maybe we have to do it for emissions. Maybe 468 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: we're trying to meet an ep A mandate. I'm not sure, 469 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't want to go fooling around. I wouldn't 470 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: want to pump the wrong fuel or the incorrect fuel 471 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: into my thirty dollar vehicle when the manufacturer tells me 472 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: not to, and then if there's a problem, expect to 473 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: get some kind of warranteer service or satisfaction. Doesn't make 474 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: any sense, all right, sir, So good luck to you. 475 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: You let us know what happens, you'll be the you'll 476 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: be the science project and uh we'll look forward to it. 477 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: All right, you're welcome. Jason, Well you know what do 478 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: you do with that? By the way, let me just 479 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: jump in here real quick, hey Ton, Can I just 480 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: ask you real quick? Well, just you know, let me 481 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: just my thought. You know that that I get what 482 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Jason is trying to do. But you you know, you 483 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: you what, what's that expression? You can't put You can't 484 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: put a silk out on a on a pig and 485 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: make it look any better something like that. You can't 486 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: dress up a pig. It's still a pig. Um. The 487 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: Giants are two and three. I notice. Yeah, well no, 488 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, every time every time I talk about the Giants, 489 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: they seem to lose, and when I don't talk about them, 490 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: they seem to lose. It's like, it's just not our year. 491 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: It's just not your year. No, it's not so. But 492 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: at least you're not the Jets fans. It could be worse, 493 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: it could be worse or better. Yet, at least East 494 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: you're not Mets fans exactly exactly. So look at it 495 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: this way. The season's five games old. What do you 496 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: got another seven eight games, it'll be over. So eight 497 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: zero zero zero run on any of the car Doctor. 498 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Hey, welcome back n of 499 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: the card Doctor. Let's get over and talk to Bernie 500 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: from Florida two one Explorer Sports Truck. Bernie, Welcome to 501 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir, How can I help? UM? I 502 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: had a weird problem I was. I listened to a 503 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: faithfully up in Maine. Uh just interesting to see the 504 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: types of questions people come up with some time to time. 505 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: So I got one for you here. I'm not in Florida, 506 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: driving around on this flat land that's around here. Um I, 507 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: I have a severe slippage in third gear, so I 508 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: get it to second and put it in second and 509 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: get above m then it slides into the higher gears 510 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: and it gets by. Didn't have enough money to go 511 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: put a new transmission in it three thousand bucks. But 512 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: uh so I got by, and you know, hopefully seeing 513 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: how things go in the country here, it looks like 514 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: when you get my dog and my good and my 515 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: bodyble and live in a cave. But uh that that 516 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: that being said, Um I was thinking of Australia, and 517 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: then I found out Australia doesn't take people over fifty, 518 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: so I'm seventy five. I'm depending on all the things 519 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: that are going down the tubes. So life is going 520 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: to go down the tubes. I'm mesmerized because I drive 521 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: this truck in the last for the summer. I growing 522 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: up the main well in Maine, riding around on the 523 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: hills and all that stuff. Didn't slope a bit. I 524 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: just came down through the Alleghany Mountains. Uh places Daniel 525 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Boone couldn't walk and uh nothing, no problems whatsoever. Uh, 526 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm stumped. I had to put on a scope down here. 527 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: I got some sort of a seven hundred cold that 528 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: said it was a mechanical fair and I get three 529 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: options to get a junk transmission all the way up 530 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: to when it was rebuilt, with all the things they 531 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: should have done when they built the truck. Um. Well, 532 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know what to do with it. 533 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: Get rid of this truck before it dash completely, or 534 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Uh, I'm confused. 535 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: So hang on a second, Bernie. So up in Maine, 536 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: it road fine. Down here wherever you are, you're in 537 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: the Alleghany Mountains, all of a sudden it's acting up 538 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: the transit and I'm down in Florida and with flat 539 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: land down here where there's no hills, and it backs up. 540 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I get up in the mountains. It's not a problem. Okay. 541 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: Have you been back to the mountains yet to know that? 542 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: For effect? Well, I drove all the way to me 543 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: and spent all some along driving around, and you know, 544 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: it's it's hilly where I am spell summer driving around, 545 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: and then drove back down here to Florida for the winter, 546 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: down to the Allegheny Mountains. And you would think if 547 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: it was, you know, to put torque on a transmission, 548 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: would be the time it slept. That was right, And 549 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that statement. Happened? 550 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: Do you do you remember what? Do you remember what 551 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: fault code? They said seven thirty three seven uh, Only 552 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: that it was a component failure, not a not a 553 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: relay or something electrical. It could be um, you know, 554 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: because there's two possibilities, as it would explain to me, 555 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: it could be electrical thing that that could be corrected 556 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: relatively easy, or it was internal mechanical and that's what 557 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: the code said. It was internally mechanical. You know, to me, 558 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: mechanical is always mechanical. Mechanically it works mechanically, it doesn't. 559 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Confused me. I've seen very few mechanics failures in my career. 560 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: A right that you know, we're intermittent like that. Either 561 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: they work or they don't. So you know what I 562 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: would say, right, it's it's you know, it's either your 563 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: arm is broken or it's not. It's mechanical. It's it's 564 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: it's connected or it's not. It's one or the other. 565 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: I've never seen the transmission fix itself, so I would 566 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: tend to rule out the mechanical side of it as 567 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: a probably as a probability, and think more about the 568 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: electrical and why it's affected. The difference between Maine and 569 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Florida high you know, mountains to flat land. You know, 570 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: we can we can have conjecture from now until the 571 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: time we took it apart and fixed it. But right, 572 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: I would I would think more and etle stuff. I 573 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: know what uh you know superfluous uh factors are involved 574 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: here versus something inside the transmission. Well you don't now, 575 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: let me, but let me ask the question this way. 576 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: How many miles are on this You probably owe it 577 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: a trans because as you say, there's more than it. 578 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: There's more than a half a dozen or more updates 579 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: for that particular unit that you know. I know when 580 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: the rebuilders go through them, there's there's so many updates 581 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: and so many replacements and upgrades for No. One Exploder, 582 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: which is their nickname. And it's because of the transmission 583 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: that we call it that. Uh you know that that's 584 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: that's what that gets. So I would tell you, you know, 585 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: either you're gonna live with it or be prepared. At 586 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: least if you're gonna do it, pull it apart, put 587 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the trans in it, get it over with, let him 588 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: go through a top the bottom, make sure it's got 589 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: nationwide coverage. That way, whatever cave you end up in, 590 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: you'll be okay and protected. Bernie. I appreciate the call, 591 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: Zoe zero up against the clock. I gotta go. I'll 592 00:32:37,320 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: be right back and welcome back. We're needing of the 593 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: car to doctor zero nine zero zero number. Keep in 594 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: mind that if we are not in the air, we're 595 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: not live in your neighborhood. We're live on the network 596 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: Saturdays two to four pm Eastern time that you can 597 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: call eight five zero zero leave a message and we 598 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: will call you back and put you up here on 599 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: here and talk to you about your problem, because that's 600 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: what this radio shows about. Hey, real quick before I 601 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: go this hour. We started out at the top of 602 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: this hour talking a little bit about some unique repairs 603 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: and making comments about parts and training in the education 604 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: process and how the industry is changing. Well, a tip 605 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: of the hat to the folks over at dens So. 606 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Dens So, who are an o E supplier a right, 607 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: they supply parts to the manufacturers as well as the aftermarket, 608 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: have partnered with Parts Authority, a major parts warehouse here 609 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: in the continental United States, Parts Authority dot com and 610 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: put it and they have put together a series of 611 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: training classes making them available to repair shops and technicians 612 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: just like you or right from my from my brothers 613 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: and wrenches out there that are listening to the show 614 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: today and following the show, so you can get out 615 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: the Parts Authority dot Com and look and see what 616 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: it is they have in terms of parts and developer 617 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: relationship with them. And I say that because that helps 618 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: support the industry that's supporting us. We have to take 619 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: care of our own in this case. But as I 620 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: look through the dense OH guide their technical training Guide. 621 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: There's more than a few classes here and everything from 622 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Chrysler Engine Performance, Forward Engine Performance, General Motors. I went 623 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: to the class recently here in Paramus, New Jersey on 624 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: General Motors ignition systems, and um, we had a great time. 625 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: Uh a matter of fact, the instructor, Chris Lewis, is 626 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: a former employee. I know Chris is on a personal 627 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: basis a real good guy and um, just down to earth, 628 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: real solid technical information. And UM, I just want to 629 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: say thank you to them, you know here on radio 630 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: and just let you know that it's it's not so bleak, uh. 631 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: For all the repair shops out there are thinking like gee, 632 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do and how are we gonna 633 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: do it? You know, there are manufacturers out there like then, 634 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: so there are parts houses out there like Parts Authority, 635 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: Parts Authority dot Com that are trying to make it 636 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: possible for the independent repair shops to survive and thrive 637 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: and grow. And UM, you know we've got to look 638 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: at that. And you know, and we've been talking about 639 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: parts here as well, and you know I've heard your 640 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: woes and complaints about the white box part and the 641 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: cheap part and you know what, I even know even 642 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: the name brand parts. Everybody has their issues and the 643 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: only way we're gonna solve this is to make our 644 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: voices heard and also to stay with the name brand 645 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: parts and try and get them to improve their product 646 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: over time. But I'll tell you what, the parts gonna 647 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: be the best in the world. If we don't have 648 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: the training, if we don't have the knowledge, there's no 649 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: way we're gonna survive in this industry is gonna look 650 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: drastically different. So um, just something to be aware of. 651 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: Get out the Parts Authority dot com for more information 652 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: as well as take a look at then. So hey, 653 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: the hands of the great provoge tell me that this 654 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: hour is just sort of flown by. There's more card 655 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: doctor and to come after the news at the top 656 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: of the hour and us to these affiliates. Until then, 657 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm rondon any in the car doc reminding each and 658 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: every one of you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 659 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: See