1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. All right, you guys, Jamie 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Bronstein is here. She's voted the number one relationship coach 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: by Yahoo Finance. You're also a licensed clinical social worker 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: and now author. This is so exciting. The new book 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: is called Manifesting, a step by step guy to attracting 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: the love that is meant for you. So Jamie, help 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: us all out. I want to know, first of all, 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: what made you want to write a book about manifesting love? 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: What didn't make me want to write a book about 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm not you know what? Love? As cheesy as it sounds, 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. It's always been my passion. It's always 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: been here in my life since I was little, and 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: I feel so grateful to have grown up with parents 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: that now just celebrated their fifty first wedding anniversary. So, 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: my birst, I'm a pisces. I don't know, I'm romantic. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: So love to me has always been a part of 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: my life. And right now I have Thecasian obviously the 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: higher education than twenty years of experience. Um, so I 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: did get to the point of my career where I 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: started working just with singles, couples and breakups and divorces. 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: And then when I came down to deciding that I 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: wanted to write this book, I thought, what is the 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: population that I feel needs, like not the most help, 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: but which population can I serve the greatest and really 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: open their eyes? Because before you manifest your person, this 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: is the time where there is It's kind of like, 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: of course you can teach an old dog new tricks. 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: This really is that beautiful time when people are filled 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: with hope, and even if you have had a relationship 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: and you want to manifest again, it's still that hopeful time. 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: So I think that's why I chose this population. And 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with teaching people how to manifest love. So 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: and I also manifest did my husband, So I know. 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: I just I use my my stories, my clients stories, 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: and all these spiritual concepts that are very real and 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: really work to make this book. Yes, I was just 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: telling you before we started, I totally buy into all 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: of the things that you say in this book. And 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: it was good for me to read though, because you 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: verbalize it in this very digestible format. Like I was 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: thinking to myself yes, like that's what I felt for 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: so long, but I haven't been able to actually communicate it. 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: And so another thing I want to know is what 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: is the number one problem, Like could you put into 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: wards maybe one problem that you see consistently amongst the 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: people that you work with that are just not able 48 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: to find the relationship that they want. I believe that 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: the number one issue thing that's holding people back from 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: really manifesting the right person for them is that they're 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: not connected with their intuition. And and yes, intuition can 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: be woo woo, and it is the way that I 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: simply talk about intuition is that really all it is 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: is connecting with yourself, Okay, yourself. It's getting rid of 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: the noise, getting rid of anybody else's opinion, and just 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: trusting yourself. Because people decide to go into a relationship, 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: to stay in a relationship or to not because so 58 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: many times because of what is going on in their 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: outside world versus just really going inside and just asking 60 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: yourself what makes me happy? M It's so true. And 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: also like to me, that's when I bump up against 62 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: the good on paper person, you know, because like I 63 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: think we see all the time like we're like, oh, well, 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: he's cute, he's got a good job, he's whatever. But 65 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: if it's not really aligned with who you are, it's 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: not probably going to be the relationship you want either. 67 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: But if we listen to everyone else's voices or maybe 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: like societies voices and not our own, that's the relationship 69 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: you end up. And do you see that a lot? Yes? 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: And actually I love to be relatable and to be vulnerable, 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: and so I'll just give you a little example from 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: my life. Years ago. I was dating this guy who 73 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: um he was. I don't want to get too much information. 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: I do talk about in my book, but I rename him. Okay, 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: he everything on paper, I mean so successful, tall, dark 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: and handsome. I'm Jewish. He was Jewish like because he 77 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: has to do with my parents, like you know, the 78 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: parents went like the Jewish, like the successful, like everything. 79 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: And he was a schmoozer. My parents were obsessed with him, 80 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: and I remember my mom saying to me, you know, Jamie, 81 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: it's really hard to find a good guy. And so, 82 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: but they didn't know that he kind of drank too 83 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: much and he wasn't fun to be around, and he 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: was so stressed out because he had this really stressful 85 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: job and sometimes like he loved me so much and 86 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: I was everything he was looking for but didn't really 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: express that in like the greatest way. So that is 88 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: a perfect example of he really was amazing on paper. 89 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: And I had my parents who I adore telling me, 90 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean this was I was twenty and I was 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: twenty seven. It was for it is now like, um, 92 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: but you know what, at that time, I didn't have 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: the tools. I didn't have the tools to look inside 94 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: and obviously not obviously, but I am now married to 95 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: not him. I'm married to Brian, who's not a He's 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: not a he's not Mike. Yes, but I stayed in 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: the relationship way too long, and that's what happened so 98 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: many times. Yeah, that's been my story as well. And 99 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with the outside pressures. 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: And I think as women too, especially like you're talking 101 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: about your parents and feeling like you needed to pick 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: a great Jewish guy and all of these like factors 103 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: that might not necessarily play into what your soul is 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: needing or looking for, but like we feel these pressures, 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Like a lot of women write me right to me 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: all the time, like I'm in my thirties, I'm not 107 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: married yet. I want to have kids. I want to 108 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: have a family. And so I think we start to 109 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: stop listening to our intuition, as you said, is the 110 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: most important thing, and we start looking at our programming 111 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: or like operating from that place, and we're not picking 112 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: exactly right for what we really want or need. It's 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: not interesting because so many of my clients they say, 114 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: my pickers off. Yeah, they And so what I do 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: is I help people to our intuition is just a muscle. 116 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: So it's just just like going to the gym. You know, 117 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: you can strengthen your your physical muscles. You can also 118 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: strengthen your intuitive muscle. And it doesn't need to be 119 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: overwhelming people. Some we're all born with an intuition, and 120 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: women we tend to women's intuition, you know, we tend 121 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: to have more of want, like more a stronger one 122 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: naturally than guys. But you know, some guys have like 123 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: there are some wonderful male psychics out there and intuitives. Um. 124 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: But really I just say start with just close your 125 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: eyes and look inside and ask yourself a question. Is 126 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: this yes or no? Okay? Is this a yes? Or 127 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: a no, because we always know the answer and it's 128 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: usually not Usually it always is right from the beginning. 129 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: But people make themselves crazy trying to figure out what 130 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: they should do. Okay, let's talk about that though. Is 131 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: it a yes or a no? Like when you said that, 132 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: I immediately went into my body and I was like, okay, 133 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: like thinking about certain situations and like, what if you're 134 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: insides and your intuition and your gut is telling you 135 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: this is a yes, like from a soul level, but 136 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: on paper it doesn't make sense. How would you talk 137 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: yourself like? What? How do you not talk yourself out 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: of that? I just heard a quote yesterday that resonated 139 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: so much. It was so amazing. I can't remember right now, 140 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: but it was. It was basically, I think I was 141 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: watching a rom com. I love romantic movies, and it 142 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: was basically that, let's say true love intuition. It doesn't 143 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: need to make sense, Okay, it's you know what I 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: was doing. I was actually going through. I was I 145 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: was interviewing somebody on my podcast, was going through the 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: time stamps of what I want to post on Instagram. 147 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: That's what it was. I loved what she said. She 148 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: said that your intuition is it doesn't need to make sense, 149 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: You don't need to know why, it just it's you 150 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: just know so and I totally resonate with that because 151 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: so many times, I mean, I can think back to 152 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: when I was dating there were some guys that surprised 153 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: me with that's interesting that I'm feeling this connection. However, 154 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: I believe that it's all about energy. You know, we 155 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: are all made up of energy. So when you have 156 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: that energetic connection, it's undeniable and it doesn't matter what's 157 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: on paper, but it's there, So don't even try to 158 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: make sense of it, but just go with it. It's 159 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: it's a heart opener. It feels, it elevates you and 160 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: there's no better feeling, so it doesn't need to make 161 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: sense on pavor. Okay, Well, something I'm starting to lean 162 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: into and I'm wondering if you believe in this too, 163 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: But um, I think our society puts a lot of 164 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: pressure on like the forever relationship or it has to 165 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: be a marriage and it has to be long term. 166 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: And something that I've really leaned into lately is how 167 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: much I've learned from each relationship I've been in, and 168 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: so like kind of what you're saying about trusting how 169 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: it feels energetically and knowing I needed that at that time. 170 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: I did need that at that time whatever. For like, 171 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: even if it wasn't gonna be my forever relationship, it 172 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: did help my soul evolve and grow and get me 173 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: to my next right path, you know. And so I'm 174 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: feeling like, if you're trusting your intuition and your energy 175 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: is aligning with a person, maybe that's maybe it's not 176 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: even like a forever relationship, but it is the relationship 177 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: you need right now, which you wouldn't necessarily be able 178 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: to logically pick. That's all driven by energy, intuition and 179 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: all of those things. Do you feel that, Yes? And 180 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: I love that you're saying this because people do put 181 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: so much pressure on themselves too to think can this 182 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: be forever? Right? Nobody knows the answer today exactly. The 183 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: two happiest people in the world could come together and 184 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be forever, plus their souls. Somebody could die, 185 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: somebody could cheat, somebody you don't know, so you know, 186 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: and also controls and a lusions. So it's all about control. 187 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: If we surrender and we let go of this control 188 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and we just say does this make me happy? Now? 189 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: Not in a not in an immature way, you know, 190 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: like children will will do things that are spontaneous or 191 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: the Yeah, that's not what this is. This is Does 192 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: this at the sole level make me happy? Do I? 193 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Is my heart at peace? Peace? In my heart and 194 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: in this moment? Because it's not? Is it easy to 195 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: is it? Does my book make manifesting easier? Yes? Does 196 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: it take the suffering away from people? Yes? But relationships 197 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: are not easy, so it doesn't mean that things aren't 198 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: perfect at all. I love that you use the word 199 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: piece though, because I do feel like that. That's the 200 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: thing in relationships too, is like are you peaceful? Are 201 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: you like operating at a you know, fight or flight 202 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: response all the time? Like those are the ways that 203 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: you should know if this is good for you or not? 204 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: And um, yeah, peace. That's like a very simple thing 205 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: like ask yourself, Am I at peace? Yes? And that 206 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: is what I've come to to know as a marker. 207 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: And I talked about this science all the time and 208 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: they probably got I know that they got a little 209 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: surprised when I say like do you feel at peace? 210 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: And they think, well, I'm always thinking about am I happy? 211 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: Are we fighting? And the word peace doesn't really come 212 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: in two things, but I really from my forty years 213 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: un this earth and twenty years in practice, I have 214 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: learned that it really is do you feel peace in 215 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: your heart? Yeah? Yeah? Um you say in the book 216 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: that the number one thing and manifesting is to honor 217 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: who you are. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, 218 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: So our outside experiences are a reflection of our inner reality. 219 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: This is a love of attraction concept. So it's really 220 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: important to be loving yourself, to be unconditionally loving yourself 221 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: so that you can attract the right match for you. 222 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: If you're showing up as anybody else, not loving yourself, 223 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: not showing up as your authentic self, you're going to 224 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: attract that match. And so that's why so many people 225 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: go through relationship relationship and they don't make any changes 226 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: and they're not really feeling good inside. Um. I can 227 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: give an example. So for instance, if you are walking 228 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: around and feeling like you're not worthy of love, you're 229 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: not capable of love, You're going to attract someone who's 230 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: just going to validate that. So that's why it's that's 231 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: the incentive that's people say it's too hard or I 232 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: don't want to people. As as hard as it is 233 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: to stay where you are it's comfortable, it takes work 234 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: to make changes. So I always say, well, the incentive 235 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: is that you'll actually be manifesting the right person if 236 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: you start loving yourself more. Okay. But so with that statement, 237 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: the loving yourself, it's like people go, Okay, well, then 238 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do a lot of self care or 239 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to yes, I love myself, I'm gonna empower myself. 240 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm a queen. You know. There's all these things we say. 241 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: I think, like to quote unquote look like we love ourselves. However, 242 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: like for me, it's for example, like I know that 243 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: in the past I was really working towards empowering myself, 244 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: to love myself, but there was still some things inside 245 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: of me that maybe just weren't healed, and for some reason, 246 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: I just did not believe deep down inside that I 247 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: was worthy of love, Like I still had my own 248 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: insecurities or lack of self worth or whatever it was. 249 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: And so then I was drawing in partner is that 250 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: just reflected that back to me. I didn't fully understand 251 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: the mirroring concept until this past year, but like it 252 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: makes sense, and I would get so mad at them, like, well, 253 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: why aren't you you know, like let's say they we're 254 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: super busy all the time and wouldn't pay attention to 255 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: the relationship or it was like a very one sided situation, 256 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and I kept getting mad at them for that. But 257 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: the reality is is all they were doing was reflecting 258 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: back to me what I thought my level of worth was. 259 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Yes? And also what 260 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm hearing you say is that if they weren't paying 261 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: attention to you, maybe you weren't paying attention to you totally. 262 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: If they betray you, you're betraying yourself, abandoning myself all 263 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: the things, yes, Like how can I ask someone else 264 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: to treat me a certain way if I'm not willing 265 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: to treat me a certain way? And I was there 266 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: a long time ago. Also, I grew up hearing you 267 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: have to love yourself. Yeah. But so that's another reason 268 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: why I wrote this book, because these buzzwords, these quotes, 269 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: these cliches, there's a reason why I think people just 270 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: aren't taught the right way, like really what it means. 271 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm bringing awareness your brain awareness too. 272 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna really love yourself. It's also for giving yourself, 273 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: forgiving others, healing yourself and healing all your relationships. There's 274 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: so much that goes into it. But at the end 275 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: of the day, it's not it's not that difficult. You know, 276 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: when you just let go of of any type of 277 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: regrets that you have, any type of I'm not worthy 278 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: and um, I'm not good enough, that all happened. It 279 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: could have happened. You. People have these negative narratives that 280 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: started from either something their parents said to them, something 281 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: of somebody in the sandbox and nursery school said to them, 282 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: and lots of them are from past relationships. So what 283 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: I do is I do something called compassionate self forgiveness, 284 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: which is you identify what the misbelief is misidentification. So 285 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm not worthy of love. So you close your eyes 286 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: and put your hand in your heart and you say, 287 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: I forgive myself for buying into the misbelief that I'm 288 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: not worthy of love. What is the truth? The truth is, 289 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: of course I am. And then the client anybody who's 290 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: ever doing this, really taps into the truth because the 291 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: negative narrative is not the truth. Yeah, I was talking 292 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: about this recently on a podcast. Just the more I 293 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: am tapping into the critical voices in my head, I'm like, God, 294 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: they're mean. You know, the things that I say to myself, 295 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: It's like, no wonder I operate in the way that 296 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: I do in certain situations because I'm constantly critiquing myself 297 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: or like, um. Part of the reason that my word 298 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: of the year is to dare myself is because I 299 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: think I've kind of gotten very passive in my own 300 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: life out of fear, you know, like, um, the voices 301 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: can creep up, and I'm like, I'm actually daring myself 302 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: this year to not listen to those voices and to 303 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: to kind of go, wait, there is another path, and like, 304 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: that's actually not the truth. But that's the worst possible 305 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: narrative that I could that it could happen, or that 306 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: I could say to myself. And if it's constantly happening 307 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: in your head, that is what you'll attract in too, 308 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: because our brains just want to make whatever our brains 309 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: are thinking reality. Yes, And so anybody who's watching who 310 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: hasn't had any education on this, what we're talking about 311 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: is that the ego. The mind is only fear based 312 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: and it spews outlies. Now it's during the best it can. 313 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: It does this to protect us. Okay, we need our 314 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: ego because a lot, like a long time ago, we 315 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: developed our ego to protect us from bears and touching fire. 316 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: So running a photo, we need the ego to to 317 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: protect us. But the ego takes it to the next 318 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: level and wants to protect us from being big in 319 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: our career, from being big and bold and daring in 320 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: our in our love life. So what we have to 321 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: do is we need to go drop down from our 322 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: head to our heart and we need to say, okay, 323 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: bluster your soul. You know, I hear you, because fear 324 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: is just gonna be part of our life. It's not 325 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: going to disappear. Take a seat. I am the driver 326 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of this boss. Me, my soul, my authentic self, my heart. 327 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: I am the driver of this boss. Take a seat. 328 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: I got this. So you need to talk to you 329 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: need to talk to the fear. Yeah. One so often 330 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I find that mine is it's like a child voice, 331 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, and it's the panic. It's like you can't 332 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: do that, you can't do that, you can't it's like that, 333 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: And what you just said is how I like go 334 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: into my adult self and I'm like, hey, like, I 335 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: hear you, little Kelly or whatever I want to call it, 336 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: but I hear you. Understand that, like I have to 337 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: feel heard for me to like really put it to bed. 338 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: But then I also can say, like, hey, I'm gonna 339 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: do like I am in control of this, I've got this, 340 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I know what to do, I know how to take 341 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: the next right step, um and operate more like an 342 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: adult than a fearful child. Like I find that when 343 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm triggered, that's kind of the childish narratives or what 344 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: take over because it's like panic almost and life is 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: short and daring. You know. When I when I saw 346 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: it that your word was daring, the first thing that 347 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: came to me was what do we do to dare assaults? 348 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: And what we do is we have no attachment to 349 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: the outcome. No. I love that. Yeah, we have the 350 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: fear and we do it anyway, which everyone has heard, yes, 351 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: but we have no attachment to the outcome. So we 352 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: take that chance because life is short, and we just 353 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: surrender and we say I trust that whatever the outcome 354 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: is is going to the outcome that is supposed to 355 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: be and I'm going to be okay no matter what. 356 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: And that is huge and dating, is it not? Because 357 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: I think we're all so scared of having our heart 358 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: hearts broken or the pain that comes from maybe a 359 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: relationship not working out, and so then you just kind 360 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: of don't even want to do it. So how do 361 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: we overcome those kind of fears when we are walking 362 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: into this place of wanting to manifest the love that 363 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: we want. Well, first of all, Spirit meets you at 364 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: your point of action. Okay, at least type of action 365 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: that you're going to take, whether it's getting on a 366 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: dating app, saying yes to the date, getting off your couch, 367 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: whatever that yes is, whatever that action is, Spirit will 368 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: meet you. The universe will meet you. And this is 369 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: so real, I mean, from little situations to big situations. 370 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: So the first thing you need to do is just 371 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: know that you need to take action and know that 372 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: love is a risk, but it's such a risk worth 373 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: taking because to me, I mean, this is my life. 374 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: Love is where we live. So would you rather stay 375 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: where you are and not take the risk, or take 376 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: the chance and open yourself up to the magic of love? 377 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: Sounds cheesy once again, I just have to I have 378 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: to call it out, but it's really not. When you 379 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: walk around and you are love and you're what the 380 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: person you're supposed to be with, it raises your vibration, 381 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: You become more of a of your authentic self, You 382 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: accomplish more, you tappen more into your creativity. There's so 383 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: many benefits of being with the right person. So take 384 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: that chance, and take that chance over and over until 385 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: it happens. Right. I think what you said earlier is 386 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: huge to that too, of just like knowing you're going 387 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: to be okay, Like that's been a big one for me. Um. 388 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I've recently been dating some a little bit and coming 389 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: out of relationships that were hard in the past. Like 390 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: there was this part of me that was like, oh, 391 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't really want to do this again, but then 392 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: it's like yes, and I also survived all of those 393 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: situations and like, I'm still here. It's still good. Even 394 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: if they were painful, they did all produce so much 395 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: growth for me, and and like you said, they did 396 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: all bring love too in those moments. I would never 397 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: trade even if they didn't end In the quote unquote 398 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: Forever fairy Tale or whatever that we make up that 399 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: we have to have. They've served the purpose for me, 400 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, And so I do think that what you're 401 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: saying is true, Like we're gonna be okay, And that's 402 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: a pain that's survivable, even if it feels not like 403 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: it in the moment, you can survive. I think of 404 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: it as a ladder. What do you mean time every 405 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: time you have a relationship, Yeah, you are insightful and 406 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: you really want to be on this manifesting journey, manifesting 407 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: love journey. The people that look back and say, what 408 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: did I learn from this? What did I get from this? 409 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: Every time you become stronger and you become what you're 410 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: looking for becomes more crystallized and clear, and so everything 411 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: is leading you through all like these dots that are 412 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: leading you to you your ultimate soul mate. So nothing 413 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: happens for no reason. Everything is meant to be. But 414 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: it's it's about doing that work to be reflective and 415 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: to know this was not for no reason. I've heard 416 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: it said, you know, we were talking a little bit 417 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: about this self love and how you know, I've heard 418 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: it said a million times where it's like you have 419 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: to love yourself before you can find true love. Um, 420 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: do you buy into that? Because then I've also heard 421 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: the opposite side of that, that love and the right 422 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: relationship can really bring us closer to ourselves into loving 423 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: ourselves even more, like sometimes we need it reflected back 424 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: to us from someone else. So which one is true? So, 425 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: and I do think about this, and we were we 426 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: were talking about this before, and I was saying that 427 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: it is so important because of the law of attraction, 428 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: to be able to show up as our authentic selves, 429 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: to be loving right unconditionally. I think that sometimes it 430 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: can be a mixture, however, meaning like maybe you don't 431 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: love yourself unconditionally and there are some unresolved issues because 432 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: this does happened of course in life, and then this 433 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: person comes into your life and helps you heal, and 434 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: that is the love is healing. Also, however, I do 435 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: think you do need to You can't be like this 436 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: person who's like completely negative, who doesn't think it's going 437 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: to happen, who really looks down on themselves completely. I've 438 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: never heard of a situation where then they find their 439 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: saw me. You do have to at least love yourself enough, 440 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: let's put it that way. And yes, I agree that 441 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: love is so healing, love is so they could take 442 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: it deeper. Maybe, yes, it enhances. Ideally, it's it's two 443 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: people that come together that are loving themselves, and it's 444 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: just the kind of like the cherry on top. However, 445 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it's not how it always works. Like I said, you 446 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: can't be completely down here and completely in this darkness, um, 447 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: because that's too much pressure on the other person. If 448 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: you think about that, it's more of like a rescue. 449 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: Then it feels which is already like having an off 450 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: power dynamic when you start their relationship. Yeah, like your 451 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: your significant others should should not be your therapist. You 452 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: guys should just have fun and enjoy each other and 453 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: have this relationship and have this deep connection and heal 454 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: together and whatever you need to do. But that burden 455 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: of them exactly what we said, saving you, that's not 456 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: their role. Okay, let's talk about this. So a lot 457 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: of the narrative amongst my girlfriend says there are no 458 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: good men out there, and we have one of our 459 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: friends and our friend Grup says, well, if you keep 460 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: thinking that, then there that's all you're gonna draw in. 461 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: And I had never thought about that. She started saying 462 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago, and it really clicked 463 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 1: for me because I was like, that's right. If I 464 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: only think that there are like not great guys out there, 465 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to only draw in guys to make that 466 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: narrative true. And I try to say this to women 467 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: all the time, um, because especially nowadays, I feel like 468 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: the men around us they are shifting and growing and 469 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like healers out there working to 470 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: help men, you know, start to dive into their healthy 471 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: masculine energy and all just healing work kind of things. 472 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: So do you hear a lot of women, particularly saying that, 473 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: or maybe even its men saying like, well, women are crazy, 474 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: and like if we keep with those narratives, do you 475 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: think it's possible to find a healthy relationship. No? No, 476 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: if you stay with those narratives, you need to make 477 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: shift because of the law of attraction. It's this is work. 478 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: But do I hear this a lot? Yes? And do 479 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: I work in my clients to change the negative narrative 480 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: and shift it. Yes? And do they see results in 481 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: their life almost immediately? Yes, even like let's just talk 482 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: about the apps. Oh my god, the only guys that 483 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: are showing up are these creepy guys or whatever. All 484 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the good guys are taken. So we do the work 485 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: to shift that narrative and also to see like, well, 486 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: where is this coming from? Inside? Is this? Is this? Also? 487 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: I use self sabotaging because because if you do meet 488 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: a good guy, you actually might have to show up 489 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: and you might get hurt. So we do all this 490 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: work anyhow, But even if you didn't do the deep work. 491 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Let's say, but even if you just started thinking and feeling, 492 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: and that's what that's one thing I wanted to say 493 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: before that I forgot. I just want to get back 494 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: to this about just thinking. But let's say, even if 495 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: you just shifted this narrative and you and you started 496 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: believing not I wanted to present it's okay, but just 497 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: believing that there are good guys out there. And we're 498 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: talking about the apps specifically, you will see on the 499 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: apps different men show up. This happens with my clients, 500 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: I believe it, or in life at Starbucks or you 501 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: walked down the street, or because this is how this 502 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: is how everything works. The thing about the thinking that 503 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to say before you had said something that 504 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: made me think about this. You can't just think positive 505 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: or think your men into your liver, think you know, 506 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: your your person into your life. You need to feel that. 507 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: And I love talking about visualizing and living as if 508 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: it's already happening. Ye huge, So you can't just think 509 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: it and the person is going to show up your doorstep. 510 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. That that's sort of what I was 511 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: saying earlier about the self love. I totally agree with you, 512 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of things we could 513 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: say that are like, oh, yes, of course I love myself, 514 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: or you know, I did this for myself, or what 515 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: self care looks like and self love looks like. But 516 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: if you don't believe it, it will still show up 517 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: in your life that you don't believe it. Like That's 518 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: what was happening for me for many years. Was like 519 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: I was really trying to get there, but I didn't 520 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: feel it, Like there was still things happening inside of 521 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: me that needed to be healed. And so all the 522 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: relationships that I was drawing in and that was everything, 523 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: friendships work, all of it only showed how I actually 524 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: thought about myself. And until I understood the mirroring piece, 525 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't release that. You know, so I agree with you. 526 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: It's not you can't just say oh no, no, no, 527 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know there's good men out there. 528 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: It's like you have to actually start to feel it 529 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: and believe it in your body. Like someone taught me 530 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: about um the meditation piece of really like connecting to 531 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: a time in your life when you did feel truly 532 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: loved and and feeling what that feeling feels like, and 533 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: then believing that that like that is out there for 534 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: you in whatever capacity that you want it to be, 535 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: and like kind of been like manifesting the relationship that 536 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: you want from that, like how you felt and wanting 537 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: to feel that feeling. That is interestingly enough an exercise 538 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: in my book, Oh perfect, Yes, yes, and not everybody 539 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: has felt loved, maybe by a romantic relationship and their adulters, 540 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe not by their parents, but hopefully at some point 541 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: in your life you have felt what it feels like 542 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: to feel loved, even if it was from a pet 543 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: feel it doesn't matter. Yeah, Okay, let's talk about apps 544 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: for a second, because one of the things you say 545 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: in your book too was that you you're very first, 546 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: Like the very first client you mentioned in your book 547 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah about apps. I don't want to 548 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: do that. So I have that in my life a 549 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: lot too. And I have finally leaned into the apps 550 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: after many years, because it is just how you meet 551 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: people these days, Like men do not come up to 552 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: you and bars the way they used to, or it's 553 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: just not the same. And although I think we all 554 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: would love to naturally meet someone, that's the way that 555 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, the fairy tale works, and I think most 556 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: of our minds it's not that realistic. And what I 557 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: have found is that putting myself out there on the 558 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: apps changes my energy and my life completely as into 559 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: like as in what I'm welcoming into my life. And 560 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: so maybe I don't end up meeting my person on 561 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: the app, but because I'm like going through that process 562 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: opening myself up, it's opened me up energetically everywhere else. 563 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: So maybe I'm going to invite things in that I 564 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't have normally, Like do you see this a lot? 565 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Or there are a lot of people who are still 566 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: resistant to apps. Do we need to lean into apps 567 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: if we're looking for love? Talk about that a little bit. 568 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: I always say that you never want to look back 569 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: and feel like I didn't do everything I could manifest love. 570 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: So it just it can't hurt to be on the apps. 571 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: And in addition, being on the apps with the whole 572 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: mindset shift. If you think it's going to be a 573 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: bad experience, it will be. But if you think that, 574 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: if you're open to it being a good experience, then 575 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: it can be. And at the end of the day, 576 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: we talked about before how beautiful and enhanced your life 577 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: can be when you are with that right person. The 578 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, it doesn't matter how you met, 579 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: you'll just be so happy that you met that person. Yeah, 580 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: didn't you meet your husband on an app? Well, it 581 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: was two eleven, so it was before it was match 582 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: dot com the website. It wasn't even that long ago. 583 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever, Um, but yes, I so, I'm glad 584 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: you brought that up. So I met my husband and 585 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Match dot Com. I reached out to him away. I 586 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: always inspire my my female clients. I say, just reach out, 587 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: reach out to the guy. Here's the thing, because I 588 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: was thinking, maybe he hasn't even seen my profile, and 589 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: that's true, he hasn't. A lot of guys like my husband, 590 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: they don't spend that much time on the apps with websites, 591 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: then they just they don't. So I always say to 592 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: my clients, go for it, reach out, and then let 593 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: the man take it from there, you know, but at 594 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: least say like here, I am love you, and then 595 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: it's his choice. So, um, that's about being daring. Also, 596 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: it is there's so much daring and dating period. Um. 597 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: But I also hear a lot in your book and 598 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: just this process in general of manifesting like that has 599 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: a purpose. And I feel like, you know, that's my 600 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: co host on Fridays, that's his word for the year, 601 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: and I love that idea with dating is not to 602 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: just be sitting around waiting. But like you said this earlier, 603 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: like the universe matches our effort, and so if we 604 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: have a purpose and we're taking these steps and really 605 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: like stepping into it, it does seem like that should 606 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: be Matt, can you speak to that just a little bit. Absolutely. 607 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: If you think about the most successful people in this world, 608 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: they didn't get there because they didn't do anything. They 609 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't get there because they did it on their own. Either. 610 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, it takes a community, it takes mentors, it 611 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: takes intuition, it takes creativity, takes action. So It's the 612 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: same thing with manifesting love. You need to be intentional. 613 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: And in my book goes through all the steps manifesting love, 614 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: but I'll just mention some. It's being intentional, it's believing 615 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's taking the action, it's visualizing 616 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: it already happening. It's surrendering and having no attachment to 617 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: the outcome. So there, and that's why I wrote this book. 618 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: You know you asked me before. It's because there are 619 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: real things that people can do instead of feeling defeated 620 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: and and like I'm a victim, and and feeling bad 621 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: for yourself, which of course all of us have felt 622 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: as humans were humans. That's what we do. But I 623 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: really want to help people not struggle and to not 624 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: suffer anymore, and to realize there are things that you 625 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: can do, and you do need to do things to 626 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: grab onto what is already out there for you. It's 627 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: already there. People are in their own way excuses anything stories, 628 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: So just get past that and before you die, get 629 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: what is you know, grab what is waiting for you already. 630 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: I love that. Well. You have a show called Love 631 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: Talk Live, and we talked about that a little bit 632 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: what are the what can people find on Love Talk Live? 633 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: So Love Talk Live it's on l A Talk Radio. 634 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: It's also, as I said on Apple podcasts um and 635 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: I put on my Instagram lots of perhaps by the way, 636 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: Instagram is the relationship expert, but there's no e an 637 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: expert at the beginning, just a relationship letter x p 638 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: R t UM. So my show is very similar to 639 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: the stuff we've been talking about today. Most of my 640 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: guests or have some sort of spiritual base, but not all. 641 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: I've had financial analysts, I've had divorced lawyers. I really 642 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: have been doing this for almost four years, I think, 643 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: or maybe over four years. So we just we talked 644 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: about business people, I bring everything back to love. We 645 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: talked about relationships. We talk about whether it's singles, couples, breakups, 646 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: and divorces, just anything and everything that has to do 647 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: with love. Pretty much amazing. So if you guys are 648 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: looking for that, like I said, Jamie is known as 649 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: one of the number one relationship experts. I'm gonna put 650 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: all of this stuff in the description of this podcast too, 651 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: so it's easy to find for people your Instagram being 652 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: at the really aationship expert is that. I'll put the 653 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: spelling in the description, and my website is the Relationship 654 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: oxper dot Com. Just spelled that as it is perfect. 655 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: And then the book comes out February seven. So if 656 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: you guys are looking, it's the perfect of right around 657 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. If you're finding yourself alone or just wanting 658 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: to change the narrative in your dating life, this is 659 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: a great book. She really does break down there's seven 660 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: different steps to manifesting love and you give exercises for each, 661 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: which I think is so good to have, like a 662 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: tangible action step for me. That's how I learned. So 663 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: you guys can find all of that in the book. 664 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: And when the book comes out, can they just find 665 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: it anywhere? Yeah, So it's just so it's called Manifesting 666 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: Steps Up Guide to Attracting a Lot. It's meant for you. 667 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: It is being distributed by Simon and Schuster. The easiest 668 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: way to get it is on Amazon. Um if you 669 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: put in well, all the information will be on my 670 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: website of my Instagram. However, if you just go straight 671 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: to Amazon, I would recommend putting in either Manifesting and 672 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: then my name j ai Ami Brownstein. It's a little 673 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: hard because there's so many books that are called manifesting. 674 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: And then my name is spelled j I Ami not 675 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: so regardless. Go to my answergram and go to my website. 676 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: It's on Amazons, on Simon's Juster, It's on um Burnes 677 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: and Noble, something called b A m Indie Books. It's 678 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of places, basically Google. It would be 679 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: that's the answer for everything, isn't it. Oh? And also 680 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: my free gift which is seven days of I don't 681 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: know if um you were sent this yet, but I 682 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: have a free gift. The link will be there also, 683 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: which is seven days of Manifesting. They'll you got an 684 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 1: email for seven days UM so they can opt into that. Amazing. Okay, great, 685 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: what a great start, Jamie. Thank you so much for 686 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: being here and helping us to learn. I totally, like 687 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: I said, this is how I've been operating in my 688 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: dating life. So I'm glad you actually put word it's 689 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: to what I've been feeling. That always helps me to 690 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: have it verbalized. So thank you for being here with us. 691 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This is fun. Thank you guys 692 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: for listening. Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast 693 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: with Kelly Henderson, where we believe everyone has a little 694 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: velvet and a little edge. 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