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Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hunt. Thank you so much for joining.

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Speaker 1: This is a major change from what you saw with

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Speaker 1: to think it would be. The moment things turn, Let's

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Speaker 1: be let's be clear about at the moment things turned

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Speaker 1: to violence and military forces violence, the plans deteriorate, and

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Speaker 1: because we are an honorable and ethical people, we will

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Speaker 1: want to limit casualties. We want to rebuild the mess

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Speaker 1: becomes our mess. We do not want that, which means

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Speaker 1: that smart decision making now is critical, and it means

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Speaker 1: that pushing those in power to make those intelligent decisions

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Speaker 1: about this process and to stand on principle and to

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Speaker 1: do what is necessary now is so critical. The decisions

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Speaker 1: we make now, the decisions that the Trump administration is

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Speaker 1: making about North Korea, could determine whether or not someone

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Speaker 1: listening to this show in Kansas, in Washington, in Florida,

445
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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, you name it, spends their time deployed in

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Speaker 1: and around the Korean peninsula in five years or tending.

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Speaker 1: We just we don't know, but the decisions have that

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Speaker 1: kind of weight that kind of impact. All right, t J?

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Speaker 1: T J? Is is he in South Korea? We've got

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Speaker 1: somebody calling in from South Korea. He's on the I

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Speaker 1: heart op t J. How you doing, I'm doing well?

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Speaker 1: Buck Field Time, Field Time man, Thank you. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know we had somebody on the international squad calling in.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it absolutely, long time listener, big fan, loving

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Speaker 1: the show. But thank you. M Yeah calling South Korea here, Uh,

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Speaker 1: serving the army in another life, but here is a

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Speaker 1: civilian to the last twenty years now and live in

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Speaker 1: northwest Sel. We're about thirty kilometers for the d m IS.

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Speaker 1: If I climb the local mountain here you can see

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Speaker 1: on the horizon. But the reason I'm calling is where

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Speaker 1: we had an impast with negotiations. It's obviously a tough negotiation.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that people are unwilling to

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Speaker 1: put on the table as far as bargaining chips. The

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Speaker 1: US won't accept the nuclear North Korea. North Korea is

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Speaker 1: never going to give up their nuclear weapons through any

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Speaker 1: kind of economic pressure. Uh. And Imprutin put it pretty

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Speaker 1: well when he said the lead, grass and bark, that's

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Speaker 1: where they'll give anything up and it's it's such a

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Speaker 1: cult of personality up there, the people who will do

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Speaker 1: anything they're asked. Um China is that the only one

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Speaker 1: that I think it has something we can offer them there.

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Speaker 1: They're never going to They need the buffer of North

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Speaker 1: Korea for security reasons. They will never accept a unified

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Speaker 1: peninsula with US forces on the peninsula. And the last

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Speaker 1: part of that, I think is the niche that we

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Speaker 1: can wiggles and negotiating room. And and that question for

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Speaker 1: you is is an offer to China quick pro quo

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Speaker 1: uh reunified North Korea, a reunified Korea under the South

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Speaker 1: Korean government acceptable to China with the promise of a

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Speaker 1: removal of all US forces from peninsula. And I know

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Speaker 1: that sounds like we're surrendering something, but I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we've got to give something. We can protect South

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Speaker 1: Korea from China or unified peninsula from any Chinese aggression,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think would happen because of the strengthening

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Speaker 1: economical trade between the two. But the peninsula can remain

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Speaker 1: underneath a US nuclear umbrella of protection, but remove the

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Speaker 1: forces removed that and you know, shut down the bases

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Speaker 1: and pull people back to Okinawa um and other bases

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Speaker 1: in the Pacific, but removed the presence from the peninsula itself.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very interesting question. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's taking a real grand strategy approached everything going on

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Speaker 1: on the Korean Peninsula and in the region. And I

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Speaker 1: would like to think that there would be because look,

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Speaker 1: the best case scenario here. Let let's take it from

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Speaker 1: this perspective. As I see, the best case scenario is

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Speaker 1: you have uh, some means of leveraging China to get

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Speaker 1: North Korea to start uh, you know, limiting its missiles

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Speaker 1: and and actually start to de nuclearize. That's what this

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Speaker 1: is all about. That's the official policy now of the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration. North Korea has to de nuclearize. Um. Now,

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Speaker 1: when I say best case scenario, I don't see this

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Speaker 1: as likely, and I get the sense from you as

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Speaker 1: well that that's not that's really just not on the

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Speaker 1: tail from North Korea. But maybe something will change, Maybe

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Speaker 1: something will give so Dean a dean nuclearized North Korea,

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Speaker 1: and then we'd have to go through a series of

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Speaker 1: confidence building measures whereby there was a liberalization of North

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Speaker 1: Korean politics, which it can't be any more hard line

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Speaker 1: and authoritarian than it is. Right, it's literally, I think impossible.

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Speaker 1: So you'd have to start having that happened, and you'd

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Speaker 1: have to play this out, I think, for many years,

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Speaker 1: and it would have to be phased and step by step.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, could we get there to to actually

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Speaker 1: answer your question, I think it's theoretically possible. I think

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Speaker 1: it's very unlikely as a matter of percentages, but I

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Speaker 1: do think it's theoretically possible that you could have a

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Speaker 1: a Chinese acceptance of a denuclearized I don't even what

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Speaker 1: would the government be, right, mean, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have They're so far from having elections. They don't

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Speaker 1: even have sham elections. Right. This is you know, usually

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about authoritarian regimes, you've got a guy

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Speaker 1: that gets of the quote vote in North Korea. It's

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Speaker 1: like he's he's like the god king boy. Right, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really doesn't really apply. Go ahead. I think they

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Speaker 1: have the power equivalent with the poloper gives him a

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Speaker 1: voted consents. Yeah, yeah, no, but I mean the people.

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Speaker 1: The people don't vote. There's no pretense of the people voting.

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Speaker 1: It's the revolution are a committee, which is like I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, right, a bunch of dudes in a room,

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Speaker 1: so um. But no, that's a very interesting question because

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Speaker 1: what part of this is what is acceptable for North Korea?

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Speaker 1: And then and then t J it's what is acceptable

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Speaker 1: for China. And those are two aspects that you have

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Speaker 1: to balance to get a sense of where the long

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Speaker 1: term strategy has to be. And I do not well,

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Speaker 1: I don't go ahead. I don't think that North Korea

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Speaker 1: continuing to exist as a country is is a viable

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see any way out of that

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Speaker 1: without it going connectic some somewhere down the road. You know,

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Speaker 1: people always ask, you know, how is it living in

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Speaker 1: Soul you are to worry about, you know, war breaking out.

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Speaker 1: I always draw the analogy of it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: somebody living in Los Angeles waiting for the big one,

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Speaker 1: and in the difference, being in Los Angeles, you know

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Speaker 1: it's going to come eventually, you just don't know. When

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Speaker 1: living in Soul, there's a chance it might never happen.

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Speaker 1: Where in Los Angeles with the big, big earthquake is

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Speaker 1: you don't have that luxury going to happen. Sometimes it

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Speaker 1: might be a thousand years. That is going to happen

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Speaker 1: in in with the North Korean situation, there's a chance

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Speaker 1: that it might never happen. Yeah, well we will see.

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Speaker 1: I look at I hope that's the case. We've gotten

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Speaker 1: to the point now, though I think that that's not

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Speaker 1: true anymore. As Master said, we've we've run out of road.

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Speaker 1: It's the status quo remains in. North Korea is a

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Speaker 1: viable country with me to their weapons, and we don't

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Speaker 1: find a negotiating way out of this. I just I

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Speaker 1: see the United States at this point going Connecticut at

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Speaker 1: some point. All right, t J. Thank you for service,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for the great call. T J. Colern

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Speaker 1: from South Korea listening on the I Heart opens all

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Speaker 1: isn't that awesome? And listeners in South Korea listens are

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Speaker 1: all over the world. Actually it's pretty cool. Um, all right, team,

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Speaker 1: we'll uh, we'll get into this some more, and I

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Speaker 1: might do a little bit of a detour into some

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Speaker 1: missile defense history if I can, And then we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about the Facebook ads being turned over to UH having

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Speaker 1: to do with the Russia stuff, Russia collusion investigation and

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Speaker 1: then unmasking and where that story stands. The surveillance of

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration that occurred, or the Trump campaign that

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Speaker 1: that occurred and everyone is now admitting occurred. I would

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Speaker 1: just note that this is a thought that I want

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Speaker 1: to put out there, and I'll return to it. If

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Speaker 1: no one is charged with all this Russia investigation stuff,

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Speaker 1: how do they justify all of the surveillance that was

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Speaker 1: going on of Trump and his associates. I think that's

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Speaker 1: as much as the political pressure. There's a tremendous pressure

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Speaker 1: for some kind of prosecution because they used all these tools,

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Speaker 1: and in some cases tools that are counterintelligence tools that

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Speaker 1: rely on the discretion of the executive branch of you know,

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Speaker 1: FBI and other agencies. Uh, they were using these tools

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Speaker 1: that if they don't, if nothing comes of them, well

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Speaker 1: what are we to think of that? Right? If there

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Speaker 1: was wire tapping going on and no one actually is

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Speaker 1: charged with anything, well does that mean what are we

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Speaker 1: supposed to make of that? So I think that this is, uh,

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Speaker 1: this is something we have to take a look at. All. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run to a break your team. We will

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Speaker 1: be right back. Let me share with you a vision

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Speaker 1: of the future which offers hope. It is that we

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Speaker 1: embark on a program to counter the awesome Soviet missile

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Speaker 1: threat with measures that are defensive. Let us turn to

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Speaker 1: the very strengths in technology that spawned our great industrial

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Speaker 1: base and that have given us the quality of life

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Speaker 1: we enjoy today. What if free people could live secure

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Speaker 1: in the knowledge that their security did not rest upon

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Speaker 1: the threat of instant u S retaliation to deter a

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Speaker 1: Soviet attack, that we could intersect and destroy strategic ballistic

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Speaker 1: missiles before they reached our own soil or that of

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Speaker 1: our allies. That was President Ronald Reagan back in March three,

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Speaker 1: in what I should note the press derided as his

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Speaker 1: Star Wars speech. He was speaking about what became known

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Speaker 1: as the Strategic Defense Initiative, the ability to shoot down

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Speaker 1: missiles in flight. This was at the time, uh the

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Speaker 1: consensus opinion, that consensus foreign policy opinion was outraged because

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Speaker 1: they thought it was better to live in a world

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Speaker 1: where America was going to get destroyed and the Soviet

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Speaker 1: Union would get destroyed, mutually assured destruction. They thought that

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Speaker 1: was the best possible the best possible situation. Reagan said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it would be better if the Soviets

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Speaker 1: couldn't destroy us. How about that, Maybe we should go

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Speaker 1: in that direction. Oh no, he's a warmonger. They said,

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Speaker 1: he'll do he'll he'll bring us to to destruction. You know,

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Speaker 1: in a matter of years the Soviet Union collapsed. But

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Speaker 1: I should also note that Reagan's idea of being able

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Speaker 1: to shoot down missiles in flight is what was the

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Speaker 1: beginning of a change in theory, of a change in

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Speaker 1: government approach to this that led to what now It

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Speaker 1: was someone mentioned fad before and general high altitude defense

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Speaker 1: being able to shoot missiles out of the sky. At

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Speaker 1: least we have the possibility of that backstop if Kim

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Speaker 1: Jong un does get the ability to put a nuclear

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Speaker 1: missile UH in flight and I CBM that could hit us,

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Speaker 1: that could hit the US homeland. But you know, they

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Speaker 1: made fun of Reagan for this at the time, and

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Speaker 1: I should note that it was because of his change

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Speaker 1: in thinking, his willingness to be bold and to be

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Speaker 1: a visionary, that put us on the pathway to at

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Speaker 1: least have a prayer today of shooting down a nuke

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Speaker 1: in flight if it comes to that. So we can

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Speaker 1: all thank Reagan still for a good night's sleep. Welcome back, team,

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Speaker 1: to have you here with me in the Freedom Huts.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna finish up our discussion with North Korea and

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Speaker 1: then get into, uh, what's going on with the Muller investigation,

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Speaker 1: and also Facebook turning over it's uh, Facebook turning over

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Speaker 1: information about Russian bots, you know, fake accounts, suck puppets

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00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: another another cool term for them, uh, where people create

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Speaker 1: social media profiles that are fake and then they try

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Speaker 1: to influence discussions or whatever it may be. But eight

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Speaker 1: four or four nine buck eight four four eight to five,

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Speaker 1: if you want to call in. Before I get to

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Speaker 1: a call or two here, I just want to note

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Speaker 1: that when I played that speech for you from IDNY

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Speaker 1: three where Reagan talked about ending this doctrine of yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: let's just live in a world where the Soviets could

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Speaker 1: destroy us, but we could destroy them too, because that's

647
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Speaker 1: that's the way to be. That's the best possible scenario.

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Speaker 1: And because of that change, and then the fall of

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union and then the Clinton administration signed on

650
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Speaker 1: for its own version of of missile defense, and now

651
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Speaker 1: we're actually a place where we can at least hope

652
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Speaker 1: to have the capability to shoot down something in flight.

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Speaker 1: But that was a change, and that was a change

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Speaker 1: in policy and perspective from Reagan. So when you have

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Speaker 1: now turn mineral high altitude area defense that it is called,

656
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Speaker 1: this was a long time coming. And there were people

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Speaker 1: that initially the intelligentsia, the media, I'm sure plenty of

658
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Speaker 1: think tankers, they didn't want this. They didn't want and

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Speaker 1: oh no, this is bad. This is a provocation. To

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Speaker 1: be able to shoot missiles out of the sky, to

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Speaker 1: be able to neutralize the nukes of a madman or

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Speaker 1: of a totalitarian despot, or whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 1: That's a provocation. And this is how I think it's ABC.

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Speaker 1: ABC News talked about it. Then US in saying the

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Speaker 1: US should build defensive and not offensive weapons, the president

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Speaker 1: is proposing what nuclear planners have rejected for years. The

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Speaker 1: anti ballistic missile or a b M was scrapped by

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Speaker 1: Washington in the nineteen seventies precisely because it might work.

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Speaker 1: Why because if either side felt safe from attack, that

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Speaker 1: made nuclear war more acceptable and they'refore more probable. Reagan

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Speaker 1: was going again the conventional wisdom, and in that sense,

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Speaker 1: they were like, you know, this guy's he's he's provoking.

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Speaker 1: Reagan's a warmonger, he's provoking or he's defeating the Soviet

674
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Speaker 1: Union one or the other, and history tells us what

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Speaker 1: the answer to that was. Uh, guy in Mississippi on

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Speaker 1: w j d X, Hey guy, he little buck. Uh mute,

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Speaker 1: something I got going here? Sure what radio show? Take

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Speaker 1: your time? I got on all those things? Uh? This

679
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Speaker 1: North Korea situation I read recently there's a Doomsday twenty

680
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Speaker 1: two satellite orbiting the Earth that uses the Sun's power

681
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Speaker 1: that could be used. I did not know it exists.

682
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Speaker 1: That is it real? That could be used to strike

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Speaker 1: targets on the on the planet at the flick of

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Speaker 1: a switch, is it now? I've never I've never heard

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Speaker 1: and I never heard anything like that. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: something from a Superman movie. Though, well, uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I haven't heard of it. But then again,

688
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that I was never read into and don't

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Speaker 1: know about, you know what I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've never never heard of this thing before. Right, all right,

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Speaker 1: my friend, thank you, so sorry. I'm sorry I can't

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Speaker 1: give you more on that one. But that sounds cool

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Speaker 1: be able to I'm pretty sure in one of those Uh,

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Speaker 1: what do you what do you what do you call

696
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Speaker 1: those turn based strategy games where you you know, Civilization

697
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Speaker 1: was the original one, which I talked about the show before,

698
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Speaker 1: But there was one uce to play where you would

699
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Speaker 1: like mine or and then you'd build like, you know,

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Speaker 1: tanks and things and you'd fight other people and you

701
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Speaker 1: can play online anyway. Obviously I should have gotten out

702
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: a little more for a while there, but I played

703
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Speaker 1: this game a lot. I can't remember what it's called though,

704
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: but they had some satellite where you could like just

705
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Speaker 1: blow up somebody else's, you know, their main factory, and

706
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: that was always cool. That was always exciting. But I've

707
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Speaker 1: never heard of this of the of anything other than that.

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Speaker 1: So um with that, uh oh, one more one more

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Speaker 1: thing here, um, just the role of Japan and South

710
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Speaker 1: Korea and all this and the diplomacy of the administration.

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00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Here's what NICKI Haley said earlier today. Today we met

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Speaker 1: with our allies Japan and South Korea. Obviously a lot

713
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Speaker 1: to talk about with North Korea, and so we had

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Speaker 1: good conversations with them, and the President reassured obviously Japan

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Speaker 1: and South Korea, but they also talked about strategies going

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Speaker 1: forward for North Korea. This administration came in and received

717
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Speaker 1: as much criticism for the lack of foreign policy background

718
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: of President Trump as as almost anything else. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they hated him more because you know, fascist, nazi, racist, xenophobe,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, But they also really criticized them heavily.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of smug a lot of smug panel

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Speaker 1: discussions on TAVA. Oh, Donald Trump doesn't know anything about

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Speaker 1: foreign policy. Well, if he manages to make real headway

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Speaker 1: in this North Korea crisis, and it is a crisis,

725
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Speaker 1: it's a slow moving crisis, but it's something that will

726
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Speaker 1: not resolve itself and will only get worse if he

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Speaker 1: manages to uh turn this thing into a different phase.

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Speaker 1: And if he were even if I go as so

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Speaker 1: far so far as I say, let's say within eight

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Speaker 1: years of a Trump presidency, you know, hey, maybe it'll

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Speaker 1: happen he gets North Korea to agree to denuclearization. Um,

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Speaker 1: that would be the the biggest diplomatic victory in my

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Speaker 1: uh certainly in my adult lifetime that I could think of.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else would come close.

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Speaker 1: That would be huge. And Trump is putting in place

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Speaker 1: right now. I think the levers, the mechanisms, the pieces

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Speaker 1: necessary to achieve that. It would seem to be ironic

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Speaker 1: that on the on the issue of national security specifically,

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Speaker 1: which he received so much criticism for. I know, people

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Speaker 1: say Buck Obama had no national security back round either. Yeah,

741
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Speaker 1: but he sounded, you know, during prepared speeches. He sounded

742
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Speaker 1: to people that think they know about this stuff like

743
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: he knew stuff too. So it was okay, But Trump's

744
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: going on his instincts here. He sees a bully, he

745
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: sees a problem, and if he fixed, if he fixes this, uh,

746
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: this could be this, you know, at least on national security.

747
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: I still think immigration on the wall has got to

748
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Speaker 1: be centralty administration. But on the national security side, this

749
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: would be an enormous win. And look, it will be

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Speaker 1: It's not just about oh, you know who's up and

751
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: down in the polls. This would be great for humanity

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Speaker 1: if he is able to push for a denuclearization of

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Speaker 1: the of North Korea and and open a new chapter

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Speaker 1: where it's gonna take time. Okay, there's North Korea, the

755
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: whole regimes guilty of war crime. So this is not

756
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Speaker 1: like we're gonna all shake hands and be friends anytime soon.

757
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: But if he is able to turn this thing around UM,

758
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Speaker 1: or at least get it pointing in a different direction,

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Speaker 1: it will show that the decades of conventional wisdom of

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00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: the smart, foggy bottom diplomat set I wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: accomplish what leadership, clear thinking and a principal stand was.

762
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Speaker 1: So that's that is a possible outcome here. There's also

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Speaker 1: there's also the chance that this thing goes off the

764
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Speaker 1: rails and gets really ugly and bad, really fast. I

765
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Speaker 1: don't know which is gonna happen, but I do know

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Speaker 1: that they are making it as clear as they can

767
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: right now that status quo is unacceptable. So we'll have

768
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Speaker 1: to see where it goes. That's what I've got for

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Speaker 1: you on North Korea today. We'll talk a bit about

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Speaker 1: Facebook and Russia, and I also this was kind of

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Speaker 1: a late addition. I was talking to h to Tyrone

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Speaker 1: about this in the break, UM, I might want to

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Speaker 1: discuss with you a little bit of uh. Look, this

774
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: is I don't follow sports that closely, but I know

775
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Speaker 1: about the Aaron Hernandez case, and they've done a uh

776
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: an autopsy and he had very serious brain deterioration. Now

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: I know he was a convicted murderer, and he committed

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Speaker 1: suicide in prison. And so when you think of Aaron

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Speaker 1: hernann as, you think of a brutal murderer who was

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Speaker 1: killing people. But he well, I think I think this

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00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: is worth a discussion here because this traumatic brain injury

782
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Speaker 1: or it's part of me, it's not. It's not t

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Speaker 1: b I um, which I wasn't trying to say that

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Speaker 1: it was. But this this trauma to the brain, which

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Speaker 1: is called CTE chronic traumatic and cephalopathy. He is not

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Speaker 1: the only one who has it, and he is not

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Speaker 1: the only one that is going to be carrying or

788
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Speaker 1: was carrying the symptoms around with him on a day

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Speaker 1: to day basis. So the implications for football for the

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Speaker 1: NFL are very serious, I think, and and more to

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Speaker 1: the point of our discussion, perhaps, um, what this means

792
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: for some contact sports for those of you who are

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00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: applying yourself or who have kids who want to play.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's I may get there. If I don't

795
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: get there today, I'll probably get there tomorrow on our

796
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: on our Friday show. Um. But it's my way of said,

797
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: we've got and then I want to talk to about immigration. Uh,

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00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: get a little bit into the latest of the Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Kimmel saga. He's being mean. No surprise there. And then

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Speaker 1: some team Buck speaks. I've got a lot of messages

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Speaker 1: coming in that I wanted to share with you from

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00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: the folks listening. So we've got that and more coming up.

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00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: Stay with me. Okay, So Buck sex in her team,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. A fake Russian Facebook accounts bought a hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars in political ads. That was the story from

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Speaker 1: like a week ago New York Times. Everyone's like, whoa, oh, no, Russia.

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Speaker 1: They are destroying our election integrity. They're making it so hard,

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Speaker 1: so difficult for us to know the truth from the fake.

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Speaker 1: Uh but Russia, Russia, Russia. Here we go. And now

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Speaker 1: they have Facebook turning over Russian linked ads to Congress. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just with the I used to

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00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: find the girl from politics. Um, so they let me

813
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: just give you a little bit of the background from

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Speaker 1: this time story and then I'll tell you what I

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Speaker 1: think is going on here. Under growing public pressure to

816
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Speaker 1: reveal more about the spread of covert Russian propaganda on

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Speaker 1: its site, Facebook set on Thursday that I was turning

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Speaker 1: over more than three thousand Russia linked ads to congressional

819
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Speaker 1: committees investigating the Kremlin's influence operation during the presidential election.

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Speaker 1: I care deeply about the democratic process and protecting its integrity,

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Speaker 1: um Mark Zuckerberg said during an appearance on Facebook Live.

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Speaker 1: He added he did not want anyone to use our

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Speaker 1: tools to undermine democracy. Uh what, what do people really

824
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Speaker 1: think is the solution here? I just want to start

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Speaker 1: with that before I get into how this is just

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Speaker 1: the the the obsession here continues. I spent countless hours

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Speaker 1: during the election, uh, reading looking on social media, is

828
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Speaker 1: trying to see everything I could left and right, center, crazy,

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Speaker 1: Green Party, Bernie you know, bernicetas everything right. I never

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Speaker 1: once saw like this, a Russian political ad that I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at that. I didn't see one,

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Speaker 1: and if I had, I would have been like, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: you know there's that. Who cares? Who cares? But even

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Speaker 1: before I get into the there's there's the lack of

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Speaker 1: impact aspect of the discussion, which is that they want

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Speaker 1: to talk about a campaign here to quote undermine democracy.

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Speaker 1: They're undermining democracy. They want to talk about that, um,

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Speaker 1: And I want to discuss how that's just nonsensical. But

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Speaker 1: then There's also the other aspect of this that I

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Speaker 1: want to actually go to first, which is, so, what

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Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Are we going to create an

842
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Speaker 1: Internet where you you can't access sights from other countries?

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00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: Are we gonna do what the Chinese have done, which

844
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Speaker 1: is have a what the great the Great Firewall of

845
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Speaker 1: China where they don't allow certain information in and out

846
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Speaker 1: on the net. What is supposed to be the solution

847
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Speaker 1: here to Russia wanting to put fake crap up on Facebook?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and before I just before we get to

849
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Speaker 1: like who cares about fake Russia stuff? On faith? And

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Speaker 1: I'll get into some of those numbers in a second too.

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Speaker 1: What do we think this? People keep saying we need

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Speaker 1: to do this so that it never happens again, We

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Speaker 1: need to protect our democracy. How are we going to

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Speaker 1: protect our democracy from people saying stuff that's not true

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Speaker 1: on the internet? I mean, the Russians during the Soviet

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Speaker 1: era were running all kinds of newspapers, and they had

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Speaker 1: sympathetic journalists in this country that we're doing all kinds

858
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Speaker 1: of stuff to help them. If you have another book,

859
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm thrown out there for you. If you have not

860
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Speaker 1: read Whittaker Chambers witness talking about his time as a

861
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Speaker 1: commune is in his time, uh spent trying to help

862
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union and the Communist Party, while you know

863
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: in American in this country and a writer, um witnesses

864
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Speaker 1: one of the most important English language books of the

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Speaker 1: twentieth century up there with and a few others that

866
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Speaker 1: come to mind. I highly recommend it to you. But

867
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Speaker 1: what are we going to do. Let's assume that this

868
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Speaker 1: is this insidious, evil campaign of Russian democracy undermining who

869
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: don't don't really like democracy, so we're going to undermine it.

870
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Speaker 1: We're going to like sell it for a very cheap price. Uh,

871
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: what are we to do? How do we separate this out?

872
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: There's no answer to this, which they don't want to

873
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: talk about because they want to keep any hearings on.

874
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, arm Mr Chairman, or can we talk more

875
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: about the Russia influence online campaign? You had a hundred

876
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Speaker 1: and twenty million plus votes cast in this country. Uh.

877
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: Some Facebook ads here and there, But I'm already going

878
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: to the impact part of it. I keep drifting back

879
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: towards impact, but I also want to what's the solution start?

880
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: I think it's more fun in some ways to start there.

881
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: So what what are we gonna do. We're gonna hold

882
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: all these carrings and and say what, oh, we're gonna

883
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Facebook and probably Twitter and all these

884
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: other deeply progressive internet b e myths. I should add, right,

885
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna have the Googles, the facebooks, and the twitters

886
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: of the world pushed by the government. So it's not

887
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: even their fault. It's like not even their funk bro, like,

888
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: is gonna make is They're gonna make them, uh start

889
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: two take action to police content online, to police the

890
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: political speech online, right to what and there are By

891
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: the way, this has already been going on, And I'm

892
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: shocked at the naivete of some folks out there in

893
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: the conservative media as well. We're like, oh, yeah, you know,

894
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: there's no problem Facebook that they would never they would

895
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: never stack the deck against conservatives. Really, it would be

896
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: a shock to me if they weren't doing that, I

897
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: assume and I have always assumed that they're doing that.

898
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: The rest of the media does it. What what do

899
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: you think Mark Zuckerberg is like it really likes conservatism

900
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: And there's no transparency here at all, at least with

901
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, at least with Dan Rather you saw him

902
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: on the screen, you knew who he was, and you

903
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: know you can attach the words. And with Facebook, it's

904
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: whatever just pops up in your feed man, it's just

905
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: what happens the algorithm. So we now are in a

906
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: in a place where the government is pushing the government

907
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: is pushing these massive internet companies to take actions that

908
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: will inherently allow them to veto speech. They don't like,

909
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: to elevate speech they do, like they're saying, be the

910
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: speech police on these social media networks. Use your vast

911
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: power to determine what's accepted one what's not. You don't

912
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: think this is Oh, there's gonna be hate speech regulations,

913
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: there's gonna be you know, terms of service violations and

914
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And it's really difficult to even know

915
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: how much of it's going on. So start with that.

916
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: There's no solution to this problem of oh, look, Russia

917
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: is buying stuff. Oh no, Russia has saying mean things

918
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: about Hill. This is what this comes down to. People

919
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: were making fake accounts to say mean things about Hillary online.

920
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: I want to send the Senate Committee or whatever, you know,

921
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: some comments about what people used to say about me

922
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: when I go on CNN, Like, mean comments about people

923
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: happen all the time. Lies, mean comments, That's just reality.

924
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: But then you get into it, and this is the

925
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: other part of the discussion, the impact. Right, So I

926
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: talked about the sol water or the the the what

927
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: do we do about it? Now, let's get into the

928
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: impact uh Facebook that they're talking about fifty tho a

929
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars of an ad by uh. If a

930
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, I mean both sides spent billions in

931
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: this last election cycle. If a hundred thousand dollars could

932
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: determine the winner of the presidential election, that is a

933
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: level of genius that we just should automatically respect. Right

934
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: If if spending a hundred grand on Facebook ads could

935
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: cost one side or other the election, what do we

936
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: need all these consultants and these massive media complexes for.

937
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: They're they're talking about fifty dollars of ads on Facebook.

938
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Speaker 1: Facebook is making, to give you a sense of scale, here,

939
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: literally billions of dollars a quarter on on advertising revenue

940
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: it is making in the billions. Fifty dollars barely even

941
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: registers as a blip on the screen. But we're going

942
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: to have all this time devoted to looking into whether

943
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: into what that there were some sock puppets that we're

944
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: talking about Hillary and pizza Gate or something. But what

945
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: do we what do they really think they're going to find?

946
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: And the answer is this. The answer is forcing the UH,

947
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Speaker 1: forcing those of us who don't bind to the Russian

948
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: narrative to have to play defense and allowing those who

949
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: are obsessed with this, who are obsessed with rewriting history

950
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: and in fact, in their minds, writing history by pretending

951
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: that the Trump victory never happened, that Hillary was cheated,

952
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: that she really that she's really the president. That's what

953
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: when you really boil all this down, Hillary is the president.

954
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: Trump is an impostor. Trump is an impostor president. That's

955
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: why we have to have these discussions about Facebook ads

956
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: and fifty grand. Right, billions of millions spent on Facebook,

957
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: but the Russians were able to spend fifty grand on

958
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: some bots that what does this even mean? I mean,

959
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: it's it is nonsensible. This is just a bizarre obsession.

960
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: It is just an emotional impulse that the Left refuses

961
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: to let go of, and Congress is in on it.

962
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: To the media is in on it. It's not gonna

963
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: stop anytime soon. Uh. Let's talk a little unmasking and

964
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Speaker 1: then I do want to talk about this, uh, this

965
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: brain injury issue in football. You've got Ned Ryan on

966
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: the on. He is founder and CEO of American Majority Action.

967
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: He's a former presidential writer for George W. Bush. Is

968
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: not great to have you back. Good to be back

969
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: with you back. Let's talk unmasking and the politics at

970
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: work here. My friend, I saw you put out on Twitter.

971
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Quote I said from almost day one that the Obama

972
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: unmasking scandal could make Watergate, Nixon, and the Plumbers look

973
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: like amateur small ball end quote. Quite a statement, sir,

974
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: Tell me about what you think is going on here? Yeah, No,

975
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I said that pretty much the day of broke. I

976
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: was on I think it was on with Trish Reagan

977
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: on on Fox Business and said, based off everything I've

978
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: seen with the Obama administration, their abuse of power, this

979
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: looks to me as though they have weaponized governments against

980
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: opposing political party and opponents. And you know when you

981
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: see Samantha Power unmasked head over two hundred and sixty

982
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: unmasking incidents in twenty sixteen alone, It really does strike

983
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: me that they were using the power of the state,

984
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: the power of government against opposing political UH party. And

985
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: so you know, when when you realize what they have

986
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: done and weaponizing government against those that opposed them, I

987
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: think it makes Watergate look like almost a nothing boger. Um.

988
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: So that to me is I think you're going to

989
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: see more and more of this come out in which

990
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: you understand the Obama administration abuse power uh and was

991
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: was using in a way that was never intended to

992
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: be used. Yeah. I mean Samantha Power was US Ambassador

993
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: to the United Nations on Earth. Yeah, well, what is

994
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: she doing? This is this is a great mystery to me.

995
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: And that's when you know, again you saw I did

996
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: a couple tweets today on this. Why on earth? What

997
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: are you in, ambassador need to be involved in unmasking?

998
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: What possible reason could she have in requesting over two

999
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty times for American citizens to be unmasked? Um,

1000
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: it makes no sense to me. And then it starts

1001
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 1: again tie back into what I thought day one. These

1002
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: people were abusing power, had nothing to do with intelligence gathering,

1003
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: had everything to do with abuse of power, and weaponizing

1004
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: government against their opponent. And I think it's it's quite

1005
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: a stretch to to suggest that it's a coincidence that

1006
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: two of the people at the center of this surveillance

1007
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: and unmasking scandal are Samantha Power and Susan Rice, who

1008
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: are the among the most politicized of national security officials

1009
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: of a very politicized administration when it comes to national security.

1010
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: And and don't leave out Ben Rhodes, don't leave out

1011
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: Ben Rhodes, because I think when we start to uncover

1012
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: more of what actually took place book, I think you're

1013
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: going to see the name of Ben Rhodes, who was

1014
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: Susan Rice's deputy um and and his involvement in this

1015
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: as well, so you know, and again John Brennan, John

1016
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: Brennan was subpoenaed um in this unmasking scandal as well.

1017
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: So I think the more we continue to polk thread,

1018
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: and this is one of the things that I said

1019
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: back last spring, I hope that Republicans in the House

1020
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: and the Senate will not stop the will continue to

1021
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: pull a string on this and see where it leads.

1022
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: And I think it's going to lead to very interesting places.

1023
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of Ned Ryan he's founder and CEO of American

1024
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: Majority Action. Um, now I want to switch gears for

1025
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: a second to the state of the healthcare bill and

1026
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: the healthcare debate. Yeah, I know, I get ready. Uh

1027
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about this? I mean,

1028
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: they got Graham Cassidy. They're saying it's going to the States.

1029
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: Of course, The New York Times and others are saying

1030
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: this is the most extreme every time we probably gonna

1031
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: try to do anything, no matter how small, a tinkering

1032
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: around the edges of the billet, maybe around Obamacare. It's

1033
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: it's the most extreme. You know, throw granny out in

1034
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: the cold with no health care, healthcare, healthcare bill imaginal, imaginable. Yeah,

1035
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna die because of this. But what do you

1036
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: see as as the uh as the first of all,

1037
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: the likelihood of this thing actually getting done into you know,

1038
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: what do you think of it? So I might have

1039
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: a few thoughts on this. Block wrote a piece on

1040
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: this yesterday in which I equated the Graham Cassidy bill

1041
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: to a hot a bowl of lukewarm gruel. But I said,

1042
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: when confronted with a bowl of lent versus a bowl

1043
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: of lukewarm gruel, take the lukewarm gruel. And that's what

1044
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: Graham crat Grand Cassidy is. It's not full repeal, you know,

1045
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: and I made this point on that oup ed book.

1046
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: We were promised full repeal, which is a stake, and

1047
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: instead we've been slid across this bowl of gruel. But

1048
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: take it. And the reason I'm saying take it is

1049
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: because I am deeply concerned as you see Bernie Sanders

1050
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: and the rest of these people really starting to push

1051
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: single payer. When you see that almost sevent Democrats now

1052
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: believe that single payer is an acceptable approach to healthcare,

1053
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: we have to start dismantling that Frankenstein known as Obamacare.

1054
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: And I explained in this op ed, you know, at

1055
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: least Graham Cassidy repeals the individual and employer mandate. At

1056
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: least it does put block grants back to the states

1057
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: and actually makes federalism real instead of a fiction. Uh.

1058
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: It repeals the medical device tax and over the counter

1059
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: tax as well, so there's some positives. At the same time,

1060
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Speaker 1: that leaves a lot of the Obamacare taxes in. And

1061
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: you and I both known a lot of people that

1062
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Speaker 1: have been involved in politics. No taxes never die. And

1063
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Speaker 1: if you don't kill him now. We're probably still gonna

1064
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: be talking about some of these Obamacare taxes years from now,

1065
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: and so that's one of my greatest frustrations at the

1066
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: same time understanding the reality of what we're confronting. If

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Speaker 1: we don't start dismantling Obamacare now in some way former fashion,

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: this might be one of our last legitimate shots to

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Speaker 1: do it. So I'm encouraging people as much as I

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Speaker 1: hate it. As much as we were promised steak and

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01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: we're being given gruel, take the grule. And if we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about steak versus steak versus gruel, um, I

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Speaker 1: have to also ask you about Trump and DOCCA. Here's

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: my thing, and I also wrote about this. If if

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: we are going to put doctor, where'd you right about it?

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01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: You're telling us about your op eds? People might want

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Speaker 1: to go check it out. People go you can check

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Speaker 1: out the op ed on DOCCA and on Graham Cassidy

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Speaker 1: at the Hill dot com. I've written those op eds

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Speaker 1: there might on this buck was if we're going to

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: put DOCCA on the table, Trump has too in return,

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: say I will get funding for the wall first, you

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01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: will give me a legitimate tax reform, and I will

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: get some form of healthcare reform, and then we can

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Speaker 1: talk DOCCA. But he cannot give away DOCA without something

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01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: with not just one thing, not two things, but he

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01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: has to get I think three things in return for it.

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01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,439
Speaker 1: And at that point, I would say, take that deal.

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Speaker 1: As much as I think that people have come in illegally,

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01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: as much as I think that they are not here,

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01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: they did not come in the right fashion. If we

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Speaker 1: can get three of those very legitimate things again, building

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Speaker 1: the wall being a very real way in which we

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Speaker 1: reform immigration, Okay, take the deal. So my concern when

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Speaker 1: he first came out on that DOCTAH, the DOCTA situation

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01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: was do not give it away unless you get something

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Speaker 1: in return and the proper order and all of that

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Speaker 1: buck is funding for the wall, tax reform, health care reform,

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Speaker 1: and then DOCCA. When are you running? So? Buck is?

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Speaker 1: You know I had a dad in Congress for ten years.

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: I have seen the sausage factory up close with four

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Speaker 1: little kids. Uh, you're running. You're just running after your

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01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: four kids to make sure they stay out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: I get it. You don't want to be fair. Let's

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01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: let's say when my kids are growing up. I'll think

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Speaker 1: about it seriously, all right, Ned Ryan Everybody, founder and

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Speaker 1: CEO of American Majority Action. He's also a presidential writer

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01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: for George W. Bush. Check out his latest pieces on

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Speaker 1: the Hill dot com. Not great to have you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Uh, Team, I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about this piece on brain injuries in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll talk immigration in the next hour and

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Speaker 1: some other things that will come into come into the mix.

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Speaker 1: So I saw this video earlier today. It's tough. You know.

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01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: You have this baseball player for the Yankees and he's Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not a preticular baseball fan. I

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of people love it, so my closest

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Speaker 1: friends are really into it. I'm not somebody who's gets

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Speaker 1: excited about baseball. But anyway, I always remember when I

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Speaker 1: did try to play, people would say, don't be don't

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: be afraid of the ball, you know, which I guess

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: it is good advice, but the ball actually could be

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: a problem. Um. And I remember having a h a

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Speaker 1: English teacher who played in a men's softball league in

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Speaker 1: New York City here and he was a pitcher and

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Speaker 1: the bats and softball are metal, and the pitching mound

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Speaker 1: and softball is pretty close to the plate. He took

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Speaker 1: a line drive into the face that he had to

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Speaker 1: have reconstructive surgery on his face. I mean it it

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01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: looked like he I mean it looked like he had

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01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: been hit in the face with a bat, but it

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01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: had been the ball. And I always remember seeing that thing,

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, and I knew that teacher pretty well. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the ball is a problem sometimes. Actually it's not like

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01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: this is something just a fear. You have to get

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01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: over it. You know, there's a high velocity object and

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01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: it's heavy and it's hard. And today a young girl,

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: I think she's two or three years old got hit

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Speaker 1: with a line drive by a player, and I feel

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: terrible for her family, the young girl. She went to hospital.

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: She's okay, she's recovering, but she's got here the line

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: drive off a major league baseball bat. And you see

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01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: the player too, And um, I I've never except in

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: play baseball, I never heard anything like that happened with me.

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01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: But I kind of how had a moment of feeling

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01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: it reminded me of soccer practice once And it wasn't

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01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: me who kicked the ball. But I was with a

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01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: friend and and he let one. He let one rip

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: and he had quite a foot and it went just over.

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01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: It went over the o the goal and it hit

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: it a gentleman who was you kind of race walking,

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01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: and I would guess was in his mid to late seventies.

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01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 1: And that guy went down and I remember thinking, oh

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't know if he's getting back up. Now.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hit the ball. I didn't kick the ball legitimately,

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling the story, but I I and the

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01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: feeling in my stomach seeing that happen. It was just

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01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: me and this friend of mine there practicing, and I

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: just think king and you know, he had there was

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01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: no ill intent, you know, he just really connected and

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Speaker 1: it went. So I felt for that player too. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was crying, I think. I mean, the baseball

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: player looked like he was tearing up. I mean, he

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01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: just felt horrible as soon as he could see that.

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01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: It was like a two year old girl got hey

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Speaker 1: with a line drive. Again, a complete accident, but those

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Speaker 1: things happen, So I just that was that was a

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: rough one to see today. But now I've got sports

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Speaker 1: on the mind here and it's because, uh, there's another story,

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Speaker 1: um that I think is this is gonna this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big issue, a big problem. So Aaron

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Speaker 1: Hernandez is he killed himself in prison. He was convicted

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Speaker 1: of murder back in and earlier this year he committed suicide.

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Speaker 1: He was a superstar linebacker for the New England Patriots,

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: which is the most um, you know, the most prestigious

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: dynasty football football dynasty for the last you know, decade

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Speaker 1: plus or so, right, and he was involved with these

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01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: these crimes, these murders, really brutal murders. But they've done

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: a h They've done an autopsy and they have found

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Speaker 1: the diagnosis now is that he had chronic traumatic encephalopathy

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: UM and had stage three of four stages of it,

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: so his brain was already atrophying and at the most

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: severe stage you get dementia, aggression, difficulty finding words. This

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01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: is a a very serious brain disease. And there have

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: been other players that have been found with this as well.

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: And I was speaking to Tie about this, who's follows

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: the story more closely than I do, and he told

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01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: me some very interesting stuff about the NFL and whether

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: the NFL is really trying to find out the truth

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01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: you or not and where the researchers tell me, typ uh,

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01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: I tell me what's going on with bu and the

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01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: research in the NFL. Well, they initially pledged one million dollars,

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: which is obviously a lot of money to research. But

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: over the summer when there was some money, do all

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: of a sudden be you didn't get the money from

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Speaker 1: the NFL, because at the end of the day, it

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: seems like more and more they're afraid of what these brands,

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Speaker 1: what they'll find, because I think what the NFL expected

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Speaker 1: was the first few brains that came out, you know,

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Speaker 1: the movie Concussion and things like that, everybody's seeing that

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: would have it and then there would start to be

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01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: some counter evidence. There's no counter evidence. I mean, there's

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01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: just one hundred nine out of one hundred tens ten

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01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: brains so far study and I know everybody says that's

1205
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: a small sample size, but it's it's getting bigger. And

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: every single time these guys have c t A and

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Speaker 1: all of them either went broke all of a sudden.

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01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: You hear about spouses who say he was a great businessman,

1209
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: he started three businesses, all of a sudden, I look,

1210
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: and we're getting foreclosed on because he forgot to send

1211
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: the checks like they They just simple things like that,

1212
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: the confusion, and that's that's if they're lucky. A lot

1213
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: of times the guys end up violent and commit murder

1214
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: or hurt themselves. Yeah, I mean Aaron Hernandez, this guy's

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01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: signs of forty million dollar contract coming out of college

1216
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: and he's going around acting like a contract hit man

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 1: or something. He's killing people for for the most minor

1218
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: and fraction and forget to be being a hitman. He

1219
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even getting paid. He's just killing people for looking

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: at him the wrong way. I mean, the guy was

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01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: clearly deranged, and so I think it's interesting to look

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01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: and see that he had this level of of CT.

1223
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: But what what what's the So the theory is that

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01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: it's multiple that CT in the NFL. It's not about

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01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: the big hits, right, This is about continuous, continuous pressure

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: that the brain has against the skull from just the

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: day to day football, just to day to day football things.

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Speaker 1: People compare it to boxing and UFC m m A

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01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: m M A actually is the best insulated from it

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01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: because if you take a kick to the head you

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01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: go down, they stop the fight, and then you have

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: a mandatory suspension in which you're not allowed to do contact.

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: Boxing gets it more because it's the worst time it

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01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: happens with boxing. Is a guy who has enough power

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01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: to hurt you, but not enough power to knock you out,

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01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: and you take twelve rounds of a beating. And that's

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: what happens to football players all the time. So going forward,

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: UFC actually is insulated from this more than other sports

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: because it's the smaller hits that happen over and over

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: and over again that doesn't really happen in mixed marshall time.

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: I know you you played. I never played football. I

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: watch it, uh and it's the only sport that I

1243
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: enjoy watching that I've never played. Every other sport that

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01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: I like to watch I have at least participated in,

1245
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: and some I played a lot of. You played football

1246
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: growing up. I thought it's really interesting you told me

1247
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: would you let would you let your kids play football?

1248
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean it's not even a it's not

1249
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: even a question. There's just no way. And the reason is,

1250
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: and this is what the NFL is going to run into.

1251
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: There's no way to properly protect yourself from this situation

1252
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: unless you change the way football is. Yeah, even the

1253
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: I mean the helmets, the helmets getting better, the padding

1254
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,879
Speaker 1: getting better. If it's about the brand contacting the inside

1255
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: of the skull essentially from just the movement the torque

1256
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: on the neck and the body going down hitting the ground,

1257
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: that is football, right. So unless it becomes flag football

1258
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: or seven on seven less the game matically changes, there's

1259
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: no way to protect yourself, unfortunately, and that's why for

1260
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: me it would be a non starter. For my children.

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01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: Don't judge other parents, but for me it would be

1262
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: a non starter. Thanks Ty, So you know, Tie, from

1263
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: some perspectrum, somebody's following this much more closely than I am.

1264
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: And also, let's played football. Look, I you know, I'm

1265
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: torn on this because I love the NFL, and Ty does.

1266
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 1: Amy watches the NFL sometimes to write Amy, NFL maybe

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: sometimes a little bit no, no NFL, Yes, okay, a

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: little bit, Okay, she says, a little bit, a little

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: bit of NFL. No. I love you if I watch

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: with my brothers and my dad. Um, I'm I think

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01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: football is from a spectator. From a spectator point of view,

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: I think it's hard for anything else really compete with

1273
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: a good football game. And and I know people love

1274
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: it so much it's become I know, baseball's America's past time,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like the primary sport right now, you know,

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Speaker 1: in season, football dominates everything else. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you do with this. I should note that there are

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Speaker 1: other sports that are problems with us too. People always say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know there's Amry pins with their football, like we

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Speaker 1: play soccer, you know, or European football. Uh. I was

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Speaker 1: telling Tie in the break. They've been they've done studies

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Speaker 1: young girls and and this I know this is a

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: micro aggression because I'm separating out girls from guys. But

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01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: the musculature, the uh, the density and weight of the

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Speaker 1: skull is different, particularly among young men and young women.

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Speaker 1: You know, so sort of young teenage girls that are

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: playing soccer versus young teenage guys should not be using

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Speaker 1: using their head for headers from the ball, should not

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Speaker 1: be doing it. They've they've started, and they've I think

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Speaker 1: real sports and HBO has looked into this, abay, there's

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01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: been some research. But you know, I played a lot

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Speaker 1: of soccer, a lot of basketball, a lot of tennis

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: growing up, and uh yeah, that's right. I play a

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01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of tennis grow up. You can make fun of me.

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01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: Tennis a great sport whatever. Tennis is amazing, But I

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Speaker 1: did not play football. It wasn't really big here in Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: But I know that, um, you know, headers were a

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Speaker 1: big part of of of soccer and all over the world.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about it, you're you're you're taking

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: a rubber object that has weight, that's moving at speed

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: and smashing your head into it, as well as, by

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: the way, oftentimes smashing your head into other heads and

1303
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: doing this over and over and over again. Your body

1304
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: is not meant to do this. And I know that

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01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: people think, oh, I don't be a whimp and everything else,

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: but you know, look, Hernandez might have been, you know,

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: a psycho killer. Whether he had CT or not, I

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: don't know, but it is very suspicious, but it certainly

1309
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: would explain a lot, and the NFL not wanting to

1310
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: admit that this is a much bigger problem than it

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01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: is that I I could see how that would be

1312
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: the case too. And then when you add in other

1313
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: sports where this is an issue, you know, people with

1314
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: life expectancy is going off all the time. We're living

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: people living into their you know, nineties, are gonna be

1316
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: living into three digits more regularly. I gotta take care

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: of your brain now. It's just not worth it in

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: some of these sports. I think it's a little bit

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01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: of a rethink. We gotta apply to this. If you

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: have thoughts on this will If not today, we'll definitely

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,520
Speaker 1: take it tomorrow too. The Dream Act has been a priority.

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01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: We think it is a good first step. It is

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: a priority. Uh something that's sim with who passed that

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 1: than what about other undocumented well comprehensive immigration reforms is anything.

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: We think this is a good first step, and we

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 1: do want to protect the families, protecting their families. Of

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01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: course the logical next step. Their families did a great

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01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: thing for our country bringing these kids here, who are working,

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: who are in the military, who are in school, who

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: are a brilliant part of our future. They have Nancy

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: Pelosi articulating what I think is is the the real

1332
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: sentiment in the Democrat Party right now about about Dreamers,

1333
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: which is that they're doing us a favor by being here,

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01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: that U S citizens should be thankful to illegals in

1335
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: this case because they're they're helping us out because they're

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: just so amazing. There's so much better than U. S. Citizens.

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: U S citizens who are white, African American, Latino Asian American.

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: You know, go down the whole list. Illegals are doing

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01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: us a favor by being here. This, this is what

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01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 1: the Democrats are running with now as their explanation for

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: their position on DOCCA. And it's not new. Really, we're

1342
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: just hearing it, I think, more clearly than we have

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01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: in the past. But they really, they really are. I

1344
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: was gonna say they believe this. I don't know what

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: they believe. I think the Democrat Party is so full

1346
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: of of so full of phonies, that it's almost impossible

1347
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: to differentiate who's a true believer versus who's who's a

1348
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: complete cynic, right, who's a true believer and an idiot

1349
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: versus who is just saying whatever they have to say

1350
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: in the moment in order to get the the masses

1351
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: who are registered Democrat to pull the lever for them.

1352
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: But the uh, the the storyline here is gonna just

1353
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: continue to play out with Democrats pushing for for DOCCA,

1354
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: and if Trump goes along with it, I think that

1355
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: would be the single, the single biggest mistake short of

1356
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: something terrible and unforeseeable happening with North Korea, the single

1357
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: biggest policy mistake that I could foresee right now would

1358
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: be just an amnesty. It would be a massive amnesty,

1359
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: and it would just turn it would turn his base

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01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 1: on him. I think, I think anyone who was gonna

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: be honest about what Trump was promising and pushing for.

1362
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: And why why did he beat Marco Rubio? Why did

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: he beat ted Cruz? It was the immigration issue that

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01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: really separated even Yeah, there was a there was an

1365
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: issue of charisma and audience connection and appeal. And Trump

1366
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: was a much better showman than any of the rest

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: of them. I know that he He managed to really

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01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: sidetrack and sideline Marco Rubio, as though Rubio wasn't a

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 1: gifted politician. I think Rubio in his elements, actually pretty smooth,

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Speaker 1: pretty good, And I think that had Cruises an intellectual

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: and intellectual powerhouse. He's not Mr Charisma and he admits that.

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Speaker 1: But why did we vote for Trump instead of these

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: other candidates? And some of your sitting there and they're

1374
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:15,480
Speaker 1: like yeah, and John Kasick too, and I'm like, nah, nah.

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Speaker 1: I remember I interviewed Kasik and it was, and I

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: try to be I was putting on my my journalist

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: had for a second in the interviews because I was

1378
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: just asking questions. I wasn't trying to overly opinion. And

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01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: I went through. I interviewed Kasick and Rubio, and I've

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: interviewed Cruise before. I mean, you know, the whole who

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: else Rand Paul? Rand Paul was just I was just

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01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him to be like dude, like whatever

1383
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: hanged in. He just strikes me as like a surfer

1384
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: from Kentucky. But I remember speaking to uh Kasik and

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: just afterwards thinking, well, that guy's not gonna that guy's

1386
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: not going anywhere with this presidential campaign thing. But why

1387
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: did we vote for Trump or why did many of

1388
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: you listening to vote for Trump because of his stance

1389
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: on immigration? I think, above and beyond any other policy matter,

1390
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: putting aside the style on the substance, it was immigration.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of baggage that comes with Trump.

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01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: We all know that there's a lot of stuff that

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to say, Okay, not great,

1394
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: not perfect. But overall, I'm still with this. Overall, I'm

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01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: still supporting the movement. Yeah, the nepotism in the White

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01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: House is troubling, right. I don't want to go down

1397
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: the whole list, but there's a lot of stuff that's

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01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:27,799
Speaker 1: been going on that is difficult, difficult to overlook unless

1399
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: you can see a broader, a much more important end

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01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: result coming. And on immigration, that means finally stopping this

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: policy of near open borders and continuous cyclical amnesty. This

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01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: was this is essential. This is what we've been promised,

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: this is what we've been talking about. And I just

1404
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: worry that because Trump has so much now arrayed against

1405
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: him with the Mueller investigation, the media, the media is

1406
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: there's no way for them to turn turn it back,

1407
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: or or tone it down against Trump. They have defined

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01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: their position. They want to destroy this White House, and

1409
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: they want people in prison. There's there's They don't want

1410
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: different policies, they don't want moderation. I think there are

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01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: plenty of people at the Washington Post in New York

1412
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: Times who, quite honestly, are are agitated by Trump doing

1413
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: a deal with Pelosi and Schumer on the dead ceiling,

1414
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: because wait a second, Obama never got deals done with

1415
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: the Republicans. If Trump is this fascist, extremist neo Nazi

1416
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: loving lunatic, which is what the media is always saying

1417
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: he is what why is he reaching out to either

1418
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: side and taking what the moderate consensus position is, at

1419
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: least on the dead ceiling. I thought he was just

1420
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: completely a barbarian, right, So it complicates the narrative from

1421
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: them because they've told us that Trump is the absolute worst,

1422
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: that he's the devil, that just you know all this right,

1423
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: We don't have to go down the list of their

1424
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 1: entire TV networks that are essentially anti Trump packs, political

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: action committees. Immigration though, is a place where he can't

1426
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: allow the pressure to change his position, and I'm I

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01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: am concerned, and you see what Democrats are willing to do.

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01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: On the other side, you have Javier Bessarah, who is

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01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: the Attorney General of California, is suing the administration right

1430
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: now to stop a border wall from going up. Now,

1431
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: this is really repairs, mostly to an existing border wall

1432
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: that's in the San Diego sector of the US Mexico border,

1433
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: and he's trying to stop it. How is he doing that?

1434
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: This is just litigious, it's just using the law as

1435
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: a weapon. It's law fair. It's trying to tangle up there.

1436
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: They're not gonna win on the merits. The federal government

1437
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: is allowed to build a wall to separate our country

1438
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: from another country, especially in a place where it already

1439
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: has a wall. But suing is just a means of

1440
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: slowing it down. It's a it's a way to show

1441
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 1: the Democrat base that in California, they will do anything.

1442
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: They will abuse the law and public servants like Javier

1443
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 1: but Sarah will abuse the powers of their office. He's

1444
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: the Attorney General of California and he should know better.

1445
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: He's suing because he wants an environmental impact statement. It's

1446
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: a wall. Yeah, some tortoises and and desert hairs and

1447
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: things like that may have trouble getting back and forth. Sorry,

1448
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: it's a wall. It's got to go up. I'll never

1449
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: forget when I was out of a military base in California,

1450
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 1: just spending spending some time out there doing a little

1451
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 1: little training, little stuff, and the the general ran the base,

1452
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: sat us down and was just giving us a base overview,

1453
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: and he went into this story about how they uh,

1454
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: they were forced by the environmental lobby in California. There

1455
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: were four us to build these forced to build these

1456
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: this netting along a long stretch of roadway going to

1457
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: the base, because there was traffic going into and out

1458
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: of the base and tortoises were getting run over. So

1459
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: they had to build this little netting along the side,

1460
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: almost like a little tennis net for tortoises. But you know,

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01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: tortoises aren't the most agile of fellows, and so they

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01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: would get stuck in this, in this netting, and then

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01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 1: they were just like it was like ringing the dinner

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01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: bell for vultures and you know whatever else runs around

1465
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: the desert eating tortoises. I don't know, uh, But so

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: they had this in the environment has kept suing and

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01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: problems and suing, and it was all out in court

1468
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: and so then they had to build tortoise tunnels. They

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 1: actually had to build these little tunnels under the roadway,

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01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: so they so that the tortoises would go into the

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Speaker 1: netting and then could kind of find their way because

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Speaker 1: they don't really have a reverse button. Apparently, like tortoises

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01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: can't hit the reverse they would get stuck in the

1474
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: netting and then they'd have to you know, and you

1475
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 1: can imagine this is like all in slow motion at

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: it is moving slowly moving slowly and then eventually get

1477
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: to the tortoise tunnel and they could get to the

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01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: other side, and then they could go forward and get through.

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: This caused the taxpayer like millions of dollars. I forget

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01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: what the total figure was, but it was really hard

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01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: to believe at the time that they would put the

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01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,879
Speaker 1: military through this. You know, I mean this is essentially

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Speaker 1: a roadkill problem, right, I mean, roadkill happens. I love animals.

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01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: I feel bad when it happens. I you know, I've

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 1: I've come very close a few times to uh nailing

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01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: a deer here or there on the road. And you know,

1487
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: I've had some short stops. I've been lucky so far.

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01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: Knock on wood, right, but you know, come on, the

1489
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 1: military has got more important stuff you than build tortoise tunnels.

1490
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: But this is it's California. Environmental lobbies incredibly powerful there,

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01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: and Javier Bassara, the Attorney General of the state of California,

1492
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: knows that if he um, if he sues, environmental groups

1493
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: are gonna come to his defend. They're just gonna try

1494
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: to tie this up in the federal courts for as

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01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: long as p possible, because even in places where they

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01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 1: have a wall. They don't want a wall that works.

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 1: What can you say about this other than they're making

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: it obvious. They're making it obvious to the rest of

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: us that they want people to be able to come

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01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: into the country illegally. What is the opposition to the

1501
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: wall all about? If not just that the Democrats, at

1502
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: the end of the day, want more illegals to come in.

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01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Why are they so opposed to all They say it

1504
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: won't work, Well, then what's the big deal. They're clearly

1505
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: opposed to it because they know that at some level

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01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: it will work, and it is a a symbol as

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01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: well of an administration that, yes, I'm gonna use the

1508
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 1: S word now, is trying to restore sovereignty. National borders

1509
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: aren't essential essential part of that. I just it never

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01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: would occur to me that I could show up whenever

1511
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: I've been in a foreign country, and I've been in

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, whenever I've been in the four

1513
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: in a foreign country, I have always thought of myself

1514
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 1: as a guest. I'm a guest, I'm subject to their laws,

1515
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 1: and I appreciate them letting me hang out for whatever

1516
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: period of time that I'm there. I've been in some

1517
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: countries where things were a little rough at the time,

1518
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: and things were a bit spicy, and it's not a

1519
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: not a good time to be there, obviously, And I've

1520
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: been in lots of lovely places too, But I'm a guest.

1521
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: I would it would never occur to me to show

1522
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: up in another country and just be like, well, give

1523
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: me stuff now, I'm here, Give me stuff. You owe

1524
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: me stuff. You should you should feel lucky that I'm

1525
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,919
Speaker 1: here in your country and demanding stuff, which is exactly

1526
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: what Nancy Pelosi is saying. The American people should say

1527
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 1: about illegals. Why are why are DOCCA dreamers any better

1528
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: than any other illegal I mean, I want to ask

1529
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: that question right now. Why are they any better because

1530
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: they were brought here as children? There are plenty of

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01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: illegals who are really nice people who are working hard

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01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: and are are contributing the economy. I mean, they're in

1533
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: the country illegally, they broke the law, but just there

1534
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: are plenty of people that came I'm sure in their

1535
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: twenties who where every bit as productive and law abiding

1536
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: kind is any and is any dreamer. So why the

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01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: pretense that the dreamers are so Oh the dreamers. Mean,

1538
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 1: there are dreamers that you know, you can do some

1539
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: some Gologle searches on it. You'll see their dreamers word

1540
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: gang members, dreamers who are guilty of sexual assault or

1541
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: something that are I mean just but oh no, it's

1542
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: it's this. It's this class of of angels that are here,

1543
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: and the big mean Republicans won't just give them, give

1544
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: them their their amnesty. And I should know that the

1545
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: amnesty is not something that we should expect. There to

1546
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: be um anything in the way of gratitude for no, no, no, no, no.

1547
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: The the amnesty is is now expected. And that's why

1548
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,839
Speaker 1: that Pelosi meeting, what I think, that's why that Pelosi

1549
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: meeting where where we played it for you earlier in

1550
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: the week, they got all you know, up in up

1551
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 1: in Pelosi's up in her grill so to speak about

1552
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: the dreamers, and they were demanded. Not only they were

1553
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: telling her, I mean, they were telling among the most

1554
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: powerful Democrats, which it's amend but she is. They were

1555
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: telling somebody who had been third in line for the

1556
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: presidency not long ago. It's that getting them what they

1557
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: want is not enough. They want the moral or emotional victory.

1558
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know what we would necessarily call it

1559
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 1: of also not not having to give anything in return.

1560
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: They take a maximum a maximum position here. Uh, they

1561
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: try to maximize their side. There will be no negotiation.

1562
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: That was a stunning That was a stunning moment. It

1563
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: should be for all of us who know about us.

1564
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Don't even listening to this show, And if you didn't,

1565
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I always recommend please do download the earlier podcast from

1566
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: the week. You can always listen to it on on

1567
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: iTunes or however you listen to podcasts buck Sexing of

1568
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: American Now. But that was a real moment. That was

1569
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 1: something that we should all be uh paying close attention

1570
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: to here. And and that's that mentality. On the one hand,

1571
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: you've got Nancy Pelosi who is presenting dreamers as this

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: every dreamer is a valedictorian serving in the Marine Corps, uh,

1573
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, volunteering at a soup kitchen. Some of them are.

1574
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: That's great, but plenty of them aren't. And it's not

1575
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: about that. We don't make policy based on the fact

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01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: that there are some people who are nice who are

1577
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: affected by policies. If it was about who's nice or

1578
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: who's a decent person, we might as well, let in

1579
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of people from impoverished nations all of

1580
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the world who are totally nice, would be very law abiding.

1581
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: A lot of would likely go on welfare and take

1582
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: in more than they put out in the economy, and

1583
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: we're already twenty trillion dollars in debt. But they are nice.

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01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: We're not going to do that because you don't make laws.

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: You don't make policy based on a few case studies

1586
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: are a few stories of people who are impressive. Um

1587
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,839
Speaker 1: as individuals. You make policy based on what is lawful

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01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: and what works in the aggregate, and what is best

1589
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: for the citizens of this country. This immigration thing, we

1590
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 1: gotta watch this very very closely. All right, team, We're

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01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna hit a quick break here. I'll be back with

1592
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: you and just a few stay with me. This is

1593
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: a guy, Brian kill Me, who whenever I see him,

1594
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: kisses my like a little boy, meat and back. Now,

1595
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 1: he's such a fan. He's dying to be a member

1596
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: of the Hollywood elite. The only reason he's not a

1597
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: member of the Hollywood elige because nobody will hire him

1598
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: to be one. And you know the reason I'm talking

1599
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 1: about this because my son had an open heart surgery

1600
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: then has to have two more and because of that,

1601
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: I learned that there are kids with no insurance in

1602
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 1: the same situation. I don't get anything out of this. Brian,

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01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: you fony, little creep. Oh, I'll pound you when I

1604
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: see you. I'll pound you when I see you. He says.

1605
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: That was Jimmy Kimmel, who's supposed to be a comedians

1606
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: he said, And I guess that crowd figures we just

1607
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: laugh because Jimmy Kimmel said something, so I have to

1608
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: laugh now. Uh not funny, not funny, not cool. I

1609
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: have to tell you one thing you should always be

1610
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,879
Speaker 1: on the lookout for in media is anyone who uses

1611
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: private person to person conversations for public disputes like that.

1612
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: I have no idea about any interactions between Brian Kilmead

1613
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Kimmel. All I know is that every time

1614
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 1: I've interact with Brian Kilmeade has been a really stand

1615
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: up nice guy. It's all I can so. But but

1616
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know what what their relationship

1617
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 1: is like. But I don't care because whenever, whenever somebody,

1618
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: it's an ironclad rule, whenever somebody in the media business

1619
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 1: where It's so easy to take things out of context.

1620
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: It's so easy to to try to hurt someone's reputation

1621
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: or just take them down a notch by spreading something

1622
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 1: about them, whether it's true or not. Anyone who does

1623
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: that thing, Oh, let me tell you what so and

1624
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: so said to me in the green room, or let

1625
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: me tell you what so and so said when I

1626
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: saw him at a cocktail party. An even who pulls

1627
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: that stuff is a jerk, is a jerk. There's what

1628
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: said on air that's public, that's public domain, that's out

1629
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 1: there for everybody. There's what's said on the record that's

1630
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: out there for everybody. And then there's normal human interaction

1631
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: and expectation of some degree of uh of respect and

1632
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 1: privacy between professionals in this business. And Jimmy Kimmel's got

1633
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: a reputation for being a mean guy. I should know

1634
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: that that that's been out there for a long time.

1635
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: He's a comedian, but he's mean. And I know he

1636
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: cries when a lion in Africa dies because that really

1637
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: got him very, very very upset. I haven't seen him cry.

1638
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:36,879
Speaker 1: I should note about anything that's gone on in Iraq

1639
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 1: or Afghanistan. I haven't seen him cry when talking about veterans,

1640
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: and but he cried when a lion got shot in Africa.

1641
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 1: That's the only time I've ever seen the guy cry

1642
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: on TV. That's all I can tell you. And I

1643
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: love animals as as much, if not more than the

1644
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: next guy. But you know, I think that there's something

1645
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: off about this fellow. And I think that using a

1646
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 1: a personal medical story. For every personal medical story that's

1647
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: out there about how I want people to have Obamacare,

1648
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: I can tell stories about not being able to see

1649
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: the doctor I want to see, not being able to

1650
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: afford the doctor I want to go see because of

1651
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: the system we're in, you know, waiting an inordinately long

1652
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: amount of time before getting to see a doctor. I mean,

1653
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: we can all, we can all do the personal anecdote

1654
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: thing to try and make our policy seem more humane

1655
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: and better. But even putting all that aside of the

1656
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: health care thing, it's just so disappointing that comedians, especially

1657
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: comedians who are at the height of the profession or

1658
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: paid millions and millions of dollars, they can't just make

1659
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 1: us laugh, you know that they can't. Laughter is such

1660
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: an important part of our society. Humor is such an

1661
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,799
Speaker 1: important part of America. I really mean that. Our ability

1662
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: to laugh at things, to laugh at our leaders, to

1663
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: laugh at ourselves, it's essential. Yeah, it keeps you going,

1664
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: it helps you through dark days. And people who have

1665
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: the ability to make the masses laugh, that's a real gift.

1666
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: And to see so many Colbert and Kimmel and Steward

1667
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: and down the line, to see them squandering it because

1668
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: they want to score political points with the Hollywood left,

1669
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's just disappointment. It's just gross and all

1670
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: sad to say that kind of stuff. Look Brian handled

1671
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: like a class act and good for him, But Jimmy

1672
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Kimmel came across like a jerk, and I really do

1673
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: wish he would just be funny. We're gonna have Team

1674
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Bucks speaks coming up here in just a second. To

1675
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: stay with me for that. We'll be right back. Mont

1676
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Lewis says, look, Jimmy Kimmel shouldn't focus on healthcare policy.

1677
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: He's folks on being funny. This is an American citizen who,

1678
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: aside from his job and aside from being rich, which

1679
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: he admits, I can afford this coverage for my kid,

1680
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 1: even if insurance didn't cover it. He's an American citizen

1681
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: who has a kid born with a serious condition that

1682
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: requires his MJ's just supported up to a million dollars

1683
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: in surgeries. An American citizen, she says, so that means

1684
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: that he has he has a right to speak about

1685
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: no one saying, I mean, this is just continuing. I

1686
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to spend as much time with the Jimmy

1687
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: Kimmel think today has already have I know, and we're

1688
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna get to team Buck speaks here and just a

1689
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes. I've got some some great

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Speaker 1: feedback and thoughts and suggestions from all of you. But first,

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Speaker 1: I used to do Poppies weekend show over at CNN,

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01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 1: UM when they would have me on, and I remember

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01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: with her a few times I would say, hey, Poppy, um,

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01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: why is it? And so this is again this is

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01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: in a room full of people, right, so this wasn't

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01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: a private conversation I would say, with the producers listening

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01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,919
Speaker 1: and everybody me miked up. But in the commercial break, uh,

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01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: why is it that I'm introduced as a conservative political

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01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: commentator but the leftist democrat talking points obsessed bomb throwing? Uh?

1700
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Smears squad that keeps coming on, whether you know from

1701
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: different different Democrat talking heads here and there. Why are

1702
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: they just political analysts? So it's like conservative political comment Oh.

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01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,799
Speaker 1: They also used to sometimes say worked for Glenn Beck's

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01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: The Blaze, and I would kind of sometimes say, and

1705
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: also worked for the CIA, served in war zone work,

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01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: the NYPD work on counter terrorism cases, actually served my country.

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01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: So why don't you back up j school grad people

1708
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: and show little respect? Just just a thought, just a thought. Uh,

1709
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 1: but you know the poppy was she was like, what

1710
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 1: do you mean? You know, she like did not compute.

1711
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 1: It was like the wires were a crossed, but no

1712
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: notice the desire here to defend Jimmy Kimmel lecturing people, Look,

1713
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you could do whatever he wants, right, he's he's in

1714
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: with the right people at NBC or ABC. Where NBC

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01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 1: at ABC? I don't know. Look, I I do not watch.

1716
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: I watched the clips of these things. Sometimes I do

1717
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: not stay up and watch comedians who are not funny

1718
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 1: late at night. Make this, it's all the same joke.

1719
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: It's all you know, Donald Trump, you know, ha haa

1720
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: sexist Donald Trump. Haha, racist, It's just the jokes. Are

1721
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: not funny. The people that are trying to do this

1722
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: stuff annoy me more than anything else. And I if

1723
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: they were funny, I would watch them. But notice how

1724
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: even in the the j school grad squad, right the

1725
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: journalism school folks, they feel the need because they agree

1726
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: with Kimmel, they feel the need to back him up,

1727
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: even though he said, as we played the Clipper before,

1728
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: that he's gonna pound somebody. That's really irresponsible. You know,

1729
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: I know he's a comedian, but that's an irresponsible thing

1730
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: for him to say about someone that he has had

1731
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: person to person contact with. And you know that's that's

1732
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: in another context, I promise you. If a prominent right

1733
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 1: wing imagine for a second, just imagine for a second,

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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: and uh, he's just the first one who comes to mind.

1735
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 1: So if if Bill O'Reilly had gone on air and

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01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 1: said that he was gonna pound some uh, that he

1737
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: was gonna pound John Stewart and send in a really

1738
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: nasty way, well, there would be think pieces on slate

1739
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: and huffing and posted to be like, oh my gosh,

1740
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly for advocated violence, What it's wrong with him?

1741
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 1: You'd see so much of that. But because they like

1742
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel's politics because they like the way that he

1743
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: uh is presenting this issue easy. He wants single pair, Well, yeah,

1744
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: he's a big fancy you talk about how you know,

1745
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: oh you know, there are a lot of people that

1746
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: have dealt with healthcare problems of all kinds, and we

1747
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: don't just put one after another up there and say, well,

1748
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: what do you think person who has a sympathetic personal story.

1749
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: But Kima wants single payer. He wants single payer. But

1750
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 1: I promise you if we started taxing wealth instead of

1751
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: taxing income, a lot of these folks were talking about

1752
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: single payer in Hollywood and on the East Coast, we're

1753
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 1: super rich, they would change their tune. Okay, okay, Tim

1754
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Buck speaks. I promised it. It's coming and just a

1755
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: few stay with me. Coming up? Is Donald Trump going

1756
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: to be called to testify to Congress. Michaeliscoff has the

1757
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: latest on that. Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering out there.

1758
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Who's got a hammer? Where is it? Where's the hammer

1759
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,719
Speaker 1: is that on? They go up on the other floor.

1760
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: Somebody go up there and stop the hammering. Stop the hammering,

1761
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: Stop the hammering. I love it, man, that was said,

1762
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: stop the hammering. You know, that's MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell having

1763
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: a total freak out. I think I mentioned this last

1764
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: night on the show, and it was it's just one

1765
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 1: of those moments that, as somebody who's done a fair

1766
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: amount of TV and a lot of radio, you just

1767
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 1: got to assume that the mic is always live and

1768
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: you're always being recorded, and he forgot that very important rule,

1769
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: or he just doesn't care all that much. I also

1770
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: think it's kind of funny, and uh, I love our

1771
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: folks Team Buck folks up in the Boston area. You

1772
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 1: probably picked this up to that Laurence o'donald's Boston accent.

1773
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: When he gets really angry, you know, when he wants

1774
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 1: to go a little tough guy. All of a sudden

1775
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: he starts to sound a little Southy, you know, stop

1776
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 1: the hammering. It's pretty awesome. Oh man, Yeah, it's good

1777
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 1: people have you know, sometimes words come out whatever. Molly

1778
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: tells me that she's really tired. She says tired, and

1779
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, is that because you lived because you lived

1780
01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: in some different parts of the country where they have

1781
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 1: you for the accents And she doesn't think it's as

1782
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 1: funny as I do. I'm like, oh, I'm tired too,

1783
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's Laurence O'donald stop to hammering of good stuff. Man,

1784
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: it was oh and I couldn't play on air all

1785
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,040
Speaker 1: of it. It's like an eight minute long clip. But

1786
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 1: he he goes on to just curse up a storm.

1787
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean he loses it and someone on his staff

1788
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: it just had enough. And this is what happens. It's

1789
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you've other than just being

1790
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 1: a decent and considered human being, you always got to

1791
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: be nice to your staff in the media business, and

1792
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: you gotta have them on your side. In fact, you

1793
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 1: really want people that work for you and with you

1794
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: to feel like a family, and if they don't, stuff

1795
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: like this can happen. So I the the whole clip

1796
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: is worth it. Yes, there are some mashups out there

1797
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: now with mc hammer and you know hammer time and

1798
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: stop the hammering that you've just got to see. I

1799
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: also wanted to adding a Team Buck Speaks segment here

1800
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 1: because people will listening to the show. I think the

1801
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 1: reaction to this has been really positive. People listen on

1802
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: podcast and I love our live callers and it's really

1803
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: great to have that on air live interaction. But I

1804
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: know a lot of you listen on a delay, or

1805
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: you listen to the I Heart app when you can

1806
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: get to it, or you listen to the podcast. And

1807
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: so by writing to me on Facebook, it it gives

1808
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 1: me the opportunity to communicate with you back and forth.

1809
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: And I wanted to share some more. And we're gonna

1810
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: keep doing this, I think, because it adds a fun

1811
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: layer to the show. Team Bucks speaks, So here we go,

1812
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: Richard writes, Since my wife is also my office manager,

1813
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: and since I've been blessed to be very busy, a

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01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 1: slow cooker, or as we call it, a croc pot,

1815
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: has been a lifesaver. My wife has some insanely good recipes,

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01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: including a chicken taco soup that is to die for.

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01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: It's a great winter dinner that we can actually get

1818
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: several meals out of. It's also a great way to

1819
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: take a cheaper piece of meat and have it turn

1820
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: out absolutely tender, all using a can of coke the

1821
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: acid tenderizes. I'll send you her recipes. That's from Richard. Well, Richard,

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01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 1: that sounds awesome. And I do know that people call

1823
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: it a crock pot too, and I'm planning this weekend

1824
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: to engage in my first pork crock pot excursion, assuming

1825
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't get too busy with other things. That's the way,

1826
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: That's the way the weekend is going to go. So

1827
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. And please do send me those recipes,

1828
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 1: you guys, if you want to send me a message

1829
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: including recipes for the crop pot. Facebook dot com, slash

1830
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: buck sex and all right more a team Buck speaks.

1831
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: We've got Adam here. Quote well and you know I'm

1832
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,679
Speaker 1: quoting is his message? Sorry? Quote quote the Adam love

1833
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: the history deep dives. I would like to share a

1834
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 1: quick story. My twelve year old daughter and I were

1835
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: driving to a soccer tournament and I asked her what

1836
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,879
Speaker 1: she had studied this week. She said the Ottoman Empire

1837
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: and the soldiers called janissaries. I told her that meant

1838
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: new soldier and she asked me how I knew that.

1839
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: So for the next hour we listened to the Thursday

1840
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: Siege of Malta show. We made it into the Friday show,

1841
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: but she is squeamis squeamish and was not cool with

1842
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,720
Speaker 1: the decapitations. Yeah, I can imagine. It was very cool

1843
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: to share some good dad daughter time and discussion. Thanks

1844
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: for a great show and shields high well. Adam, thank

1845
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: you for the awesome anecdote. I'm really glad you and

1846
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 1: your twelve year old daughter got a chance to listen

1847
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: to the Malta Deep out of the final installment is

1848
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: coming tomorrow night in the third hour of the show.

1849
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: So the the the end of the Siege of Malta.

1850
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I got a little delayed. The siege went on longer

1851
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: than I expected. But the end of the siege will

1852
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: be tomorrow night. And I also have some other I

1853
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: have some other history segments shows, not full shows, but

1854
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 1: segments planned, including the Siege of Vienna, the first siege

1855
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: of Vienna by the Ottoman Turks, and then the Battle

1856
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: of Lepanto on October seven, fifteen seventy one, or the

1857
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 1: seventeen this year, you know what I mean. But Adam, anyway,

1858
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad you've You're glad you're able to drop some

1859
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 1: janissary knowledge and had a good time with your daughter.

1860
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,719
Speaker 1: And and thank you so much for writing in Steve

1861
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: rites the following. I've been listening to you for a

1862
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 1: few years now. Thanks for offering a refreshing and honors

1863
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 1: perspective truly intelligent, guided by experience. Keep up the historical

1864
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: deep dives, always enlightening and entertaining. Keep up the good work,

1865
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 1: and stay safe in Gotham, Shields High. That's from Steve.

1866
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Steve really appreciate it, you know, the atta boys, from

1867
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:34,759
Speaker 1: everybody listening out there means a lot. Radio business takes

1868
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of time and energy out of well

1869
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: anyone who's doing this, but me in particular. I spend

1870
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: my whole day getting ready for this show, which is

1871
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: why it's information Dents, and I try to make it

1872
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: as rich and entertaining and engaging as I possibly can.

1873
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: And because I go a little later in the day

1874
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: and than some other hosts, I feel like it's my

1875
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: my obligation and my advantage to use that time to

1876
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: to just do a tremendous amount of research and just

1877
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: thinking about what I'm going to discuss on the show.

1878
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: Um So, anyway, thank you very much, Steve appreciated and

1879
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: Shields how to you. Adam writes, Oh, here we go,

1880
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Dad bought advice. I've been asking for this one, and

1881
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I did get to the gym today. I'll have you know.

1882
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Single leg lunges are brutal. They're just brutal. You know,

1883
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: I'd much rather just get on the bench, throw up

1884
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,839
Speaker 1: some weights a few times, you know, do the whole

1885
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, caveman bench push weight hard thing, but you

1886
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 1: know it's actually single leg lunges and planks and these

1887
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: are the things that one needs to do to get

1888
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 1: stabilizer muscles for the heavier weights. And I've done all

1889
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: the research and the training, uh, the mental training. Now

1890
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: I have to actually do the physical training. So that's

1891
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 1: a tough part of this. But here's what Adam says,

1892
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: trying to help me out for counteracting the dad bought.

1893
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Take a look into the catosis diet. I'm down twenty

1894
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: five pounds and half a belt for the first time

1895
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 1: in a long time after two months. The hardest part

1896
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 1: is the first three days. Then it's easy. It's all

1897
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Speaker 1: about cutting carbs down to twenty grahams a day and

1898
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: you can eat as much cheese, meat and protein you

1899
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 1: want and watch the way to fall off. Thanks Adam.

1900
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Speaker 1: I've done low carb before. In fact, because I'm Celiac,

1901
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: I tend to eat a pretty low carb diet. Uh

1902
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 1: these days, I'm I'm eating some carbs, but really keeping

1903
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: it minimal, but I really appreciate the advice. And you know,

1904
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm not yet there to embrace the the dad bod

1905
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 1: because I'm not a dad. So as soon as I

1906
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: becoming dad man, then it's gonna be all kinds of uh,

1907
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, buffalo wings and gluten free pizza and great stuff.

1908
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: Michael writes the following quick note from Michael. Time to

1909
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: get the band back together, Commy, Bear, Angus, et cetera. Michael, I,

1910
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 1: I assure you those are all in the mix. I

1911
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 1: really wanted the the team Buck folks who are new

1912
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: or newer to get a chance to know me, and

1913
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: and the uh, the intellectual rigor with which I approached

1914
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 1: the serious topics on the show before things yet a

1915
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 1: little too a little, a little silly, and we're just

1916
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: having some fun together. So that's one of the reasons

1917
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: why I've been keeping some of our favorite characters from

1918
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,640
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show, just keeping them on the shelf.

1919
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 1: They're not they have not been abandoned, they have not

1920
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 1: been tossed in the trash by any means. They're just

1921
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Speaker 1: on the shelf. But you will be seeing more of

1922
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Commybert and Jean Jacques the Marxist millionaire and Angus McManus,

1923
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: the belligerent Scottish bar keep all of that. Yes, you

1924
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: just gotta stay tuned, and they'll be making their way

1925
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 1: into the show. Kendra writes what happened to the final

1926
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 1: installment of the Siege of Malta. I totally love your

1927
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: history lessons, Kendra. Tomorrow night is the plan. We will

1928
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Speaker 1: have the final installment on Malta. I cannot leave you

1929
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:46,600
Speaker 1: uh hanging with whether or not the Automi. You know

1930
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Speaker 1: what happened with the Ottomans completely surrounding the Nights of

1931
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: Saint John and the prospect of complete annihilation of that

1932
01:47:54,800 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 1: Crusader order and the possibility of a beachhead for a

1933
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 1: major invasion of the heart of Europe. I can't just

1934
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,480
Speaker 1: leave that out there, so I will finish that tomorrow.

1935
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: I do appreciate I should note all of the messages

1936
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: and I could have done an entire team. Buck speaks tonight,

1937
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: just on the both recommendations for history deep dives, as

1938
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: well as how much you all seem to appreciate it.

1939
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: They require a lot of research and a lot of

1940
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 1: leg work on my part on the part of the

1941
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: team here in New York. So it's important to me

1942
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: that people enjoy them and get something out of it,

1943
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: because otherwise, you know, I can just sit here and

1944
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you see what's going on with Trump today.

1945
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: It's crazy, you know. I know a lot of hosts

1946
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: do that, and that's fine, and some people want that

1947
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: from different folks. But I try to bring different things

1948
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: to the table. And it's a little out there. Not

1949
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot of radio hosts doing are doing live shows,

1950
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: doing live radio and doing a history broadcast as part

1951
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: of the show. So when you tell me that you

1952
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: like it, it gives me the latitude to do more

1953
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: of them. But Siege of Malt Will we finished tomorrow,

1954
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: And Kendra, thank you so much for saying you totally

1955
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: love my history lessons. Um Evan writes the following, Elton

1956
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: John and Billy Joel overrated. You're killing me smalls. Although

1957
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: Springsteen is definitely overrated, okay, Evan, as long as we

1958
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:17,600
Speaker 1: can agree that Springsteen is overrated, I I would be

1959
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,799
Speaker 1: willing to negotiate the degree of overrated for the others.

1960
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Speaker 1: Billy Joel I do like some of his stuff, and

1961
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 1: and Elton John too. It's the only ones that I

1962
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 1: just have. I can't budge on our Springsteen and Bob

1963
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: Dylan when people tell me Bob Dylan is America's poet.

1964
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Speaker 1: And then I turned to them and I say, really,

1965
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Speaker 1: uh do when was the last time you decide you

1966
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: chose for any reason to listen to a Bob Dylan song?

1967
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: And the I tend to hear crickets chirping, and they

1968
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: it just we've been conditioned. Bob Dylan is America's poe.

1969
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan is amazing. And the same thing with Springsteen.

1970
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh Springsteen who loves America. Actually Springsteen has pretty left

1971
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 1: wing politics and can be really annoying and sanctimonious. But

1972
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: you know he has one line on in the US

1973
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, he must be all about America

1974
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: and the and the working man from New Jersey. Springsteen

1975
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: is all about wearing leather vests, uh and traveling around

1976
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: in a private jet. I mean, that's all I know

1977
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 1: about the guy other than his music is really overrated.

1978
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 1: I feel like he wears the same leather vest all

1979
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 1: the time and missing something. It's like he's got one.

1980
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: He's like Steve Jobs. It was always wearing like a

1981
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 1: black turtleneck and new balance sneakers. Uh. Springsteen is always

1982
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 1: wearing a shirt with sleeves rolled up at a black

1983
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 1: leather vest and anyway, people people love him. Though people

1984
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: love Springsteen, I gotta, I gotta put it out there, Uh,

1985
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Speaker 1: Susie Andy right love the history deep Dives. Struggling to

1986
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: read all the books you recommend, starting Escape from Camp

1987
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Speaker 1: fourteen today, then returning to the Ascent of Money, let

1988
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: me just say, for those listening, Escape from Camp fourteen

1989
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: is a is a must read, and you'll you'll go

1990
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 1: through it quickly. It's tough to read, it's hard. It's

1991
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 1: it's hard emotionally and psychologically, but it's a really, really

1992
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 1: important book and you'll get through it easily because it

1993
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: will keep your attention. The Ascent of Money Neil Ferguson,

1994
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 1: it's a you know, it's a little it's got some

1995
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 1: interesting stuff, but a lot of explaining to you how

1996
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 1: the finance markets work. And it's it's written really, I

1997
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 1: think for a an audience that finds just finance, modern

1998
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: day finance fascinating. So I did not. I did not

1999
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 1: think it was as awesome as some of the other

2000
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: things that I have recommended. Escape from Camp four Team

2001
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 1: though must must read. And then one more from Team

2002
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Speaker 1: Buck Speaks Today, William William Rather he's not calling me.

2003
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 1: William William writes, I love well done steak and Bob Dylan,

2004
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 1: and I'm a conservative combat veteran. You just roasted me

2005
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: Buck and he's got a laughing smiley face emoji. Here.

2006
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Speaker 1: Um William, First of all, thank you for your service.

2007
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: And second of all, man, you serve your country. If

2008
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 1: you want your steak well done, you want to rock

2009
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,640
Speaker 1: out to the Bob Dylan all day, that is your prerogative,

2010
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: my friend. You know, God bless um well done steak.

2011
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: I will tell you that sometimes I'll get my stake

2012
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: somewhat well done if I think that I'm a little

2013
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: worried about the quality of the food in the place

2014
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Speaker 1: where I am, because well done means you're less likely

2015
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Speaker 1: to get food borne illness. So there's that and Bob Dylan.

2016
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 1: I guess we'll just agree to disagree. But we both

2017
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: love freedom, William, and I really appreciate you writing me.

2018
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: All right. That's gonna be it for Team Buck Speaks

2019
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Speaker 1: and for the show today. Thank you so much for

2020
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,640
Speaker 1: hanging out with me here. Team Please do download the

2021
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: podcast buck Sexton with American Now on iTunes or listen

2022
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,520
Speaker 1: on the I Heart app anywhere across the country. Anytime,

2023
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: tell your friends about the show, spread the word far

2024
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Speaker 1: and wide, and until tomorrow when we have a Freestyle Friday,

2025
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Speaker 1: Shields High