1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: We gotta set the story straight because we have to people. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what's up. That's I don't know. People 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: think we're like rival enemy And yes, I made we 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: made thirteen thousand dollars for the entire season. I was 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: like ballin, y'all, Yeah, we're falling. How would that be? 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Like do you ever sit there and think about like, yeah, 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: when I be who I am with? My mom was 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: not here, Like would she support my career? Hello, my 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: beautiful people, and welcome to another episode of Cheeky's and Chill, 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: your absolute favorite podcast one world. And today is going 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: to be an amazing episode. So get ready and you're 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: gonna want to sit down with this one because we're 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: gonna set the story straight today. Okay, I have a 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: special guest, some one that I'm known for a very 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: long time. She is a self proclaimed queen of Spanish 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: media entrepreneur. She is also a podcast host and a 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: brand new Mama and Mama. See that her name is Roxy. 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: I like that be it? Yeah, honestly I okay, So 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: we got to said the story straight because we have 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: to people. I don't know what's up. That's I don't know. 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: People think we're like rival enemy. Yeah, was it the 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: it was the last episode of Chicks and Roxy or what. Yeah, 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Okay, that's what it was. People 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: think I left you hanging. People think I did thirty 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: because I had to go handle some business when I 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: was on traditional radio and it just, you know, production 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: just kind of did what it did, and it was 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: like what, Yeah, we really kind of didn't have a 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: lot of stake so in that show, like we thought 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: we did, but we kind of did it. Yes, you know, 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: we were both new to the reality show. I was 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: definitely not an executive producer. Then. I was just a 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: girl that was coming out of her mama's house. Still 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: lived in my mama's house. Yeah, and it was like girls. 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: So so basically, for those of you that don't know, 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I started my career off in reality. So it was 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Cheese and Roxy presented by Jenny rivera Chicks and Roxy, okay, 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: and Roxy was very well known Roxy. She you were 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: a radio I started by radio career fresh out of 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, and then I onto a station back 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: in the day's called Latino ninety six three and two 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: thousand and five, interviewed your mom's a few times, got 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: a pretty buzz with her one time, like on air, 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: she would never not come to the studio with the 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: bottle of thing. That's not all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Then when they presented this opportunity to work with Jenny's daughter, 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: which was you, we literally I think. I don't think 48 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people understand that we kind of were 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: getting to know each other on the show as we were. 50 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: People thought, and we're going to be straight up because 51 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: so many years ago, people thought we were friends before 52 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: we had met before. Yes, for the show though, They're like, 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: let's get to latinas. They're doing their things so that 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: they can inspire other latinas. I was like, I want 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: to be behind the cameras. I'm too shy, Like I 56 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: was not nowhere near like I felt ready, you know 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, And you were You were more marinated 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: more like you knew what you were doing. And that's 59 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: why I was like, I want out, first of all, 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: set the story straight, set the record straight, and then 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: also let people know how and where everything started with 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: me because it had a lot to do with you girl. 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that because I was 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: very shy, I was there. You were super behind the scene, 65 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: you were your mother's net. Like without you, I don't 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: know if your mom would have been able to build 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: the empire that she built, you know, and like, yeah, 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: she was the senior of the performer, but as you know, 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: as I know that, it takes the team to become 70 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: absolutely who you are until and to build the empire. 71 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I got to see you be that 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: for your mom so many times, and it was like wow, 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, like what'd your mom be who she was 74 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: without you? I know a lot of times that she 75 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do what she did if it 76 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: wasn't for me. And I'm not chasing my own born, 77 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: but I actually saw you do it that. I don't know, 78 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: you were so so bad in the scenes. But if 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: people wonder, like why she gets to be successful in 80 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: her own businesses out because you kind of formulated all 81 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: that for your mom, her gene line, her skincare line, 82 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: all the way, well, because I remember you doing it 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: all these Yeah, all the things that were coming up 84 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: for her and were oh my god, so much, so 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: much war would have came right unless if that strategy 86 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: would not happened. But I don't know if people really 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: give you the credit to how essential you were in 88 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: your mom's life. And I was very happy and being there, 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: being behind, you know, the cameras and be behind the seats. 90 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved being her right hand, her 91 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: right arm, and I love being with my siblings. So 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: when this opportunity came and my mom's manager at the time, 93 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: we were not going to necessarily name right now because 94 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of things happened there. But he 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: brought up this opportunity for both house. We knew him, 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: and then we met and we did this, and I 97 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: was not ready when we started okay filming, I was like, okay, 98 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Roxy's cool. Cool, Like we had a friendship in front 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: of cameras, and then it really developed into a real friendship. Yeah, 100 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: but a lot of things happened, and of course producers 101 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: had a lot to do with it, so a lot 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: of things were reality but cut in a way that 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: made it seem worse than it really was. Because let 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: me tell you, guys, let's keep it real, let's keep 105 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: it a butt. Yeah. We got paid thirty ten thousand 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: dollars you guys for the entire entire out of the show. 107 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why I remember that because 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: people were like, almost god, it made a lot of 109 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: but no, her bread and butter was radio. Yeah, and 110 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: that's why she was like, Okay, I gotta be there, 111 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: but I told you, guys, I have this gig, so 112 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not. She didn't keep she didn't leave me. Hang me. 113 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: What happens was she had a prior commitment. Yeah, I 114 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: had to do a live broadcast in the Dominican Republic. 115 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: I had told him. I said, hey, I could do 116 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: this show, but you have to remember that my radio 117 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: gig is my my main priority here. But of course 118 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: I could, you know, work around it and fit in 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: a reality show tapeing, you know, but work with me. 120 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna work with you. And then it 121 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: just seemed like as the show was developing, it was like, no, 122 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: we need to shoot on this dand and I was like, 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: I told you I had a live appearance this day. 124 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: I told you how to be on air this day. 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: I told you how it's true. This is true, And 126 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: it just seemed like I was being put like obstacle 127 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: after obstacle. And so that last episode, which I know 128 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: y'all remember, we were supposed to be at a club 129 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: and I don't know what we were celebrating, but we were. 130 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: We were filming at a club in Hollywood, yes, And 131 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: it made it seem like you were waiting for me 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: and waiting for me, and I never showed up because 133 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't even in town. I was the figure got 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: mad at her and everything was like, wait, that's not yeah, 135 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: and she gives knew where I was at felt like 136 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: I hated her or I left her out, would never 137 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: like I am not that person. But I am a 138 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: person that has integrity when it comes to my work. 139 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: And I communicated that to production, and they, when they 140 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: had it, still shot that episode without me. Yeah, and 141 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: I knew too, by the way, Yeah, I know all 142 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: of this too, because I think, oh, Jenny was ight 143 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: at her and that's not the truth is I'm mad. 144 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I've never super cool and I knew. But again, I 145 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: was young. I didn't have a backbone. I was scared. 146 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, well, this is my first time. 147 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: That is what I got to do. Is there telling 148 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: me what to do? And that's just the truth of it. Like, yeah, 149 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: now if I can go back and be like, well 150 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: wait a second, that's now, you can't do that to me. Now, 151 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you know, I vocal, and I gotta say, like, 152 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: to see your evolution fifteen years ago to now, it's 153 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: so beautiful see it because you really didn't have a backbone. 154 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I did it like you really even though you were 155 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: like the backbone of the whole operation. You never sim it. Yeah, 156 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: they are like you were more you did what you 157 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: were told. Now you're just like I was seeking people's approval. 158 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to disappoint anyone. I didn't want to 159 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: ruffle any feathers. I first so long in my life, 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I carried myself that way until I woke up one 161 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: day I was like, hold the fuck up on the phone. 162 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: I can't do this, especially when my mom passed. After 163 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: my mom passed, I was like I got to put 164 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: all my big girl pantings like I think. That's when 165 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, Like things have to 166 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: change because my mom was like protector. She has a 167 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: person that protected me and I always just need on her. 168 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: So it was kind of like God saying, girl, you 169 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: need to step it up now. But back then, I'll 170 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: say it straight up, No, I didn't have a backbone. 171 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: I was just doing what the producer told me, and 172 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: it was a reality show. But let me tell you, 173 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: guys that there were a lot of things that we 174 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: had to re enact or that we had to say. 175 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: It's just the truth. That's how it worked. I mean, 176 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to disappoint you guys, but reality shows are 177 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: not what these seems to be, Okay, And that's all 178 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: reality yeah shows. And I'm grateful, trust me, I'm grateful 179 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: because that opened up the doors for me. And yes, 180 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: I made we made thirteen thousand dollars for the entire season. 181 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: I was like balling, y'all. Yeah, we were falling. And 182 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I remember, I'm telling you, I remember the amount because 183 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I bought a boyfriend of mine that needed a car 184 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: back there, the six thousand dollars car. And then I 185 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: bought myself, yes, a temper repeated temperpeedic right, yeah, temper 186 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: pedic mattress. I sure did. And that that's where all 187 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: my moneyway, I'll never forget. And I was like, because 188 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to forget temper Peeda four thousand dollars freaking 189 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what I was saying. But anyways, people like, 190 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: oh they became rich and famous, Like no, it was 191 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: a great opportunity. He really was what he was and 192 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I loved working with you and I had I had 193 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: a great time and I learned a lot and we 194 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: had we experienced a lot because of the show, so 195 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: that I'm grateful for it. But yeah, going on red carpet, 196 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: I remember us going to red carpet and I would hid, 197 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: I would ride behind Rocks. I was like no, She's 198 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: like you you better stop, and she said you better 199 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: answer that question. She'd pushed me. She's like, you're answering it, 200 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, because the thing is this, It 201 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: was Jennity that represents Sheki is a roxy right, Jenny's daughter. 202 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: So the media, we already know how they are when 203 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: it comes to the Rivetta family. They're nosy, they prow 204 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: they so we were both the stars of the show, 205 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: but they wanted to like ask you, like how was 206 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: it your mom and how is it? So when we 207 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: would be on red carpets, yes, they would talk to 208 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: both of us, but they wanted to go to you first, 209 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: which is understandable. But then she wouldn't talk. So I 210 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: was like the voice for both of us, and I'm like, 211 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, and this is just learn how to and 212 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: then you would just you hated it. That wasn't your 213 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: thing because your mom was always the one that would 214 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: She was always a mouth piece. And then it just 215 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: got to a point where I was like, they want 216 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you, like I'm just gonna be quiet, 217 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: and you just got it. And then you just kind 218 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: of you just realized like, Okay, I was pushing you 219 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: in my own kind strong way because like, yeah, when 220 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I met her people, I'm a I'm a I'm a 221 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: tough mentor because I feel like that's just the way 222 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: you learn. Then then you like that's how you learn 223 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: sek or swim. You're the do it or you don't, 224 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, And that's how you started learning. You started 225 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: learning your voice, and you ran the show behind the scenes. 226 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: Do you remember the concert that we went to your 227 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: mom when your mom had a concert in Vegas and 228 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: we all you probably don't let her about her line. 229 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: So we were filming a show. Your mom had a 230 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: concert in Vegas, and you were doing everything. You were 231 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: making sure like the merchant money had been collected and 232 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: you were making sure your mom boughted aid. That night 233 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: you were feeding Johnny, he was like in the green 234 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: room a sleep I think he was like eight years old. 235 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: And then that night we were planning on going to 236 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: the club in Hollywood, I mean in Hollywood in a 237 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: Vegas and we had set it up and then I 238 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: was in the room waiting for you and You're like, 239 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: rock So I'm not going to be able to go, man, Like, 240 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I have to take care. I think your mom was 241 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a little tipsy coming off of the stage. And Jennie 242 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: would get tipsy at the concert. If you ever saw 243 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: her at concert, see and enjoyed her thanking. And but yeah, 244 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: you were just you were the one that was putting 245 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: out fires all the time, you know. So that's why. 246 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: But it sounds like me, yeah, that's why. When I 247 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: when when all this happened, and I would hear the 248 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: stuff you were getting accused of, I was like, I know, 249 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: I was like an older sister that wanted to come 250 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: to your defense, but there was so much going on 251 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: that I couldn't. I didn't want to talk to you 252 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: at that point. It's just how do you how do 253 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: you even approach someone that their mom passes? Yeah, what 254 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: do you? You know what I mean? So it was a 255 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: crazy time. It was a crazy time. A lot of 256 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: it is a blur. A lot of twenty thirteen, twenty 257 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: fourteen is of blur, and I have so left the 258 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: memory because I'm just like, now my wait a side, kid, Like, 259 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot of traumatic things I just kind of put 260 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: to the side. I'm like, okay, order for me to 261 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: make it through this life through the next. I don't 262 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: know how many years I got to just put that 263 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: to the side, you know what I mean. But I 264 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: mean that's crazy, because that's the thing was. It was, 265 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, like we went to dinner the other 266 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: night and I told her, I said rock like, thank 267 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: you so much. Like I just I felt like we 268 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: never stopped talking and it wasn't that we stopped talking 269 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: for any particular reason. It's just life happened. Yeah, And 270 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: I think also, I wouldn't even be upset with you 271 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: if you were upset with like, dude, you guys left 272 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: me hanging like in reality, you guys left me hanging. 273 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: You guys made less me looking bad on the reality show. 274 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: And maybe I again that it have the voice to 275 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: defend you or to say, wait, guys, it wasn't like that, 276 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: which I don't really care to people think of me. Yeah, 277 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: that's what I love about y'all can pay me in 278 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: whatever whatever you want to think of me in your head. 279 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm really not in the business of its swinging myself. 280 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: What happened happened or let me tell you what happened 281 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: to see me and Jeanne like you could think what 282 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: you want, because I think people sometimes because they're your 283 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: follower or your family to an explanation like get into 284 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: it and speak on my tholo. And it's just like, 285 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: and I learned that that I don't have to If 286 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about certain things, great, but 287 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't have to, yeah, you know. And it took 288 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: me a while to learn that as well, because at 289 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: first I was like, no, well with everything that happened. 290 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: But before we get into everything that happened, I do 291 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: want to say that I'm grateful, you know what I mean, 292 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: And I don't want to get emotional, but I'm grateful 293 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: for you. I'm grateful that you taught me the ropes, 294 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: that you were patient with me, that you you're like 295 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: this is how you do, and you taught me and 296 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: you were never you always celebrating, you celebrate women. It's 297 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: not just this is what I'm saying and what I 298 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: portray on social media like she really walks the talk. Yeah, 299 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: and I never felt that you were jealous or that 300 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: you felt like, oh, that's Jenny's daughter. They're giving your 301 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: a priority. Like you were just like, I'm I am 302 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: who I am. I feel good And if I had questions, 303 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: you were there. Yeah. You never like I don't know. 304 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: And that's something that I was like, I need people 305 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: to know that you play a huge part in who 306 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: I am today because I learned a lot from you. 307 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from you. So I wanted to 308 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: like put that out there, you guys, because I'm grateful 309 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: and I can't say that I learned it all myself 310 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: or no. I have people like roxy. Of course, people 311 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: like my mom. Yeah, but I just I felt they 312 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: need to say that. You know, your your mom was 313 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: so special too, man, like you want to work with 314 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: her and work with you. But I remember on our 315 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: way to the premiere that was at like the place 316 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Oh yes, yes, our show was premiering, and 317 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: it was like we were Yeah, your mom would get 318 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: when your mom would get into storytelling, she was like, 319 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, rocks there. I remember this one in the 320 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: house you're performing in Mexico and she would just tell 321 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: me these stories and she was she was another that 322 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: another person that literally was one of one. And you're 323 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: just like so honored and faithful that that I worked 324 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: with her and that I got to share space with 325 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: her and stories and really see like she was a diva. 326 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, she was at in her own way, but 327 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: like certain people I feel can get away with being 328 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: das because they're that dope. Yeah you're like, you know what, 329 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: look yet get out gaa. And and to know that 330 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: she spreakled that in you and that yeah, you might've 331 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: been behind the scenes most of the time, but yeah, 332 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: you're not anymore. And honestly, sometimes I think about it. 333 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder if Chekis would be who she 334 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: was if her mom was still here, you know, like 335 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: she protected you a lot from the business she did, 336 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: and it's just like, you know, how would that be, 337 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Like do you ever sit there and think about, like, yeah, 338 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: when I be who I am with my mom was 339 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: not here, Like would she support my career because we don't, 340 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: you don't know, you know what, I'm gonna keep it real, 341 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so I feel like it's all God's 342 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: divine plan it is. You know, do I wish my 343 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: mother was here? Absolutely, I wish she was here to 344 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: see everything that I'm doing. But also I do feel 345 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: that my mom protected me so much that even if 346 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to sing or whatever, because she's like, Okay, 347 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: I'll support you if you want to sing, but that's 348 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: not the career I want for you. If you want 349 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: to maybe be an actress, but a singer. This shit 350 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: is hard. This ship is very hard for women, and 351 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't want you to go through that, you know. 352 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: And I think she would have just been like, I 353 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I think about it, and I think about 354 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: it too, you know what I mean. I don't know, 355 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: what do you think? I don't I don't know. I 356 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: don't know if she would have supported your seeing career. 357 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if she would have been like, okay, 358 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: like am I cool? My daughter? Weigh in line. Grammy's like, 359 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: is she gonna like, am I gonna support that dream? 360 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Or is she gonna, you know, way become my competition? 361 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: You know? You just the yeah, Because the thing is, 362 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: and this goes for a lot of women that their 363 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: mom had them at a young age. My mom and 364 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: my sister we talk about this all the time of 365 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: the podcast. My mom had my sister at seventeen, your 366 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: mom had you at fifteen. Yes, So that relationship when 367 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: a mom has their first born at such a young age, 368 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: it's rocky. And it's not just it's not just Jenny 369 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: and Chee's y'all, it's my sister and my mom. It's 370 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: a lot of women that may be watching this podcast 371 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: that are like, uh, yeah, that's me, and you know, 372 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I pray that y'all healed that relationship. Unfortunately, that wasn't 373 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: the case in with you and your mom because she 374 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: got you were you know, but my sister, my mom 375 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: had definitely healed and talked it out. But that age gap, 376 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it's like you're you're growing up with your mom. You're 377 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: growing up. That's tough, my mom. What I always say, 378 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: it didn't come with the manual, like I don't know 379 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: what to do with you. And we were so close, 380 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: we were sisters, we were everything to one another. So 381 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: it's like for a long time, I mean, I did 382 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: find myself career resentment towards my mom. But when you 383 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: know she left, you know, of course, because of how 384 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: everything is left, I was like, I want yeah, I'm 385 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: just like what am I? Yeah? And thank goodness, you know, 386 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: I look back and I'm like, damn, we've made it 387 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: this far and just I mean, and I'm not talking 388 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: about success. I'm talking about just emotionally, how we were 389 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: able to get here, you know, all of my siblings 390 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: and I and I don't know. I mean, but the 391 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: way the way the media reigned like rained down on you, 392 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: the hatred and the theist I mean, if you are 393 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: not raised by a strong woman like your mom and 394 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: God by your side, and that could have destroyed anybody 395 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: as the way people came down on you. And I 396 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: want to deceible comments on social media. I'm not sometimes 397 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm on your social media and looking at your comments 398 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: and not I'm like that big sister that wants to 399 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: come to the rescue hear you, and like sometimes hop 400 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: or not. Sometimes maybe in my head I typed some 401 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: people that is illading because that all goes, you know, 402 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: because that all get people coming after me, which is okay, 403 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: y'all can come after me. I block everybody anyways, yeah bye. 404 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: But the way people were come at for you, I'm 405 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: just like, Wow, if y'all only knew how boyle of 406 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: the daughter you were to your mom and I don't 407 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: know because their own conclusions. There was this real were 408 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: going around that I slept with my stepdad with my 409 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: golf's husband, which is absolutely not true, and it just 410 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: it was crazy, you guys, Thank goodness, that is freaking 411 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. Yeah, we left it there. But at 412 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's a part of my guess, 413 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: my story, yes, you know it is. Whether I want 414 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: to admit it, whether it sounds cute or not. I mean, 415 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: the truth is, it's part of my story. And how 416 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, I had to just the adversity and all 417 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: the freaking hate. I really thought, I swear to you, Roxy, 418 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: I thought that I was gonna go to the just 419 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: the grocery store, and so I was just gonna come 420 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: and stepp, I swear to you. There were some I 421 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: was like, you were that feutiful. Yeah, they're gonna come 422 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: and steppy because these people are probably believing what is 423 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: being said. That's why I went out of my way. 424 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: I did interviews, I wrote books. I was like, I'm 425 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: not going to allow the beautiful relationship that my mom 426 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: and I had to be destroyed in that way with 427 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: such a horrible life, you know what I mean. I'm 428 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: not saying that I'm perfect at this, no, no, but that's 429 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: one thing I never, oh never got done. I was, 430 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: first of all, I too scared of my mother, you 431 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And not only yeah, I like 432 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: I respect women. I really like there's I was so 433 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: happy for my mom, Like I just don't now I'm 434 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: starting to see certain things and maybe one day I'll 435 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: talk about that. I'm like, Okay, this person was definitely 436 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: behind it, you know. And it's like they you know, 437 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: like that would definitely be me in my head, Like 438 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: who macks that nasty seed in like mom's head? Yeah. 439 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's people that you expect that would stir 440 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: the pot and you're just like expect what wow that 441 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: you think? Love you? It's are supposed to keep the 442 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: family together, and in reality they're planting little seeds just 443 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: so that they can have the position you had. A 444 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: lot of people were jealous of what my mom and 445 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: I had. It was my mom and I like this 446 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: for everything. Well you remember that that that cover you guys, 447 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: it was it a cover for that. It was like 448 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: your mom and you like bosses and yes, oh my god, 449 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: I have that I have my glam room, but that 450 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: was one of the first things that was in twenty eleven, 451 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: and people wanted that position in person, wanted that position 452 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: that MM and I had. So it's like, you know what, 453 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I know that God 454 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: is gonna, little by little put everything in its place, 455 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: and I'm not worried about it. And yeah, her chooses 456 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: to believe that. Honestly, I'm at a point where before 457 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to show you guys, I'm 458 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: not this person. I'm like, I was come this sick. Sorry, 459 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: I know who I am. Think what you want to think? Like, 460 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: I know who I am, and God would have brought me, 461 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: brought me this far. And my mom because I know 462 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: she's you know, my mom's moving huzzles and doing her 463 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: thing up there if if that was true, you know 464 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. I love I love seeing how in 465 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: control of your life you aren't out and how certain 466 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: these are like the private. Yeah, you're not out there 467 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: explaining yourself. You're allowing people like you see it, you 468 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: sense it, you feel it more importantly, And I love 469 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: that because you're not out there explaining yourself to everybody. 470 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: It's and you know what you you radiate the happiness. 471 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: I love that you're happy in your relationship. Like you 472 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: keep that private, you know, like one day you just 473 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: need to pop up, Pop up Mary. Nobody needs to 474 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: know your ceremony that only the real ones pull up. 475 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Mind you. I do feel there are certain things that 476 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: I share because I feel like that's part of my 477 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: mission and the world is through the things that I've 478 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: been through. I want to help people grow and stuff 479 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: like that. But there are certain things that now I'm like, 480 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: I want to keep to myself. I'm I'm a human 481 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: being too. I don't necessarily have to share everything with everyone. 482 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: And I felt like I was obligated, like and it was. 483 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: It was an obligation because I'm an artists, because I'm 484 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: on TV, because I have a podcast, I have to 485 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: share everything. There's certain things that I'm like, no, I'm 486 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna keep this to myself and it's later on I 487 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. 488 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Everyone is entitled to their privacy and so nice. Even 489 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: if I am you know, a public figure, which there 490 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: are ladies. I swear to you and I don't know 491 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: if this happened to you but they'll come up to 492 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: me and you know, I'm eating. I'm in the middle 493 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: of me o. Literally. No. First of all, that is 494 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: so rude whenever you see a celebrity eating it, especially 495 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: if it see bacco, disturb me and ask me for 496 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: picture and they get so excited that they will. And 497 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: see I've never said no. I don't one time I 498 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: said no to a picture and I said eating, I'm 499 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: gonna say no. Yeah, I know because I see all 500 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: the road christ that's my moment. My mom was like, 501 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: come on, and but they'll tell me straight up and 502 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I like, who does that? Yeah? Yeah? 503 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: And before I was like okay, well, now I'm like, okay, 504 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: well see a woman deta. You know, now I'll say it. 505 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm polite about it. But but you know what now 506 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: like no, no, I'm also I'm a human being too, 507 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: So there's something beautiful about being mysterious. There's something beautiful 508 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: about it. There's where like like not everybody knows everything. 509 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: That's what I love about the media. Actually, my partner 510 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: he's not all like that social media. He posts once 511 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: and I tell him, baby, you gotta post some more 512 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: for your like photography and he's always busy. But I'm like, 513 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: you'd be a lot busy here. He's like, I'm good 514 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: with as busy as I am. I was like, well, 515 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: post on your work all people to see how talented 516 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: you are. But he's chill. And I love tell us selfies. 517 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I can't. Oh, I can't. Man that post selfies that 518 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: they pop at their lips. Listen, I don't know about that, girl. 519 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't know business man that's about his business that 520 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: they posting on social media. I love a man that 521 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: isn't half social. Me too, because I'm sure that your 522 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: fans and news channels they all but look at his 523 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: pain and oh yeah, and they'll send him little things there. 524 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: People are mean. People are mean. They'll send him like oh, 525 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: she used to call her exdus or shes or and 526 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: before I used to bother him. Now and he's like, 527 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: oh he knows, he knows. Yeah, yeah, that's what he's like. 528 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: You know, But he's chill, he's true. I like that. 529 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah like that. I love that. And being a mama, girl, 530 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: I love being a mom. Let me say, my daughter 531 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: is a manifestation of my dreams. I prayed about her. 532 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I visualized, girl. Remember when we used to do vision board. Yeah. 533 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's a vision board man. Remember 534 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: we were absolutely at the house making vision boards and 535 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: like me, I think we did an entire episode on vision. 536 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: You wanted to do conferences. Yeah. So when I tell 537 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: you that the way my daughter looks, I brought my daughter, y'all, 538 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: so she's felt so good. I swear to you, it's 539 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: that I'm not even that, it's that pif Literally, she's 540 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: so beautiful. Her head is like perfectly wound round. She's 541 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: smells delicious. Her little hand she's talking, she's just like 542 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: once sale, she's just so cute, not like saying words, 543 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: but she's like she's babbled, she's babbling. Yeah, And listen, 544 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that I had a baby for you 545 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: because now whenever you wanted to say be your coach 546 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: and like, hell, you know what. My mom was actually 547 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: telling me that that she had a dream the other 548 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: day that I should help women that feel helpless because 549 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: this is the the doctors. Okay, a lot of women 550 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: at pcos and suffer from like infertility, and it's it's 551 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: not as easy as it was getting pregnant, y z 552 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: as it was back in the absolutely women back then 553 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: balas right, women these days they struggle. Yeah, so they're 554 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: doing like I yes, and and a surrogate a different things. Right. 555 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: So my mom goes, I feel that you should give 556 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: because I prepared my body cheese to get pregnant two 557 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: years prior to getting pregnant. I legit prepared my body. 558 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: It's like laying the foundation to like a house. I 559 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: knew there were certain things that I had to do. 560 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: I had to I had cysts on my ovaries, got 561 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: rid of those naturally with herbs, and then I started 562 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: seeing up for herbologists. I started getting yony scenes. Remember 563 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: I was slunging you the other day, a Yoni scenes. 564 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: If you don't know bout Yoni scenes, listen, you need 565 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: to start getting yoni and steam all in the vagina. Okay, 566 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: goshold me about this. I was I need girl and 567 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: and like it regulates your p H and if immediately 568 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: eats you up, now he's gonna eat you up even Okay, 569 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be able to rest chapters. Okay, so 570 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: like sex hotng with that. This is how we were 571 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: all creating. Yeah, but so yeah, then I started taking 572 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: a fertility tea. I'm all about like I met a 573 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: she pot my uterus back in a place. So when 574 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: I tell you my daughter is a manifestation in my dreams, 575 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: she is. I prayed for her. The way she looks 576 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: now is I'm like, this is how I knew she 577 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: was gonna look like this. It's crazy. I believe in 578 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: that she's beautiful. And so I will say sometimes I 579 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: say I wish I would I had kids younger, right 580 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: like in my twenties, in my early thirties. But I'm 581 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: thankful that I had her when I had her because 582 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm patient. Yes, Like I think a lot of times 583 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: when young moms have kids at a young age to 584 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: the suspend, I'm like, ah, And I'm like, I'm not 585 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: in your rush to I try. I've traveled a lot 586 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna still travel. Yeah, we're going to assall 587 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: lot next month. With her. Nice. I think I had 588 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: a daughter to leave her behind. Yeah, everyone's like that, Yeah, 589 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: because I don't can see I didn't have a daughter 590 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: to leave her with the pandas Yeah, I know, God, Yeah, 591 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: you're in a different place. You're in a different place, 592 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: you're more patient, you know the knowledge that I'm going 593 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: to be you would have printed this little girl, and 594 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I get to be your coach. I get 595 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: to be your biggest in this little life. Everyone's like, 596 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: you didn't, you didn't. But she had a boy. I'm like, nope, 597 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: how can I teach a boy how to be amazing? Yeah? 598 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: I see, No, you're a total And when I have 599 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: another one, I want another's gonna be Oh my god. 600 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: I can already see you're you're a great mom. I 601 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: can already see. Like it's just I don't know. I 602 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: see you on social media, like everything you speak and 603 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: again you don't just say ship like you you're about 604 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: it about You're about it and in every way. So 605 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: I needs to imagine. I said, I'm so honored that 606 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: she picked me and that I and that I picked her. 607 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: But they say children pick their parents, yes, you know, 608 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Like so that's like that's just like your stuff. And 609 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm like my guys movies, I will I know they're 610 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: all on milk, serast that's that's admirable. And breastfeed her, 611 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: so like its breastfeeding. Just it checks you. You can't 612 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: dream too much. Alcohol, you shouldn't be you know, alcohol. 613 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: She can't really smoke cannabis everybody else. I'm a cannabis enthusiast. 614 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: You know that. I was gonna asked the other day, 615 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I can't because that bread speed. But you know the prymney, 616 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like our parents were hippies 617 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: and they were doing it too. It This is my 618 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: thing I all get into. The whole endo cannabinoids is 619 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: that you don't want me to get started with that, 620 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: But everybody has an endoc cannabinoids in their body, and 621 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: in reality, it helps your immune system when you consume 622 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: the flower the right way, the right way like c med. 623 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: The cannabinoids are actually super beneficial for the body. But 624 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: people don't. They only want to see the cannabis that 625 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: get too high. Right, And there's different and it's not 626 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: just that it's we need a whole episode on that, 627 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: because a lot, especially in our community's educated, especially the 628 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: older generation, that cannabis is is way better than drinking 629 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: a Thailand. Let me tell you, guys, I always say, 630 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, people goes down, Oh my God, that 631 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: I spoke with right now, I'm gonna clean, got very 632 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: deep cleansed. But when they found out that I smoked cannabis, 633 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: it was just like, oh my God, how could you 634 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: go like, wait a second, No, I have more babies, 635 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Yes you do. I want one more. I just want 636 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I can't imagine my life. I can't 637 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: imagine my life without my siblings. Yeah, can you know? 638 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I because and when you put it 639 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: that way, yeah, no, And a lot of women these 640 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: days are like one and done. And I'm like, I 641 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: get it because you know it. It ain't easy. It's 642 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: definitely worth it. But I cannot imagine my life without 643 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: my sister and my brother because we're tight, you know 644 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. They're so fateful that we're tight. And 645 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: I love that your mom instilled that in you too. 646 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: Is that No, Like your siblings are forever people and 647 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I love that you're 648 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: close to your siblings. So when I see my closest 649 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: or my siblings, I'm like, yeah, I want to get 650 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: on it. I know, I know, girl it okay? Would 651 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: you you don't mind if it's a boy or girl. 652 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: At this point, it's like whatever, I mean, I feel 653 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: like God's gonna give me what's meant for me. But 654 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: I definitely want another little Oh my God, yes, because 655 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: like we're so really yeah, like sure, dressing them up. 656 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: And I mean I could teach a woman how to 657 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: be great? Can I teach you? No? Yeah? You know that? Yeah? 658 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: See and see I have always in my life watered 659 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: a boy, and I think I always like I want 660 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: to be I want to have a boy. But I've 661 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: learned through therapy and through healing that the reason I 662 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: waited so long to have kids was because, of course 663 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm taking care of my siblings, but also it's that 664 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: I have been a mockery. Yeah, I've been. I went 665 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: out all of it, especially with Johnny and Jenica. Oh yeah, 666 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: those are your freaking mother a parent conferences. I did 667 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: it all, I did the homework. I it was I 668 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: did it all. I mean, so john was more mine, 669 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: I feel than even my mom did. Sometimes you know, 670 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: I should It's understandable. But also I think I waited 671 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to grow because I was afraid 672 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: of my mom and I had such a beautiful relationship, 673 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: but it was it was hard, you know that I 674 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: was like, oh what, I don't what if I have 675 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: a girl, and then we repeat things that I don't know. 676 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: I thought so many negative things and in reality, I'm like, wait, 677 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: a second. But if I do have a little girl 678 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: and I can mend and help that relationship, but hew 679 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: that relationship because times didn't allow it, you know. So 680 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: now I'm like, God, whatever you want me to have, 681 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna accept it. Yes. Yeah, but I could see 682 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: you having a little girl and doing things completely different 683 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: with your little girl because you know better. I'm older. 684 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: You know what boundaries are. Now, I'm so patty that 685 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: you know how to set boundaries and based with certain people. Yeah, 686 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: but boundaries are superper important and you understand that. So 687 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: like when you know how to do it another way, 688 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it a different way so that we 689 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, Because believe it or not, girl, there's a 690 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: lot of broken people raising broken humans. They're emotionally broken. 691 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: And I love that about you that you encourage therapy. 692 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Every human watching this needs to go to thera down. 693 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: I have a love the therapist since I was nineteen. 694 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: My parents got divorced fifteen and it affected me. So 695 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: when when you talk about therapy, when anybody talks about therapy, 696 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that local? At this point, you need 697 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: to address all the issues and listen, we all got issues, yeah, 698 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: all of us all of us. It doesn't have to 699 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: be oh I was, you know, because I was sexually abused, 700 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Like it could be anything and everything, and a lot 701 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: of people, especially man in our culture, where people think, well, 702 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: see what you know, if I go to counseling, it's 703 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: because something's wrong with me, And no, it's that we 704 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: all need to bounce ideas, let our feelings out with 705 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: someone that's not gonna that we're gonna feel good to 706 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: criticize it or we're shy. It's someone that's just completely 707 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: separated from your family. Yeah, yeah, I love that you 708 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: encourage your followers of therapy because I do. Do do it, 709 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: but your pride to the side and deal with it 710 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: because otherwise that haunts you for the rest of your 711 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: life and your neighbor. You're never able to have all 712 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: of your relationships a quality, that relationship with your siblings, 713 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: with your parents because you're just holy hot to old shit. Yes, 714 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: and it's like they get to see mm hm oh 715 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: my god. Exactly. I always tell you guys that you 716 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: guys have to release we have to release the baggage 717 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: and not there's there's no way that we're gonna be 718 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: able to be our best selves. If we're carrying old 719 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: ship literally old shiit well, Ron, thank you so much. 720 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: She thinks it's so it's so intimate in here. I 721 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: love it. You think have done a good job. I 722 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: wanted something very warm, and I wanted something like Apple 723 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: Hill that's gonna give you, like you know, nice point, 724 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna give you a little hugs. So I'm glad 725 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: to do that here. I'm grateful that you're here. And 726 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: I gotta go on your podcast. So tell us about 727 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: your podcast. So where can people find you? Yeah? So 728 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: our podcast mine and my sisters called straight Up Sisters. 729 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: The podcast, it's my older sister and me and so 730 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: the older sister and baby is the dynamic is real. 731 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: Susie is six years older than me, and she thinks 732 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: she's always right right because she's got mer life experiences. 733 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: We have a lot of opposing views on different things, 734 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: but it's all love at the end of the day. 735 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm not like I hate you. I mean we 736 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: we get into disagreements on the podcast. I'm like, no, 737 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: like that. What makes a strong relationship? Yeah, and so 738 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's the older sister and a 739 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: baby sister having a conversation on a set every day 740 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: and we talk our shit. We talk our shit but 741 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot of two and Susie is right, you know 742 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm like, damn yeah, she's like seventy 743 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: thirty percent of the time. Right. Do you ever tell 744 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: your siblings that no, I don't, but I should. Shit 745 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: be good. I told you so. Yeah, because a lot 746 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, you guys have more life experience. You get 747 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: the baby. Yeah, yeah, like you good guy, Jennica, because 748 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: she's the baby right, So it's it's fun. We have 749 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: such a good time if we're on all digital platforms. 750 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: Straight up. Sisters of the podcast, Susie, I love you. 751 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: I missed you girl. I know she loves you too. 752 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: She was so happy that I was coming to day. 753 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: She's like, tell her, she's just gonna be on my 754 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: podcast and she's like, you know what, I know, I'm gonna. 755 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there with her because she's the oldest, 756 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna ask herself that 757 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: maybe people are free to ask her. And I'm like, 758 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: and I'm sure she'll have to make sure. I will, 759 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: yeah will, So Susie bring it on, baby girl and 760 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: her mom two sat in my mom that she made 761 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: she gave me my first call on. Yeah, most she did. 762 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: Did your mom gave me my first colonate way back 763 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: in the day? Girl? Really is okay? Can you tell 764 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: that people like kalonics are not painful? Colonies are not people. 765 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: They're a little uncomfortably it could be a little comfortable, 766 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: but they're not painful. They're that painful and they're great 767 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: for you. So it was because of her mom that 768 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: I started like getting into it. So thanks, you know, 769 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: shout out to your mom. Yeah, do you want to 770 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: share your socials? Yeah? My social is at roxyes World. 771 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: So the cool thing about Roxy's World and the way 772 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: I spell my name is it's our a Q capital C. Yes, 773 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: so nobody else has that name on. I love that 774 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: one of a kind, one of one. Yeah. So it's 775 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: the rocky r a Q capital seed. Roxyes World up 776 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: everything and every weege Snapchat. You got sapchat please? Yeah? 777 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: I love Snapchat. Yeah, I love it. You're really good 778 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: at it. You're really good. Like I'm like, I sit 779 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: there and I watch it. I'm like I buy the 780 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: stuff that she posts to I say, stree shots and 781 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh girl, I gotta remember her by this. 782 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I follow her so bros A, that's a 783 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: greed backbone. Now, thank you, thank god. It's like you 784 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: had no the choice. I had no the choice. I 785 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: had to put on my big girl panties. I was like, 786 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: all right, cool, my mama, here, I gotta I gotta 787 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: be the one to protect my siblings. And I so yeah, 788 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: you do good? You do? You so good at that, Brett. 789 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: That's what older sisters do. Y'all got our bats forever. 790 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, Roxy Lovett. I know, 791 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: thank you never again, don't never let go my gardes. 792 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: I know. Thank you guys so much. Guy, if you 793 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed this conversation and I will catch you on the 794 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: next episode of Cheeky Isn't Chill? Do you need advice 795 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: on love, relationships, health emas. I'm so excited to share 796 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: with you that my Cheekies and Chill podcast will have 797 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: an extra episode drop each week. I'll be answering all 798 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: your questions. 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