1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: We gotta set the story straight because we have to people. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what's up. That's I don't know. People 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: think we're like rival enemy. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: And yes, I made we made thirteen thousand dollars for 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: the entire season. I was like ballin, y'all, Yeah, we're falling. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: How would that be? Like do you ever sit there 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and think about like, yeah, when I be who I 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: am with? My mom was not here, Like would she 9 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: support my career? 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: Hello, my beautiful people, and welcome to another episode of 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: Cheeky's and Chill, your absolute favorite podcast one world. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: And today is going to be an amazing episode. 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: So get ready and you're gonna want to sit down 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: for this one because we're gonna set the story straight today. Okay, 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: I have a special guest, some one that I'm known 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: for a very long time. She is a self proclaimed 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: queen of Spanish media entrepreneur. She is also a podcast 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: host and a brand. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: New mama and a mama. See that her name is Roxy? 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: I like that. 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Be it? Yeah, honestly I okay, So we got to 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: said the story straight because we have to people. 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what's up. That's I don't know. People 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: think we're like rival enemy. Yeah, was it the it 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: was the. 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: Last episode of Chicks and Roxy or what. Yeah, that's 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: what it was. Okay, that's what it was. People think 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: I left you hanging. People think I did thirty because 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: I had to go handle some business when I was 30 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: on traditional radio and it just, you know, production just 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: kind of did what it did, and it was like what, Yeah, 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: we really kind of didn't have a lot of sake 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: so in that show, like we thought we did, but 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: we kind of did it. 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, we were both new to the reality show. 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: I was definitely not an executive producer. Then. 37 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: I was just a girl that was coming out of 38 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: her mama's house. Still lived in my mama's house. Yeah, 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: and it was like girls. So so basically, for those 40 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: of you that don't know, I started my career off 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: in reality. So it was Cheese and Roxy presented by 42 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Jenny rivera Chicks and Roxy, okay, and Roxy was very 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: well known Roxy. She you were a radio I started 44 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: by radio career fresh out of high school. Yeah, and 45 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: then I onto a station back in the day's called 46 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: Latino ninety six three and two thousand and five, interviewed 47 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: your mom's a few times, got a pretty buzz with 48 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: her one time, like on air, she would never not 49 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: come to the studio with the bottle of thing. 50 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: That's not all of them. Yeah yeah, yeah. 51 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: Then when they presented this opportunity to work with Jenny's daughter, 52 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: which was you, we literally I think. I don't think 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people understand that we kind of were 54 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: getting to know each other on the show as we were. 55 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: People thought, and we're going to be straight up because 56 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: so many years ago, people thought we were friends before 57 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: we had met before. 58 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Yes, for the show though, They're. 59 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: Like, let's get to latinas they're doing their things so 60 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: that they can inspire other latinas. 61 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be behind the cameras. 62 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: I'm too shy, Like I was not. 63 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Nowhere near like I felt ready, you know what I mean, 64 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: And you were You were more marinated more like you 65 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: knew what you were doing. And that's why I was like, 66 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: I want out, first of all, set the story straight, 67 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 2: set the record straight, and then also let people know 68 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: how and where everything started with me, because it had 69 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: a lot to do with you girl. A lot of 70 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: people don't know that because I was very shy, I 71 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: was there. You were super behind the scene, you were 72 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: your mother's net. Like without you, I don't know if 73 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: your mom would have been able to build the empire 74 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: that she built, you know, and like, yeah, she was 75 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: the senior of the performer, but as you know, as 76 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: I know that, it takes the team to become absolutely 77 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: who you are and to build the empire, and so yeah, 78 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: I got to see you be that for your mom. 79 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: So many times, and it was like wow, you know, 80 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: like what'd your mom be who she was without you? 81 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: I know a lot of times that she wouldn't be 82 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: able to do what she did if it wasn't for me. 83 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: And I'm not changing my own born, but I actually 84 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: saw you do it that I don't know, you were. 85 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: So so bad in the scenes. But if people wonder, 86 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: like why she gets to be successful in her own 87 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: businesses out because you kind of formulated all that for 88 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: your mom, her gene. 89 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Line, her skincare line, all the way, well. 90 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: Because I remember you doing it all these Yeah, all 91 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: the things that were coming up for her and were 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: oh my god, so much, so much war would have 93 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: came right unless if that strategy would not happened. But 94 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if people really give you the credit 95 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: to how essential. 96 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: You were in your mom's life. 97 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: And I was very happy in being there, being behind, 98 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 2: you know, the cameras and be behind the seats. 99 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I loved it. 100 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: I loved being her right hand, her right arm, and 101 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: I love being with my siblings. So when this opportunity 102 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: came and my mom's manager at the time, we were 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: not going to necessarily name right now because. 104 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of things happened there. 105 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: But he brought up this opportunity for both house we 106 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: knew him, and then we met and we did this, 107 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: and I was not ready when we started okay filming, 108 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Roxy's cool. Cool, Like we had 109 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: a friendship in front of cameras, and then it really 110 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: developed into a real friendship. Yeah, but a lot of 111 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: things happened, and of course producers had a lot to 112 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: do with it, so a lot of things were. 113 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Reality but cut in a way that made. 114 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: It seem worse than it really was. Because let me 115 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: tell you, guys, let's keep it real, let's keep it 116 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: a butt. Yeah, we got paid. 117 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: Thirty ten thousand dollars you guys for the entire entire 118 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: out of the show. And I'm gonna tell you why. 119 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: I remember that because people were like, almost god, it 120 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: made a lot of but no, her bread and butter 121 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: was radio. Yeah, and that's why she was like, Okay, 122 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: I gotta be there, But I told you guys, I 123 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: have this gig, so I'm not. 124 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: She didn't keep she didn't leave me. Hang me. What 125 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: happens was she had a prior commitment. Yeah, I had 126 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: to do a live broadcast in the Dominican Republic. I 127 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: had told him. 128 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: I said, hey, I could do this show, but you 129 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: have to remember that my radio gig is my my 130 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: main priority here. But of course I could, you know, 131 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: work around it and fit in a reality show tapeing, 132 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, but work with me. 133 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna work with you. 134 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: And then it just seemed like as the show was developing, 135 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: it was like, no, we need to shoot on this 136 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: dand and I was like, I told you I had 137 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: a live appearance this day. 138 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: I told you how to be on air this day. 139 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: I told you how it's true, this is true, And 140 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: it just seemed like I was being put like obstacle 141 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: after obstacle. And so that last episode, which I know 142 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 2: y'all remember, we were supposed to be at a club 143 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: and I don't know what we were celebrating, but we were. 144 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: We were filming at a club in Hollywood, yes, And 145 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: it made it seem like you were waiting for me 146 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: and waiting for me, and I never showed up because 147 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't even in town. I was the figure got 148 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: mad at her and everything was like, wait, that's not yeah, 149 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: and she. 150 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Gets knew where I was at fet like I hated 151 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: her or I left her out, would never like I 152 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: am not that person, but I am a person that 153 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: has integrity when it comes to my work. 154 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: And I communicated that to production shit and they when 155 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: they had it still shot that episode without me. Yeah. 156 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: And I knew too, by the way, Yeah, I know 157 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: all of this too because I think, oh, Jenny was 158 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: ight at her and that's not the truth, is Jen, 159 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm mad. I've never super cool and I knew. But again, 160 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: I was young. I didn't have a backbone. I was scared. 161 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, this is my first time. 162 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: That is what I got to do. Is there telling 163 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: me what to do? And that's just the truth of it. Like, yeah, 164 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: now if I can go back and be like, well 165 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: wait a second, that's now, you can't do that to me. Now, 166 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you know, I vocal, and I gotta say, like, 167 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: to see your evolution fifteen years ago to now, it's 168 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: so beautiful see it because you really didn't have a backbone. 169 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: I did it like you really even though you were 170 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: like the backbone of the whole operation. 171 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: You never sim it. Yeah, they are like you were 172 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: more you did what you were told. 173 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: Now you're just like I was seeking people's approval. I 174 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: didn't want to disappoint anyone. 175 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want to ruffle any feathers. 176 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: I first so long in my life, I carried myself 177 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: that way until I woke up one day I was like, 178 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: hold the fuck up. 179 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: On the phone. 180 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: I can't do this, especially when my mom passed. After 181 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: my mom passed, I was like I got to put 182 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: all my big girl pantings like I think. That's when 183 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: I was like, wait a second, Like things have to 184 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: change because my mom was like protector. She has a 185 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: person that protected me and I always just need on her. 186 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: So it was kind of like God saying, girl, you 187 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: need to step it up now. But back then, I'll 188 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: say it straight up, No, I didn't have a backbone. 189 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: I was just doing what the producer told me, and 190 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: it was a reality show. But let me tell you, 191 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: guys that there were a lot of things that we 192 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: had to re enact or that we had to say. 193 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: It's just the truth. That's how it worked. I mean, 194 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to disappoint you guys, but reality shows are 195 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: not what these seems to be, Okay, And that's all 196 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: reality yeah shows. And I'm grateful, trust me, I'm grateful 197 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: because that opened up the doors for me. And yes, 198 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: I made we made thirteen thousand. 199 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Dollars for the entire season. I was like balling, y'all. Yeah, 200 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: we were falling. 201 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: And I remember, I'm telling you, I remember the amount 202 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: because I bought a boyfriend of mine that needed a 203 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: car back there, the six thousand dollars car. And then 204 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: I bought myself, yes, a temper repeated temperpeedic right, yeah, 205 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: temper pedic mattress. 206 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: I sure did. And that that's where all my moneyway, 207 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. 208 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, because I wanted to forget temper 209 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: Peeda four thousand dollars freaking I don't know what I 210 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: was saying, but anyways, people like, oh it we became 211 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: rich and famous, Like no, it was a great opportunity. 212 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: He really was what he was and I loved working 213 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: with you and I had I had a great time 214 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: and I learned a lot and we had we experienced 215 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: a lot because of the show, so that I'm grateful for. 216 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, going on red carpet, I remember us going 217 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: to red carpet and I would hide, I would ride 218 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: behind Rocks. 219 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: I was like no, She's like you you better stop, 220 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: and she said you better answer that question. She'd pushed me. 221 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: She's like, you're answering it and I'm like, oh, because 222 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: the thing is this. It was Jennity that represents is 223 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: a roxy right, Jenny's daughter. 224 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: So the media, we already know how they are when 225 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: it comes to the Rivetta family. They're nosy, they prow 226 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: they so we were both the stars of the show, 227 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: but they wanted to like ask you, like how was 228 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: it your mom and how is it? So when we 229 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: would be on red carpets, yes, they would talk to 230 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: both of us, but they wanted to go to you first, 231 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: which is understandable. 232 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: But then she wouldn't talk. So I was like the 233 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: voice for both of us, and I'm like, you know, 234 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: this is just learn how to and then you would 235 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: just you hated it. 236 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: That wasn't your thing because your mom was always the 237 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: one that would She was always a mouth piece. 238 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: And then it just got to a point where I 239 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: was like, they want to talk to you, like I'm 240 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: just gonna be quiet, and you just got it. 241 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: And then you just kind of you just realized like, Okay, 242 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: I was pushing you in my own kind strong way 243 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: because like, yeah, when I met her people, I'm a 244 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a tough mentor because I feel like 245 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: that's just the way you learn. Then then you like 246 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: that's how you learn sink or swim. You're the do 247 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: it or you don't, you know, And that's how you 248 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: started learning. You started learning your voice, and you ran 249 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: the show behind the scenes. Do you remember the concert 250 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: that we went to your mom when your mom had 251 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: a concert in Vegas and we all you probably don't 252 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: let her about her line. So we were filming a show. 253 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 2: Your mom had a concert in Vegas, and you were 254 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: doing everything. You were making sure like the merchant money 255 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: had been collected, and you were making sure your mom 256 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: boughted aid. That night you were feeding Johnny. He was 257 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: like in the green room a sleep. I think he 258 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: was like eight years old. And then that night we 259 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: were planning on going to the club in Hollywood, I 260 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: mean in Hollywood in a Vegas and we had set 261 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: it up and then I was in the room waiting 262 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: for you and You're like, rock So I'm not going 263 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: to be able to go, man, Like, I have to 264 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: take care. I think your mom was a little tipsy 265 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: coming off of the stage. 266 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: And Jennie would get tipsy at the concert if you 267 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: ever saw her at concert, see and enjoyed her thanking. 268 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: And but yeah, you were just you were the one 269 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: that was putting out fires all the time, you know, 270 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: So that's why. But it sounds like me, yeah, that's why. 271 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: When I when when all this happened, and I would 272 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: hear the stuff you were getting accused. 273 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: Of, I was like, I know, I was like an 274 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: older sister that wanted to come to your defense, but 275 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: there was so much going on that I couldn't. I 276 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: didn't want to talk to you at that point. It's 277 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: just how do you how do you even approach someone. 278 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: That their mom passes? Yea, what do you? You know what 279 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: I mean? So it was a crazy time. It was 280 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: a crazy time. A lot of it is a blur. 281 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: A lot of twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen is a blur, 282 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: and I have SI left the memory because I'm just like, now, 283 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: my wait a side, kid, Like a lot of traumatic 284 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: things I just kind of put to the side. I'm like, okay, 285 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: order for me to make it through this life through 286 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: the next. I don't know how many years I got 287 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: to just put that to the side, you know what 288 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean. But I mean that's crazy because that's the 289 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: thing was. It was, I don't know, like we went 290 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: to dinner the other night and I told her, I 291 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: said rock like, thank you so much. Like I just 292 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: I felt like we never stopped talking and it wasn't 293 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: that we stopped talking for any particular reason. It's just 294 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: life happened. Yeah, And I think also I wouldn't even 295 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: be upset with you if you were upset with like, dude, 296 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: you guys left me hanging like in reality, you guys 297 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: left me hanging. 298 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: You guys made less me looking bad on the reality show. 299 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: And maybe I again that it have the voice to 300 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: defend you or to say, wait, guys, it wasn't like that, 301 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: which I don't really care to people think of me. Yeah, 302 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: that's what I love about y'all can pay me in 303 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: whatever whatever you want to think of me in your head. 304 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm really not in the business of its splaning myself. 305 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: What happened happened or let. 306 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: Me tell you what happened to see me and Jeanne 307 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: like you could think what you want, because I think 308 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: people sometimes because they're your follower or your family. 309 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: To an explanation like get into it and speak on 310 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: my tholo. And it's just like, and I learned that 311 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: that I don't have to If I want to tell 312 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: you about certain things, great, but I don't have to, yeah, 313 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: you know. 314 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: And it took me a while to learn that as well, 315 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: because at first I was like, no, well with everything 316 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: that happened. But before we get into everything that happened, 317 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: I do want to say that I'm grateful, you know 318 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: what I mean, And I don't want to get emotional, 319 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: but I'm grateful for you. I'm grateful that you taught 320 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: me the ropes, that you were patient with me, that 321 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: you you're like this is how you do, and you 322 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: taught me and you were never you always celebrating, you 323 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: celebrate women. 324 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: It's not just this is what I'm saying and what 325 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I portray on social media like she really walks the talk. 326 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I never felt that you were jealous or 327 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: that you felt like, oh, that's Jenny's daughter. They're giving 328 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: your a priority. Like you were just like, I'm I 329 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: am who I am. I feel good And if I 330 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: had questions. 331 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: You were there. Yeah. You never like I don't know. 332 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: And that's something that I was, like, I need people 333 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: to know that you play a huge part in who 334 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: I am today because I learned a lot from you. 335 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from you. 336 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: So I wanted to like put that out there, you guys, 337 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: because I'm grateful and I can't say that I learned it. 338 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: All myself or no. I have people like roxy. Of course, 339 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: people like my mom. Yeah, but I just I felt 340 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: they need to say that. You know. 341 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: So your your mom was so special too, man, like 342 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: you want to work with her and work with you. 343 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: But I remember on our way to the premiere that 344 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: was at like the place in Hollywood. Oh yes, yes, 345 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: our show was premiering, and it was like we were Yeah, 346 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: your mom would get when your mom would get into storytelling, 347 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: she was like, you know, rocks there. 348 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: I remember this one in. 349 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: The house you're performing in Mexico and she would just 350 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: tell me these stories and she was she was another 351 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: that another person that literally was one of one. 352 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: And you're just like so. 353 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: Honored and faithful that that I worked with her and 354 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: that I got to share space with her and stories 355 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: and really see like she was. 356 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: A diva, you know, she was at her own way. 357 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: But like certain people I feel can get away with 358 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: being das because they're that dope. Yeah you're like, you 359 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: know what, look out yet get out gaa. 360 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: And and to know that she spreakled that in you 361 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: and that yeah, you might've been behind the scenes most 362 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: of the time, but yeah, you're not anymore. 363 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: And honestly, sometimes I think about it. 364 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder if Chekis would be who she 365 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: was if her mom was still here, you know, like 366 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: she protected you a lot. 367 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: From the business she did, and it's just like, you know. 368 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: How would that be, Like do you ever sit there 369 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: and think about, like, yeah, when I be who I 370 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: am with my mom was not here, Like would she 371 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: support my career because we don't, you don't know, you 372 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna keep it real, I don't think 373 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: so I feel like it's all God's divine plan it is. 374 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: You know, do I wish my mother was here? Absolutely, 375 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: I wish she was here to see everything that I'm doing. 376 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: But also I do feel that my mom protected me 377 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: so much that even if I wanted to sing or whatever, 378 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: because she's like. 379 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll support you if you want to sing, but 380 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: that's not the career I want for you. If you 381 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: want to maybe be an actress, but a singer. This 382 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: shit is hard. This ship is very hard for. 383 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: Women, and I don't want you to go through that, 384 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: you know. And I think she would have just been like, 385 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think about it, and I think 386 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: about it too, you know what I mean. I don't know, 387 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: what do you think? 388 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. 389 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if she would have supported your seeing career. 390 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you would have been like, okay, 391 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: like am I cool? My daughter weigh in line. Grammy's like, 392 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: is she gonna, like, am I gonna support that dream? 393 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: Or is she gonna, you know, way become my competition? 394 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: You know? 395 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: You just yeah, because the thing is, and this goes 396 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: for a lot of women that their mom had them 397 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: at a young age. My mom and my sister, we 398 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: talk about this all the time of the podcast. My 399 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: mom had my sister at seventeen, your mom had you 400 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: at fifteen. Yes, So that relationship. 401 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: When a mom has their first born. 402 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: At such a young age, it's rocky. And it's not 403 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: just it's not just Jenny and Cheez y'all, it's my 404 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: sister and my mom. It's a lot of women that 405 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: may be watching this podcast that are like, uh, yeah, 406 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: that's me, and you know, I pray that. 407 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,359 Speaker 1: Y'all healed that relationship. 408 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that wasn't the case in with you and your 409 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: mom because she got you were you know, but my sister, 410 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: my mom had definitely healed and talked it out. 411 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: But that age gap, it's like you're you're growing up 412 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: with your mom. You're growing up. That's tough, my mom. 413 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: What I always say, it didn't come with the manual, 414 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: like I don't know what to do with you. And 415 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: we were so close, we were sisters, we were everything 416 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: to one another. So it's like for a long time, 417 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I did find myself career resentment towards my mom. 418 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: But when you know she left, you know, of course, 419 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: because of how everything is left, I was like I want. 420 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like, what am I? Yeah? 421 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: And thank goodness, you know, I look back and I'm like, damn, 422 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: we've made it this far and just I mean, and 423 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about success. I'm talking about just emotionally, 424 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: how we were able to get here, you know, all 425 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: of my siblings and I and I don't know. 426 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean, but the way the. 427 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: Way the media reigned like rained down on you, the 428 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: hatred and the theist I mean, if you are not 429 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: raised by a strong woman like your mom and God 430 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: by your side, and that could have destroyed anybody as 431 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: the way people came down on you. And I want 432 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: to deceible comments on social media. I'm not sometimes I'm 433 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: on your social media and looking at your comments and 434 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 2: not I'm like that big sister that wants to come 435 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: to the rescue hear you, and like sometimes hop or not. 436 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes maybe in my head I typed some people that is. 437 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: Illading because that all goes, you know, because that all get. 438 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: People coming after me, which is okay, y'all can come 439 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: after me. I block everybody anyways, yeah bye. 440 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: But the way people were. 441 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: Come at for you, I'm just like, Wow, if y'all 442 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: only knew how boyle of the daughter you were to 443 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: your mom and. 444 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't know because their own conclusions. 445 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: There was this real were going around that I slept 446 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: with my stepdad with my golf's husband, which is absolutely 447 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: not true, and it just it was crazy, you guys, 448 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: Thank goodness, that is freaking in twenty twelve. 449 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we left it there. But at the end of 450 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: the day, it's a part of. 451 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: My guess, my story, Yes, you know it is. Whether 452 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: I want to admit it, whether it sounds cute or not. 453 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the truth is, it's part of my story. 454 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: And how you know, I had to just the adversity 455 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: and all the freaking hate. I really thought, I swear 456 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: to you, Roxy, I thought that I was gonna go 457 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: to the just the grocery store, and so I was 458 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: just gonna come and stepp, I swear to you. 459 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: There were some I was like, you were that feutiful. 460 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna come and steppy because these people are 461 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: probably believing what is being said. That's why I went 462 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: out of my way. I did interviews, I wrote books. 463 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not going to allow the beautiful 464 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: relationship that my mom and I had to be. 465 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: Destroyed in that way with such a horrible life, you 466 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 467 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I'm perfect at this, no, no, 468 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: but that's one thing I never, oh never got done. 469 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: I was, first of all, I too scared of my mother, 470 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 471 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: And not only yeah, like I respect women, I really 472 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: like there's I was so happy for my mom, Like 473 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: I just don't now I'm starting to see certain things 474 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: and maybe one day I'll talk about that. I'm like, Okay, 475 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: this person was definitely behind it. 476 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: You know. 477 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: And it's like they you know, like that would definitely 478 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: be me in my head, Like who mats that nasty 479 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: seed in like mom's head? 480 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 481 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: And sometimes it's people that you expect that would stir 482 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: the pot and you're just like expect what wow that 483 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: you think? 484 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Love you? 485 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: It's are supposed to keep the family together, and in reality, 486 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: they're planting little seeds just so that they can have 487 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: the position you had. A lot of people were jealous 488 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: of what my mom and I had. It was my 489 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: mom and I like this for everything. Well you remember 490 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: that that that cover you guys? It was it a 491 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: cover for it was like. 492 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: Your mom and you like bosses and yes, oh my god, 493 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: I have that I have my glam room. 494 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: But that was one of the first things that was 495 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, and people wanted that position in person, 496 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: wanted that position that MM and I had. 497 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know what, at the end of 498 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: the day, I know that God is gonna, little by 499 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: little put everything in its place, and I'm not worried 500 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: about it. And yeah, her chooses to believe that. 501 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm at a point where before I was like, 502 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: I want to show you guys, I'm not this person. 503 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, I was cool, this sick. Sorry, I know 504 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: who I am. 505 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: Think what you want to think, Like, I know who 506 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: I am, and God would have brought me, brought me 507 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: this far. And my mom because I know she's you know, 508 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: my mom's moving huzzles and doing her thing up there if. 509 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: If that was true, you know what I mean? 510 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: I love I love seeing how in control of your 511 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: life you aren't out and how certain these are like 512 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: the private. 513 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not out there explaining yourself. You're allowing people. 514 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: Like you see it, you sense it, you feel it 515 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: more importantly, And I love that because you're not out 516 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: there explaining yourself to everybody. It's and you know what, you. 517 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: You radiate the happiness. I love that you're happy in 518 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: your relationship. Like you keep that private, you know, like 519 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: one day you just need to pop up, Pop up Mary. 520 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: Nobody needs to know your ceremony that only the real 521 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: ones pull up. Mind you, I do feel there are 522 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: certain things that I share because I feel like that's 523 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: part of my mission and the world is through the 524 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: things that I've been through. I want to help people 525 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: grow and stuff like that. But there are certain things 526 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: that now I'm like, I want to keep to myself. 527 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a human being too. I don't necessarily have 528 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: to share everything with everyone. And I felt like I 529 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: was obligated, like and it was. It was an obligation 530 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: because I'm an artists, because I'm on TV, because I 531 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: have a podcast, I have to share everything. There's certain 532 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: things that I'm like, no, I'm gonna keep this to 533 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: myself and it's later on I want to talk about it. Okay, 534 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone is entitled to their 535 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: privacy and so nice. 536 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: Even if I am, you know, a public figure, which 537 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: there are ladies. 538 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: I swear to you and I don't know if this 539 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: happened to you, but they'll come up to me and 540 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: you know I'm eating. 541 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of me. Literally. No. 542 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: First of all, that is so rude whenever you see 543 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: a celebrity eating it, especially if it see baccol to 544 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: serve me and ask me for picture and they get 545 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: so excited that they will. And see I've never said no. 546 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't one time I. 547 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: Said no to a picture and I said eating, I'm 548 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: gonna say no. Yeah, I know because I see all 549 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: the road. That's my moment. My mom was like, come on, 550 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: and but they'll tell me straight up and I'm just 551 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: saying I ste like who does that? Yeah? 552 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 553 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: And before I was like, okay, well now I'm like okay, 554 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: well see woman deta. You know. Now I'll say it. 555 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm polite about it. 556 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: But but you know what now like no, no, I'm 557 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: also I'm a human being too, And so there's something 558 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: beautiful about being mysterious. 559 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: There's something beautiful about it. There's where like like, not 560 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: everybody knows everything. That's what I look about the media. Actually, 561 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: my partner he's not all like that social media. 562 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: He posts once and I tell him, baby, you gotta 563 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: post more for your like photography, and he's always busy. 564 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: But I'm like, you'd be a lot busy here. He's like, 565 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm good with as busy as I am. I was like, well, 566 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: post on your work all people to see how talented 567 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: you are. But he's chill, and I love. 568 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: Tell us selfies. I can't. Oh, I can't. Man that 569 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: post selfies that they park at their lips. Listen. 570 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: I don't know about that, girl, I don't know business 571 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: man that's about his business that they posting on social media. 572 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: I love a man that isn't half social. Me too, 573 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: because I'm sure that your fans and news channels they 574 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: all but look at his pain and oh yeah, and 575 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: they'll send him little things there. People are mean. People 576 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: are mean. 577 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: They'll send him like oh, she used to call her 578 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: exdus or shes or and before I used to bother him. 579 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: Now and he's like, oh he knows, he knows. Yeah, yeah, 580 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: that's what he's like. You know, But he's chill, he's true. 581 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah like that. I love that. And 582 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: being a mama, girl, I love being a mom. 583 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Let me say, my daughter is a manifestation of my dreams. 584 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: I prayed about her. I visualized, girl, Remember what we 585 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: used to do vision board. 586 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, oh, he's a vision board man. 587 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: Remember we were absolutely at the. 588 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: House making vision boards and like me, I think we 589 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: did an entire episode on vision. 590 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: You wanted to do conferences. Yeah. So when I tell 591 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: you that the way my daughter looks, I brought my daughter, y'all, 592 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: so she felt so good. I swear to you it's 593 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: that I'm not even that, it's that PIFC. Literally, she's 594 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: so beautiful. Her head is like perfectly wound round, she's 595 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: smells delicious. 596 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: Her little hand she's talking, she's just like once, she's 597 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: just so cute, not like saying words, but she's like. 598 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: She's babbled, she's babbling. 599 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I'm so happy that I had a 600 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: baby for you because now whenever you wanted to say 601 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: be your coach and like, hell, you know what. My 602 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: mom was actually telling me that that she had a 603 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: dream the other day that I should help women that 604 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: feel helpless because this is the the doctors. Okay, a 605 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: lot of women at pcos and suffer from like infertility, 606 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: and it's it's not as easy as it was getting pregnant, 607 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: they d as it was back in the absolutely women 608 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: back then balas. 609 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: Right, women these days they struggle. Yeah, so they're doing 610 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: like I, yes, and and a surrogate a different things. 611 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: Right, So my mom goes, I feel that you should 612 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: give because I prepared my body chees to get pregnant 613 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: two years prior to getting pregnant. I legit prepared my body. 614 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: It's like laying the foundation to like a house. I 615 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: knew there were certain things that I had to do. 616 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: I had to I had cysts on my ovaries, got 617 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: rid of those naturally with herbs, and then I started 618 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: seeing up for herbologists. 619 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: I started getting Yony scenes. 620 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: Remember I was slunging you the other day a Yoni scenes. 621 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: If you don't know bout Yoni scenes, listen, you need 622 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: to start getting Yoni and steam all in the vagina. Okay, 623 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: goshold me about this. 624 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: I was I need girl and and like it regulates 625 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: your p H and if immediately eats you up, now 626 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna. 627 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Eat you up even Okay, it's not going to be 628 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: able to rest chapters. 629 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so like sex hotng with that. This is how 630 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: we were all created. 631 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, but so yeah, then I started taking a 632 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: fertility tea. I'm all about like I met a She 633 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: pot my uterus back in a place. So when I 634 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: tell you, my daughter is a manifestation in my dreams, 635 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: she is. 636 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: I prayed for her. The way she looks now is 637 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is how I knew she was gonna 638 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: look like this. It's crazy. I believe in that she's beautiful. 639 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: And so I will say sometimes I say I wish 640 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: I would I had kids younger, right like in my twenties, 641 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: in my early thirties. 642 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: But I'm thankful that I had her when I had 643 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: her because I'm patient. 644 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: Yes, like I think a lot of times when young 645 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: moms have kids at a young age, to the suspend, 646 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, And I'm. 647 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Like, I'm not in your rush to I try. I've 648 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: traveled a lot and I'm gonna still travel. Yeah, we're 649 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: going to assall lot next month with her. Nice. I 650 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: think I had a daughter to leave her behind. Yeah, 651 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: everyone's like that, Yeah, because I don't can see I 652 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a daughter to leave her with. The mandis yeah, 653 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: I know, God, Yeah, you're in a different place. 654 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: You're in a different place, you're more patient, you know 655 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: the knowledge that I'm going to be You would have 656 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: printed this little girl, and I'm like, I get to 657 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: be your coach. 658 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: I get to be your biggest in this little life. 659 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you didn't, you didn't. But she had a boy. 660 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, nope, how can I teach a boy how 661 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: to be amazing? 662 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 663 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: I see, No, you're a total And when I have 664 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: another one, I want another's gonna be Oh my god. 665 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: I can already see you're you're a great mom. I 666 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: can already see. Like it's just I don't know. 667 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: I see you on social media, like everything you speak 668 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: and again, you don't just say ship like you you're 669 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: about it, about You're about it and in every way. 670 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 2: So I needs to imagine. I said, I'm so honored 671 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: that she picked me and that I and that I 672 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: picked her. But they say children pick their parents, yes, 673 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: you know, Like so that's like that's just like your stuff. 674 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: And I'm like, my guys movies, I will. I know 675 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: they're all on milk ste that's that's admirable. 676 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: And breastfeed her, so like its breastfeeding just it checks you. 677 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: You can't dream too much. 678 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: Alcohol, you shouldn't be you know, alcohol. She don't really 679 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: smoke cannabis. 680 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: Everybody else. I'm a cannabis enthusiast. You know that I 681 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: was gonna asked the other day, I can't because that 682 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: bread speed. But you know the prymney, you know what 683 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean? Like our parents were hippies and they were 684 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: doing it too. It This is my thing I all 685 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: get into. 686 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: The whole endo cannabinoids is that you don't want me 687 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: to get started with that, But everybody has an endoc 688 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: cannabinoids in their body, and in reality, it. 689 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: Helps your immune system when you consume the flower the 690 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: right way, the right way like c med. The cantabinoids 691 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: are actually super beneficial for the body. But people don't. 692 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: They only want to see the cannabis that get too high. Right, 693 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: And there's different and it's not just that it's we 694 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: need a. 695 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Whole episode on that, because a lot, especially. 696 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: In our community's educated, especially the older generation, that cannabis 697 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: is is way better than drinking a Thailand. 698 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, guys. 699 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: I always say, oh my god, people goes down, Oh 700 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: my god that I spoke with right now, I'm gonna 701 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: clean that a very deep cleansed. But when they found 702 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: out that I smoked cannabis, it was just like, oh 703 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: my god, how could you go like, wait a second, No, 704 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: I have more babies, Yes you do. 705 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: I want one more. I just want you know what, 706 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: I can't imagine my life. I can't imagine my life 707 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: without my siblings. Yeah, can you know? So I'm like 708 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: I because and when you put it that way, yeah, no, 709 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of women these days. 710 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Are like one and done, and I'm like, I get 711 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: it because you know it, it ain't easy. It's definitely 712 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: worth it. But I cannot imagine my life without my 713 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: sister and my brother because we're tight, you know what 714 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean. They're so fateful that we're tight. And I 715 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: love that your mom instilled that in you too. Is 716 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: that No, Like your siblings are forever people and you 717 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I love that you're close 718 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: to your siblings. 719 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: So when I see my closest or my siblings, I'm like, yeah. 720 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: I want to get on it. 721 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: I know, I know, girl it okay? Would you you 722 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: don't mind if it's a boy or girl. At this point, 723 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: it's like whatever, I mean, I feel like God's gonna 724 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: give me what's meant for me. But I definitely want another. 725 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: Little Oh my God, yes, because like we're so really yeah, 726 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: like sure, dressing them up. 727 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: And I mean I could teach a woman how to 728 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: be great? Can I teach you? 729 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: No? 730 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know that? Yeah? 731 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: See and see I have always in my life watered 732 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: a boy, and I think I always like, I want 733 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: to be I want to have a boy. 734 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: But I've learned through therapy and through healing that the 735 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: reason I waited so long to have kids was because, 736 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: of course I'm taking care of my siblings, but also 737 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: it is that I have been a mockery. Yeah, I've been. 738 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: I went out all of it, especially with Johnny and Jenica. 739 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are your freaking mother a parent conferences. 740 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I did it all. I did the homework. I it 741 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: was I did it all. 742 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: I mean, so john was more mine, I feel than 743 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: even my mom did. Sometimes you know, I should, It's understandable. 744 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: But also I think I waited and I didn't want 745 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: to grow because I was afraid of my mom and 746 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: I had such a beautiful relationship, but it was it 747 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: was hard, you know that I was like, oh what, 748 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 2: I don't what if I have a girl, and then 749 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: we repeat things that I don't know. I thought so 750 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: many negative things and in reality, I'm like, wait a second, 751 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: but if I do have a little girl, and I 752 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: can mend and help that relationship. But hew that relationship 753 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: because times didn't allow. 754 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: It, you know. So now I'm like, God, whatever you 755 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: want me to have, I'm gonna accept it. Yes. 756 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could see you having a little girl 757 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: and doing things completely different with your little girl. 758 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: Because you know better. I'm older. You know what boundaries are. 759 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: Now, I'm so patty that you know how to set 760 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: boundaries and based with certain people. Yeah, but boundaries are 761 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: superper important and you understand that. So like, when you 762 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: know how to do it another way, you're gonna do 763 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: it a different way so that we you know, Because 764 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: believe it or not, girl, there's a lot of broken 765 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: people raising broken humans. They're emotionally broken. And I love 766 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: that about you that you encourage therapy. Every human watching 767 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: this needs to go to thera down. I have a 768 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: love the therapist since I was nineteen. My parents got 769 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: divorced fifteen and it affected me. So when when you 770 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: talk about therapy, when anybody talks about therapy. 771 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that local? 772 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: At this point you need to address all the issues 773 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: and listen, we all got issues, yeah, all of us, 774 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: all of us. It doesn't have to be Oh I was, 775 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: you know, because I was sexually abused, like it could 776 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 2: be anything and everything, and a lot of people, especially 777 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: man in our culture, where people think, well, see what 778 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, if I go to counseling, it's because something's 779 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 2: wrong with me, and no, it's that we all need 780 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: to bounce ideas, let our feelings out with someone that's 781 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: not gonna that we're gonna feel good to criticize it 782 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: or we're shy. 783 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: It's someone that's just completely separated from your family. Yeah. 784 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you encourage your followers of therapy 785 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: because I do. Do do it, but your pride to 786 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: the side and deal with it because otherwise that haunts 787 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: you for the rest of your life and your neighbor. 788 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: You're never able to have all of your relationships a. 789 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: Quality, that relationship with your siblings, with your parents because 790 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: you're just holy hot to old shit. 791 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's like they get to see mm hm, 792 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: oh my god exactly. I always tell you guys that you. 793 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: Guys have to release we have to release the baggage 794 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: and not there's there's no way that we're gonna be 795 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: able to be our best selves if we're carrying old 796 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: ship literally old shit. 797 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Well, Ron, thank you so much. She thinks it's so 798 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: it's so intimate in here. I love it. You think 799 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: have done a good job. 800 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: I wanted something very warm, and I wanted something like 801 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: apple Hillo. That's gonna give you, like you know, nice point, 802 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna give you a little hugs. So I'm glad 803 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: to do that here. I'm grateful that you're here. 804 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: And I gotta go on your podcast. So tell us 805 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: about your podcast. So where can people find you? Yeah? 806 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: So our podcast mine and my sisters called straight Up Sisters. 807 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: The podcast, it's my older sister and me and so 808 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: the older sister and baby is the. 809 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Dynamic is real. 810 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Susie is six years older than me, and she thinks 811 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: she's always right right because she's got mer life experiences. 812 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: We have a lot of opposing views on different things, 813 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: but it's all love at the end of the day. 814 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Like I'm not like I hate you. I mean we 815 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: we get into disagreements on the podcast. I'm like, no, 816 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: like that. What makes a strong relationship? Yeah, and so 817 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: that's what it is. 818 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: It's the older sister and a baby sister having a 819 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: conversation on a set every day and we talk our shit. 820 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: We talk our shit but a lot of two and 821 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: Susie is right, you know what I mean. I'm like, 822 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: damn yeah, she's like seventy thirty percent of the time. 823 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: Right. 824 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: Do you ever tell your siblings that no, I don't, 825 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: but I should. Shit be good. I told you so. Yeah, 826 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: because a lot, you know, you guys have more life experience. 827 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: You get the baby. Yeah yeah, like you good guy, Jennica, 828 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: because she's the baby, right. So it's it's fun. 829 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: We have such a good time and we're on all 830 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: digital platforms straight up. Sisters of the podcast, Susie, I 831 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: love you. I missed you girl. 832 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: I know she loves you too. She was so happy 833 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: that I was coming to day. She's like, tell her 834 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: she's just gonna be on the podcast and she's like, 835 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: you know what, I know, I'm gonna. 836 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there with her because she's the oldest, 837 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna ask herself that 838 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: maybe people are free to ask her. 839 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I'm sure she'll have to make sure. 840 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: I will. Yeah will, So Susie, bring it on, baby 841 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: girl and her mom two said to my mom that 842 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: she made. She gave me my first call on. Yeah, 843 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: most she did. Did your mom gave me my first 844 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: colonate way back in the day? Girl? Really is okay? 845 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: Can you tell that people like kalonics are not painful? 846 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: Colonies are not people. They're a little uncomfortably it could 847 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: be a little comfortable, but they're not painful. They're that 848 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: painful and they're great for you. 849 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: So it was because of her mom that I started 850 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: like getting into it. So thanks, you know, shout out 851 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: to your mom. Yeah, do you want to share your socials? 852 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? My social is at roxyes World. 853 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: So the cool thing about Roxy's World and the way 854 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: I spell my name is it's our a Q capital C. Yes, 855 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: so nobody else has that name on. 856 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: I love that. One of a kind, one of one. Yeah. 857 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: So it's the rocky r a Q capital seed roxyes 858 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: World up everything and every weege Snapchat. 859 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: You got sapchat please? Yeah? I love Snapchat. Yeah, I 860 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: love it. You're really good at it. You're really good. 861 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I sit there and I watch it. 862 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm like I buy the stuff that she posts to 863 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: I say stree shots and I'm like, oh, girl, I 864 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: gotta remember her by this, so yeah, I follow her. 865 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: So bros As that's a greed backbone. Now, thank you, 866 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: thank god. It's like you had no the choice. I 867 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: had no the choice. 868 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: I had to put on my big girl panties. I 869 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: was like, all right, cool, my mama, here, I gotta 870 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: I gotta be the one to protect my siblings. 871 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: And I so yeah, you do good? 872 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: You do? 873 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: You so good at that brette. That's what older sisters do. 874 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: Y'all got our bats forever. Thank you so much, Thank you, 875 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: Roxy Lovett. I know, thank you. Never again, don't never 876 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: let go my gardes. I know. Thank you guys so much. 877 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: Guy. 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