WEBVTT - Sleepy Time Tech

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works and a love about things tech. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode is a request from none other than my producer TORII,

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<v Speaker 1>who said I should do an episode related to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>because that's one of her favorite activities. So today we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to look at the intersection of sleep and technology.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, let's talk about the science of sleep for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, because the tech that is in that sleep

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<v Speaker 1>industry is all supposed to tap into the science of

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in some way or another. So let's get an

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of that first. Now, the average human spends between

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<v Speaker 1>one four to one third of their life asleep. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're TORII, adds closer to fifty fifty. So at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of your life, you could divide your age by

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<v Speaker 1>three and that's how many years you spent snoozing. More

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<v Speaker 1>or less you lay about No, but really, sleep is

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<v Speaker 1>is really important. Until the mid twenty century, the general

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<v Speaker 1>thinking around sleep was that it was just a time

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<v Speaker 1>of rest when your body and your brain kind of

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<v Speaker 1>went into hibernation mode and laid dormant, but in actuality,

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<v Speaker 1>your brain is pretty active when you're sleeping. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be so active that it can look almost

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<v Speaker 1>identical to an awake brain. It's engaged in activities that

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<v Speaker 1>are necessary to life, and according to Dr Mark Wu,

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<v Speaker 1>a neurologist at Johns Hopkins, those activities are also very

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<v Speaker 1>closely connected to quality of life, so not just making

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<v Speaker 1>life go on, but making the life you have worth living.

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep consists of multiple stages in a cycle that repeats

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<v Speaker 1>several times per night. The first half for first section

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<v Speaker 1>of that cycle would fall into the category of non

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<v Speaker 1>R E M sleep or non RIM sleep. That itself

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<v Speaker 1>has four stages. So in the first stage, the body

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<v Speaker 1>is between being awake and asleep. This is the stage

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<v Speaker 1>you are in when you're first going to sleep. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also the stage you end up in when you're waking up,

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<v Speaker 1>typically unless you've been awakened out of the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep by something else. In the second stage, you

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<v Speaker 1>are in a light sleep, and at that stage your

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<v Speaker 1>heart rate and your breathing regulate and your body temperature

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<v Speaker 1>begins to drop. The third and fourth stages are deeper sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and we now think it's these stages where the brain

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<v Speaker 1>experiences the restorative benefit of sleep. This is important for

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<v Speaker 1>the formation of memories, it's important for learning. It helps

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<v Speaker 1>you incorporate the stuff that you've experienced into long term memories,

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<v Speaker 1>and it prepares your brain for the next day so

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<v Speaker 1>that when you encounter new information, you can incorporate that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Next comes R. E. M. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>not mean the band from Athens, Georgia, although they are great.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're a bunch of shiny, happy people. But

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<v Speaker 1>instead I'm talking about rapid eye movement. Now, in that

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<v Speaker 1>stage of sleep, the eyes are moving quickly behind closed lids.

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<v Speaker 1>Brain activity is similar to what you would experience when

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<v Speaker 1>you're awake. This is when you can have intense, emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>charged dreams. Some sleep experts have observed brain activity and

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<v Speaker 1>rem sleep that have exceeded the brain activity of an

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<v Speaker 1>awake person. So it's also in this stage when you

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<v Speaker 1>could experience a phenomenon called sleep paralysis. Now we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know a whole lot about this experience other than it

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<v Speaker 1>can be absolutely unnerving. I've actually experienced this in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>although not recently, a lot of people have had bouts

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep paralysis, and it can really scare you when

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<v Speaker 1>it happens. So, Uh, here's typically what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>an episode of sleep paralysis. Your brain is aware of

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<v Speaker 1>your surroundings, but your body does not respond to your

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<v Speaker 1>desire to move, So you feel like you're awake, like

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<v Speaker 1>a d percent awake, except that you cannot move at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is very unnerving to say the least. It

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<v Speaker 1>also can be accompanied by hallucinations of both a visual

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<v Speaker 1>and an auditory nature. And in fact, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folklore and a lot of urban legends that are

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<v Speaker 1>based around this phenomena as people have experienced this and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make sense of it in some way. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The mythology behind the succubus is often linked to sleep paralysis.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another one called night hag syndrome, where people have

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<v Speaker 1>said they've imagined a figure of a of a menacing

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<v Speaker 1>woman sometimes perched on their chest, preventing them from being

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<v Speaker 1>able to move. There are others who have interpreted this

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<v Speaker 1>as being visited by aliens, like there were these mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>alien like figures gathered around their bed and they were

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<v Speaker 1>unable to move. They all seem real and it is

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely scary to not be able to move. But from

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<v Speaker 1>what we can tell, this is all based on an

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<v Speaker 1>actual natural phenomenon that happens sometimes when you are aware

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<v Speaker 1>during an R E M stage of sleep, but you

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<v Speaker 1>are not unable to move. There's no supernatural cause for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that just occasionally happens for some people that

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<v Speaker 1>happens more frequently than others. Sometimes it happens during times

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<v Speaker 1>of great stress and anxiety, and other times you might

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<v Speaker 1>not have these problems at all. But why would you

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<v Speaker 1>be paralyzed in the first place, Why would you be

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<v Speaker 1>unable to move? Well? When you go into R E

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<v Speaker 1>M sleep, your body essentially has the sort of shut

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<v Speaker 1>off switch for uh, your your conscious movement. It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>so that we don't hurt ourselves by thrashing around violently

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<v Speaker 1>in response to those vivid, emotionally charged dreams that I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that we experienced during R E M sleep. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's our body's way of protecting itself during that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the sleep cycle. Without it, we would be falling

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<v Speaker 1>on a bed or punching the person next to us

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It's not. You know, it's not meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be harmful, but it is not a great experience if

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<v Speaker 1>we happen to be aware of our surroundings, it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, taking effect only when we are

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<v Speaker 1>unconscious and we're not aware of things. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>are aware of everything but you're unable to move, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty creepy. By the way, I've heard. One way of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to deal with this is concentrate on making very

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<v Speaker 1>small movements with a part of your body, like your toes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that this can gradually get you out of the

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<v Speaker 1>the stage of sleep so that you are fully awake

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have that experience anymore. If nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>you can take your focus off of the hallucinations you

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<v Speaker 1>might otherwise be experiencing. So on a typical night, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>actually cycle through those various stages up to four or

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<v Speaker 1>five times. But also with each cycle, you spend a

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<v Speaker 1>little less time in stages three and four of the

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<v Speaker 1>non r EM sleep, and you spend more time in

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<v Speaker 1>REM sleep. Now, previously scientists thought that REM sleep was

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<v Speaker 1>the stage that was really important, that was restorative, that

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<v Speaker 1>would give you that lovely feeling of being rested when

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up. These days, scholarship suggests that's really those

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<v Speaker 1>third and fourth stages of non rem sleep that are

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<v Speaker 1>the most important. So kind of like how food science

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<v Speaker 1>keeps changing, sleep science keeps changing too, where we think

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<v Speaker 1>we know what's going on, and then as we learn

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<v Speaker 1>more we realize, well, that might not actually be true.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this other thing is true. There are two main

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<v Speaker 1>drivers for sleep biological drivers. The first is what we

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<v Speaker 1>call circadian rhythms. These are controlled by what amounts to

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<v Speaker 1>a biological clock in the brain. The clock does not

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<v Speaker 1>just keep time. I mean it does keep time. You

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<v Speaker 1>can separate people from external stimuli and they will fall

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<v Speaker 1>into a natural circadian rhythm. Typically it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>longer than twenty four hours that rhythm, so you will

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<v Speaker 1>gradually get off the day night cycle that everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is on if you are again sequestered from everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>But it reacts to external stimuli like light cueues. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it gets darker, the brain starts to trigger the

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<v Speaker 1>production of a hormone called melatonin, and when the brain

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<v Speaker 1>senses light, it's begins to to pull back on melatonin production.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is one of the reasons you hear people

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<v Speaker 1>say you should limit the light sources that are in

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<v Speaker 1>your sleeping area so that you can help trigger this

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<v Speaker 1>production of melatonin. It's one of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 1>use a sleep mass actually. Now, as for what melatonin

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<v Speaker 1>actually does for humans, well, it's not completely understood, but

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<v Speaker 1>it might help synchronize circadian rhythms in different parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the body. As this hormone travels throughout the body, it's

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<v Speaker 1>produced by the brain, but then it travels to all

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<v Speaker 1>of our organs and it interacts with tissues that have

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<v Speaker 1>melatonin receptors. Melotonin receptors are special proteins that some tissues have.

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<v Speaker 1>Melatonin probably contributes to initiating and maintaining sleep, and also

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<v Speaker 1>helping our bodies maintain the rhythms necessary for typical activities

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<v Speaker 1>during the day and night cycles. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure everything is ready for action in the daytime

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<v Speaker 1>and ready for rest at night. And it's not essential

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<v Speaker 1>for human sleep, but we tend to sleep better during

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<v Speaker 1>the times that melatonin is being chugged out by our brains.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can sleep during the day and be awake

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<v Speaker 1>at night, it's just not as easy to do. The

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<v Speaker 1>second thing to regulate sleep is called the sleep drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Our bodies require sleep, Our bodies crave sleep throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Our desire for sleep increases, and when it reaches a

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<v Speaker 1>certain level, we gots to sleep or we start suffering

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty nasty drawbacks. Sleep and hunger are in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways similar to one another because our body also increases

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<v Speaker 1>in hunger and we want to eat. However, our body

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<v Speaker 1>goes an extra step when it comes to sleep, because

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how hungry you are, your body doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>you eat. You make yourself eat, but your body doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>force you to eat. However, if you're super sleepy, your

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<v Speaker 1>body can totally make you go to sleep without you

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<v Speaker 1>choosing for that to happen. Even if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to sleep at that moment, maybe you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something important like driving a car. If you're tired enough,

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<v Speaker 1>your body might force you to go through what are

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<v Speaker 1>called micro sleep sessions. During those moments, you'll sleep for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of seconds at a time, even with your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes open, so you kind of zone out for those

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<v Speaker 1>couple of seconds, which can again be really dangerous depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what you're doing. Also, you might want to take naps.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to take naps, that's fine, just try

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<v Speaker 1>to limit your naps to less than half an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if it's later in the day because otherwise that

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<v Speaker 1>can throw off your sleep drive and make it harder

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<v Speaker 1>for you to get to sleep at night. So typically

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<v Speaker 1>you want to keep your naps to twenty to thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially later in the day. Sleep helps our brains deal

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<v Speaker 1>with input. It promotes what is called brain plasticity. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're low on sleep, you're gonna have problems learning stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>remembering things. You're gonna have that foggy feeling. Sleep also

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<v Speaker 1>is important for other systems not just our brains, like

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<v Speaker 1>our immune systems and our metabolism, So you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get good, regular sleep for good health. In general, the

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<v Speaker 1>sleep requirements are not set in stone for everyone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly like you can't just say everybody needs seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours or eight hours of sleep. It

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<v Speaker 1>varies from person to person at least a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally speaking, healthy adults need between seven and nine

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<v Speaker 1>hours of sleep per night if they want to be

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<v Speaker 1>at their best. Kids and teenagers need more sleep than

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<v Speaker 1>adults do, and the older we get in general, the

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<v Speaker 1>less sleep we tend to need. But even senior citizens

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<v Speaker 1>would really only be at their best if they got

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<v Speaker 1>at least seven hours of sleep per night. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>got an activity that takes up a third of our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's important to engage in this activity in order

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<v Speaker 1>for us to maintain a healthy lifestyle. We need sleep

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to function in general. So it should

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<v Speaker 1>come as no surprise that there are tons of products

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<v Speaker 1>out there that target sleep, because it's a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody needs it. So if you can make a product

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to help people do that activity or do

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<v Speaker 1>that activity more efficiently, then you stand to make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money because everybody's got to do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your product actually helps people. That would be the

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<v Speaker 1>ideal situation, of course, that the thing you're selling actually

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<v Speaker 1>does have a positive effect. But some of you may

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<v Speaker 1>already be way ahead of me here. If there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot we do not know or understand about sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably challenging to create products that will work for

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<v Speaker 1>a wide variety of people in a way that legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>helps you sleep. That is in fact the case, or

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be. That's not to say every sleep product

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<v Speaker 1>out there is bunk, but it's good to turn on

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<v Speaker 1>those critical thinking skills when we start looking at sleep technology.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain more in a second, but First, let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break to thank our sponsor, Dafne la Prince Ringett.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I'm mispronouncing your name, and I do apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dafne wrote a great piece and Wired recently in

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<v Speaker 1>September two. It's titled sleep Tech is Booming, but It's

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<v Speaker 1>getting weirder and dodgier, and I recommend you check out

0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that article and it Daphne quotes Lloyd Price, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a co founder of a company called Zesti. Price said,

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<v Speaker 1>the industry as a whole is now in what we

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<v Speaker 1>call the plateau of productivity within the sleep tech hype cycle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the hype cycle is a concept from research firm Gardner,

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<v Speaker 1>and it describes the life cycle of a technology, not

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<v Speaker 1>just sleep tech, but every technology as it goes from

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<v Speaker 1>the initial concept all the way up to widespread mainstream adoption,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming it makes it that far. The typical chart for

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<v Speaker 1>the hype cycle looks like a really big hill on

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<v Speaker 1>a roller coaster ride that then goes into a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dip and then a gradual climb afterward. And it involves

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<v Speaker 1>things like your expectation and your adoption levels. So it

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<v Speaker 1>all starts the innovation trigger or the technological breakthrough that

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<v Speaker 1>gets things started. This would be the initial announcement of

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<v Speaker 1>something really cool and groundbreaking. At this stage, there may

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<v Speaker 1>not be anything that a consumer can get their hands on.

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<v Speaker 1>It may all be in the prototype or conceptual stage,

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<v Speaker 1>and people start hearing about and they get interested in it.

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<v Speaker 1>That leads into the peak of inflated expectations. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the high point on that roller coaster hill that I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about. It's typically a pretty sharp, steep hill,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where publicity gets people really really excited

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<v Speaker 1>for this technology. Everyone is at a fever pitch. They

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<v Speaker 1>think this technology has the potential to change everything. There

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<v Speaker 1>may not be an actual product out there, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's only a very limited number and they can only

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<v Speaker 1>be adopted by like bleeding edge technology fans who have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of in home that they can use to

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<v Speaker 1>buy this kind of stuff. But typically it doesn't it's

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<v Speaker 1>not widely available enough for for the average person to

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<v Speaker 1>get experience with it. Next, after the peak of inflated

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<v Speaker 1>expectations comes the trough of disillusionment. This is that dip

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about, a low point in the life cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens when people realize that the thing they got

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<v Speaker 1>the actual product they were able to buy doesn't meet

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<v Speaker 1>those high expectations they had. Now, high expectations can come

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple sources. They can come from pr folks who

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<v Speaker 1>are really promoting the heck out of a technology. So

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a misrepresentation of the tech, or it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a misinterpretation on the part of the consumer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily the fault of publicists, although they do

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<v Speaker 1>tend to really tout the the positives of technology. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>their job is to sell stuff. So I'm reminded of

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<v Speaker 1>virtual reality, both when it had its initial run in

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety nineties and the more recent attempts with stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like the Oculus and the Vive products. Those products are

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<v Speaker 1>still around, but I say that they failed to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>upon some of the unrealistic expectations that we had built

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<v Speaker 1>up around them, and as a result, they had to

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<v Speaker 1>go through this trough period, the trough of disillusionment. Next

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<v Speaker 1>would be the slope of enlightenment. That's when we start

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<v Speaker 1>to see implementations of this technology that actually makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>and they have real value. They may not remotely come

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<v Speaker 1>close to meeting the incredible expectations we had had previously,

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<v Speaker 1>but they show how the technology can be used in

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<v Speaker 1>a real practical value added way. Then we finally get

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<v Speaker 1>to the plateau of productivity. That's when we get into

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream adoption of that technology. It becomes a practical part

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<v Speaker 1>of other technologies. Sometimes sometimes it just becomes a feature

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<v Speaker 1>on an existing product as opposed to a standalone thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is where sleep technology is now. According to

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Price. Then again, he co founded a health company

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<v Speaker 1>that has an interest in sleep technology, so it probably

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<v Speaker 1>would be good news to such a company that we

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<v Speaker 1>have moved into this widespread mainstream adoption. It's hard to argue, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because sleep tech has found its way into lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different products. Many of the early examples of sleep tech,

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<v Speaker 1>many of the ones that are still around now, are

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<v Speaker 1>subsets of a trend called the quantified self. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the trend that spawned all sorts of stuff like activity trackers,

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<v Speaker 1>sleep trackers, technology that would give you data on a

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<v Speaker 1>day to day basis about your activities. It's all about, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>giving you data about your everyday life. The quantified self

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<v Speaker 1>started off as a movement back in two thousand seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was more or less founded by

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys named Gary Wolf and Kevin Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>both of whom worked for Wired magazine, who really championed

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<v Speaker 1>this concept. And it's all about using technology to track

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<v Speaker 1>our personal activities, are day to day behaviors, and then

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<v Speaker 1>give us data about that so that we can, prefer

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<v Speaker 1>ideally use it in some way that benefits us, right

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<v Speaker 1>that we can get a better understanding of who we

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<v Speaker 1>are and what we do, and maybe fine tune our

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<v Speaker 1>behavior so that we're living our best lives. The quantified

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<v Speaker 1>self can involve using technology to gather information all by itself,

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<v Speaker 1>such as a pedometer, like we just wear the pardometer

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<v Speaker 1>and it counts the steps and it might send that

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<v Speaker 1>data somewhere. Or it can also include technology that requires

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of additional human input, like a calorie tracking

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<v Speaker 1>app that would tell you how many calories you've consumed

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<v Speaker 1>versus burned in a day. But in order to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to actually tell the app what you ate,

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<v Speaker 1>so it can estimate the number of calories you've consumed,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it consults some other sensors like a pedometer

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<v Speaker 1>to estimate how many calories you have burned, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it can give you the full information afterward. Sleep trackers

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<v Speaker 1>fall into this category of the quantified self technology. These

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<v Speaker 1>are devices they're supposed to monitor your sleep patterns and

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<v Speaker 1>send that data to you in some useful way. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do sleep trackers work well, It kind of depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the technology. There are a few different approaches, but

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<v Speaker 1>the first level of sleep tracking depends heavily on accelerometers

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously measures acceleration. This method of assessing sleep predates

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<v Speaker 1>activity trackers and sleep trackers. It's called actography, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are specialized pieces of equipment called actographs, and they they

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<v Speaker 1>typically look like a watch. You would wear an actograph

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<v Speaker 1>on the risk of your non dominant hand in your

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<v Speaker 1>typical sleep study. The actograph can register and record movements.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's essentially the same thing as activity trackers and

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<v Speaker 1>fitbit trackers. But it's been around for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>and it was largely just the domain of medical establishment,

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<v Speaker 1>not not something you would go out and buy. The

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<v Speaker 1>data that would be gathered from these sleep sessions would

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<v Speaker 1>be analyzed to estimate sleep parameters and tell the sleep

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<v Speaker 1>specialists how well or poorly you slept in a given night.

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<v Speaker 1>And sleep specialists have been using act graphs for several

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<v Speaker 1>years and it's one of the preferred methods for measuring

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<v Speaker 1>sleep activity because it allows the user to sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>their own preferred space, like their own bed, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>having to try and sleep in a lab setting. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not the most accurate method of measuring sleep activity,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's less invasive than the more accurate approaches. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the National Center for Biotechnology Information, actography has been

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<v Speaker 1>well validated for the estimation of nighttime sleep parameters across

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<v Speaker 1>age groups, but the validity of the estimation of sleep

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<v Speaker 1>on set latency and daytime sleeping is limited. Clinical guidelines

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<v Speaker 1>and research suggests that risk actography is particularly useful in

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<v Speaker 1>the documentation of sleep patterns prior to a multiple sleep

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<v Speaker 1>latency test, in the evaluation of circadian rhythm sleep disorders

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<v Speaker 1>to evaluate treatment outcomes, and as an adjunct to home

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<v Speaker 1>monitoring of sleep disordered Breathing actography has also been well

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<v Speaker 1>studied in the evaluation of sleep in the context of

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<v Speaker 1>depression and dementia. Now, it is important to remember that

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<v Speaker 1>this is within the context of sleep specialists working with patients.

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<v Speaker 1>The trackers we tend to rely upon today may give

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<v Speaker 1>us information about our sleep activity, but it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>substitute for a medical professional if there's something wrong going on,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might be a way to alert us that

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<v Speaker 1>there's something we should have checked out. Also, the more

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<v Speaker 1>disrupted your sleep is, the more accurate actography can be

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<v Speaker 1>in telling you what is actually going on. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>another side to sleep trackers that is also problematic, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's anxiety some people feel when they're trying to beat

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<v Speaker 1>their high score. As it were. So you typically get

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep feedback data fed to you in some way

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<v Speaker 1>that's related to a grade, and people like getting good

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<v Speaker 1>grades and they hate getting bad grades, and they start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that they have mediocre grades and they think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get that score up. That competitive nature

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<v Speaker 1>starts to come through. But this actually can start to

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<v Speaker 1>create anxiety and stress. You're stressing out about getting a

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<v Speaker 1>better grade in sleep. There's actually a name for this.

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<v Speaker 1>It is orthosomnia. Now, literally that word would mean correct sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's being used to describe people who have an

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy fixation on achieving that perfect night's sleep to beat

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<v Speaker 1>last night's score. Oh, it's so important to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>then ironically that can actually prevent you from getting even

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<v Speaker 1>a good night's sleep, let alone the perfect night's sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>And perhaps the more ironic thing is that these users

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<v Speaker 1>could be worried about data that isn't even accurately reflecting

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<v Speaker 1>their sleep to begin with. They could be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a grade and thinking I can do better than that,

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<v Speaker 1>without knowing that they already have done better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Fitness trackers that claim to tell you how long you

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<v Speaker 1>spent during each stage of sleep in that cycle I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about earlier are not really reliable because they

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<v Speaker 1>measure movement, but sleep cycles don't depend on movements so

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<v Speaker 1>much as they depend upon brain activity, so fitness trackers

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<v Speaker 1>are literally not measuring the activity that's actually linked to

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<v Speaker 1>the various stages in the sleep cycle. There measuring movement,

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<v Speaker 1>not brain activity. Fitness trackers tend to give you are

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty high margin of error when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>tracking how much time you actually spent sleeping, not to

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<v Speaker 1>mention the quality of the sleep, so you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>really trust most sleep trackers to give you an accurate

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<v Speaker 1>reading of how long you slept, let alone how well

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<v Speaker 1>you did it, so you could be obsessing over a

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<v Speaker 1>grade that isn't reflecting reality in the first place. Now

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<v Speaker 1>these days, sleep trackers are finding their way into lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other products, including pads that are supposed to slip

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<v Speaker 1>under your mattress or special pillows that monitor the movement

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<v Speaker 1>of your head throughout the night. But they all pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much tracked the same thing. They're all tracking movement. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them do have nifty features that let you tie

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<v Speaker 1>together the sleeptracker with automated systems in your home. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say it's the morning and you're starting to move around,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's indicating that, hey, this guy has probably woken

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<v Speaker 1>up because he's moving around a lot, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to send commands to other automated systems and turns

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<v Speaker 1>the lights on or opens up the blinds, or just

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<v Speaker 1>the thermostat, or start your coffee maker. But it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me those products are still making promises about giving

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<v Speaker 1>you detailed information on your sleep cycles that might not

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<v Speaker 1>be totally realistic. When we come back, we'll look at

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<v Speaker 1>some devices that are marketed as sleep trackers that don't

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<v Speaker 1>even require you to wear a device on your body.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do they track your sleep? You'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>listen carefully, But first let's take a quick break to

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<v Speaker 1>thank our sponsor. So there are a couple of newer

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<v Speaker 1>products that have hit the market. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>name them, but there are a couple of different ones

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<v Speaker 1>that hit the market recently that don't require contact in

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<v Speaker 1>order to track your sleep. So what are they doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're actually using radio waves to monitor your sleep activity.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might think, what the heck does that mean. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they rely upon essentially the same approach as radar, only

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<v Speaker 1>they're using different radio frequencies at very very low power,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's there's nothing harmful going on. It's using radio

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<v Speaker 1>frequencies at a power that's even lower than say, bluetooth.

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<v Speaker 1>The devices, there are a couple of different ones out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll send radio signals. Those signals collide with objects in

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<v Speaker 1>the space I eat you, and then the radio signals

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<v Speaker 1>bounce back and go back to the device, which then

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<v Speaker 1>picks up that information, and when you're moving, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>moving toward or away, it will actually quote unquote know

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<v Speaker 1>that you are moving because of the nature of those

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<v Speaker 1>radio signals. This is all due to the Doppler effect.

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<v Speaker 1>We've learned about this in tech stuff before. But what

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<v Speaker 1>it means is that if you're moving toward the source

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>of radio waves, so let's say you're tossing in your

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>sleep and you turn and you're turning toward this device

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>as it's sending radio waves to you, and you're moving

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>towards those radio waves. When they bounce off you and

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>go back to the device, they're a little compressed, they're

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a little closer together those those wavelengths. Then the so

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the frequency has increased slightly because you moved closer. You

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>moved toward the source of those radio waves. So when

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it picks it up the device, it says, oh, this

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>joker's moving towards me. If you were moving away, then

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the radio waves would be a little elongated, to be

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a little longer than they were when they were sent out.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So now the device is saying, oh, that's joker is

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>moving away from me. Now this this guy needs some sleep.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>He's tossing all over the place, might be re enacting

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania two thousand right there in bed sucker. So you

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>then have some software that analyzes all this data, and

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>then it presents that data in an app that sorts

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>out your sleep supposedly by cycle. The devices are essentially

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>tracking your breathing and your movements, so it can actually

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>detect your breathing as well through the same process. So

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you could argue then away they're slightly more advanced than

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>your basic actograph because acto graphs, the basic ones don't

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 1>take your breathing into account. They're just measuring your movement.

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>But again, since your sleep cycle rely more on brain

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>activity than on movement, it might not provide the most

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>accurate data other than telling you what you might already know,

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>which is that you had a rough night, you weren't

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>able to settle down very easily. Chances are you know

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that already. Well, maybe that's not a problem. Maybe you

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just want to know in general how well you're sleeping.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>You might get a good enough idea about that from

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>these various trackers. But then again, like I said, if

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not sleeping well, you probably already know it just

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>because you feel tired, you feel a little foggy. You

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>probably have other indications already that you weren't sleeping well,

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So you don't necessarily need a device to say, hey,

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you didn't sleep well last night because

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you feel it. So your mileage may vary with the

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>utility of these devices. But what about technology that's meant

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to help you go to sleep, not just track your sleep,

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>but lull you into sleep. Well, again, I would recommend

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 1>keeping your s teptical hat on when you look at

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this technology that's meant to help people get to sleep.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not to say that companies or inventors that are

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>creating this technology are specifically trying to trick you or

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>scam you. They may be sincere in their efforts, but

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>many of those inventions are coming from people who they

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>come up with a cool idea. They come up with

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a way of making that idea reality, creating a gadget

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that actually works based upon that idea. But they aren't

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>usually sleep experts. So while they're making something that quote

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>unquote works the way they intended, it doesn't necessarily work

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>in cooperation with human physiology. So their gadget may do

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>what it was supposed to do on a technical level,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>but it may not be actually useful in a practical level.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about some of these things. Um, and again,

0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I am not a sleep expert. I cannot say definitively

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>whether these devices work or don't work. I'm just saying

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>incorporate some critical thinking. So at c the company Phillips

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 1>introduced a thing I guess you could call it a headband.

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>It looks really funky. It's called the smart sleep and

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that's all one word, smart sleep. You'd wear it, and

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to monitor your brain activity during sleep. Now,

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>since that's the real indicator for which sleep cycles you're

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>passing through it in any given time, that a part

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>at least is right on track, right, you want to

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>measure brain waves more than movement or breathing because it's

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you more accurately how much time you

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>spent in each stage of the sleep cycle. However, I

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know how accurately it can read brainwave activity. That's

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>actually a little tricky. You know. If you're using an

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>e G, you would typically use electrodes placed in specific

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>spot along the scalp, and there are even versions of

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that that go beyond that. They require implanted electrodes. That's

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about surgery in that case too, surgically implant sensors.

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>But there are lots of e G s that just

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>use the surface level sensors. These sensors have to be

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty sensitive to pick up brainwave activity because they have

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to detect it through the skull, and typically they can

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>only detect the surface level activity, not anything deeper. Because again,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got a pretty good insulator with that skull there.

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So this consumer level device is supposed to monitor those

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>brain waves and detect the various stages in the sleep cycle,

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and when you enter slow wave sleep, the device begins

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to play customized audio tones through special bone conduction speakers.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Bone conduction means that the speakers are going to send

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>vibrations of sound directly through your skull so that they

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>travel to your inner ear without having to play through

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the air, so that the sound travels through your ear canal. Ideally,

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that would mean that if you happen to sleep in

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the same room as other people, those other people are

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to hear those sleep tones going off in

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night because it's going to be

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>playing it directly against your skull. Does it work, I

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>have no idea. I am skeptical. I tried to search

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>for any clinical trial information about this, because it maybe

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it does work, but I couldn't find any actual clinical trials.

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I did find a proposed study, so it sounds like

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it's one that has not yet actually happened. That proposed

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>study comes from Phillips itself, and the description of it

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>does not fill me with confidence. Honestly, the description of

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the study begins like this quote. This study is a

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>non randomized, unblinded, uncontrolled case series clinical trial validating the

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:57.959
<v Speaker 1>smart Sleep product including sleep Mapper app in the home setting.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>In the quote, so, the fact that it's non randomized, unblinded,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and uncontrolled does not seem like it's a very scientifically

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:13.399
<v Speaker 1>rigorous approach. Those are all flags for me. I would

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 1>much prefer I randomized, blinded and controlled test where you

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>have a control group, you don't know each subject wouldn't

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>know whether he or she is in the control group

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>or the the actual test group. They would be randomly selected.

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>All of that would be much better if you want

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>scientific rigor. However, when you realize the purpose of the

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>study is really to legitimize a product that's already out

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the market, you start to get the feeling that

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 1>perhaps Phillips isn't super invested in making sure it has

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the scientific chops to back up the claims. But that's

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>all guesswork on my part though. That's just the skeptic

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and cynic in me talking, So it doesn't necessarily mean

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the product doesn't work. I'm just skeptical, and I suggest

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>people use critical thinking. But hey, what about a sleep robot? Yeah,

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>you're ready to hear this one. Tarry Tary is really

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>excited about hearing about the sleep robot. So the sleep robot,

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you're probably already imagining some sort of you know, maybe

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like a like a robo Teddy Bear, or maybe it's

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a robot that's fully sized, humanoid robot that

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 1>can you know, spoon you. But no, it kind of

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>looks like a giant kidney bean made out of fabric,

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like a plush kidney bean that weighs about four pounds.

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to hug it when you're going to sleep,

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>so you do kind of spoon it. You lay on

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>your side and you hug this this kidney bean like,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we all want to when we go

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 1>to bed at night. We're just like, God, I wish

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I had an enormous kidney bean I could cut all right. Now,

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Well now you can uh with this somnos sleep robot.

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>The robot. Some people argue it's being very generous to

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>call it a robot has a speaker, and it has

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a smart card reader, so you can actually store music

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>on a smart card and then insert the smart card

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 1>into the robot and it will play back whatever music

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you've put in there. So if you want, you know,

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>nice soothing classical music, or some very gentle electronic music,

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 1>or maybe you want Andrew w. K telling you to

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>party in your sleep, you could do that. And it

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>has a mechanism also inside of the thing that simulates breathing.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>So now you've got a breathing kidney bean clutched to

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>your chest. Now, the idea is that you would hug

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>this thing and you would slowly try to adjust your

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>breathing so that your breathing rate would match the pattern

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that the device had set, and this would help you

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>relax and bring on sleep. The device is supposed to

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>shut off automatically, wants a de text that the user

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.479
<v Speaker 1>has fallen asleep, so it doesn't work well. It's based

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>off principles that have been studied by sleep specialists, including

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>this method of controlling your breathing in order to become

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>more relaxed. Next, there are a lot of meditation techniques

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>out there that focus on breathing and it's a good

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>way to prepare your body for sleep. But whether or

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>not this particular device works, I don't know. It is

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>at least based on those principles, however, so UH, you

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>might find a device helpful in making sure you're breathing properly,

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're guiding your breathing to match the pattern that

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>this thing sets, but typically you could do that by

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>yourself if you really wanted to UM. It requires a

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of focus and it may require a little practice

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to get to that, and you might even require listening

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to like a guided meditation track to help you set

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the right pace for your breathing to help relax and

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>bring on sleep. But that could be significantly cheaper than

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>spending fifty dollars on a robot kidney bean. So I

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't really covered technology that's meant to help with sleep disorders,

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>such as a c PAP machine that's also known as

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a continue with positive airway pressure machine. Those are used

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 1>to help treat sleep apnea. So I'll have to do

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a full episode dedicated to that technology in the future.

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Much of that technology has been through rigorous testing because

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>this is technology that falls into the category of medical equipment,

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.399
<v Speaker 1>So most countries require that anything that's being marketed as

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a piece of medical equipment has to reach a certain

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>standard of performance to prove that actually does what's supposed

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to do, that's medically beneficial, that uh, it has been

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>tested thoroughly to make sure that it's safety use. Otherwise

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>it's illegal. The devices I mentioned in this episode really

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:45.240
<v Speaker 1>aren't medical devices. They might make certain claims that kind

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of tread into the field of medicine a little bit,

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>but they typically tend to be very very careful about

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that so that they don't make any outright medical claims

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>because that would require them to also go through this

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 1>whole rigorous testing procedure, which could ultimately result in one

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of these products being told or the company is being told,

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but this doesn't meet the standards that we

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>have set. And then you have a company that has

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>invested all this money in a product and it can't

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>sell it. So it makes economic sense to not go

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>down that pathway. However, it can be somewhat misleading, particularly

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>if you are a fairly naive consumer. So again, use

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that critical thinking. Sleep is very very important, and ultimately

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I would argue that if you find something that works

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>for you, whether it is scientifically proven to be effective

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>or not, ultimately doesn't matter if it works for you.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>If you find that a sleeping robot actually does make

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you sleep better, or that by tracking your sleep you

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>are getting better sleep night after night, then by all

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>means you should do that just because thing may not

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have scientific evidence to back it as being broadly applicable.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>If it's working for you and you need that sleep,

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and we all know you need that sleep, then you

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 1>know as they do it. Also, I mean, I've done

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in a whole episode about a s m R. And

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>while I don't really know if there's any truly scientific

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>explanation for the a s m R phenomenon, I do

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.760
<v Speaker 1>find them incredibly relaxing and they do put me to sleep.

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>So I use that all the time. I use it

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 1>with my you know, critical thinking skills, but I still

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>enjoy them and they still put me to sleep. So

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll do another episode about a s m R

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>in the future and talk to another a s m

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>R artist, because that was a lot of fun that

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>last time. In the meantime, if you guys are still awake,

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you haven't used this podcast to lull yourselves into a

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>deep sleep, why don't you contact me let me know

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 1>what kind of topics I should cover in the future,

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>whether they are technologies, companies, personalities in tech. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>an interview that you would like me to do in

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