1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Casey Smith. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: Dear, season is finally here, specifically, archery season has finally arrived. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Hunters around the country are excited. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: However, weird weather, food sources, and just questionable deer movement 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: has everybody a little on edge. We get the reports 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: from around the country to give you what you need 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: to know. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: This is rutfresh. Let's go. 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: Welcome to rutfresh. This is your host, Tyler Jones. Casey 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: Smith at this with me. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: What's going on, dude, Yo, Just hanging out, dude, just 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: actually doing some hunting, which is nice. We're archery white 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: tail deer honting, which is one of my favorite things 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: to do. 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: Guess what, it's white tail Week. 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 4: It's right and this podcast is brought to you by 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: First Light, who happens to be running a sale on 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 4: white tail pattern called Specter that is their first Light 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: Camo pattern and things that you can find online at 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: a good price that are very quality made equipment for 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: you to go kill some white tails with this year. 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: Right man and white Till Week is a lot more about, 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: you know, good deals on good gear because the medior 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: feed in general has got a bunch of stuff going 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: on for white tail right now, in fact, celebrating white 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: Tail Man. The Element guys are on the media feed. Wow, yeah, 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: they go crazy. So anyways, we talk a lot about 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: spotting stalk stuff on that and you know we are 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: going to have on our Elements uh podcast there will 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: be uh a October Q and A and I'm sure 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna cover a lot of that spot stalk and 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: all kinds of other white tail questions that you all 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: have singing in. 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: So check that out if you haven't. 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: It launched the same day as this podcast, but yeah, 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: it is white Tail Wink across Metior platforms. 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: So uh f h F first lot. Everybody's just going 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: wild about. 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: This stuff, and and it really is a lot more 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: about like, let's talk about the most hunted big game 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: animal North. 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: America a little bit because it's pretty important, that's right. 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's cool because there's they're around everywhere, and there's 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: something it's hard. 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: To beat a big horn sheep, you know what I mean. 51 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: That's right, you just don't get to hunt it, you 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 53 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: I still I still put a white tail, a big 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: white tail buck up against it, you know. I mean, like, 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: you know, maybe one that I might have had a 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: chance to shoot recently, or maybe another one I had 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 4: a chance to shoot recently. 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: Maybe they recently. 60 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: So I think in the spirit of white till week, 61 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: we're until about our week a little bit. Yeah, the 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: man Tyler Jones as a vendetta against the state of 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: Nebraska and he wants to shoot all their white tails. 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: I did say that it's like his it's like his 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: mo o. Dude. 66 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: He wants to kill every white tail deer in Nebraska, 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: and he has got a good start on him. 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 4: Well, they they got me for a couple of years there, bro, 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: they had me over there. 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: That is the first happening. I'm not gonna lie. 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, they so, you know, in Nebraska, the first couple 72 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: of years I went, it was a struggle. There's a 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: lot of dudes competing for early season deer there and 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: it's just been it was as tough. It's hot, there's bugs. 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: There was mosquitos like crazy. One year I had I 76 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: had worked in on a really nice velvet eight point 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: one afternoon and got him at twelve yards and when 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: he came out, he kind of peeped me in a 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: big old huggy bear sitting next to me getting ready 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: to video and shoot this deer, you know, and that'll happen. 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: Your profile is just twice as. 82 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: Big when you got another guy in the woods with you, 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, if not more, I mean 84 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: you start spreading out and multiplying, and things just get 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: you know, cameras and big old mics on top and 86 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: all this stuff. So it makes it difficult to kill 87 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: deer and get real aggressive, which you know is something 88 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: you like to do. You're a very aggressive hunter. Not 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: very but you're an aggressive hunter. You understand the knowledgeably 90 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 4: aggressive side of things. And anyway, so the first two 91 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 4: years and lots of driving and lots of being broke 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: to like nineteen was one of the more poor years 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: of my life, you know, twenty nineteen and you know 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: it was tough. Guess what about twenty twenty one? You 95 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: talked me into going back to Nebraska. I was done 96 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: two years. I figured out I didn't want to be 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: there again. It was hard, it was tough, it was hot. 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: You talked me into going back, and I end up 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: shooting a really nice buck. The memory is such a 100 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: good memory, man, And it was fun night. There was, 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: I mean, from the whole day, the transpire of the 102 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: whole day. 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: It was awesome. 104 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 4: And I think it was September fourth when I shot 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: that deer, so he was real fresh out of velvet, 106 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: you know, and just had like them spiky sharp things 107 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: on his bases, you know, and just a wide, nice 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: buck that came to like three yards and smoked him 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: straight down. And then that was twenty one. On twenty two, 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: you and I go back and we do the double thing, 111 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 4: which just you know, released earlier the spring in video 112 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: format on the Mediator channel, which is part that's the 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: first part, one first part of our series of the 114 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: buck Truck, So you can check that out if you 115 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: haven't seen it, and it's a cool video. We double 116 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: within like fifteen minutes of each other, and we're sitting 117 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: like eighty five yards apart or something eighty one yards 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 4: something like that. It was awesome. So this year we 119 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: come back. And I actually wasn't really thinking double until 120 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: you mentioned it, I think, and uh but I didn't 121 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: want to shoot a deer. I just I just wasn't 122 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: thinking like, oh, we should really, you know, we should 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: like continue the tradition here. 124 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, oh, let's go too kill some deer. 125 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: I knew it was a possibility, but we had pretty 126 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: much three days to hunt, and mornings have been like 127 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: hot weather, and they just hadn't been great. We have, 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: in fact hunting mornings and didn't see any deer anymore, 129 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: Like no deer, not even dose. 130 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, uh so it's really three evening hunts. 131 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: So it's like, uh, I guess your chances of doubling 132 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: up are pretty low. It's like a kind of like 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: a slot machine almost, right. I don't know much about that. 134 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: But there's three of them, right, you know, like they 135 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: matching them up is going to be pretty tough. But 136 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: I knew there was a possibility because we're in an 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: area there's a lot of deer, we're hunting some really 138 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: good food sources, and you know that's you know, I 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: both tend to shoot a deer. 140 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: So it's the way I know, man, I got to 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 4: shoot more than once on that trip. 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: Actually, dang you letting that cat out of the background. 143 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean there's some dose that got killed and 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: stuff like that to you. 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a fun trip. It was, man, 146 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: and so I. 147 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: Talk about a lot of that on our podcast. I 148 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: imagine the uh, we're just gonna leave it there. 149 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: The double. 150 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: The double may or may not have happened. It happened, Okay, 151 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: it happened. I think you just gotta you gotta figure 152 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: out the details on our podcast. Yeah, that's a good idea, 153 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: it is. 154 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: So with that being said, on that note, we are 155 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: going to give you what we think about Nebraska for 156 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: a fresh extra report here at the beginning of archery season, 157 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: kind of as a celebration of what's a week Tyler Jones, 158 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: knowing what you know about what's going down right now 159 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: in the state of Nebraska, what would you give the 160 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: next week on a scale of one to ten for 161 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: predicted buck movement? 162 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: I give a reason why. 163 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: Yes, I would predict that buck movement will end, and 164 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: I will predict that it will move from a four 165 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: to a six. 166 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: But give them the Midwest six. It's a Midwest six 167 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: in there. Way to go to. 168 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: By the way, if you hear somebody from the Midwest 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: on Refresh and it ain't the rut, it's probably gonna 170 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: be a six. That's a very thing. It's like, oh, 171 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: it's a little bit optimistic, you know. It's kind of like, man, 172 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: we might get somebody in there that can change our policies, 173 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: and this thing is better for us. 174 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: Who knows? It seems like we. 175 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: I think that, Oh you have reasons, so yeah, yeah, 176 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: the reasons is. The main reason is there's a pretty 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: good cold front coming across kind of Midwest, and I 178 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: think that what I have noticed in the last week 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: of hunting has been, like you said, slow mornings and 180 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 4: even the evenings. It's been hot enough that it has 181 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: kind of stifled the It's almost compressed the movement. I 182 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: feel like, into a it's just hot and windy. So 183 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: everything is like last minute. And I have a real 184 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: good reason as of last night why that's the case. 185 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: But like twenty minutes before shooting light, all of a sudden, 186 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: it was just like a wave of deer right and 187 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: I saw that the first evening I hunted too, where 188 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 4: it was like everything just right at dark just started 189 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 4: to really I mean, you see some those early on Nebraska, 190 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: but like all the bucks just ride at dark Man, 191 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: So I think that it will increase. It'll bump a 192 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: point or two going into maybe three to five. It's 193 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: caught three to five. 194 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it sounds pretty good. I'm about right there. 195 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: I don't think i'd change what you had to say 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: on that at all. I would also add though, that 197 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: from my observations, the bucks were still in bachelor groups, 198 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: but they were a little looser and everybody. 199 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: Was feeling the juice. 200 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: They started scraping while we were hunting and rubbing, and 201 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: in fact, I saw a mature buck come over and 202 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: run or kind of bumped, didn't run him off, but 203 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: bumped a two year old who was rubbing, and he 204 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: went to rubbing on the same So I think that 205 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: within the next week we're going to see those bachelor 206 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: groups start to really break apart. And if you've had 207 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: deer patterned, that could be bad for you. But if 208 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: you haven't and you've been wondering where the bucks are, 209 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: that could be a really exciting time for you because 210 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,239 Speaker 3: they're gonna So deer aren't territorial from what I understand, 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: but they are aggressive, and they have a hierarchy, you know, 212 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: a level of who's dominant. So you're going to end 213 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: up with these little bubbles that bucks kind of try 214 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: to stay out of, and that's whey they starts craping 215 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: and doing all that stuff. Anyways, I think that if 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: you haven't been seeing bucks, there's a chance you start 217 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: having bucks show up this week with the cold weather 218 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: and the dispersion. So it's a good time of the 219 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: year to be a whitetail hunter. Let's go listen to 220 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: what the guys have to say for reports. I've gotten 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: Nathan Koenig from Alberta, Canada with Vortex Canada. He has 222 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: been doing some whitetail hunting up in the North Country. 223 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: Hey, dude, what's up, man? 224 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 5: This is it man. 225 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 6: I just got back from a fifteen day hunting trip, 226 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 6: a successful hunting trip, so things are winding down a 227 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 6: bit for me, but picking up for probably a lot 228 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 6: of the people out here in the woods. 229 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: Dude, that's awesome. 230 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: I that sounds like a pretty long ago of it 231 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: for fifteen days, but I'm glad to hear you had 232 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: some success. You killed a really nice wattail buck from 233 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: what I saw. Can you tell me what the hunting 234 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: was like. 235 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: Was it hot? Was it tough? What was going on 236 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: up there? Oh? 237 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 6: Man, it was a lot, a lot of deer movement, 238 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 6: Lots of dos and smaller bucks have been out seeding, 239 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 6: laid into the mornings and early early in the evenings 240 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 6: up until dark. So it's been it's been pretty awesome. Actually, 241 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 6: the mature bucks they seem to be hiding a little bit, 242 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 6: probably out exploring their territories, maybe taking inventory of does, 243 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 6: but they've been fairly patternable, So it's been. It's been good. 244 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 6: It was an awesome hunt for sure, Nathan. 245 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: They eating. 246 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of alf alpha, a lot 247 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 6: of hayfield. 248 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 5: I've been finding them in. 249 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, are there are there any Are they doing any 250 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: any native brows options up there right now? 251 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: Is it pretty much? Ag is just a way to go? 252 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 6: I would say it's the way to go. I've basically 253 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 6: I stuck to all the eggs because the deer's are 254 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: are piling in. It's starting to get cooler in the evening, 255 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 6: so I think they're starting to try and get that 256 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 6: fat layer built up for the nasty winters we have 257 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 6: up here. 258 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: Can you correlate that cooler temperatures with an earlier movement 259 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: from those bucks in the evenings. 260 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 6: I would say the little, the littler, the smaller bucks, 261 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 6: less mature bucks are moving trying to get that feed 262 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 6: and hanging out a little bit with the doors. But 263 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 6: the more mature bucks they're starting now that it's getting cooler, 264 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 6: just starting to explore the territory and uh looking, you know, 265 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 6: take inventory of those dolls, seeing where they're at. 266 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: So, alfalfa is kind of a. 267 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Different food source than a lot of the other agriculture, 268 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: right because it's always there that doesn't rotate very much. 269 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: Is there any rhyme or reason to what makes a 270 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: a alfalfa field good? 271 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 6: I think it's just a field that you know, the 272 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 6: farmers aren't in all, aren't in laid into the fall, 273 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 6: and they're once they get that second cut of hay off, 274 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 6: it grows grows back. So there's lots of food there 275 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: for them, lots of good nutrients. Yeah, they love it, 276 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 6: They love that stuff. 277 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: Do you think that the moon had any effect on 278 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: the hunting the past a little bit here? You know, 279 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: we had a full moon cycle just went through. 280 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 6: You know, I started hunting and it was the new moon, 281 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: and by the time I was finishing up my hunt, 282 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 6: it was the full moon, the harvest moon, and I honestly, 283 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 6: I didn't see a huge difference in the amount of 284 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 6: deer movement from one of my hunt till the end. 285 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 6: I was seeing the same you know, twenty five dos 286 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 6: and six bucks out in the field, and the big 287 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 6: the big deer that I did see, they seem to 288 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 6: be on on a site like a rotation. So I've 289 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 6: seen them every ten days, so I've seen them. My 290 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 6: second day of the hunt, I saw two big bucks, 291 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 6: and then on my twelfth day of my hunt, I 292 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 6: saw the same two big bucks in the same field. 293 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: That's interesting. So going forward, you got some cooler tamps 294 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 4: that you've been talking about. Uh, we got some different 295 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: moon cycles. Are you thinking like in the next week 296 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: that there would be better hunting or and also would 297 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: you hunt like the same pattern or would you do 298 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: something different? 299 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 6: I think the I think the bucks are going to 300 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 6: be starting to get a little more nocturnal. I think 301 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 6: it's gonna you're going to get that kind of an 302 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 6: October lull where the bigger bucks are again they're just touring, 303 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: coming out feeding later because they're They're smart. They know 304 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 6: they know that hunting season's coming as soon as that 305 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 6: first frost shows up, and they seem to just start 306 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 6: going nocturnal. So I do think that for mature bus 307 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 6: it's gonna you're gonna you're gonna be waiting a little 308 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: longer and potentially not seeing them out as much during 309 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 6: the day. 310 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: Gotcha. 311 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: So if you had to, if you had to rate 312 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: the buck movement in the next week based off of 313 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: any moon weather variables or just even diurnal period, would 314 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: you what would you rate it on a scale of 315 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: one to ten? 316 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: What you just your your prediction. 317 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: I think the last week was probably up there. It 318 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 6: was probably an eighth. But I think in the next 319 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 6: coming weeks it's, like I said, it's going to slow 320 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 6: down a bit. Probably, I'd give it a six out 321 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 6: of ten. Okay, to be a little. 322 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: Slower, gotcha. Gotcha. Well awesome, dude. 323 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: Well we really appreciate the report from Canada and I 324 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: hope you have a great risk of the fall. 325 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 6: No problem, thanks lot, guys, have a great day all. 326 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: Right now on the phone, I've got Scotty Lego. Scotty 327 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: is an Olympic medallist and also just a hunting Attic 328 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: from New Hampshire. What's going on, Scotty? 329 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: Hey, how you guys doing. 330 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: We're doing well, man, We're uh Actually, I'll say this, 331 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: So when you go up north, out of Texas and 332 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: other places in the South, you end up in places 333 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: that don't really spend a lot of time or money 334 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: on ac and so frankly, it's pretty hot where we're 335 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: sitting right now. We're indoors and you know, it's like 336 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: ninety where we're hunting, so pretty warm. But other than that, man, 337 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: I can't complain. How's everything going for you? 338 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeez ah, Yeah, everything's going good, man. 339 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 7: Just it's the season that we've all been waiting for 340 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 7: us is here and I'm about fifteen days into it 341 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 7: or a. 342 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: Little bit over. 343 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 7: But yeah, sign's starting to pop up in the woods 344 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 7: and it's a good, good time to be out there, 345 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 7: and it's it is definitely a little abnormally warm, but 346 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 7: nothing nothing like ninety degrees going out hunting in your shorts. 347 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 348 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well we've been trying to find our way lately. 349 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: You've been finding your way in the elk woods and 350 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: in the deer woods. Talk a little bit though about 351 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: what the deer have been doing in New Hampshire. 352 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, so we have. 353 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 7: You know, we have a decent population where I live. 354 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 7: You know, I'm in southern New Hampshire. I can't speak 355 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 7: for the northern part of New Hampshire because that's a 356 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 7: world of difference. But yeah, you know, the deer move 357 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 7: in and there are This year is pretty different as 358 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 7: far for a couple of different things. This acorns are 359 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 7: super heavy this year, and apples and beech nuts and 360 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 7: essentially everything that can drop is dropping. So I think 361 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 7: it's spreading the deer belt, which is kind of dropping 362 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 7: deer sightings down a little bit. But yeah, they're out 363 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 7: there and I'm starting to see bucks laying down, some signs, 364 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 7: starting to see scrapes opened up, you know, trees being 365 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 7: rubbed up, and yeah, I'm just I'm just trying to 366 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 7: hone in on a big one right now. 367 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: That's cool, man. 368 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: So beech nuts are intriguing because I don't know if 369 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: a large portion of the country has that as a 370 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: hard mass crop. Is that pretty much just in sequence 371 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: with when acorns are or when does when does the 372 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: heaviest part of that hit the ground and how much 373 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 3: do the deer hit them? 374 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're dropping right now. 375 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 7: I think they are not even close to what an 376 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 7: acorn would be or what in white acorn would be. 377 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 7: As far as preference, I think, you know, if they're 378 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 7: in their way or if they had nothing else, they'll 379 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 7: definitely hit them. 380 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 5: But it's nothing I would really key in on. 381 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 7: Maybe if I can get close to, you know, a 382 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 7: buck buck betting area or where I suspect he might 383 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 7: be and that might be the first first tree he 384 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 7: might go hit mill, that might be a factor. 385 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 5: But yeah, they don't, they don't really love them. 386 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 7: But in some areas where they don't have a lot 387 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 7: of oaks, like up north, they'll definitely key in on 388 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 7: them and bear as well too. 389 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: Are you doing any morning hunting right now or is 390 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: it a lot of evenings. 391 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm doing a little bit of both. I will 392 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 7: I won't go to my I guess my best spots 393 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 7: in the morning because I have no clue where they 394 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 7: might be coming coming from or how they're. 395 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 5: Getting into their bedding area. 396 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 7: But you know, we're I love shooting dose, so where 397 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 7: a lot of it's you know, a couple of dough tags, 398 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 7: actually three dough tags where I'm at, so I love 399 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 7: having that opportunity as well. 400 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 4: Scotty, is the moon played into any of the hunting 401 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: lately do you feel like? 402 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 7: To be honest, I don't really pay attention to it 403 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 7: too much. I know some people live and die by it. 404 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 7: I know some people don't believe in it. I just 405 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 7: don't really, I don't really know to be quite so. 406 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 7: I did notice though the other day, when uh, one 407 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 7: of your one of your guests on Rockfresh, He's like, yeah, 408 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 7: you know, like I noticed there's a lot of midday 409 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 7: activity when it was a I think it was a 410 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 7: full moon. And sure enough, you know, I ended up 411 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 7: seeing quite a few deer out in the open middle 412 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 7: of the day. But that also had we had a 413 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 7: slight drizzle, slight rain, so that could have been a 414 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 7: factor as well. 415 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 5: We're undetermined. 416 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 3: Well, looking forward, I see, uh, the weather forecast for 417 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: New Hampshire is pretty flatline, you know. Uh, there's not 418 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: a lot of fronts or anything moving through over the 419 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: next week. So uh, as you look to the next week, 420 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: what would you rate your prediction for buck movement on 421 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: a scale of one to ten. 422 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 9: Oh? 423 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 7: Man, I hate I hate to discourage anyone out there, 424 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 7: and I'm an optimist, but I guess to give it 425 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 7: a three point five just for a couple of different factors. 426 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 7: One just the flatline weather abnormally warm, and I think 427 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 7: just having the deer right out with all kinds of 428 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 7: sources available. I think we'll limit your number of sightings, 429 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 7: but I'm gonna go three point five to four. 430 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: I killed a buck on a two out of one 431 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: hundred days, so sometimes it can work, man. So I 432 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: appreciate the honest report, Scottie, and uh, just the good 433 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: thoughts about different food sources and those kind of things. 434 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 2: Man. 435 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll get to have you back on sometime later 436 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: this year, maybe give us another New Hampshire report, maybe 437 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: when it's rocking and rolling up there. Appreciate your time man, 438 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: and and your optimism at times as well, and hopefully 439 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: we'll get to talk to you again. 440 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: Man. I hope you kill a big buck. 441 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 5: All right? Thank you guys, you as well. Good luck. 442 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: This is Jimmy Shyy. He gets after it in Central Pa. 443 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: Up in Pennsylvania. 444 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: Uh, they take a lot of pictures of elk, but 445 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: kill some really nice white tail bucks as well. 446 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 8: What's up, dude, all working, hunting, loving life man. 447 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: That's it. 448 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: Man, that sounds like a pretty good time. Y'all actually 449 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: had some pretty good success here in the past week. 450 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: Your your girlfriend shot a real nice buck. 451 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 8: Yep opening day and we don't only had one day 452 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 8: to hunt so far this year and it paid off. 453 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: So that's cool, man. So what tactic were you using 454 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 3: to set up on that deal? 455 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 8: I just had I hide her set up on a 456 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 8: little transition area where I knew they were betting. 457 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 7: Uh. 458 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 8: They were kind of feeding along a ridge acorn ridge 459 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 8: up into some soybeans that the neighboring property highs planted. 460 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 4: So when you say transition, you mean like some like 461 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: cover to more open hardwoods. 462 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, the bottom there is real thick cover, and they 463 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 8: come up over the ridge and they kind of crease 464 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 8: top of the hill. It's a little oak flat, and 465 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 8: then they go into the soybeans. 466 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 4: Is there a place to get them on the top 467 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: of the hill. Is there a saddle there or something 468 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: like that, or are you just. 469 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 8: Kind of there's kind of like a little saddle there, 470 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 8: And they seem to be liking the one side of 471 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 8: it more than the other. So I put her standing 472 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 8: there near my trail camera and they just read the 473 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 8: script they've been doing all the last couple of months. 474 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: There, Yeah, just big white okay acorns. 475 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 8: Uh, there's a mixed red and white. But the whites 476 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 8: are doing really really well this year. 477 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: So you said they were decinating at soybeans. Are those 478 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: beans still green or they turning yellow? 479 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: Right now? 480 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: They're still green? 481 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 8: Oh wow, I've seen some of them are turning a 482 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 8: little bit, but there's still. 483 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: Quite a few of screen got you man? That's cool. 484 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: So as we look forward kind of like to this 485 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: next week, here, are they still gonna be doing the 486 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: same whereas those beans start to change and the acorns 487 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: kind of change, are are you gonna be looking at 488 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: doing something different? 489 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 8: I'm gonna be looking into and they typically, you know, 490 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 8: after a couple of weeks of archery and pa here 491 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 8: they changed changed tactics a little bit and started heading 492 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 8: closer to the betting where I'll try to target. 493 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: So you know, it was a it was a full 494 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: moon recently. Did that affect you y'all? 495 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 8: It almost seemed like it did. Yeah, I'd imagine it. 496 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: Did negatively or positively. 497 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 8: I think positively. I think I was kind of prepared 498 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 8: for this year. I haven't really paid attention in years prior, 499 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 8: and I tried to pay attention a little more this year, 500 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 8: and I was hoping just from reading when they were 501 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 8: gonna move, and they actually moved very close to what 502 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 8: was projected online. 503 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: How about that? 504 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: Man, y'all fixing to make me a moon believer up 505 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: on this podcast, Dude, I'm telling. 506 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: You moon believer off fair well. 507 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: Ago you told me that you had a a number 508 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: one buck that's still out running around. 509 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: Is that a buck you're going to try to move 510 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: in on this week? 511 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 8: That's that's the one I'm hoping I's wum mainly targeting 512 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 8: on and I'm trying not to push them too hard, 513 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 8: but not having a lot of time to hunt, I'm 514 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 8: trying to also be a little aggressive as well. 515 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: So with that aggression, are you are you doing running 516 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: gun setups or are you just kind of picking the 517 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: preset stand that you think is the best chance. 518 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 8: I'm kind of I don't normally do run and gun. 519 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 8: I use a saddle and I just try to try 520 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 8: to follow the sign around as best I can and 521 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 8: try to scout as much as I can and read 522 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 8: the cameras. 523 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: So if you're going forward in the next week, you're 524 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: going to be. Are you going to still be thinking 525 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: about moon stuff and trying to trying to create uh 526 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: success through when those like predicted movement times are based 527 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: off the moon. 528 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 8: I'm going to keep an eye on it. Like I'm 529 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 8: not a totally firm believer, but I mean I'm you know, 530 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 8: at one time and done. I don't know if it's 531 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 8: a coincidence or not. So yeah, yeah, I don't want 532 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 8: to I don't want to rely on it too heavy, 533 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 8: but I think it could be something to look into. 534 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, cool man, So uh in the next week based 535 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: off of obviously moon, since your believer now, and uh, 536 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 4: whether and anything else very wise that you can think of. 537 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: What would you rate the buck movement predicted buck movement 538 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: on a scale of one to ten. 539 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 8: I think we're gonna be mid range four or five. 540 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 8: I think a lot of deer is still pretty nocturnal, 541 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 8: but I think you can still catch in like unpressured areas. 542 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 8: You might see some decing before it are or right 543 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 8: by for daylight movement. 544 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha? Yea cool. 545 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: That's a pretty good, honest report. I think that's pretty 546 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: realistic for this time of year. And I'll tell you 547 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: what sounds like You've got a beat on him there 548 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: in central Pennsylvania, and I hope you get after that 549 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 3: big number one target bug. 550 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: Dude. 551 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 8: Well, thank you much. I hope so too. 552 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Cool dude, We'll talk to you soon. Thanks, man, They. 553 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: Talk to you soon. 554 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 2: All right. 555 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 4: I've got Parker McDonald from the Southern Collective. He's out 556 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: in West Virginia just editing and driving roads and hunting 557 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: and getting reports and all kinds of stuff. 558 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: Man, what's going on? 559 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 9: Oh dude, just sitting outside and join the view. I've 560 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 9: never been to West Virginia before, and let something. It's 561 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 9: a it's a big country out here. 562 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, is it? Are you in the hills? Oh yeah, yeah, 563 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: oh yeah. 564 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 10: If it's not the hills, then I don't know what else? 565 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: What else would yeah? Yeah? Have you uh you done 566 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: any hollering. 567 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 10: A couple of times? 568 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's. 569 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 4: Any Oliver Anthony's out there hollering back at you. 570 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. 571 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: It's just Appalaysia, baby. West Virginia is known for Mountain Mama's. 572 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 3: But have you seen any Mountain papas is in big 573 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: Bucks out there? 574 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: Uh? 575 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 10: So they're here, They're absolutely here. 576 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 9: It's like it's so crazy out in the in these 577 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 9: woods because there's so big, the country is so vast, 578 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 9: and it's like it's a very much a you gotta grind, 579 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 9: you gotta really want it. 580 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 10: You got to put in the sweat equity. 581 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 9: But when you get there to the places, there's a 582 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 9: good chance that there's gonna be some payoff there, you 583 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 9: know what I mean. 584 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I do. 585 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 4: I don't like that too, man, Like just the feeling 586 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: that if you put in the work, it's you got 587 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: a high chance instead of like I don't know, in 588 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: East Texas, you might be putting in the work and 589 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: still just end up hunting right next to it, dude, 590 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: you know whatever, not having a good chance. 591 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 9: So you put in the work, You put in the 592 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 9: work in it, and it's still a game of odds. 593 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 9: Whereas when you put in the work out here, you're 594 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 9: it's always going to be a game of ods, I 595 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 9: guess with deer hunting, but it's going to be uh, 596 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 9: you're gonna have greater odds. 597 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: To sure to get there sure. 598 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 10: I think. I think that's kind of the theme that 599 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 10: we've seen. 600 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: So this week we've talked to a lot of people 601 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: who are relating deer to agriculture, and I would imagine 602 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: that's not what's going on out there. 603 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: So what those deer doing. 604 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, most of the deer that have been seen have 605 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 9: been either on acrons right, just like most places in 606 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 9: the country. Early October and in late September we were 607 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 9: seeing that in North Dakota as well. But so right now, 608 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 9: the white oaks are just starting to drop here in 609 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 9: West Virginia. It's been super dry, not been a whole 610 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 9: lot of rain, and it's it's just been hot, you know. 611 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 10: So they're just now starting to drop. And so a 612 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 10: lot of the guys are seeing them out there. 613 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 9: But then guys are seeing them in the in the open, 614 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 9: like the open reclaimed stuff where there's a ton of 615 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 9: new growth and green stuff, and so that's what they're seeing. 616 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 9: I mean, if you if you're gonna kind of relate 617 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 9: agriculture to something, I would probably relate it to that. Sure, 618 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 9: those those big open like a clear cut basically it's 619 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 9: gonna do the same thing. 620 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: Have there been Have you seen any lunar effects on 621 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: deer movement? 622 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 623 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 10: Man, I don't know that I could honestly answer that question. 624 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 10: I guess we've been here for about four days and 625 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 10: it's been. 626 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: I think the way the mood has. 627 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 10: Been bright overhead around like middle of the night probably 628 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 10: you know, the whole time. 629 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: Hm. 630 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 9: So so you know, we don't know it's been the 631 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 9: same basically the whole time, So we don't know what 632 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 9: was like before. 633 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: And sure it might be like afterwards. Gotcha. 634 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: Well, if you look forward to the next week, there 635 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: is like a rain front coming this weekend when it's 636 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: gonna bring some cooler temperatures. 637 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: What do you think that's going to do the deer? 638 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: Oh? 639 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 10: Man, I mean, what I think is gonna happen is 640 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 10: if we get some rain here. 641 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 9: Friday, I think there's supposed to be a pretty big 642 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: temperature drop here and over the weekend. I think that 643 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 9: you're gonna start seeing Number one, you're gonna start seeing 644 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 9: maybe some more acres start dropping and be able to 645 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 9: pinpoint those hot food sources in the hills. And number two, 646 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 9: you're gonna start being able to find fresher sign right 647 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 9: like if it's not raining, you're gonna be. 648 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 10: Able to start finding that. 649 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 9: And then you add that on top of a cold front, 650 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 9: and the deer're gonna actually being up moving. I think 651 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 9: it's gonna do a lot for just being able to 652 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 9: be effective as a deer hunter and also the deer 653 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 9: being on their feet. 654 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: Oh man, let's go so scale a one to ten. 655 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: What would you predict buck movement to be like in 656 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: the next week or so? 657 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 9: Man, just because it's so drastic, I'm going to say 658 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 9: probably like a like a seven or an eight. 659 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 660 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: I like it, man, Well Parker, I like you, Man. 661 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: I appreciate you as a friend, and I just hope 662 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: that you guys have a lot of success everywhere you 663 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: go this year. Man, And uh, you know, everybody keep 664 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: an eye on Southern Collective. Man, there's doing some cool stuff. 665 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 4: And again, appreciate the report from West Virginia. And I 666 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 4: hope you get to kill all the bucks and those 667 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: especially in Alabama. 668 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 10: Absolutely, I appreciate it. 669 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: Man. 670 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 10: I feel the same way about you guys. 671 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: I hope that you get a chance at the biggest 672 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: buck of your life this week. And if if you 673 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: need more inspiration, need more hype, check out white Tail Week. 674 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: There's a link below click that it'll carry to all 675 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: the cool stuff white tail going on at meat Eater 676 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: also on the med Eater YouTube channel. The most recent 677 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: episode of Buck Truck has launched. It has got just 678 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: a gem of a human in there. Klay Nukeomb himself 679 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: came and hunted with us in Arkansas. We chased the 680 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: bucks around down the river bottoms. Be sure if you 681 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 3: haven't to watch the most recent episode of Buck Truck 682 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: link below. 683 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: On that note, one of our videos on our channel, 684 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: it's called the Whitetail Bombs, is going to be released 685 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: by that point two. This is a couple of our 686 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: cameraman or three of them, and they killed two bucks 687 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 4: on public land in Texas in the same day. It's 688 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: an awesome video that's going out on our channel, The Element. 689 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: And there's also one thing I need you guys to do. 690 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: There is a Caliber Battle article that is by Jordan Sellers. 691 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: It's on the website, the media webs go over there 692 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 4: and I need you guys. I'm not sure exactly how 693 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: you vote, but I need you to vote for me. Okay, 694 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: case you got to buy in the first round, let's go. 695 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 4: I do not have such luxury. I'm going against Garrett Long. 696 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: He's got a six ' five going against my two 697 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: forty three. I need you to vote for my caliber 698 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: so that me and Casey can go head to head 699 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 4: and then I can lose to his thirty thirty. 700 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, go over there and check that out. I appreciate it. 701 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 3: Man. 702 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: This has been root fresh, Stay fresh,