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It is Sunday, May nineteenth, Brigat. 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: Let's go. 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 4: We got a fun when we had two game seven today. 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: The Timberwolves beat the Nuggets, the Pacers beat the Knicks. 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: We've got our conference finals all matched up. We're so 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: excited to talk about all that. And we're gonna do 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: Duke Better of the Week and everything else too. As always, 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: I was hosted by the Jethroal Jenkins aka John Dragonfly Jones. 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: Not able to join us tonight, but we'll be back 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: on Tuesday when we go live. And I do have 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: some I have some exclusive Dragonfly Jones untweeted thoughts to 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: release live on the phone. This is like, this is 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: like what it used to be to be a television broadcaster. 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: It was like, Oh, I get to tell everyone what 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm starting the aka Mike. 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: Mother fucking Mike, and we. 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: Are produced tonight by the lovely and talented Josh Rodriguez. 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: Knicks fan extraordinary, very excited to hear Josh's thoughts. 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 5: I need something. 48 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like Josh, would you agree that there's 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: like a healthy vent diagram overlap between Hispanic people and 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: Italian people from New. 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: York at one thousand percent. We're so similar it's it's 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: absurd how similar we are. I mean, Spannon Elley are 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 6: right next to each other, so it's basically the same. 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 6: You think about it. 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: That's how that's a that's a good point, all right. 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: The fucking Timberwolves did it. 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean, like John, we were looking at John right, 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: they said we wouldn't do it. 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: I agree. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna even do that, Bro, But I did 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: say Game seven, I feel like it was repeatable. 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: It wasn't the same, But I think that defense bro 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: different different, different, different, and also ant. 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: At the top of the key is the difference making 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: to me. 67 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Ant giving them all like Bro Murray, the first half 68 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: and second half totally different player because Aunt put that 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: heat them. When they ratchet that defense up, it's it's 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's impossible to beat them, but they 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: make it extremely difficult. And we just saw that man 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: snatch their head at a motherfucking MVP, right the fucking 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: that's Bro. 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: So fucking excited. 75 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: Bro, this is I haven't been a society about basketball 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: in what since twenty sixteen, throughout the seventeen before. 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: We talk about the actual game. That's what I want 78 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: to talk about, because you and I said the same 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: thing when we hopped on I have friends who are 80 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say falling away from basketball, but they're much 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: more heavily. It was like fifty percent football, fifty percent basketball. 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: They're falling towards football. I do think the europe the europitization, 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: I do think that has something to do with it. 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 4: And we talked about that with Meryl. You know, I 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: have an argument in seventh grade about Jokic. Bro, with 86 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 4: your friends. You know, you're just not You could love 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: seeing and play all this other stuff. But I have 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: people texting me with emotion like you said. That was 89 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: emotion we saw and felt for bron versus Steph, not 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: for Jokich versions whatever else. And I feel like Aunt 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: being the guy that everyone wants, we all want to 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: be the face of the league has a lot to 93 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: do with that. But tell me about what Adrian was 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: saying to you. Tell me about how you felt watching 95 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: the Timberwolves snatch this shit back for for real American basketball. 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: As a dude who watches just because I love the game, 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: I haven't been that excited personally. 98 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: Agent will hit me up with highlight. He's been watching 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: hes talking about all his friends talking about it. 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Two but he said, I know this playoffs is good 101 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: because my best friend John is calling me talking about it, 102 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: and I know he watches all the games, but he 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: never hits anybody up to talk about outside of the podcast. 104 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: Like I really am enjoying it. 105 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: And I think the thing is it's Aunt, bro, Like 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: we when is when's the last time we saw a 107 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: player that was that good and that relatable and that 108 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: ship When he said, I told him, motherfucker Senior in 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: game seven told Chuck bring your ass. That's how my 110 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: niggas talk, bro, And we don't see people like like 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Brian KT all these guys, you know, what I mean, 112 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: Like they're so media trained, aunt doesn't give a fuck. 113 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: He's so relatable and he's too he just wanted me 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: over I like I was. I tweeted last game, I 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: say I need a jersey because I just. 116 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: Like who he is. 117 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: And on top of he's a great fucking basketball player, bro, 118 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: I mean, like he he is something special. And to 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: see him in a game seven struggle in the first half, 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, pick it up a little 121 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: bit in it, like it kind of figured out in 122 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: the in the in the third quarter, and then like 123 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: he's like, how I can really get shit doing this 124 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: on the defensive end? 125 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: You feel me? 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: And like I was telling I was talking to talking 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: to Josh about this shit. Like like when people talk 128 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: about getting a rhythm when you're playing, your best basketball 129 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: is jazz, you know what I mean, You can't. You 130 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: have to feel it when you when you're playing, when 131 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: you when you get in the rhythm, you have to 132 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: feel it, you know what I mean. If you're counting 133 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: your steps on something and five and six and seven, 134 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: that's not You're not gonna be at your best, you 135 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And that's what he did to 136 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: Murray Murray was in a rhythm. He was playing like 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: he was he was he was Miles Davis with the 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: motherfucking trump, you know what I mean, And and put 139 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: that heat on his ass and made him think he 140 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: was counting his steps instead of just playing and getting 141 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: the feeling. 142 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: It was beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I think there was. 143 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: One other really relatable moment that you that you mentioned, 144 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: like he you saw him talking shit to that old 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 4: old man sitting courtside after he hit the three. He's 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 4: a it's an old man who was like ah, and 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: he's looking like where are you at? Where are you at? 148 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: And then he threw he threw a little something else. 149 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: I can't say. At the end of it. 150 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: Two he called it in work, But what what what 151 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: he mixed it in with? Did he hit him with 152 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: the nigga? Because don't tell me that right here where. 153 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: You it was just straight it was he hit him 154 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: with it. Neat no ice. 155 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: That's enough, that's enough, that's enough, that's enough. I mind 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: mad at it, you know what I mean. 157 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: It's I could not agree with you more though, And 158 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 4: I feel like he he made me rute. Shay Serano 159 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: treated this, but he was spot on. He made me 160 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: root for Cat and Rudy Gobert. B I was rooted like, not. 161 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: Mad at Cat, but the Rudy park We we we 162 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: locked me yes, go ahead. 163 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I catch not my guy, but Rudy. 164 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: I mean I was yelling at myself about Rudy Gobert 165 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: in the fourth midway through the fourth quarter, I was like, 166 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: who was talking ship on Rudy Gobert, Like like so 167 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: you jumping brother. But I do think there's something to 168 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: his leadership, Like we talked about that, he's elevated everyone 169 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: around him to where you see Kat Kat that put 170 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: back hammer dunk and he didn't even react. He just 171 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: ran back to play defense. 172 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: Bro business as usual. But we just playing basketball, baby. 173 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: This is the second time in franchise history they're going 174 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: to the Western Conference Finals, and he has all these 175 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: dudes acting this is Mike Conley's first game seven win ever. 176 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: He has all these dudes acting like of course we've 177 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 4: been here, of course we're gonna beat the defending champs 178 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: in game seven. 179 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: Them niggas was crying from winning the playing game. 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: Wasn't this that team, Like this is the same players 181 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: that were crying, like like celebrating, hugging each other on 182 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: the scorer's table, like you know, look at you know 183 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like and and and these dudes are 184 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: going to the oh they have much real, real chance 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: and winning a chip and has changed his franchise is 186 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: completely with his energy in his mindset, you feel me, 187 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: Like and to the fact that somebody that that wields 188 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: this power, you know what I mean, is a relatable, 189 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: regular human is mind blowing. 190 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: When we're talking about his. 191 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Height, they said he was six three, I'm like, I 192 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: would have swore to God a nigga was at least 193 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: sixty six right with a bad way more. 194 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: Money than I had on it. 195 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Like like as the dude the ore he comes with 196 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: the way he plays, it's just so impressible. 197 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: Yo. 198 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: We gotta give it to Rudy Gobert four for four 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: from a free throw line in the big minutes when 200 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: they could have made a run getting fouled four for four, 201 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: had that fucking. 202 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: Fade away, I'm like, Rudy, who is that? Go bear? 203 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: Is that the same nigga? You know what I'm saying? 204 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: Like insane nas Reed came in after Cat got hurt. 205 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: Kat was the one getting buckets, like Cat was the 206 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: one playing well, kind of keeping them minute while you 207 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, where everybody else was struggling. 208 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. 209 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: And like he gets goes out, Nas comes in off 210 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: the bench, plays great defense on Joker, you feel me. 211 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: And then it's great on the offensive end as well. 212 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: I mean it's like that this team is so exciting. 213 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: When hit that three pointed to put them up ten, 214 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: I felt I was gonna levitate, Like I told you, 215 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: I would have electriate to a nigga if out to 216 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: touch somebody brou. 217 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 3: I'm talking about bro skin On like like just. 218 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: They bringing a love back, Bro, they bringing They bringing 219 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: the fun back to basketball in Minnesota. 220 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: Insane in Minnesota. 221 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: In Minnesota, this like wow. 222 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: And we but but but we said to you right 223 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: when we hopped on, this felt like I love the 224 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: new era of basketball. I love the run, But this 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 4: to me felt like real, Like that's what we said. 226 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: This felt like a real fucking basketball game. These dudes 227 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 4: were beating each other up, fucking ant Is snatching the 228 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 4: ball off Jamal Murray and they're running the other way 229 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: and Duncan. This is real fucking hoops God dam. This 230 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 4: is not just what's the analytics how much space can 231 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 4: we get and what's the analytics of what how efficiently 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: you can shoot the three? This was fucking who. This 233 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: was meeting each other up at like three dudes blocking 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: Yo Kic and running down the other. 235 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: Court and dunking. 236 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: Bro, when Nigga's talking about dog shit, that's what we're 237 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: talking about. 238 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: That was some doghouse ass ship. 239 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: That was you know what I'm saying, like and at 240 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: the top of the key, like Yo, ma sit ain't 241 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: going well, But how I can't affect the game locking down, 242 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: standing the nigga up. 243 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: Bro. 244 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: He had twenty four in the first hit half. None 245 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: of that, Bro, I think he had seven and the 246 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: second half you feel me like, couldn't get ship going 247 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: like it was? 248 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 7: And it was that from the best player and it 249 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 7: was and it was it was ant Who And by 250 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 7: the way, Who already said on the on the postgame 251 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 7: interview they asked him at the end and you talk 252 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 7: about how he's different from the. 253 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: Usual media trading. If you ask any of the legends 254 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: in the NBA right now, bron kd Steph, what do 255 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: you think about your Western Conference final matchup? What are 256 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: they gonna say. 257 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 2: They're a great team, tough team. 258 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: This is what Ant said, should be fun Kyrie's my matchup, 259 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: so we'll see what we can do. 260 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 3: Listen, he wan, Hey, I'm gonna cry, Mike, I'm gonna cry. 261 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: It's back. You know what I'm saying. 262 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Like, we get the skills, the skills, We've always had 263 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: the skills, but the spirit, nigga. 264 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 265 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: When this guy is like, I want that Nick, I 266 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: want them. I want the motherfucking Alchemists with the basketball. 267 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: I want the Wizard with the basketball. I want to really, 268 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: I want to really, you know, I want to really 269 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: show what time it is. 270 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: I love this, bro. I am so excited about it. Bro, 271 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. 272 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: I never thought i'd be this excited about basketball that 273 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: didn't involve the gods. 274 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I'm not saying joke. 275 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: It's not a god, you know what I mean. But 276 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: like that didn't involve like the like the Brons and 277 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: the Katies. 278 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: I didn't think. I thought I was gonna just be 279 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: watching on some bro. I'm locked the fuck in. I 280 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: need this more. 281 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: Please, Yeah, I think, but you hit it exactly because 282 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: we have the dudes we looked up to growing up. 283 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: We had you know, Michael Jordan, we had the legends. 284 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: Of the nineties. 285 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 4: Then we have the dudes that who are us? Who 286 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: are our age right? Well, like we could We're not 287 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: bron or Katie or Steph, but those dudes are all 288 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: within a couple of years of our age range or whatever, 289 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: and that all of a sudden they start aging up. 290 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: We were talking about it all season, like all they 291 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: were doing all year was talking about the Lakers the 292 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: Warriors on like ESPN, and shit, it's like these teams 293 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 4: are in ninth and tenth place, bro, this is all 294 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: we have left media wisees Roa. It kind of felt 295 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: like the party was ending. 296 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, thirsty. It felt thirsty. 297 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: It's like, you know what I'm saying, like, and then 298 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: we get this dude coming in and like, the Nuggets 299 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: are a great team and I'm not gonna like they're 300 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: a small market all that. I don't give a fuck. 301 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: That's good basketball. Yeah, they're a fund see to watch. 302 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: I like Joker, He's a great fucking basketball player. The 303 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: things he does is special. But like coming in and 304 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: on this big stage. This young dude who we thought 305 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: we thought this was three years out at minimum, right, 306 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: you feel me, Like, you know what I mean, This 307 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: thick is twenty two leading eighteen, Like, and I didn't realize. 308 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: This because he's so young. It's like somebody I was like, 309 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: I was like, these guys are young. 310 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: And they have it, they were saying without put at 311 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: one of the older teams in the NBA, right, and 312 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: injects a level of energy into teams and confidence a confidence, bro. 313 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: Like it's just ends. Uh, It's it's crazy what we're watching. 314 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: It's hard for me to truly understand. But like for 315 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: a dude who is Damnar twenty years younger than me, 316 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: to have me this connected to the game, I mean, 317 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: he's just he's just special. He is special, special, special, 318 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: and and you know, and and hats off to the Nuggets, 319 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: great basketball team. They fall hard. Bro, I thought they 320 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: was gonna cook these boys. How they saw it off? Yeah, 321 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: but that that Timberwolves defense they. 322 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: When is you seen like everybody can fucking lock up. 323 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: The defensive player of the Year is a dude that 324 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: was we see to be food more than other players. 325 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: Was just crazy, right, you know what I mean? 326 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: But he played really well on the fourth he played, 327 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: he played physical, period and he played. Yeah. Absolutely, But 328 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: at the real you got the defending champs at home 329 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: and place, a place they have a pretty historically strong 330 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: home court advantage. You held them to thirty seven points 331 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: in the second half, and bro half, you you held 332 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: you had. This is a stat everywhere everyone should be 333 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: talking about tomorrow. Yo Kitchen Murray combined for sixty nine 334 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: of the ninety points that the Nuggets scored tonight because 335 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: of what you just said, everyone's getting locked up. They're 336 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: not just focused on we got to get the ball 337 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: out of his hands. It's he's locked up too. Then 338 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: locked up too and for twelve Yeah, one of six. 339 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: Joker, what the good one that Nigga locked up? 340 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: Yo kit six of twenty two from three tonight. They 341 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: did score thirty four and thirty five points, but six 342 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: to twenty two from three. 343 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: When it mattered, they had to heat on them. 344 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: And the thing about playing that type of defense, it's 345 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: I think the reason like they have halves like that, 346 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: it is we saw it with the Lakers. We talked 347 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: about how the Lakers they started off with a defense. 348 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: It's hard to play basketball that way we're like. 349 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: The defense is what gets you going. 350 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: Where you're standing up guys like the Nuggets, like where 351 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: they have their deep offensive right and you are on 352 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: locked in on everybody. 353 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: It's hard to play basketball like that. 354 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: But when they decide to lock in, Bro, that is 355 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: one of the like I've never like one through six, 356 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: just solid, solid, solid, elite defensive defenders. 357 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: It's just, Bro, It's it's special. It's special. But I 358 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: just I'm happy to be here, my nigga. That's where 359 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm at with it. Just happy to be here, Bro, 360 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm happy to be able to watch this. 361 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: Bro, I think we saw the beginning of something special, 362 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: and it feels like just the beginning, you know what 363 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: I mean. 364 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with that more. I also think you 365 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: talk about a defensive team. The part that's craziest to 366 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: me was they were down. I want to make sure 367 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: I have the numbers exactly right. 368 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: Fifteen It was fifty three one point fifty three to 369 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: thirty eight. 370 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: Now you tell me another sport where you think a 371 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: defense first team has a shot in that scenario. If football, 372 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: you're a defense, if you're a defense first team, you're down. Sorry, 373 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 4: that's not that was not the way the game plan 374 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 4: worked for you, Right, they walk their ass down, they're 375 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: down fifteen, to have faith in their defense to just 376 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: chip away at it, chip away at it, chip away 377 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 4: to get down by one going into the fourth quarter. 378 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, John, when I really felt 379 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 4: like I knew we were gonna have a special one 380 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: was Go Bear hits that hits that first bucket, that 381 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: accident almost accidental. 382 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: Go ahead, buse talking. That's that foreshadow. 383 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: And we talked about that's that fore shadow we talked about, 384 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: brom go. 385 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 6: The chat also wants you to apologize to Go Bear 386 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 6: right now, they're begging for it. 387 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: All right. I am not going to apologize to Go Bear. 388 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: Here's the here's the lane I'm gonna split. I'm not 389 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: gonna apologize to him, but I am gonna say that 390 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: I was wrong. How about that? Does that work? 391 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: This is the opposite of who you are, though, Like 392 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: I know, sorry, let that go. 393 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. 394 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: Okay, put the put that up, put the pole up 395 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 4: on that. If they'll accept that or not. 396 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 5: Okay, I'll say this. 397 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: The thing that I find fascinating about Rudy Gobert and 398 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: today he plays so well in the fourth quarter that 399 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 4: I'll move him from infuriating to fascinating in the way 400 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: that my brain is that he's always and he's always 401 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 4: playing it in extreme There's not a lot of plays 402 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: that he's involved in defensively or offensively that are boring 403 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: normal plays. There's not a lot of pass into Rudigo Beert, 404 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: pass out to someone who misses a three pointer. It's 405 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: if they give him the ball, something fucking weird in 406 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: one direction or another is happening. And it's the same 407 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: thing when he gets involved defensively. It's not a lot 408 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: of he's hedging on a pick and roll and they 409 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 4: kick out. It's guys feel compelled to attack him. And 410 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: then sometimes something really cool happens. And sometimes Jokich, I 411 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: mean two minutes before he started the fourth quarter, that 412 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: was unbelievable. Jokich hit that man and his body disintegrated. 413 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: He just stopped existing on the mortal plane for thirty 414 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 4: full seconds before he picked himself up off the floor. 415 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: So like he is both of those players, and that's 416 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 4: what makes him fat fat. Like I said, he's fascinating 417 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 4: to me at this point because he did he and 418 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: I did not think based on what we've seen from him, 419 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 4: even in the playoffs. I didn't think he had it 420 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 4: in him to nut up the way he did in 421 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. But he I'm giving him all the 422 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: credit for the fourth quarter. He turned his shit around. 423 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: He played an unbelievable fourth quarter. I'm not gonna apologize 424 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: for that. Man, I don't have that in my spirit. 425 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: But he prayed to the fucking frog or the Eiffel 426 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: Tower or whatever he needed to do before that fourth quarter, 427 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 4: and he went out and played twelve unbelievable minutes of 428 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: basketball or eight until he foiled out whatever it was. 429 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: I mean, like the philosophy change, like we said, when 430 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: he's off, when he's off, joker, it's it's a much 431 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 2: better situation, you know what I mean. But like on 432 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: the offensive end, like I said, those free how many 433 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: was he seven? 434 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: Three? How many seven? Three bigs? 435 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: Or you know, are you confident in touched up, clutched 436 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: up bro and buzer beater? You know the little you know, 437 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: the little the shot clock, you know what I'm saying. Like, 438 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa if we had some And it's the thing, 439 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at Gobert if he just stays out 440 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: the way, and I think he knew when to get 441 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: involved in the state of funk out the way, don't 442 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: clog the lane up. N he knew how to figure 443 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: that out, you know what I'm saying. Hello, the biggest 444 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: quarter of maybe the Timberwolves potential his I mean, one 445 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: of the biggest quarters in the history of the of 446 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: the franchise, and he played great. Can't take it away 447 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: from him. 448 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: Well, and I we gotta give we got to talk 449 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 4: a little bit about nas Reed as well. I mean, 450 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 4: nas Reed coming out a sixth Man of the Year 451 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: for a reason, because, like you said, they put him 452 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: on your kitch. You could see your kitch almost like 453 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 4: like you know when you're playing basketball and the dude 454 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: you don't want to be guarding you as on you. You 455 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, That's what he was. 456 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Like he tightened up for sure, for sure, and like 457 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: the dude, like we talked about this littlely before, we're 458 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: like in free agency, nobody was really stressing nods Like 459 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: he wasn't getting thirty. 460 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: What's up, Claire, what's up? Claire fair favorite, what's up? Man? 461 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: How you feeling? 462 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 8: I don't even First of all, that game was incredible 463 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 8: but I feel like I've been both right and wrong 464 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 8: like seven different times in the past week. 465 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 9: So I don't even know. 466 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 4: I can't your opinion of your opinion of Rudy Gobert 467 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: in this moment is what we were just talking about. 468 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 8: Okay, So that that I feel good about. That I 469 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 8: feel good about I feel solid. I feel like I 470 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 8: was right generally speaking. He did get out of his 471 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 8: own way in the second half. 472 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: Which is literally what John just said. 473 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 8: Because we're simpatigo, you feel me locked in. But yeah, 474 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 8: he got out of his own way in the second half. 475 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 8: But I still do feel pretty like I don't feel 476 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 8: like we were wrong about him overall, because that her 477 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 8: first half performance is the reason, in my opinion, they 478 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 8: were down. They had to claw out of that deficit. 479 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 8: But maybe they work well when they're clawing out of 480 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 8: a deficit. Like I don't even know what to believe anymore. 481 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 8: Is that why they won the game? Because they got 482 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 8: galvanized at halftime from the huge deficit? 483 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 9: Like what is up? What is down? 484 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: I think something that because we were just about to 485 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: sort of finish talking about Anthony Edwards, just something I 486 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 4: want to say that I thought was so impressive was 487 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: you know, they surprised him with the like it was 488 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: sort of I felt like it was a two full 489 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 4: defensive strategy. They're going to blitz and double Aunt every 490 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: time he touches the ball, and then they're gonna let 491 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: Rudy post up on someone that it looks like it's 492 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: easy for him to post up on because they trust 493 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 4: that he's not going to do something good with the ball. Yeah, 494 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: and it felt like it took Aunt a full half 495 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: to kind of adjust to, Okay, I need to see 496 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: the game different. I need to be positioned different, I 497 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: need to run the offense differently. And you can see 498 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 4: that's not a great part of his game yet when 499 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: he was kicking out like he's maybe making the right read, 500 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 4: but people are catching that ball at their shoes or 501 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 4: they're catching it way above their head. They're not It's 502 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: not like bron passing out of a double where. 503 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: It's like a shooting didn't right in their pocket right. 504 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 4: But he figured it out within the game seven. It 505 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: wasn't a lesson learned. Next year he comes back there, 506 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: and that to me was what was so impressive. It's 507 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 4: game seven on the road and he was able to 508 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: make that adjustment and figure that out within the game 509 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 4: to still do enough. 510 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: To lead his team to a victory. 511 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: That's the ship. To do that at twenty two against 512 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 4: the defending Nationals, like the defending champ that's crazy to me. 513 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was so impressive to watch him sort of 514 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 8: figure that out in real time because, like you said, 515 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 8: he was struggling so much with that double team at first, 516 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 8: and also to have the poise to be like, even 517 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 8: if I don't have it, we're in it, and to 518 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 8: be telling his teammates that on the bench. It kind 519 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 8: of just speaks to what we were talking about last time, 520 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 8: about that maturity and yeah, just his leadership it was. 521 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 8: It was really incredible. Also, like shout out to Carl 522 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 8: Anthony Twe have been extremely critical of him, uh and 523 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 8: I think he just deserved all the criticism that he's 524 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 8: been given. He makes, you know, more boneheaded plays sometimes 525 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 8: it feels like than like anybody in the league. But 526 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 8: he was incredible tonight and he needs all the praise 527 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 8: in the world because they absolutely do not win that 528 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 8: game without him, like, not even close. Obviously it was 529 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 8: an entire team effort, but I think he was he 530 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 8: was the difference maker. Tonight and he's the reason they're 531 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 8: in the conference finals, So shout out to him for sure. 532 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: I think one thing too, is on the offense when 533 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 2: when can't get going, they kind of rush things. Like 534 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: we talked about how you know, like if he passes 535 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: it off and the ball comes back to him, that 536 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: when he ball comes back, the double team is in 537 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: his tough you know what I mean, So just get 538 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: the ball back to him. Also, one thing, he'll pass 539 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: off and he won't move. It'll be like a couple 540 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: passes and they'll shoot it. They don't move the ball. 541 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: They started slowing down a little bit and getting the 542 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: shots they wanted. They weren't just taking what was accepted, 543 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. They were more patient as 544 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: a whole on the offensive end, which helped. But also 545 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: those you know, the d just ratcheting it up and 546 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: them getting those you know, you know, runaway dunks, yeah, 547 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, didn't help out. 548 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: I felt like they. 549 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: All in the biggest moment calmed down. Hit him with 550 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: the wolves son, like, bro, let's just play ball. How 551 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: we play ball, And it seemed like everybody calmed down. 552 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: It seemed like it was the opposite on the people 553 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: who had already been there in the Nuggets. It's like 554 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: they were pressing, pressing, pressing, pressing, And that's what's crazy too. 555 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: And we know we talked about like they've been here 556 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: before and it looked the opposite, which is interesting, but man, 557 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: it really did. 558 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 8: That was what was so interesting. Especially, I feel like 559 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 8: I knew the Wolves were gonna win. I sound like 560 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 8: Lebron I knew three years ago, you know. 561 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 9: What I feel like. 562 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 8: I feel like in the third in the third quarter, 563 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 8: in the third quarter is when it was really like, oh, 564 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 8: the Wolves are gonna win this game, because Jokic had 565 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 8: that sort of panic rushed look to him like he 566 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 8: did in games one and two, and we hadn't seen 567 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 8: that kind of rushed like tilted off his axis version 568 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 8: of Yokic since those games. I felt like even in 569 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 8: the even in Game six, where you know the Wolves 570 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 8: were blowing them out of the water, Yokic kind of 571 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 8: he seemed like he for the most partly kept his composure. 572 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 8: And this version of Jokic was the version from game two. 573 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 8: In game one, I thought, where he kind of just 574 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 8: looked like he got rushed and he got rushed out 575 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 8: of his normal game. 576 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 9: And when Yokic. 577 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 8: Loses his composure. It's like the Nuggets go as he goes. 578 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 8: So the second he loses his composure, I don't really 579 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 8: feel like there's anyone on that team who can like 580 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 8: study the ship, like he's kind of the guy that 581 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 8: does it. 582 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like he looked tired too. 583 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: He looked really tired, which I talked about, Yeah, we 584 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: talked about like before. Yeah, we talked about four where 585 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: he he'll dropped a thirty he dropped thirty six and 586 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: twenty and like he's not even breathing deep, like he's 587 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: like he just played an extra quarter it seems like sometimes. 588 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: And he looked tired, and I think that defense was 589 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: that had real tire. But yeah, that Yeah, he did 590 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: look rushed. And there was a moment in that third 591 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: quarter when that they the wolves are still down, and 592 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: you saw a look on Anthony Edward's face, Well not 593 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: this one. 594 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: I was like they might do it where it. 595 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: Didn't look like whol guy in he looked like you. 596 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember Mike when he was 597 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: and he looked like it's time to fucking go, Like 598 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: it was a little bit of like angst, like we 599 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: got it, like it's time to fucking go. 600 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: And it's like I think, like Conley hit a corner 601 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 4: three when he was on the bench and they cut 602 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: to him as he was saying, we're back in it, 603 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 4: and like he had this look in his eyes. 604 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: It was it was it was like it's this is 605 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 3: the time. You know what I mean? 606 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 4: Right now? 607 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: Now you know what I mean? 608 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: And so that's when I was like, oh, like did 609 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: he's he's even when it was getting cooked in certain games, 610 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: he looked, hella, chill, like we'll be aye. At this point, 611 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: it was like, yo, we need to we need to 612 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: do this now. We don't do it now. It's just 613 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: it's interesting to see him have that energy and they'd 614 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: go out there to play the way he did after 615 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: having that bad you know first happened you know you 616 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: two and a half quarters or whatever. 617 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: But anyway, and speaking. 618 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 8: Of Mike Conley, I don't know if you guys touched 619 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 8: on him already, but like he was so determined, like 620 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 8: it was so clear, like he was to me you 621 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 8: know that he's he's that sort of missing piece for 622 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 8: that team that took them from like the ceiling that 623 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 8: they had from Ant's potential last year. To now when 624 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 8: they made that trade for him. Ever since that trade, 625 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 8: I feel like that's when they've had that sort of 626 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 8: championship ceiling because he is that steadying force right like 627 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 8: that we were talking about that Yokic isn't like when 628 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 8: Yokic isn't for the Nuggets, they don't have one like 629 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 8: he is that for the Wolves. And he seemed so 630 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 8: incredibly determined in that second half, and it was like 631 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 8: so inspiring to see, Like there was that one moment 632 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 8: where he almost created the turnover and then he dove 633 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 8: on the ground for that loose ball and there were 634 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 8: two Nuggets trying to wrestle him for the loose ball, 635 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 8: and he just like his entire body was just like 636 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 8: wrapped around the ball and he was just like shaking 637 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 8: his head no, And it was just like that grit 638 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 8: and that determination, Like who could you possibly be happier 639 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 8: for than Mike Conley in this moment, Like nobody deserves 640 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 8: this more. He's the most universally beloved NBA player I've 641 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 8: ever seen, Like I've never heard in all my years 642 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 8: of working in the league a bad word about him, 643 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 8: and it's just so cool to see him have this 644 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 8: moment you're right. 645 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: Everybody I know that knows him, everybody I know that 646 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: knows him personally too, talks about how kind he. 647 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: Is when they met him. 648 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, side of basketball on the golf course 649 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: type shit. 650 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He's a guy. 651 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: You had a bad ball, He's like it opened was 652 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: up down there, even if it doesn't, Like he's just 653 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: very positive, you know what I mean. 654 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can tell, like you know, that's how he. 655 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: Plays basketball as well, like it opens up down there, 656 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: like he's just hoping you haven't lost your. 657 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: Ball, like you'll be all right, you know what I mean. 658 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: But he has that set energy for sure. 659 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: I love the Johnny Times insight. 660 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: And shows up at some point, at some point. 661 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 9: It's incredible. 662 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: I have my first unreleased dragonfly Jones tweet. So Claire 663 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: tweeted the video that I played for John of Aunt 664 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: telling Chuck bring you Ass. Tyler said, whenever I'm talking 665 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: to somebody about how we should kick it and they 666 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: tell me bring you ass, I already know they're my 667 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: type of people. 668 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 8: Fact, dude, He's just one amazing quote after another, like 669 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 8: it's a bottomless well, Like I just, oh my god. 670 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 9: I love aunt so much. 671 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 8: I love that kid more every single day, And like 672 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 8: you just knew that post game was gonna be amazing, 673 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 8: Like you just like it's like, oh, Anthony Edwards our 674 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 8: second postgame and it's like, cool, what quote that's going 675 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 8: to be etched into the history books of the NBA? 676 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 8: Are we going to get in this one? Because like 677 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 8: there's just a different one every time. 678 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: Well, and he understands the promotional aspect of it, which like, yeah, 679 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: we've talked about the pluses and minuses on this show 680 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: of how like a lot of these guys correctly see 681 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: themselves as like Fortune five hundred companies that have a 682 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: partnership with the NBA, right, and An understands the like, no, 683 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: we got to like really sell this. And so for 684 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: him when they said what are your first thoughts on 685 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: the MAVs to say I'm guarding Kyrie, It's like, who's 686 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: not immediately like Okay, what days of the week are 687 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: that series going to? Be? Honest? 688 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: Need needs good. 689 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: But I think his relatability, him being normal is his superpower. 690 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: Like you know, he's obviously great basketball player. That's he 691 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: has to play a basketball people to care obviously, right, Yeah, 692 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: But like him being relatable, like his his relatability is 693 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: his superpower. Like he responds like normal people would respond, 694 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: like like he's not a fortune five hundred company in 695 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 2: his head. You know what I'm saying, He's not a brand. 696 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: He's just ant. He's being himself. And I love that, 697 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: Like like you bring your ass is probably what he 698 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: says when he's at home with his homies, you know 699 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: what I mean. I told him, motherfucking see you Game seven. 700 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: That's what he probably say we's on the phone with 701 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 2: his uncle or his cousins. 702 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I love that about it. 703 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: I just truly truly loved that about it. He's a special special. 704 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 8: He's so unapologetically himself like it is. It's it's really 705 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 8: beautiful to see. 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So Josh, what are your 744 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: thoughts on on Game seven and what felt like a 745 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: like once in a lifetime missed opportunity for the Knicks 746 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 4: win Game seven at home Eastern Conference Finals with the Celtics, 747 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: like everything you have kind of been wanting to get 748 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 4: back to. 749 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 6: So what was your takeaway from the game From I 750 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 6: as a Nick fan, It's just been kind of frustrating 751 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 6: because you lose Julius going into the playoffs, and then 752 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 6: you don't have Mitch to start the series because he 753 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 6: gets hurt, well he gets hurt last playoff series and 754 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 6: Og goes down, and it got to the point where 755 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 6: it was just kind of like the writing was on 756 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: the wall where it's like, all right, this is just 757 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 6: not our year. 758 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 5: It's just how was it going to end? 759 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 6: And I think the most frustrating thing about everything is, 760 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 6: I said this before last episode. I think the Pacers 761 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 6: like horror a playoff team. I think they suck. Like 762 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 6: there's no way they should be in the Eastern Conference Finals. 763 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 6: They don't deserve to be the Eastern Conference Finals. They 764 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 6: played a Bucks team without Giannis. Dean was hurt, Chris 765 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 6: Middleton was practically playing on one leg, and then you 766 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 6: get a Knicks team that's basically missing half of the rotation. 767 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 5: So as a Nick fan, it just kind of hurts 768 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 5: to lose to a team like that. 769 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 6: But at the same time, there's a lot of optimism, 770 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 6: you know, I'm not taking it too hard. I think 771 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 6: the Knicks now have like a two to four window 772 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 6: where you can literally say, hey, this team can go 773 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 6: to the finals and maybe win one, you know, given 774 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 6: the circumstances that they you know, fall correctly the way 775 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 6: that they can. So, I mean, it's it's bittersqueeen because 776 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 6: it was one of my most favorite Nick teams of 777 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 6: all time. It was a fun team to root for. Yeah, 778 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 6: but you know it was over. I think the Riotings 779 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 6: were on the wall like once og went down, like 780 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 6: that was it. It was just like, I don't know, 781 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 6: there's just no way. 782 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 4: Do you have concerns over a former Bulls fan who 783 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 4: tweeted the following Kibbs era one tis This is from 784 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 4: uh excuse me, this is from Flows and Dealini Tibbs 785 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: Era one. Tibbs changes the culture. Players embrace hard work. Two, 786 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 4: players perform and beyond expectations. Three, A star is born 787 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: or brought over. Four expectations form. Five A deep playoff 788 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: run is expected. Six freak injuries. Seven fans defenitives hard. 789 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: Eight players aren't the same next year. Nine fans turn 790 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 4: on Tibbs. Ten he's fired. These are the ten the 791 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: ten Commandments, the commandment eight. 792 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 6: Then I'm panicking yet because they're still next year, and 793 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 6: if they start they're not playing the same, then maybe listen. 794 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: I think there's legit concern. 795 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 6: I think there are a lot of nick fans on 796 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 6: Twitter especially who are very sensitive about this. Like if 797 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 6: you even like mentioned that this could be a problem, 798 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 6: they'll flip on you and they'll curse you out. And 799 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 6: how dare you you know, you don't say, yeah, fans 800 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 6: are so even are you talking about we're so logical, 801 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 6: and we're so intemperaries, we're enjoy to be around. But 802 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 6: I do think it is a fair question. It's not 803 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 6: one that I'm asking right now. Julius's injury was kind 804 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 6: of a freak injury with Amy Hadkas So to me, 805 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't. I don't want to believe 806 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 6: that's true. 807 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean. 808 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 6: There's so many good things happening right now that I 809 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 6: don't even want to believe that that's true. I don't 810 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 6: want to believe that next year around. 811 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: This John Fields conversation. 812 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean. 813 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 4: On John's face. 814 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 3: Now, I'm looking at the injuries, you know what I mean, 815 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: Like a hamstring injury that happens from over exertion, you 816 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 817 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 8: Like you know what I mean, like forty eight minutes 818 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 8: a game, Yeah, that will do it. 819 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: That will do it. It's something like, yeah, this is 820 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: a great team. Their fun at hell to watch, and 821 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 2: they look it seems like they funk with TIBs heavily, 822 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But like that's the exactly exactly. 823 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: But it's like like you just can't run players into 824 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: the ground and expect them to play deep into the 825 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: playoffs like that, it is just very hard and the 826 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: players he's run into the ground are guards. 827 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 6: But you know what I'm saying, to be fair, the 828 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 6: tis the reason why he rand those players in the 829 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 6: ground was he had me with the choice. I mean, 830 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 6: like I said, Julius was out, which was out for 831 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 6: a long time in a lot of injuries. 832 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 8: And I slightly disagree with that though, because I think 833 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 8: it's been revealed that so one of TIBs, like hallmark 834 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 8: characteristics as a coach, is that he only trusts a 835 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 8: handful of players, which is understandable, but like we saw 836 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 8: at right, he's. 837 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 9: Mostly correct about. 838 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 8: But we saw, for example, those Alec Burks minutes in 839 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 8: the games where he had to start playing, and it's like, oh, 840 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 8: this is like a legitimate rotation player. He had twenty 841 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 8: six points to night in a close out game, Like 842 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 8: he could have been taking some of those minutes earlier 843 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 8: in this playoff run or earlier towards the end of 844 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 8: the season, and maybe you save yourself a Josh harda 845 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 8: abdominal injury, you know. So like that's the thing with 846 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 8: TIBs is I do kind of agree with Don and 847 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 8: that I think that tips teams oftentimes do have ceilings 848 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 8: as far as how far they can go because there's 849 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 8: just only so many minutes you can put on your body. 850 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 8: And I think it is that catch twenty two of 851 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 8: like he is one hundred percent of the person who's 852 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 8: going to get you across that threshold into being like 853 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 8: a capable, really good playoff team, but he's also maybe 854 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 8: not the person that can get you to that next 855 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 8: level of being like a championship contender in the sense 856 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 8: of like this team, to me should have come out 857 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 8: of the East if everybody was healthy, like I trust 858 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 8: them over the Celtics seven days a week, but they 859 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 8: didn't make it there because of the injuries. And so 860 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 8: that's that's the kind of devil's bargain with TIBs is 861 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 8: like can you ever stay healthy enough with a Tom 862 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 8: Thibodeaux coach team to even get that far? 863 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: And I think sometimes it's not necessary, like obviously, and 864 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 4: I'll just point it out there's injuries on every team, 865 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 4: like it does happen, and so it just is the 866 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: fact that because it's his reputation, you're going to feel 867 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: more causality with those injuries. Yea, even though there's no 868 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 4: real way to say, a hamstring strain. You know, one 869 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 4: of my hamstring strains is just because I'm old and fat, 870 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 4: not because I'm over using it. Like you just don't 871 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: know what's happening with that muscle group, right, But yeah, 872 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: I mean we've talked about the different types of NBA coach. 873 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm a forty nine Ers fan and we had Jim 874 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 4: Harbaugh as our coach. I feel like Jim Harbor and 875 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 4: TIBs are very similar. Those dudes are not going to 876 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 4: be in one place for fifteen years. But like you, 877 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 4: they ramp up energy, they bring guys to a new threshold, 878 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 4: and then eventually that burns you out to some extent, 879 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 4: whether that's sort of at the organization or that core 880 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 4: group of players or whatever. And I feel like he's 881 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 4: I've been a huge fan of every team he's ever 882 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 4: coached because I love the way that they play. But 883 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 4: I do feel like there is there does come a 884 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 4: ceiling to it, and I hope that the Knicks haven't 885 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: hit it because I really love this next team. Yeah yeah, 886 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: not as much as Clear and Josh obviously, but but 887 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: but I hope it's not the end for him. It 888 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 4: was so much fun seeing the Garden going crazy. I'm 889 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say something nice about the Pacers in a second. 890 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 4: But but on the Knicks, I'm heartbroken because the Boston 891 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: New York Eastern Conference Final was just a like a 892 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: oh it was a. 893 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: Right, right. 894 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: I think apart is not in a it's I think 895 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 2: it's an anomaly, but I don't think it's a coincidence 896 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: that act coach team. 897 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that's where I met with it, where 898 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 3: like we don't see teams. 899 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 2: I think the last time we saw a team fall 900 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: apart like this in the series was probably the Warriors, 901 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: you know what I. 902 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: Mean, just physically falling like yeah, yeah, it was just 903 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 4: like it felt like it felt like almost like a 904 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: like Curber enthusiasm. 905 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: Exactly like this is like yeah, like you know, turn 906 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 2: the injuries off on the game, bro, Like you know 907 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But it doesn't feel coincidental being you 908 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 2: know how you know tips history. 909 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a mixture folks like Bowie got hurt 910 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 6: because he got fell on, you know, in the backboard, 911 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 6: and then tenty six ers game and Julius degree was 912 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 6: had nothing to do with fatigue. But I do think 913 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 6: you can make the argument with Josh's injury, and you 914 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 6: can make the argument OG's injury that it might have 915 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 6: been because they're running out there for forty five minutes 916 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 6: a game. 917 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 4: So I'm not going to mess with your thought process 918 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 4: because you're like, like you said, you fall in love 919 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 4: with the team because of that identity. It's on the team, 920 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 4: So like, I can't mess I'm not going to mess 921 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 4: with you. As a fan, I thought way crazy things 922 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: than the things you're thinking. 923 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 5: Let me be happy. 924 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 8: And it was so funny too, this this next team, 925 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 8: this next team is so tenacious and so resilient that, 926 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 8: like so, I was at a Knicks bar, an incredible 927 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 8: Knicks bar in Silver Lake where it was like packed 928 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 8: to the gills, standing room only watching this game with 929 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 8: Knicks fans. And it wasn't until Jalen Brnson broke his 930 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 8: literal hand that the hope was actually lost, because it 931 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 8: was like it didn't matter that Ogi only played four minutes, 932 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 8: and it didn't matter that Josh was playing through in 933 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 8: an abdominal strain, like Mitch is gone, Julius is gone, 934 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 8: like they're dropping like flies. But the fan base always 935 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 8: kept hope just because they were so incredibly resilient. So 936 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 8: I do feel like if they had, you know, just 937 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 8: like a couple more players that tips could trust, a 938 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 8: couple more rotational players that you could trust next year, 939 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 8: that I really do think they can be right back here. 940 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 8: I don't have a ton of faith in anybody in 941 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 8: the East really, so I don't see any reason why 942 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 8: they can't make their way back. I'm team find a 943 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 8: way to get mckchil bridges if possible. 944 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 5: I love they're doing it. The Infinity Stones are coming together. 945 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 4: I'm telling you Stone, I do think and obviously you 946 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 4: know Chicago is not like a small market team or something, 947 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 4: but I do think there's something to the magic of 948 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 4: the Garden. I don't know if the Knicks brand has that, 949 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 4: but playing in New York, playing in front of those fans, 950 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 4: there is something that hopefully, even though he does have 951 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 4: the reputation we've discussed within the league, hopefully that is 952 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 4: enough of an attractive that it sort of offsets that 953 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 4: because I do think who would not want to go 954 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 4: be a part of I mean, you saw what those 955 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: fans were doing for a for an Eastern Conference semi final. Yeah, Like, 956 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 4: who would not want to be a part of getting 957 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 4: that team over the hum you know, I don't know, 958 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 4: we'll see. I'm gonna quival a little bit with what 959 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 4: Josh said about the Pacers not being an Eastern Conference 960 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: Finals team in the following regard, there's been some historic 961 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 4: things about this team when it comes to pace. I 962 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 4: think we've been critical, and I stand by the criticism 963 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 4: because we're Anthony Edwards type people, as we discussed of 964 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 4: Tyrese Haliburton for being too passive or for his game 965 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: being too facilitation. First however, this is what the Pacers 966 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 4: did today, and this is the case for them as 967 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 4: a team that could beat the Celtics or that's worth 968 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 4: watching in the Eastern Conference Finals. All five starters between 969 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 4: seventeen and twenty six points. The team as a whole 970 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 4: shot sixty seven point one percent from the field, which 971 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 4: I believe is the highest field goal percentage by any 972 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 4: team in NBA playoff history, not just Game sevens, and 973 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 4: they do all that at pace. One hundred and thirty 974 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 4: points for them is not an unrepeatable thing. That is 975 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 4: just the way that their team is built to go, 976 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 4: even in the playoffs. So I'm they don't have the 977 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 4: compelling storyline of the other three teams that are in 978 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: the conference finals. But I do think they maybe, you know, 979 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 4: we talk about the likability of the thunder of the Knicks, 980 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 4: they might be the team that has the team dynamic 981 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 4: that's sort of the most appealing in that regard. You 982 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 4: guys buy or sell that. I buy that. 983 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 6: Actually, I don't hate this Pacers team. Just for the record, Actually, 984 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 6: let me call this back a little bit. Yeah, I 985 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 6: know I sound very salty right now. That's because my 986 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 6: team just lost. 987 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 3: I'm angry. 988 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 4: It should be, it should be. 989 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 5: But yeah, but they are a fun team to watch. 990 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 6: I mean, they they they're Offensically they're incredible, and defensively 991 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 6: at home they're great. I don't know what happens on 992 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 6: the roade, but defensively home they're fine. So I actually 993 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 6: think that they're going to give the Celtics a little 994 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 6: bit of a run. I think they'll probably go six 995 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 6: or like a hard five, if that makes any sense. 996 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 6: But I do think they're fun to root for. It 997 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 6: It's just, you know, right now, and Nick's just lost today, 998 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 6: so I'm just kind of feeling a little little down. 999 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 9: That was the craziest shot making I've ever seen in 1000 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 9: my scene. 1001 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think it actually literally, according to NBA history, 1002 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 8: was the craziest shot making I've ever seen in my 1003 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 8: entire life, because I think they said it was the 1004 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 8: highest field goal percentage ever in a game seven in 1005 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 8: NBA history. It was like sixty seven percent from the 1006 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 8: field by the time, all of a sudden, done so 1007 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 8: but first. 1008 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 3: Half something like that. 1009 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 4: The Pacers are a great example of the nd season 1010 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 4: tournament working because I've watched a dozen Pacers games this year, 1011 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 4: and normally, going into the the playoffs, I would perhaps 1012 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 4: have seen that team play one time, you know what 1013 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 4: I mean. So I do think that's their strength. John 1014 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 4: and Claire give me serious predictions. Is there any any 1015 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 4: interest in predicting a Pacers upset of the Celtics. 1016 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 8: No, but I will say I think the Pacers will 1017 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 8: get a game. To your point, I agree with you, Josh, 1018 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 8: a game, maybe two. The Celtics are good for one, 1019 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 8: get lazy and give a game away game per series, 1020 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 8: so I feel like at minimum five games. But then 1021 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 8: I could see the Pacers maybe if they have another 1022 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 8: crazy hot shooting night like that and the Celtics are 1023 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 8: not having a hot shooting night like I could see 1024 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 8: them getting two games. 1025 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 9: I don't think they're they're going to upset them, though. 1026 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 9: I think the Celtics are going to win that series. 1027 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: I think the Celtics have a bozo game and I 1028 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: think the Celtics have what we just can't hit shit game, 1029 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: you know, and I think it goes six, you know 1030 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: what I mean? 1031 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't. 1032 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: I don't actually don't think the games when the Celtics 1033 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: win will be that close. I think the game for 1034 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: the Celtics win those show that we're much better team. Yeah, 1035 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: but I mean I don't know, like with winning today, 1036 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 2: we saw Halla, but you know, we said to passive. 1037 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't passive today. I think the games that they 1038 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 2: wont he wasn't passed. So there was some truth to 1039 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: what we were saying with that. But yes, I mean 1040 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: the ball moving and ship and he's a fun He's 1041 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,959 Speaker 2: a very likable player, you know what I mean. That's 1042 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: what makes it frustrating when he's not going hard. It's like, 1043 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: I want you to succeed. 1044 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 3: You know. Even though I was rooting for the Knicks, 1045 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 3: I'm still wanting Halliburton to go out. You know what 1046 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying? You know what, working well, but you see, 1047 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: you see the jersey, the hoodie. 1048 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 4: I hate it. 1049 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 9: I hate it. 1050 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 4: Here's here's here's my question. 1051 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 3: It's fun though. 1052 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 4: He wants he wants the villain role. And that's my question. 1053 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: He's goofy. I think he's too goofy to. 1054 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 9: Be, way too goofy to be. 1055 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: I don't believe him. 1056 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 9: I don't believe it at all. 1057 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 8: Like the thing is Trey Young when he was like 1058 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 8: taking on and leaning into that heel role at MSG 1059 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 8: and you know, like motioning to the crowd and stuff 1060 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 8: like that. Like Trey Young is good at being a villain, 1061 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 8: and I have respect for anyone who's willing to step 1062 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 8: into those shoes if they're. 1063 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 9: Good at doing it. 1064 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 8: The problem is Tyre's Halliburton is like I'm going to 1065 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 8: help an old lady cross the street, Like that is 1066 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 8: his vibe and. 1067 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 9: Respect and that. 1068 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 3: He crossed up to cross the first No. 1069 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 9: I don't believe. 1070 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 8: I think Trey would probably be like looking down at 1071 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 8: his phone texting and paying attention, probably, but no. Like so, 1072 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 8: Tyree's is just like he seems like a really good dute. 1073 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 8: He seems like a sweetheart. He seems like he has 1074 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 8: a heart of gold. That's all fine and good. If 1075 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 8: you want to be the heel to the freaking New 1076 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 8: York Knicks, you gotta be you gotta be a little 1077 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 8: like spicier than that. 1078 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 9: He's he's he's vanilla, right, Can we. 1079 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: Admit it all? And I think you was a villain, 1080 00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 1081 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 2: So I think he's trolling the Nicks fan like Trey 1082 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: Young truly enjoyed the hate. 1083 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, And this is this is the problem in 1084 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 4: this rivalry in particular, is you're following in the footsteps 1085 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 4: of Reggie Miller, who is a true villain, who who 1086 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 4: was getting ready to call Game seven tonight and still 1087 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 4: went and posted on his Instagram, Yeah a picture Nick's 1088 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 4: talking shit to him, with the caption when the series changed, 1089 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson, You're a true baller, been the best player 1090 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: in these playoffs. But you and your boys can all 1091 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 4: heal up together on some beautiful beaches in Cancun. Please 1092 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 4: enjoy with two exclamation points that hashtag don't like ugly, but. 1093 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 9: You believe it when he does it because he's just 1094 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 9: such a hater. He's just such you know what. I 1095 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 9: hate to bring up the I don't hate you. 1096 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 8: I love to, but I apologize for bringing up the 1097 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 8: Kendrick and Drake feard intwo concurrent episodes, but it reminds 1098 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 8: me of like I was saying this about the Kendrick 1099 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 8: and Drake thing. It feels like the problem with the 1100 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 8: reason Drake was never going to win that beef is 1101 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 8: because it felt like Drake was just participating, like He's like, 1102 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 8: I'm here in this feud, so I'm going to like 1103 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 8: do my perfunctory your response and participate. Kendrick actively really 1104 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 8: hates him, and it's obvious, like he deeply in his 1105 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 8: bones and he's a hater. He was born in the hate, 1106 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 8: and you can't summon or fake hate if it doesn't 1107 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 8: live within you. And I think that's the problem is 1108 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 8: like Tyree's probably doesn't hate anybody like you know, Reggie's 1109 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 8: a hater. 1110 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: He's a. 1111 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: Drake didn't have enough disdain in him to really get 1112 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 2: really nasty like he needed in order to about him. 1113 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 5: And one more condescending thing to say about the Pagers. 1114 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 6: I don't believe Nicks fans actually brought up the Pacers 1115 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 6: and Halliburton. 1116 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 5: We're like, I'm equal footing, right, So, like Reggie and 1117 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 5: Trey at the time. 1118 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 6: It's like, man, these guys might be better than us, 1119 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 6: or they're at least on the same level. Nick fan, 1120 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 6: we're gonna be like, yeah, we lost that series because 1121 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 6: we're not healthy, period, like whatever. 1122 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 5: He went off like, yeah, exactly. The chat's calling him 1123 00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 5: a Disney villain. 1124 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 3: Best. 1125 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 4: Disney's got some good villains. 1126 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, Disney villains used to keep me up at night. 1127 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, you can't put Tyre's Halliburton on the same category. Bro. 1128 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 4: You know Deville was skinning that's brose. Halliburton's not skinning puppies. 1129 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 4: He's not shooting Bambie's mom in the head, bro. 1130 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 3: Come on, was Ursula from Little Mermaid? She's still nasty. 1131 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 8: It's the difference between someone who would skin a puppy 1132 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 8: and someone who would watch that movie and cry. And 1133 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 8: that's who we're talking about. I really believe he probably 1134 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 8: cried when he watched A hundred and one dalmation him 1135 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 8: because he played amazing tonight. 1136 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's he's a dream where he's a dream. 1137 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 4: He's like a Nickelodeon villain, like a dream Works villain. 1138 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Pixar villain. 1139 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like a Pixar villain. Yeah, that's exact, Yeah, exactly. 1140 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 4: He's like your own guilt, you know what I mean. 1141 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 5: He's like. 1142 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 4: He's like doctor Robot Nickers, you know what I mean. 1143 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 4: It's like he's a villain, but it's kind of like funny. 1144 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 4: That's the same. You're not afraid of him at any point. 1145 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 8: I saw Sweet last week that was like Terry's Halliburton 1146 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 8: is the kid that reminds the teacher they forgot to 1147 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 8: assign homework. 1148 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 4: Bro. 1149 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 3: I feel like Halliburton roots for the cops in car chasing, 1150 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 1151 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: Like you know, like like that's why, you know, I 1152 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: feel like because they're wrong, you know what I mean, 1153 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 2: Like we need to get these people off the street. 1154 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 9: They're never gonna let any of us in Indiana after this. 1155 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 2: And maybe he's you know, he's probably right in that, 1156 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 2: but who's rooting for the cops in that situation? 1157 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 4: You know, John had a beef with the whole state 1158 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 4: of Indiana. 1159 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 9: Where you were aware of that, I'm not what's the beef? 1160 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 4: When he was working at Yahoo, He's he made a 1161 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 4: video that was making fun of Indiana and it was 1162 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 4: like people literally were like, I mean it was like 1163 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 4: a thing for a couple of days. On all of 1164 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 4: our social media, people are like, you're not allowed to 1165 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 4: come to Indiana. 1166 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 9: Oh my god. 1167 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: You The best thing about going to Aflis was leaving. 1168 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 2: And I said that prior to the Beef Nigga, like 1169 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 2: years before that, I went to ask somebody for where 1170 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 2: I go get some to eat. I wanted some what 1171 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: type of cuisine y'all got here? They sent me to 1172 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 2: a subway. I'm like, what the fuck, bro, give me 1173 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 2: the fuck out of here, Bro, I want to go home. 1174 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 9: Skips All Star in Indiana. 1175 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 3: I skipped it, bro, because that's what I said. 1176 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 2: I said, why we don't want an All Star game 1177 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis? Like I just I mean, Chicago was cold. 1178 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 2: At least it was Chicago. I was doing Chicago ship 1179 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 2: with my Chicago friends, you know what I mean? Like 1180 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, so I was like anyway, I was like, 1181 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it. Go to the Alsar 1182 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 2: game and they they had like people inner, have you 1183 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 2: heard a Lejethro Jenkins? 1184 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 3: Could you watch this video? 1185 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: Like in the streets like fox nudes, Fox dudes was 1186 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 2: interviewing people about what I said. 1187 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck they were really it was really, 1188 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 3: I'm not that important for it. 1189 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 4: It was an enjoyable. 1190 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought I was I had an l a 1191 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 2: hat on though. They thought, you know what I'm saying. 1192 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: They were like, I heard you're not even from Ela, 1193 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 2: You're from Saint Louis. Yeah, nigga, fuck you, and I 1194 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: want you to fuck what you said. 1195 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 3: About Saint Louis. 1196 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because I don't give a 1197 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 2: fuck about that's a little We want to interview about 1198 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: what you said because we don't give a fuck. 1199 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 4: Nigga. 1200 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 2: Fu you fuck Indianapolis, nigga, Hey, fuck your opinion. 1201 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 3: You feel me? Every fucking everybody about Halliburton, Fucking Turner nigga. 1202 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 3: I'll bet nobody else in that now for real. That's 1203 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 3: the cool people that hate me anyway. 1204 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 2: But dog, I could imagine some goofy ass nigga saying 1205 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 2: something about Saint Louis and we interview he heard about this, no, 1206 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: because we don't care. 1207 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 3: Somewhere did you see. 1208 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 4: The clip of Halliburton made the shot over Deuce and 1209 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,919 Speaker 4: then did the too small but and then when Deuce 1210 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 4: turned around, he went like he was pretending to like wipe. 1211 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 8: That's why I know he's not a real hater, because 1212 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 8: you can't stand on it ten toes down. If you're 1213 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 8: want to be a hater, you have to be a 1214 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 8: hater front facing, back, facing to the side. 1215 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 3: I still like, I still like Harry's. 1216 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 5: I still like a Tyger's. Haliburton is a high school musical. 1217 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 4: Yeah there you. 1218 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dress shoes, you know what I mean? 1219 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 4: Like I would add, like I'm not even saying this 1220 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 4: is an insult. I thought when Braun tried to be 1221 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 4: the like black head band villain in Miami, I didn't 1222 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 4: think it fit. Like it didn't work on bron either 1223 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 4: to me, you know what I mean, Like, it's just 1224 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 4: some people have that kind of energy, and some people 1225 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 4: Braun is meant to He's a community uplifted person. He's 1226 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 4: meant to dunk on someone and then run around smiling 1227 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 4: like you know what I mean. That's just that's some 1228 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 4: people's energy, and is that mixture of both energies. He 1229 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 4: is a happy person who wants to kill you, And 1230 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 4: I think that's what's so exciting. And I think that's 1231 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 4: where people the MJ comparisons make sense. To me, it's 1232 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 4: a similar energy. 1233 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 8: You can't try and pretend you're a Slytherin when you're 1234 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 8: ultimately a gryffindor you know, just sign I love. 1235 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 4: That, I love it. 1236 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 3: I love it. 1237 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 4: We could get into my Percy Jackson greater than Harry 1238 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 4: Potter takes if we want to, like really dive into it. Hey, 1239 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 4: I just read the first Percy Jackson book with my 1240 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 4: son and he do you know how he ends the 1241 00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 4: first book, John to his mom's husband his stepfather was 1242 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 4: like abusing her whatever. He realizes this at the end 1243 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 4: of the book and he literally goes to his mom 1244 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 4: is like I'll kill him. Like he was like, just 1245 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: say the word, bro. I was like, I love this 1246 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 4: little motherfucker. 1247 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1248 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 4: That's that's real. That's real hate right there. 1249 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 3: All right, I have the hate. I won't say the 1250 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 3: other that's crazy. Yeah, all right. 1251 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 4: Tyler's he tweeted this, but he also texted, uh, this 1252 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 4: is his take on the on on the Pacers advancing. 1253 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 4: He said the Celtics have no excuses after going through 1254 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 4: a Jimmy lyst heat Cleveland, Indianapolis and then either Dallas 1255 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,479 Speaker 4: or Minnesota. If they fuck this one up, they won't 1256 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 4: ever be ship ever. 1257 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 3: I mean, is he wrong, Right, Yeah, that's exactly right. 1258 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 8: Look at least, okay, in the finals, they're going to 1259 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 8: be facing a seriously formidable opponent, whether it's I think 1260 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 8: it's gonna be the Timberrels, whether it's the Timberrels or 1261 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 8: the Mavericks. 1262 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 9: But in the East, like like you know, the. 1263 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 8: Knicks, they never even had to face the Knicks because 1264 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 8: they lost like four fifths of their starting lineup. The Bucks, 1265 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 8: you know, never had to face the Bucks because they 1266 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 8: were without Giannis and Dame. I mean like Miami was 1267 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 8: without Jimmy, Billy was without a healthy embiid. 1268 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 4: The Calves were without Donovan Mitchell or some of it. 1269 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 9: I mean it was like literally like there were no 1270 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 9: stars available in there. 1271 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 4: Didn't even get the best version of the seven, you know, 1272 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 4: of the Calves and then of the Heat and it 1273 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, so no, I totally agree with him. 1274 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 4: Let's talk for a minute about the MAVs beating the Thunder. 1275 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 4: I've made a decision regarding this Thunder team. Okay, I'm 1276 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 4: going to inherit the beef from Seattle, and it's fucked 1277 00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,800 Speaker 4: the Thunder until the SuperSonics exist again. I'm just you 1278 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 4: don't like you don't like those guys, not fuck them. 1279 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,359 Speaker 4: I mean I like, I like, I like everybody else. 1280 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 4: The franchise that wearing the T shirts fucked the you know, 1281 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 4: all of it until they until because they stole that 1282 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 4: team bro and fuck them. That's why I. 1283 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 2: Don't like the clothes you wear. I don't like the 1284 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: shoes you have all. I don't like how you smell, 1285 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 2: how you smile, Like you hate everything. 1286 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 9: He's such a hater that he. 1287 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 8: Didn't even have hate and he just like found a reason, 1288 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 8: like he just like found a beef somebody else's beef. 1289 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I saw I have friends of mine from 1290 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 4: Seattle who who celebrate the Thunder's downfall like no other. 1291 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 4: And I just saw the tweets and I was like, yeah, 1292 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 4: this is my type of party. 1293 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 3: Brother, yeah, the Thunder. 1294 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. But I mean there's people that like they're tweeting 1295 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 4: gifts of windows closing, you know what I mean. That 1296 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 4: was like it was like, oh, they'll be back, you know, 1297 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 4: like the window is going to be open for the 1298 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 4: next decade, just like when Kadi and. 1299 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 3: Ny tweet Oh that was just wah. 1300 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 8: I do think they'll be back, though, I really do, 1301 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,439 Speaker 8: like because I get it, Like the West is gonna, 1302 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 8: you know, theoretically get better, you know, obviously, like Wemby 1303 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 8: will probably be elevating the Spurs. Jaw's going to come 1304 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 8: back to the Grizzlies. But also we've seen like you know, 1305 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 8: the upper echelon. 1306 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 4: Lakers are gonna get JJ Reddick and be the one. 1307 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 8: Seed exactly, you know, they're gonna they're gonna get Len 1308 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 8: another ring. No, but we just saw the Wolves, you know, 1309 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 8: upset the defending champs. Like the West is vulnerable, and 1310 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 8: it's still gonna be vulnerable, like it's very good. There's 1311 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 8: a ton of parody though, there's a ton of parody. 1312 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 9: In the West. I think there's a lot of really 1313 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 9: good teams. 1314 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 8: And I don't know if they'll get, you know, to 1315 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 8: the conference finals next year, but I think they'll be 1316 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 8: right back in the playoff mix for sure. 1317 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 2: Shay had to have a perfect season like averaging thirty 1318 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 2: shooting what fifty five from the field, like nearly like 1319 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 2: thirty like that was to be the one. 1320 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 8: Seed, though, and they're probably gonna get better, like they're 1321 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 8: probably gonna go find some size, and so they're probably 1322 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 8: gonna go do the stuff they should have done at 1323 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 8: the trade that line. Yeah, sure, So I think they're 1324 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 8: gonna get better. I think they're gonna move off Giddy. 1325 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 9: I think they should. 1326 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 8: I don't think he's probably not as bad as he 1327 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 8: looks right now, just because he's super miscast in that role. 1328 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 8: But like they they have a lot of improvements they 1329 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 8: can make, and they have the tools and assets to 1330 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 8: make those improvements. 1331 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 9: So I don't see why they can't be right back. 1332 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 4: Honestly, Giddy had a all time like we've been making 1333 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 4: fun of Rudy Gobert whoever, Giddy had an all time 1334 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 4: what the fuck are you doing moment in that In 1335 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 4: that game, he drove the lamb. I mean it was 1336 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 4: one of those like if they let a fan like, 1337 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 4: would you like to try and get a layup on 1338 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 4: an NBA said, like it was so bad, It's really terrible. 1339 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 9: You get this, dude, He was really bad that whole series. 1340 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, he was, for sure, And I agree with you 1341 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 4: that he's not Like it's not necessarily that he can't 1342 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 4: be an effective player. He's just not in the right 1343 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 4: role with the pieces they brought in, and he's obviously 1344 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 4: the piece that you would not keep of those pieces 1345 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 4: that don't fit. So yeah, okay, we're gonna wrap up 1346 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 4: with our Oh Claire, this is great. You're here on 1347 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 4: a Sunday, you get to do dookie butt of the week. 1348 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 9: We end the show with one I mean out of 1349 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 9: the context of this show, yes. 1350 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 4: But we end the show with one person placer thing 1351 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 4: that we truly hate, and so I will open up. 1352 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 4: My dookie butt of the week is the Los Angeles Clippers, 1353 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 4: because as of tonight, here's just a short list of 1354 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 4: people or teams that have been to the Western Conference 1355 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 4: Finals more than the Clippers. LUCA has now been to 1356 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 4: more Western Conference Finals than the history of the Clippers, 1357 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 4: and the Minnesota Timberwolves, with their second Western Conference Finals appearance, 1358 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 4: are now more postseason success than the LA Clippers. Congratulations, 1359 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 4: the haunted state of Minnesota has doubled you up on 1360 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 4: Western Conference Finals appearances. 1361 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 9: You have to go next because I needed a second. 1362 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 3: This is kind of a throwback. This has to do 1363 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 3: with bookers. Baby girls started eating them though Oh no, no, 1364 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: she was. 1365 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 2: She been doing this a lot, and I'm like, sew me, 1366 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 2: they got your nose, baby girl? 1367 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 3: That ain't that ain't cool? You feel me? 1368 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: Like, put it out, and the day we was in 1369 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 2: Target and she finish it out and I'm like, I 1370 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 2: look the way he looked back and she had her 1371 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: thumb in her mouth, just eating a booger. 1372 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 3: Like matter of fact, we don't do that. That's nasty work, baby, 1373 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 3: don't do that. 1374 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 4: She looked at me like it was delicious. Yeah, like 1375 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 4: right right, you dammage your own credibility. 1376 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 3: Season to perfection. You know, why would I not eat these? 1377 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? 1378 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 5: Her? 1379 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 3: For get a salt right here? Like she loved it. 1380 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 4: It's such a it's such a tough battle with toddlers 1381 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 4: because their taste buds only taste salt and sugar. It's 1382 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 4: the only like flavors that they can under stand. 1383 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, sorry, it's a life that we live. 1384 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 4: Josh moving by the week all. 1385 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 6: Right, So it's gonna sound bad at first, but my 1386 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 6: Dookey by the Week is a w n B A 1387 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 6: and it's for investigating the aces for each one of 1388 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 6: their players getting one. 1389 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 3: Hundred dollars said, I was wondering what that was. 1390 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 5: The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority. 1391 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 4: But you're saying the league is bad for investigating it. 1392 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 6: Yes, Okay, let these women get their money, like this 1393 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 6: is this is great for the game. They're growing the game, 1394 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 6: they're growing the league. The city of Las Vegas decided 1395 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 6: that they want to sponsor each player and give them 1396 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 6: each from Asia Wilson to the bench last bench player 1397 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars for just as a sponsorship. And 1398 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 6: I think it's a thing. I think it's a great thing. 1399 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 6: I think it's a way that city can support the 1400 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 6: players and support the league. And he's going out there 1401 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 6: and investigating it because it might violate the salary tap somehow. 1402 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can see how it would violate the salary cap. 1403 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 6: Right, But it's not the organization paying players. That's a sponsorship. 1404 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 6: That's that's if like. 1405 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 3: Gator, if it was like Boostery with like n C 1406 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 3: double A prior to Yeah, again, I get it. 1407 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 6: By all means, it seems like they want the beat 1408 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 6: out the right way. So for me, I just I 1409 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 6: just don't think now is the time to be investigating 1410 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 6: something that like like that where where I feel like 1411 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 6: the w n b A is fighting uh relevancy in 1412 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 6: the sense where a lot of people still don't take 1413 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 6: the league seriously for whatever freaking reason, and these ladies 1414 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 6: are severely underpaid. They don't get as much as the 1415 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,040 Speaker 6: revue shares the men do. So for me, I I 1416 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 6: just think that this is a bad look w n 1417 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 6: b A at least money. 1418 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 8: The other broke cities just need to get their paper up. 1419 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 8: Thank you broke out by Brooke Boys city is out 1420 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 8: here hating on Vegas. 1421 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that's like, that's the tension of 1422 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 4: the w n b A though, like like we talked about, 1423 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 4: you know, the max salary in the w n b A. 1424 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 4: It's it's insane. It's not tied to actual profitability and revenue, 1425 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,919 Speaker 4: like the league minimum is very low, and so they've 1426 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 4: always been constrained by and this is what a lot 1427 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 4: of the growing things have been coming from. The NBA 1428 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 4: always saw as like a like a like a growth initiative, 1429 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 4: but almost like a promotional thing. And the players obviously 1430 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 4: correctly see it as a competitive league of the best 1431 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 4: players in the world. And so you have this tension 1432 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 4: of the NBA, you know, I mean, it's it's amazing 1433 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 4: that the that the league started and that the NBA 1434 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 4: supported it, but they also were suppressing its growth by 1435 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 4: not treating it as a competitive professional league that you 1436 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 4: would want owners who are trying to pour money in 1437 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 4: and get into a bidding war. That's been the success 1438 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,840 Speaker 4: formula for every American professional sports league or international too. 1439 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 4: So this is a good example. Like you said, Josh, 1440 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 4: it's like if a company has a policy of just 1441 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 4: signing every Los Angeles Laker to a one hundred thousand 1442 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 4: dollars endorsement deal, no one gives a fuck about that, right, 1443 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 4: But because because the w NBA salary double salary, it's like, yeah, 1444 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 4: I feel like it's more that they're worried about the 1445 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 4: light it's gonna shine on than any actual salary cap price. 1446 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 2: That's so true, right, WNBA related, have y'all been hearing 1447 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 2: how people talking about Kaitlyn Clark, Like, how do have 1448 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 2: y'all been people like dude just saying they need the 1449 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 2: w NBA. 1450 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Is approaching this all wrong. 1451 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 2: The players, and they're like, basically, don't compete with her, 1452 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: let her drop twenty thirty a game for the first 1453 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 2: couple of years to keep I mean, we're seeing like NBA, like. 1454 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 4: Ex they've been going out of their way to beat 1455 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,439 Speaker 4: the shit out of Kaitlyn Clark, though, Bro. 1456 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 8: The one good Caitlyn Clark take this week like it's 1457 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 8: either like they need to be easier on her or 1458 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 8: or it's like it's like, oh, she's a bus and 1459 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 8: she can't survive in the league, instead of just like 1460 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 8: there's an adjustment phase. 1461 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 9: It's normal, figure it out. Just figuring it out, she'll 1462 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 9: be fine, be fine. 1463 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: Well. 1464 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 4: I think also, like one thing about the WNBA is 1465 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 4: the disparity. But between the top team and the bottom 1466 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 4: team is there's a significant disparity, and she gets drafted 1467 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 4: by the team with the worst record. That's how the 1468 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 4: number one? How do you think they got the number one? Right? So, 1469 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 4: but it's it's sort of like the way I think 1470 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 4: it would be like if you were to say, like 1471 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 4: Wemby's the savior of the NBA, like why didn't they 1472 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 4: let him get to the playoffs? And it's like, well, no, 1473 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 4: like they want to bust his fucking ass and they 1474 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 4: want to bust Kaitlin, Like that's how this ship is 1475 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 4: supposed to work. 1476 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 3: I've never heard that though. 1477 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 2: I've never heard people saying that they shouldn't compete with 1478 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 2: a player, right, but I have never heard of That's 1479 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1480 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 8: How to be normal about this and it's embarrassing. It's 1481 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 8: just like, just watch, just let her learn how to 1482 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 8: be in the w n b A and just watch 1483 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 8: it like a normal person. 1484 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 4: Right, No, people don't know how to be normal about 1485 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 4: women's sports. I think that's exactly right. It's just like 1486 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 4: it's like, yes, it's is it a huge deal that 1487 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 4: she's in the Has her presence in the league changed 1488 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 4: things for the league or obviously, without question, it's still 1489 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,360 Speaker 4: a competitive league. That's what's exciting about it is people 1490 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,320 Speaker 4: wanting to beat the hell out of her and then 1491 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 4: as she gets her footing, as that team's hopefully then hurt. 1492 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 3: Right, that's what sports are. She gets waiting for Wimby, 1493 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 1494 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,439 Speaker 4: Like, all right, Claire, you're you're a dookie butt. 1495 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 3: Of the week. 1496 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 9: My dookie butt of the week is Reggie Miller. A. 1497 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 8: Because I think it's really corny when people like I 1498 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 8: think it's corny, when just like normal fans are like, 1499 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 8: we I like, we need to do this, I need 1500 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 8: to I'm just like, dude, you didn't do anything. You 1501 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 8: weren't out there, you weren't playing whatever. So that language 1502 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 8: already pisses me off. But then Reggie trying to like 1503 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 8: take glory from the Pacers for winning this series. It's like, 1504 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 8: my guy, you haven't laid off basketball shoes in like 1505 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 8: two decades, Like just please chill. And then on top 1506 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 8: of that, he makes me listen to his blithering blathering on. 1507 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 8: He's a horrible color commentator. He shits all over a 1508 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 8: beautiful Kevin Harlan performance, and I'm just sick of him. 1509 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 8: I'm sick of Reggie Miller. I don't hate a lot 1510 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 8: of people, but if I have to think of one 1511 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 8: dooky butt of the week, that was mine. 1512 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,959 Speaker 4: Can I tell you the only thing I like about 1513 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 4: Reggie Miller is I love watching Kevin Harlan and I 1514 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 4: love feeling the exasperated side he's swallowing. I tweeted about 1515 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,600 Speaker 4: that that, like, my favorite thing about Kevin Harlan is 1516 01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 4: he's not given Reggie Miller a single pity laugh. 1517 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 9: That those jokes just. 1518 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 4: Like you can't hear him splat. 1519 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 3: And then today he'll give him a little space to 1520 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 3: let it. 1521 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 4: And then like you know, yr Ki, I mean, he 1522 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,559 Speaker 4: only sat for like a minute and a half or something, 1523 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 4: but the tim got it got a run going when 1524 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 4: he was on the bench, and they had talked about 1525 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 4: that on the broadcast, and then like five minutes later, 1526 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 4: Reggie Miller's like, oh yeah, like he hasn't sad at all, 1527 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 4: and then Kevin Harlan lets him sit for a second. 1528 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 4: He's like, you know, he he did sit for a 1529 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 4: little bit, but your point stands reg you know, it's 1530 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 4: so good, oh man, just a lot of minutes. 1531 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 9: You're right, it's yeah, it's it's really painful to listen 1532 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:12,560 Speaker 9: to it. 1533 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 8: And I mean, I'm not saying that like every color 1534 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 8: commentator needs to be like a savant at it. I 1535 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 8: know it's a difficult job, but like he just stands 1536 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 8: out as being especially bad at it, and it's tough. 1537 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 3: He's not as bad as he used to be. Yeah, 1538 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 3: I'll say that. 1539 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 4: I actually, I mean it's not as bad as the 1540 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 4: forcing the Kodak moment thing like I'll give you like 1541 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 4: I would give it because those were excuse we used 1542 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,520 Speaker 4: to hop on the podcast and just shiver about. 1543 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 8: That Catman do today and then laughed at his own 1544 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 8: joke and then no one else on the panel laugh. 1545 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 9: So if you've gotten better, I haven't noticed. 1546 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 3: I like a person that I like a person I 1547 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 3: love like joke and they just laughed like fuck y'all. 1548 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 5: I like, that's a da doing stand up and he 1549 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 5: hissed against his leg. 1550 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 3: And right right, nobody even has kind of dry joke. 1551 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 3: But yeah, you feel me. Sigefeld does it too. 1552 01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 4: But you know, I think like Jamal Crawford to me, 1553 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 4: should be the media that hit the Reggie Miller dinosaurs. 1554 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,839 Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, it's I love Jamal Crawford. 1555 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 4: That's easy. 1556 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 3: Just and he's talking basketball none of that. 1557 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not trying to come out with no 1558 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 2: Kodak moment cools ship that, No, bro, I'm talking straight 1559 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 2: hoops here, bro. 1560 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 3: I love that. 1561 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, that's all the time we got. Thanks 1562 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 4: to everyone for tuning in this. Claire, thanks for hopping 1563 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 4: on again clearly on Twitter and was like I need 1564 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 4: to talk about the temper Wolves, like. 1565 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 1566 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 8: I was like, I need to come back soon because 1567 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 8: there's so much to talk about, and he's like, how 1568 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 8: about literally. 1569 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 4: Right now, prove that you want to come back on 1570 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 4: the show. 1571 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 9: I'm about that life. Let the record show him about 1572 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 9: that life. 1573 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,839 Speaker 4: Just like just like Tyler and the rest of the podcast, 1574 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 4: Claire will die for this podcasting ship. All right, our 1575 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,680 Speaker 4: schedule this week. We will be recording live on Tuesday 1576 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 4: and Thursday, so obviously after the first two Eastern Conference games, 1577 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 4: and then we will record on Sunday, which will be 1578 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 4: after Game three of Timberwolves Maps, and obviously we'll be 1579 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 4: talking about the Western Conference Finals as we go. Thanks 1580 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 4: everyone for listening. If you're listening to this in podcast format, 1581 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 4: you can hop on Tuesday, Thursday Sunday night live with 1582 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 4: us on YouTube YouTube dot com slash At Jenkins and 1583 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 4: Jones Claire. Once again, thank you, Josh, James, John wish 1584 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 4: you luck with the booger eating situation, and. 1585 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 3: We'll see y'all on Tuesday. 1586 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 4: Bye bye 1587 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 1: The Volume