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If they want 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: to shut down of the economy, they get it today. 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm issuing a stay home, Stay Safe executive order. 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: If they want to paint the streets, Democrats somehow make 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: it happen. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: The street along New York City's Fifth Avenue in front 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: of Trump Tower. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: Is closed to traffic today as the words black Lives 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: Matter are painted on the President's doorstep. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: Essentially, And if they want players to take a knee, 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: the millionaires comply, players and coaches from the New York 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: Yankees and Washington Nationals taking a knee. Why is that? 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Why do democrats always seem to get what they want? 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 5: I'm Patrick Carrelci and I'm Adriana Cortez and this is 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 5: Red Pilled America, a storytelling show. This is not another 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: talk show covering the day's news. We are all about 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 5: telling stories. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories. 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 5: The media mocks stories about everyday Americans that the globalists ignore. 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: You could think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries, 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Red Pilled America. It's hard to deny that the Democrats 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: always seem to get what they want. Sure, they didn't 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: get their way when Trump became president, but even when 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: they're out of power, the Left seems to find a 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: way to deliver for their base, whether it be Obamacare, 35 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: gay marriage, massive illegal immigration, censoring conservatives, all the important 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: stuff seems to turn in their favor. Why is that? 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Why do Democrats always seem to get what they want. 38 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: To find the answer, we're going to hear the story 39 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: of Arizona Congressman Paul Gosar and his chief of staff 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Thomas van Flyin, two American patriots that arrived in DC 41 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: on a red wave that was hell bent unchanging the 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: status quo. Throughout their journey, they've racked up some wins 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: against the democrats smear machine and have learned a thing 44 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: or two about how they operate. 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: Paul Gosar is one of the few Republican congressmen in 46 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 5: America that gets things done while managing to keep his 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: boots clean of the Washington, d C. Swamp. But that 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: doesn't mean he hasn't had some mud slung his way. 49 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: I was blindsided, to be very honest with you. That's Paul, 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: one of my colleagues from the Democratic side. We were 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: waiting at the airport and he said, just want to 52 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: let you know you're tough enough to take it, but 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: there's a video coming and that's all he said. And 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: then the video comes out, and to say I was 55 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: upset would be an understatement. 56 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: Paul had to learn the hard way about the links 57 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 5: to which the Democrats will go to win. Yet through 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: it all, him and his team have figured out a 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: way to rack up a few ws themselves. His road 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: to our nation's capital looks a lot like our founders intended. 61 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 5: He grew up in a small town in Wyoming called Rock. 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: Springs Town that never when I was there, never was 63 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: more than about nine hundred people. It's on the headwaters 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: of the Green River. 65 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 5: Paul's household was a significant percentage of the city's population. 66 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: I come from a big family. I'm the first of 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: ten kids, a bunch of overachievers. 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: Paul ties his family success us to the household's dynamic. 69 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: I've got two parents. My mom was a former teacher 70 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: that decided to stay home raise a family and helped 71 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: teach us at home after school from the public school districts. 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: My dad was a geologist, and he was not the 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 4: average geologist. Most geologists would do one well at a time. 74 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: That guy would do three or four at a time. 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: So he was kind of a crazy man. And we 76 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: were raised that, you know, don't let anything stop you. 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: We were also very athletic, so we bounced on each 78 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: other over and over again. And I think that that's 79 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: what made us achieve, was the competition within the house, 80 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 4: whether it be from breakfast getting up to breakfast, knowing 81 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: that you know, when breakfast was served, a few aren't there, 82 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: you weren't going to get anything, and then you'd have 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: to wait till lunch. 84 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: As an athletic kid, Paul's dreams mirrored many boys of 85 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: the time. He wanted to play college football, then go 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: on to be the next Fran Tarkenton, the famed quarterback 87 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: of the Minnesota Vikings. 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: And so I had a dear uncle, my mom's brother, 89 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: who was a dentist, and he kept coming to me saying, 90 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: what do you want to do with your life? And 91 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: my dad, as I told you, was always on the rigs, 92 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: and so he made every attempt to see our ballgames. 93 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: But my uncle was always there kind of mentoring us. 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 5: It was a relationship that would make a deep impact 95 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: on Paul's career path. A few games into his varsity 96 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: season of high school football, Paul broke his arm, dashing 97 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 5: his NFL dreams in search of an new way forward. 98 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: There was something about his uncle's work as a dentist 99 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: that caught. 100 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: His eye, and I kind of liked the way that 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: he had the ability to treat people, to be part 102 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: of the culture, part of the community, and be part 103 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: of his kids' lives. 104 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: When it came time for college, Paul's mom was worried 105 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: about him attending the University of Wyoming because she'd seen 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 5: too many kids get caught up in the party atmosphere there. 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: So long story short, I actually decided to go to 108 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: Creyton to get my mom off my back. 109 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 5: While at Creighton, he oscillated between medicine and dentistry until 110 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: he settled on his uncle's line of work, largely because 111 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 5: of the freedom it would. 112 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: Afford him, and finally chose dentistry because I thought that 113 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: if I went into medicine, that would be the only 114 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: thing I could do in my life, because I would 115 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: put everything behind it. So I went into dentistry and 116 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: never looked back. 117 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: By his senior year in college, he began thinking about 118 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 5: where he wanted to put down roots. 119 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 4: I was still single. I just did not want to 120 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: come back to Rock Springs, Wyoming. If you've ever been 121 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: to Rock Springs, Wyoming, great people, but not kind of 122 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: a place I wanted to live. So my dad heard 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: me talk to my uncle that I wasn't coming back 124 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: to Rock Springs, and my dad said to me, said, listen, 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: as much as I'd love to have you come back 126 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: to Wyoming, I think we're going to have a crash 127 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: in our minerals and energy and that wouldn't be a 128 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: good time for you to be owning a practice or 129 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: trying to get your business off the ground. 130 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 5: Paul took his father's advice and began writing letters to 131 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 5: Dennis practices outside of his hometown. That's when his mom 132 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: got her two cents in. 133 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 4: She goes, listen, your dad and I went through this 134 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: town called Flagstaff on our way to on our honeymoon 135 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: to Mexico. A lot of trees. You'd love it. I 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: love trees, I love planting, I love working outdoors. 137 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: So he wrote a man with an office in the area, 138 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 5: and his chance would have it. He was looking to 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 5: sell his practice. 140 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: So I made arrangements to fly out there and take 141 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: the Greyhound bus up to Flagstaff during spring break. And 142 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: the practice wasn't for me. 143 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: So he headed to Phoenix to one of the dentistry 144 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: supply companies and he met someone there that could help, 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: a guy. 146 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: From Wyoming that knew my uncle, and he said, hey, 147 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: you like that flag Staff area And I said, yeah, 148 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: but that practice that He said, oh, there's another one. 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: So there's a guy that's doing a satellite office with 150 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: one chair and his wife is in dental school and 151 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: they're not making it and the bank's probably going to 152 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: repoe it. You're interested, I'll let you know, and lo 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: and behold, I ended up daling this guy out before 154 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: he was repoted. 155 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: Paul made the move to Flagstaff in nineteen eighty five. 156 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 5: He settled in got married, and him and his wife, Maud, 157 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: eventually had three kids. Like his uncle, Paul enjoyed the 158 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: freedom the dentistry offered. 159 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was always very talented in art, very 160 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: talented with my hands, and the Good Lord has given 161 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: me some great eyes and shapes. So dentistry was a 162 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: real fun adventure. But I also got involved in the 163 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: politics of dentistry. 164 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 5: When Paul was young. He remembers his dad being chairman 165 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: for the Republican Party in his area. 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: And so we actually got to see sena and folks 167 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: at the local, state and county levels. So we're always 168 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: told to be part of that, and so in Arizona 169 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: I started in the dental realms. I pretty much held 170 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: every position that they have, from local president on our 171 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: constituent level, all the way to the state and then 172 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: to the council and government affairs, to the American Dental Association, 173 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: where I represented seven states. 174 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: Then in two thousand and eight, through his involvement with 175 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: the association, Paul was introduced to an issue that would 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: eventually change the direction of his life. Forever more after 177 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: the break. 178 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. So by two thousand and eight, Paul Gosar 179 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: had built a successful practice and was getting more and 180 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: more involved in the politics of the dental industry when 181 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: he was introduced to an issue that we'd change the 182 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: direction of his life forever. US public health groups began 183 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: pitching a lower standard of care for Native American patients 184 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: in Alaska. The proposal was to allow people with merely 185 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: a high school diploma in eighteen months of training to 186 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: treat these patients instead of actual dentists. 187 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: And it's called the Dental Health Aid therapist. They mimicked 188 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: what was at the time being done in New Zealand 189 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: and Australia and Patrick, if you know anything about the 190 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: Native Americans, they have a higher degree of diabetes and 191 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: heart disease, which makes even simple procedures potentially life threatening. 192 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: It so happens that roughly thirty percent of Paul's flag 193 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Staff patient base was Native American. 194 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: And so one of the things I did is, as 195 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: you'll find, I don't run from being a dentist. I 196 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: run to being a dentist. Is I would share the 197 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: experience with them. This is what public health is trying 198 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: to do to you, is that something that you want? 199 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: And so typical appointments that were an hour probably go 200 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 4: an hour and a half. I was like, my staff 201 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: was going crazy, but I wanted to share. 202 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: That the feedback he was getting was that they wanted 203 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: the same standard of care as everyone else. 204 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 4: So we were coming back to Washington to see four 205 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: times a year, once every quarter. I started coming early 206 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: and paying my own nickel to start walking the hill 207 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: to find out what was going on and how things 208 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: were moving. The congressman of our district at the time, 209 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: Rick Ramsey, showed me around and introduced me to Mike Pence. 210 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Mike Pence took me around to show me Energy and 211 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 4: Commerce and the committees of jurisdiction. 212 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: On his trips, Paul was learning that the desires of 213 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the Native Americans didn't seem to be getting to the 214 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: decision makers. It was around this time that he met 215 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: an attorney named Tom van Flein. 216 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 6: For a period of time, I represented both the Alaska 217 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 6: Dental Association and the American Dental Association. 218 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: That's Tom. 219 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 6: There was some litigation going on involving what are called 220 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,119 Speaker 6: mid level providers. 221 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: When they met, Tom was impressed by Paul's moxie. 222 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 6: He was with several other dentists at the time, and 223 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 6: they were fired up. They were fighters, So I liked them. 224 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 6: I liked the fact that they were not afraid to 225 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 6: pursue what is right, no matter the consequences, and no 226 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 6: matter if it upset people in the media or other 227 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 6: people who wanted the status quo. 228 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Against Paul's advice, the national leadership ended up backing down 229 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: from the fight. But through this conflict, Paul and Tom 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: became friends. 231 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 6: Not long after that, two thousand and nine, decided he's 232 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 6: going to run for office for Congress, and he reached 233 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 6: out to me, and I said, Hey, anything I can 234 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 6: do to help it well, So I ended up doing 235 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 6: most of the policy stuff for the campaign. Righted to 236 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 6: get go. 237 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: The pairing made sense. By the time Paul had decided 238 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: to run for Congress, Tom had already been facing off 239 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: with the establishment monster in a big way as the 240 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: personal attorney for Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska. It 241 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: was the canary in the coal mine that showed the 242 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: length to which the left would go to defeat their opposition. 243 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Sarah Palin was introduced to a national audience in the 244 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: summer of two thousand and eight. 245 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 7: I am very pleased, I'm very privileged to introduce to 246 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 7: you the next Vice President of the United States, Governor 247 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 7: Sarah Palin of the great State of Alaska. 248 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 8: Thank you so much, and I thank you, Senator McCain 249 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 8: and missus McCain for the confidence that you have placed 250 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 8: in me. Senator, I am honored to be chosen as 251 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 8: your running weight. 252 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: She was largely an unknown at the time, but her 253 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: good looks, charisma, and gift of speaking on the podium 254 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: made her an instant hit with the geo base. 255 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: I had the privilege of living most of my life 256 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: in a small town. I was just your average hockey 257 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: mom and signed up for the PTA. 258 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 8: I love those hockey moms. 259 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: You know they say the difference between a hockey mom 260 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: and a pitbull lipstick. 261 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Palin's edition injected new life into McCain's floundering campaign, with 262 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: one poll showing him surpassing Barack Obama by ten points 263 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: shortly after she joined the ticket. That's when the left's 264 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: cultural Leviathan went to work on the Alaskan governor. 265 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 6: So when she became the Republican vice presidential nominee, the 266 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 6: left did what the left does went after her heart. 267 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: The media used her inexperience on the national stage to 268 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: create a narrative that she was a lightweight. 269 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 9: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your 270 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 9: foreign policy experience. 271 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 5: What did you mean by that. 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime war between a 273 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land 274 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a 275 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: comment like that was kind of. 276 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: Made to. 277 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, reporters. Yeah, marked, I guess 278 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: that's the word. Yeah. 279 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live added to the narrative. 280 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 10: And now a nonpartisan message from Governor Sarah Palin and 281 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 10: Senator Hillary Clinton. 282 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: Good evening, my fellow Americans. 283 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 7: I was so excited when I was told Senator Clinton and. 284 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 8: I would be addressing. 285 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: You tonight, and I was told I would be addressing 286 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: you alone. 287 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 8: You know, Hillary and I don't agree on anything. 288 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 6: I believe that diplomacy should be the cornerstone of any 289 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 6: foreign policy, and. 290 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 5: I can see Russia from my. 291 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Of course, the media handled her gaff prone VP opponent 292 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden with kid gloves, but that made no difference. 293 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: The damage was being done. In parallel, the Democrats began 294 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: creating headlines for the media and. 295 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 6: They started to use ethics complaints as a weapon on lawfare. 296 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 6: And at the time, I don't know if it's even 297 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 6: changed yet, but at the time, anyone anywhere in the 298 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 6: country could file an ethics complaint for any alleged issue 299 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 6: they wanted to against the governor, and you didn't have 300 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 6: to be vetted first. Nobody had to research it or 301 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 6: determine if it had validity. So all these crazy, frivolous 302 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: and harassing complaints were filed. 303 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: Like tag team wrestlers. The media used these Democrat instigated 304 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: complaints to constantly attack the VP nominee. 305 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 11: The McCain plan ticket is bracing for what could be 306 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 11: an embarrassing report. Lawmakers in Alaska are expected to release 307 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 11: the results of an investigation into possible abuse of power 308 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 11: by Governor Sarah Palin and the so called Troopergate inquiry. 309 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 6: Every complaint resulted in a headline above the fold. Every 310 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 6: dismissal was barely mentioned. 311 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: That was the pattern, as each was either dismissed or 312 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: found to have no merit, it didn't stop the complaints 313 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: from piling up. 314 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 6: I think We reached twenty seven or twenty eight ethics 315 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 6: complaints that were filed and handled by what was called 316 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 6: the Personnel Board with a full investigator. The investigator usually 317 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 6: being hired by the way, by the Obama law firm 318 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: of Perkins Kooy, so that was who was in charge 319 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 6: of the neutral investigation on these things. We still won 320 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 6: all of them. 321 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: All but one of these investigations were dismissed. The sole 322 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: remaining complaint that Palin had to settle was for a 323 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: minor issue related to bringing her own daughter on a 324 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: plane trip with her for governor business when her husband 325 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: was unable to babysit. It was a non issue. 326 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 6: The rest were thrown out or she was acquitted vindicated. 327 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 6: But it took a lot of time, a lot of money, 328 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 6: and it did what it was intended to do, and 329 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: that was to destroy her reputation, destroy her standing in 330 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 6: the state. Her ratings as governor plummeted, and two years 331 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 6: of that was one of the key factors that caused 332 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 6: her to say, I don't need this anymore. 333 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: Over the past nine months, I've been accused of all 334 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: sorts of frivolous ethics violations, such as holding a fish 335 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: in a photograph or wearing a jacket with a logo 336 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: on it and answering reporters questions every one of these, 337 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: though all fifteen of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. 338 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: We have won, but it hasn't been cheap. The state 339 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: has wasted thousands of hours of your time and showed 340 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: out some two million of your dollars to respond to 341 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: opposition research. And that's money that's not going to fund 342 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: teachers or troopers or safer roads. And this political absurdity, 343 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: the politics of personal distry direction Todd and I. We're 344 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: looking at more than half a million dollars in legal 345 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: bills just in order to set the record straight so 346 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: that Alaska may progress. I will not seek re election 347 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: as governor. 348 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: But even after her resignation the Democrat machine wasn't done 349 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: with her yet. They wanted to make sure this charismatic 350 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: conservative leader would not be a threat in the future. 351 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: SNL continued spoofing her, and HBO produced a film called 352 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: Game Change, mocking her. VP run, I understand you've prepared speech. 353 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 6: Is that correct? 354 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I have. 355 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 12: I want to salute John for everything he's done for 356 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 12: this country. 357 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 13: It's not going to happen. 358 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: You're not giving a. 359 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 14: Speech, and why is that, Steve, You're not giving a 360 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 14: speech because the vice presidential candidate has never given a 361 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 14: concession speech on election night. It's not about you, it's 362 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 14: about the country. 363 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: The Democrat establishment used its cultural institutions to send a 364 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: clear message to every talented conservative in America. Oppose us 365 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: and and we will destroy you. To date, the right 366 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: has no equivalent cultural mechanism in place. Tom got to 367 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: see this smear machine up close. It put him in 368 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: a good position to help guide Paul Gosar's twenty ten 369 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: run for Congress. And oh what a time it was 370 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: for Paul to run. 371 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 15: All right, So passions are running high, patients short on supply. 372 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 16: Here, let's try to separate the fact from the fiction. 373 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: The Tea Party had risen to push back on Obama's 374 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: massive growth in government, and the movement was hopping mad 375 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: about his attempt to take control of the American health industry. 376 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 16: I want to know if. 377 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 5: It's coming out of my pay chase. 378 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 17: I want an answer to. 379 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 13: The question, is the money coming out of. 380 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 5: Right pat They've decided that we're just stupid. 381 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 17: And I don't want the government to do it. 382 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 5: For I am not a right wing wacko. 383 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: After a year long fight over Obama's proposed healthcare reform, 384 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi use procedural maneuvers to force the controversial legislation 385 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: through Congress without a single Republican vote, And when she did, 386 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: the media openly feared that the White House could pay 387 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: a hefty price in the twenty ten mid term elections. 388 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 18: The Democrats, they'll face some huge political vulnerabilities if this 389 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 18: blows up in the Senate. Now, and what's left is 390 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 18: this original Senate bill with all the special provisions. The 391 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 18: Cornhusker kicked back the special deal for Florida, the other 392 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 18: special deals that are in there, that could be horrible 393 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 18: for the Democrats. 394 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: And that's hitting for Democrats. And for once, the media 395 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: was right. The passage of Obamacare enraged Republican voters all 396 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: across America. Again, Paul Gosar. 397 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 4: The Obama administration, like Democrats tend to do, they tried 398 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: to force feed America in those first early years. You know, 399 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: in some ways they're very smart, get it over with 400 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 4: and make the other side try to undo the not 401 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 4: And one of those things happened to be healthcare. 402 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: It was an issue that Paul was passionate about, and 403 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: it became one of the pillars of his candidacy. At first, 404 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: he thought he'd be able to keep his dentistry practice 405 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: while running for Congress. 406 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: So what I would do is work early in the 407 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 4: morning till usually like one or two in the afternoon, 408 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: hop in the car and drive somewhere. Talk to people, 409 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: have coffees, even if it was one person or two people, 410 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: just that retail kind of politics, talking one on one 411 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: with people, getting their ideas. 412 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: But as Paul spent time talking to voters, he came 413 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: to the conclusion that he wouldn't be able to keep 414 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: his practice and run for office. The district he was 415 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: looking to represent was bigger than the state of Pennsylvania, 416 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: a very rural area with farmers, ranchers, miners, timberfolks, and 417 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: Native Americas. To win, he'd need to devote all of 418 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: his time. So we sold this practice to a colleague 419 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: son and put everything on the line. 420 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: And our thought is if my wife's thought was, if 421 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: we don't win, then we're going to go do the 422 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: American thing, go somewhere else and try to start all 423 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: over again. And so we really did take a shot 424 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: on the reading railroad where it let us. We didn't 425 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: quite know. 426 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: In the primary, Paul faced nine. 427 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: Opponents and we ran the table. So in the primary 428 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: we won, We doubled down on the next two people. 429 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: We tried to make it cordial what we could do 430 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: for the people in Arizona's first district. And we still 431 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: stay friends today, all nine of us. And then I 432 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 4: took on an. 433 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Incumbent again, Tom ben Flyin. 434 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 6: We knew it was going to be close. It's a 435 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 6: swing district. The Democrat incumbent at that time as a 436 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: lady who was well liked and she's not a crazy, 437 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 6: you know, burn down the House Democrat, which is what 438 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 6: you know, seems to be the new model. John F. 439 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 6: Kennedy would recognize her, you know, as a Democrat. So 440 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 6: she was tough to beat. 441 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: She had one point four million in her bank and 442 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 4: we had forty thousand in the bank, and we beat 443 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 4: her very convincingly, even with a libertarian in the race. 444 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: The twenty ten midterm elections ended up being a red tsunami. 445 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 19: Some election nights are more fun than others. Some are exhilarating, 446 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 19: some are humbling. Now I'm not recommending for every future president, 447 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 19: but they take a shellacking like they like I did 448 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 19: last night. 449 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: With Paul now headed to d C, he worked to 450 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: build his staff. 451 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: Not all of our first picks worked out, but one 452 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: of the picks that really worked out was my friend 453 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: Tom van Flyn, who I asked to follow me here 454 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: and he did so. 455 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: He has been come out to DC and be his 456 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: legislative director. And I was at a good point point 457 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 6: in my legal career to take a break. Like I 458 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 6: had done trial work, I had mastered it, I had 459 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 6: tons of success doing it, and I was ready to 460 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 6: try something different at that point. And I told him 461 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 6: I would do it for one year, you know. I 462 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 6: give him my word. I said, I'll do this one year, 463 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: you know. And then I got to get back and 464 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 6: to making money and practicing law. And I never did 465 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: go back to making money. 466 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: This was an incredible time for Republicans. They picked up 467 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: sixty three seats in the House, their biggest gain in 468 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: almost sixty five years. The American electorate had sent a 469 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: clear message to Washington, d C. They wanted a change 470 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: in direction, and Paul Gosar, the kid from Rock Springs, Wyoming, 471 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: and Tom van Flyin, the lawyer from Alaska, we're a 472 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: part of this historic moment. Tom remembers the energy of 473 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: that twenty ten Tea Party wave. 474 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 6: There was so much optimism and so much hope for 475 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 6: the future that they were going to put a stop 476 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 6: to the Obama administration's nonsense and reverse some of these 477 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 6: horrific policies that had already started to undermine just the 478 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 6: values that they believed were fundamental to the country. And 479 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 6: at first, you know, they elected John Bayner Speaker, and 480 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 6: John Bayner is a conservative. 481 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 4: John Bayner got back to business as it should be. 482 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 4: There were open rules. I mean, I remember, you know, 483 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: two three times a week we were up at two 484 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: o'clock at night doing you know, amendments on the process. 485 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: And it was fabulous. It was fun. It was busy, 486 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: it was a lot of work, but it was fun. 487 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: It was engaging, and you got to have your say. 488 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: But John Baynor had a house with many establishment Republicans 489 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: he had to deal with as well. 490 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 6: But he also had to manage an unruly and a 491 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 6: very large membership that consisted of New York Republicans, which 492 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 6: they're not Tea Party folks. They're kind of old school Rockefeller. 493 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 6: You know, let's get along, go along kind of guys. 494 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 6: There's nothing wrong with them, but they represent the people 495 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: of that area and those values. And then you had 496 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 6: hardcore conservatives. These hardcore conservatives were like, no, we're all 497 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: about the constitution. We're about getting back to the rule 498 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 6: of law. We need to, you know, stop these unauthorized mandates, 499 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 6: and we need to enforce the border, and we need 500 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 6: to stop the legal immigration. And these guys came in 501 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 6: with a lot of enthusiasm to get that done. They 502 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 6: did try. They tried to balance the budget multiple times, 503 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 6: they passed bills to balance the budget, and they worked hard, 504 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 6: and all of it, all of it died a quick 505 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 6: death in the Senate that was controlled at the time 506 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 6: by Harry Reid. And since the Democrats had the Senate, 507 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 6: nothing the House did mattered because then on the big 508 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 6: issues that had to pass. So there's all have to 509 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 6: pass bills, it had to compromise. 510 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: Tom is referring to bills that have to pass in 511 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: order for government to function, like bills that fund the 512 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: military or the government itself. We've seen how these negotiations 513 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: sometimes lead to a government shut down, an event that 514 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: the GOP establishment desperately tries to avoid because the liberal 515 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: mainstream media always places the blame solely on the feet 516 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: of the Republicans. 517 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 17: Brown's latest poll found that seventy two percent of Americans 518 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 17: oppose the government shut down, and a growing number put 519 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 17: most of the blame on Republicans in Congress. 520 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 9: It's definitely going to hurt Republicans a lot more because 521 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 9: I think what people are seeing is that there's one 522 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 9: side that's really intransigent. 523 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 20: About two thirds say that Republicans in Congress really shoulder 524 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 20: the bulk of the responsibility for the shutdown. 525 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: So far, Terry, it looks like the Democrats may be 526 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: winning the propaganda war in this whole thing, at least 527 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: for now. 528 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 6: And the game was getting played where the Democrats were 529 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 6: able to negotiate pretty much all their priorities, and the 530 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: Conservatives never really got any meaningful reforms as part of 531 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 6: their package. So the compromise always was, you know, to 532 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 6: give the Democrats what they wanted this time, and we'll 533 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 6: get them next time. Kind of an attitude next time 534 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 6: never came. 535 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: This happens largely because the Democrats and establishment Republicans both 536 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: understand that every American cultural institution, the media, Hollywood, big tech, 537 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: and the so called experts in academia are all on 538 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: the side of the Democrats and are ready to place 539 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: the blame of a shutdown or failure of an important 540 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: bill on the doorstep of the GOP. The Democrats are 541 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: successful at doing this by having every media outlet slam 542 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: conservatives twenty four to seven. Big Tech make sure the 543 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: top trending stories are slanted against the right. Celebrities enter 544 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: the fray with rants against the Republicans, and even the 545 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: musicians Pylon. 546 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 12: Hey, y'all, I just want to remind you, because it's 547 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 12: been a little bit over three weeks. Trump is now 548 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 12: ordering as a summ is seeing federal the work is 549 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 12: to go back to work without getting paid. 550 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: It takes a unique kind of person to be the 551 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: recipient of attacks from America's leftist cultural institutions, and not waiver. 552 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: John Bayner was not one of those kinds of people. 553 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 4: And I still remember the day when he basically said 554 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm tired of doing this. I'm going to go to 555 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: Obama and cut a deal. And that's what rankled so 556 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: many people in the conference and so many of my 557 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: big class. And then it became a push versus shove. 558 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: This is the way we do things, You're just going 559 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: to have to get used to it. And that didn't 560 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: set well with me, nor did it set well with 561 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 4: a bunch of others. 562 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 6: So I remember the optimism, and it was a slow 563 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 6: death by a thousand cuts of that optimism. 564 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: This process of appeasement continued when Paul Ryan became Speaker 565 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: of the House in twenty fifteen. Ryan proved he'd compromise 566 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: to give the left whatever they wanted. Many grassroots conservatives 567 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: had high hopes that this pattern would be broken when 568 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: the New York real estate mogul won the election, but 569 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: they quickly learned that wasn't the case. As the media, Hollywood, 570 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: big tech, and the like waged an unprecedented attack on 571 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: President Trump, the GOP establishment again caved. 572 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 6: It turns out it doesn't only matter, you know, if 573 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 6: we run the House or not. We had two years 574 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 6: where we controlled the House, we controlled the Senate, and 575 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 6: we control the presidency. The two years from twenty sixteen 576 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, after President Trump was elected and Paul Ryan 577 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 6: was Speak of the House and Mitch McConnell was Senate President, 578 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 6: were a complete waste of time. Other than one bill, 579 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 6: the tax reform Bill, they did nothing to help the president, 580 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 6: in fact opposed him, undermined him, And it was such 581 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 6: an opportunity for reform, meaningful reform on so many different areas, 582 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 6: many reforms that could have been done, just warrant, the 583 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 6: ability to tackle big tech, deal with censorship, which was 584 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 6: already occurring back then, could have been done but wasn't. 585 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 6: And in the House leadership just a strong anti Trump feeling. 586 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 6: And that's when new Ler investigation was taking off, and 587 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 6: I think some of those guys were hoping he'd be 588 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 6: impeached and removed over that, and it just was a 589 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 6: squandered opportunity. The American public won, the Conservatives won, We 590 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 6: had it all, and those guys said, Nope, he didn't 591 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: win anything. 592 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan openly undermined the leader of his party. And 593 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: how was he punished. Well, he was given a place 594 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: on the Fox News board. Rock ribbed Conservatives like Paul 595 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: Gosar have faced these types of DC establishment hurdles time 596 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: and time again, and in one instant, it got extremely personal. 597 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: After his first campaign win in twenty ten, the Arizona 598 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: map was redrawn and Paul Gosar's district was split in 599 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: a way to make his reelection difficult, but he won. Anyways, 600 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: he went again in twenty fourteen. In twenty sixteen by 601 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: giving his constituents a voice, he set up town halls 602 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: and gave them a chance to not only air complaints 603 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: but also present solutions. 604 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 4: And that's why we've become one of the most accomplished 605 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: members of Congress getting you know, we've had fifteen bills 606 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 4: done in our ten years. They've been signed. It a law, 607 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 4: and people look at me and go, how are you 608 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 4: doing it? And it's because we work together with people. 609 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: Paul Gosar's success and his strong support of President Trump 610 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: made him a target of the left. So when the 611 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen midterm elections came along, the Democrats decided it 612 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: was time to hit Paul below the belt. 613 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: I was blindsided, to be very honest with. 614 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: You, and what happened next could have broken almost any man. 615 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: Do you want to hear Red Pilled America stories ad free? 616 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 5: Then become a backstage subscriber. Just log onto Redpilled America 617 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 5: dot com and click join in the top menu. Join 618 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 5: today and help us save America one story at a time. 619 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back. So, Paul Gosar's success and his strong support 620 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: of President Trump made him a target of the left. 621 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: When the twenty eighteen midterm elections came along, the Democrats 622 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: decided it was time to hit Paul below the belt. 623 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 4: I was blindsided, to be very honest with. 624 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: You, and what happened next could have broken almost any man. 625 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Paul was waiting for a flight with a Democrat colleague and. 626 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 4: He said, just want to let you know you're tough 627 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 4: enough to take it. That there's a video coming, and 628 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: that's all he said. And then the video comes out. 629 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: Paul Gosser, the congressman, isn't doing anything to help rural America. 630 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 17: Paul's absolutely not working for his district. 631 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: Paul's Democrat challenger ran an attack ad. It opened like 632 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: many political commercials with testimonials against Paul, and he's. 633 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: Not listening to you and he doesn't have your interests 634 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 4: at heart. 635 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: But then as it progressed, this shocking twist was revealed. 636 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: My name is Tim Gosar, David Gosar, Grace Gosar, Joan Gosar, 637 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: Justin Gosar. 638 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 10: Jennifer Gostar. 639 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 11: Paul Gosar is my brother, my brother, and I endorsed 640 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 11: doctor Brill. 641 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 20: Doctor Brill wholeheartedly endorsed doctor David Burrill for Congress. I'm 642 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 20: doctor David Brill, and I approved this message. 643 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: Six of Paul's siblings endorsed his opponent. 644 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: And to say I was upset would be an understatement. 645 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: His Democrat challenger had gotten when that several of Paul's 646 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: siblings were anti Trump progressives, six of them agreed to 647 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: be involved in an attack ad against their own brother. Again, 648 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Tom van Flein. 649 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 6: The implicit message is if your own child or young 650 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 6: brother or your own sister doesn't like you, then you 651 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 6: must really be bad or what do they know about 652 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 6: you that behind the scenes. That's kind of the implicit 653 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 6: message is this guy must be a monster. 654 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 4: You know, both my mom and dad were you know, 655 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: Republican stal wars. My dad was a delegates from Wyoming 656 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 4: in sixty eight and seventy two, my mom in seventy six. 657 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: And you have seven very liberal Democrats or progressives. I 658 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't even call them democrats, they're progressives. And where things 659 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 4: went wrong? When my mom is still is torn up, 660 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 4: she doesn't get this. 661 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: And how are those siblings rewarded for their betrayal? Well, 662 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: just about every TV show that even remotely Touched on 663 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: Politics aired a story on their commercial. 664 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 10: It's the new shocking political out that's making waves around 665 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 10: Arizona and the country for that matter. Congressman Paul Gosar's 666 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 10: own siblings endorsed the other candidate, David Brill. 667 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 9: Six siblings all speaking out against their brother as he 668 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 9: makes another bid for Congress. 669 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 21: What is this for real? 670 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 5: This is for real? 671 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: The family resemblance is unmistakable, but apparently blood only goes 672 00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: so far. 673 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 9: The six say they cannot stand by their brother's positions 674 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 9: on healthcare, immigration, and the environment. 675 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 13: So what would you do if you were running for 676 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 13: office and you're six or seven, or nine or ten 677 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 13: brothers and sisters decided to publicly say we are not 678 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 13: supporting you because you're too out there for us. 679 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 9: Democratic candidate David Brill says his team reached out to 680 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 9: the siblings knowing there was a divide between them and 681 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 9: their brother. 682 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 20: They love America, and they love their family and their 683 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 20: family's values, and that they feel that our congressman has 684 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 20: departed from both. 685 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 9: Brill says they told their story willingly. 686 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 20: I really have to say, these are courageous and principled people. 687 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: It's horrible to have to do this. 688 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: It's a family feud being played out in a political 689 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: ass unlike any you've ever seen. 690 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 11: For sure on this matter, you know, I mean, if 691 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 11: you have all of someone's siblings saying this person is 692 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 11: a lunatic, this person is a jerk, please vote for 693 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 11: the other person. 694 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 17: I just can't believe that that's not going. 695 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 20: To be persuasive. 696 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 17: So will this actually work? 697 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 4: That's going to be an interesting question. 698 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: Harol, ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, The Today Show, CNN, Vice, HBO, 699 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: Inside Edition, The View, all ran stories on the commercial. 700 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: The left used the cultural platforms it owned to punish 701 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: the Republican. Paul could have cowered in a corner over 702 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: the entire ordeal. He could have backed down and compromised 703 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: his principles, as his siblings wanted. 704 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: If you could say anything to your brother, what would 705 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 2: you say? 706 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 4: Resigned? 707 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: He could have even angrily lashed out at them, but 708 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: he didn't. Instead, he took a different route. Paul turned 709 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: to humor. 710 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 16: You can't pick your family. Ghostar tweeted to the six 711 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 16: angry Democrat gostars, see you at mom and Dad's house. 712 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 16: Their mother weighing in, telling The New York Times her 713 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 16: congressman's son has done a hell of a job for 714 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 16: Arizona and they love him. Ghostar responded, I guess I 715 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 16: really am mom's face. 716 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 4: One of the things that we do in my office 717 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 4: is is that we talk it out before. 718 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: We respond again, Tom van Flein. 719 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 6: Initially, when you are attacked personally, your first gut response 720 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 6: is an emotional one. You want to strike back, and 721 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 6: so we make it a point when stuff like this 722 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 6: happens to not do that and just take it. Take 723 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 6: a minute, let's reflect on this, let's think about this. 724 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 6: And one thing we have learned about the left and 725 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 6: our opponents is they completely lack a sense of humor. 726 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 6: They are unable to mean, they are unable to address sarcasm, 727 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 6: they are unable to address humor in any form when 728 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 6: it's directed against them. 729 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 4: Ridicule is the harshest thing that you can do to somebody. 730 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 4: It's intolerable by somebody else. So when you take some 731 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 4: hatred and you turn it upside down, you know, people go, 732 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: there's a bigger person for that, and you allow them 733 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 4: to step on the themselves. And that's exactly what they did. 734 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: In interviews, some of Paul's siblings began to reveal how 735 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: they let far left propaganda infect their minds. 736 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 19: And well, hey, Paul must agree to disagree about taking 737 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 19: babies from their parents at the borders. 738 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 6: And I think there will be some people wondering, Grace, 739 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 6: why not have this conversation privately with your brother. 740 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 11: Well, I feel like in confronting Pole in this way, 741 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 11: we offer a challenge to them that we don't really 742 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 11: have them in any other way. 743 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 4: But there was a very nice light at the end 744 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 4: of the tunnel, Patrick, and that was is that for 745 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 4: a lot of my nieces and nephews, I was their dentist, 746 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: and they knew me as that dentist, and they didn't 747 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 4: understand why their parents were so offset against me. I've 748 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 4: had some wonderful conversations with my nieces and nephews. I 749 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: haven't talked to ill about their their mother or father. 750 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 4: I gave them my side of the story. That's what 751 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 4: anybody is entitled to, and then you have to make 752 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 4: your own mind up. 753 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: In the end, the average tizement backfired. Paul went is 754 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: raised by a landslide, and Paul and Tom learned something. 755 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: They learned that using humor, a powerful cultural weapon, helped 756 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: them win. They used a technique almost entirely monopolized by 757 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: the left. Paul went on to use this weapon to 758 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: promote a serious topic. He used that Epstein didn't kill 759 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: himself meme to promote the lunacy of the Democrats impeachment 760 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: inquiry against the president. 761 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 21: Congressman Gosar, we are proud to say, joins us on 762 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 21: the set tonight, you sent out twenty three tweets in 763 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 21: a row. Yes, spelling in acrostic code. The first letter 764 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 21: of each tweet spells out Epstein didn't kill himself. It 765 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 21: made my day personally. But tell me why you did that. 766 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 3: Well, we wanted to have a different delivery mechanism and 767 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: to a group of people that may not even be 768 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 3: following what's going on with this fake in impeachment inquiry 769 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: of the president. 770 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 4: Yes, and it got the results that we wanted. This 771 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 4: is how fun it is. My chiefest staff and I 772 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 4: are in a cab and we're talking about how this 773 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 4: thing is going crazy. They've got thirty two million hits 774 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: and so the taxi driver here's us talking about it. It 775 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 4: means back and he goes, are you guys the ones 776 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: who did the chronics? And we're like, yes, and I said, 777 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 4: we've made it when the taxi car drivers tells you, hey, 778 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: you know I follow your chronics. 779 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: Today, Paul Gosar spends much of his time in Congress 780 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 1: fighting for America First values, and Tom is still helping 781 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: him along the way, Which leads us back to the 782 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: question why do Democrats always seem to get what they want? 783 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: The answer is the left uses culture to win. The 784 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: left owns the mainstream media, they own Hollywood, academia, and 785 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: big tech, and by doing so, the Democrats define our 786 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: culture and the rules of the game. They use the 787 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: power of these platforms to either destroy their opponent or 788 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 1: they create an environment so hostile that weak need Republicans 789 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: always succumb to the pressure and acquiesce to the demands 790 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: of the left. The right has no ability to impose 791 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: the same kind of cultural shame that the left can 792 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: inflict on Republicans at will. The Democrats know this, and 793 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: that's why they get what they want. There are very 794 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: few Republican politicians that understand this dynamic, that politics is 795 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: downstream of culture. Paul Gosar understands this. To fight back, 796 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: the right must make a long term commitment to developing 797 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: their own cultural institutions. Conservatives need media outlets with journalists 798 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: that cover culture. They need their own movie studios, their 799 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: own big tech platforms, their own streaming services, and publishing 800 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: houses producing more than just political content. The right needs 801 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: to create works of fiction and documentaries that shift the 802 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: public opinion in their favor, because if they don't create 803 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: their own cultural platforms, the Republicans will always be playing 804 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: by the left's rules, rules that they Democrats will rig 805 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: the second they're given the opportunity. 806 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 15: As we pass the John Lewis voting right sick, we 807 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 15: should keep marching to make it even better by making 808 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 15: sure every American is automatically registered to vote, including former 809 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 15: inmates who've earned their second chance. 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