1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: podcast Hey. 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcasts. What a 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of productions. iHeartRadio media. iHeart podcasts. We're gonna recap 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: One's Got Class, the Other One Dies, episode four, Season three, 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: and very special guest Matt Newton, who appeared in the 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: episode prior to this one. If I've got that right. 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: He's an actor, filmmaker, acting coach. Grew up in New Haven, Connecticut, 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: and appeared in TV guest roles for shows like Kimore 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: Girls Ugly Betty. Around twenty ten, he shifted toward coaching 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: a found MN acting studio in New York City. As 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: coached actors from major series like Jessica Jones and films 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: like av A Duverna's when they what I can't see 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: what it's doing when they see us and the Daverna's 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: when they see us. Matt, Welcome Todays. Nice to have you, 17 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and we are going to get into an air date 18 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: here of October fifteen, two thousand and two. Man, that's 19 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: a long time ago. 20 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: We have. 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk about. I was an 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: acting coach as well before I got killed, so we 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: can compare four Gilmore Girls. Yeah, anyway, all right, here's 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: here's the synopsis. Students bombard Laura I with questions about 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: her teenage pregnancy at the school's career day, embarrassing the 26 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: PTA moms, and Rory helps Lane dye her hair purple 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: to assert her independence. Director Steve Robin, writer Dan Palladino. 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Before we get into it, Matt, what do you think 29 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: of the episode? Overall? 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: I liked him, and you know, I it's funny, like I, 31 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: you know, the experience of being on the show, you know. 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: Luckily, I think I didn't know anything about it. 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: So I went in and had my first experience with 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: Gilmergirls on the set of Gilmergirls. So now to come 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: back and watch the episodes and see the style and 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: the tone and storylines and what makes it so special 37 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: is amazing. So so I, you know, I love anything 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: that has sort of a higher level banter like this, 39 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: like Aaron Sorkin kind of banter, Palladino banter. So so 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, I became a fan after filming it. 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Ye, yeah, it's it's it's it's on. I I hadn't 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: watched the shows really at all. And then when I 43 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: started doing the podcast almost five years ago, I had 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the same kind of reaction. 45 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: Like like I didn't remember that. 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I said, boy, this is really good, 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and exactly how the hell did I get this job? Anyway, 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: So larela I gets a call from Dead and the 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: PTA and agrees to talk to stars Tyler High School 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: class for career Day about being a local business owner. 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: They want Luke as well. Laurele I says she will 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: convince him to come over. The banter matt between Luke 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: and Laureles front and center in this episode, establishing how 54 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: they fit perfectly together, at least verbally psychologically perhaps, And 55 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, running those lines with her and 56 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: doing that kind of a witty, quick back and forth 57 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: banter is really, you know, it's the soul of the show. 58 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: It gives it the octane, it gives it the fuel. 59 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: It's moving forward at a dizzying pace. And I think 60 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: that's what thrills the audience is they really have to 61 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: pay attention. They really can't look off, they can't look 62 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: at their phone, they can't turn and answer a question. 63 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna miss you know, two lines and three jokes right, 64 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: because it's so compact. 65 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a sixteen hour day running this dinner 66 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: scene around the dinner table and where the you know, 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: we're all quizzing each other, and you know, it was 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: it was all about the perfection of those lines. And 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: something I'll never forget as an actor and something I 70 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: heavily bring into coaching, which is this idea of memorizing 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: it as if it was Shakespeare. I think, you know, 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: we've learned as actors to get most shows aren't on 73 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: that level of strict you know, punctuation. And that was 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: my first experience with that since college, since I was 75 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: doing Shakespeare, and I thought, Okay, this can be on 76 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: the same level and can be a hyper speed like 77 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: this and can still be real and you could put 78 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: the thoughts in the lines instead of between the lines. 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: And I really love that idea, and you know, to 80 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: sort of spend the day doing it then to see 81 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: that they even cut it even tighter, it's just pretty 82 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 3: amazing and something that you know, it's very special about 83 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: my experience on it now. 84 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean I've said it many time on this podcast 85 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: before that it is very Shakespearean and that there's a 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: rhythm and the music to it. There's an't even an 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: iambic to it. Yeah, and it's you really just have 88 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: to open your mouth, let the words fall out, and 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: the thoughts, feelings, emotions, even the blocking will be dictated 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: to you. It will arrive you just really need it. 91 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Really is the mechanical job of just memorizing the line 92 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: so cold that you can't get them wrong. 93 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: Which we've a lot of people have forgotten how to 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: do right, you know, and this it's a and if 95 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: that you weren't getting the line right, Amy and Dan 96 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: would tell you, and we wouldn't. We wouldn't move on 97 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: until we got it. I was always someone who wrote 98 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 3: down my lines. That's how I memorized. I learned it 99 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: in my high school drama teacher, and so I knew 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: I had a system, you know, from back in the day, 101 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: where I would be letter perfect on everything, even a 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: soap opera set. You know where the words are, so 103 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, I had a system. But for for other people, 104 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: you know, I can see how that would be tricky. 105 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 4: Was it hard for you? 106 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: I mean, did you have to sort of lock yourself 107 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: down or was it again you just inhabited the language 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: knew the character. 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: It was written for you. 110 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: I force fed, you know, in the in the years prior, 111 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: I force fed myself as much Shakespeare as I could 112 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: stand great, and I found very quickly that it was 113 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: far easier to remember large speeches written by a master 114 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: than it is short paragraphs written by somebody with far 115 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: less talent. And I just there was there's this emotional 116 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: logic to it, much like I find in this writing 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: with Amy and Dan and their staff. And it was 118 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: it was shocking to me initially. It was like, this 119 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: can't be this easy. 120 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 3: And you're, yeah, what you're saying is when it's written, well, 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: it's really easy to memorize because it flows off the tongue. 122 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: And when it's challenging, and I'm sure you know I 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: both experienced that, it's sort of like, well, these lines 124 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: don't really make sense, so I have to do it 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: in a beat and everything, but the lines and the 126 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: beats are built, you know, everything's built into the Palladino stuff. 127 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: And I love that. 128 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: And it's very few beats and when they are, their 129 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: micro beats, and you know, again, I don't know any 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: of this stuff. When I went into audition, I was 131 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: just someone who kind of talked fast anyway, So I 132 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: think it kind of made made a lot of sense. 133 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: But now I realize it's a thing. 134 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: It's such a thing because I've never experienced it again 135 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: on a set on that level. 136 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, nor have I not even close. 137 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: I'm sure, and I'm sure you miss it too. 138 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure it's like, oh, I want to say that 139 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: kind of language again, desperate to get back to it. 140 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 141 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Or you know, do a Shakespeare play absolutely yeah, at 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: l Chicago, New York, Miami, wherever, I don't care. 143 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: I coached someone on Aaron Sorkin was adapting Camelot for Broadway, 144 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: I believe. So people are coming in with, you know, 145 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: eight pages of Sorkin adapted Camelot language, and it was 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: a It was a very challenging coaching session because I 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: knew it had to be you know, it had to 148 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: be perfect. 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to debut you Hamlet at my age, 150 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: but I can't can't play the lead role. It'll kill me, 151 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: pus or somebody here exactly. Anyway, Uh, Loralai in the 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: class able to defend her choices even against a group 153 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: of moms with bad haircuts and Jesus sweaters. She points 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: out she doesn't want to gloss over oncomfortable topics with 155 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: her kids. Do you agree with her parenting style? 156 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: I agree with Lawrence's parenting style. I'm not glossing over. Yeah, 157 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I have two kids. 158 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: I get it. 159 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: I I yeah, of course, I'm so protective, you know, 160 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: But but I also am like, you know, what are 161 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: they what can we let them hear? 162 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 4: And what are we protecting them from? I don't know. 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 3: I did's something I'm It's funny very recently also like 164 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: dealing with that, like my kids play travel basketball and 165 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: like just kind of going to do it and seeing 166 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: different people with different parenting styles in that competitive world 167 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: of sports makes me rethink how I am. 168 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do. I do agree with her style. 169 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm. 170 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 171 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a game time call whether you're gonna, 172 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, include them in the decision or to Yeah. 173 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: I do. Every day with my son. 174 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: How old your son? 175 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: He's eleven, but he's you know, he's eleven going on 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: forty five eight eight, You can handle most things. Ye, 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I know that, and then he'll explain 178 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: the facts. 179 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: Of life to me exactly. 180 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: Was this storyline to showcase the juxtaposition of the different 181 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: versions of suburban moms. I think we know the answer 182 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: to that. You know, yeah, probably it shows how outside 183 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: the group, right Lorelei is. 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I live in Connecticut, you know, I 185 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: grew up kind of in this world a little bit. 186 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 3: And the different kinds of people you see, and the 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: different kinds of moms, and you know that, of course 188 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: that they hit it right in the head with that. 189 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 190 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: I was just in Connecticut for a weekend and I 191 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: stayed at a very nice hotel and I was out 192 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: in the posh suburbs, and it's. 193 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: It's just beautiful. It's different. 194 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: It's different. It's beautiful. But I recognize it because I'm 195 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: a Northeast guy, so I get it. 196 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, where'd you grow up? 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: I grew up in Philadelphia and southern New Jersey and 198 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: in New York City, So I've been to all of 199 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: these places. They're all they're all recognizable. They just have 200 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: sort of their different sort of colloquialisms and traditions exactly 201 00:10:49,679 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: a little bit different, but it's Northeast. Now we're gonna 202 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: get to a subject, Matt that you're dying to get to. 203 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm dying to get to. When I woke up this morning, 204 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I was extremely excited to get to this topic. Lane's 205 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: hair makeover to rebel against her mom. I mean, here 206 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: we are. This is the moment in our careers where 207 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna discuss something that just I know so much about. 208 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna not big sar guest. Lane's band 209 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: has started rehearsing and she's learned four songs, but they 210 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: can't play loud because of Lane's mom. They're complaining they 211 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: need a real practice space. They're in uh Sophie's shop 212 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: downtown News and Lane wants to talk about band practice 213 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: in Hartford, but her mom has applications to fill out 214 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: for religious colleges. Lane starts freaking out, wants to dye 215 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: her hair to rebel against her mom, and they run 216 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: it to Justice girlfriend at the beauty store where Rory 217 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: and Lango to buy the hair dye. Uh So, Rory 218 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: dies Lane's hair very purple. By the way, I very 219 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I have a very funny story about dyeing my hair 220 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: as well, so, but I'm not going to share that today. 221 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: For the show. 222 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: For a different thing, No life just for Life. 223 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: To play Rock Hudson for an audition to So. 224 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: You died for the audition? 225 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: I did well played. 226 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: No no no I no. I dyed it for the 227 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: network audition at the Flying Flying me out to LA 228 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: to compete with the other guy, and I dyed my 229 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: hair black and it turned blue? 230 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: Did someone tell you to do it? 231 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Or do it? No? That genius that I hatched that 232 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: bit of genius on my. 233 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: So they hadn't seen you with the hair yet, and 234 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 4: before you want. 235 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: To know, they had in the initial audition redet right, 236 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: it was like a brown night brownish and then all 237 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: the time blue hair showed up. Right. Yeah, not not 238 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: a move, not a good move. Very first audition by 239 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: the way. 240 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: Wow really yeah yeah yeah. 241 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: Hit it out of the park on that one. Anyway. 242 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: She hers is very purple, and she freaks out as 243 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: we're returning to the beauty store to diet back to 244 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: Black Roy's at the beauty store and she yells at Shane, 245 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: that's Jess's girlfriend, the blonde miss miss Kipper. I believe 246 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: her name is for her for her bad customer service, 247 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: because she was on the phone with Jess and Rory 248 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: got a little jealous so she seems to be out 249 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: of character for Rory just to lose it on someone. 250 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: So I guess her jealousy is taking over for her 251 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: to act out and listen no more to fellas more 252 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: qualified to talk about this teenage stuff going in here. 253 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: So let's let's just dig into it. 254 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: Is that? Is that what it's going to be like 255 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 3: for my daughter? Like when she gets to be She's 256 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: six right now, So in ten years, is she gonna 257 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: be rebelling like this? 258 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't think. 259 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: So, I don't know. 260 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. I don't know. It's 261 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: purple hair in your future. I do not know. 262 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: I dyed my hair manic panic blonde in college. I 263 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: wanted to look like Eminem. I caught it a Caesar 264 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: cut and that was a vibe man. And I was 265 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: also doing God's Spell at the time, so I had 266 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: this hair thing going on, and then I was also 267 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: playing the World of Jesus in Godspell at Faster College. 268 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, you know, it was kind of it was 269 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of nice to see Lane's character highlighted. You know, 270 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: we get to see more of her. Were there constant 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: struggle against your mom and figuring out what she really wants. 272 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: Why do you think Lane couldn't go through with the 273 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: rebellious purple hair. 274 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, because it's too some. It's like embarrassing, right, 275 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: It's it's too much. It's it's like you're making a statement, 276 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: but you're you're it's like overkill. So so I think 277 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: Lane was just feeling like, maybe, you know, maybe I 278 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: don't need to be so so rebellious, pull back a 279 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: little bit. 280 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: A little bit of respect, a little bit of fear. 281 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure, I get it right. 282 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: Right, right, Well, it was quite a thing, and it 283 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: kept coming at you and waves, the lame hair hysterics 284 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: was coming at you in wave after wave after wave, 285 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: and we are the better for it. Luke and Jess. 286 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: Jess is still Shane and has her in the closet 287 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: when Laurel I came over to get Luke to dress 288 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: up for his business daily speech at the school that 289 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: he's accompanying her to. Jess sort of smirks at Luke 290 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: and Laurel's antics and bickering, and Luke tries to have 291 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: a talk with just about the way to treat women. 292 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: He hates the way he treats Shane's but Jess defends 293 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: himself because she treats him like trash too, and he 294 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: doesn't really care for her. And this shows a side 295 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: of Luke that I particularly like, you know, being fly, 296 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: being responsible and saying, hey, this is not how you 297 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: treat a girl. Okay, there are dues and don'ts, and 298 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: there's so many don'ts here, and just fires back at him, 299 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: saying the girl he cares about doesn't care about him. 300 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: Rory he's speaking of, and then Luke, and then he 301 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: called Then he calls Luke a golden retriever over the 302 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Laurel I, saying he's waiting around for her to notice 303 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: him in that way. This is why there are so 304 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: many red flags with Jess. There's so much aggression, there's 305 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: so much bitterness, there's so much dysfunction, and I'm seeing 306 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: it more and more and and you know, five and six, 307 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: especially six, and I just watched him. We're gonna recap that, 308 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: I think tomorrow. But man, I mean when I say 309 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: these three guys are bombs, I mean it because you know, 310 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, people don't change that much. Yes, And if 311 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: he's got that kind of sort of grifter bad boy 312 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: in him at sixteen seventeen it's still gonna be there. 313 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: It's gonna stick with it, but it's always gonna be 314 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: a part of him that's gonna feel like that, right, 315 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: like just that that power. 316 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's funny. 317 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: Like you see you see like kernels of it, right, 318 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: you see you see it there, and you think about 319 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: what he's going to be like later, and it's you know, 320 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: it's how much do people change nature versus nurture all 321 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: that stuff? You know? 322 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think about this a loud like kids. 323 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Sure again, Well, it's it seems like everyone's pointing out 324 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Luke and Laureli's chemistry. Right, Emily did it to laurel I. 325 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Now Jess is saying something to Luke. Why do you 326 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: think Luke can't admit to him himself that he has 327 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: these deep feelings for Laurele I? And why is that 328 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: such an interesting dynamic in this show. 329 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: That he can't be open and up front with it, right. 330 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: Why He's probably intimidated. He's probably scared of being hurt. 331 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: He's he doesn't want to be uncomfortable. Again, I totally 332 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 4: get it. I was I was probably the same way 333 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: around girls. I think he's just holding on a lot 334 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: of feelings and doesn't know how to express it is 335 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: where it will come out the wrong way. 336 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 3: And that's it. He's kind of harboring that, you know, 337 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: And we see that with him. 338 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Fear of rejection. The more you want somebody more, your 339 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: fear of the rejection, so you just clean out. Yeah. Yeah, 340 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: well I never got anybody to first base, I'll tell you. 341 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: So Luke is trying to parentst and give advice when 342 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: it comes to women, and it appears and this is 343 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: a question, is he's just just too stubborn to listen 344 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: to anyone else. I mean, he really is the quintessential 345 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: no pseudo know it all, just has all the answers 346 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: for everything, like a narcissist. 347 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, it doesn't want anyone piercing that veil. And yeah, 348 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: that's you know, we all know someone like that. 349 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Right, Matt. That is the first time I've ever had 350 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: a guest come on and describe Jess using the narcissist work. 351 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: That's very insightful. What are what are some of the 352 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: characteristics of of of his narcissist personality that jump out 353 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: to you. 354 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: I Mean, he's just it's it's him first, you know, 355 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: It's it's just the way he sort of responds to 356 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: influence around him and just deflex and defends and just 357 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: kind of doesn't give people the time they deserve. And 358 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's the way you could describe many 359 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: different people, but that's you know, evident in the show 360 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: as well. 361 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: No accountability. Yeah, just will not take responsibility for anything. 362 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 363 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, poor kid. It's tough to see that in a teenager. 364 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: It's just for developed to develop that early. It's just 365 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: it's so tragic to say it. It's kind of why 366 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: you love them, you know, you just want to reach 367 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: out and help them because there you just do. You 368 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: really do feel the potential in him. And he's smart 369 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: kids smart, he's quick, and he's he's crying out for help. 370 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: He really but but but the but the issue is 371 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: is he ever going to accept it? And the answer 372 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: has always come back now. I mean you try to, 373 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: you try to get somebody like that and to get 374 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: get them help and act like you're concerned and you're 375 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: truly concerned. They use that against you. Yeah, it's yeah, 376 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: it's it's tough, tough sledging. 377 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 378 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: Closing scene here Laane and Roy are walking and stars hollow, 379 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: but feel accomplished because they dyed her hair back to 380 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: black and have photo proof of it. Over well, they 381 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: of the purple and they consider it a victory. They 382 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: see shanea Jess, She calls her a freak and she 383 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: walks by. R calls her a freak. Laurela runs into 384 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: Lane Roy and Rory shows her the purple hair photo. 385 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Roy asks about her speech at school and she filters 386 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: on what happened. They walked to Alice Pancake World for 387 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: dinner arman Arm reflecting on her speech. The show ends 388 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: with Roy and Larelai just going along with their normal 389 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: lives with their woody banner, almost like reassuring that she 390 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: made the right choice when she was sixteen years old. 391 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: What did you think of the ending? 392 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: Mat, It's great. 393 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the coming back to the bond 394 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: between them like that is fantastic. 395 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: It's what it's what we watch it for. 396 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: It's it's they're gonna be okay, that they can sold 397 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: her through any thing and you know they still have 398 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: each other. It's what makes them so beautiful. So I 399 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: loved it. I love rewatching it. 400 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: M M. 401 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a simpler time, you know, So you 402 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: know it's it just be you know, you watch it 403 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: with such a nostalgia. 404 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: I mean, that's why people love it so much. 405 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Right, I don't think any other show had more drama, 406 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: more comedy, more complications amongst the characters, more distinctive voices, 407 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: and an incredibly safe environment where nothing really that bad 408 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: can happen. Yes, your terror of losing your loved one 409 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: or you know, losing a family connection, which is which 410 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: is real? 411 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that never goes away, that fear. 412 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Right, all right, Matt, Now we're going to talk about 413 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: your talk about you. You were one of the kids 414 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: of the Harvard alum Springsteen family who Laurala and Rory 415 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: go visit while she's applying to Harvard. What was it 416 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: like filming that episode? 417 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 3: It was great, you know, I, Like I was saying earlier, 418 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: it was my first time on a set. I've done 419 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: a bunch of acting jobs, but this was my first 420 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: time on a set like that, of that level, where 421 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: every detail mattered and every shot mattered, and we did 422 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: many takes. There's most takes I've ever probably done of 423 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: coverage on any guest star situation, because there was a 424 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 3: lot of care in it. And I remember sitting around 425 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: that dining room table, just absolutely running that line the 426 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: scene over and over again. Were requising each other and 427 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: and I got to talk to Lauren and Alexis and 428 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: and it was it was like my first time meeting them, 429 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: and it was amazing. It was like a like a family. 430 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: And I became friends with the stand ins, and I 431 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 3: was there for a few days that week, and uh, 432 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: they were very long hours and but very satisfying, beautiful. 433 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: Thing people still come up to me for. 434 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: And as I know, you understand, and you know, it's 435 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: one little thing that became a big thing. And I 436 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: love that just because of that one time, and you know, 437 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: being on that show that one week like it, you know, 438 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: it's great. It's great that we were talking about it. 439 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just amazing. Uh yeah, 440 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: this the banter so quick? How'd you get used to it? 441 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: You're already prepared for it? Right? Yeah? 442 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: I think I was, And you know I was. 443 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: I had my lines down wrote, and I was, you know, 444 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 3: anticipating rewrites and stuff, but that didn't really happen. You know, 445 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: it felt pretty locked. And I did, you know, same 446 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 3: thing I did in the audition and the callback and 447 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: on set many times on set, and you know, everyone 448 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: seemed kind of happy with the where it was going, 449 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: so I just made sure I did my job. I 450 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: mean those situations, you just feel like we have so 451 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: much to do in so many pages to get through 452 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: because they speak so fast that you. 453 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: Know it's a tall order. 454 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: So you get into that day with a mindset of like, 455 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to stay really focused and get 456 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: some rest and just be ready for the marathon. 457 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: And it was. It was a marathon. 458 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: I tell you, if you can get through the closet 459 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: scene hamlet, you can do anything. You're an acting teacher. Now, 460 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: did you take anything you learn from the set of 461 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls into your teachings? 462 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, I always do one. You know, I teach 463 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: four week classes. 464 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: In one of the weeks out of four, I sort 465 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: of do heightened language week, and it might be from masol, 466 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: or it might be from newsroom. And so the point 467 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: being the how do you sort of approach auditioning for 468 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: something like that? And now, because it's all on tape, 469 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: but when I coach people for Amy shows particular, it 470 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: says on the appointment sheet fast and perfect. So it 471 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: used to be you would hear that in the room, 472 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: and now they're telling you beforehand, when you tape this scene, 473 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: don't even think about not being fast and perfect. So 474 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: I take a lot of that into my classes, just 475 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 3: in terms of preparing them for readiness. And you know, 476 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: I hope they get to experience that kind of situation, 477 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: you know, where you get to say these beautiful words, 478 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 3: and you know a lot of actors don't get to 479 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: do that that often. 480 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: So you and I are lucky, you know. 481 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: Very much. So I really never thought I had a 482 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: shot at this script was too good, and you know, 483 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: movie actors were migrating into film at that time. I 484 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: really started and I just thought, what, you know, I'll 485 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: just do another solid audition and move on. 486 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then look at this. I mean, that's amazing. 487 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 3: I know, how many times did you have to go back? 488 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 3: One time? 489 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: I was the guest star in the pilot? 490 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: I was a guest the pilot. Guests are in the pilot. 491 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: You didn't even one audition? 492 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Great, and then I threatened and bribed my way into 493 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: the cast. That's awesome. 494 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 495 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be crazy not to write and yeah, 496 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: of course that shows but uh, all right, what would 497 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: you say, is the best advice for anyone wanting to 498 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: get into this profession acting. 499 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: I think you have to treat every audition like it's 500 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: your first one in terms of readiness, and that you 501 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: have to treat every audition like it matters. You don't 502 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: know what that audition will lead to. It's not really 503 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: for that role, it's for many roles in many things 504 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: that that casting person does. And so you know, acts 505 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: like you're already on the set and you know you're 506 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: doing a rehearsal. Like that's the way I thought about auditions, 507 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 3: like we're already there, let's just play Easier said than done. 508 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: But that's the biggest advice I have for people. 509 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: Great, great advice, great advice, and in real world terms, 510 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: it's it's true. I remember my first audition for a 511 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: huge feature casting director, and I was very nervous because 512 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I figured, Hey, I'm probably not getting this job, but man, 513 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: if I can nail this and make an impression, she's 514 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: going to keep bringing me back in. She was. She 515 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: was like the goat, She's the go to casting director 516 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: for a massive director. 517 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: And I was just like, man, and you know that, 518 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 3: it's yeah right. 519 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: It messes with you a little bit. 520 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and. 521 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: I've had about four auditions, so hopefully one day I 522 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: can break through. But you're you're one hundred percent right, Yeah, 523 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: you know you can. It will it will be beneficial 524 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: going forward. The better you're auditioning is. And it's really 525 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, flipping the psychology in the room and not 526 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: being needy and just going in and taking command of 527 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: that room. And how you do that is your business. 528 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: I have my technique. Other people have their techniques to 529 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: just take command and get their focus on you, you know, 530 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: because they're even if they're sitting there and they're looking 531 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: at you, their minds are somewhere else usually and you 532 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: got to do something different. 533 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: You've got got to surprise them, you do. You know, 534 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: you take like a half second longer and a pause 535 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: than they're used to hearing. You sort of shake them, 536 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: you know, and uh yeah, that's that can be a 537 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: really powerful thing. 538 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sure anyway, Matt so enjoyed it. 539 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, thank you, thanks for. 540 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: Coming on the great insights. Good luck with your your 541 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: your career as an acting age. You are getting the 542 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: next generation of brilliant actors and actresses ready right unleashing 543 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: them on the world. We appreciate it. It's it's it's 544 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: a noble activity. I'll tell you. 545 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 4: It's thank you. 546 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: Hard work, and it's caring work, and it's deep work. 547 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, good, good on you for that. Anyway, 548 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: thanks to appreciate the time and hope to see you again. 549 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: All right, and that's going to wrap us up here. 550 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Thanks for all the downloads 551 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: with cards and letters, keeping coming, best fans on the planet, 552 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: and remember where you lead, we will follow. 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