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Speaker 1: So morality Monday on a Thursday? How about that? Yes,

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Speaker 1: morality Monday on a Thursday. So this is wild. It's

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Speaker 1: from Reddit. Am I the a hole? My son, who's

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Speaker 1: That is not acceptable behavior. But here's the twist. The

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Speaker 1: and when he flirted back, she confronted him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well my son did. Was messed up.

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Speaker 1: But be creating a whole fake profile to trap your

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Speaker 1: partner is manipulation. If you have to run sting operations

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Speaker 1: to trust your fiance, maybe you shouldn't be getting married

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Speaker 1: if you're learning this. I told my son I would

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Speaker 1: not pay for the wedding anymore. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: support a marriage that already starts with lies in games

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Speaker 1: from both sides. Some people in the family say I'm

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Speaker 1: overreacting and punishing both of them. What is your opinion? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I have a lot of questions about this,

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Speaker 1: and you could chime in, of course eight five five

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Speaker 1: five three five contexts the same number.

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Speaker 2: There's still going to be a wedding.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was that was my first thing, was

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Speaker 1: they're still getting married. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's on Tinder.

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Speaker 3: That was my one of my first thoughts, like, if

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Speaker 3: are you on Tinder? But then yes, you're you're getting

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Speaker 2: Why are you getting married? That's my issue. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's my hot takee Polno Instagram.

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Speaker 2: That was Mom. Hit up Paulina if you got a problem,

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Speaker 2: it's not me. I didn't do it. It's right to

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Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. Didn't get married like seventeen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like fourteen was legal, there was a dowry, but he

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Speaker 2: So that was weird. Both really young, aren't they. He's

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Speaker 4: I don't know why he met in high school at

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Speaker 1: It was a couple of years, that's anyway. So this

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Speaker 1: Pauline is worried that they're too young to get married.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried twenty three. I'm worried that he was on

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Speaker 1: Set him up to catch him. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: they go, yes, indeed I am, and I mean no,

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Speaker 1: know here is why why was she compelled to get

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Speaker 4: That's a big part, like if did she suspect something

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Speaker 4: they're both they're different to me. Regardless he was guilty,

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Speaker 4: But if she did feel something in her gut, then

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Speaker 1: Why would she have picked Tinder of all and there's

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What I don't like are the constant like and you

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Speaker 1: in any actual behavior, like you hear about it. You

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Speaker 1: they don't they don't suspect the person of cheating because

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Speaker 2: So I don't like that because you don't like it.

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Speaker 2: But here's it. Well, well, quality control is.

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Speaker 3: Fine, but we disagree quality contral quality control?

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Speaker 2: Why are you?

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Speaker 1: Why are you married to someone if you feel the

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Speaker 2: It's not in need.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just more like to make sure we're

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Speaker 1: I want.

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Speaker 2: It's so disrespectful. Yes, yes it is. It's great. Do

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Speaker 3: Kicks?

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Speaker 2: Hard? Is quality control?

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Speaker 5: That's my thing?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 1: Why why can't this man who's done nothing to you?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Let me okay, let me ask you. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: suspected Big Tim of cheating on you?

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Speaker 1: Then why is it necessary to invade his privacy?

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Speaker 5: Invade his privacy. That's not invading his It is invading

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Speaker 5: his privacy, absolutely, it is. It's like an employer, right

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Speaker 5: every now and then you do all he.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't work for you, performance review, that's all I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: I got to put you on a pole, work everything, because.

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Speaker 1: My problem with that is you'll find something. If you

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Speaker 1: look hard enough, you'll find something that you don't like. Right,

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Speaker 1: you'll find something not cheating, necessarily hopefully, but you'll find something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Does he need to know everything happening

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Speaker 2: No, he can. It's nothing, but he doesn't do it.

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Speaker 5: It's he doesn't need to, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: And that's how it should be.

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Speaker 2: As long as I don't need to and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: Because I don't like it when it's like confirmation bise.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it when people search and search and

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Speaker 1: That just seems like dumb luck to me. Like if

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Speaker 1: red flag signs. I don't like it even if you

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Speaker 5: But if you weren't cheating, there's nothing for me to

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Speaker 1: But then on the flip side, like if you if

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Speaker 1: have like hard evidence that something inappropriates going on, well

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Speaker 2: It's like did you you don't go to my stuff?

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Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? Though appropriate?

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Speaker 1: Well? I don't, but like I I did not want

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Speaker 3: It truly is a want, I promise, like, it's not

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Speaker 3: I just want to see, Like, who is Hobby on

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Who does he know? Who you do this? Yeah, he's

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Speaker 6: But also, he has a fiance, Why is this man

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Speaker 1: and she did so. I think her suspicions were very pointed.

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Speaker 1: They were based in evidence, because otherwise, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean like maybe, but I mean you could

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Speaker 1: you could pick plenty of fish, you could farmers only

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Speaker 1: Dapaulina was on for a while. I mean, I guess,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like there's more to this story.

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Speaker 1: But no, nobody should be cheating. I also don't think

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Speaker 1: justified in invading someone's privacy. I really don't, because at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're gonna leave him anyway. Sure, so,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that you would like SA have a

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Speaker 1: good day.

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Speaker 5: But that intuition, that intuition, intuition does not lie, is

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Speaker 5: a woman's intuition.

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Speaker 2: We can so you're right.

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Speaker 5: Every time we get this filling in our stomach. It's

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Speaker 5: never wrong.

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Speaker 2: You're not right. Come on, it's never wrong.

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Speaker 1: Never. We should not be going through a partner stuff.

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Speaker 1: If someone's like Fred, you seem guilty. No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I just I think that I think humans have a

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Speaker 1: But I don't blame this woman for not paying for

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Speaker 1: I put my money into that? So I'm gonna spend,

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Speaker 1: now somehow you think you're gonna work it out.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not paying for that wedding. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they should be together. Yeah, they need

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Speaker 2: That means you're not paying for it. Entially, they're going

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Speaker 1: So you saying I won't pay for it as planned,

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Speaker 1: it's you saying I'm not paying for it because it

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Speaker 1: through these texts. I yeah, run girl. My husband and

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Speaker 1: now that that.

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Speaker 2: That you go and now paying for tender that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You had a membership and everything. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well well I don't know about tender on

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Speaker 2: So there's that. But I mean, see, there you go.

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Speaker 1: So she had evidence, right, Like, now you have a

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Speaker 2: You just you just.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. I just don't like it. That's

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Speaker 2: not it's not cool.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing on my phone personally that my husband will

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Speaker 2: But you're never gonna got you.

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Speaker 3: Me, Like there's nothing in my phone, Like, okay, well

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Speaker 1: So he's never gonna get You know what's funny. He

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Speaker 1: So he doesn't. So he doesn't go through your phone.

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Speaker 1: You don't go through his problem.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I've never found anything in his phone. You don't

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Speaker 2: never go through it anymore. Like, don't do that to

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Speaker 1: Because you're trying to build a healthy, trustworthy relationship, or

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Speaker 1: you're not going.

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Speaker 2: Back behind his back and spying on him.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Paulina, Sophia and Monica. I got two people.

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Speaker 2: Got both of w What do you think about this?

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Speaker 7: Well, coming from a twenty three year old and I'm

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Speaker 7: I've been married for thirty years and I never go

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Speaker 7: If you can't trust somebody and you're looking through their phone,

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Speaker 7: I would not pay for the wedding. I would say, sorry,

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Speaker 7: if you guys both were sitting here trying to play

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Speaker 7: And the story I'll be at the wedding and that's it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you Sophia and Monica. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Inconclusion sounds like an essay wrote, you know, and inconclusion.

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Speaker 2: Lusion.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And for some reason aforementioned was I loved

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Speaker 1: so this is a problem. So everyone agrees we don't

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Speaker 1: do the wedding. We're not doing the wedding. They shouldn't

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Speaker 1: you agree. Palling it great, it starts today, we'll do

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