1 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: This is the OTP. I'm Amy Wells and I am 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: joined by our Titans Draft Wizards coach Mac and Rhett Brian. Guys, 3 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: I am so happy you're here. 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: I thought you might like the Wizard Pharaoh. 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: See see that was a good one. Good job, Brett. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: I appreciate you leaning in there. Really, you guys are 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: our experts and we are in the final day of 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: our draft series. So today is a big day because 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: it's the final installment and it means we're wrapping things up, 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: and it also means that we are that much closer 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: to the draft, which is very exciting. And we're talking 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: about running backs and we're talking about quarterbacks. So there's 13 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: a lot of excitement, a lot of things to get to. 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: But before we start, I want to make sure to 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: let everybody know that if this is the first one 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: you're catching, it's okay. If this is the very first 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: time you are encountering this position preview series, no problem, 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: we got you. 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I'm really really excited about talking about these 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: position groups today, especially running backs. I think that there's 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff to talk about in the 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: running backs group, and I feel like the Titans specifically 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: always seemed to stumble upon some sort of a diamond 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: in the rough when it comes to running backs. So 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: there might be a special affinity for me because I've 35 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: been affiliated with the Titans organization for so long and 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: I feel like running backs are kind of what we do. 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: So I'm interested to hear your guys' list of people 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: to watch for top names associated with running backs, Mac, 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: do you want to get started? 40 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: Ashton genty from Boise State, Well, yeah, five eight and 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: a half two eleven nine in a quarter hands twenty 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: nine and a quarter arm length wingspan of seventy five. 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: First of all, just those numbers I gave you. He's 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: a very low built guy. He's got a low center gravity. 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: He's a very sturdy guy. His production in twenty twenty 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: four was historic. He's got tempo, he's got patience behind 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, sets up blocks. Doesn't matter whether 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: you're running a gap scheme, whether you're running a zone scheme. 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: Vision for running backs is something that you always look for. 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: He's got elite vision. An elite vision is being able 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: to anticipate. You know a lot of the drills that 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: they do at the combine that relate to this. They're 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: moving dummies and they have to go over and get 54 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: distracted and move dummies as to where they're going to be. 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: That's really huge. You don't see many bad decisions are 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: missed reads with him with the way that they're blocking. 57 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: He's got a devastating stiff arm. I mean, he can 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: punch you in the face and put you down. Contact ballance. 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: You'll hear both Rat and I talk about contact ballance 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: for running backs. It's big because they're gonna get banged 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: around at the line of scrimmage and they're gonna have 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: to be able to bounce off of the bounce off 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: of the contact. He's got that. He's a good pass blocker, 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: which it's very seldom coming out of college that you've 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: got good pass blocking skills. 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: He's a quick processor. 67 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: He hasn't been used much in the passing game. You 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: just don't see that a whole lot. In twenty twenty 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: three he only had one drop. Now he's not thrown 70 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: to and over abundance of times, but I mean, he 71 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: can do that. So impressive it really is. Now he's 72 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: got nine fumbles over two seasons when you look at it. 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: So I talked about it. They don't use him much 74 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 2: in the past game. So his route tree, he's gonna 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: have to learn that when he comes into the league. 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: He's a guy that is going to be a workhorse 77 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: back for you, and he's a guy who's probably going 78 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: to play for. 79 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: A long time for you. 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson from Iowa six one two twenty five, nine 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: to five eighths hands, he's got seventy eight inch wingspan 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: four five seven in the forty. He's not a burner, 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: but a one six two ten yard split. He's got 84 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: good size, you know, for a lead back. He's a decisive, 85 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: especially outside zone runner. His vision is really good. He's 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: really adept at cutting back off of the outside zone, 87 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: which is big. He's got efficient movement, he's got patience, 88 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: he's got good timing on a gap scheme. A gap 89 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: scheme is when you're going down, down, and around, you've 90 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: got to give your your blockers that are going in 91 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: front of you, that are pulling time. So his patients 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: timing out with those guys up in front of him, 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: good awareness. He's got good angles in pass Pro, zero 94 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: fumbles in twenty twenty four, no fumbles, great ball security. 95 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: His top speed is average. He's got a below average 96 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: burst through creases. His suddenness and his a loosiness to 97 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: shake in the open field is very average. And he's 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: not you know, we talked about oily hips. That's not 99 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 2: what he is. He's more of a power runner, straight 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: up runner. And the thing that happens with him sometimes 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: is with the pass protection. 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: And all these guys in college are like this. 103 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: They're they're a little bit unsure at times because they're 104 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: not involved in protection a lot because it's a lot 105 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: of five out scheme stuff and they're normally either one 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: of the five out. But Caleb Johnson from Iowa, he 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: will be drafted somewhere in the meat of this will 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: be a good back. Quinn Sean Jenkins from Ohio State. 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State has two really good running backs. Htt is 110 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: going to take care of the other one since we're 111 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: a tag team here. But he's six foot two, twenty 112 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: one seventy six inch wingspan, four to four eight in 113 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: the forty a one to five to one split. 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: What we talked about. 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: Anything in the fives for the ten yards split is 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: really good. Thirty eight and a half vertical jump, eleven 117 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: foot broad jump. This is an explosive dude. He's an 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: ideal build for a power back, powerful downhill run, stiff 119 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: arm again. I love his stiff arm, physical back. He's 120 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: got above average explosiveness to me. Uh, He's got good 121 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: patience at the line of scrimmage, which these guys have 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: to have. One fumble in two seasons. One fumble in 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: two seasons, which is really good. He's got above average 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: hands on open targets. His breakaway speed four four eight 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: that's not elite, but he can. He can get away 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: from some people, but I mean it's not it's not 127 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: in that upper tier. His wiggle in his footwork, he's 128 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: more of a straight line power guy. His jump cut ability, 129 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: I would I would put it on the average jump 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: cuts or those those one step cuts that you make sideways, 131 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, on a dime. His jump cut ability is 132 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: about is about average. But to me, I mean, this 133 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: guy is going to be of quality back in this 134 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: league just because of his power, his balance and his 135 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: in his in his strength. I like what he does. 136 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: The other guy I want to throw in there. This 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: is this is kind of my kind of my wildcat 138 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: basial tooting okay from Virginia Tech. Now he didn't start 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: out at Virginia Tech. He was He started out at 140 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: North Carolina A and T five nine two oh six. 141 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: That's about the size of some of these guys. Nine 142 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: inch hands, arm lengths twenty nine and a half, seventy 143 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: five wingspan, forty yard dash four three two ten yards 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: split one four nine wow. Vertical jump forty and a 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: half inches, broad jump ten feet ten WHOA. This guy 146 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: is an explosive package. He really is. He is a 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: home run threat with elite speed. You see that on tape. 148 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: He can press the line of scrimmage and he's got 149 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 2: he's got a great burst contact balance, he can lower 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: his pads. He explodes into contact at five nine two 151 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: oh six. He's he's got a lot of punch, you know, 152 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: with his vertical jump and with this broad jump you 153 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: can see the lower body strength and explosion into contact. 154 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: He's got elusiveness, he can shake guys in space. He 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: improved his receiving skills. I think he'll be fine with that. 156 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: He needs to learn how to more identify his protection responsibilities, 157 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: but that will come. He's had nine fumbles over the 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: last two seasons, but he's got a compact build. His 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: overall size is well below average. He was mostly used 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: because of his speed on outside runs Amy and so 161 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: he's a little bit unproven working between the tackles. But 162 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: if you're looking for somebody later down in this draft 163 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: that you that you're going to bring into your camp 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: that may make an impact. And I say with this 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: about Basiltooton, whoever gets him and gets him into their camp, 166 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard to get him out. 167 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: That's quite the recommendation right there. Just I mean saying 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: that this is a guy who can come in and 169 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: might make an impact right away. 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Well, no, but he's gonna make it. I'm trying to 171 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: help you here. 172 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate it. 173 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: He's gonna make it hard to pass on him to 174 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: get him out of the building early. 175 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's first wave of cutting. 176 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: Now there's enough there that you're going to say, and 177 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: and the running back coach is gonna have to stand 178 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: up for him saying, I mean I've done it before 179 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: with smaller linebackers, saying if I got a vote. 180 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: Let's keep him a little longer. M Steven Tullick was 181 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: a guy like that here it worked. 182 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that turned out. Okay, Rhett, what is your list 183 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: looking like? 184 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: So there's another name he missed, Ashton Genty from Boise State, 185 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: and that's usually the first back mentioned in this group 186 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: of backs in this class. There's another one that I 187 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: started to hear and read more about this guy as 188 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: some teams maybe having him as running back number one 189 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: on their boards, and that's Omaron Hampton from North Carolina. 190 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: O Marion Hampton just under six feet, two hundred twenty 191 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: one pounds, hands, nine and three eights, wing, seventy five, armed, 192 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: thirty and a half and o'marion ran four four six 193 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: and the forty one to five to four in his 194 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 4: first ten thirty eight inch vertical leap ten ten broad 195 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 4: eighteen reps at two twenty five four star recruit out 196 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: of Clayton, North Carolina and a dynamic runner, had a 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: great twenty twenty four. You're talking about a guy that 198 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: had two thousand and thirty three all purpose yards, sixteen 199 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: sixty on the ground with fifteen touchdowns on the ground, 200 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: three seventy three out of the backfield with two more 201 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 4: receiving touchdowns. And he had some special teams value if 202 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: you so decided, because he did return kicks as a 203 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: freshman when he was at North Carolina freshman year in 204 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. I'd lead off with him. Because people 205 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 4: talk about Ashton Genty being taken in the first round. 206 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: I think there's a very good chance at O'maron Hampton 207 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: as a first round pick at some point. Another guy 208 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: I'm real bullish on that I really like, and he 209 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: had the other of the two Ohio State running backs 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: in Quinshawn Judkins. This guy never changed his demeanor or 211 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: his approach or his work when Quinshawn Judkins transferred Portal 212 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 4: into Ohio State, and they were the yin and the 213 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 4: yang of that offense on the ground. And that's Traveon 214 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: Henderson Traveon Henderson five to ten and one a two 215 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: oh two hands, nine and a half thirty three quarter 216 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: inch arms, seventy six and one eighth inch wingspan. Trayveon 217 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: ran four to four to three in the forty one 218 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: to five to two in the first ten thirty eight 219 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: and a half inch vertical leap. And I'm bullish on 220 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 4: him because both these guys are gonna make good, good 221 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: players for somebody. But this guy at least one hundred 222 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: scrimmage yards and three of Ohio State's four college football 223 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: playoff games. Wow, big plays and big games. But he 224 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: is number one in this running back class and three 225 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: different things. Seven point six yards per touch in twenty 226 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 4: twenty four. There's not another back in this draft class 227 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: that did that. Fifteen percent of his runs gained fifteen 228 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: yards or more, explosive plays fifteen percent of the time, 229 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: number one in the running back class. And then the 230 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: other one that's really important, six hundred and sixty seven 231 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: touches in college football, zero fumbles. 232 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 2: Wow. 233 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: So I start with those two, and then I finish 234 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: with certainly somebody that everybody knows in the great State 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: of Tennessee, and that's Dylan Sampson from the University of 236 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: Tennessee five eight and a half two hundred pounds, eight 237 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: and three quarter inch hands, thirty and a half inch arms, 238 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: seventy three inch wing thirty five inch vert ten to 239 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: four broad thirteen reps at two twenty five and did well. 240 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: I think he ran into four fours at his pro 241 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: date University of Tennessee in Knoxville. But you're talking about 242 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: a guy that did it really well against the best. 243 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: You're talking about a guy that in twenty twenty four 244 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: and he's a north and south runner and man he 245 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: can hit a gear five point eight yards per carry 246 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: and twenty two rushing touchdowns in the Southeastern Conference that 247 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 4: ain't chopped liver Nope. So he's got a chance to 248 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: get to get drafted. And Dylan Samson is probably more 249 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: He's a night two maybe late night two guy. And 250 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: then the one that I think everybody fell in love 251 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 4: with in the college football playoffs is Cam Skataboo from 252 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: Arizona State five nine and a half two nineteen nine 253 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: and three eight inch hands twenty nine seven eighth inch 254 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: arms seventy three and seven eighth inch wingspan thirty nine 255 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 4: and a half inch vertical oh ten three broad and 256 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 4: what he did to college football playoffs against Texas. He 257 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: was a one man gang offensive MVP of that game, 258 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty three yards on the ground, ninety 259 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: nine through the air through a forty two yard touchdown pass. 260 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: And he has the most forced miss tackles behind hind 261 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: Ashton genty See second in college football behind them with 262 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 4: one hundred and two forced miss tackles. What you're getting 263 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: with Cam Scattaboo is you're gonna get a football player. 264 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: You're gonna get a guy that cares, cares about his teammates, 265 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: and can produce when it's time to produce. I like 266 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: all these guys, but this is a rich position in 267 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: this draft with value throughout. It is. 268 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: And it's also interesting because it feels like there's a 269 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: lot of kind of pick your flavor within that, a 270 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: lot of different players who can do a lot of 271 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: different things and can contribute to offenses in different ways. 272 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: So it's all about a team's preference at that point. 273 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: Right, it's a perfect observation. That's exactly what this group 274 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: of running backs is. It's it's not a one size 275 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: fits all, But to your point, that is exactly what 276 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: this crop of running backs is. 277 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: I think it's an exciting time to be watching this 278 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: draft class, especially in Day two, Day three, with these 279 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: running backs, I think it's gonna be I think it's 280 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch. Any ret nuggets that I 281 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: passed up, anything that we. 282 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: Miss let me just say this about Samson before we 283 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: turned the page. 284 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: There we go. 285 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: He was the engine for Tennessee's offense this year. Wasn't 286 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: the quarterback, It wasn't the receivers. 287 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: This dude. 288 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: This dude was the dude week in and weekend. 289 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: When he got sparked, he tough. 290 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: He was the engine this year. This is what you 291 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: know for for big plays, for consistent play, and for touchdowns. 292 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: This was the guy this year for their offense. 293 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: There were a couple of teams that had running backs 294 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: who were the real engine of their offense. Is that 295 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: trend we're starting to see? Are we getting away from 296 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: some of this flinging it all over the place business, 297 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: and maybe we're getting a little more running back centric. 298 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: No, it's just the fact in a word, no, no, no. 299 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm losing today. 300 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm losing the other part of it, though, is you 301 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: hear a lot of these backs. We're talking about our 302 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,119 Speaker 4: receivers out of the backfield. So there's three down players 303 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: in a lot of cases. True, and listen, Ohio State 304 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: was loaded and they won the national championship. But I'm 305 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: not saying they wouldn't get there without these two. But 306 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: the two backs and Quinn Shawn Judkins and Traveon Henderson 307 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 4: a massive help. Yep. 308 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, running backs are still I mean, let's 309 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: just you know, the greatest example in this league to 310 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: show that they're still valuable is the Giants probably regret 311 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: let Sakwuon Barkley. 312 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Probably there's a chance there's a chance they wish they 313 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: hadn't done that. 314 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the difference in hosting the Lombardi than 315 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: from what and Philly has a really good team. 316 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that made them a great team. 317 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a chance the Giants would like that. 318 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: One back won't get it back. 319 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Nope, Sure we'll. 320 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 5: This summer seat Geek has your ticket to the best 321 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: live concerts in Nashville at Nissan Stadium. See Geek has 322 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 5: the best seat Your seat for an unforgettable summer. From 323 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: Rock Royalty to Rap Superstars R and B to country 324 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 5: find it All on Seat Geek, the official ticketing partner 325 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 5: of Nissan State. Little Caesars is the official pizza partner 326 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: of your Tennessee Titans. Download the Little Caesars app and 327 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 5: get your favorites delivered today. 328 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: Delivery fees apply. Now back to the OTP. Let's turn 329 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: the page to quarterbacks, Max, I want to hear your list. 330 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: Sheder Sanders from Colorado six one and a half two 331 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: twelve nine three eights hands this guy when you put 332 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: the tape on. His short and intermediate passing is surgical. 333 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: The guy's really accurate with that. His deep misses are 334 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: usually underthrows where the wide receiver can work back, and 335 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: he's got a good release. It's concise, it's compact. He's 336 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: a touch passer. When you throw the fades and the 337 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: nine routes, he throws a bucket ball, which means he 338 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: can drop it down into the bucket with an arc 339 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: on it. 340 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: He's comfortable attack in the middle of the field. 341 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: You can tell that he was raised with somebody that 342 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: understands how defenses play. His dad, I mean, he he 343 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: gets it, he does it panic, He's got good instincts. 344 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: He's creative outside of structure. 345 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: He knows the limits of his arm strength, and you 346 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: can tell that he doesn't force throws he can't make. 347 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: He showed signs during the twenty twenty four season of 348 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: manipulating the pocket and working up into it. Okay, now 349 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have just a killer arm. The thing that he 350 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: lacks sometimes is the elite athleticism to escape a collapsing pocket. 351 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: And let me just say this that Offensis line, with 352 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: all due respect to every human that played up there, 353 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: it collapsed a lot. And he had he was It 354 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: was a lot of self preservation. He holds the ball 355 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: sometimes a little too long. Their spread offense, it simplifies 356 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: the Reds to finds coverage pre snap pretty easy. But 357 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 2: this guy, Shdr Sanders is by no means an empty 358 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: chair at all. And here's the other thing you've got. 359 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: You got players that are raised in this league, this level, 360 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 2: in this league, they're raised there around it. He's been 361 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: in locker rooms since he could since he could walk. 362 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: It's not too big for him. You can tell that 363 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: he's not one of those deer in the headlight guys. 364 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: And you know, moving from Jackson State to Colorado, clearly 365 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: you're moving up in competition. None of this stuff owes him. 366 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: This is a very mature guy. As far as on 367 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: the football field. 368 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: I think that there's also the business side of it, 369 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: the attention side of it. I think that some of 370 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: those things that are harder to evaluate. How a guy's 371 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: gonna respond when he's the guy of a big program. 372 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: I think you already have the answer to some of 373 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: those questions, and a guy like Shudar Sanders, whereas with 374 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: other guys, you don't know how they're going to react 375 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: because they've never been in that situation before. 376 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: Tyler shuck sho U g H it's shuck. 377 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Well, sure it is. 378 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: Louisville six four seven eight two nineteen nine and a 379 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: quarter hands thirty two inch arm link the only quarterback 380 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: that ran at the combine four sixty three. He's an 381 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: older player. He's had some injuries. Let's talk Let's talk 382 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: about that. He was healthy in twenty twenty four. He's 383 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: got prototypical size, he's got good mobility, he's got a 384 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: massive arm. He could push the ball down the field 385 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: with accuracy. His tape when you start watching him, you 386 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: could see the impressive throws that he makes. And I 387 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: sat with some of the Louisville coaches in the Bowl 388 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: for a couple of days. They say he's nothing but 389 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: a really good leader. He's one of the guys. He's married, 390 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: he's got children, but he's still one of the guys. 391 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: Lowest pressure and sack rate in power for he handles. 392 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: He handles pressure. So got good mobility for a size. 393 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: That's why he wanted to run to show hey, look 394 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: here I am. He can make throws on the run 395 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: if he needs to. We saw him throwing from in 396 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: the pocket at the Senior Bowl, which which is good. 397 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: You can see that on tape. He can also process 398 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: because he's an holder, he's a more mature guy, can process. 399 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: He led the FBS with twenty four throwaways. You know, 400 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard to sack this dude. His precision 401 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: on quick inside breaking routes, you know, I mean, and 402 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: there's some mechanics there that I mean. I'm not a 403 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 2: quarterback guru, but but you can you can, you can 404 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: fix that a little bit. Sometimes he'll stown his first 405 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: read a little bit long. But he's an interesting, interesting aspect. 406 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: And the medical checks on him. Mac talked about him 407 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 4: having injuries. He didn't have any catastrophic things that would prohibit, 408 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: you know, like to throw a arm or whatever. But 409 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: in three years at Texas Tech, had three consecutive seasons 410 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 4: of season ending problems collar bone and twenty one and 411 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 4: twenty two broken leg. In twenty three transfers plays with 412 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: Jeff Brohm at Louisville. Puts together a nice year and 413 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: here he is. 414 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: And to his point, those broken bones might be white. Well, 415 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: it might be a little bit. Why he's a little 416 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: bit sacked conscious down too. 417 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, someone, but it's not like he had, you know, 418 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: a rotator cut for you know, anything with his throwing 419 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: and nothing major. 420 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to get sacked if someone broke my 421 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: collar bones, like get out of here, don't touch me, please. 422 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: You'd be too fast and a lucy. 423 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm really fast. 424 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: I've always thought about you, very lucy. 425 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 426 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: Kyle McCord from Syracuse. 427 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: This is this is the next thing I'm gonna talk about. 428 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: Six three two, eighteen and nine and a half. He 429 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: led FBS with big time throws. I mean, this is 430 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: this guy. He's very accurate, he's a ball placement's good, 431 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: he's comfortable executing on the move. He can anticipate guys 432 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: coming open, which is critical. You can't wait for him 433 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: to be open to throw in this league. He goes 434 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: through his reads very, very quickly. He's got toughness, he's 435 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: got poised. He can make his body hit a lot 436 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: of different angles to throw, which is good. He's got instincts, 437 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: but those are the pluses. The minuses are. He led 438 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: the FBS with twenty four turnover worthy plays. Decision making 439 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: needs to be better. He'll tend to lock onto his target. 440 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes he retreats out of the back of the pocket 441 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: too much, which a lot of these guys in colleges do. 442 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: That's not the way to go, especially in the National 443 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: Football League, because dudes chasing you are faster. Keep your 444 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: eye on Kyle McCord from Syracuse. It's going to be interesting, mac. 445 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: How much harder is it to evaluate quarterbacks than maybe 446 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: any other position? 447 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: Really hard, and it's getting harder, just because we've talked 448 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: about this on previous OTPs with a transfer portal. When 449 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: I was evaluating Jake Plumber when I was the head 450 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: coach at the Cardinals, I could watch all four years 451 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: at Arizona State in the same offense. Now, when you're 452 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: watching them go to different places, and especially especially with 453 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: the twenty hour rule, there's not a lot of time 454 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: to be able to perfect a lot of you know, 455 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: a lot of techniques and stuff. And the quarterbacks are 456 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: transferring because they want to play, so you really have 457 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: to dig into the different places they were. We've talked 458 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: about this, the different environments that they're in. So it 459 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: makes it a real, real challenge. 460 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's definitely a challenge. And when you're trying 461 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: to find the guy who's going to be leading your offense, think. 462 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: Of the top two right, top two quarterbacks right now 463 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: on this draft, cam Ward Saduur Sanders. How many places 464 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: that they both played in their career. Cam Ward played 465 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: in three, yeah, Sanders played in two. 466 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. Rhett, who's on your list? 467 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 4: Let's talk about cam Ward because that leads into that 468 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: perfectly zero star recruit out of Texas. Incarnate word is 469 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: where he started. He went to Washington State in the 470 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: transfer portal, then a year in Miami. In twenty twenty four, 471 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: finalists for the Heisman Trophy forty three hundred and thirteen yards, 472 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: thirty nine touchdown, seven interceptions. The thing that he has 473 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: worked on cleaning up through his career is Turnovers at 474 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: fumbles is his thing. He's got over thirty of those 475 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 4: in his career, but he's gotten a little better at 476 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: that at each stop. His measurements of the combine six' 477 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: one and five eighths, two nineteen hands, nine arm, thirty 478 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: and five eighths, wings, seventy five and three quarters. And 479 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: the thing that is going to stand out about him 480 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: is he doesn't have a cannon arm. He's got a 481 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: good arm, but it's the delivery. He's got a side 482 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: arm delivery. Played a lot of baseball as a youth, 483 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: and so there's some of that in there. And he's 484 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 4: not like super quick, but he can evade, he can move, 485 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: he can get out of the harm's way and move 486 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 4: the chains. Probably the top quarterback prospect in this draft 487 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: if you're, you know, arguing about him or Shador Sanders. 488 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: His frame and his build is a lot like a 489 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: guy that the Titans then the Oilers drafted way back when, 490 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: and Steve McNair. He's built kind of like him. Seems like, 491 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: as of late on favorite to be the first overall pick, 492 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: whether the Titans do that or they trade it to 493 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 4: someone else. So we'll see film at eleven on that. 494 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: The thing about him is, you know we talk about 495 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Gumba be likability for Edge Rusherston. This guy's an elastic dude. 496 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I went back and looked at my right 497 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: up and you know, I keep all these notebooks on 498 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: what I said about Mahomes coming out of Texas Tech. Yeah, 499 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: this guy's got a lot of that in him. Elastic, 500 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: off platform throws. Not a super twitch athlete. 501 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: But he can evade. 502 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he's just loose and he's got he's got 503 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: a major league shortstop arm. He's an interesting guy, especially 504 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: with the way offenses are played now. Very interesting dude, 505 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: he really is. 506 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 4: And Max's not saying he is. Patrick ma Holmes is 507 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: one of those. But there's some traits there that are 508 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 4: like that. And certainly the it's not the wind up, 509 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: over the top delivery. It's the quick flip flick of 510 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 4: the wrists. Like he said, like he's a major league 511 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 4: baseball shortstop. 512 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: He's off platform guy. 513 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 2: I mean, And then I went back when I was 514 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: when I was doing Mahomes. This has nothing to do 515 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: with this year, but it does, because everything has something 516 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: to do with something. You know, when you're evaluating players 517 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: if you get a big enough roller decks. You can 518 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: recall when I was doing Mahomes, what I wrote was, 519 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: he reminded me a lot of the off schedule plays 520 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: and the off platform plays of a quarterback that we 521 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: all know, that we all know in love with the Packers. 522 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: That play at Southern Miss at FARV. 523 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: He reminded me of him a lot off platform, a 524 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit unpredictable, a little bit non conventional, 525 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: but the ball got there and he just made plays. 526 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, quite the comparison. Who else she 527 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: got RTT from. 528 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: Old Miss Jackson dart at sixty two and a quarter 529 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: two twenty three hands, nine and a half, thirty arms, 530 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 4: seventy three wing over ten thousand yard, seventy two touchdowns 531 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: in his career with Old Miss really good twenty twenty 532 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: four season thirty eight seventy five twenty five touchdowns, ran 533 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: for four point fifty two and three more. Some mock 534 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: drafts that have him sneaking into the first round, which 535 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: is quite possible because the one thing that coach Max 536 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: taught us, there's the draft and there's the quarterback draft. 537 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: In it's just a different thing. We'll see what happens there, 538 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: but he's certainly someone you should be aware of, and 539 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 4: of course most Southeastern Conference fans and Titans fans know 540 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: who Jackson dart Is Will Howard, Ohio State Buckeyes, quarterback 541 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: of the National Championship Buckeye six two and a quarter 542 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: two twenty three hands, nine and a half ran a 543 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: four to three three shuttle seven to one three three cone, 544 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: thirty one and a half inch avert nine to four 545 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: broad really orchestrated that offense well throughout the year and 546 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: certainly in the big games where it mattered the most 547 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and did a very nice job there. 548 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 4: And then, lastly, Jalen Milroe, while we're talking about Southeastern 549 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: Conference players from Alabama six to one and seven eights 550 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: two seventeen nine and three eights inch, hands, seventy seven, 551 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: almost seventy seven wing. That's a guy that is an 552 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: interesting prospect with dual threat properties to him playing in 553 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: a big program like Alabama. 554 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that there's the draft 555 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: and then there's the quarterback draft, because to this point 556 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: we haven't really mentioned that yet. How big of an 557 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: impact do these quarterbacks have the potential to have on 558 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: the main draft. 559 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: This part of it is held true since a draft started. 560 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: If you need a quarterback, regardless of where you've got 561 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: anybody else ranked on that board, you're going to get in. Yeah, 562 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: that's why it is so true. And you know when 563 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: I first came in here, Ret and I started doing 564 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: the draft. You can't lump the quarterbacks in with the 565 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: other positions. So they're always going to be their own, 566 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: separate entities of impact. I mean they just are now. 567 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: Wherever they're taking clearly because it's a linear draft has 568 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: a effect on the other positions. 569 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: But there are two distinct drafts. 570 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: Take your quarterbacks out and rate them in a different 571 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: category because they're separate from the other people. 572 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: Because it's a different thing. You cannot have a football 573 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: team if you don't. 574 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: Have a quarterback. 575 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, you can have one, just not a good one. 576 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: No, that's true. 577 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: An expensive rugby team is what you say. 578 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: You got a highly paid rugby team. 579 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 4: In terms of numbers in this year's draft, I think 580 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 4: the cam Ward, shudor Sanders, maybe Jackson Dark two to 581 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: three quarterbacks could affect this draft in Night one. The 582 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 4: rest of it will have to see. 583 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair point. 584 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so much fun to watch just does 585 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: everything unfolds. Hey, Titans fans, with a Kroger Boost membership, 586 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: You'll score big with double fuel points, free delivery, and 587 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: lots more. Go to Kroger dot com slash boost for details. 588 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: Kroger the official grocer of the Tennessee Titans. Tight nu 589 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: home is the forefront of all we do. It's why 590 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: we're so committed to caring for the places and spaces 591 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: in which we work and live. Ashley, the official furniture 592 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: provider of the Tennessee Titans. Now back to the OTP, Rhett, 593 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: did we blow by any Red Nuggets? This is your 594 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: last chance to dance, my friend. Our next stop is 595 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. 596 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: I'll have more Nuggets for draft covers. 597 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: Last chance, last chance. Today, I'll have a dance. 598 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: I will have more Nuggets for draft coverage on Titan's radio, 599 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: and I'm looking very much forward to that with the 600 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: two of you, for sure. I like what he said 601 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: about cam Ward though, just he doesn't have this traditional 602 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: cannon arm, but the way he delivers it, he can 603 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: sling it in his own way. That's an interesting thing 604 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: to watch because there are some Mahonian type traits there. 605 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Mahonian, you realize. 606 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: The discrepancy on evaluation of Mahomes when he came out. 607 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: I believe it was wild. 608 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: It was really really wide stretched. 609 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: But that's that's why Andy Reid and Mike Burganci who 610 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: was there, Yes, sir, they had a number one pick 611 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: that they had traded for and Alex Smith already there, 612 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: so they knew that they were were gonna sit this dude. 613 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: But I can firmly remember up in the up in 614 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: the press box, you were on the field at the 615 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: preseason game when Mahomes went in against the Titans in 616 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and so you know, we're watching and 617 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you now it's time for you know, 618 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: for everybody else to start playing. That they put him 619 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: in the game and he made a couple of those 620 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: off schedule throws with. 621 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: That, and we everybody looked at each other. 622 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 4: Went whoa, as in okay, we get it, Okay, we 623 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: get it. Because one of of course, Mac knows everybody, 624 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 4: but Mitch Holt is the longtime voice of the Kansas 625 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: City Chiefs, was you know, been telling us It's like, hey, listen, 626 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 4: no question with what they did in the draft. They 627 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: think this is their guy. But wait till you see 628 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: the show. We saw a little bit of the show, 629 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 4: and we're like, okay, understand it. 630 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: Now, we've all seen the show. 631 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: And the rest is we've. 632 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: All seen the show. 633 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: I've been around this stuff. 634 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: Long enough with quarterbacks. 635 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: When I was coaching with the Bears, we were in 636 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: an open date and we were getting ready to going 637 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: to play the Bengals. They were playing Green Bay in 638 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: Green Bay. So Mike dick as as kid, go up 639 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: and scout them because we don't know much about the Bengals. 640 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: You know what we knew about the Packers because we're 641 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: gonna play. Well, that's when Don Mkowski, the magic Man, 642 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: was the Packers quarterback. Well, their backup was Brett Farr. 643 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: He hadn't played anything. Well, Mkowski gets his clock cleaned 644 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: in this game. Farv goes in and he immediately starts 645 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: to throw about three picks, and everybody going, well, you 646 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: know this is the And all of a sudden, he 647 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: starts to do far stuff, starts throwing just I mean 648 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: just throwing piss missiles by everybody's ear. I mean, he start, 649 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: They come back and win, and you know how many 650 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: plays Mkowski. 651 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: Played after that? Zero? 652 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when Brett Farr started. 653 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: Some dudes are just. 654 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: Gamers, yep. 655 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 4: And this is after Farv Well, this was his second team. 656 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 4: He was traded. He was a Falcon. 657 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 658 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Falcons got rid of him, right. 659 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: They sure did. And the rest, as they say, is history. 660 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: And now we're going to start some new history. You 661 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: got players to pick. There is five to be had. 662 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: The first round of the NFL Draft, ladies and gentlemen, 663 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: is upon us. 664 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: Three days of the draft is a huge adrenaline pump. 665 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: It's really fun, it really is. 666 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: It's just the best. It's it's three days of just 667 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: opportunity and excitement. We will have, as rhet mentioned, we 668 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: will have all kinds of coverage on Titans Radio, so 669 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: sure to check that out, and of course we will 670 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: have podcasts. We're going to be coming to you here 671 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: on the OTP to break everything down for you and 672 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: make sure you know what's up, So look for all 673 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: of that. As we have said, make sure you are 674 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: subscribed to the OTP, make sure you're getting whatever notifications 675 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: you would like to get, I mean, be notified however 676 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: you want. We're not picky but just make sure that 677 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: you are getting the information that there's new stuff, because 678 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of news coming up. For the Tennessee Titans. 679 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: For Coach Mac, for Ret Brian, who have been lovely 680 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: and have gone along with all of my funny, funny 681 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: games through this whole position preview process. Thank you. Thank 682 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: you for sharing your wisdom and all of the work 683 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: that you've done with the ot people. That's what wizards do. 684 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they appreciate it, but I appreciate it 685 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: even more so. For Rettbrian, For Coach Mac, I'm Amy 686 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: Wells saying thanks for listening to the OTP. We'll see 687 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: it at the draft.